The Failure of PHANTOM 2040: The Future Sucks & No One Cares
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Phantom 2040 was a 2 season animated series that took place in the far future of 2040.
Following on from King Features other recent animated show "Defenders of the Earth" and using The Phantom as the star this time, Phantom 2040 was an ambitious show with a great cast that partly fell victim to regulation and just never really found its audience.
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I’m not sure what’s worse: This show debuting 30 years ago, or us being 16 years from this timeline.
I'll go with the fact that this was 30 years ago and I'm now 50. Making me feel old😂
Oof.
We're right on track too.
@@RichGilly I mean surely no one would destroy the world for profit. You'd have to be a real Koch.
@@cinnabarsin4288lame.
"Listen to your friend Billy Zane. He's a cool dude, and he's trying to help you out."
He truly was the ghost who walked !!!
Ho, Swedish person here! We are practically the country who adopted the Phantom and took over creative duties for it. We have made a ton of different stories over the years, and it is no surprise to say this show was a big deal in my country. Learning it petered out because of crass commercial reasons explains why a show I loved just disappeared... but I certainly can't say I'm happy to learn why that is. This was such a different world from so many other cartoons I'd seen, it deserved so much more. Graft truly deserved better, and Rebecca deserved SO much worse. Stypid no-killing rule.
Phantom 2040 is also considered to be a soft sequel to the “Defenders of the Earth,” cartoon with an aged Mandrake guest starring in an episode and having a past history with aunt Eloise.
This is news to me and I was sure I watched them all. Any idea what episode it was?
@@KeldorTheWhite it was episode 15, “The Magician,”
In a way, all the Phantom successor are “in continuity” because the ring is passed onto an heir. This concept should really be revived as a multiverse with flashbacks to all the previous Phantom stories that have been published
@@momosgarage I agree with the concept except for the “multiversal” part; one of the main features of The Phantom is that he’s immortal in lore, and everything that has happened throughout history involving him all happened to a singular Phantom: “He” was present at all of these events, not “They/multiple Phantoms.” If even one more Phantom were to show up, standing side-by-side with the character, it could potentially destroy the illusion. Even if these series don’t occur in the same universe, having the same singular Phantom character at every single series would deepen the mythology surrounding him.
Ah yes. Mark Hamill, that guy from The Guyver. Surely the high point of his career.
I mean, it's kinda obvious his biggest role was being Hobgoblin in Spider-Man: The Animated Series, but that was months after this series debuted.
That and playing the Trickster in four different TV shows.
He got to play a roach thing!
What are you talking about? He was on not one but TWO episodes of SeaQuest DSV.
Is her that character actor from Jay and Silent bob strike back? I wondered what else he had been in
When I was going to college in Providence RI back in the early '90s, there was a local psychobilly band callec The Phantom Creepers who would wear masks like the Phantom onstage. I bought a little package of mech from them once that had a cassette of their music, a hand drawn Phantom comic, and a screen printed poster that glows in the dark. They were fun.
You've done it Dan. You've delved so deep, you have gone beyond the light. You've found an animated series from the early 90s that I have no memory of.
Nah we’re only just a little below the surface of that iceberg
I watched this show as it was coming out. I honnestly think the thing that hurt it most was that it wasnt part of any major networks "block" of cartoons. It was aired at like 6AM on a Sunday. I must have been the only teenager that got up that early to watch this cartoon. This show really stood out to me, not just for the social commentary, but the attention to current "theoretical" science aka commercial jump-jets and flexable screens. So ahead of its time.
Hey, you weren't the only teenager up early on Sunday to watch it. :)
I also watched it on Sunday mornings. Where I lived, the show was on a small local station that wasn't carried by the cable company. I had to switch over to antenna to watch it.
I used to comb the tv guide and set the vcr because it was on at absurd times. Great sci fi show with strong action, themes, and a thoughtful streak.
Criminally underrated show. Batman Beyond owes so much to this.
All I remember from Phantom 2040 is all I remember from Aeon Flux: why everyone in these worlds are so spindly and gangly with their long limbs? I had no idea they were made by the same guy but it totally makes sense in retrospect.
Peter Cheung borrowed heavily from Egon Schiele.
that guy, peter chung used to work in rugrats get tired of draw fat chubby midgets, and uses his influences from german expresionism, primarly egon shiele to make characters whit very long limbs
Yeah it was a weird aesthetic time in animao
He did a lot of less out there stuff too. He designed all the cartoon looks for the ninja turtles and storyboarded the iconic 1987 TMNT opening for example. He's really a legend.
Dan had me really confused for a second there when he said Liquid Television didn't necessarily have Adult content. I was like "Dan, I know what every millimeter of Aeon Flux's tongue looks like." and as soon as that thought finished crossing my mind he clarified.
“Oh, you mean the guy in purple?”
- local comic merchant when asked about “Phantom” comics
The Phantom movie, starring Billy Zane, is an underappreciated gem. It had the unfortunate fate of a bad marketing campaign, namely "Slam Evil!", which didn't make me inclined to see it, until I heard second hand reviews of how good it was.
It's better than The Shadow, with Alec Baldwin.
@@freddogrosso9835 Oddly enough, I prefer The Shadow movie than the Phantom one. It felt really forced and had bad acting.
8:30 and that’s Ninja Turtles AND Cops, two separate shows. Can you imagine?
Hell Yeah. The lessons we DIDN'T learn from 90s cartoons.
Saw the cartoon the first time around on good old analog TV here in the UK on CBBC.
Having watched and loved Batman The Animated Series. Experiencing the crazy animation of Neon Flux and I like that too. These set me up well for Phantom 2040.
Everything about it as a cartoon was well thought-out. A great history to work with which gives it a solid back story.
It had romance, danger, manipulation and backstabbing. Things that are a part of life especially the last two.
What really caught my eye was the detail. One of my favourites being people born in zero gravity. Wouldn't have the same bodies. So they look different to people on Earth. Also for these people to survive in any gravity. They had to have an exo skeleton to support their bodies. That I really liked and meant they could bring in more of the designs from Neo Flux.
Then there is the appearance of Mandrake the Magician. Voiced by the same actor who did the voice of the character in Defenders Of The Earth.
So to anyone I recommend watching the series.
Thanks for reading my comment.
Between Phantom 2040, Spider Man 2099, and Batman Beyond, I’m curious just how much overlap there was of writers aware of the others.
You mean Spiderman Unlimited?
And Sonic the Hedgehog (the good one).
@@nolantaylor656No, the Peter David comic from 1993.
@@Dynaman21 ah cause you lumped the three together but they didn’t exist in animated form at the same time and there was no 2099 show for Spiderman. Besides, Spidey 2099 came three years earlier, came in 99 so there was significant gap.
Didn’t Sherlock Holmes get sent to the future too? Watson was part robot I think.
The use of the word smart gun in a show released in 1994 is interesting.
Smart gun is nothing new. 1995's Judge Dredd had one. But in general Phantom 2040 had a shitload of advanced concepts taken from the cyberpunk literature of the time. orbital cities, VR, anotechnology, smart cities, and lots and lots of cyber implants.
“Gremlins 2” used the term “smart building” in 1990.
I loved Phantom 2040 when it was shown on the BBC over here in the UK
I loved the art style - same guy who did Aeon Flux? It's definitely a change from watching Defenders of the Earth on BBC.
it was really good from what I remember, I am going to give it a rewatch at some point. The Highlander Cartoon and Pirates of Darkwater were up there as well.
No one I know remembers this show. I watched it all of the time and this show made me hyped for the Billy Zane film at the time.
I do.
Same
I don't recall watching it but I do remember this show and the movie.
I do too. It's hard to forget its lanky art style, the alien futurism and that cool flying Ford Mustang.
I actually still have the replica ring they gave out in the theaters for that movie.
The Phantom did have an actual minor superpower. He had indestructible rings that left an unremovable mark on the chin of anyone he punched with it. There were plenty of scenes where a recurring villain or an enemy of one of the previous Phantoms is revealed by pulling a bandage off their chin to reveal the Skull Mark imprinted there. Also the rings could make any fire burn brighter and hotter if you put them in it. I think they originally belonged to Emperor Nero too.
I remember watching it at the time. The more mature themes of those 90'ies shows really spoke to me growing up.
Also: I love your shirt Dan.
This was my introduction to the Phantom and I was infatuated with this cartoon as a kid! Sad we never got a crossover with Space Precinct 2040 😂
Yeah i wouldve love if they introduced a Flash Gordon 2040 or a Mandrake 2040
My mom introduced me to The Phantom as a kid. I loved Defenders of the Earth, Phantom 2040, and the Billy Zane movie. I found it very entertaining as a kid. Rewatching as an adult, I find it a little unnerving seeing the parallels/warnings of the possible future
I think I have always been a sucker for old heroes. I love the JSA for instance. When my dad told me that Defender of the Earth were really heroes he used to read about when he was a kid I was hooked. I loved Phantom 2040 even more so seeing some of it could be tied to the DotE cartoon and its Phantom.
@@profdmiranda agreed. On all counts. I also love retro Golden Age and Silver Age heroes, and lesser known underappreciated heroes.
@@orinanime Phantom has S tier OG hero aura. You really can't get more pure of a masked adventure hero.
@@Healthy_Toki VERY true
I knew I recognized the art style, Peter Chung Aeon Flux art style easily recognized by fans.😁👍
@@kennyboggs3676 lol, I remember that back when I was in high school. It was pretty good IMO.😁👍
I love the fact that for Mark Hammill you bring up the 91 Guyver movie. So glad I'm buying that at the end of the month and thanks for bringing up 2040. I don't remember much of it, but I enjoyed what I saw.
Very underrated show cool cyber punk setting complex characters memorable villains.
I don't think I've ever felt so bad for a jobber henchmen like Graft he was a hero once but the Madisons the very people running the corrupt cut throat company he was fighting against turned him into their personal cybernetic enforcer for decades and when he regained a modicum of self determination and tried to end it all going out a hero... the bastards still wouldn't let him die with Max swooping in coldly remarking "Graft, you can't die, you're company property." and the really screwed up thing is even Max's ultimate fate was pretty damn depressing 😐
Graft's story beats always had a real noir feel to them and gave the world a very legitimate tone for cyberpunk. Great voice acting too from Ron Perlman.
So in the future we’ll all be 7 feet tall and weigh 106lbs?
That sounds great.
If you’re Sean One and part of the Free Orbital movement.
Yeah if you're into having bad knees and back pain. 😆
Strong winds will blow you away.
Debbie Harry used to do VO work for animation??? How did I never know this?
Indeed 😊 a multi talented badass legend
She did the singing parts for the character Angel in the animated movie Rock & Rule back in 1985. The closing duet with her and Robin Zander of Cheap Trick was/is awesome.
@@CantankerousDaveit is a dope song for sure
My brother and I loved Phantom 2040 and the Billy Zane movie. Also I remember 7-Eleven had a promo when the movie came out where you’d get a free ring like the Phantom’s when you bought any fountain drink or Slurpee. My brother and I got several of them. They were only made of cheap diecast metal and we kept breaking the bands when trying to adjust the size of it to fit our fingers. It wasn’t like we were big either, I was only 12 and he was only 10.
Sucks? I just re-watched this last week. The ghost that walks was awesome!😅
You secret galaxy uses spicy thumbnails I guess to get more people to watch. They didn’t use to and there vids are usually super wholesome and celebratory of their subjects
Does it end on a decent note? Or a cliffhanger since it was cancelled?
@yowatchie Decent note
They're not saying the show sucked, it was the future that sucked...or will suck?
I did actually see a few episodes back in the day, but it was weird as I would always remember it in a "Surely that wasn't a thing, I must have imagined it in a fever-dream or something" kind of way!
Yeah! Someone remembered the comic book series penciled by Steve Ditko and inked by Bill Reinhold who based the inking style on Ditko's own past work to produce an AMAZING 4-issue series. The Phantom 2040 comic book series is also notable in that it showcases the only known professional collaboration (a poster) by Ditko and fellow Spider-Man artist who took over when Ditko left -- John Romita!
To me, this animated series was pretty much criminally underrated (alongside Pirates of Dark Water, Cadillacs and Dinosaurs) back in the 1990's. Thanks to your video on Exo Squad, I've been seriously considering re-watching that series, which back in the day, quite honestly, really didn't pay attention to it; I'd really like that people who watched this video and either never saw Phantom 2040 or never really give it a chance back in the day consider revisiting it.
This was a Sunday morning cartoon in my area. I had to catch it early before church.
Yep!!!
This show actually got me into the Cyperpunk genre. I watched this when I was getting into middle school, and I already saw Aeon Flux when I was grossly underage to watch it but I recognized the animation style. And Ironically, this got me into The Phantom because my local paper started putting the newspaper comics in their rotation, and the movie was about to come out, which I was hyped for and still enjoyed!
Another of the old ones that modern me thought was some kind of fever dream.
Still watching, but one oddly vivid memory that comes to mind is him being able to mark anything with his ring... and one person getting mad at him for messing up her stuff with the phantom mark.
Still waiting for the crossover with Batman Beyond...
"Yo!"
Yes, that did 100% jog my memory.
Fun fact, the Phantom was also the visual inspiration for one of Mexico's longest-running luchadores, El Fantasma. His legit son, known as Santos Escobar, currently works in WWE and heads up the Legado Del Fantasma group further honoring that legacy.
I was aware of the Phantom because of Defenders of the Earth. So when Phantom 2040 came out I was very familiar with the character and I did watch the show. And I did see the Phantom movie with Billy Zane but on cable
Phantom 2040 was amazing. One of my favorite shows growing up. I was so disappointed it never got any toys.
I had no idea the show was canceled. I remember the finale ending the story almost perfectly.
The story was completed - but I think they jumped to the ending faster than they'd intended
I'm starting to realize how awesome were the 90s animation, Ion Flux, Beavis and Butthead, Phantom 2040, Batman, Exo Squad...
"TV38" Man, I half expected to see a commercial for The Movie Loft with Dana Hersey too.
"a single season of 35 episodes" seems so alien in this, massively disrespectful age, towards animation
the actual quality of those 35 episodes was drastically lower than a 13 show season now.
I bought the Genesis/Mega Drive game, was one of my first games I had, it was tough but awesome for me as a 8? year old. Otherwise I would not know what the hell "Phantom 2040" was :P I do think the whole space born villain was part of turnin me into a sci-fi nerd somehow
I watched Phantom 2040 when it was originally airing and loved it. I did not know it was based on a comic at that point. It’s been long enough that I no longer remember the original stories, however, I remember when the movie came out that I thought it was just okay. My biggest let down was it seemed only superficially related to the show I enjoyed.
As the target demo at the time this had very little chance. I vaugely remember seeing a little of this and my mom tried to introduce me to the old stuff at some point, but that wasn't competing with Batman or X-Men or whatever at that point. Now I'm actually really impressed by the black and white comic panels' art and how well it was rendered and the 2040 concept sounds so good, would totally watch that if it was being made today (even with all the irony of an Amazon or Disney or Netflix doing it). That solid purple jumpsuit though, that's never going to do it any favors for first impressions though.
I watched this a LOT as a teen. I always loved Aeon Flux, so this felt really familiar. One of the things I remember most, is Max's cat, Baudelaire. A name both pretentious and sweet.
Loved everything about this show. Such good writing. Up there with BTAS and Gargoyles. (I just wish they had found a way to have a Flash Gordan 2040 and Mandrake 2040 somehow guest star)
For what I remember, here in Mexico they only aired the first season.
I haven't seen the Phantom movie in years. I completely forgot Jason Voorhees made a cameo...
I had a VHS with some episodes on it growing up. I absolutely loved it as a kid. And now 29 years later here I am discovering there were more than 5 episodes...
I loved this show as a kid. It's how I learned about the character. Imagine my confusion when the movie came out and it was set in the 1930s lol but then that's how I learned about the generational tradition of passing the mantle of The Phantom down from parent to child (The Phantom has been a woman several times over the centuries btw, so it's not always a strictly male heir passed from the father). I should rewatch this sometime. Thanks for the video!
The "Yo!" Sincerely is what helped me remember that character
Thanks for that
The Phantom was my favourite character in 'Defenders of the Earth' (I always loved helicopters, and the Skull Copter was just cool), and I was *so* excited when 'Phantom 2040' came along. The dark tone, the one-against-many narrative, and all the sci-fi gimmicks had me enthralled. I also really enjoyed the Billy Zane movie!
First saw the Phantom in TV Tornado in the mid-Sixties, drawn by Sy Barry and was instantly hooked. He's very big in Australia, with Frew Comics running his adventures in a series that is currently numbering in the thousands. I only recently got to read his very first adventure, and it's amazing how advanced it was in very many ways, not least its depiction of women. Lee Falk was a terrific storyteller.
Phantom 2040 was my introduction to the character. I didn't catch it until it was in late night reruns in '97 or '98 and skipped out on the movie because Billy Zane and Treat Williams as headliners didn't inspire much confidence (I've since become a fan of the film and have come to appreciate it). As someone who has dealt with long bouts of insomnia through my life I've watched a lot of late night television. Stumbling onto this show was a treat, with the Aeon Flux aesthetic and the more 'grown-up' story it was way more intriguing than infomercials and Morton Downey, Jr reruns 😆 Thanks for mentioning that its on YT, I'm gonna give it a rewatch at 2 am!
It's too bad The Live action Phantom movie didn't do well. I loved that movie. Re-watched it all the time as a kid. And was my intro to the character. and was kind of nice to have as a Batman alternate.
OMG. We're already there.
The games are kind of regarded as hidden gems in the retro gaming community.. I would not have looked up the cartoon if not for finding the genesis game. Phantom was clearly missing something to make him a fitting 90s super hero. Maybe he needed more pouches or a cyborg arm.
Also they were tough, platformer, search action, and shmup. All rolled into one. I remember playing it at a video game store, in Eastridge Mall. It stuck with me, even though you explored a level, there were so many pathways to find.
The future is often predicted in the unlikeliest of places. The bother of Mobile/Cell phones ringing at inopportune moments was predicted in a humourous cartoon in a General interest magazine, perhaps a century before the reality that we live with today. And I would say that there's more than one person ready to keep Metropia from happening...
The Jason cameos in all these videos are exceptional! Never change Dan and team, never change.
Great video. Speaking of Aeon Flux, if you haven't already, would you be willing to do a video on the production history of Aeon Flux, covering not just the MTV animated series but also the Charlize Theron movie?
It's almost as if the Phantom 2040 superhero cartoon predicted our future, which ended up being a greedy dystopia not too far removed from what the cartoon predicted for 2040 back in 1994...
Yes! A Guyver reference! 🎉🍻
Holy caneloni, those first two minutes felt like a rogue news anchor finally being honest about what is going on; then one realizes you were just narrating the setup for Phantom 2040.
7:49 Sunday Mornings at 9:30am - similar time slot when it aired in Philadelphia. Not even a Saturday morning cartoon. It was relegated to the backwater of Sunday mornings, but worth seeking out.
I never caught on as a kid that this was Peter Chung animation, (I had the attention span of…a child) but the moment I saw that dude with the cyborg body, it is unmistakable.
Anyone remember The Phantom reboot from the 2000s that aired on Sci Fi Channel? Never saw it, but all I remember is somehow they made the costume worse than the full body purple suit.
Have seen it. Pretty mediocre with some hilarious scenes.
Goodness… am i the only one who sees endless things in this amazingly good series that are fast coming to fruition?
Ahead of its time and the makers of this show had so much love, insight AND foresight making this fine show!!! 10/10
Your videos are always so informative. I love them
This used to come on ungodly early where I lived. I used to set my alarm for 5 AM so I could watch it.
I would catch it sometimes on UPN but it would be in that early Saturday/Sunday morning spot like it's still dark out. I too enjoyed the movie.
Second grade, got a TRS-80 at a yard sale and was so excited to use it on weekends (only time I was allowed to play it), I would plug in the video cord every commercial during this and whatever else was on saturday mornings.
Remember this when it first aired the body designs freaked me out, and it always reminded me of the Sherlock Holmes animated series that aired at the same time.
I feel like I was the perfect target audience for this show- just old enough that I was starting to watch Liquid Television (quietly so my parents wouldn't notice), but still young enough to be willing to watch Saturday morning cartoons, and with a niche interest in 1930's pulp heroes (I adore The Shadow). I loved this show! It was just gritty enough to appeal to a teenager starting to be more interested in gritty stuff. It's a shame it didn't last longer, but also stuff that really hits my own particular niche interests tend to be short lived because, well, my interests are pretty niche.
oh man! this was a great cartoon! I wish there had been more of it.
Watched it as a kid. Loved the Intro, I really liked the movie, even had it on VHS.
Phantom 2040 was shown on BBC TV in the UK and I watched it there as a kid. I'd have been about 14 and it was perfect for me. Edgy, a little violent but also unlike anything else in so many ways. I adored it, and I still do.
12:05 I see you there Jason!! Love looking for him (good work editor).
I remember watching it now and then since it wasn’t in the usual rotation of cartoons for me and my brother
Watched a couple of episodes back in the day, and I liked it a lot, but the problem with scheduled television is that it was hard to follow.
Back then I knew about the Aeon Flux connection (that Peter Chung character design is unmistakeable), but alas, it was not to last. Years later, I remember feeling a "Phantom 040 vibe" when I saw Batman Beyond for the first time.
"Gray Ghost" was also the character Adam West portrayed in an episode of "Batman: The Animated Series", a crime fighter from before Batman's time. Given what you said about The Phantom being called that at one point, I wonder if that was a subtle nod to how The Phantom predated even Batman as a crime-fighting character?
I frikkin LOVED Phantom 2040!!!
The song, the atmosphere...
I even have a very similar ring on my fingers.
Btw, the videogame is an extremely underrated metroidvania, and an excellent adaptation!
Also used to see this show back when it was in a time of not just Saturday Morning cartoons but also can catch Sunday times as well. Along with weekday afternoons real different and also it was the era of Cable Tv when it was still in.
Didn't this show crossover with Sherlock Holms in the 21st Century?
Nope, I think that was Bravestarr that did.
I don't know why the thing I remember most from this show were the ads that highlighted the magnetic rope.
The Guyver! Thank you! That's where I know Mark Hamil from. Did he ever do any other voice work?
I distinctly remember the videogame but had no idea it was ever a TV show until literally right now. Shame given that the art design, story, and setting could have led it to a much more prolonged run. Possibly matching Batman or X-Men. Probably should have gone with the breakfast cereal and toy line.
Lastly, bit off topic, but does anyone else ever think about how much unsold Captain Planet merchandise made from cheap plastics and toxic chemicals is currently sitting at the bottom of numerous landfills? I'm sure Gaia would be devastated if she only knew.
Surprised you didn't mention the Phantom figure that I remember being advertised in Wizard from Street Players. It is one of the worst atrocities to a franchise since the first "Mission Impossible" movie action figures.
Which is a shame, because the accessories were great. You got his holster belt, throne, 2 guns, and 2 real metal rings.
Hey, used to keep that rubber face mask and tuxedo chest plate from the MI figure on a Gumby figure. He was Gumby, International Man of Mystery.
I saw this show back when originally aired, but due to sindication in my area, it came on early Sunday IIRC, so wasn't able to catch regularly.
Thank you Dan and team for doing this. I’m superhumanly grateful that there are other fans of this classic like I was when this aired!
The Æon Flux connection makes sense, since i thought that one guy looked like Trevor.
Never watched this one, but was aware it existed.
I remember watching the pilot on VHS that my folks rented when I was a kid.
I had a chance to watch a few episodes growing up. They had this show scheduled on the secluded Sunday only schedule.
You know the chances of your animated show failing goes up dramatically If it was placed on Sundays.
Still I got the chance to watch them all eventually on here and I'm glad I did.
Check it out if you never had the chance. The intro BGM theme for the show gets you pumped up just listening to it. 😀
Thanks for the video Secret Galaxy.
I should listen to the last section of this content again! Great Stuff, as always!
Thank you for bringing up Hamill's work in The Guyver.
I remember seeing this on Sunday mornings. Weird attempts at computer animations, ugly character faces and art style (I’m surprised but also not at the connection to Aeon Flux) and not a hero I connected with.
"The Guyver's Mark Hamill", you guys crack me up.