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  • Dave fixes a thermal issue with his old video editing laptop, a HP Pavilion dv7
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  • @reddragon27284
    @reddragon27284 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Dave! You didn’t take the fan off the heat sink. There’s ALWAYS a big build up of dust and fluff on the output of the fan before the heat sink fins. I’ve had to clean so many of these things.

    • @robbieaussievic
      @robbieaussievic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ..... Correct, the silver shroud removes and the fan rotor on some models remove allowing you to place some grease in.
      (if you don't want to replace it).

    • @uK8cvPAq
      @uK8cvPAq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yep, I bet there's still a big lint carpet in there. Blowing air doesn't always remove it either.

    • @EEVblog
      @EEVblog  3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Thanks, will check if I open it again, at the moment it's working so no need.

    • @Ashen2501
      @Ashen2501 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@EEVblog It have to be done, before "something shitty happens". AMD's GPU's never liked overheating.

    • @SimoWill75
      @SimoWill75 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrMe01 Haha yep, peels off like the lint in the tumble drier lint catchers

  • @rettile546798
    @rettile546798 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    If i'm not wrong, you Need to manually install the Windows 7 x64 drivers by extracting the exe downloaded from AMD website, then you go to packages/drivers/display and then by opening up device manager, open the properties of the graphics card, then update driver, select the folder and click next, After that, reboot the PC and voilà, drivers installed!

    • @alierengam1749
      @alierengam1749 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      i installed xp drivers to win10 using that method and its working a charm

    • @dragosmihai3489
      @dragosmihai3489 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did similar on an Acer. I just downloaded the drivers from Acer, unpacked and installed from Device Manager, Update Driver, Have disk, and select the .ini for Win7 x64. It moaned then about the driver being unsigned, so had to disable the driver signing check in Win 10, but it worked.

    • @hennochoi
      @hennochoi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a pavillion with Radeon graphics too and it was a pain installing its driver and using compatibility mode doesn't really work since the issue is that windows keeps trying to install the wrong drivers, from what I found out the biggest issue is caused by the audio drivers

  • @mrlithium69
    @mrlithium69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    You needed to disassemble the fan, because theres always a giant matted up crust of dust built up between the fan and the heatsink blades...

    • @punker4Real
      @punker4Real 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah i take apart my alienware yearly to clean it out

    • @Wisecrackerist
      @Wisecrackerist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was screaming at the screen, "open the fan assembly and remove the lint buildup on the radiator !!!!" :(( :(( :((

    • @umageddon
      @umageddon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just blowing it out with ‘proper’ air pressure always works for me.....

    • @em0_tion
      @em0_tion 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And not just that, you also need to clean the stator and rotor and grease it up to reduce friction + noise and prolong its life.

    • @JohnClulow
      @JohnClulow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Wisecrackerist This is a pre-recorded video so he isn't able to hear when you say things to him. For the longest time I thought he was just ignoring me, but then a friend explained what was going on. Hope this helps!

  • @justin.campbell
    @justin.campbell 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    the amount of dirty jokes in this is incredible

    • @faizanjoyia
      @faizanjoyia 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes the one at 7:54 is the best

  • @cougar02000
    @cougar02000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Windows 8 graphics drivers usually work with windows 10, you've got nothing to lose giving it a try.

  • @uK8cvPAq
    @uK8cvPAq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    The dust from the fan likes to accumulate against the heatsink grill on the inside, normally you have to remove the shroud from the fan to access it and remove the dust/lint carpet which builds up over the years. Did you do that off camera?

    • @samjones1954
      @samjones1954 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ok, so we tell him the same thing... mine is less winded, but you get 25 likes and I get 1... WTF...lol

    • @AMalas
      @AMalas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@samjones1954 no one cares

    • @Passalente
      @Passalente 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@samjones1954 Boobs in avatar may help

    • @bluecar5556
      @bluecar5556 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@samjones1954 You are checking back on a random youtube comment to see how much likes you have against someone else who said the same thing. This is what's wrong with social media. Turn off your phone for just one day. Bet you can't do it.

    • @samjones1954
      @samjones1954 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bluecar5556 I am very sorry for you bluecar5556. There is a thing in our world called HUMOUR. Humour is something that people like me and the person I had sent that message to both have. If you want to worry about anything, If your American, you have lots to worry about. You don't even have a country anymore. P.S. I don't own a cell phone, so I have no problem doing without it for a day.

  • @redtails
    @redtails 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    the shiny plastic design always made me cringe, even when these machines were brand new.

  • @Pwaak
    @Pwaak 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very fine job Dave!

  • @greatreset3
    @greatreset3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I just happen to be watching this on my DV7 ! 👍

  • @Seegalgalguntijak
    @Seegalgalguntijak 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've done this type of work to many laptops. The key is, you should also disassemble the fan assembly, separate the fan from the heatsink fins that it blows through, because that's usually where there is most of the dust - often you can pull a rectangular carpet of dust from the heat sink fins and that's what prevents air flow through the heatsink.

    • @Graham_Langley
      @Graham_Langley 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The HP Probook 4540s I'm typing this on slowly got hotter and hotter a few months back. A lot easier to take apart than Dave's and as you say there was a solid mat of dust between the fan and the heatpipe radiator.

  • @bertblankenstein3738
    @bertblankenstein3738 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done Dave! 👍

  • @thijsloon
    @thijsloon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Ive got the same laptop as a 15.6" and it is still going strong as a daily driver. The video card is indeed not supported any more. However Leshcatlabs provides drivers for it that work fine for years now. I can remember that it has some troubles switching between de onboard and radeon graphics when in energy saving mode. Solved by selecting high performance mode.

    • @TheBigupz
      @TheBigupz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      yup leshcatlabs solved all the issues with interchangable graphics, they be blessed

    • @TheAstronomyDude
      @TheAstronomyDude 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What's leshcatlabs? I use this laptop and I never managed to get the gpu running with windows 10.

    • @TheBigupz
      @TheBigupz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheAstronomyDude there were a team of some amazing people that developed a custom driver for this interchangable nonsense

    • @EDGARDOUX1701
      @EDGARDOUX1701 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have the same, mines is a DV7T-6c00-17", custom, had win 10 with Leshcatlabs, works ok but gets so hot had to go back on Win 8.1 and use original drivers. And lately youtube video freezes but audio continues and freezes my pc for about a minute then it all goes normally but only on Firefox. Opera, Edge or other browsers work ok. Had to "reball" with hot air the Radeon video chip a few times and works ok. Really love this HP DV7T notebook and don't change cause can't find a 17", at least here in Buenos Aires, Argentina. Is there a way to disable or take away the Radeon?? I use my notebook ONLY with Altium, Multisim, program PSoCs and navegate thru internet, don't need HD or sort of things. Long time subscriber!

    • @TheBigupz
      @TheBigupz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EDGARDOUX1701 u'd have to disable it at a Bios level and use windows 7 so windows does not automatically install its driver, thats how ive "fixed" most of them

  • @sneugler
    @sneugler 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My dv6 has been going strong for 10 years now, I’m kinda amazed. Haven’t even replaced the hdd and It’s snappy

  • @markg735
    @markg735 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think Dave will be happy with a Legion 5. I have a Legion 5 as my primary laptop. It's a beast. It survives being dragged around to all sorts of places, compiling for hours at a time, and everything else I've thrown at it.

  • @MauroTamm
    @MauroTamm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Windows 10 forums: "Custom Driver : Intel HD Graphics & ATI Combo (Alpha) - by nIGHTmAYOR". 6770M is listed under supported hardware.

    • @matthewjbauer1990
      @matthewjbauer1990 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The 6770m has WHQL drivers and Crimson mobile support direct from AMD. There is only 1 package for each, and it was just to get Windows 10 compatibility and that is it. You must get the drivers from AND though. YMMV though as I had a problem with a desktop 5700 series card.

  • @testgearaddicts4607
    @testgearaddicts4607 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a (US based) fan but I've been away for a bit. Today I typed "electronic engineering" into my YT search bar and had to scroll down passed about 40 videos before the 'EEVBlog' showed up. The YT search only populated a video from 11 years ago with "electronic engineer" in the title sequence. Maybe this comment is useless, maybe not..maybe you know, maybe you didn't. As a fan, I thought your channel would be up top. Much love and Prost.

  • @irishguy200007
    @irishguy200007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All these type of laptops were middle of the road devices and prone to heating. What I don't understand is they are laptops but once placed on the persons lap they couldn't breath as the air holes for the fan was on the bottom.

  • @williamgottlieb8723
    @williamgottlieb8723 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The dust clinging to the fan blades is the problem. Take any fan, computer or household and notice the amazing difference in performance between dirty fan blades and ones that are completely cleaned.

  • @a178design
    @a178design 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Had one of those, nice machine. Mine lasted quite a while through college and overseas but was no match to a 2 year old with a cup of water. RIP mate see u in silicon heaven.

  • @pirateman1966
    @pirateman1966 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My PC would just shut down without warning!
    Opened up the guts to find an almost 1/4" blanket of lint and dust covering the CPU cooling fins.
    2 years worth of daily ops and the CPU was totally choked up by belly-button lint!

  • @Ajtech369
    @Ajtech369 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had this exact same laptop as well and everything you said is what happened to me until it stopped turning on

  • @SonicBoone56
    @SonicBoone56 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "I'm a nipple man myself." Dave confirmed to be part of TrackPoint master race.

  • @forgingluck
    @forgingluck 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've got one of those laying around too, from my early days of college. Gt630m version though. Still supported on windows 10 lol. Simply won't boot now due to the thermal issue. Smelled something cooking last time I tried.

  • @TheAstronomyDude
    @TheAstronomyDude 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm watching this on a dv7 :) I replaced the motherboard a few years ago.

  • @dieboodskapper
    @dieboodskapper 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had exactly the same model HP also suffered from thermal issues. This was the turning point for me, I decided never....ever to buy an expensive laptop in my life again....either their fans start making a noise or it simply fail and its game over.

  • @brianbrians3157
    @brianbrians3157 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Its probably defaulting to the intel graphics, you cant install drivers for the Amd graphics while running on the intel one. Try going into the bios and making Amd the default graphics and disabling switchable graphics mode. The Amd graphics should still work before you install a driver for it with the generic windows display driver.

  • @douro20
    @douro20 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to have one of those laptops, except mine had a Turion. They are very well made.

  • @alphanimal
    @alphanimal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Be careful when you blow compressed air into fans. The bearing breaks easier than you think, also it induces voltage into the mainboard. I always hold the rotor so it doesn't spin too fast.

    • @jameshorn7830
      @jameshorn7830 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The tech boys on Maximum PC and PC Gamer warn about this routinely. I just insert a toothpick in the blades to prevent spinning. But I also manually clean the dust off the blades with a soft bristled brush or even alcohol on swabs. Those little fans are a bitch.

  • @alanevans4955
    @alanevans4955 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have an i5 variant w/ only integrated graphics and I still have screaming fan problems. It was actually my wife's but she gave it up because it was too loud and kept burning her lap. I took it apart just like this and blew out all of the dust and replaced the thermal paste. It helped but it didn't last long, it doesn't scald anymore but it still screams like a banshee even under moderate workloads. I think it's just poor thermal design, but for how little I use it now it's ok. I swapped out the spinning disk for a SSD and maxed out the RAM and it's still perfectly usable.

  • @PilotPlater
    @PilotPlater 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the algorithm is strong on this one Dave

    • @EEVblog
      @EEVblog  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      From the live stats, nah, everyone is watching the election.

  • @mikus4242
    @mikus4242 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those HP DV5 and DV7 were infamous for the cooling fan failing. Very common part found on Amazon in the day. I repaired my daughter’s DV5 by replacing the fan. The fan was $5 or $6 bucks. Then a couple of hours of labor for a complete disassembly.

  • @McTroyd
    @McTroyd 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    2 approaches that have worked for me:
    1) I've had luck putting Windows 8(.1) drivers on Windows 10. If they were available for that particular Radeon chipset, it might work. But, as you say, it's not exactly high-end, so...
    2) Uninstall the driver completely and disable the "unknown device" in device manager. There might be some quiescent power draw from the GPU being soldered-in, but if Windows doesn't ever bring it up, it won't matter.
    Slap a new battery in that puppy and you've got a good "don't care if this gets destroyed" field laptop.

  • @TheCod3r
    @TheCod3r 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know this video is a month old but thought I'd add my bit. If the laptop continues to overheat in the future it may indicate a gpu issue. It isn't the BGA that people claim it is and is actually an issue with a lot of older chipsets especially on HP machines. HP have always been known for really bad gpu issues in terms of thermals and eventually black screen of death. Unfortunately at that point the only option is to replace the gpu. I'm pretty sure you're more than capable of a little bga work though :)

  • @rcflight13
    @rcflight13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Had a i7 DV6 that has the same issue, including same graphics card issues. Repaste and KDE Neon Linux fixed it pretty good.

    • @apachelives
      @apachelives 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its the AMD "ULPS" bug, disable in the registry to fix.

  • @kalikatz2382
    @kalikatz2382 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the same unit, did the same blow job and lube routine. Works a treat, howecer, sry, no windows on it. replaced the batteries a year ago. Fun and quick little unit.

  • @petersage5157
    @petersage5157 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    As I recall, some Dells were still available with Dellbuntu when this laptop was made. Debian Buster should be a real screamer on that laptop and has good Radeon legacy support.
    Buster runs faster on my Pi than Win7 does on that laptop. Just sayin' - good code on a potato runs better than bloatware on a beast.

  • @jparker509
    @jparker509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watching you disassemble this is literally hilarious as hell to me. I've worked as a repair tech and a network engineer for many years and this is just funny as hell.
    So yeah good job

    • @poiiihy
      @poiiihy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      how so?

    • @jparker509
      @jparker509 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@poiiihy Well he does everything that he shouldn't and takes as much time to take it apart as possible. I'm just talking shit because I have taken more than a few of those apart.

    • @EEVblog
      @EEVblog  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jparker509 It always takes longer when a) You have to figure it out for the first time, and b) You are shooting a video so doing commentary etc while doing it. Would take me a minute now that I know how to do it.

    • @jparker509
      @jparker509 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@poiiihy I was just stating it was funny his train of thought while doing the disassembly. Me I just take all the screws out then figure it out from there usually faster and easier that way. If you don't have the service manual for the engraving those are mostly useless.

    • @jparker509
      @jparker509 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EEVblog yeah I know I was just stating that it was an entertaining video. It also said a lot about your thought process. Don't get your knickers tied in a knot.

  • @irishguy200007
    @irishguy200007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What paste did Dave use?

  • @oblitum
    @oblitum 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love Australia, love yours videos

  • @lachlanlau
    @lachlanlau 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    DV6 was my first computer!!!

  • @kam_mil
    @kam_mil 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a radeon 6750 running in my pc right now, the drivers for it are easily available.

  • @RoterFruchtZwerg
    @RoterFruchtZwerg 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    that fan spin 😱

  • @FrankGennari
    @FrankGennari 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had to replace the fan in my daughter's laptop a few weeks ago and it was *not* easy to figure out how to get it apart. Usually when I tear down an old laptop that I don't plan to fix I put some force into it and it's not that bad. She was using this one for her school distance learning so I had to be careful. I first tried to remove the keyboard, plastic button strip, and various screws I didn't have to. Then I realized the key was to take out the DVD drive, and it came apart easily. I had to take it apart three times too, first to clean it (which didn't help), second to take a picture of the fan so that I could find a replacement online, and third to install the new fan. But now it's working fine, and super quiet rather than sounding like a jet engine.

  • @wingedrhino33
    @wingedrhino33 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That dust underneath your keyboard is mostly dead skin. So technically, you have bits and pieces of deceased human body parts under you keyboard...

  • @tzisorey
    @tzisorey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ugh - flashbacks to doing HP warranty work for NCSS back in the day.
    They owed us almost $50,000 when they went belly-up.

  • @auronoxe
    @auronoxe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    When Win7 support endet and Win10 had produced problems on my 8 year old notebook I switched to Ubuntu Linux. This was the best decision ever! Free, super fast, no update problems, no viruses, very stable, no need to use a command line (like 10 years ago). And „Shotcut“ is a great, free video editing application (available in the Ubuntu store). I‘m so happy I overcame my „fears“ of switching to a „real“ operating system and started that little adventure. ;-) I need to use Win10 in the office .. so I can feel the difference every day. I really hate that on a weekly base the office 365 applications seem to change due to some great ideas of some MS product managers. And once in a week left and right display are switched again. What a crappy OS.

  • @richardperritt
    @richardperritt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a common issue with HP laptops. My Dad had one that exhibited such thermal issues a month after the warranty expired. Performed the same fix and the system ran for another 3 years (Dad's doesn't need to be replaced as often as he has light uses for it). I suspect I'm going to be getting another one shipped to me soon and the fix will be the same

  • @jparker509
    @jparker509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The fans pull air through the keyboard as an alternative to the bottom vents That's why there's all that crap in there.

  • @KoScosss
    @KoScosss 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    > Me seeing my laptop on thumbnail and in video > Had dv6 6051er. Said to never buy an HP laptop after this. Fan breaking, bad battery time, bad drivers for video card.

  • @lint2023
    @lint2023 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wish you had discussed the best procedures for (how much) doing the thermal paste. I did mine, solved the fan noise (looked like a rat nest in there), but it gets hot sometimes, now. Maybe not enough thermal grease. ?

  • @SidneyCritic
    @SidneyCritic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can do a fresh Win10 install just by holding Shift and clicking Power and Restart and in the menu it auto gets the MS files from the net for the install, ie no disk needed.

  • @Shutupimslow
    @Shutupimslow 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very disappointed to not see you remove the panel on the fan to clean between the fan blades and the heatsink blades. This is where 90% of thermal issues occur, as the heatsink fills with dust and hair. It cannot be cleaned with air without removing the panel, as by the time it's a problem all the dust and hair has compacted into a solid chunk.

  • @janneaalto3956
    @janneaalto3956 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My mom had a dv7 until a few months back.
    I got the Radeon to work on W10 by turning off driver signature enforcement and manually installing the mobility radeon drivers for W8.
    It does put up the ugly background notification on the bottom right of the screen and the whole hack had to be applied almost every time after windows had received a bigger update.
    But it did work.

  • @NanoBurger
    @NanoBurger 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always liked these laptops. Big screen and a fingerprint reader...it made you feel like you were living in the future.

  • @matteocomola2859
    @matteocomola2859 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The slow boot is a problem with win 10 and the graphisc card power saving settings. I you change the registry entry enableulps from 1 to 0 the boot time will improuve drastically.

  • @SjoerdvanGestel
    @SjoerdvanGestel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I tried fixing up a similar aged HP laptop, but whatever I tried (dust removal, new past and whatnot) but it kept overheating (guess mobile AMD chips from the time were not that great). But ended up preplacing it as it was no longer able to install windows updates without thermal throttling and crashing due to it.

  • @muzzaball
    @muzzaball 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice work Dave. I'm with you re $50 Arctic Silver or whatever thermal compound. I have been using Unick which is for semiconductors and their heatsinks - never had an issue with my PC builds.

  • @hardergamer
    @hardergamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The amount of new and old laptops I had to fix with the heatsink not touching the CPU/GPU and or bad compound is unreal! I have a 6 months old ASUS here now that I needed to bend the copper heatsink bar a tad put some new compound in and all is good.

    • @uK8cvPAq
      @uK8cvPAq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think they've made them too thin/weak that it starts warping under normal use.

  • @RainerMeier
    @RainerMeier 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    @EEVblog
    Actually mostly laptops suffer from blocked air vents by hair and dust as the cooling fins are very thin and dust gets blocked in there forming a solid wall. As a result the fan is blowing at full speed towards the dust wall and not passing the cooler. So it's often recommended to split the fan from the cooler and check if there is any clogged hair inside.
    Also the switchable graphics works in Windows 10 too. I think I got it running by installing latest available drivers from amd.com web page (not the ones on hp.com).
    The long boot time is actually another problem of the Windows 10 driver model which causing the laptop to "stall" for about 20-30 seconds just doing nothing. There is an easy fix for this though. Disable ULPS (Ultra Low Power State) in the device connfiguration.
    You can do this via registry. Paste the following sniplet into a reg file and import it:
    ----
    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e968-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0000]
    "EnableUlps"=dword:00000000
    ----
    NOTE: The UUID might need adjustment depending on your model. Open regedit and browse HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\, then search for your graphics card model as it appears in device manager (or PCI ID) to find the correct device class.
    After this modifications you should be good to go and the laptop should boot from off to desktop in 15-20 seconds.

  • @user-vj4hq2ij3o
    @user-vj4hq2ij3o 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    10:50 you miss the thermal silicon pad for the mosfet near the processer

  • @Dust599
    @Dust599 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That cd reminds me of a tech call out I had to do decades back. Someone had managed to jam a cd in a 5 1/4 floppy drive... Some people just do not get technology...

  • @shanesrandoms
    @shanesrandoms 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gotta love some of these laptop thermal designs. Had Toshiba A33 (i think it was - old man memory now) for work back in mid-2000s. That had p4 desktop cpu?! Had to pull heatsinks out every couple months to clean up else listen to fan run crazy and even shutdowns.

  • @DanielLopez-up6os
    @DanielLopez-up6os 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    For the radeon graphics to work in windows 10 you have to manually install the driver trough device manager, once you have used something like 7 zip to extract the files from the driver exe, you can manually installl them.

  • @danielk3727
    @danielk3727 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The keyboard on that beast is absolutely horrendous

  • @TheRailroad99
    @TheRailroad99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Even the older Radeon HD2000 series work rather well with W10.
    The switchable graphics thing is the issue. Maybe you can disable it in the BIOS and always enable the powerful GPU

    • @hardergamer
      @hardergamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can set it to performance in power options and it will stay with the dedicated GPU as long as it's plugged in. :)

    • @apachelives
      @apachelives 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No. Its the AMD "ULPS" bug, disable in registry to fix. Google "AMD ULPS disable"

    • @TheRailroad99
      @TheRailroad99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@apachelivesdidnt know ULPS is also a problem on Laptops. (except that long blackscreen on Boot. That is a classic ULPS issue). ULPS is mainly a problem with Crossfire systems

    • @hardergamer
      @hardergamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheRailroad99 Allways had to turn off ULPS when overclocking as well as XF, but mainly do it in MSI Afterburner.

  • @FireballXL55
    @FireballXL55 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I did not see but unless you cleaned out the fan heatsink, they get a curtain of dust and lint in front of the radiator fins.
    You will be doing it again shortly.

  • @thomasw6169
    @thomasw6169 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man i wish there was some real electronics content again

  • @davidelliott8016
    @davidelliott8016 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    At least you can take out the hard drive easily! On my HP, I had to take out eighteen screws and take the thing to pieces just to get at the hard drive.

  • @Hexureus
    @Hexureus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to see you listen/command some of those jtag ports onboard and try some boundary scans

  • @mattelder1971
    @mattelder1971 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The reason that screw has both keyboard and disc icons next to is is that you have to remove it for both items.

  • @FortyTwoAnswerToEverything
    @FortyTwoAnswerToEverything 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    you can still install drivers using unsigned driver feature. Source: I did the same on a old 2008 Dell Precision with an old ATI X1400 Radeon under win 10
    edit:
    1) Download the 64-bit ATI driver that was available for vista or 7
    2) Go into windows settings > recovery options > advanced startup
    3) Reboot
    4) On a blue startup screen, it will let you choose a startup option, choose unsigned driver
    5) Attempt to run the setup for the ATI driver you downloaded
    6) If it doesn't run, try extracting the files into a folder (7zip works great here). Manually go into Device Manager, right-click the GPU missing the driver, and attempt to point to the .inf file inside the folder you extracted. Hopefully this works. Mini edit: When you attempted the run the setup, it may have already extracted the files for you in the root of C:

    • @apachelives
      @apachelives 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      AMD "ULPS" bug, disable in registry to fix. The driver is fine.

  • @jh77sly
    @jh77sly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Install the old radeon drivers on windows 10 using compatability mode set to windows 7 and it should work a treat. That's what I had to do with the old one I gave to my sister-in-law. The Beats audio driver can also be installed the same way.

    • @robbieaussievic
      @robbieaussievic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      .... Win10 update will continue to replace your legacy driver and it will fall over again,
      You don't want a machine with WinUpdate disabled, My advice, (40 years exp.)
      Give the machine to someone you don't like. Don't purchase products with AMD components.

  • @aaa000777
    @aaa000777 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should have checked the solder connections on all of the connectors while you had the motherboard out. Especially the power jack.

  • @xxDrain
    @xxDrain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All you did was replace the thermal paste. Where's the repair?

  • @jakegardner8667
    @jakegardner8667 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Custom bios allows for newer wifi card. I believe I have windows 10 with the AMD GPU going on mine, by extracting the driver and installing manually. It is so similar to the 2011 macbook pro, you can dualboot Mac OS X something or other.

  • @DogsBAwesome
    @DogsBAwesome 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've worked on my laptops and consumer ones are always more fiddly. Business laptops are usually better to work on. Usually on those old laptops, at least one of the screw standoffs snaps off.

  • @scowell
    @scowell 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Exact same machine... exact same problem... I chose the diamond paste, why not? I never *ever* want to get inside again! It's my camping/ham radio laptop now... very happy with my Dell Inspiron P35E... I went for both SSD (for booting OS) and HD (for archival stuff). Runs Sony Vegas just fine for video editing, has Radeon graphics etc.

  • @oskimac
    @oskimac 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You need to lift the silver plate on the fan and clean the vents ...

  • @klaasklapsigaar1081
    @klaasklapsigaar1081 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Use the Crimson Edition 16.2.1 Beta drivers from AMD's website. Don't forget to uncheck 'check for updates' after install completes. Works great on a DV7 4030ed I still use lol (radeon mobily 5470) Now plays 1080p smoothly in browser, Bob's your uncle.

  • @savagemadman2054
    @savagemadman2054 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Back when I was in computer repair we saw LOADS of dead HP DV series systems with dead nVidia GeForce GPUs and/or nForce chipsets. Failure rate as a % of units must have been crazy. This was Win Vista/early Win7 era.

    • @TheRailroad99
      @TheRailroad99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep. Remember that. Nvidia 8000 series chipsets (and the corresponding quadros) from production date 2007 to August 2008. Had bad underfill with a wrong thermal expansion coefficient. The chip basically separated itself from the carrier on a microscopic level.
      There were many laptops with this chipset.
      Thinkpad T61(p), Macbooks, HP DV.
      The Apple and HP where especially affected since they both ran very hot, which accelerated the process a lot. They had a lifespan of around 1-2 years while the Thinkpad lasted 2-4 years. But they all die eventually. For the thinkpad, later production runs have a fixed chip (date code aug/2008 and later).
      The corresponding desktop cards where also affected, but the usually outlasted their usable lifespan as GPUs developed very fast at that time. Some didn't. That's were the GPU baking myth comes from - those cards/ laptop boards could be temporarily revived by baking them.
      Radeon HD5000/6000 series had a similar issue

    • @eDoc2020
      @eDoc2020 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheRailroad99 August 2008? Rats, my T61p is dated 08/06 on the bottom sticker. I guess that means I'm on borrowed time then, unless the motherboard was changed at some point. Do you know how to tell by looking at the board?

    • @TheRailroad99
      @TheRailroad99 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eDoc2020 yes I do!
      Take of the Heatsink, then Look at the NVS140M chip. It will have a datecode like 0826A2 where 08 is the year and 26 the week of the year. August would be something higher than 31.
      Keep in mind the T61 is also available as an Intel-only which of course is not affected.

    • @eDoc2020
      @eDoc2020 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheRailroad99 Thank you, I'll take a look when I have a chance. I actually have the 'p' model with the 570M (G84M) instead of the standard NVS140 (G86M) model. I presume the datecode is the same but do you know if the fix date is the same?

    • @TheRailroad99
      @TheRailroad99 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eDoc2020 same for both chips.
      By the way. There are undervolting BIOSes available that greatly prolong the life of the GPU, even if its a bad one.

  • @tomas-sk
    @tomas-sk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The slow boot issue on Win10 can be fixed through registry, just google "ULPS slow boot fix".
    Or just Open regedit
    search for EnableULPS
    change the value to "0"
    (all occurrences)
    reboot
    No need to revert to outdated and unsupported Win7 or messing with various drivers.

  • @kennith.
    @kennith. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now I feel I can try do my kids one and replace the paste and clean the fan.

  • @bastian433
    @bastian433 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    yeahh I had one with some sort of cool bubble design, and yes it was very hot. mine had a AMD Turion II M520. Used it for school. It collected a lot of dust between the fan and the heatsink. The thing with the discs between the drive and the case. is also familiar. Found a lot of discs at work :P You can put a second drive in it but the drive bays were quite expensive and hard to get.
    Edit: But even after cleaning the AMD Turion II M520 ran hot and was slow. It had silly special drivers to use the Radeon.

  • @SudosFTW
    @SudosFTW 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    the Snappy Driver Installer project might be what you're looking for to getting this thing happy. you have to set aside 20-something gigs for it however and it's a torrent-only download. it has basically every driver known to man inside, for XP all the way up through 10. Good to keep on a flash drive and update every year.

  • @travis4798
    @travis4798 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The compound isn't bad for the age. You kind of fixed the overheating problem unfortunately the design of the cooler is poor. These laptops are even worse with Intel cpu's in them, even without a gpu. Got to keep them really clean and raise the back up which is why we always used a extended life battery with ours. I recently opened it up for a second time and replaced the compound, gave it a good cleaning, and swapped the hard drive for an ssd to reduce heat.

  • @Maleko48
    @Maleko48 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the 15 inch next gen version of that. i7 3632QM w/GT630M. The hinges broke their plastic mounts in the chassis, but otherwise it is still going strong as a daily driver desktop.

  • @dragos2010full1
    @dragos2010full1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you can disable the radeon gpu from the laptop bios since it is a hp hit f10 key right after you turn it on and you should be able to see a option in bios regarding graphics card bs and you have to either set it to disabled or UMA only which uma means the intel hd graphics

  • @WacKEDmaN
    @WacKEDmaN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i have my sisters old DV8... it failed..yes got really hot...couldnt work out what when wrong with it...nothing could be replaced.. now its only good for parts...
    PITA to get apart... and even more of a PITA to put back together!

    • @spehropefhany
      @spehropefhany 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wonder if the heat pipe seals fail sometimes. It would be non-obvious.

  • @clubgus07
    @clubgus07 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Works for my hp dv6 on 10 using the universal amd drivers should work it again. But First check the bios for switchable graphics is enabled. Do you think that the abc cd/dvd was causing the rattling just a thought

  • @th34lch3m1st
    @th34lch3m1st 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would give linux a chance on that machine. Old radeon cards still have reasonable performance with linux drivers.

  • @TheHordeQ
    @TheHordeQ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    DV7s were during the reflow die era. Fun times. You can also disable driver signing and force drivers for the graphics card pretty easily. I've done it on a few dozen machines now.
    Fanboy call-out or not, AMD support in Linux is far superior and they run far more efficiently. Program support has come a long way as well. I've been able to drop windows completely and still use every program I've tried that doesn't require a rootkit(usually anti cheat software improperly implemented into games). Wine is light-years ahead of where they were even 5 years ago. All of my editing and developer tools work better than they did in windows because Wine Is Not an Emulator... Lol.
    Scoffing at it is a serious mistake.

    • @kentahirono
      @kentahirono 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      AMD support is founded on open source drivers and tearing, the proprietary AMD drivers shows often lower performances and bugs.

  • @alexmihai22
    @alexmihai22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Alright! A very good way of learning electronics is doing repairs!

  • @Adamisgood24
    @Adamisgood24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been using Linux for 16 years!

  • @DrFrank-xj9bc
    @DrFrank-xj9bc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Recently, I successfully exchanged the graphics card inside an old desktop PC to a legacy HD 6450, and the W10 drivers were working fine.
    The AMD Radeon site also lists w10 32/64bit drivers for the HD6770M. Have you already tried these?

  • @xephael3485
    @xephael3485 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love/hate the HP DV7... Very good machine 👍 would have been awesome if they used higher quality components and designed it to be more serviceable.

  • @LinuxGalore
    @LinuxGalore 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have just done this with my 9 year old HP 17" 3rd Gen i7 laptop, change the fan assm and new thermal past and all the heating issues vanished. Seems to be a common issue. Got the fan assm of aliexpress for about USD$12 delivered.

  • @foley2k2
    @foley2k2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Asus G75 VX has a charging circuit issue if you want to try something different. It's a huge gaming laptop that supports RAID and 32GB ram (4 ram slots), still usable. GPU is a GTX 670MX.

  • @TheIanrobot
    @TheIanrobot 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the exact same one, the fan seized up in mine, replaced it, now it sits ripping the families huge DVD library to my NAS

  • @JoakimKanon
    @JoakimKanon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bending plastic, good ol’ DV disassembly. 😭

  • @deriksteven
    @deriksteven 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please Keep Us Up to Speed regarding next laptop choice!?!! My 15 year old Thinkpad needs new thermal paste, & I’m researching next laptop prospects. It was nice timing! Thank you, cheers!