Polaris 800 Triple VS Polaris 850 Twin! Drag Race Of The Muscle Snowmobiles!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ม.ค. 2022
- What was supposed to be a shake down ride turns into full blown drag racing against a 2019 Polaris 850 Patriot.
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Love the sound of that triple! I bet that thing is an absolute blast!
It’s so much fun to ride! I love the sound too. I had to get one before they all disappear.
Take the blocks out
Needs a set of MBRP triple pipes into an MBRP race can maybe even triple stingers!
It's almost like a exotic sports car
The sound is
The Polaris triple will forever be my most favorite snowmobiles. I never owned one as they were very expensive when I was young. But I would see people on the trails with them and I got to ride one once and it was the coolest sled ever.
Now they are 1500$ go get one buddy,buy that dream.
Yeah I passed up a lot of them broken down on the side of the trails over the years with melted piston. 🤣
They were arguably the slowest of the 3 triple 800's and would get beat by an SRX. Either way, those triple triple sleds were sweet. Can't beat the sound
I got a 93’ xlt 580, it’s a pig but gets down.
The comparison kind of makes sense but the newer mountain sleds are geared alot different because theyre not made for top end
Mountain sleds the new ones are second to none but there’s many good old trail sleds that out new new sleds
stiffen the front track shock and soften the rear most shock. That should help with traction from a dig. If the extra 10 is a coupled skid, put the coupling block on the low setting as well (or remove them).
Great tip. Thank you.
Love to see it man. I bought my dads 99 xcr, just finished redoing all the bearings on the bogeys and rebuilding and recharging all the shocks. Machine is an absolute weapon. I've had it around the 120+ mph mark and it was still pulling hard, one of the only sleds im afraid of going full throttle
Some Fear:
Because if you ain’t afraid you ain’t going fast enough!👍
93 750, 94 800,2-96 800’s,I’ll have been ported and polished and tuned and clutched. My 93 750 WO and the big lake 500,in93 and 94. I built one for a friend in Minnesota for $7000 from throttle cable to pipes. He had to do his own clutches and adjustments to the suspension to try to keep the nose down. He said that everyone that rides it is scared to death of it because at any time you can give it more throttle and flip it over backwards, all the way up to 100 mph. Yes, bring it up to 100, pinch it to the bar, and it goes over backwards. It’s geared to do 165 but no one has taken it there😂🤣😂🤣 I scare people👍
120+ and still pulling hard. Hahahaha.
Get radar gun out. 120 lmao. Oh , klms u mean.
Sled isn't stock then , Factory specs says 102 top speed ! Better get a radar gun , speedo is fibbing !
I've had several of the xcr 600 , its a 100 mile mph sled
@@angusbeef524Ya no that didn't happen fan boy. Used to be the Drafter Designer that produced clutches for Polaris and your living in a dream world. The power to weight ratio and physics simply won't allow it period.
Have a 580cc XLT love the torque/sound of the little triple.
Awsome fun guys .. too short if lugged track always spinning or loosing traction the whole time your running across the lake we added heavier lugged track to help .. to start
Loosen limiters and soften the rear arm if it's got dial adjust (which it should) that would help immensely with traction
Love the triple! Started with my 500 3 holer back in the 80's but the 800 xcr of the late 90's was as bad ass as any!
Those triples are beasts! Enjoy but be careful thru the woods, ya never know what’s under the snow when you’re off trail!
Fun article!!! The stock rental triple I rode for a weekend in the mid to late 90's was not a mountain sled. It did not have an extended track, and it had standard (?) length cleats (they were shorter than the ones on your sled). Wish I could remember its displacement. It had throttle lag off the line, which doesn't sound like the track spin you described on yours. It accelerated well from about 5 or 10 mph up to its top end of around 112 per its speedometer. Our crude 0 - 60 time measurements (per its speedometer) were around 5.2 seconds. Maybe it didn't accelerate faster than current sleds but it sure sounded better, and opening the hood to see three of everything including expansion chambers, was and still is certainly cooler than anything else. Thanks for posting this.
Opening the hood is the best feeling ever!
@@FeederCountry Yes, and it reminds you why it sounds different than the twins.
I still remember back in the day when those modded storms would twist the crank off at the clutch. Hell yeah!!!
From a rolling start the Storm actually held its own very well. Can't wait to see how it performs once you doctor it a bit.
Thanks man. I’m going out this weekend to make some changes to the rear. Hoping to find a lot of traction.
Held its own, naahhhh, it straight up whooped the 850's ass! And wait till its restored to its original full potential
@@romper4444 it definitely didn’t. The 850 is lighter and more power. There’s a reason Triples aren’t made anymore
@@tylerseabook9423 They aren't made anymore because manufacturers basically all stopped making 2 stroke sleds. Triples make tons of power when they are set up properly. A 700 or 800 triple will still whoop a lot of new sleds. The main thing new sleds have over older ones is much better suspension.
@@89JDmac the fact you think manufacturers stopped making two strokes shows how clueless you are. polaris skidoo ONLY make two strokes right up to this date right now. Which makes everything you said moot. 🤦♂️ in fact the only snowmobile brand that makes a four stroke is Yamaha and they don’t even compete with the two strokes as far as any mountain sleds. I really don’t even understand how what you said makes sense to yourself 🤦♂️
we have a all stock 96 storm with like factory miles on it + like 10-34 miles my god it rips but a little bit of advice is start around right about 5000 rpms or until it is about to move so you get less of a slip but ours seems to be a custom order straight from the factory because ive never seen a storm go through 4 feet of snow up a steep hill no prob and it shows 0 work done to it which is kinda weird but we got ours for a few hundred and it had all the parts to it and it just sat on our car lift with all the others untill one year we started it up for the first time in who knows and it sounded mean but the only issue we had was the pull cord system was dry as a bone and started locking but it was a 20 minute fix with some lube and it took off like a rocket, just absolute fun
Big thing we do in the Midwest is stud the tracks, we run a lot on ice don’t know what the set up for drags is out there
Love it ! Where's thus recorded at
Having long-term experience with 2-stroke triple engines(Kawasaki motorcycles from '69 through 1978 model years), the Polaris triple is a bada$$ machine!
01 800 xcr I’ve been recently blessed with has a 136” M 10 with studs everywhere! 244 a1.25 track and it launches incredibly hard and flat. Traction is not an issue. Top end seems hindered by the suspension but is north of 115.
It has been modded but reliably. I think the ride quality of the M10 offsets and losses in top end.
What a impressive old sled that looks amazing.
Are you going by GPS or speedo?
Sorry speedo only, @@roycemccarthy5771
Find a set of SLP triple pipes for it and throw the stock ones away. Shaves some weight and makes quite a bit more power. Someone else also mentioned an R12 helix, that is a good change.
Nice vid brother 🤙
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Only a 22 year difference... Impressed with the old triple vs. a (bigger) modern 850 liberty engine. Get a new belt and check your compression, will make a heck of a difference. Run nothing under 91 octane. Higher engagement spring and team secondary would do wonders. The aggressive chassis is impressively good in deep snow... like a boat.
Twins have a lot more up front torque than triples, especially with the exhaust valves. That's why they don't make triples anymore. I see this on bikes as well. I have an Africa Twin 1000cc and ride with a Tiger 1200cc triple a lot. While the Tiger is smoother and 30-40HP more than my twin, up to about 100MPH they're about the same. The higher RPM on the triple though gives it longer legs up top.
Great comment. Thanks for adding to the convo.
the old storms had a lot of potential. heavy chassis, poor clutching, tall gearing,short lug track, over jetted.... v force reeds, ufo's in the carbs, r12 helix and silver blue secondary spring, hacksaw tracked studded up, 222-40 or even 20-40 in chain case for tighter trails, shorter drags, spend time on rear skid for good launch.
the old storm engine in mod form will make more hp than a pure motor mod 850.
cant deny the new chassis are amazing and efficient but somehow the old ones got stuff done. 100+ lbs heavier and 25 hp less.
when the modern sled is big paddle and geared low and still spanks this pile XD TRIPLES ARE BOOMER GARBAGE
With all due respect your Youth and ignorance is showing.
@@3DProductions There's no garbage in any 800 triple Polaris. One day, you're gonna find out
Growing up a guy in town had a 750 Storm with a 900 HTG topend. It would hit 137mph in 600' on the radar gun. Only good for about 25 runs before he had to re ring it.
I used to ride a Yamaha 750 triple road bike. I could smoke some 1000s at low end. Rode rough at about 65 though
Hey try some good track studs there are fantastic ones for the Lake pulls ..good Luck Muskoka Dave....Cheers guys....
Find some slp or jawz triple pipes, vforce 3 reeds, and throw a 144 or 151 track under it, gut the air box or run pods. It has alottt of head room, oh and get a chrome windshield....
In my experience with my 97 ultra spx against my bosses 2019 850 xc. In a straight line on a short straight, my skis are about right on his back bumper. The 850 just gets out of the whole a lot better. Snow conditions were crap tho
Them trips can sing!!! Braaaaaaaaap
Very good video
Old Storm just fackin' rippin' ! Get some!
I have an old 95 Polaris indy 500 efi that used to absolutely rip, I lived by a rural airport that I would go open it up on and I could do a steady 115mph in the right snow conditions, those old sleds were fun
I have a 94 Indy EFI that I need to introduce to the channel.
@@FeederCountry yeah you should I remember that thing out running 700cc carborated sleds of the same era, I remember it being pretty rowdy, I probably only weighed 70 lbs back then haha
First, the speedo was way off on those old Indy's.
Second, no you didn't. I had mine on the lake on a fresh rebuild and it took miles to hit 90mph by gps. It was well over 100 on the dash.
Liar 500 anything never came close to 115. Not even if your track was spinning did your speedo or any timing device said 115 good one !!
@@brianloeffler2245 it said what it said I have no reason to lie....you seem really triggered though you should probably work on that 😂
Had the same storm, take the back blocks oot of the suspension
I have a recipe for 275 hp for that sled. Relatively stock parts....ish😉.
I have one that will pull 147 mph on water
and!!!I got Brad Wursten’s recipe!!The best way to build that is to get a hold of him and get the head and the stater system FROM HIM ONLY!!
325hp on pump gas with no boost👀👀👀 1200cc with stock parts👍1500cc with big bore
Big triple! Possible 1640 cc
Do it bro😎 do it for your TH-cam fans🙈🙉🙊
I haven’t talked to him in 11 years or so, but he’s a two thumbs up awesome personality
I’ve got four storms, all different years
Beautiful area
Sweet!
That storm Is wicked fast
I have a stormy you can get a lot off power just from jetting and needle clip position stock their real rich and you can gain a lot of traction by adjusting limiter straps and you will smoke that other sled.ohh you want that clutch to grab at 3800 and stop reading around 8200. With that set up on myn I run a comet 108-4 pro clutch and im pushing little over 150hp
3:14 I'll take the ''discount'' sled, thats sweet haha
I wanna find one of these one day 😎
To many variables what do you want from the sled as many have found out there is only one no in-between either it's a trail sled ice drag drag sled or hill
The storm didn’t fuck around back in the 90’s and it still doesn’t!
White with black spring for your primary.19 tooth on top for gear and tire your front suspension up as hi as it will go.really you can loosing up the limiter straps two notches.Hang on just them things will pull hard.try standing up and push down hard with your legs when leaving also.
I've dragged a yamaha nytro 144 a polaris switchback 800 144 and a xcr 800 121 o glare ice no snow. All studded. No one could catch the xcr if it hooked up good
Long tracks with big lugs hook up great but are great horsepower robbers at top end.
Crazy that these sleds aren’t much different in terms of flat out speed
What ??? What does that even mean ?
@@stevelamperta865 it’s means what i said. As fare as speed goes there’s no difference…. That 800 triple was made made 20 years ago .. new sleds are over rated and over priced.
Don’t get me wrong new sleds have changed many things and has technology that has made leaps and bounds. You can just as much fun on a old sled as you can new. Over rated over priced
That thing would be a beast with a set of triple pipes with stingers
Damn that looks fun
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I would put it back to a 121 or even a 133 if your gonna ride it mostly on packed snow like that and ice I would run a 1” or 1 and 3/8 ripsaw with 200 studs or so
Stud it up!!!
Toss in some v force reeds to help clean up that low and mid range!
Fun video, dude! Imagine the 850 was geared for speed. It would destroy the 800. Loved watching this!
Yeah these mtn sleds are all about acceleration. A trail sled 850 would could go across the lake and back before I got to one side.
WAY back in 1983 I had a Yamaha SRV. I had it ported, put dual carbs, power reeds, AAEN pipes, head shaved, clutch work, studded, geared. I had a buddy with the O.P.P. who radar checked my speed at 122 mph. It was a rocket. But absolutely useless anywhere except hard-pack surface. Great project but no usability. Sold it. No regrets.
Track spin on ice. Suspention tune? Lmao
Man the snow is just shit right now, need a storm with a big dump bad.
My son has a number of snowmobiles, and when he got a '99 Mach Z 800 triple, he then let me always ride his '97 Storm 800 triple. Yet the Storm never let me down for the past 3 winters, and sadly the Mach Z had issues and blew the motor last winter. I love riding that Storm.
Thanks for sharing. Enjoy those machines. Especially the storm!!! It’s a fun sled and sounds great. Triples forever!
@@FeederCountry I really love riding the Storm on our smoothly groomed snowmobile trails. We didn't have much snow during the beginning of last winter, but we still managed to ride the trail to Paint Lake. The ice was already thick and smooth, with only about 5 inches of snow on it, So it was fun ripping around Paint Lake well over 100 mph.
@@00AngelDog00 that’s awesome! I rode mine on a lake and also hit over 100mph. So much fun. Where is home for you?
@@FeederCountry Thompson, it's in the middle of the northern half of Manitoba, Canada. So we do get a lot of snow, and yet this past winter, the southern Manitoba barely had any snow, so snowmobilers down there were quite sad. Plus Manitoba has 100,000 lakes, so we are crossing a number of lakes with our snowmobiles. And this past winter we were having some mild weather now and then, so we were hitting a lot of slush on some of the lakes. But the Storm can ride over slush no problem.
@@00AngelDog00 sounds like a great place to live in ride. I live in Lake Tahoe. We had a slightly below average winter with around 400 inches at 8,000ft.
00-02 XCR800 would be a much different story!
Them Polaris Storms my favorite sled, They will still walk these new sled's and sound so much better, if you know what your doing
Byron always said...3 in a row makes em' go. Cheers.
THING badass!!
Had a 600 xcr it would definitely run with the 700 twins and a 650 triples usually in front good sleds those aggressors are
Sounds like you had a real ripper 🤘
they seem to be pretty evenly matched on the rolling start. pretty impressive for a twin! little bit of tweaking you will have him though
That’s what I’m thinking too
if that twin was geared and tracked for a drag race this triple would have to limp straight to the landfill in embarassment lol
What about the XCR 800 the last triple Fuji with the pipes on it from the factory very fast on the trail very fast across the lake. I have an 800 twin with starting line pipes and a big airbox. I’m pretty sure that’s about 150 hp, but I think the Fuji motors were 175 stock and they were ripped you should have one of them. I think they were less weight than the storm heavyweight sled.
I would love to get my hands on a xcr 800 gen 2. They are so rare where I live. I never seen one in person before.
New track and new plastic skis will help a lot
That thing sounds hard bro. I build storms, got a pile of them. I scare people😃
Find out what jets you have in the carbs.you probably can go down alot to make your throttle way more responsive.i used to build and race Polaris just to beat the ski doo hahaha
I love my T-Cat 900 tripple, tripple.
Clappin cheeks 😂 👏🏻 👏🏻
😂
Tripple on top!
Cool video but it’s a bit of an apple to oranges comparison. Also studding the track will do more for hook up than messing with the suspension.
The storm does not sound normal. Had it been overheated due to water pump impeller bolt loossening up? I had a 94 storm and sounded completely different. 80 mph is where the power starts to really hit.
Water impeller bolt was secured. She did blow up right after this video. I have the blow up report in a video on my page.
Get either a 98 xcr800 or a 02 fastest ones!
They do idle fast warming up due to a lean condition. Once warmed They idle down
gotta get that paddle track off there and go with a 1 inch tall wiper track... the track you have your loosing a lot of speed... easpecaily on that hard pack that is why your spinning try 144 1 1/4 inch studs ... carbs need adjusting clutches need adjusting sounds like its a little boggy....
Stud your track😎
Just tune that thing up a little bit. It will run good. Studs and alittle clutch work. Always needed that when they were new.
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I'd love to see one of all the 90s triples coming together to see who did the best I would love to see how the
⚡ Thundercat fared.
Me too! That would be an awesome video
Get you an inch and a quarter ripsaw track. Loosen that front limiter strap one notch and take er from there.
So a Kaos is a mountain sled. There is a big difference between mountain sled and trail sled. If you threw a trail clutch and a trail track on that Kaos, it wouldn't be as near close as it was. Or just get a 850 Indy and you would only ever see the back end of that.
Lift the needle jets for dragging and run on pilots and mains.
Badass
yeah buddy!
I remember when those triples first came out, those things hurt more guys than mike tyson. Don’t see many of them left anymore around here anyways.
At idle it is not firing on all 3 cyclinders. You can hear it on the bottom it isn't all 3.
That's the way they sound
Yep, I just did a top end rebuild on my 97 storm as well as fuel pumps carbs and new coils and it is a beast.
@true level believer I believe it. I did one for a customer. Slp triple pipes. 3 port ego's and 3 Lectron carbstriple!! Clutched She peeks at 9500 rpm. When it hooks up with 270 some odd studs it rips!! Great lake sled but handling is noting like today's sleds but its a tripple!!
I had an '03 800 XCR. Best sled I ever had. A MONSTER!! Some mods to suspension, and it hooked pretty well. Tremendous top end. Could pull the skis at 50mph!!! So what did I do? Sold it......SHIT!!! You can't fix STUPID!!!!!!!
That Storm should eat the Khaos alive in the top end department, the gear ratio to spin that huge track probably accounts for a couple mph loss over a shorter track machine.
Totally needs clutch work! Just that and a step on the top gear would make a huge difference
To shallow a helix angel to pull the 850.. You want a 52, 36 helix..but again depends on your elevation. Stock was 44/32 on 800 Storm RMK. Looks like your geared stock also 18/39 or 19/39 maybe I can't Quite remember... Spinning more them moving forward sucks. Use in the East used to gear them 22/35 and put 1inch tracks on them. We'd see a true 127 mph on a lakes. With 297 studs. Wouldn't pull ya outa the hole but man that Top speed :)
kaso is Geared for a max top speed of 92 mph at 8000 rpms. You Won't beat the kaso outa the hole. It's over distance that the old Triples where awesome. The Old storm only had 77ftlbt vs 850 over 100ftlbt
oh boy, she's a real beaut!
The triple looks like it just pulls away from the twin at top end but the twin hooks up better. Probably because it's a newer sled and has better suspension
If you want to try a 99 xcr 800 . It will walk all over that storm . My buddy has one for sale .
Sure. Bring it to tahoe and I’ll buy it!
Back pack looks so cool. Must be there avalanche kit. Smh
Should have name the vid: “Which Sled Sounds Better At Full Cry?”
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Not even a question! 🤟
I have a 97 Indy storm 800 triple and it's the fastest thing I've ever Ben on it's scary fast
Was the dude on the khaos checking his temp?!
We run them till the computer shuts them down. 15 min cool off. And then back at it. 😂 jk jk. We always be checking temps.
I would up the idle to 1800 or 2000 then they don't load up as bad much snappier.
It just dont transfer its weight. I have done 103 MPH radar on an ice track with one of those. My friend went 108 MPH with a V-MAX4. That day, the winner was an AC ZRT 900 at 111 MPH.
Hell yeah. They all sound fast!
Lol. Mountain sled racing on a lake. How many lugs did you lose?
The one
That storm ain't hooking too good is it
No it was not. Trying to ride on ice without studs is hard
@@FeederCountry oh boi. I bet if you had studs you woulda dusted em
Rolling start keeps up/beats new machines...
SHE RIIPPPSSS