@@pe7eWow! I heard that TLC had a different member before Chili, but had no idea of the extent of the backstory. Crystal is smart and TLC’s story is a great example of the importance of reading your record deals before signing for major labels and it’s better to be independent.
Yep that's why they never tried to replace her for that reason. Impossible to replace that magic.. There is not really a TLC without either one. I miss Lisa so much :(
They were over it when they showed to the MTV awards later that year! Compounding with them STILL having to push an album that was about to come out...that they DIDNT want to do!
Having Mindless Behavior, Jacob Latimore, Diggy Simmons and the OMG girlz was such a era 😭 the last of a era at that! So glad I got to experience that ❤️
TLC did NOT have a temporary stand in anything. They said the girl would be on ONE song on their greatest hits album and that’s what they did. She was on ONE song and we never heard from her again after One performance on the finale of the show… you should’ve talked about Crystal being replaced. She was theee original member of TLC
I don’t understand why TLC is in this when they let be known from the jump that “R U The Girl” was a FAN opportunity.. nothing more, nothing less. . they also let it be known during the promotion of the show. The scenario isn’t the same as the others . “3D” was also a platinum selling album.
Ik one comment doesn’t mean much, but keep up the content please! Your videos really give us a glimpse into a lost time period. We all appreciate your effort!
@timekademery She's doing fine. She has a family now. But unfortunately she doesn't want to talk about her past at all and she blocks anyone on Instagram that mentions 3LW.
Oso’Krispise. I forgot about her. I remember when that TLC show came out I’m like are they replacing Left Eye???? They said they didn’t but watching it and in school we felt that way
Mirrah (the runner up) should've won but when they were taking pics with T-Boz and Chilli in the finale, they messed up and put a wig on her that gave her an uncanny resemblance to Lisa!
The only time I ever saw Jessica in 3LW was in the Southpole clothing advertisements they used to have in Teen People and Vibe magazines. Those were the days!!!! I wish the group lasted longer. That debut album plus them guest starring on Taina was EVERYTHING!!!
She did a soul train performance with them singing This Goes Out, Lady of Soul Awards performance and she did one song “Feelin You” there’s a video, she’s in O’Ryan’s video too
Destiny’s Child line up change pissed me off the most. I think it’s because of the way they went about it. I’ll never forget coming home from school, exited to see the Say my Name video premiere and here comes Michelle and Farrah on my damn screen 😂
I think the first time I actually ever saw Destiny's Child, Michelle was already part of the group. I think the first video I saw of their's was Independent Women Part 1.
I think they were put in a position to do that. They weren't thinking of actually replacing Lisa with anyone different, they went along, was admired by the one girl who probably reminded them of Lisa's personality and then kept to themselves as just Tboz and Chilli
All the OG members (Sisqo, Jazz, and Nokio) are back besides Woody. The others are Scola who joined the group on their 3rd album when they had 5 members, Tao who replaced Scola after he left & was with the group for years but has recently left to be in another band, and Black & Smoke from the 90's group Playa who joined when Nokio, Jazz, and Tao had left for a brief time.
You could do this whole video on the UK band Sugababes. Literally replaced every original member till the OGs reformed and had to go to court to get the name THEY CAME UP WITH back
TLC did not replace Left-Eye in no way, shape, or form. the purpose of that show 'R U The Girl?' was to have someone experience what it was like to perform with TLC, and have a song with them on their Greatest Hits Album. O’so Krispie was never brought in to replace Lisa, or become a member in TLC. neither was she a “temporary standing member.” you should’ve used the original member Crystal as an example since she was replaced by Chilli before TLC even came out. T-Boz and Chilli ALWAYS made it clear since the death of Left-Eye that she will never be replaced, and they stuck by that to this day. they had girls perform with them over the years like, Lil’ Mama, Latto and O’so Krispie, but it was never to replace Left-Eye at all.
Good evening: We missed you guys...!! I click so fast when I got the notification. Lingere what a name. I totally forgot about Pretty Ricky switch up. I never heard of R U the Girl, till watching this video. That name is 😂😂 O' Sokrispe
T-Boz & Chilli always made sure to never replace Left Eye & they stuck to their word on that. The show R U the Girl was them doing a competition to find a girl that can rap, sing & dance & the winner would do a song with them on the finale & receive a recording contract & that was it. So that song they did w/ O So Krispie was nothing more than a feature if anything, because we didn’t see her anymore after that. And the whole R U the Girl show was their managers idea & they wasn’t for the idea of replacing Left Eye or giving the public the idea that they were, that is why they changed the format to the winner just doing one song & getting a recording contract. T-Boz & Chilli discussed this so many times. So them having a “fill in” is a reach.
Another notable group to have a personnel change is The Supremes, It's so famous, in fact, it inspired a musical. You may have heard of it. It's called "Dreamgirls." It's also quite interesting that their story is parallel to Destiny's Child. The Supremes started out as the Primettes, the sister group to the Primes whose members would go on to create The Temptations. They had four members - co-founders Florence Ballard and Mary Wilson, Diane (her birth name) Ross, and Betty McGlown. Betty McGlown left the group to get married and Barbara Martin replaced her. After initial rejection due to being too young in 1959, Berry Gordy signed them to his fledging label Tamla Records which later became known as Motown Records, in 1961. By that year, they were either in their last year of high school or already graduated. He also demanded a name change. Ballard chose "The Supremes" after not liking the names Gordy provided. Their early years saw minimal commercial success, and Martin left the group to start a family. The group would remain a trio until the group's official disbandment. Until 1964, Ballard, Ross, and Wells all shared lead vocals. Gordy changed that and made Diane - who began going by Diana by 1965 - the primary singer. He felt her light timber had more crossover appeal. Ballard, considered to have the strongest voice of the group members, did not appreciate this. Wells and Ballard still performed leads on album tracks and Ballard performed her signature song "People" from the musical Funny Girl live. However, Gordy's favoritism of Ross led to growing resentment not only within The Supremes but also among other Motown acts. Things started to go sour in 1967. Gordy officially changed the group's name to Diana Ross and The Supremes. This would spark rumors of Diana being groomed for a solo career. Gordy brought in Barbara Randolph as a prospective new lead singer. She eventually acted as Florence Ballard's first replacement when Ballard's personal problems impacted her appearances at live performances. Ross was not a fan of Randolph and that led to Gordy signing Cindy Birdsong as Ballard's official replacement that same year. At the time, Birdsong was still in contract with Patti LaBelle and the Blue Belles, so she was technically on a probationary period until Gordy could buy out her contract. Florence had not been officially fired; Gordy encouraged her to quit. However, after an embarrassing showing at the Flaming Hotel, Gordy fired Ballard and officially replaced her with Birdsong (who he had been secretly bringing to gigs unbeknownst to Ballard). On a side note, the Flamingo Hotel fallout is dramatized in Dreamgirls at the end of Act I, the musical's most famous number: "It's All Over/And I Am Telling You." Florence Ballard sadly passed away in 1976 from a heart attack and in financial ruin amid a comeback. Before her passing, she reconciled with Ross and Wilson. Effie White, loosely based on Ballard, was intended to meet the same fate as her real-life inspiration. Jennifer Holiday, the originator of the role on Broadway, successfully fought to change this ending. Motown announced in 1969 that Diane would go solo by the end of the year. By this time, the group's success had declined due to changing musical tastes, their primary songwriters Holland-Dozier-Holland leaving Motown acrimoniously., and in-group tension. Her final single with the Supremes, "Someday We'll Be Together" was released that year becoming the group's 12th and final #1 single on the Billboard Hot 100 and the last #1 single of the 1960s. Funnily enough, this single was intended to be Ross' first solo single as Birdsong and Wilson did not appear on the track (instead, Ross' first solo single would be "Reach Out and Touch Somebody's Hand" which would go on to be a top 40 hit on the Hot 100). Their lack of appearance on several Supremes singles was common at the time given the tension at the time. Syreeta Wright, label mate Stevie Wonder's wife (at the time) and songwriting partner, was the first considered replacement for Ross. When that didn't work, Jeanne Terrell was brought in. Gordy, according to Mary Wilson, also officially washed his hands of the group and focused on Ross' career (with whom he was having an affair, and that affair led to the birth of a child in 1971). The change in personnel led to the group reverting back to its old name The Supremes. Their first single post-Ross, "Up The Ladder To The Roof", was a top ten hit on the Billboard Hot 100. They would release lukewarm singles throughout the 1970s - "Stone Cold Love" being their last R&B #1 hit and top 10 Hot 100 hit - and experience more member changes. Birdsong left the group in 1972 and Lynda Laurence, Stevie Wonder's background vocalist, replaced her. Jeanne Terrell left due to being fed up with low success and lack of promotion and Scherrie Payne replaced her in 1973. Laurence would also leave that same year and Birdsong would return. in 1967, Birdsong left for the final time and Susaye Greene replaced her. By 1977, Mary Wilson,, the longest-tenured member and last remaining original member, had had enough and left the group. Seeing as there were no original members, Motown officially disbanded the group that same year. Today Diana Ross, Susaye Greene, Cindy Birdsong, Scherrie Payne, and Jeanne Terrell are the last surviving members of The Supremes, with Ross being the sole original member left.
I used to love me some Destiny Child baby 💕 I was heart broken 💔 when Latavia and Letoya were replaced Letoya was always my fav and the prettiest too me. Then I felt so bad for them b/c they didn’t even know they were fired. It took a big toll on their lives as well. Latavia spoke about forming addiction from depression they were so young I know it hurt them badly. Then Farrah came and then she left also. I said everyone else isn’t the problem idc what yall say I think Matthew Knowles was the reason also like Wendy Williams said Beyoncé and the girls.
@@janemaxhopper2846Farrah wasn't even in the group long and it seemed to impact her too. I knew he nust have been the common denominator when that girl group he managed post DC talked about him being messy, domineering etc
Pretty Ricky could’ve been even bigger . I remember I had their first album on my cd player lol I miss those days I was too young to be listening but still 😂
3LW the girl Kiley who’s family started the group did Naturi but god has the last word. She is a A list celebrity honey and the girl with the lisp bullied her b/c she was with her family and Naturi was alone. You know lisp was wrong b/c Adrienne apologized for what they did too her on that show The Real
I'm no rozanda aka wad not the original. She was a replacement from another girl name crystal Jones In I guess the they have to choose nick names for the group for chili as it should've been trl ... funny huh .
The British R&B girl group Eternal were infamously down a member for every studio album they released in the 1990's! Sisters Easther & Vernie Bennett have recently reformed and made a return of sorts this year with a new member Christel Lakhdar! xo
@@itsjemmabonddidn't mis-teeq and all saints do that too I remember other uk girl groups like cleopatra, kleshay and the honeyz kept replacing members??.
I get such nostalgia from the tlc reality show clip.. lol i was in high school at the time and loved that show. I remember recording the finally! Lol 😂
If u can say that, then I can say the Supreme's are the reason for all of these girl groups, and I'm sure there were plenty of others before the Supreme's😊.
I get what you mean when 🫶🏾💯and your absolutely right although as we all know their have been other female groups that paved the way, En Vogue definitely set the tone for their style, music, and talent all of them original members could SANG and they indeed was the pioneer for that style of R&B female girl groups
@@timekademery clearly you are to incompetent for this conversation. The supremes had one lead singer. Groups were a thing but not as big as they were after En Vogue came out they really set the standard for what a girl group is suppose to be. All 4 women can sing no can lead and while doing so remain in harmony when someone else takes the lead. It was more interesting to watch then watching one person singing and the other lip syncing. NOW GO SIT DOWN IN A HIGH CHAIR
Tboz and Chilli never replaced lefteye because they keep theirs group legendary more alive forever but I’ve glad they choosing lil mama cause she played Lisa’s character on theirs biopic as well and helped the group of saved.
Okay, I know a lot of y’all don’t like Kiely, but 3LW was a great group. Kiely definitely added something to the group. She can dance and she has a nice tone to her voice. She may not be a powerhouse vocalist, but her voice is nice.
3LW will always be the most trifling way it ended. That group had the potential to represent something bigger than just fame and fortune. They all looked beautiful but man the colorism, pettiness, opportunistic, and nepotism showed how that type of representation was something they werent ready to carry. The management were in it for the profit only.
I wonder if Mickey left because of mess too. Then again IDK if I want to be part of a group where a family member is a manager unless they know how to actually be impartial
When I saw TLC, I was expecting you to mention Crystal. O So Krispie was NOT a shameless replacement, but I see these comments are allll lighting you up for this already 😅.
Actually 3LW first performance with Jessica Benson was on an episode of Soul Train that aired in March of 2003. That was the last time I ever saw them perform with her on national television and didn't know they were still active after 2003. That's how bad their popularity went down. Jessica unfortunately didn't benefit much from her time with 3LW. Kiely is the common denominator behind 3LW/Cheetah Girls break up. The problem with her is she feels like she's the Beyonce of 3LW/Cheetah Girls. She threw chicken in Naturi face, acted jealous of Raven, she leaked naked photos of Adrienne on the Internet and there were rumors she allegedly started some drama with Jessica Benson behind the scenes. I believe it because that explains why Jessica blocks people on Instagram if they bring up 3LW. Jessica and Naturi are two dark skin women that got screwed in 3LW
@@kerrionswaby1449 right Adrienne leaked her own nudes but everything else said here is true. Kiely was the WORST and its interesting considering she was the least talented in each group
Well she was the youngest and act like with extra bits of spoiled mixed in which she has admitted. Her sister who raised her spoiled her. She really does need to apologize
702 is another i think it from 4 sisters to 2 and then added a 3rd member similar story as 3LW. Speaking of them Kiely wasnt cast original in Cheetah Girls it was Solange. Sabrina Bryan talked about it in a podcast
I knew of all these except for Krispy...man when was that?! Lol shes really cute though i see why they chose her! She actually sounda like lil mama's impression of Left Eye. Jessica was a good replacement tbh she was fiiinnee. Adrienne was fine as well, but wow i wonder where all these people are today
Mindless Behavior had a lot of potential but they fucked it up when Prodigy felt soooo maltreated to the point that all hell broke loose and Ray talking shit about Lauryn Hill in an uncalled for light. Ewww. Sorry. Karma be knocking on your door for shittalking on women. Them young'uns be ungrateful
Never knew OMG girls were all the daughters of the r&b moms and even went on tour with them, that's honestly really sweet lol. They all look like they are friends too so that's cool.
TLC. I forgot the person’s name, but I remember she got replaced by Chili. I hope the person is doing well for herself.
Crystal
Crystal
Thank you. I remember watching a video of band members being replaced pre-fame.
Crystal Jones, TLC was originally her group but Pebbles kicked her out because she wanted to get a separate lawyer to look at the contract.
@@pe7eWow! I heard that TLC had a different member before Chili, but had no idea of the extent of the backstory. Crystal is smart and TLC’s story is a great example of the importance of reading your record deals before signing for major labels and it’s better to be independent.
I feel so bad for Jessica, her time in 3LW was such a waste
I blame management
Yup and she blocks anyone on Instagram that mentions 3LW now.
@@all_that_ishThat is HILARIOUS😂. But I understand. I truly hope she is doing well.
@@all_that_ishwhat’s her ig name? That’s silly on her part though.
@@all_that_ishlol. That's childish 😂
Left eye was irreplaceable. The group was over after her passing.
Basically 🫠😞
Yep that's why they never tried to replace her for that reason. Impossible to replace that magic.. There is not really a TLC without either one. I miss Lisa so much :(
They were over it when they showed to the MTV awards later that year! Compounding with them STILL having to push an album that was about to come out...that they DIDNT want to do!
@@tokyoinooshi4836 So sad her passing at a very young age. RIP: Lisa-Left Eye-Lopez
She wasn't replaced.
When that Crispy woman started shrieking, I meant "rapping", I had to mute the video for a while 🙉
I thought I was the only one thinking the same thing!
It was cringe 😬
I just paused it because of her "rapping" and came to comments to see if I wasn't alone. Glad to see I'm not!
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought this. 🤭
BFTV you’re one of my favorite content creators.
Having Mindless Behavior, Jacob Latimore, Diggy Simmons and the OMG girlz was such a era 😭 the last of a era at that! So glad I got to experience that ❤️
Sameeeee!! Ughh they had me in a chokehold in middle school. 🥹😩
they all had good music 😭
Too fucking real😭
Maaaannnn, such a fun time to experience
FR! You just had to be there! 💯❤️
TLC did NOT have a temporary stand in anything. They said the girl would be on ONE song on their greatest hits album and that’s what they did. She was on ONE song and we never heard from her again after One performance on the finale of the show… you should’ve talked about Crystal being replaced. She was theee original member of TLC
Yeah, exactly
I forgot about Crystal, the Original C of TLC
And founder!
@@Yocyndie Wow, that's crazy to be kicked out of her own group
That’s EXACTLY what I was about to type!
I don’t understand why TLC is in this when they let be known from the jump that “R U The Girl” was a FAN opportunity.. nothing more, nothing less. . they also let it be known during the promotion of the show.
The scenario isn’t the same as the others . “3D” was also a platinum selling album.
Right, they should have mentioned Crystal the original C in TLC and the founder of the group.
Watch the whole section
@@sun8693 I did.
I was confused when they were brought up. But then I thought it was going to be about Crystal being replaced with Chili. Lol
Exactly!
I love that SWV has always stood by that they’ll NEVER replace an original member. Even in all Xscape’s mess,they haven’t either
Xscape has. They replaced Kandi for a short period of time
That's likely due to contractual agreements rather than any altruism.
Yeah ,Xscape did replace Kandi for a little bit. Her name was Keisha Miles I think.
Keisha Miles was Kandi’s replacement when Xscape tried to make a comeback back in 2005.
@@dariusmcnair601they are not sisters did you ever watch TV one Unsung on them?
The real Pretty Ricky fans only acknowledge them first 2 albums lol
They have more than 2 albums?
Not your grammar
And do! lol they all that matters😂 especially late night special 😂😂
@@jadedaejanae Late Night Special was DOPE but Bluestar is a true work of art Static Major was the 5th member of PrettyRicky
@@JadeToBeautiful I can’t lie you’re absolutely right!!! lol I honestly was like “do I really mean that fr?” 🤣🤣 LOVE your name by the way ❤️
Ik one comment doesn’t mean much, but keep up the content please! Your videos really give us a glimpse into a lost time period. We all appreciate your effort!
Ikr I love this channel for us 😊
Agreed🏆💐
So much!
The 3LW story makes me feel some type of way... like they could have included her in cheetah girls as well.
Right like wth was that about.
I wonder how Jessica is doing now.
They couldn’t have too many black people😂
@timekademery She's doing fine. She has a family now. But unfortunately she doesn't want to talk about her past at all and she blocks anyone on Instagram that mentions 3LW.
They were going to in the sitcom but it never took off so they had no way to properly introduce her.
Mindless behavior was MY LIFE you hear me?!🤣😭
Wow being apart of the Mindless Behavior Era is a gift. That was a time!
This MF name was Lingerie lmaoooooo
😂😂😭
and was dead serious too LMAOOOO
Oso’Krispise. I forgot about her. I remember when that TLC show came out I’m like are they replacing Left Eye???? They said they didn’t but watching it and in school we felt that way
I remember thinking the girl’s name was SO corny. O’So Krispie 🤣
Yep. I remember this show and when they picked her
Mirrah (the runner up) should've won but when they were taking pics with T-Boz and Chilli in the finale, they messed up and put a wig on her that gave her an uncanny resemblance to Lisa!
The only time I ever saw Jessica in 3LW was in the Southpole clothing advertisements they used to have in Teen People and Vibe magazines. Those were the days!!!! I wish the group lasted longer. That debut album plus them guest starring on Taina was EVERYTHING!!!
3LW second album was everything too.People just looked over it because of the drama at the time.
She did a soul train performance with them singing This Goes Out, Lady of Soul Awards performance and she did one song “Feelin You” there’s a video, she’s in O’Ryan’s video too
I think she was in a music video or 2 if i remember correctly
@@dnb200 I remember that Soul Train episode in 2003. That was the last time I saw them perform with Jessica on national television.
it was better than the first vocally and more mature not cookie cutter I think some fans didn't like the sexy image.
The only thing that needed replacement in 3LW was that damn lisp, Kiely was the worst part of all of their songs 😂
💯
"Growing tired of your broken promithes promithes" im sorry i just had to do it 😂😂😂
Chris Brown 😩😂
Kiely was a great dancer.
Same with the Cheetah Girls😭
Destiny’s Child line up change pissed me off the most. I think it’s because of the way they went about it. I’ll never forget coming home from school, exited to see the Say my Name video premiere and here comes Michelle and Farrah on my damn screen 😂
Me too!!! Letoya Luckett is still my favorite DC member.
MTV world premiere of say my name was heartbreaking 💔 😂
Lmao yea DC had a messy line up change. Also if you watch early clips Michelle & Farrah only got to say their names in interviews. It was so awkward 😂
I’m dead 😭
I think the first time I actually ever saw Destiny's Child, Michelle was already part of the group. I think the first video I saw of their's was Independent Women Part 1.
In pretty Ricky only Spectacular and Baby Blue are brothers. Slick em is their cousin and Pleasure P isn’t related to them at all.
TLC didn't "shamelessly" replace Left Eye, she died 😬. However, Crystal was booted out of her group and replaced with Chili😮
I think they were put in a position to do that. They weren't thinking of actually replacing Lisa with anyone different, they went along, was admired by the one girl who probably reminded them of Lisa's personality and then kept to themselves as just Tboz and Chilli
Exactly!
I’ll never look at Adrienne the same after she said she doesn’t wash her hands after using the bathroom when she is at home because “it’s her home” 🤮
Ew!
Qué?!???
@@lowkey_babe77 yes on that talk show she is on. I couldn’t believe it.
@@lowkey_babe77 th-cam.com/video/pU6nYVKpI5s/w-d-xo.htmlsi=AaV-DlwGaHWD52LF
She could've kept that to herself...
When I went to the Boyz II Men concert, Dru Hill was an opening act. I was disappointed to see that Dru Hill is now Sisqo and a bunch of unknowns.😒
I thought it was Jazz and Sisqo with 2 of the 3 members of the 90’s R&B group Playa…did they change it up again?
@@danisweetlove that could be right. I didn’t recognize anybody and Jazz only came out for minute. He’s gotten bigger.😕
All the OG members (Sisqo, Jazz, and Nokio) are back besides Woody. The others are Scola who joined the group on their 3rd album when they had 5 members, Tao who replaced Scola after he left & was with the group for years but has recently left to be in another band, and Black & Smoke from the 90's group Playa who joined when Nokio, Jazz, and Tao had left for a brief time.
Jessica Benson went on to be in two more girl groups, post 3LW. The last group was NLA and they released an album and several visuals to support.
Honey I have been watching this channel for years and I absolutely love it!
Keep coming through with the come through and giving us what we need ❣️
Left Eye COULD NEVER be replaced 4:29
You could do this whole video on the UK band Sugababes. Literally replaced every original member till the OGs reformed and had to go to court to get the name THEY CAME UP WITH back
TLC did not replace Left-Eye in no way, shape, or form. the purpose of that show 'R U The Girl?' was to have someone experience what it was like to perform with TLC, and have a song with them on their Greatest Hits Album. O’so Krispie was never brought in to replace Lisa, or become a member in TLC. neither was she a “temporary standing member.” you should’ve used the original member Crystal as an example since she was replaced by Chilli before TLC even came out.
T-Boz and Chilli ALWAYS made it clear since the death of Left-Eye that she will never be replaced, and they stuck by that to this day. they had girls perform with them over the years like, Lil’ Mama, Latto and O’so Krispie, but it was never to replace Left-Eye at all.
MY FAV FAV INTRO I HOPE YOU NEVER CHANGE IT, like just starts the video on a vibe everytime 🫶🏼🤩
I'm so glad Natauri ended up finding solo success!
I hated they replaced her she wasn't replaceable
Good evening: We missed you guys...!! I click so fast when I got the notification. Lingere what a name. I totally forgot about Pretty Ricky switch up. I never heard of R U the Girl, till watching this video. That name is 😂😂
O' Sokrispe
I miss the old intro but the outro is so nostalgic for me! I discovered this channel in 2018 during university days :') Always great videos.
Thank you for this on a Sunday. Gave me something to watch. Brings back old memories ❤
For a grown ssa man to be referred as 'Lingerie' is craziness...
T-Boz & Chilli always made sure to never replace Left Eye & they stuck to their word on that. The show R U the Girl was them doing a competition to find a girl that can rap, sing & dance & the winner would do a song with them on the finale & receive a recording contract & that was it. So that song they did w/ O So Krispie was nothing more than a feature if anything, because we didn’t see her anymore after that. And the whole R U the Girl show was their managers idea & they wasn’t for the idea of replacing Left Eye or giving the public the idea that they were, that is why they changed the format to the winner just doing one song & getting a recording contract. T-Boz & Chilli discussed this so many times. So them having a “fill in” is a reach.
Another notable group to have a personnel change is The Supremes, It's so famous, in fact, it inspired a musical. You may have heard of it. It's called "Dreamgirls."
It's also quite interesting that their story is parallel to Destiny's Child. The Supremes started out as the Primettes, the sister group to the Primes whose members would go on to create The Temptations. They had four members - co-founders Florence Ballard and Mary Wilson, Diane (her birth name) Ross, and Betty McGlown. Betty McGlown left the group to get married and Barbara Martin replaced her. After initial rejection due to being too young in 1959, Berry Gordy signed them to his fledging label Tamla Records which later became known as Motown Records, in 1961. By that year, they were either in their last year of high school or already graduated. He also demanded a name change. Ballard chose "The Supremes" after not liking the names Gordy provided. Their early years saw minimal commercial success, and Martin left the group to start a family. The group would remain a trio until the group's official disbandment.
Until 1964, Ballard, Ross, and Wells all shared lead vocals. Gordy changed that and made Diane - who began going by Diana by 1965 - the primary singer. He felt her light timber had more crossover appeal. Ballard, considered to have the strongest voice of the group members, did not appreciate this. Wells and Ballard still performed leads on album tracks and Ballard performed her signature song "People" from the musical Funny Girl live. However, Gordy's favoritism of Ross led to growing resentment not only within The Supremes but also among other Motown acts.
Things started to go sour in 1967. Gordy officially changed the group's name to Diana Ross and The Supremes. This would spark rumors of Diana being groomed for a solo career. Gordy brought in Barbara Randolph as a prospective new lead singer. She eventually acted as Florence Ballard's first replacement when Ballard's personal problems impacted her appearances at live performances. Ross was not a fan of Randolph and that led to Gordy signing Cindy Birdsong as Ballard's official replacement that same year. At the time, Birdsong was still in contract with Patti LaBelle and the Blue Belles, so she was technically on a probationary period until Gordy could buy out her contract. Florence had not been officially fired; Gordy encouraged her to quit. However, after an embarrassing showing at the Flaming Hotel, Gordy fired Ballard and officially replaced her with Birdsong (who he had been secretly bringing to gigs unbeknownst to Ballard). On a side note, the Flamingo Hotel fallout is dramatized in Dreamgirls at the end of Act I, the musical's most famous number: "It's All Over/And I Am Telling You." Florence Ballard sadly passed away in 1976 from a heart attack and in financial ruin amid a comeback. Before her passing, she reconciled with Ross and Wilson. Effie White, loosely based on Ballard, was intended to meet the same fate as her real-life inspiration. Jennifer Holiday, the originator of the role on Broadway, successfully fought to change this ending.
Motown announced in 1969 that Diane would go solo by the end of the year. By this time, the group's success had declined due to changing musical tastes, their primary songwriters Holland-Dozier-Holland leaving Motown acrimoniously., and in-group tension. Her final single with the Supremes, "Someday We'll Be Together" was released that year becoming the group's 12th and final #1 single on the Billboard Hot 100 and the last #1 single of the 1960s. Funnily enough, this single was intended to be Ross' first solo single as Birdsong and Wilson did not appear on the track (instead, Ross' first solo single would be "Reach Out and Touch Somebody's Hand" which would go on to be a top 40 hit on the Hot 100). Their lack of appearance on several Supremes singles was common at the time given the tension at the time. Syreeta Wright, label mate Stevie Wonder's wife (at the time) and songwriting partner, was the first considered replacement for Ross. When that didn't work, Jeanne Terrell was brought in. Gordy, according to Mary Wilson, also officially washed his hands of the group and focused on Ross' career (with whom he was having an affair, and that affair led to the birth of a child in 1971). The change in personnel led to the group reverting back to its old name The Supremes. Their first single post-Ross, "Up The Ladder To The Roof", was a top ten hit on the Billboard Hot 100. They would release lukewarm singles throughout the 1970s - "Stone Cold Love" being their last R&B #1 hit and top 10 Hot 100 hit - and experience more member changes. Birdsong left the group in 1972 and Lynda Laurence, Stevie Wonder's background vocalist, replaced her. Jeanne Terrell left due to being fed up with low success and lack of promotion and Scherrie Payne replaced her in 1973. Laurence would also leave that same year and Birdsong would return. in 1967, Birdsong left for the final time and Susaye Greene replaced her. By 1977, Mary Wilson,, the longest-tenured member and last remaining original member, had had enough and left the group. Seeing as there were no original members, Motown officially disbanded the group that same year.
Today Diana Ross, Susaye Greene, Cindy Birdsong, Scherrie Payne, and Jeanne Terrell are the last surviving members of The Supremes, with Ross being the sole original member left.
That seamed to be tge pattern for a lof girl groups back then and today.
Till this day I'm heartbroken that MB are not together anymore 😭😭💔
Love your vids!
I used to love me some Destiny Child baby 💕 I was heart broken 💔 when Latavia and Letoya were replaced Letoya was always my fav and the prettiest too me. Then I felt so bad for them b/c they didn’t even know they were fired. It took a big toll on their lives as well. Latavia spoke about forming addiction from depression they were so young I know it hurt them badly. Then Farrah came and then she left also. I said everyone else isn’t the problem idc what yall say I think Matthew Knowles was the reason also like Wendy Williams said Beyoncé and the girls.
Me too .
You’re right Matthew was the main reason for the problems in DC but people still til this day blame Beyoncè
@@janemaxhopper2846Farrah wasn't even in the group long and it seemed to impact her too. I knew he nust have been the common denominator when that girl group he managed post DC talked about him being messy, domineering etc
Pretty Ricky could’ve been even bigger . I remember I had their first album on my cd player lol I miss those days I was too young to be listening but still 😂
Jessica of 3LW is gorgeous!!!! She's so beautiful. wow
3LW the girl Kiley who’s family started the group did Naturi but god has the last word. She is a A list celebrity honey and the girl with the lisp bullied her b/c she was with her family and Naturi was alone. You know lisp was wrong b/c Adrienne apologized for what they did too her on that show The Real
I’m really surprised Dru Hill wasn’t included.
Jessica from 3LW was soooooooo pretty omgggggg
Pretty Ricky never recovered after the departure of Pleasure
I played that first 3LW cd to death. I loved them so much growing up!
Oh wow, I had no idea chili wasn’t the original C for TLC. it makes sense though, none of her initials start with the letter C.
I'm no rozanda aka wad not the original. She was a replacement from another girl name crystal Jones In I guess the they have to choose nick names for the group for chili as it should've been trl ... funny huh .
TLC never planned to replace Lisa "Lefteye" Lopez. A fan got a chance to be featured on a song.
Is that Miguel’s wife auditioning for TLC at 6:10?
Yes that was her namanzi whatever her name is. She was thirsty to be a singer. She was on American idol too.
@@Conversationswithdeeshe was on That So Raven too
EnVogue and Destiny's Child had line up changes
I cried when Aaliyah passed and Left Eye I was so hurt. I’m going go download Fan Mail TLC album I knew that album from front to back you hear me 😂😂
The third replacement of 3lw sang beautifully. Idk why she wasnt main singer for feeling u or given her own career
It's too bad she ended up in their mess.
Ouuu I can’t focus on nothing said during pretty Ricky omg I forgot how fkin fine Spectacular is! lol
yasss same 😂
I know this is going to be a good one💯
Also, fun fact about 3LW: the Mickey girl that Naturi replaced was Country singer, Mickey Guyton. She certainly dodged a bullet lol
And poor Jessica. You can she is talented.
Havent watched this channel in a lil min. That intro was so nostalgic 😂 BFTV is too underrated
You forgot about Dru Hill they got so many new members
I think the same men were working this playa group with static major.
Was gonna watch baddies, but let me watch this right quick!!!! ❤
So happy for some new content yaaaaaas 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Love your videos! I remember all these big moments when I was younger specifically DC and 3LW
damn oso crispie...BFTV always opens up my young memory bank with these videos lol forever quality content
The British R&B girl group Eternal were infamously down a member for every studio album they released in the 1990's! Sisters Easther & Vernie Bennett have recently reformed and made a return of sorts this year with a new member Christel Lakhdar! xo
@Franniiv3 It's a pity Lousie and Kelle are no longer members. Also I didn't like how only Easther sang lead.
Wow I love them and I knew they switched members .
@@itsjemmabonddidn't mis-teeq and all saints do that too I remember other uk girl groups like cleopatra, kleshay and the honeyz kept replacing members??.
Sarah from girls aloud passed away sadly.
The situation with Naturi was highly disturbing she was stranded in another state then they lied saying they didn’t do nothing to her
Addicted to this channel 😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩
This is wtf I’m talking ABOUT!
So Krispie was so embarrassing 😂.
On The Hotline and “I wanna see you push it” 😂😂😂😂😂
lmao at drake catching another stray with this omg girlz tea
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I get such nostalgia from the tlc reality show clip.. lol i was in high school at the time and loved that show. I remember recording the finally! Lol 😂
En Vogue is the reason for all these groups
If u can say that, then I can say the Supreme's are the reason for all of these girl groups, and I'm sure there were plenty of others before the Supreme's😊.
Really? Female rnb groups were around since the 50s. No they are not 🤦🏽♀️
I get what you mean when 🫶🏾💯and your absolutely right although as we all know their have been other female groups that paved the way, En Vogue definitely set the tone for their style, music, and talent all of them original members could SANG and they indeed was the pioneer for that style of R&B female girl groups
I knew them personally. ❤
@@timekademery clearly you are to incompetent for this conversation. The supremes had one lead singer. Groups were a thing but not as big as they were after En Vogue came out they really set the standard for what a girl group is suppose to be. All 4 women can sing no can lead and while doing so remain in harmony when someone else takes the lead. It was more interesting to watch then watching one person singing and the other lip syncing. NOW GO SIT DOWN IN A HIGH CHAIR
You could do rap groups like nwa
Tboz and Chilli never replaced lefteye because they keep theirs group legendary more alive forever but I’ve glad they choosing lil mama cause she played Lisa’s character on theirs biopic as well and helped the group of saved.
Jessica was/is so GORGEOUS!!!
I love this channel
Okay, I know a lot of y’all don’t like Kiely, but 3LW was a great group. Kiely definitely added something to the group. She can dance and she has a nice tone to her voice. She may not be a powerhouse vocalist, but her voice is nice.
I agree. I still hate her tho lol jk
Sorry but that girl sounded crazy 8:22
Real bad but her voice and size carried her through cause she sounds like left eye
She does… I think they were trying to capture lefteyes spirit
For Crystal not being a part of TLC was a blessing in disguise.
And all because she wanted a proper look at the contract. Like that right there would tell me something
The Temptations 🤣
Yeah, cause the man from the TP plays (Tony Grant) is one now 😂😂😂😂
I'm so GLAD I got to be a part of the MB era!! We were really the last generation with a black boy band! ❤😢
I am and always will be a fan of the 3LW original members
3LW will always be the most trifling way it ended. That group had the potential to represent something bigger than just fame and fortune. They all looked beautiful but man the colorism, pettiness, opportunistic, and nepotism showed how that type of representation was something they werent ready to carry. The management were in it for the profit only.
I wonder if Mickey left because of mess too. Then again IDK if I want to be part of a group where a family member is a manager unless they know how to actually be impartial
When I saw TLC, I was expecting you to mention Crystal. O So Krispie was NOT a shameless replacement, but I see these comments are allll lighting you up for this already 😅.
Mindless behavior was an era
Lingerie 😂😂😂 man I forgot all about that.
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Actually 3LW first performance with Jessica Benson was on an episode of Soul Train that aired in March of 2003. That was the last time I ever saw them perform with her on national television and didn't know they were still active after 2003. That's how bad their popularity went down. Jessica unfortunately didn't benefit much from her time with 3LW. Kiely is the common denominator behind 3LW/Cheetah Girls break up. The problem with her is she feels like she's the Beyonce of 3LW/Cheetah Girls. She threw chicken in Naturi face, acted jealous of Raven, she leaked naked photos of Adrienne on the Internet and there were rumors she allegedly started some drama with Jessica Benson behind the scenes. I believe it because that explains why Jessica blocks people on Instagram if they bring up 3LW. Jessica and Naturi are two dark skin women that got screwed in 3LW
Kiely was not behind Adrienne's nude photo leak, Adrienne herself allegedly leaked those photos for publicity
@@kerrionswaby1449 right Adrienne leaked her own nudes but everything else said here is true. Kiely was the WORST and its interesting considering she was the least talented in each group
Well she was the youngest and act like with extra bits of spoiled mixed in which she has admitted. Her sister who raised her spoiled her. She really does need to apologize
The Honeyz a British girlband had a line up change as well in the late 90s and great video!! Love your channel ❤
i’ll never forget when “on the hotline” came out. 😂
😂😂😂😂 I remember when one of the group members asked me to audition for the lead singer for pretty Ricky
Not Lingire 😂😂😂😂 3:29
702 is another i think it from 4 sisters to 2 and then added a 3rd member similar story as 3LW.
Speaking of them Kiely wasnt cast original in Cheetah Girls it was Solange. Sabrina Bryan talked about it in a podcast
Yep! There's an Unsung episode of 702. I had no idea Meelah wasn't an original member until I saw that episode.
@GeminiLesbian yes I have seen it. There's even a girl before meelah after they kicked out one of the twins.
Can you imagine if Solange had decided to take the role and only Adrienne stayed. Well Raven wouldn't be risking possible jail time
TLC's 3D album is amazing. thank god my mom bought that album
Ooh that pic of Drake wit the OMG girlz. SMH. How were we so blind
Jessica was gorgeous omg
Fun Fact: The black country singer Mickey Geiger (sp?) was an original member of 3LW
Mickey Guyton
@@brandonneal4957 Yeah, Guyton! I knew it was something like that. Thanx
@@brandonneal4957In other words bullet dodged
Jessica Benson is so gorgeous wow
I knew of all these except for Krispy...man when was that?! Lol shes really cute though i see why they chose her! She actually sounda like lil mama's impression of Left Eye. Jessica was a good replacement tbh she was fiiinnee. Adrienne was fine as well, but wow i wonder where all these people are today
Mindless Behavior had a lot of potential but they fucked it up when Prodigy felt soooo maltreated to the point that all hell broke loose and Ray talking shit about Lauryn Hill in an uncalled for light. Ewww. Sorry. Karma be knocking on your door for shittalking on women. Them young'uns be ungrateful
O'so crispy embodied too much of left eye it was creepy almost like she was really trying to be her 😢
Listen when Pretty Ricky broke up I literally cried but Pleasure P did amazing solo!! He even got Grammy nominated so it was a win for him😂
Never knew OMG girls were all the daughters of the r&b moms and even went on tour with them, that's honestly really sweet lol. They all look like they are friends too so that's cool.
There was another member of TLC before Chili. Chili was a replacement
And she dodged a bullet. Kicking someone out just for wanting to thoroughly go over a contract with a lawyer. Yeah that's a red flag
@@TVwriter23 I'm just acknowledging her