CMSF2 PVP: Red Zone
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- A Syrian Airborne Battalion defends against a Dutch heavy Mechanised force.
This is a multiplayer game between myself, playing as the Syrians, and Rujasu from the Few Good Men, who is playing as the Dutch.
You can pick up the demo for CMSF2 here: community.battl...
and can find details and info on the base game and its modules here: www.battlefron...
This is with the excellent HQS Sound Mod, a tweaked version of BabaricCo's FXShine shader, Vin's Unit Icons and Sir Lancelot's Syrian Army Realism Mod.
In Battlefront's own words:
"Combat Mission Shock Force 2 finally updates the ground breaking Shock Force 1 game setting to the current Game Engine 4 environment. Due to massive changes over the last 10 years of Combat Mission development the updating and upgrading of the original content to current standards was no small task. Most of the 3D models had to be rebuilt, reskinned, and reintegrated into brand new TO&E coding. All original scenarios and campaign games had to be checked out, tweaked, and generally improved so they retained the balance and excitement of the originals. Fans of the original game will find that this is much, much more than a new coat of paint."
"Take command of US Stryker Brigade Combat Teams (SBCT) and Heavy Brigade Combat Teams (HBCT) to fight against Syrian Army Infantry, Mechanized and Armored units in an arid setting. Experience the full range of modern threats to conventional military forces, including irregular combat forces, terrorists, spies, suicide bombers, IED's and other deadly tools employed in the asymmetric warfare of the modern day. Play the Task Force Thunder campaign, more than a dozen carefully crafted battles, or unlimited Quick Battles."
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I think CM is a bit like dwarf fortress in the way it takes a little imagination. Much funner to say "that Syrian watched one too many war movies" than "oh great my guy's stuck in the water again."
Ha! Yes, coming up with explanations for why the pixeltruppen are doing whatever daft thing they're doing is good fun.
An extremely enjoyable battle to watch, nice to see a bit of controlled aggression at the start from Rujasu. Well done on the win.
Cheers man! Rujasu really caught me off guard at the start, seems very rare to play someone who goes in guns blazing like that.
LOL my two favorite CM YTer's in one comment section. You guys need to get some more stuff out. :)
Great video! Thank you!
Even though game granted you a Minor Victory, I think it would be Total Victory on Operational Level. Such high casualties for Dutch would probably result in furious reaction of its home populus and if not full withdrawal, degrading Dutch actions to support roles.
Cheers man! I don't think a real Dutch commander would have persisted in the attack- I think they would have stopped, hung back and bombed the town flat.
@@usuallyhapless9481 imigine somhow the siryans have air superiority couse of Russian or sombodyis support and the town can't be bombed
"They'll be in too deep to benefit from all their fire support...UnLeSs ThEy BrInG wItH tHeM!!!!"
Great video, please do more battles as the Syrians, it's much more exciting than watching NATO imo - but maybe more RPGs and fewer IEDs next time!
Definitely RPG rounds instead of IEDs next time!
Loving your work as ever. Would echo others comments about how nice it is to see a game from the Syrian perspective, not least how initial deployment seems to be all with fragile forces with limited optics, C2 and morale. Also interesting to see what happens when NATO have weapons free collateral damage is acceptable: Enemy in a building? Drop the building! And the one they just retreated into. Repeat, repeat, repeat.
Thanks for the vid!
Cheers! It certainly sucks being on the recieving end of all that firepower.
The reason why you only have one AT RPG round in the airborne squads is that the other five are kept in the BMP-3.
For (presumably buggy) reasons, you can't select BMP-3s in Quick Battles right now, so you're out of luck.
Yeah, I thought it might be that. Should have just gone for the RPG-16 (or actually test-purchased my force- that would have been smart). There seems to be at least a few formations missing from the QB selector- British Armoured Recce Regiments are in the Editor, but not in the QBs, which is a shame.
now this is what I call a true strategy game doesn't matter how many you have.
That was great. I've been waiting a long time to see someone play as the Syrians and to see how they'd fair against a NATO force. You did well considering the amount of modern armour that you were up against.
It's a shame that your airbourne mortar team only had 13 rounds (unlucky for them..), if I recall rightly you also picked a German airbourne mortar team in one of your recent CM Final Blitzkrieg multiplays because they had more ammo than a regular mortar team, so I figure that you applied the same logic this time, it's a shame it didn't pan out though.
Out of curiosity, would it have been possible to destroy the Dutch armor while it was on the bridge and fords? Effectively turning them into roadblocks, and also denying the infantry fire support while they assaulted the town?
Thanks! The mortars are usually mounted in trucks, with the trucks carrying most of their ammo- these ones came as an infantry-only formation without vehicles and I didn't make the connection. If any of the Dutch vehicles had been destroyed on the bridge then they would have made good roadblocks (the fords were too wide for that). The game still lets vehicles through, but only slowly and with lots of pathfinding niggles- they would be good targets though!
Jeez, that was brutal to watch. That first Dutch squad especially lol.
I know that playing the Opfor is harder then playing Blufor but I love seeing these uphill fights and creative use of units
Super, thanks!
Real good to see the Syrians get some attention. I'll know what to expect next time you do an in-depth unit analysis.
Nice video ! Could you maybe try to stop at key moments and showing the whole picture ?? Like some arrows to show where you're moving troops or something? Otherwise amazing job !
Yeah, in hindsight a bit less focus on interior shots would have made it a lot easier to follow. One to remember!
Asome video finaly playing with syria
My SPWAW experience says that Rujasu should have sectioned off his beachhead with smoke, and proceeded to level everything in the box. (Does CM get Turn 1 arty?) He let you get far too many free shots with the ATGMs.
As always, fantastic AAR, and you are a consummate sportsman and gentleman.
Love your intro, very detailed and insightful!
14:39 those infantry have balls of steel to be standing up and returning fire when the lead to oxygen ratio in the air around them is approaching 1:1 😅
Lovely video mate,keep it up
It pained me to see those IEDs never went off. Could've forced the armour into the fords. Regardless, will you be doing unconventional forces next?
A PBEM as the Uncons is definitely on my list. Making a balanced game out of it could be tricky though.
The IED´s must be triggert by a uncon with cell phone they dont go off by them self!
@@LDZMarder There are two types of IEDs in SF2- Uncon IEDs, which need a triggerman with a radio/wire/cell phone; and Syrian Army IEDs, which operate like big mines. These will go off when vehicles drive over them... just not every time.
@@usuallyhapless9481 No doubt, still win or lose is irrelevant as long as you are able to put up a struggle and show us how to fight with the Uncons.
Your unbiased commentary is refreshing
Great video! LoL @21:50 . This has happened to me too. A keyhole position needs an adequately large killzone to detect and take aim even at fast moving targets.
The battle was just carnage all over the place. I can't help feeling that the map is too small for modern weapon systems. It's point blank range everywhere.
Now that Slithering owns Battlefront, I truly hope this pushes Battlefront to improve all aspects of these games. They’re already great, but if this game had improved visuals it would really help attract more attention. Some new features would be nice too.
awesome intro and setup description. thank you
Really really nice game and video!
Awesome gameplay
I give you lots of credit Hapless.. it is difficult to survive being the Syrian Player vs another. The FLIR of western tech and obviously in game leaves little advantage for the OPFOR. It is hard to hide and ambush unless they literally turn a corner or rush on the reverse slope. Damn fine job though.
In regards to the game audio not being able to cope with massed firefights (I call this "the cacophony issue") that is definitely caused by the HQS sound mod.
BFC have designed their game around gun shot sounds being often less than a half second long.
HQS gun shots, by comparison, are often 5 seconds long.
"The Cacophony issue" (which only really crops up in the modern games & even then only at close quarters where everyone is blazing away at full auto) can be resolved by using a more efficient sound mod (Audigasil or AKDM 1.2 are the go-to alternatives).
Well played Hapless and enjoyable video. Why not mine the hell out of the crossings or did you have some house rules against this?
Thanks man! We didn't have any house rules (full contact all the way!) but I decided that mining the bridge especially would be unfair. When I was testing the defence out, attacking units would treat the minefields as impassable terrain (once they'd found them!) and try and plot a path around them. Obviously with the bridge this led to some very unintuitive pathfinding as they started running off towards the fords without it being clear why (took me while to figure out what was going on).
It seemed a bit harsh to purposefully create a situation where the TacAi did something stupid for my troops to exploit. Plus its a pain for the attacking player to try and play minesweeper under fire. IEDs seemed like a decent alternative, but they obviously they failed to perform. Maybe a minefield or two an action square away from the chokepoints to allow the TacAi to get around it, but still making the mines useful would be better next time.
Ooh, this was a good one! Have you considered playing Syria on the attack? Would be fun to see that 150% points advance on a massive map....
Loved watching this mission
Nice video, beating of NATO troops by Syrian forces can rarely be seen in AARs.
the problem of cmfs 2 vanilla is that it lacks alot in terms of urban maps for quick battlea
11:26 T55 bullet magnet
It would be interesting to have some ROEs that limit the amount of collateral the allies can inflict..
It would. That sort of thing is impossible to police in Quick Battles though, more of a scenario thing.
Are the IEDs always that unreliable?
"IED mines" are a single, massive, buried explosive. Conventional minefields are abstracted, but there are lots in a single spot, so I wouldn't be surprised if you were less likely to hit IEDs.
Further, actual-IED (above ground, that require a triggerman) have a built in failure rate of at least 10%. It's not clear whether that failure rate applies to the buried ones, but it wouldn't surprise me.
Great game and learning experience.
am i missing something here? 'west bridge' is east of 'north bridge':D
nice vid as always.
Can anyone help ? I purchased this game combat mission shock force 2 but it wont launch. Any place I look online mentions having to have the original game Shock Force. I was wondering is that my salutation? Or does anyone else know what the issue might be ?
Shock Force 2 is completely separate from the original. Best looking at the threads or asking the guys over at community.battlefront.com/forum/114-cm2-general-tech-support/
I would love to see CM game about Che-chen war.
Alik alik retreat your pixeltroopen
Hi ! I really like this kind of video, espacially the format. Not too short, not too long, which is really hard with this kind of game.
I can hardly find the mods you are using. They are available for other Combat mission games but not for SF2. I must be looking in the wrong place. Could you possibly send me the links or the website where you found them ? thx
When i hear dutch. I expect captain davy jones with ships
i really want to know , how you can make this vidoe game so clear and ammizing shape and , what mod or patch you use
Ty for the upload - interesting but seemed so unfair.. asymetric gameplay has its downside I guess
Shit wait whut?! should have waited until the end of the video before posting.. LOL nicely done man.
Surprise! ;)
CMSF II pbem
I’ve watched this battle three times and frankly, it was like watching high school student debating a phd candidate.
There is a lot to say about firepower and superior weaponry, and then there is just solid methodical operational tactics.
With the firepower advantages here, it should have been lots and lots (less armor and more guns guns guns) of artillery and then superior infantry mopping up.
Bum rushing objectives invariably ends poorly. He must have known you would squirrel away anti armor teams and pick your spots. Blasting the city with a rolling barrage would have won the day.
Biggest mistake was doing this with no air support
24:51 The Dutch have taken so many casualties in one fight it would bring down the Dutch government. 😮💥😕🙄 Ministers would be resigning left and right!
JAMSHEED
T55 is worse than sherman
Good video. It gave me ptsd. Long live Assad.
Playing Rujasu in a Red on Red game, and I'm getting clobbered. Good to see him get a bloody nose. :P
Jokes aside, it was a good game. I look forward to more!
Why do you call soldiers "pixel tripping" (or something like that)?
It from the old Battlefront forum: 'Pixeltruppen' = Pixel Soldiers
@@usuallyhapless9481 Oh, it's about tradition then. I was going crazy searching for the meaning, thinking it was something technical to understand. Thank you for the answer 👍🏼
What on earth is play by email...? Can you seriously play this game via email like a game of chess?
It's usually done via Dropbox rather than actual email, but yep. Honestly, it's the best way to play it.
@@usuallyhapless9481 Super late reply but I’m curious to how that works? Do you take turns uploading a savestate of the battle and play in the turn mode? Sounds very interesting. I just recently picked up the demo of CMSF2 and it’s proving to be very complex. Loving the videos as an intro to the series. They’ve been incredibly informative from the beginner guide to these AARs
@@dingerdanger1570 Sort of. Got a video on it here: th-cam.com/video/cVMBQrAwsEw/w-d-xo.html There's also now the PBEM + system from Slitherine incorporated into CMCW (and probably coming to the other games) which handles all the file movement automatically.
This is awesome