Understanding the Music of Doom
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ส.ค. 2020
- UPDATE Nov. 2022: Mick Gordon deserved far better for his work on the soundtrack of Doom Eternal. Read Mick's side of the story here: / my-full-statement-rega...
In 1993, Doom became one of the world's first immersive video games, and we can attribute a lot of that to Bobby Prince's score. Today, Mick Gordon has adapted the diversity of Doom's soundtrack in a slew of unorthodox and incredible ways. This video explores how Mick was able to do this, what it adds to both games, and why his compositions were so important.
Sources:
doom.fandom.com/wiki/Doom_music
Mick streams Doom Eternal music - • Video
Doom Eternal OST Open Letter - / doom_eternal_ost_open_...
Sub-bass explanation (listen with headphones) - • What is the Sub-Bass?
Mick Gordon’s pinned comment on this video - • DOOM Eternal: NEW Trai...
Mick @ GDC 2017 - • DOOM: Behind the Music
Mick Gordon hops into Hana Macchia’s stream (follow puppy) - • (DOOM Eternal) anime g...
Featuring some music by HOME, HEALTH
Doom - Behind the Music Part 1 • DOOM: Behind The Music...
Doom Eternal - The Heavy Metal Choir - • DOOM Eternal: The Heav...
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The end of this video is severely outdated, and Mick deserved far better. Read Mick Gordon's full statement on the Doom Eternal OST release here: medium.com/@mickgordon/my-full-statement-regarding-doom-eternal-5f98266b27ce
I took Marty's words at face value. I apologize for making this case seem so cut and dry in the video. I wish Mick all the best, love his work just as all of you do. For my extended thoughts, see this post: th-cam.com/channels/WQfbcMGyrPDlIU7wV7aAOQ.htmlcommunity?lb=Ugkxgl27-PWPra7wcnIOiSEjn_KiYbMNob8b
Good on you for updating on a 2 year old video though.
Nice seing this, was just heading to the comments to se if anything had happened here. I find it good that you posted an update to a two year old video.
Don't be too hard on yourself Liam, the passion and respect that drives you to make these, and the integrity and bravery that makes you strive to make sure you did right by everyone every time is a kind of love that you have come to channel beautifully ❤
I didn't know about the Marty post until just now, and honestly I'm surprised so many people bought it at face-value. I'ver been following Mick's career since Killer Instinct; guy's really cool from all the interviews I've ever seen. He takes pride in his work that gets published so I'm surprised there weren't more suspicions when the OST dropped and it wasn't up to par.
Great video and great update. Maybe a video detailing those disputes is in order? I’m furious how Mick got screwed by a toxic manager who is still being defended by Bethesda.
ID software: no guitars
Mick Gordon: OK guys I have an idea, what if I use *A GUITAR*
Jim Pickens what are you doing here
Chainsaw*
Man Jim get's everywhere!
Then Mick swiftly improvised a guitar with a Chainsaw, tape and a guitar
ID: *YES*
Mick Gordon walks into a hardware store: "Ah yes. An orchestra."
And what a mighty orchestra they are
@@w.a.pweaponizedassaultpeng7141 one doesn't consider satisfaction when conquering the universe but this puts a smile on my face.
Percussionists already think like this lmao
Mick:
Ah, I do love the music section of a *hardware store*
he may be blind but nobody said that was a bad thing
Year 1812:
People: Tchaikovsky, no.
Tchaikovsky: Yes "sound of cannons"
Year 2020:
People: Mick, no.
Mick Gordon: Yes "sound of chainsaw and lawnmower"
When they reveal the Mick Gordon x russia hidden tragic backstory
"TCHAIKOVSKY YES! TCHAIKOVSKY ALWAYS YES!"
Actually the 1812 overture is named after the year 1812 during the napoleonic wars, it was written around 1880. Edit: autocorrect in Portuguese apparently
I love the fact that Doom’s music sounds like boss music; because it’s you; you are the boss
What about the choir it really gives u the sense that u r in hell
Doomguy isn't the boss, he's the goddamn CEO
Totally, those demons are your biaaaatch
“Mick, we said no guitars, this is unacceptable.”
“well that isn’t a guitar.”
“What is it then? Cause it sounds like a guitar.”
“chainsaw.”
lol
"mcfuckinscuse me?"
That is most powerful phrase anybody has ever pulled of there back pocket
What song is the one with the chainsaw? Im trying to find it
@@peepeepoopooman1953 Cultist Base and for Doom 2016, Hellwalker is one of them too
The longer Mick Gordon is on earth, the stronger he will become.
Good!
The longer mick is on earth the more brutal the music will become!
The longer mick Gordon is on this earth the more rip and tear their will be
And if he reaches mars?
37:41 “puppi”
"Man! This guitar sounds so good!"
"It's a chainsaw..."
"Oh, This synth sounds so go-"
"It's a lawnmower."
"how the fuck does it sound so good then"
"bro i don't even know"
Both are violent ways to go. Can’t get much more metal than that
Can't wait for lawnmowerman
Random person: using a lawn mower
Mick Gordon: Yo turn that shit up
AYO LUMBERJACK THAT BEAT FIRE!
KEEP REVVING THAT CHAINSAW YO
Isn’t it crazy how every Doom album comes with a free game
Why do nu-doom fans keep posting the same four comments over and over
@@cubedpotatoeshd2479 ikr
@@cubedpotatoeshd2479 Isn’t it crazy how every Doom album comes with a free game
jazzmaster909 yeah, its wild
@@cubedpotatoeshd2479 Isnt it crazy how every Doom album comes with a free game
Bethesda: Remember no guitar.
Mick Gordon: *Revs chainsaw with musical intent*
*Australlia intensifies*
He's channelling Tchaikovsky's use of cannons
This comment has 666 likes as me typing this
Hey does anyones knows the name of the song with the chainsaw in it?
@@peepeepoopooman1953 Hellwalker
"The Only Thing they Fear is You" is what got me into Doom. It has had such a big impact on me that I literally sleep to this music. Mick Gordon, you have shaped my tastes in music, and I thank you with my whole soul.
cheese
same
Same here, even tho I haven't played DOOM Eternal, this actually gotten me to try DOOM 1 and 2
I will get that game tho
SAME
I also like to think he invented new sub-genre of metal music. So unique and tasty!
"Doom fans will burn your house down."
They say video games make you violent. I'd say not having their video games makes some people a lot more fucking violent.
Yes
We get no DOOM your house will go boom
That's a modified helsing ultimate abridged reference
Nice
I'd say not letting Mick release a FLAC version of HIS soundtrack, is making me want to be pretty fucking violent.
agreed
random guy: *mowing their lawn
mick: man that sound sick
Mick Gordon: noted
Worker: - *Cutting the tree with the chainsaw* -
Mick: *Yo nice music you got there*
A house is on fire
Mick: nice background noise
Sevish: I like leaf blowers.
Mick: BRUH THIS SLAPS
Doom 2016: Ok, no guitars.
Mick: *uses guitar anyway
Doom eternal: Sorry, my mistake, you can use guitars now
Mick: **USES LAWNMOWERS AND CHAINSAWS INSTEAD*
Why did they say no guitar though?
@@Gallium_AA he explained it in the video but quickly it's because every game that has a slight bit of action always uses guitars in their soundtrack so that's why they didn't want guitars for the sake of originality
@@toxicdragon2789 thanks for explaining
@@toxicdragon2789 that actually sounds pretty reasonable but I'm glad Mick used guitars anyway
@@i-dislike-handles oh yeah same here but it’s cool they said that as well because then he came up with those cool sounds with the chainsaw and lawn mower
30:08
"Then, the whistle comes back, with teeth."
Best line, made me get the chills.
Yes!!
Everyone knows that playing Doom music increases your FOV, gives you a 50% reaction time buff and an 80% strength buff.
Along with that fact, as demonstrated by "Baby Driver chase scene but with Deja Vu", playing Deja Vu while driving gives you a 50% reaction time buff.
So what happens if you play Doom music in one ear and Deja Vu in another while in a mecha?
How about Argent Metal cover on Deja Vu?
can confirm: strength buff is real in the gym after listening to this.
Massive nerf, don’t push your luck.
you go deaf and your head explodes but so does the mech and you kill all life within 100 miles
60% of the world population dies is what happens
"is chainsaw an instrument"
"no chainsaw is not a instrument"
*Mick raises hand again
"no lawnmower is not an instrument either"
YOU GOT ME LAUGHING WITH THE LAWNMOWER PART LOL
You’re forgetting the human bones he used lmao
@@Ismael-kc3ry what😳
*Uses chainsaw and lawnmower like a boss* music time
@@seargent-nodens I think you meant theme
27:35 "Mick created a 264bpm track"
Ah yes, Industrial Metal Speedcore. Perfect for blowing the entire planet apart.
As a cello player, I struggle to even begin to comprehend that tempo.
@@JoseGomes-gi9pp I play trombone.
Get on my level of pain.
(respecc tho)
@@consoleguy647 You can't go up or down in pain, pain is indefinite and continuous. Respect though, can be gained or drained.
@@JoseGomes-gi9pp I don't play any instruments because I'm a :b:ussy
@@JoseGomes-gi9pp I agree with your point.
I still love how the music in doom seems to always tie in to your movements
example: a bass drop as you punch an imp in the face
We call this breakdown, my padawan
s t e m s
It does
I mean, it's as if the music is like a clock signal (as in a computer chip) except subconscious.
Mick Gordon is so metal, he’s being added to the periodic table.
sheesh🥶🥶
That’s a good one
Gordonium
I hate when people say “Yeah doom eternal just has too much big fighty shoot demon, i want more story” like bro youre playing a doom game
I have literally never heard a person say that in my life.
Who cares if they do? There's story stuff in the game, and it's completely skippable if you want so whether you want story or you don't, you're covered.
Half-Life: immersive storytelling and exciting gameplay!
Bioshock: beautiful (dis)utopian cities and philosophy!
Doom: R̴̡̨̡̛̛̜̯̩͕̹̪̭̬̲͙͇̖̿͂͗́͌̒̃̐͛͂̂̀͂̌̔̀̐͐͋̇́̀͛̅̊̾̄͐̄̂̎̏͛̅͘̕̚̚̕͘͠Ḯ̷̧̢̧̨̤͍̥͇̫͙̮̘̹̤͉̥̙̪͈͎̪̹͈͙̣̬̭̱͔̺̟͇̥̺̜̼̳̣̙͎̰̰̙̟͇̩͋͊͋̊̽͆͜P̸̡̨̧̺͙͚̭͉̻̘̬̟̟̥͙̥̬̘̟̠͓͕̪̞̗̘̜͔̥̗͍̗͔̝̻̭̭̤̯̳͙̻̻̖̦̗͔͎̻͙̮̻̙̻̉̏͂͋̽̏̿̑̂̃̌͌̀̋͑̐͌̇̐͛̈̃͋̓̐̋̍̌̃̆̈̌̕̚͘̕͘͘̚͜͜͜͝͠͠͠ͅ ̵̡̧̧̨̛̥͈̰̘͖͉̻̲̟̼͉̪̬̟̭̰͓͙̙̙̳̮̝̯̦̭̦͍̤̗̫͈̩͖͉̦͇̹̃͑̓͒̋͂͒͆̃̅̿̄͂̈́̃͂̈́̉̓̑́͆̃̈́̏̆̋̔̉́͊̽̈́̃̄͌̑͂̾̅̀́̉̍̓̒̐̈́͐̂̽̆́͆̈́͋͌͗͋̑̄̎̌̕̕̚̕͜͜͜͝͝͠A̶̡̛͔̪̼̩̩̼͈̟̣̯̜̰͎͚̪̞̥̜͍̘̳̒̒̈́̈́̐̃̍̏͂͐̓̓̾̓̈́̿͐͂͐̕͘͝N̸̡̢̡̛̛̛͖͍͙̻̭̗͖͍̞̥̭̼͎͕̖̝̱͕̦̼̝̰̮̳̳͔̗̮̭̳͛͌̐͗͑̋͑͑͊̃̽̆̀̾̈́̌̈́̿̆͐̔̄̑͛̑́̊̌̽͑͆͐̀̇̈́́̈́̇͛̌͋̓͌̒͋͆̋̚̕̚͜͝͝͝ͅD̸̢̡̨̘͔̪̯̼̖̦͔̯͈̳̩̠̼̺̼̹̟̩̜̹̻̙̼͔̲̠̟̥̻͈̲̺͓̺̟̦̯͇͊͋̐̌̊̍͛͗̽͑̏̐̑̅͆̀̽̓̈́͗̀͂̇̔͑̀̊́̈́̓͛̂̇̿̅͊̇̕̕̚͜͝ ̸̧̨̧̡͓͖̞̝͇̤̫̳̫̝̘̦̪̦̰̣͓͙̝̠͉̘͚͍̰͓̝̪̪̖̞͔̬̞͇̰͔̫͕̹͉̘̹̪̬͇͑̃̇̊̓̈́̉́͐̋̋̂̐̄̑͌̏̆͐̽͊͒̓́̌̿͊̈́̈́͒̒̏̒̒͂̑̈́̍̒̉̎̕̕͘͝͝͝͝͠ͅͅͅŢ̴̢̨̨̡̧̪̮̤͓̫͙̥̰̞̣̠͎̩̲̗̺̖͍̣͙̗̜̮͙̬͖̖̩̭̦͓̺͗̀̎̈̾̍̔̎͌̈́̃̉͋̾̋̒̔̔̓́͛̃̊̅͊̉̽͗̍͗̈́̔͐̇̋̏̀̏̈́̄͗́̿́̿̀̓̀̇͛̊̎͘̚̕͝͠͝͝͠ͅḚ̶̡̧̧̨̡̢̛̛̛͍̳̯̼̫̯̬̺͉̭̝̲͎͔̤̺̫͚͎̰̝̟̖̱̣̝̞͓̱͓̬̖̩͇͕̅̐̓̓̋̾̐̐̈́̓͛̒̐̃̏̉̈́̑͊͂͑̈́̇͊͒̃̆́̎̍͑̀̈́̉́́͑̿̄̀͒̾̆́̾͋̃̎͆͋͛̈́͌͛̒͘͘̚͘̚͘̕̕̚͜͠͠͝͝͝A̵̢̧̢̨̢̖̬͇̭̫̗̟̘̫̗̟̥̦̯̟̳̹̩̺͍̙̼̙̖̰͈̫̞͕͖̼͆͆̏̂̈̌͐̊̐̐̑́́̋͌̊̀͒͐̍̆̈́̎̍̈́͂̿̆̉̎̈̏́̂́̄͆̃̎̒̇̀̍͛̒̀̀̒̕̕̕̕̚̚͜͝͝͝R̵̛̫̘̥̀̑̓̔͑̅̽̑̒͆̏͂́̾̒̒͂̈̀̑̚̕͝
There’s a lot more story in the game than I expected, the perfect amount
@@DropkickNation eh i think its pretty funky and alright
• Scrithen •
The only reason I expected Doom Eternal to have a good story was because *Doom 2016 had a really good story.*
Not just the lore, but the interplay between Samuel and Olivia, Samuel and the Slayer ("Carefully release the hinges!"), the Hell testaments of the Slayer's previous conquests, even Vega had some time to shine in the penultimate level.
Doom 2016 absolutely had a story. It was just really good at decieving you it didn't by having the Slayer not trust anyone and disobey their orders. Everyone remembers getting locked in Samuel's office while he talks to you, right?
Eternal has a lot of plot disappointments. It's not even that it needed to add more, it just needed to do anything else with what it had. The 3 Hell Priests are all the same sniveling villain archetype, the Betrayer and King Novik appear in literally one scene each in the present and then never again (very sparingly in the codexes), and not only is the ending of 2016 not given any closure, but Samuel Hayden is mystery-retconned in ways that make him ironically less cool.
You have to try REALLY hard to make *Doctor Samuel Hayden* less cool.
The Khan Maykr is interesting enough though. The Maykrs' lore is pretty interesting in general.
Addendum: I said a bit more than I anticipated, lol.
Bethesda: Whatcha got there?
*Obvious Guitar*
Mick: A Chainsaw...
Bethesda doesn’t have much to do with it. ID makes the DOOM games.
@@orenji64 id*
@@unknownobject3 ?
@@justanormalguy5496 It's not capitalized
@@neryrivera6305 but who cares if it’s capitalized or not
There is literally no contest for the single most metal man on Earth. My man synthed a fucking lawnmower
This game’s soundtrack is the reason why I love music more than I did before. The fact that they made me jam to power tools and synthetic rock without me even knowing it makes me happy.
Oh boy... you're only scratching the surface. All the elements in the soundtrack have existed to various degrees throughout Industrial, EDM, and Metal for at least a decade, and there are quite a few bands and projects out there with a similar sound... not to mention basically a whole multiverse (compared to the variety in mainstream pop) of independent and underground musicians most people never get any exposure to.
Here is a band that does somewhat similar things, in a somewhat different manner, *Genghis Tron*
th-cam.com/video/4D5tQ0OCsRk/w-d-xo.html
Hit me up for more recommendations. I used to DJ at my college's student-run indie radio station back in the day, so I am a decent source for this sort of thing.
@@lazerhosen thank you for sharing that link, I've never heard of that band but I love that album 🤘🤘
@@wilsonjonah 🤘🔥🤘glad you like it! When it came out my buddy brought it over, we put the CD in (blazed up of course), and it had me from moment one all the way until the end. Having had seen them doing a DIY tour playing their earlier, more experimental/disjointed tunes, it blew me away. They managed to alchemically distill all of the elements they drew from into one coherent sound, it was transcendental!
@@lazerhosen i still think doom is heavier
@@user-fv9er3by5n yes, that wasn't the point I was making, just an example of mixed instrumentation. There are literally Djent and Prog/Tech-Death bands that slap harder, shred faster, and play more intricately complex than anything in Doom Eternal.
I refuse to believe that my favourite bit in "The Only Thing They Fear Is You" is a lawnmower.
You're insane Mick.
Hes the doom overlord, what do you expect?
same lol
He is the god of metal, the lord of rock
@@boirnoboiovanna1130 ironic, the doom slayer himself is saying that
@@boirnoboiovanna1130 do you have headphones so you can hear the metal beats?
Can we all appreciate that Mick Gordon is such a madlad that he used both a chainsaw and a lawnmower to help compose Doom 2016 & Eternal’s soundtracks?
The lawnmower wasn't even his, it was his neighbor's and he was pissed off at the noise interrupting his work
Also a flute made from human bone.
Adrian Smith So he just recorded that guy’s lawnmower background noise and made it part of the soundtrack?! LMAO
Adrian Smith Like I said, MADlad.
@@distantsea Neighbour: What are you doing?
Mick: Recording your lawn mower
Neighbour: Why?
Mick: My goals are beyond your understanding.
29:37 That whistle, composed of those 4 simple notes, is known as the "Woo - eee - woo - oooh", the soundtrack for Map 30 of Doom 2.
Icon Of Sin! Hell yeah
@@lucasvinals Literally *Hell* yeah!
@@Bigvs.Dickvs Doom eternal’s menu became an instant favourite of mine once I heard it, such a cool ass song
Was wondering why that didnt get mentioned. There are so many easter eggs in the various tracks and stems for Doom 2016/Eternal.
Normal people : listening to music in order to concentrate
Me at 3 am relaxing : BFG division
Tbh it's really good for relaxation.
Friend: "Oh boy, I really like this music part of the game. It got be an intense part, right?"
Me: "main menu"
Wolfenstein the new order has the best main menu music, way better than doom
@Gabriel Howell you have no empathy? It really doesn't shake anything in you???
@Gabriel Howell be honest, with that reasoning nothing at all can be called a fact.
@@512TheWolf512 wolfenstein has better main menu music doom has better music at everything else
is that a russianbadger reference?
“Jamming out to power tools”
The ultimate dad rock
*CHAD DAD ROCK
*MEGA CHAD
Would we have it any other way
*ULTRA MEGA CHAD
666th like lol
hearing you speak on micks impact and the immediate reaction to eternal after what just came out is heartbreaking. mick is crucial and the way he was treated is disgusting.
I love that the whistle in the main menu of doom eternal is the same four notes as the first icon of sin fight.
There are atleast 80-90 soundtracks in total from both 2016 and eternal that take inspiration/or are remakes of original doom music
Other producers: So, we have this instrument here that goes togheter with this one and boom, a nice song!
Mick: * Sniffs cocaine * Ah yes, a *lawnmower* would be a nice instrument
Mick: *does a blunt* Holy shit, what if we hide shit in the spectrogram of the song?
Music composers: “Hey uhhh, Mick? What are you doing with the chainsaw?”
Mick: “ehhhhh augh chainsaw make vrrrr sound sound become music”
Music composers: “holy fuck he’s a genius.”
never drink tapwater at jerry garcias house
Cpt. Xplainn true due
lawn mower as an instrument is peak australian, can confirm.
You can't just use a guitar in the game soundtrack
Objective Updated: *Use a guitar in the soundtrack*
This is an underrated comment.
“You can’t just blow a hole into the surface of Mars.”
Objective updated: *Blow a hole into the surface of mars*
@@tiago5001 Doom Slayer: **BLOWS A HOLE INTO THE SURFACE OF MARS WITH NO HESITATION**
Hulshult and Levy did a spectacular job with the DLCs, but I still can’t help but wonder how Mick’s versions of the DLC tracks would have sounded...
Better.
you mean the tag right?
@@BananaHoovyJ.Rabbit
*Laughs in immora*
"In the future, gore will be randomly generated"
"Lawnmower"
"No offence but this aint music its noise." - Michael P. Shipley
Literally everyone: "That's where you're wrong, kiddo"
Never heard of this person before. Where was this said?
@@ThisisKyle it was on this video: th-cam.com/video/Cu61qgp6XoE/w-d-xo.html
unfortunately the comment was deleted, but back when it was posted it got pinned and it got an avalanche of replies (SPOILER ALERT: it wasn't pretty).
there's not much comments that talk about it nowadays but you can find some if you search enough.
joe rogan said the same thing too thats when i stopped watching him
@@VirtualConnor hes dead to me now
@@LoneWindtheWolf was it this video? I think it was on a video before the game came out and the background was a tower in red. like the argent tower from Doom 2016. I remember seeing the comment
In the first chord, of the first song, when the synths first lengthened, one stood. Burned by the embers of metal, his fingers blistered by the fires of Hell and practiced to ascension, he chose the path of perpetual rock. In his ravenous playing he found no peace; and with boiling blood he scoured the Umbral Chords seeking vengeance against the dark lords who had wronged him. He wore the guitar of the Night Sentinels, and those that tasted the bite of his songs named him... the Doom Player.
[screeching sounds and heavy metal intensify]
An underrated comment!!!! This is so good 😅
Literally imagined him instead pumping a shotgun, he tuned his guitar 🤣
I think "... and those who tasted the bite of his pick" is more apropriate
I need the demon voice himself, Piotr Michael to voice this. 🤭
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😭😎💀👍🏿
Man in bfg division i really enjoy that breaf moment before the main riff, with those three beeps, its like a switch being flipped with "carnage mode" written on it
The three beeps are direct remakes of E3M7 music
can we all just collectively agree that DOOM is a stress relieving game
why the hell is this still getting likes wth
I'm sorry the fuck I needed to take a break every half hour to get a god damn during cause I was headbanging too hard
I mean
You're not wrong, taking anger and stress out on demons is great
It is
A gajillion percent
Except when there is a maruder and you have low HP, that is Stress *INDUCING*
Lawnmower: BRRRRRRR
Mick Gordon: *AH YES, MY NEXT MASTERPIECE.*
*And he was goddamn right*
Mick Gordon at the zoo: "That lion sounds a whole lot like a guitar"
Mick Gordon during an explosion: it’s beautiful
The true testament to Mick's work is every time you played a clip of the songs I'm wondering "Why aren't I ripping and tearing right now? Why am I watching this?" It was genuinely difficult to keep watching this video after a while to no fault of any part of the video itself. Music too good.
"im not a rock fan but"
- Everyone
But I am a metal fan.
Know your difference
@@1_visje34 I don't know the difference, please explain
@@1_visje34 ikr, we chill out to this...
@@lunastar2235 Metal is technically a form of Rock music, though it has branched away enough that it's considered its own style and has many sub-genre styles throughout, much like Rock does. A lot of people think "Classic" Rock is a genre, but really it can cover a vast scope of different kinds of Rock from over many decades, and many styles overlap like Album Rock and Psychedelic Rock that started in the late 60s. Bands like "Pink Floyd", "Led Zeppelin", and "Grateful Dead" all play Rock music, though their styles often vary from album to album (which is not unusual for bands with long careers). Technically, Rock gets blurry, as Country is sort of a hybrid of Folk and Rock, and Pop is an offshoot of Rock that has morphed into its own thing, and is basically mostly vocal-heavy, electronic Dicso/House these days (and is essentially a commercially industrial product of Big Media).
If you want to hear a band that epitomizes Rock, but defies convention, check out "Sonic Youth"
Basically Metal is heavier and harder than Rock, that's why it's called Heavy Metal. Metal is often brutal or even Satanic, but it doesn't have to be, sometimes it's just about fantasy, like Lord of the Rings. Rock can be hard, that's why there's Hard Rock, but there is also Soft Rock. There is Southern Rock, and there is Southern Metal, but the closest thing to "soft" Metal would possibly be Power Metal, which is kind of like the 'Pop' of Metal, lots of ballads and stuff. There is also Ambient Metal/Stoner Metal which are also referred to as Doom (no relation to the game, technically in conveys the mood of the sound), and they all tend to drone and chug, but sometimes will build up to a crescendo, much like Post-Metal. There is also Post-Rock which does a similar thing, basically it rolls before it rocks, with classical song structures and often orchestral instruments.
I couldn't recommend a band that epitomizes Metal, but I suppose most Metalheads would point to "Iron Maiden", early "Metallica", or even "Slayer", and probably "Judas Priest" as like the 'first' Metal band I guess, but people argue about that sometimes like it matters a whole lot.
Random assortment of example bands just from my immediate memory, can post links if you want:
Post-Rock- "Godspeed You Black Emperor!", "Explosions in the Sky", "Do Make Say Think", "Mogwai", "Sigur Ros"
Power Metal- "Manowar" (classic power metal), "Dragonforce" (faster, poppy power metal), "3 Inches of Blood" (more savage power metal)
Progressive Death Metal- "Opeth" (lots of analogue/classical instrumentation, long-form songs), "Fallujah" (lots of ambience, synths, and female vocalization)
Tech Death (Technical Death Metal)- "Vale of Pnath", "Irreversible Mechanism", "The Zenith Passage" (all of these bands hit hard, fast, brutally, and with excellent technical proficiency)
Despite what Liam seems to believe and is conveying in this video, there are quite a few Metal and/or Industrial bands out there that have achieved a very similar sound to that found in the latest Doom games, years ago. I can't name any of them off hand, but if you want to hear a band that does it more electronically, check out "Noisia" (also, they did the soundtrack for a recent Devil May Cry game too)
“Deafening silence”
Mick- “I can use that for a song”
Horror games: *don't mind if I do*
Imagine hearing doom music in silen hills or animal crossing
Ah yes, My favorite instrument, *Lawnmower*
PFFFFFFFFFHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAA
*laughs in Seth Everman's Toilet*
Right up there with Tchaikovsky's cannons.
Ah, yes.
*Chainsaw*
Ultimate Avenger ah yes my favorite instrument, chainsaw through a synthesizer
Imagine when the doom eternal concert continues and mick just brings out a lawnmower and a chainsaw out of nowhere
"Im jamming out to fucking power tools" im dying lmao
Doomslayer: "Call the ambulance"
"Rip & tear" starts blasting in the background
Doomslayer: "BUT NOT FOR ME"
Actually, this can be used in every situation.
School bully? Check.
Action movie? Check.
Playing other games, like Mario Kart? Check.
Watering plants? Check.
Eating dino nuggets? Check.
Sleeping? Check.
There wont be anything left for the Ambulance when the doomslayer was present
@@the_spartan1785 Except a puddle
I also made this discovery in the track "Hell On Earth" and all subsequent riffs, it's in 5/4 (like the points of a pentagram) but also, if you take the notes (D, D#, C#, E, C) and put them on the circle of fifths, you also get a pentagram. When asked, he confirmed it to me on twitter.
That is an awesome fact, thanks for telling us :D
I like the intelligence in the track. Karens would reverse metal songs in the 80s to try and find hidden satanic messages, but now you need to correlate the riffs
@@juanjoyaborja.3054 Mick recorded someone saying "Jesus loves you", reversed it, and threw it into one of the songs iirc.
@@kieran.grant_ Oh wow never mind
@@kieran.grant_ But you also have to turn it to mono audio. Theres also a few songs where he hid images in the sound, I know, it sounds weird, but I'll explain it (unless you already know).
If you put sounds through Audacity, then change the form of the audio to Spectrogram, all you'll see is just a sloppy orangey red-ish purple-ish blue-ish green-ish wall. But, some songs in the Doom Eternal and just Doom soundtracks have secret messages that show up when you put the songs through the Spectrogram. I remember one, I think from Doom 2016 that had pentagons in it. Fucking crazy
That part at 45:45 might be my favorite part of the entire soundtrack. It’s so good and I can’t begin to explain the sheer amount of dopamine that my brain produces listening to it
@@GaMeSDST Cultist Base is the OST
I'm pretty bad at DOOM but the music honestly makes me feel like I do this level no matter how mad I get or keep dying at the hard stage with no checkpoint but ya I agree
same
I can imagine DOOM's music playing on a radio in 60 years
Aint gonna be the case, record labels wont allow it.
@@notoriusdrifter40 Who knows, maybe 60 years from now will be some utopia where we can listen to some bomb ass music on the radio.
I would lose my shit I that happened
That cool
Istg if id be radio person it be teusday doom day
ID Software: *No Guitars*
Mick Gordon: How bout I do anyway
Hey we could make a religion out of this
@@sircaballero yes, do
@@sircaballero I think there might be one somewhere
Bethesda and Id: No guitars Mick.
Mick Gordon, jamming on his nine string: Sorry what? Kinda in the middle of something.
@@jakejohnson718 the same
27:48 The fact that Mick had the balls to include the Gachi scream in the soundtrack just shows how good of a composer he is. Unlimited by convention, he excels in his element. The scream symbolizing the sheer terror and pain the doom slayer is experiencing.
God I wish this were true
For anyone interested, apart from butchering demons, Mick's soundtrack is also PERFECT for lifting heavy shit in the gym. Ever since I discovered Doom's music it has been a staple in my workout music and I have to say, it never fails to give me the extra oomph that I need. And everytime I put this on for the first time on a fellow gym rat, their expression of shock and approval makes me all warm and fuzzy inside. What a genius Mr Gordon is!
It's like dry-scooping a whole container of pre-workout. I've hit so many PRs to it I've lost track at this point
@@caseypayne5138 couldn't have said better. Doom music and gainz go together like peanut butter and jelly
You’re really going to talk about _Doom Eternal’s_ musical references to previous games without mentioning the title theme being the Icon of Sin’s theme from _Doom 2??_
Seriously, I was waiting for it
@@tristen9736 same
Wasn’t it also in Plutonia?
@@bluefiregaming6565 yea
ان ورع اقسم بلااه لا اوريك عشان DEVLOVR
Mick Gordon:
Electric toothbrush: (is on)
Mick Gordon: INSTRUMENT
Fun fact: there is a channel on youtube who does songs with electric toothbrushes
@@SilverGamingFI i know its actually pretty cool right ?
Don’t give him ideas
*turns on car*
" F E R B I K N O W W H A T W E A R E G O I N G T O D O T O D A Y"
Ah yes my 2 favorite yet similar genres unadulterated anger & merciless violence
I remember when I first heard mick Gordon’s work on doom. Being a big fan of djent and that sub genre as well as a fun of video games made it the perfect amalgamation of fun
"he (mick gordon) is an essential part of these games"
*cries cus he and bethesda are not in good terms*
Its a shame that its Mack's fault they are at fault... his music is so amazing during the game (never heard him before eternal)
@Blank Slot yup. Both sides are on the fault, but Mick unable to fix it was the prime reason for why the soundtrack became that messed up.
@@TheBrosSkate If you're heard Static Car from NFS World, that's his work also.
@Blank Slot How was Bethesda to blame? Mick was given extensions upon extensions and didn't deliver. The guys did their best with pressed time and did what they could with work that wasn't theirs. How are both at fault if Mick was the prime reason for the delay and departure?
@@xFluing thanks ill check it out
34:11 Best sentence in this video “dude I am jamming out to fking power tools, what is life”
Its perfect-
A beautiful life, that's what.
Couldn't stop laughing
I'm pretty sure that Meshuggah (p.e. "Demiurge), Vildhjarta ("Dagger"), Periphery ("Icarus Lives") and Modern Day Babylon ("Astral Storm") were Mick's main inspirations. The fact that Mick chose Matt Halpern of Periphery as drummer for his live performance, shows, that this guy really knows the Djent genre.
He got Fredrik Thordendal from Meshuggah on the track Herr Faust on Wolfenstein TNO, so he for sure knows what's up
Vsauce2: Is a drill music?
Mick Gordon: Yes
Mick Gordon: uses a lawnmower as an instrument
Me: "theirs no stopping this man from making the whole world he's instrument"
Musicman 2
Make the world your instrument
I swear someone needs to use a Ps4 fan
just like in the 1812 overture they used a cannon as an instrument. Cannons, Chainsaws, and Lawnmowers. My favorite instruments.
@@kappnk9821 I knew that was going to be a comment seeing that cause it’s literally the same except from instrument
Something: Makes sound
Mick Gordon: I can make music with you
he could probably use a massive fart to make music ngl
@@itzsharkshotz2542 wtf would he do with that? XD
@@peeteee I mean he made music using a fucking lawnmower and chainsaw so I guess he could make a god music out of that
I can play you
@@peeteee he'd probably make it sound like another guitar. That or something like the lawnmower in All They Fear Is You.
The vocals from Eric Holloway aren't just a low voice, he's using Mongolian throat singing techniques to restrict his vocal cords and get them to vibrate at a fraction of their normal frequency. His voice is still deep, but I think it's also important to appreciate the technique behind it.
Sadly iirc Eric was the one that passed away after recording but before the game launched :(
Eric Holloway is very much alive. He posts regularly on TikTok and TH-cam shorts, and he also sung in a cover of “hoist the colors”. The thing is: he isn’t using any throat bass or subharmonics… that’s his real voice. He is something known as an Octavist: his natural speaking voice is a whole octave lower than a normal bass voice. He can hit E1 with ease
Mick Gordon isn’t just good at metal. His work on Prey 2017 was also incredible, but much slower and focused on tension/unease. Man’s got skill
Bethesda: We don't want guitars, ok, Mick?
Mick:...
Bethesda: Miiiiiiick?
Mick:..
Bethesda: Mick no!
Mick: guitar go brrr
Don't mix up id Software with Bethesda, Bethesda was the ones who tried to give this restriction
@@cronchtm4900 oh ok, i'll fix it
You mean "lawnmower go brrr"
Another thing he did is they'd show him gameplay footage of a level and he'd measure his heart rate and base the bpm of the song off how the gameplay of that area personally affected him.
bro that’s so cool
Mick is a god with an iq of 1000000000 and you can’t argue
BFG Division is one of the best metal compositions to have graced a soundtrack. The pure adrenaline that it gives to go with the action is one of the most unique gameplay experiences in any game so far and it absolutely takes control of the player & makes them make different decisions than they normally would due to sheer confidence
I loved music so much, the depth of this literally made me cry
you know the music for a game is perfectly matched when listening to the music makes you want to play the game, and when playing the game makes you want to listen to the music. Not many games have music like that.
YES!
I had to stop the vid at min 28 play some doom, then come back to watch it to the end lol.
Tbh this Always Happens to me with the secunda OST from Skyrim too
can i list the games with that category
haha no choice
List of games:
OMORI
all Doom games (obviously)
maybe Grimm's Hollow
thats all
I can’t be the only one who had an evil smile every and any time a track started playing... right?
I smiled so much, I cramped my cheeks
No you weren't friend. No you weren't.
Rip and Tear.
ALEJANDRO ENRIQUEZ damn straight brother, RIP AND TEAR🤘
EnderDude124 KAR EN TUK fellow slayer🤘
Got me there, not gonna lie
29:47 instantly recognized the iconic melody with the overwhelming brass bass i loved in doom 2 map 30 icon of sin (the level where you meet the head of john romero). Remember this level let the character stay in the fore-room to enjoy this masterpiece of scary whistleling.
Great video.
Being a metalhead who heard this soundtrack when it came out, I was impressed at the type of metal mick chose to go with.
The types of riffs Mick wrote for this soundtrack are heavily associated with bands like Meshuggah and Periphery, progressive metal.
You'd think that something like Death or Black metal would be what would go into this soundtrack. So even when it came to finally incorporating guitars Mick was actually very original in his decisions.
"Doom Eternal" is my favorite main menu theme in all of gaming, nothing even comes close.
Same here. When i hear the first 4 notes i get goosebumps... still!
Fucking. Great.
not even the icon of sins theme from doom 2 comes close?
@@7drag0n cheeky, but it just hits so much harder now with the guitars, or are those chainsaws? impossible to tell with Gordon...
Somnus (the instrumental version) from FF15, Phantom and Royal Days from Persona 5, Skyrim’s main theme...
“A Chainsaw was the main instrument” *Australian intensifies*
If I wasn't already a longtime DOOM fan, hearing these tracks would have had me on it within minutes. One of the all time great OSTs. Great vid you a ill ninja
I respect THE HELL out of this video. Great editing and great everything.
Funny how right when people start making documentaries on DOOM’s ost, TH-cam nuked all OST Videos
Friend: "So, what kind of music Have you been listening too?"
Me: *Plays Vega Core*
Also friend: did you computer get COVID?
* your
@@GNParty I was about to edit the post, but then I read your name. You win this round...
@@demondton96
I haven't truly won until you correct your mistake.
@@demondton96 DONT LET THEM WIN!
@@demondton96 DON'T LET THEM WIN!
I'm getting goose bumps from every track man, Mick Gordon is such an amazing composer, he also worked with Bring Me The Horizon on POST HUMAN: Survival Horror, most prominently on Parasite Eve, and it is one of the best tracks off of that album
He also worked on a lot of Need for Speed games from the black box era
Basically Djent just made its way into doom. which has been around for years.
"But he did it with a chainsaw and lawnmower," a thing that people have been doing with various other tools and such for years... oh wait, I think the musical saw is well over a century old. Shoot, one of my favorite projects has a song with a friggin' blender solo in it... and on the next album, a leaf blower. They're called cLOUDDEAD, and what they made was basically art-house ambient hip-hop. One of the dudes who worked on it, Doseone, composed music for a couple games... like *Enter the Gungeon*
@@lazerhosen don’t forget the cannon (not canon with one n, cannon with two)
“Rip and tear until it is done”
Mick already having the chainsaw going:
THATS NOT WHAT I MEANT MICK PUT THE CHAI- w-w-hat are you doing?
I call the "Doom instrument," as you call it, the Gordon Synth.
I think that's a good name.
The digeridoom.
@@AlRoderick HA!
The Instrument of Doom.
The Doom Array.
Doom instrument wow what a badass name
The up-beat up segment of Cultist Base is assuredly the most mosh-worthy piece of video game music ever made. Idk wether to “hardcore dance” like back in 2006 or punch and kick things. Or both.
I’ve been saying for as long as I’ve played Doom, give or take fifteen years, that it’s my favorite rhythm game. In a way, Mick Gordon’s score is an encapsulation of that sentiment. Great video.
“You can’t just shoot a hole in the surface of Mars (make a chainsaw the primary instrument)”
New objective; shoot a hole in the surface of mars (make a chainsaw the primary instrument)
Make the BFG 10k the primary instrument (of destruction)
Alright, high bpm drums and nine-string representing you destroying a mean demon horde standing between you, a terrifying addition to your arsenal, and once again not giving any shits about Sam's opinion.
Doom "games" are just interactive, metal as hell music videos
You are not wrong... you fluffy genius
Yup
Both Doom and Mick Gordon somehow have the insane ability to make it to where anyone who listens to their music become a fan of Metal even if they never were prior to touching the games or their music. I wasn't a Metalhead in the slightest prior to playing Doom 2016 and Eternal, and while I still don't listen to Metal music a ton (The closest I get is with hard rock or music with small hints of Metal) both 2016 and Eternal's soundtracks have entered my regular playlist. I think that's part of what makes Mick, Levy, and Hulshult such incredible composers in how they can compose music that even people who aren't regular fans of the genre love! Not to mention their creativity with how they compose their music, Mick can turn a Home Depot into a fucking orchestra! Like what other composer will listen to a Lawnmower and be like "Ah yes, this will go perfectly with my metal music track". The man has my upmost respect, and while it's still sad that he and Id parted ways on such sour terms and I hope they can eventually rebuild that bridge, I think the music of Doom is in good hands with both David Levy and Andrew Hulshult at the helm now. It's composers like Mick and Andrew and their work that makes me love Video Game Music so fucking much!
Also I know its probably been pointed out a ton since this video came out but that whistle in the main theme for Doom Eternal is the same whistle used in the Icon of Sin boss fight from Doom II
29:44 The track's lead melody comes from the Doom II track "Opening to Hell". The song that plays before you fight the Icon of Sin.
Ah, yes. My favorite music genre: unfettered violence
Liam: "When I'm trying to sleep, I listen to some quiet peaceful music."
Me: *Doom Radio*
The video essay format is becoming overly prevalent on youtube these days, but this video is literally so well done and insightful, that I watched the whole 45 minutes without even checking once how much time was left in the video. As a musician, and gamer who absolutely loved Doom Eternal, this video taught me so much about the music of the franchise's past and showed what Mick Gordon brought to the table with the reboots. An absolutely phenomenal job with this sir! Not a minute was wasted with this (and there were a lot of those minutes!). Definitely look forward to more of your work.
You can’t just use a power tool to make a doom soundtrack - Samuel Hayden
Bethesda: no guitars
Mick gordon: *sniffs cocaine* okay. But what about a chainsaw
bethesda wasn't involved in the creative process
@@MinecraftDude1245peni Bethesda didn't let him use guitars.
@@WaterNeos No, Id Tech didn't.
@@MinecraftDude1245peni is didn't bethesda did
That isn’t cocaine that would be crack
"Then, the whistle comes back. With teeth." Somehow so cheesy yet so perfect
Doom in a nutshell
Dude just chopping wood with a normal axe:
Mick Gordon: YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, THIS IS LIT
Honestly... I don't even put the sfx on medium sometimes and I tend to focus more when it's quieter....
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO RIPPIN' AND TEARIN'!
*VOLUME TO THE MAX*