Ludwig Leaves Twitch!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 พ.ย. 2021
- Influenced by Dexerto - Former Twitch streamer Ludwig has decided to call it quits from the platform to take his talents to TH-cam Gaming - a decision that was based off of a coin flip. Now, Lud joins the likes of Valkyrae, Timthetatman, CourageJD, Dr Disrespect, Dr Lupo, and a ton more.
Best of luck on the move Lud!
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When he said “we wish you the best” it hurt me a little bit knowing that twitch is ok with people leaving and growing into a new platform. It is almost like growing up.
Nah more like a "we wish you the best(now please leave idc)"
they’re probably gonna end up being a p**n website with the way they’re going now
@@lincolnehret but with clothes 😐 and huge censorships
nah honestly twitch is ass
bans a guy for farting or accidentally dropping his goldfish and stuff like that
then proceeds to not ban pretty girls even if they commit a crime on stream
@@Bruh-ed5dg wait wait wait,hold on a fucking minute, if you aren't giving examples please give me a video/article about that to see the bs
“We wish you the best.” Even twitch knew they weren’t gonna last forever. Pretty humble
Edit: stop fighting over if it’s humble or not. It’s just my opinion, of course people have their own opinions
It may be humble but as a business it’s really ignorant Lud was one of the biggest streamers this year and to just pass that up and not attempt to keep him is why Twitch will fall someday.
@@blake2773 no twitch will fail cuz 90% of the staff are simps
It mayve humble but twitch is its own worst enemy. Not in a metaphorical sense but in a litteral sense. Since the fall of mixer twitch has no competition but the constant controversy over unfair bans and silencing creators and stripping them of their livelihood without warning will be it's downfall
Tbh these streamer seem so entitled sometimes, they have already won the loto by becoming a popular streamer. Which was only possible because of twitch.
So Why should twitch fight for these streamers that threaten to leave them. When twitch has literally handed them there entire career playing games and making millions.
Imagine if someone gave you your dream job, helped you make millions and all you had to do is follow a few rules and regulations.
And then you turn around and say, hey I know I only have this lifestyle and money because of you, But you should treat me better because I'm popular now.
Like doesn't that sound a bit entitled
Twitch doesn’t care they’ll just fill the spot and promote someone else. I’m really surprised and happy about how TH-cam is going after streaming even tho there’s definitely some tweaking that needs done
After TH-cam actually start taking shit seriously, Twitch would have a GIANT competitor. Twitch can do all these bad things because they know they're the most popular streaming site with barely any competitors. The only reason Twitch is successful rn is because TH-cam doesn't give a shit. But hey, let's just cross our fingers and hope Susan gets fired.
@@bayanihanzm.8326 Comments like this just don't make sense... It's not like TH-cam live streaming isn't doing well simply because twitch is. I see pretty big numbers on the live streams I watch and no, I'm not talking about Ludwig's streams so far lol I will say however they do need to improve live streaming in general for creators and the audience and also easier ways to find new people.
@@bayanihanzm.8326 Buddy, twitch is not a competitor to youtube anymore...
Just look at average viewership numbers, revenue (translates to budget) and overall brand recognition.
All they need to do is implement some more stream-centric features and Twitch dies cause streamers prefer YT on account of it paying more(outside of deals).
@@Parker_and_Dj I dunno. - maybe adding better emote setups but the way streaming is on TH-cam with the rewind ability is amazing xD the one big thing that would immediately make TH-cam win though is if they made it that if a TH-camr was streaming and you were watching one of their videos there’d be a bar under the video tell you that they’re live and take you to the stream
Watch ludwigs uncles video on Ludwig leaving I think his name on TH-cam is called atrioc? I might be wrong
Over the past year or two, twitch has been associated more to softcore porn and parasocial relationships than gaming while YT has a more discoverable, monetisable and "fair" scene.
I like how fair is quotes.
This! Omg, female twitch streamers can do absolutely nothing. Just exist and folks shower them with money..
@@romdom9406 I mean tbf, if all you mainly did was sit around and listen to Netflix while idiot guys paid you money that's not a bad deal
@@youtubeisstupid1952 makes you think bout how the world works right.. what people truly want and shit
@@romdom9406 i mean shit i wouldn't complain if i did that but if someone else did it big diff so a double edged sword to that, become rich easy and join the thot side or keep grinding
This will be a good move for Lud!! This dude is super smart and knows Twitch is going downhill…. TH-cam is way less toxic and will be forever growing!!
Hmmm im just going to say DISLIKES
TH-cam is ruining their site day by day
@@tedison7123 yessss
@@tedison7123 the like button counter is gone, that still doesn’t make sense to me, with the subscriber counter they just rounded but nope it’s just gone now
The dislike counter is such a dumb argument when comparing the platforms!! I agree that TH-cam shouldn’t have changed that feature but Twitch doesn’t even have an option like that!! You can “heart” a stream or vod… so you guys are trying to say TH-cam is ruining their site but twitch doesn’t have any of those features to begin with?? Hahaha
I wish I could cry hearing this, twitch knew he was probably gonna go, so they gave up and just said "we wish you the best"
It's that they just didn't care, not that they knew he wasn't going to negotiate
@@wavelength0123 They were being nice about it, clearly you don't know what being nice is.
Yea sure Twitch is a stupid company with their sexist bull shit situations. But they were still nice about it.
Did you expect them to flip out on Ludwig and say he'll regret his decision and calling him retarded or some shit? Is that what you expected them to have said?
@@OofGP no, and I never said they weren't being nice.
@@OofGP he... didn't say they were being mean?
@@wavelength0123 for real. If Twitch cared he'd get at least a thank you for giving them the most successful month in their entire history.
I don't watch him but I'm happy for him. YT has its problems but twitch just seems like a corrupt platform to me
Especially when staff members start to simp for their content creators
Honestly I would say both platforms are corrupt to me
People fail to realize twitch is bias af and it’s rlly hard as a small streamer on twitch to even get views yet blow up while on TH-cam is less bias and easier to get views
i’m affiliate on twitch. before i went affiliate i had 13 average viewers i signed up, i now have 1.8 average. my notis don’t go out. they did before i signed up. my steam doesn’t show up on the pages like i used to
@Strine bro one guy got 1k+ views showing a pumpkin
@@Key.sttahh that was a video though right? And 1k is not a lot
@Strine twitch has no discoverablity. There is quite literally no way to find a small streamer without looking for them
@@MorrisseyFr nah there is a way to be shown from twitch but u have to be streaming for like 10 hrs to get actually discovered which is pretty hard to do unless your unemployed
I swear TH-cam actually will start being the prime streaming platform in the next couple years
I like watching TH-cam videos so streams on TH-cam are more convenient for me to watch
Twitch streams lag me a bunch so I just watch youtube streams
Petition to replace shorts with streams
@@mers800 yeah that happens to me too,
Nah, youtube needs competitors ASAP, youtube is basically a monopoly in longer lengdth videos
Why would twitch do anything else? He can decide what works best for him and move wherever he wants
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This just gives vibes of "I wasn't serious about breaking up with you, fight for me!".
Lud in the begging was breaking some good moves 🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵
According to another reply “TH-cam fought to have him”.
Huh i feel like "we wish you the best" was more of like a "its your life, your decision, your free to do whatever you want" not like a "we dont care, but good luck"
But i wasnt there when Ludwig asked so who knows what tone they used.
It’s in contrast to how TH-cam responded, when he said he was going to stay at twitch, they really wanted him they offered even more money and less hours of work giving him more time to do other projects that aren’t streaming
@@cadenbrown8985 ohhh i see
Well it's just a excuse to move over to TH-cam cause how twitch is bleeding money and is becoming only fans live it is most likely to live longer
If you told that to your parent or teacher.. I don't think that's the respond you want to hear :p mean or not, showing some respect and appreciation is what someone wants sometimes
@@ayuniaot well sh!t i guess my parents is the worst then
So they respected his decision, even though it would be very beneficial for him to stay there. That seems good?
I'm assuming that TH-cam actually fought to try and convince him while twitch just said "Oh well good luck" even though he is one of their highest ranked creators
@@landr9391 So, if someone decides to leave a company then a company saying we wish you the best is bad and they need to suck him off? Got it.
I mean, you can't really expect them to beg for you to stay, they are a company with millions of people streaming imagine if they had to beg for everyone, a partnership where you stay because they have to continuously up the pay to make you stay is detrimental to them
That's called business and knowing who's the best
when the 6th biggest creator and the fastest growing one leaves obviously they should. there aren't that many top level streamers and they are the ones who make up majority of twitch's watchtime
Well they absolutely should of as Ludwig is raking in an insane amount of revenue for twitch, when you lose an asset that huge you should beg. He is a one of a kind money maker and they did nothing to keep him. L opinion
Lol I think u guys overestimate ludwigs avg viewership he only blew up cus the subathon thing so it rises then declined back to 20k avg which is a needle drop In twitch’s viewership
"We wish you the best." Hits different.
Nice I’m kinda glad he moved
Why, TH-cam sucks as a streaming platform
@@jack04091 eh still better than simp city.
@@jack04091 Better than the shit show that is twitch at the moment. TH-cam isn’t good for streaming, but it is at least less bias and he can make more money from advertisements and sponsors as more people will probably watch the videos/streams.
@@jack04091 they’re actively and consistently adding new features based on streamer input, twitch hasn’t added basic features streamers have been begging for, for years
Good Twitch is a dying platform. Its a fact and its inevitable. When they did the Doc dirty they killed thier platform.
It’s good that it’s dying twitch is a horrible platform that is ran by simps and mods that ban people without reason and don’t care about you unless you make lots of cash
The response for twitch was normal to me they ain’t say nothing bad
Twitch knows they aren’t gonna bring you back, so they said “we wish you the best”
Twitch is like a kindergarten teacher, they make you grow to the point when you can pass to the next place
Soooooo he didn’t make the biggest choice of his life with a coin flip
He's a very intelligent man bringing it to both companies to see how they'd react. Twitchs attitude of "we wish you the best" shows they don't care about or are willing to fight for the creators and influencers that use their platform. All twitch cares about is the money coming in and even when one of their biggest money makers says they're leaving they already earn more than enough money to give any kind of shit because money is all they care about
Twitch is all about money? Have you even looked at youtube?! 🤣 With all the content farms that but severely dangerous stuff out there where many people already got hurt by and youtube doing nothing....man idk who is more money hungry. Like I'm not defending twitch just saying youtube is pretty disgusting in regard to the content that is being willingly put here just for moneys sake.
If twitch said: "No, we want you to stay", then everyone would be saying they are money hungry and that they don't repect their creator's decisions. But if they say: Yeah we support your decision", they are money hungry too because they don't fight for their creators???
Twitch is going downhill fast and they know it so they're not gonna kept anyone attached to the platform
@@atIXO. no matter what if we're being honest it's business they do this for the money
And I'm surprised how people are still surprised when a company do something to keep itself alive
No hate towards you btw I'm just sayin
@@genshaw6794 agreed. But imo there is nothing wrong with a company wanting to earn money.
more than likely he had these conversations with both companies and to seem “spontaneous” staged the coin flip
he’s leaving twitch because they said “we wish you the best” bruh wtf were they supposed to say?
“NO PLEASE STAY WE LOVE YOU!”
Dude was one of the fastest growing streamer.. that means, he was contributing to twitch a lot too.. youtube tried to fight for him, but twitch didn't.. that's what made him upset..
He was one of the biggest twitch streamers and Twitch could've fought for him but they just went on as if nothing happened.
After being a twitch partner for a long time seeing that they just didn't care must've hurt
@@resof yea but it’s shitty to try and make someone stay with you even when they don’t want to. It’s not that Twitch didn’t care it’s that Twitch wasn’t forceful
@@caxolog (as twitch removes Ludwig from twitch rewind)
@@caxolog this isn't like a romantic relationship lmfao obviously a business should try to convince someone to stay with the company if they make them money
“Ludwig just made the biggest choice of his life with a coin flip”
Sounds like the most Ludwig thing ever.
“The biggest choice of his life” WHAYTTTT YOU HAVE TO BE JOKING
Honestly when is it gonna get to a point where streamers are going to have to really step up their game as in of course twitch is not going to sit there and ask for him to stay because I got other streamers like him they’re all a diamond dozen not throwing Shade just stating the facts no different than a lot of us for the actual jobs but honestly I wish the guy a lot of luck And I hope he will become successful on TH-cam
Saying is a dime a dozen. Meaning Clos to worthless. Lol you said complete opposite
Hes alr successful. He left cuz twitch is biased and they dont treat people right.
Twitch is so humble the way they said that
A coin flip shouldn’t dictate a decision. A coin flip should be the guide to the decision. Because once the coin is in the air, you realize which side you want it to land on.
Sounds like he made the choice with his brain rather than the coin.
That smooth repeat tho
These shorts are so entertaining they make my day 💙
"...Not in this car" PepeLaugh
Worked in reverse for Jerma
They be like "boi BYE"
Technoblade: *ah you see, I’m ten steps ahead*
Well what did TH-cam say?
They fought to have him
@@chester9033 oh makes sense, that's honestly what I thought just unsure. Thank you!
I would’ve stayed with twitch just because of that, they recognized the fact he had made up his mind and appreciated the time he spent with them and how they helped each other grow and wished him farewell and a good luck that feels more sincere than youtube trying to change his mind and bribe him.
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"bribe him" lmfao
This comment sounds hella naive. Twitch and TH-cam are corporations, there is no sincerity to this. Twitch actually has a reputation for not giving a shit about its streamers. And bribery? It’s a basic business contract 💀
This is the issue no offense, a lot of people think that twitch is more sincere than TH-cam when really they are both companies. You should really watch Ludwig’s video interview with stanz about it to see how cold and uncaring twitch was to him. When the TH-cam team would make a deal and splurge cause they knew how valuable he is. Twitch was suuuuuuuuper bad to Ludwig for anything he tried to do.
What was wrong with twitch’s response? Whyd that make him leave? Not sure what he wanted them to say.
ig he wanted them to beg for him or something lol idk
@@etn they are a company. If he was really expecting that then he’s pretty full of him self lol
Twitch literally just letting their biggest streamers go out of pure greed.
would you rather twitch pulls out a leach🤣🤣🤣
My favorite part is the part where we still don't know what happened
Idk if you guys heard but in Twitch Turkey some streamers started donating themselves bits whit stolen credit cards but twitch does nothing abaut it so some pretty big names decided to leave twitch. Twitch is going bank robed soon.
I would have gone with the company that respect my decision
Honestly this is how i decide things
I flip a coin, and i see if what i really wanted to do
Tf he expected from them to beg him not to go?
Twitch is just fed up of people starting on twitch then leaving once then have a subscriber/follower count big enough to do the switch..
Anyone can start streaming on twitch but it is somewhat harder to start streaming on TH-cam.
As you don’t need a pc for twitch streaming but you need a pc for TH-cam streaming.
Imagine if Twitch said: Why not mixer
How did the companies react? Did you make this video only to see if you could make a loop and not actually to say anything?
yeah youtube fought for him
they didnt want him to go
Tommyinnit is gonna be going after him in approximately 84 minutes and 56 seconds
Twitch may be on its way out ngl, slowly but surely
“Biggest choice of his life”
Imagine being the recruter that lost him going to twitch from not caring
Pepper pains guy gone PogU
“the biggest choice of his life”
He chose the right side! We have cookies!!
😂😂😂😂 Definition of “you’re not that guy?
Just happy he is still streaming
Thats dope,youtube streaming is great. Love the vods always saving and the whole ecosystem
Twitch didn’t even appreciate Ludwig!
it looks like a parent supporting his child decision on which parent to live with
"Yeah ok"
What font is that?
i would really love it if i saw that dance again
A smart move after the whole ninja controversy
The perfect loop doesn’t exi-
lol I’ve heard this loopike 20 times now looking at comments
The perfect loop doesn’t exi-
He wanted twitch to take him out on a date
twitch aint no simp 💀
Idk how people watch commentary guys so much, rather watch a skilled gamer
Yeah that was a very good decision considering the contrast in cooperation
Really good way of doing it. He made the right choice I think with TH-cam
Funnily enough Ludwig has gotten banned 3 times mid stream.
The thing is it's not actually a ban. TH-cam has an algorithm, it detects content that's protected and then shuts off the stream. I guess they could add him to a white list or something but that's for youtube and ludwig to talk about.
It such a wholesome thing I wanted to hear the reaction TH-cam would have made if lud went to twitch
They reacted by improving their offer.
I Commend both twitch and youtube on how to deal with this kind of people.
TH-cam is getting better too, he made the right choice
Just like any other job. Everyone can be replaced. No one is special, no matter how much someone may think they are.
I mean, this isn't about an ego, it's the fact that Twitch quite literally does not give a shit that their most loyal and profitable streamer cares about their platform. Their greed is slowly losing them money, and TH-cam gave him actual recognition for his efforts, more money and less hours.
Then he gets banned on TH-cam 3 days later from playing baby shark song for like 3 seconds.
It wasn't baby shark. It was a music video that while the song is free to play, the video itself can't be on another channel.
Its alright,next month i'll bet you he'll be back🤣
"We wish you the best" would be the most neutral thing to say to people who wants to leave.
Twitch is killing themselves man
That’s why you gotta love twitch
At least he’s doing what he wants to do and what will make him happy 😃
okay, but what about the loop?
In the first 5 seconds I thought that it was gonna say that he became gay💀
There is more people on youtube than twitch which makes starting out harder.
There is less people on twitch which can be easier to gain more followers
So you do youtubr and twitch to get you're twitch viewers to youtube.
Sounds like my boss lmao
It is true. He made a good choice because you can make money with TH-cam fairly and the TH-cam itself makes money too.
Twitch time has come
I stopped searching for organs on Amazon to watch this video
Imagine not cutting deals with ludwig to keep him but rhey make deals with hottub steamers.
If anyone sees someone dancing like this, you are allowed to punch said person in the throat
And what did TH-cam say....
imo, youtube streaming stuff is better. You can rewind some stuff you missed, the donation goes to creator 100% or sumn, and somehow it feels snappier even though the interface needs bit improvement
That’s only if a creator is donating the money directly to a nonprofit organization. It will be 100% of the donation and TH-cam will cover the transaction fee as well. If the money is for the creator then TH-cam will take 30% of the donation.
I respect twitch for that 🥶
TH-cam is trying to expand their livestream market both platforms have there pros and cons and both can be a nightmare to deal with given Twitchs history of banning people and TH-cams copyright system and the utter disregard of communities openion
I don't even watch twitch yet I feel bad he's leaving
Awe that’s kinda cut how they said we wish you the best