I unfortunately got shafted for Majin Vegeta, and being forced to face him every match makes the game so unenjoyable. He just does too much to the point that it is either you run him or you lose.
@@RobG2001 yeah but what happens if you were never around to get those characters? or just got shafted terribly when the banners comes back? it's literally just unplayable atp when im getting punished for idk playing the game?? esp almost all UMV players I run into are just insanely passive.
Not true in high rank it's impossible with those useless units only good one is treeku the other two units are two squishy meaning unreliable besides the counter they have nothing to them @@RobG2001
@@RobG2001 99% of viable reds die to green card+ult. Treeku is solid but UL UI and SSJ2 gohan are below the standards unless you have 10+stars on them. My 5star UI dies in 2,3 blasts and FSK is not much better. Both of them are abviously ult one shots and even though they can counter his counter they still made a mediocre tradeoff. His counter got him off a whole combo and your counter only neutralizes a single blue card.
@@RobG2001 hm and what happens when he just aoe u like he gains neutral and just wipes ur red away with his ult anyway. This rat is somehow worse than rathan at his peak with s17 combo.
alright calm down buddy. the meta now is definitely worse, but thats only because UMV AND Turles AND Treeku. UMV alone is definitely not as bad as Cryhan was in his prime.
the difference with ultrahan is that if you activated his counter you didnt die. you activate vegetas counter and your unit loses more than 50% hp this is why umv feels worse which he actually is. people are just grasping at straws defending majin vegeta cause its the first meta vegeta unit in this game's history lol
@@kingleeks2111 aight bro he’s by far the most annoying, broken , no skill unit . Any red character gets completely annihilated by him with his ULT, there’s absolutely nothing you can do against MV
@@kingleeks2111I think bro should know that in ultra gohan's time you could choose which character to sack if you activated his gauge but with this unit you don't have a choice most of the time which is just stupid and this character really is more annoying than ultra gohan in his prime, I really can't wait to see him get countered and destroyed in legends fest.
honestly i really love the rants and criticisms of the games that you talk about. it gives reassurance that im doing the correct thing to wait to play pvp until the game is in a better state rather than forcing myself to fight matches that go on forever and arent enjoyable to play. and this is coming from someone who has gotten shafted on nearly every banner so getting the "counters" to these characters just isn't a thing for me. the game is in a bad spot rn and people need to just accept that
@@Go-get-a-JobWhile I do believe Gohan completely pimp smacking all Foward Strike-Attacks and S17’s unmatched snowball effect was hellish, UMV completely punishing the entire team for landing a lock-in Ult on a Purple caught lacking + a Blast Counter gauge that procs through CC all while having Ultra Turles have rush control and a method of stealing ki, gaining health, Damn near all the matches are going to timer if you somehow survive. Though I may sound bias as I was running that demon GRN/RED/RED team myself 😭
I am inclined to agree because at least if people had Yamcha(probably not) he would completely bulldoze that team to a pretty unfair degree. No red character atm apart from maybe Gotenks is getting past Turles.
I have UMV, but i do not feel satisfied, i cannot feel the joy after the victory, i feel sorry for the opponent because just how unfair UMV is in the environment, i do not have fun using him, using him just represents a range of 70% to 80% victory, shameless and unfairness...
Majin Vegeta is not as much of a problem as the combo of Treeku and Turles. That combo started this all, they could have released any ultra and the team would have been treeku, turles and the new unit.
Yoooo this is literally exactly what I was thinking minus them you could actually finish a fight why is he hating on MV so hard his main complaint is bringing nothing new and they don’t and the matches lasting too long which is because of them but he keeps saying it’s because MV ish is annoying
@@capnuge7488 Exactly. Treeku is ulthan on steriods + he does so much annoying things in the background. Turles is our first Ultra Revive unit basically lol
I agree that Turles/Treeku is mainly at fault for the meta we have now but MV is definitely not a good addition outside of being a Vegeta unit. Multiple disrupts and a counter gauge that locks in and punishes the opponent on activation might be the most toxic mechanic we've been introduced to this year
@@corruptedhooman3268 it was only a matter of time before the Vegeta hate came 🤣🤣 all the broken nonsense in this game, Vegeta finally get a # 1 character and everyone loses it . Turles and Treeku make no sense nobody asked for or needed them they ruined the meta and somehow MV is the problem 🤔 not to mention how they were basically giving away Ultra Gogeta 4 copies I almost 14 stared him free and destroyed that was cool though I guess because it’s half Goku 😂
I am a VC fanatic and it's finally nice to have a character to help the tag compete and I will use him forever. He is pretty dumb but when is there not a dumb character in the meta. I'll take pain like this over characters like TreeKu and turles anyday.
The thing that makes Majin Vegeta so insane too is that he has like a TON of intangibles. He's increasing sub count by 5. He's inflicting a ton of bleed and recovery down. He's drawing a green with his blue when his gauge is full. He's nullifying destroy card effects. His buffs activate when he is FACED with an enemy not just when he enters the battlefield. He's overtuned in so many ways that he really didn't need to be
ever since ultra ui/ultra rathan dropped the power creep has been BEYOND insane. SURELY it's not intentional. because the power creep has gotten so bad to the point where it's hurting their revenue because why the hell would i even consider a rerun when every unit becomes irrelevant after the 6 month mark.
the difference between using him and not using him is actually crazy. I play casually and somehow have managed to get very high ranks because of him. Its like you mentioned in the video that sometimes i dont want to even switch with him and stay with him for 50-60 counts. He is just so opressive
You should start adding full commentary on these, I don’t just watch you for the gameplay, you’re better than everyone else I know and you’re unironically funny as hell.
They should have just made blue fusing gogeta a unique equip that keeps giving him strike cards that give+2 sub count each hit. until the opponent dies on only Majin vegeta characters.😊
16:25 UMV is the definition of toxicity right now I don't like fighting him or even using him in the match I would like, to use a unit that not hindered others moved used that unique gauge as bail out to escape the punish.
i do watch you to get good your point of views from a very dedicated player, as for the point that you raised, yes i got to 70 this seasson due to how long it was, MV also helps a lot because he carries too much if both players are of equal skill the one that has MV filters the other one, since he resets to neutral many times.
I like how now that vegeta is the newest best character, now the aoe green card and lockins are a problem. When ultimate Gohan came in with short animation blue card spam, ss2 Gohan came in with the same sort of pseudo lockin and aoe green card, they were soo fun. It is ironic when people were wanting a very powerful Vegeta character and now that he is as good as he is, now all those mechanics are a problem.
Gohans pseudo lock-in was on his green card, UMV litteraly gets that just by entering the field. Im glad we got a meta Vegeta but he has way too much snipe potential and his 3x blue card counter is just toxic asf
@@simonmathews9981 let's not forget that Gohan had the armour break blast cards. But people still used him and didn't complain. Now all of a sudden this is a big issue 😂
I honestly cant wait for Ultra MUI or Ultra beast to completely reduce this guy to fodder, i dont care if there worse to fight, but for a vegets unit to be this non fun to fight, idc, good riddance once hes gone
I use Majin Vegeta and I think he's a ton of fun. I'm not God Rank so it's probably because I don't see him paired too often with Tree of Might Goku or Turles who are the real problems when it comes to the team since Majin Vegeta doesn't usually make things go to timer with his Buu Saga team. Majin Vegeta is a really fun and good character, and we can finally have a good Vegeta unit, but he should've been released after Tree of Might GOku and Turles were starting to age, not when they were still the pinnacle of the game.
I personally do like Majin Vegeta as a character, so I like using him in pvp, but I would agree that I feel obligated to use him because of how good he is.
I'd say both. I use him because he's my favorite dragon ball character, and I've wanted a good solo Vegeta for so long. I also use him because he's one of the only units I have that's usable in pvp. He may be a smidge toxic tho
The treeku and turles combo is what started this stuff like they are so busted that you could make anyone you’re third unit even if they suck and you could still win 🙃
I'm not using MV because I'm forced to, I'm using him because in 6 years Vegeta got severely disrespected in Legends and MV in particular is my favorite Vegeta form. Sure he's boring to use but it's still Vegeta's time to shine in Legends, possibly the only chance he'll ever get.
How you feel about Majin Vegeta is the way I felt about using UG4 when he released. He was so mind numbingly broken that it took away some of the enjoyment from the game when I used him.
people who enjoy these new meta characters worked and had to just hope they would get even one copy of the character, unlike the mindset you have where you know youre getting the character and maxing it out. not knocking your effort or what you do, but not everyone guarantees the new character
We defo need more characters to be imune to aoe green Cards imo That’s what makes lf omega really good and super saiyan god Goku too its not a too broken mechanic yet it impacts the fight in a way to help you fight against characters like UMV
25:30 reminds me of the blue boys when they came out no-one rly used them because they were just boring, specially raiyu, every showcase he did he would put purple ssb vegeta in their spot lmao
goresh may not be #1 on the leaderboard but we all know nobody in this game is better than goresh. I mean the blue bros and SoH Trunk team revisit proves that this man went to TIMER against the second best team in the game as of current. he did lose that match but the fact that he went to timer goes to show that 90% of all players in this game are genuinely just carried by busted units
I think people that dislike your outlook on the game. Haven’t been playing for long. Me that’s been being playing since day one I can agree with most of goresh Opinion
The problem with these units is not they re toxic cause of their gimmick but how they are being used.UG4 and UMV in my opinion are offensive units and people use them like their green card is their best part.when I face an opponent who uses UMV like I do (offensively) the match doesn't last long for either of us.
Im even more nervous on how they’re gonna handle the counter for majin vegeta, id rather have a character that’s okay but heavily counters him, like how pikkon/gogeta did to janemba, rather than a insanely dominate character like super 17 did to UI goku
I'm having very much fun using Majin Vegeta cause I'm doing this with a Vegeta clan team with Super Vegeta rather than every other person running treeku, turles UMV combo.
I legit run somethin VERY similar to this comp. Since I don’t have Treeku im actually runnin Feetku but i don’t have Bardock Zenkaied so my bench is Zenkai SSJ2 Goku, EvoGeta, & OG Nameku. Team got me to my first god rank
People talk about ultra Vegeta 1. It's a first for Vegeta to actually be good and also assumable ultra 2. Turtles is much better in a 1v1 scenario versus Majin Vegeta 3. In my personal opinion turtle is better but yet he's just fine like let Vegeta have this second of Glory because it ain't coming back
we need more dragon ball protection and maybe immune to auto counter gauges like majin vegeta and ss4 gogeta when they fill their own gauge. for example land 3 cards and when the gauge activates you are immune to dragon ball destruction and nullify auto counter gauges for 5 timer counter or 10. then it resets.
I really agree with you this year it has been really boring and not fun even though the start of it was good with spirit bomb goku but now they are only dropping strong boring characters
From my experience the problem is not umv but I call it the green card meta and these stand still players with turles and gotanks which is a great character but these greens card spams is ridiculous and turles I dont understand why thay chosen to make him regain health instead of just being a tank and the comeback literally is a free combo and it sucks if the enemy gets the right cards its easily a 99+ combo instead thay should of just remove ki raise arts cost the vanish removal was just unnecessary and add that with characters who all remove buff effects and non cancelled endurance just sucks this meta is literally if you dont have these characters you lose and its atrocious and sickening
26:47 so I’ve been playing since 1st anniversary and I can honestly say never in my life have I been bored of a unit this much. Majin vegeta was also the reason I hit my first god rank and don’t feel proud abt it at all. The only thing that I can say was slightly fun abt majin was constantly drawing green cards out of luck and forcing so many forfeits because of it. Other than that he’s boring. He offers nothing new,just a broken ultra.
No sé de qué se quejan, cuando llegó GSS4 Ultra los free to play ya no tenían cristales y la mayoría no lo tuvieron. Era un meta en que si no tenías a GSS4 simplemente estabas muerto, y todo el que lo tenía lo llevaba.
PD: Tal vez la única queja *que puedo entender es que el reinado de Vegeta lleva mucho tiempo, podrían haber hecho la season como dice Goresh, de dos partes.
I think the only reason you'd use Majin Vegeta is because of his oppressive presence in the meta, not because he is genuinely fun. He is not "tightly designed" or "unique", he was just created to be a roadblock and it disrupts the flow of every single match. I think this Legends Fest needs to reset this atrocious meta and make the game feel actually fun because the amount of options we are given as players is so limited that there is genuinely no point in using anything else besides 2 teams in order to even have a chance. You'd think with the character choices this year that it'd be an amazing year but it's turned into one of the worst in this game's history.
havent played much legends this season, only doing dailys, playing co-op instead of pvp, bc you cant enjoy the game with majin vegeta in every match, this is the first time since the fsk, future, and revival gohan meta where i just have no motivation to play the game
If they released an ultra or lf kefla bekive it would help fix many of the games teams since it would oppen the op teams where there is no putting in a goku or vageta
ultra rose absolutely ruined the meta, th whole meta was rock paper scissors, i had rose 10 stars and i still hated it, the constant paralysis, the green cards, the ultimates, combined with ugb, or even hero hercule
we need a character who has permanent card draw destruction protection, destroys blue cards when they get locked in and removes vanish, and is red. Also can tag and draws a strike card every time they do so, and when they fuse they get an ultimate that ignores buff removal. Pls make goku black and zamasu just like this toshi
@@wodahs2218 that guy was on crack when typing that out, bro mentioned ONE new mechanic lmao, that kit is literally umv 2.0, boring, unfun, and a terrible addition to the game
To answer the question that goresh asked in the video I would only use UMV (if I had him) not because I would have fun but because I haven’t pulled a new unit since S17 released and I want to take revenge on everyone who has exterminated me with the new units Edit: I also spent 60k cc on the anniversary and like 100euro and didn’t pull anything I took a break from the game for 2 months and now I open it from time to time to play some PvP.
The problem for me is just these characters that have the aspect of "plays the game for you" like Ulthan, UG4, UMV, these characters after a couple of weeks just become boring and annoying to fight because you have to worry about their gauge, what their cards can do, when they draw cards or get buffs or apply debuffs... so it just become obnoxious.
I think one way they can solve the timer meta they just to make units with assault chain except it’s actually good. These counter gauges whenever there meta (which is basically always the case) slow the game down into a unfun and boring experience. Or simply stop making counter gauges a thing. It’s boring, it’s unfun I can’t believe in a pvp game they would make a mechanic that rewards the player for losing the neutral.
Man the thing that i hate about the game right now that there is no team variations and if you want to rank you will have to use one team every one uses with the new units ,i hoped that in god rank they make alot of teams good like you can rank with future unirep fusion powerful opp
This team literally cannot be killed, stupid disrupt, counters, insane defenses. Crazy.
The GOAT, bt where are your edits?
@@gsplaysgui7710he just made a majin vegeta one it’s fire
I hate that meta😔
I hate facing this team
And sustainability too
I unfortunately got shafted for Majin Vegeta, and being forced to face him every match makes the game so unenjoyable. He just does too much to the point that it is either you run him or you lose.
Not quite if you have any viable reds, treeku, UL UI, or UL Gohan you can reliably counter or eat the blue from his guage
@@RobG2001 yeah but what happens if you were never around to get those characters? or just got shafted terribly when the banners comes back? it's literally just unplayable atp when im getting punished for idk playing the game?? esp almost all UMV players I run into are just insanely passive.
Not true in high rank it's impossible with those useless units only good one is treeku the other two units are two squishy meaning unreliable besides the counter they have nothing to them @@RobG2001
@@RobG2001 99% of viable reds die to green card+ult. Treeku is solid but UL UI and SSJ2 gohan are below the standards unless you have 10+stars on them. My 5star UI dies in 2,3 blasts and FSK is not much better. Both of them are abviously ult one shots and even though they can counter his counter they still made a mediocre tradeoff. His counter got him off a whole combo and your counter only neutralizes a single blue card.
@@RobG2001 hm and what happens when he just aoe u like he gains neutral and just wipes ur red away with his ult anyway. This rat is somehow worse than rathan at his peak with s17 combo.
11:47 Spongebob and Patrick hitting eachother over the head calling eachother Dirty Dan until Sandy woke up
I had the exact same thought
I genuinely hate Majin Vegeta more than Ultra Gohan when he was in his prime.
alright calm down buddy.
the meta now is definitely worse, but thats only because UMV AND Turles AND Treeku. UMV alone is definitely not as bad as Cryhan was in his prime.
He's definitely worse.
He's gohan on steroids @@kingleeks2111
the difference with ultrahan is that if you activated his counter you didnt die. you activate vegetas counter and your unit loses more than 50% hp
this is why umv feels worse which he actually is. people are just grasping at straws defending majin vegeta cause its the first meta vegeta unit in this game's history lol
@@kingleeks2111 aight bro he’s by far the most annoying, broken , no skill unit . Any red character gets completely annihilated by him with his ULT, there’s absolutely nothing you can do against MV
@@kingleeks2111I think bro should know that in ultra gohan's time you could choose which character to sack if you activated his gauge but with this unit you don't have a choice most of the time which is just stupid and this character really is more annoying than ultra gohan in his prime, I really can't wait to see him get countered and destroyed in legends fest.
Imo godku is the most fun unit to use out of the ones that came out from the anniversary till now
Absolutely I still run him to this day! I run him and treeku and umv my favorite setup
I would say gotenks and omega are up there too
honestly i really love the rants and criticisms of the games that you talk about. it gives reassurance that im doing the correct thing to wait to play pvp until the game is in a better state rather than forcing myself to fight matches that go on forever and arent enjoyable to play. and this is coming from someone who has gotten shafted on nearly every banner so getting the "counters" to these characters just isn't a thing for me. the game is in a bad spot rn and people need to just accept that
This team might be worse than the Gohan/S17/Cell combo 😭
Hell naw, that was defo worse
@@Go-get-a-JobWhile I do believe Gohan completely pimp smacking all Foward Strike-Attacks and S17’s unmatched snowball effect was hellish, UMV completely punishing the entire team for landing a lock-in Ult on a Purple caught lacking + a Blast Counter gauge that procs through CC all while having Ultra Turles have rush control and a method of stealing ki, gaining health, Damn near all the matches are going to timer if you somehow survive. Though I may sound bias as I was running that demon GRN/RED/RED team myself 😭
I am inclined to agree because at least if people had Yamcha(probably not) he would completely bulldoze that team to a pretty unfair degree. No red character atm apart from maybe Gotenks is getting past Turles.
I thought this was gonna be a 3 hour long video for how the matches goes with this team
We got what we wanted, guys... Vegeta is #1. What did it cost? Everything.
I have UMV, but i do not feel satisfied, i cannot feel the joy after the victory, i feel sorry for the opponent because just how unfair UMV is in the environment, i do not have fun using him, using him just represents a range of 70% to 80% victory, shameless and unfairness...
Majin Vegeta is not as much of a problem as the combo of Treeku and Turles. That combo started this all, they could have released any ultra and the team would have been treeku, turles and the new unit.
Yoooo this is literally exactly what I was thinking minus them you could actually finish a fight why is he hating on MV so hard his main complaint is bringing nothing new and they don’t and the matches lasting too long which is because of them but he keeps saying it’s because MV ish is annoying
@@capnuge7488 Exactly. Treeku is ulthan on steriods + he does so much annoying things in the background. Turles is our first Ultra Revive unit basically lol
I agree that Turles/Treeku is mainly at fault for the meta we have now but MV is definitely not a good addition outside of being a Vegeta unit. Multiple disrupts and a counter gauge that locks in and punishes the opponent on activation might be the most toxic mechanic we've been introduced to this year
@@simonmathews9981most toxic? No way when there's literally gogeta and Gohan who had worse gauges
@@corruptedhooman3268 it was only a matter of time before the Vegeta hate came 🤣🤣 all the broken nonsense in this game, Vegeta finally get a # 1 character and everyone loses it . Turles and Treeku make no sense nobody asked for or needed them they ruined the meta and somehow MV is the problem 🤔 not to mention how they were basically giving away Ultra Gogeta 4 copies I almost 14 stared him free and destroyed that was cool though I guess because it’s half Goku 😂
19:08 bro was talking about drip hank hill😭🙏🏾
I am a VC fanatic and it's finally nice to have a character to help the tag compete and I will use him forever. He is pretty dumb but when is there not a dumb character in the meta. I'll take pain like this over characters like TreeKu and turles anyday.
Lol by that logic
When have we ever had a good turles?
@tkay25 not referring to the characters but the kits and meta. I'm just not a fan of timer metas.
Goresh before UMV release: We finally got a top tier dominant Vegeta unit.
Goresh after UMV release: I don’t really enjoy using him.
The thing that makes Majin Vegeta so insane too is that he has like a TON of intangibles. He's increasing sub count by 5. He's inflicting a ton of bleed and recovery down. He's drawing a green with his blue when his gauge is full. He's nullifying destroy card effects. His buffs activate when he is FACED with an enemy not just when he enters the battlefield. He's overtuned in so many ways that he really didn't need to be
That's me at 27:39
I thought I played pretty well but obviously there were a couple misplays here and there
ever since ultra ui/ultra rathan dropped the power creep has been BEYOND insane. SURELY it's not intentional.
because the power creep has gotten so bad to the point where it's hurting their revenue because why the hell would i even consider a rerun when every unit becomes irrelevant after the 6 month mark.
the difference between using him and not using him is actually crazy. I play casually and somehow have managed to get very high ranks because of him. Its like you mentioned in the video that sometimes i dont want to even switch with him and stay with him for 50-60 counts. He is just so opressive
You should start adding full commentary on these, I don’t just watch you for the gameplay, you’re better than everyone else I know and you’re unironically funny as hell.
Umv will probably age just like ultra ssj2 gohan
Gohan doesn't cancel buffs and draw a blue on counter and heal😹
@tkay25 well thats powercreep, maybe umv gonna be powercreeped in the future
like a fu**ing maggot
@@piscajrthat's for sure
@@tkay25lock in ult easy cover null and type null stupid buff cancellation Good distrup
Man! I really love your top 10 videos. Especially the more interesting ones like Top 10 worst units or top 10 most annoying units
They should have just made blue fusing gogeta a unique equip that keeps giving him strike cards that give+2 sub count each hit. until the opponent dies on only Majin vegeta characters.😊
16:25 UMV is the definition of toxicity right now I don't like fighting him or even using him in the match I would like, to use a unit that not hindered others moved used that unique gauge as bail out to escape the punish.
i do watch you to get good your point of views from a very dedicated player, as for the point that you raised, yes i got to 70 this seasson due to how long it was, MV also helps a lot because he carries too much if both players are of equal skill the one that has MV filters the other one, since he resets to neutral many times.
I like how now that vegeta is the newest best character, now the aoe green card and lockins are a problem. When ultimate Gohan came in with short animation blue card spam, ss2 Gohan came in with the same sort of pseudo lockin and aoe green card, they were soo fun. It is ironic when people were wanting a very powerful Vegeta character and now that he is as good as he is, now all those mechanics are a problem.
His kit silly..
We don't hate the concept of Vegeta getting a new character
Gohans pseudo lock-in was on his green card, UMV litteraly gets that just by entering the field. Im glad we got a meta Vegeta but he has way too much snipe potential and his 3x blue card counter is just toxic asf
@@simonmathews9981 having such low arts cost and high card draw speed and combo potential
@@simonmathews9981 let's not forget that Gohan had the armour break blast cards. But people still used him and didn't complain. Now all of a sudden this is a big issue 😂
What?? Wth said SSJ2 was fun character and ult gohan is also dogshit to play it just Majin is even worse 💀
God rank grind me ~~~~~☺️☺️☺️☺️
Be there in 10
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I honestly cant wait for Ultra MUI or Ultra beast to completely reduce this guy to fodder, i dont care if there worse to fight, but for a vegets unit to be this non fun to fight, idc, good riddance once hes gone
day 3 asking goresh to marry me.
He don't u Lil bro
If you look like frieza then maybe.
Goresh may me despite enough to do so.
I now pronounce you husband and husband
@@JACQUEZ23 Hey pal, did you Just Blow in from stupid town?
I love timer metas because the single matches get more tense and skill based rather coin flip based, but that's just me I guess!
I use Majin Vegeta and I think he's a ton of fun. I'm not God Rank so it's probably because I don't see him paired too often with Tree of Might Goku or Turles who are the real problems when it comes to the team since Majin Vegeta doesn't usually make things go to timer with his Buu Saga team. Majin Vegeta is a really fun and good character, and we can finally have a good Vegeta unit, but he should've been released after Tree of Might GOku and Turles were starting to age, not when they were still the pinnacle of the game.
I personally do like Majin Vegeta as a character, so I like using him in pvp, but I would agree that I feel obligated to use him because of how good he is.
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Above BR65 you are guaranteed to face UMV , TURTLES OR TREEKU its just slug fest now
I'd say both. I use him because he's my favorite dragon ball character, and I've wanted a good solo Vegeta for so long. I also use him because he's one of the only units I have that's usable in pvp. He may be a smidge toxic tho
The treeku and turles combo is what started this stuff like they are so busted that you could make anyone you’re third unit even if they suck and you could still win 🙃
I remember when goresh used to play ost throughout his video
Can't wait for a Legends Fest that has uncancellable endurance nullification
47:43 El hermano no quiere perder 💀
Goresh is truly majin Vegeta in everything he wants to fight legends like Vegeta did for Goku (joke)
I remember people saying when they release UMV, they have to make him good, but they fumbled so hard because they made him the most hated
UMV is just like Ultra Janemba. If you have him you win matches with ease.
I'm actually having fun using UMV because I love to see one shot UG4 after I did not get him, and he's the reason I quite the game for 2 month
I'm not using MV because I'm forced to, I'm using him because in 6 years Vegeta got severely disrespected in Legends and MV in particular is my favorite Vegeta form.
Sure he's boring to use but it's still Vegeta's time to shine in Legends, possibly the only chance he'll ever get.
How you feel about Majin Vegeta is the way I felt about using UG4 when he released. He was so mind numbingly broken that it took away some of the enjoyment from the game when I used him.
We need an ultra goresh for legends fest where he gets naked upon main ability
Bro 💀💀💀
This is a fitting team for him to have when he's a 69x godly ranked player
Bro forget majin vegeta, turles is the real problem. He is defensively the craziest character we have seen so far.
people who enjoy these new meta characters worked and had to just hope they would get even one copy of the character, unlike the mindset you have where you know youre getting the character and maxing it out. not knocking your effort or what you do, but not everyone guarantees the new character
We defo need more characters to be imune to aoe green Cards imo That’s what makes lf omega really good and super saiyan god Goku too its not a too broken mechanic yet it impacts the fight in a way to help you fight against characters like UMV
Its alright mate, it will all change once the new units drop and fest starts 👍🏻
25:30 reminds me of the blue boys when they came out no-one rly used them because they were just boring, specially raiyu, every showcase he did he would put purple ssb vegeta in their spot lmao
Only good thing about Majin Vegeta is that we finally got a really good Vegeta.
That’s it, the only benefit 😂
goresh may not be #1 on the leaderboard but we all know nobody in this game is better than goresh. I mean the blue bros and SoH Trunk team revisit proves that this man went to TIMER against the second best team in the game as of current. he did lose that match but the fact that he went to timer goes to show that 90% of all players in this game are genuinely just carried by busted units
W grind, Gorfat, heh, got em again.
I think people that dislike your outlook on the game. Haven’t been playing for long. Me that’s been being playing since day one I can agree with most of goresh Opinion
The problem with these units is not they re toxic cause of their gimmick but how they are being used.UG4 and UMV in my opinion are offensive units and people use them like their green card is their best part.when I face an opponent who uses UMV like I do (offensively) the match doesn't last long for either of us.
i enjoy using umv because i love vegeta. i live the vegeta glazing lifestyle
Im even more nervous on how they’re gonna handle the counter for majin vegeta, id rather have a character that’s okay but heavily counters him, like how pikkon/gogeta did to janemba, rather than a insanely dominate character like super 17 did to UI goku
47:43 Toshi's Strongest UI goku player
I'm having very much fun using Majin Vegeta cause I'm doing this with a Vegeta clan team with Super Vegeta rather than every other person running treeku, turles UMV combo.
I legit run somethin VERY similar to this comp. Since I don’t have Treeku im actually runnin Feetku but i don’t have Bardock Zenkaied so my bench is Zenkai SSJ2 Goku, EvoGeta, & OG Nameku. Team got me to my first god rank
Feetku?
@ Zenkai Raditz fight Goku
Thank you for the negative commentator warning. It prepares me mentally
i agree with the main character statement, since i don’t have tre goku, i run, Ultra Majin vegeta, goku and bardock, and fusing gogeta blue
People talk about ultra Vegeta 1. It's a first for Vegeta to actually be good and also assumable ultra 2. Turtles is much better in a 1v1 scenario versus Majin Vegeta 3. In my personal opinion turtle is better but yet he's just fine like let Vegeta have this second of Glory because it ain't coming back
I think if UMV not does an aoe damage to opponent team with his ultimate, it would make him more balanced.
we need more dragon ball protection and maybe immune to auto counter gauges like majin vegeta and ss4 gogeta when they fill their own gauge. for example land 3 cards and when the gauge activates you are immune to dragon ball destruction and nullify auto counter gauges for 5 timer counter or 10. then it resets.
I really agree with you this year it has been really boring and not fun even though the start of it was good with spirit bomb goku but now they are only dropping strong boring characters
Even though this timer meta is cooked, I’m just happy I at least get to attack
ppl mad cuz vegeta finally has a top tier standalone unit
From my experience the problem is not umv but I call it the green card meta and these stand still players with turles and gotanks which is a great character but these greens card spams is ridiculous and turles I dont understand why thay chosen to make him regain health instead of just being a tank and the comeback literally is a free combo and it sucks if the enemy gets the right cards its easily a 99+ combo instead thay should of just remove ki raise arts cost the vanish removal was just unnecessary and add that with characters who all remove buff effects and non cancelled endurance just sucks this meta is literally if you dont have these characters you lose and its atrocious and sickening
I've been using ultra ss2 gohan in this meta, I haven't used him since he came out
I haven't played much this year. Being f2p I've had zero luck on any summons
26:47 so I’ve been playing since 1st anniversary and I can honestly say never in my life have I been bored of a unit this much. Majin vegeta was also the reason I hit my first god rank and don’t feel proud abt it at all. The only thing that I can say was slightly fun abt majin was constantly drawing green cards out of luck and forcing so many forfeits because of it. Other than that he’s boring. He offers nothing new,just a broken ultra.
No sé de qué se quejan, cuando llegó GSS4 Ultra los free to play ya no tenían cristales y la mayoría no lo tuvieron. Era un meta en que si no tenías a GSS4 simplemente estabas muerto, y todo el que lo tenía lo llevaba.
PD: Tal vez la única queja *que puedo entender es que el reinado de Vegeta lleva mucho tiempo, podrían haber hecho la season como dice Goresh, de dos partes.
I've gottem at 12 star and even i agree he is just broken sadly. It's insane.
I think the only reason you'd use Majin Vegeta is because of his oppressive presence in the meta, not because he is genuinely fun. He is not "tightly designed" or "unique", he was just created to be a roadblock and it disrupts the flow of every single match. I think this Legends Fest needs to reset this atrocious meta and make the game feel actually fun because the amount of options we are given as players is so limited that there is genuinely no point in using anything else besides 2 teams in order to even have a chance. You'd think with the character choices this year that it'd be an amazing year but it's turned into one of the worst in this game's history.
I wish goresh would dress up as Bulma in booty shorts
havent played much legends this season, only doing dailys, playing co-op instead of pvp, bc you cant enjoy the game with majin vegeta in every match, this is the first time since the fsk, future, and revival gohan meta where i just have no motivation to play the game
DAIMA GOD RANK GRIND WHEN??? 💪💪💪
If they released an ultra or lf kefla bekive it would help fix many of the games teams since it would oppen the op teams where there is no putting in a goku or vageta
Hey guys we're gonna jump into god rank grind Number seventy seventy...
Personally the most fun meta was when ultra rose was release
ultra rose absolutely ruined the meta, th whole meta was rock paper scissors, i had rose 10 stars and i still hated it, the constant paralysis, the green cards, the ultimates, combined with ugb, or even hero hercule
we need a character who has permanent card draw destruction protection, destroys blue cards when they get locked in and removes vanish, and is red. Also can tag and draws a strike card every time they do so, and when they fuse they get an ultimate that ignores buff removal. Pls make goku black and zamasu just like this toshi
Permanent card destruction immunity should never happen.
@@wodahs2218 that guy was on crack when typing that out, bro mentioned ONE new mechanic lmao, that kit is literally umv 2.0, boring, unfun, and a terrible addition to the game
yeah im.. im taking a break. peace. see yall during legendsfest
therapist: the gay team isnt real, it cant hurt you
the gay team:
To answer the question that goresh asked in the video I would only use UMV (if I had him) not because I would have fun but because I haven’t pulled a new unit since S17 released and I want to take revenge on everyone who has exterminated me with the new units
Edit: I also spent 60k cc on the anniversary and like 100euro and didn’t pull anything I took a break from the game for 2 months and now I open it from time to time to play some PvP.
12:50 is what happend to me with ug4 and then majin vegeta i just feel bad using those charecters
Crazy mechanic. what if they release a character that can combine cards.
The problem for me is just these characters that have the aspect of "plays the game for you" like Ulthan, UG4, UMV, these characters after a couple of weeks just become boring and annoying to fight because you have to worry about their gauge, what their cards can do, when they draw cards or get buffs or apply debuffs... so it just become obnoxious.
I think one way they can solve the timer meta they just to make units with assault chain except it’s actually good.
These counter gauges whenever there meta (which is basically always the case) slow the game down into a unfun and boring experience.
Or simply stop making counter gauges a thing. It’s boring, it’s unfun
I can’t believe in a pvp game they would make a mechanic that rewards the player for losing the neutral.
I have 18100 Rp Is That Enough For God Rank Before The Season Ends Or Should I Grind More ? Plz Anyone Answer
If you're dedicated then its always nice to grind just a bit more over due to last second grinders.
@alejandrovillalobos9474 okay
Day 1 of asking goresh to reveal the children he's hiding in his basement
i am boxed into using UMV, i have not pulled a unit since G4.... and that made it impossible for me to keep up and play.
Funny how my fav character is this close to make me want to stop playing the game all together
I’m scared for what legends fest will bring
i tried to use zenkai buu bros to grind some positions, yes i am a fool
I hope Legends Fest slams UMV to the ground, legit tired of units that enable auto pilot like he does.
Man the thing that i hate about the game right now that there is no team variations and if you want to rank you will have to use one team every one uses with the new units ,i hoped that in god rank they make alot of teams good like you can rank with future unirep fusion powerful opp
Goat
This team is so annoying to fight I almost lose every time I play against them
Goresh you promised that video with the gammas plat, we NEVER FORGET.