When do you feel safe? 🦺 Has anyone’s voice ever really irritated you without you being able to explain why? 🤐 Have you ever been attracted to someone or something you know isn't good for you? 🏍 Let us know in the comments!!
My dating motto at age 25: "If 'Nice Guys Finish Last'... Point Me to the End of the Line!!" 🤗🥰My motto by age 35: "Men... are highly over-rated creatures..."🤨 Motto-age 45: "If 'Men Are From Mars'... They should have just f*cking stayed there!"😜 Over 55+: Don't even bother asking me anymore!!😉
Theory of Bad Boy Attraction: (A) Depends on your family system dynamics w your father; (B) Depends on a woman's Creativity & Imagination abilities=she won't seek out stimulation/excitement/adrenal rush if she's the creative type/not easily bored; (C) Maybe seeking an "Alpha/Bad Boy" is just a survival mechanism/"If he can kick ass then (me/my offspring) will survive Clan of the Cave Bear? PS I married a quiet, soft-spoken, small stature guy... who turned out to be a well-disguised Bad 😈Boy to the Tenth Power... 🤦♀WARNING: Physical "Chemistry" is really just bad karma from a previous lifetime coming back to bite you in the ass...How else would the Universe get two mortal enemies to marry each other & procreate? PSS: My adrenals are bleeding...🤦♀
I am LOVING this guest and your interaction together. He is so clear and consciously present. Such a helpful and intelligent conversation. Thank you for what you bring to me and the world. So glad to have found you recently, and I am binge-watching back episodes like crazy.
If say that when you talk about the vagus nerve it's about safety which is awesome but it becomes more localized. Probably when you hear 'but' from the lucky people that get to be with you sissy
Bialik-san, I'm a 43 year old Japanese man. When I was a junior school student, I looked forward to watching the drama "Blossom" on TV every time. I loved you and your drama, so I was so sad when the drama finished. After a while, I was curious about you. At this time, I could find your channel on youtube, so I'm so happy to see you doing well and be able to express my feeling. I will continue to support you from Japan ! Sincerely, Ken.
Dr. Porges’ Polyvagal Theory has changed forever to me René Descartes' classic “I Think, Therefore I Am” for the most perfected one “I Feel, Therefore I Am”.. Another episode to watch in loops that goes to my selected ones list at my own “Corpus Doctrinae” along with Dr. Attia, Dr. Gabor Matté, Michel Singer, David Sinclair and Rabbi Steve Leder past ones!
I was very moved by the story of patients finding Dr. Porges a safe male to hug. As a woman with childhood trauma that has made me feel unsafe with males, that really touched me. Thank you for another important episode, MBB crew! ❤️🧠🤓
"Just stressed out"?????? "JUST" whenever I hear the word "just", I say, you're never "just" anything. Great conversation. I love you too❤and almost every guest you've had
PHENOMENAL episode…a master class on several topics !! Mayim’s ability to bring HIGHER science to an understandable level is a true gift. Thank you for continuing to bring guests that elevate our minds and souls. I’m grateful for all you and Jonathan and your team bring to the world. 💫💫
Despite me being intimidated to watch this video as it seemed to be a topic that would go over my head, this was very informative and digestible. And coming directly from the source and key figure in the field is such a treat. The way he explained things allowed me to understand even though I am a complete layman. *You have a wonderful podcast. I am glad you have the platform & fame to prop it up. You are doing the public such a service with these. As you are allowing them exposure to something they would not have otherwise or would but with misinformation. Thank you😄*
I would so give Dr. Porges a hug. What a kind soul. A client of mine shared this podcast with me because I taught her about the vagus nerve to help her understand why she responds certain ways when under stress or threat, so I was so excited to see this episode. I've been obsessed with the vagus nerve and other neuropsychological processes as it relates to my practice as a therapist because I am a big ol' science nerd who almost went to medical school. This discussion broadened my understanding, so thank you!! You wanna talk about co-regulation and safety, have someone on to talk about emotionally focused therapy. It's based on attachment theory and feelings of safety 🙂
Another great podcast sharing important information. Gabor Maté, Peter Levine and Stephen Porges are my top people and they've been able to share how important the mind, body and soul connection is in order to understand ourselves
Thanks for name dropping. I have enjoyed hearing Gabor Matt but don't recognize the name Peter Levine. I'll be looking for those when I finish this episode. I enjoy the depth of the interviews on breakdown even when they aren't as "learned", such terrific insights into so many topics. Ty Mayim and Jonathan
My first labor was in a hospital and it was long, painful, awful. So I chose a birth center for my second. While the center was beautifully designed, the people were judgmental, better-than, inaccessible, etc. The ultrasound tech was complaining about how bad their machine was. I felt sooo unsafe and honestly angry! I found a young and progressive OBGYN and chose a hospital birth, and it was fabulous! The environment isn’t nearly as important as the people!
I love how much Mayim cracks herself up in the afterward! Wonderful interview with this guest, & for the record, Jonathan’s voice always makes me safe. Amazing insight into the simplicity of just vocal intonation & how that makes such a difference. If reminds me of the William Hurt movie, The Patient, I believe. I would love to hear an episode of just this guest, Mayim, & Jonathan discussing that movie alone & how the vagus nerve impacts all involved in that movie.
This is profound! I am having to digest this episode in smaller portions because it is a lot of valuable information slightly above my pay grade ;) Literally blowing my mind lol!!!
FANTASTIC episode. I’ve studied and worked with some of the techniques that have emerged from Dr. Porges’ work, and this is a terrific conversation. (BTW in the Seinfeld episode, staying over was *optional*; it was calling the day after that was forbidden. Basically the same idea. Emotional intimacy was to be avoided.) And yes, Bessel Van Der Kolk would give you the trauma trifecta, or whatever.
When my son became paralyzed at age 6 due to a SCI from just a fall at home, his favorite days at rehab were when the therapy dogs came in! First smile I saw on his face was that day. He's 20, in college now and still paraplegic unfortunately, but he gets along great, but I still remember Joker and how he lifted his sprits!!
I am floored by this information how did my doctor not know about this!!!! I am a survivor of a very abusive 13 year marriage around the 8th year I started going to the hospital for severe abdominal pain they tested for gallbladder stones. They tested for kidney stones done all kinds of GI testings can never figure out what was going on with me. I am now going to do sam research into this because this would make sense as to why I get this severe pain and then I can't function in so many ways
Mayim, Jonathan, thanks for an engaging interview with Dr. Stephen Porges. One situation where safety is essential besides childbirth is dying. My wife of 20 years developed thymic carcinoma in 2005 and died after several years in 2011. In the last stretch the medical authorities in Thailand wanted her in the hospital, but we wanted her to pass at home, safe and protected. Home is a place of love. We worked, she and I, to give her, a “beautiful death” at home. So we kept her at home, provided all the pain relief possible through a volunteer nurse. She passed in my arms, safe, protected and loved. A most beautiful death.
I am currently reading Catherine Cookson's novel called The Silent Lady. This book is comforting me because the traumatized subject is made to feel safe by kind people after another person had physically and mentally brutalized her. It is so healing to find pieces of our own story in someone else's. Just to talk about such things is a comfort too as then some of the felt isolation is removed. Thank you for decriminalizing the term "breakdown".
Absolutely loved this episode. It hit home in so many ways on how I've been trying to heal from my own trauma. Also how it links to such "simple" things like IBS, my partner has suffered from this for a long time bit it goes in and out of intensity, looking back at it from listening to your talk I can distinctly see that its worst moments are around times of feeling unsafe. Sadly he has a terrible unstable work environment and it leaves him feeling totally unsafe and he is deteriorating worse now. Definitely changes to be made now we understand where some of the trouble lies! Thank you Mayim, Jonathan and Dr Porges.❤
When someone says that babies died when midwives were delivering babies, I want to scream. Many, many women died as a result of doctors refusing to wash their hands when handling women during child birth. Dr. Semmelweis was driven to madness when he presented his evidence and his peers refused to listen or believe and actively denounced his work. They refused to wash their hands for many years during which countless women died postpartum.
I'm hooked after one episode! On to Spotify to find your podcast! Mayim is an excellent interviewer: patient, doesn't interrupt, keeps a good flow and pace, injects some humor but not too much to detract from the seriousness of some of the content, and connects with her guest in a way that opens the floodgates of information. I teared up at the "one thing we can do" at the end... I see that I need that.
Great episode, my son has been telling me about his vagus nerve and I had no clue I even had one! He explained it some what but this episode definitely made me understand more! I listen to music designed for helping your vagus nerve, I don’t know if it really works but it certainly relaxes me and puts me right to sleep. It quiets my overactive thoughts.
Just a thought, I wonder if Mayim's sons stable HRV compared to Mayim's may be a result of the attachment parenting technique. As a person who wasn't held enough as a baby in the first year of life, I instinctively understand the benefit of attachment parenting. Perhaps with Mayims intelligence and education coupled with a trauma impacted nervous system, which we know can open us up differently, the attachment parenting was the obvious solution to a generational problem. She knew through her higher instinct how to mend the problem for her children. I just found that really interesting.
Vagal theory relating to autism spectrum: makes me wonder if the rocking, stimming, and humming behaviors of some on the spectrum are literally trying to reset the nervous system.
Myiam, I commented about one of your episodes last year and the loss of my Husband, and how ground breaking it was! You responded with such kind words. Last Friday I had a Vegus experience in relation to that loss.. (I did NOT know the name for that last Friday) And on Monday... BAM! I want you to personally know and Johnathan too...that y'all are healing people ... either with your words or pointing us to the right literature and people for us heal. Thank you! Thank you very much! ❤ I am using my Husband's phone, im Kymberly. Not Jimmy!
My question: in re: to epilepsy & seizure activity/activation; 2) my fangirl appreciation: I have been your fan since "Beaches " until the present. I would honored to be Amy Farah Fowler's friend & only hope she would be mine. Presently, you so very rock in educating, still, & are still an honor to know. You make life better ❤
Gostei de ter assistido , e pessoalmente me interessei no assunto de hoje. Tenho um filho de 32 anos, que, de repente, com 21 anos passou a ter epilepsia, ele fez uma cirurgia cerebral a 7 anos, foi removido 6 cm de massa encefálica de seu cérebro no lobo frontal lado direito, não teve mais crises, mais alternou o senso de humor, mudou sua personalidade, então quero levar ao médico dele as informações sobre o podcast de hoje para ajudar. Muito obrigado!!! Daqui do Brasil.❤
I've just saw a teasing of the interview on PolyVagal Institute's facebook and I was like "the interviewer looks like Amy", and then discovered your channel and it made my day🤩! So glad to see you and what you've done 🖖 Such a great pleasure to see you two together! Stephen Porges' Polyvagal Theory changed my life, as a teacher of stress and burnout physiology, and also personnaly, being on the autism spectrum. It's so helpful to understand people💠 I wrote blog posts and a book about it, so as big as your thesis (😳!!), but it's always a great pleasure to hear and talk about PVT 🤓
So good. Everyone should watch/listen to this interview. I like to talk with and listen to intelligent and educated people broaching important topics like this one. That makes me feel safe(r) in this world & it's why I love this channel so very much. 🎉
I’m 50 yrs old and dx with Asperger’s, CPTSD, ADHD and unspecified language learning deficits. I’m trying to get my degree in social work and I’m having to take the spanish Class to complete my AA degree. I find it’s been extra hard. Am I crazy? Or is it a part of my brain that lacks the proper structure to learn this language. I’m suffering mentally and am taking a mental health break from class today. Your expertise is caring and compassionate, and I find it very comforting during this time. I truly feel like a failure at this life😢 Thank you and keep going ..
Learning another language is hard, particularly as we get older, since we're more self-conscious about making mistakes or looking silly, and our brains aren't as flexible as when we're kids. But it's not impossible. It's something that you probably have to practice a lot. I took piano as an adult (which is like learning another language) and it was SO HARD, and I really needed to put a lot of practice time in, but I eventually started to get it. Try to go easier on yourself. Polyvagal theory would suggest that the more you beat yourself up, the more difficult learning will be. It's ok to make mistakes. You're not crazy. It is a difficult thing that you're doing. Ask your professor for extra support. That's what they're there for 🙂
I would Love if you continue this conversation with a discussion of the effects of prenatal exposure to drugs and alcohol on the polyvagal nerve. I have 7 adopted kids with FASD who have significant dysregulation of their nervous systems. More research is needed
This is so absolutely important. Thanks so much for this. I've been working on mine for a while and doing alright. I really appreciate the guidance and knowledge. Adding vagal nerve to the title will get it to more people searching for that specifically too. 🤗💗
Utterly fascinating. It's like you both were in our living room last night. I thought I'd mention my mom, who is a retired nurse. She worked for years in the newborn nursery in a hospital long before "rooming in" became popular. There were some babies whose "chemistry" (?) "offended" her, but not necessarily the other nurses. While other babies would cause negative reactions with other nurses. As Charge Nurse, Mom would instruct her nurses to quickly switch charge of any baby that affected them this way. Thoughts? Note: newborns
That’s fascinating I’m glad she was intelligent enough to understand this was a real thing and gave permission for that to occur. Excellent excellent management skills excellent nursing
People, it’s the Vagus nerve, not the Vegas nerve. The root of the word is like vagabond, vagrant - wandering. The nerve “wanders” through the body, connecting with all the major organs. It doesn’t cause you to want to go see a show or gamble. 😂😂😂
In the Italian subtitles they translate "Las Vegas" every time in every video about some topic involving the Vagus Nerve function! 😭😅 Fortunately, I need Italian subtitles just for "support", so to speak. I thought the problem was only in the Italian translation...
Go Mayim! Best episode yet. History of trauma (inter generational and personal), and yup this played out on my body. Trust me, diarrhea is not all in my head ;) Thanks and I look forward to hearing Bessel here! ❤
Interesting show!! Yes i used to be very attracted to the bad boys as a teen and finally listened to older women i worked with that insisted the guy was only for fun and not boyfriend/husband material. No future and protect yourself from consequences as they would be moving on. Older seasoned women had the best advice
Really great information and easy to take it in. Really massive point about the applicability - to prime the body to feel safe to heal in medicine for example. I did not feel safe the other day with an unsympathetic phlebotomist. I tried to escape and went the wrong way followed by her shouting at me and shouting for others which increased my fear and I probably nearly ended up in a theatre! So unnecessary I mumbled tearfully as I finally made my escape from the hospital! Babies and birthing is a great example which resonates personally. Oh, maybe my mother's body didn't feel safe and that was maybe a reason why she was in and out of labour for days ... Can you be co-regulated by a video? I feel co-regulated!
Mayim, I am still addicted to and watch the BIg Bang ( quality classic comedy) ! soooo funny and you are one of my fav characters! Now I find you here absolutely fabulous 👌 great podcast ! quality guests ! ( like the BBC educational, entertaining, and informative! you have kept me company in Dubai now in the UK! keep up the good work ! xx
Thank you! I thought I was crazy when I heard "vocal fry" the first time because it was unbearable to me. As soon as I hear that vocal style, I tune out immediately
I have a different understanding of Fawning, which is more like appeasement. If I can make the person who feels threatening to me feel like I’m agreeing with them and “feed their ego” the chances of that person hurting me goes down. It’s a form of manipulation to preemptively de-escalate a threatening situation.
Dr Porges, Haere mai, Thank you . Thank you for using language - disregulation, tuning, introception, evolutionary mammalian development, metrics, and the 'space between' stimulus and response as Victor Frankl. The space between notes makes the music, as Nietzsche observed, Without music 🎶 Life would be a mistake.
I wish you would have asked about the lack of evidence, I know it works and helps a lot of people including me but there are some concerns about the lack of experimental evidence I have been watching a lot about this concerns and it's interesting I wish you would have brought it up (:
@@MayimBialik I'm not a regular listener, but I've recommended it to a few clients. This one captivated me, probably because the heart issue they thought I had for most of my life has been changed to a diagnosis of a hyperactive vagus nerve. Yes, it isn't just fight or flight, the third option is to play dead. Isn't evolution fun. :)
Paradigm shift in scientific inquiry that's been long overdue. Vagus is special as the body-mind dialog that extends to other beings for the purpose of wellness. Kuhn is smiling.
This was an amazing talk! I love what you are doing exploring health in the matters of the mind. The vagus nerve is quite the exploration my ‘magical’ therapist (rmt) Dory (yes she is just like the one in finding nemo 😂) loved discussing trauma in the body from injuries emotionally and physically stuck. I love you! I grew up seeing you in Blossom, what not to wear (yup I saw that episode while myself in postpartum 😂😢❤) , and husband and I just finished binge watching my Big Bang Theory disc set! Keep doing what you are doing. Healing is a journey that makes it easier with a community. 💕
What you miss @59.00 is an obvious tautology. If the "receptionist" (99% of time) doesn't make you feel safe as you walk into any office (e.g., convey cues of interoceptive safety) it is that s/he is also in a defensive hypervigilant fight/flight sympathetic-adrenal or parasympathetic dorsal hypoactive withdrawal/shutdown and/or dissociation. You too are holding your breath. So the incidental moments of "disarming" or down-regulating and co-regulating are met by the stasis of mutual discord and defense.
I appreciate the comments at the end about our medical system. Have you ever looked into homeopathy? It heals physically and emotionally. Dynamic Body Balancing also has amazing results for unwinding birth trauma and everything else. Our bodies do keep the score and I’m so glad more healing options are available. The power that made the body heals the body.
Great episode. Would you consider to also invite Bessel van der Kolk? His book "The Body keeps the Score" is so insightful when it comes to understanding the concept of trauma in all of its social and biological ramifications.
i think sensitive people especially just dont want to tarnish something shiny. like i didnt want to pollute the unpolluted so i allowed and sometimes sought people who were safe in that they were equally as damaged or more
Morning. ❤ There's just 1 hr ago that u submit this video, and I just need to see u guys❤! Love your show and this is so accurate. I'm attracted to this "bas boys". My husband is one of them. But he is smarter than I
Porges, Levine, Maté. Now, bring Bessel van der Kolk for a complete series of: how wrong Western medicine went and what to do about it. Another good conversation would be with Dr Vincent Felitti. Creator of the ACE score mentioned many times on this interview by Porges.
I would be interested in learning more about how to support children who don’t feel safe (due to things like parents divorcing or being bullied at school).
I'm only 1/2 way into watching, & want to say what a gift this➡ thanks so much to all of you. One of the things I wonder abt when I read theories, or listen to discussions re: developmental, and other systems of human beings being human is ➡I wonder how this applies if a person is born deaf, or blind...in this case, baby doesn't hear voice tones, or doesn't see faces. My question isn't adversarial. I'm curious...especially say, if a child is born deaf & blind, &/or if child's mothering-person is deaf, or blind? Does Dr Porges talk abt that, too in his new book? Thanks again❣
Hey Mayim, thank you for all you do. Kaiser has actually made massive strides and are all about preventative. Single occupancy at the sunset location too many things to mention here but I'm a fan. And I dont get paid for saying this.
If you're someone that struggles with being fat, and you want to lose weight, the only thing you need to do, is understand that food falls into three categories called Macronutrients. Protein Fat Carbohydrates If your goal is to lose body fat, never mix carbs and fat in a meal. If you want to gain weight, mix all three in the same meal. Keto people are correct. High fat, moderate protein, no carbs, and you'll lose body fat. High carb people are correct. High carb, moderate protein, no fat, and you'll lose body fat. Good luck!
Mayim . ive ben an adult since age 9 . wacthing u on macgiver and blossom i remember that !! but ya im 39 .seems our parents were gone alot back then . now not so .but bad guys come from abandoned family usually . well love the podcast now a dayz ...GET IT GRLLLL LOL.
I thought fawn was taking care of others. Is it not tend & befriend? When my father died in 1973, he was 40 and i was 14 and my brother was one week short of 13. I cried at the funeral and then took care of my brother while mom kept the household together so we wouldn’t need to move. Losing dad was enough change, she thought, and she was able to pull it off. I cried at the funeral and then not again for 4 years. Then I cried for 4 months. I had coped by focusing outside myself but for loving reasons.
I am raising my hand here. Please call on me! I have a question: at 55 min (+ or --) where you are talking about safety, and I am wondering if it's specifically about physical safety, or does it include mental/emotional safety? Do we see a difference between those two in regards to the Vegas nerve?
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When do you feel safe? 🦺
Has anyone’s voice ever really irritated you without you being able to explain why? 🤐
Have you ever been attracted to someone or something you know isn't good for you? 🏍
Let us know in the comments!!
My dating motto at age 25: "If 'Nice Guys Finish Last'... Point Me to the End of the Line!!" 🤗🥰My motto by age 35: "Men... are highly over-rated creatures..."🤨 Motto-age 45: "If 'Men Are From Mars'... They should have just f*cking stayed there!"😜 Over 55+: Don't even bother asking me anymore!!😉
Theory of Bad Boy Attraction: (A) Depends on your family system dynamics w your father; (B) Depends on a woman's Creativity & Imagination abilities=she won't seek out stimulation/excitement/adrenal rush if she's the creative type/not easily bored; (C) Maybe seeking an "Alpha/Bad Boy" is just a survival mechanism/"If he can kick ass then (me/my offspring) will survive Clan of the Cave Bear? PS I married a quiet, soft-spoken, small stature guy... who turned out to be a well-disguised Bad 😈Boy to the Tenth Power... 🤦♀WARNING: Physical "Chemistry" is really just bad karma from a previous lifetime coming back to bite you in the ass...How else would the Universe get two mortal enemies to marry each other & procreate? PSS: My adrenals are bleeding...🤦♀
Thank you for this, addressing vagus nerve with Dr. Porges and polyvagal theory!
I just find out that I felt threatened with the voice of a colleague... She takes deep breaths between short phrases... And she is a psychologist
Yes all of the above, but I’m listening to my body, intuition now finally!
I am LOVING this guest and your interaction together. He is so clear and consciously present. Such a helpful and intelligent conversation. Thank you for what you bring to me and the world. So glad to have found you recently, and I am binge-watching back episodes like crazy.
We're very happy you found us, @juliao1255! 🧠🫶
If say that when you talk about the vagus nerve it's about safety which is awesome but it becomes more localized. Probably when you hear 'but' from the lucky people that get to be with you sissy
Well said! I've recently found these breakdowns myself and filling every spare moment with them.
Bialik-san, I'm a 43 year old Japanese man. When I was a junior school student, I looked forward to watching the drama "Blossom" on TV every time. I loved you and your drama, so I was so sad when the drama finished. After a while, I was curious about you. At this time, I could find your channel on youtube, so I'm so happy to see you doing well and be able to express my feeling. I will continue to support you from Japan ! Sincerely, Ken.
Dr. Porges’ Polyvagal Theory has changed forever to me René Descartes' classic “I Think, Therefore I Am” for the most perfected one “I Feel, Therefore I Am”..
Another episode to watch in loops that goes to my selected ones list at my own “Corpus Doctrinae” along with Dr. Attia, Dr. Gabor Matté, Michel Singer, David Sinclair and Rabbi Steve Leder past ones!
I was very moved by the story of patients finding Dr. Porges a safe male to hug. As a woman with childhood trauma that has made me feel unsafe with males, that really touched me. Thank you for another important episode, MBB crew! ❤️🧠🤓
"Just stressed out"??????
"JUST"
whenever I hear the word "just", I say, you're never "just" anything.
Great conversation.
I love you too❤and almost every guest you've had
PHENOMENAL episode…a master class on several topics !! Mayim’s ability to bring HIGHER science to an understandable level is a true gift. Thank you for continuing to bring guests that elevate our minds and souls. I’m grateful for all you and Jonathan and your team bring to the world. 💫💫
I love it when you have highly studied people in the podcast. They know so much😍
Despite me being intimidated to watch this video as it seemed to be a topic that would go over my head, this was very informative and digestible. And coming directly from the source and key figure in the field is such a treat. The way he explained things allowed me to understand even though I am a complete layman. *You have a wonderful podcast. I am glad you have the platform & fame to prop it up. You are doing the public such a service with these. As you are allowing them exposure to something they would not have otherwise or would but with misinformation. Thank you😄*
I would so give Dr. Porges a hug. What a kind soul. A client of mine shared this podcast with me because I taught her about the vagus nerve to help her understand why she responds certain ways when under stress or threat, so I was so excited to see this episode. I've been obsessed with the vagus nerve and other neuropsychological processes as it relates to my practice as a therapist because I am a big ol' science nerd who almost went to medical school. This discussion broadened my understanding, so thank you!! You wanna talk about co-regulation and safety, have someone on to talk about emotionally focused therapy. It's based on attachment theory and feelings of safety 🙂
I really enjoyed watching and listening to this excellent conversation with Dr. Stephen Porges! You have a really great channel, Mayim! ❤
Another great podcast sharing important information. Gabor Maté, Peter Levine and Stephen Porges are my top people and they've been able to share how important the mind, body and soul connection is in order to understand ourselves
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Thanks for name dropping. I have enjoyed hearing Gabor Matt but don't recognize the name Peter Levine. I'll be looking for those when I finish this episode.
I enjoy the depth of the interviews on breakdown even when they aren't as "learned", such terrific insights into so many topics.
Ty Mayim and Jonathan
So fun to see the guy behind the books. He seems sweet. Our Poly World is such a great read.
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My first labor was in a hospital and it was long, painful, awful. So I chose a birth center for my second. While the center was beautifully designed, the people were judgmental, better-than, inaccessible, etc. The ultrasound tech was complaining about how bad their machine was. I felt sooo unsafe and honestly angry! I found a young and progressive OBGYN and chose a hospital birth, and it was fabulous! The environment isn’t nearly as important as the people!
I love how much Mayim cracks herself up in the afterward! Wonderful interview with this guest, & for the record, Jonathan’s voice always makes me safe.
Amazing insight into the simplicity of just vocal intonation & how that makes such a difference. If reminds me of the William Hurt movie, The Patient, I believe. I would love to hear an episode of just this guest, Mayim, & Jonathan discussing that movie alone & how the vagus nerve impacts all involved in that movie.
This is profound! I am having to digest this episode in smaller portions because it is a lot of valuable information slightly above my pay grade ;) Literally blowing my mind lol!!!
FANTASTIC episode. I’ve studied and worked with some of the techniques that have emerged from Dr. Porges’ work, and this is a terrific conversation. (BTW in the Seinfeld episode, staying over was *optional*; it was calling the day after that was forbidden. Basically the same idea. Emotional intimacy was to be avoided.) And yes, Bessel Van Der Kolk would give you the trauma trifecta, or whatever.
When my son became paralyzed at age 6 due to a SCI from just a fall at home, his favorite days at rehab were when the therapy dogs came in! First smile I saw on his face was that day. He's 20, in college now and still paraplegic unfortunately, but he gets along great, but I still remember Joker and how he lifted his sprits!!
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I am floored by this information how did my doctor not know about this!!!! I am a survivor of a very abusive 13 year marriage around the 8th year I started going to the hospital for severe abdominal pain they tested for gallbladder stones. They tested for kidney stones done all kinds of GI testings can never figure out what was going on with me. I am now going to do sam research into this because this would make sense as to why I get this severe pain and then I can't function in so many ways
Mayim, Jonathan, thanks for an engaging interview with Dr. Stephen Porges.
One situation where safety is essential besides childbirth is dying. My wife of 20 years developed thymic carcinoma in 2005 and died after several years in 2011. In the last stretch the medical authorities in Thailand wanted her in the hospital, but we wanted her to pass at home, safe and protected.
Home is a place of love. We worked, she and I, to give her, a “beautiful death” at home. So we kept her at home, provided all the pain relief possible through a volunteer nurse. She passed in my arms, safe, protected and loved. A most beautiful death.
I am currently reading Catherine Cookson's novel called The Silent Lady. This book is comforting me because the traumatized subject is made to feel safe by kind people after another person had physically and mentally brutalized her. It is so healing to find pieces of our own story in someone else's. Just to talk about such things is a comfort too as then some of the felt isolation is removed. Thank you for decriminalizing the term "breakdown".
This interview articulates so well the feelings and beliefs I have about our society in the U.S. Thank you for this wonderful interview Mayim!
Absolutely loved this episode. It hit home in so many ways on how I've been trying to heal from my own trauma.
Also how it links to such "simple" things like IBS, my partner has suffered from this for a long time bit it goes in and out of intensity, looking back at it from listening to your talk I can distinctly see that its worst moments are around times of feeling unsafe. Sadly he has a terrible unstable work environment and it leaves him feeling totally unsafe and he is deteriorating worse now. Definitely changes to be made now we understand where some of the trouble lies! Thank you Mayim, Jonathan and Dr Porges.❤
When someone says that babies died when midwives were delivering babies, I want to scream. Many, many women died as a result of doctors refusing to wash their hands when handling women during child birth. Dr. Semmelweis was driven to madness when he presented his evidence and his peers refused to listen or believe and actively denounced his work. They refused to wash their hands for many years during which countless women died postpartum.
My favorite and most need podcast interview. Thank you Mayim!!
I am always singing and humming 😊
😙🎶🎵🎙
1:29:20 "Those who have a trauma history are unable to access the resources the body has to heal itself."
מעניין מאוד.
תודה רבה ❤
Enjoyed this so much! I believe that the feeling safe factor for healing is true.
Thank you!
What a refreshingly nuanced guy!
I'm hooked after one episode! On to Spotify to find your podcast! Mayim is an excellent interviewer: patient, doesn't interrupt, keeps a good flow and pace, injects some humor but not too much to detract from the seriousness of some of the content, and connects with her guest in a way that opens the floodgates of information. I teared up at the "one thing we can do" at the end... I see that I need that.
Great episode, my son has been telling me about his vagus nerve and I had no clue I even had one! He explained it some what but this episode definitely made me understand more! I listen to music designed for helping your vagus nerve, I don’t know if it really works but it certainly relaxes me and puts me right to sleep. It quiets my overactive thoughts.
This is one of those that was/is very timely in my life. And I will probably be listening to it again. There was so much great stuff.
Just a thought, I wonder if Mayim's sons stable HRV compared to Mayim's may be a result of the attachment parenting technique. As a person who wasn't held enough as a baby in the first year of life, I instinctively understand the benefit of attachment parenting. Perhaps with Mayims intelligence and education coupled with a trauma impacted nervous system, which we know can open us up differently, the attachment parenting was the obvious solution to a generational problem. She knew through her higher instinct how to mend the problem for her children. I just found that really interesting.
Vagal theory relating to autism spectrum: makes me wonder if the rocking, stimming, and humming behaviors of some on the spectrum are literally trying to reset the nervous system.
well, yes of course. it signals safety.
Myiam, I commented about one of your episodes last year and the loss of my Husband, and how ground breaking it was! You responded with such kind words.
Last Friday I had a Vegus experience in relation to that loss..
(I did NOT know the name for that last Friday)
And on Monday...
BAM!
I want you to personally know and Johnathan too...that y'all are healing people ... either with your words or pointing us to the right literature and people for us heal.
Thank you! Thank you very much!
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I am using my Husband's phone, im Kymberly. Not Jimmy!
I am already planning to watch this episode again. This conversation was fascinating, and makes me want to know more. Thank you!
My question: in re: to epilepsy & seizure activity/activation; 2) my fangirl appreciation: I have been your fan since "Beaches " until the present. I would honored to be Amy Farah Fowler's friend & only hope she would be mine. Presently, you so very rock in educating, still, & are still an honor to know. You make life better ❤
Gostei de ter assistido , e pessoalmente me interessei no assunto de hoje.
Tenho um filho de 32 anos, que, de repente, com 21 anos passou a ter epilepsia, ele fez uma cirurgia cerebral a 7 anos, foi removido 6 cm de massa encefálica de seu cérebro no lobo frontal lado direito, não teve mais crises, mais alternou o senso de humor, mudou sua personalidade, então quero levar ao médico dele as informações sobre o podcast de hoje para ajudar.
Muito obrigado!!!
Daqui do Brasil.❤
Just loving all the shows Mayim! Your the best🥇🤓🌻👍❤️
I've just saw a teasing of the interview on PolyVagal Institute's facebook and I was like "the interviewer looks like Amy", and then discovered your channel and it made my day🤩! So glad to see you and what you've done 🖖
Such a great pleasure to see you two together! Stephen Porges' Polyvagal Theory changed my life, as a teacher of stress and burnout physiology, and also personnaly, being on the autism spectrum. It's so helpful to understand people💠 I wrote blog posts and a book about it, so as big as your thesis (😳!!), but it's always a great pleasure to hear and talk about PVT 🤓
So good. Everyone should watch/listen to this interview.
I like to talk with and listen to intelligent and educated people broaching important topics like this one. That makes me feel safe(r) in this world & it's why I love this channel so very much. 🎉
My therapist is doing poly vegal “vibrational” Treatment on me…It has been life changing.
I’m 50 yrs old and dx with Asperger’s, CPTSD, ADHD and unspecified language learning deficits. I’m trying to get my degree in social work and I’m having to take the spanish Class to complete my AA degree. I find it’s been extra hard. Am I crazy? Or is it a part of my brain that lacks the proper structure to learn this language. I’m suffering mentally and am taking a mental health break from class today. Your expertise is caring and compassionate, and I find it very comforting during this time. I truly feel like a failure at this life😢
Thank you and keep going ..
Learning another language is hard, particularly as we get older, since we're more self-conscious about making mistakes or looking silly, and our brains aren't as flexible as when we're kids. But it's not impossible. It's something that you probably have to practice a lot. I took piano as an adult (which is like learning another language) and it was SO HARD, and I really needed to put a lot of practice time in, but I eventually started to get it. Try to go easier on yourself. Polyvagal theory would suggest that the more you beat yourself up, the more difficult learning will be. It's ok to make mistakes. You're not crazy. It is a difficult thing that you're doing. Ask your professor for extra support. That's what they're there for 🙂
@@Samtastic5000 thank youuuuu
This one was a real eyeopener 🙌🏼! I learned so much from this episode 🧠. Thank you guys! You are amazing and I love your podcast❤️🩹
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Mayim, you’re hilarious. I relate to you on a few levels… Really love the podcast, so many interesting topics, grateful I can tune in.
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I would Love if you continue this conversation with a discussion of the effects of prenatal exposure to drugs and alcohol on the polyvagal nerve.
I have 7 adopted kids with FASD who have significant dysregulation of their nervous systems.
More research is needed
This is so absolutely important. Thanks so much for this. I've been working on mine for a while and doing alright. I really appreciate the guidance and knowledge. Adding vagal nerve to the title will get it to more people searching for that specifically too. 🤗💗
Mayim, you have a talent for making any subject incredibly entertaining-thank you for that!
Utterly fascinating. It's like you both were in our living room last night. I thought I'd mention my mom, who is a retired nurse. She worked for years in the newborn nursery in a hospital long before "rooming in" became popular. There were some babies whose "chemistry" (?) "offended" her, but not necessarily the other nurses. While other babies would cause negative reactions with other nurses. As Charge Nurse, Mom would instruct her nurses to quickly switch charge of any baby that affected them this way. Thoughts? Note: newborns
That’s fascinating I’m glad she was intelligent enough to understand this was a real thing and gave permission for that to occur. Excellent excellent management skills excellent nursing
People, it’s the Vagus nerve, not the Vegas nerve. The root of the word is like vagabond, vagrant - wandering. The nerve “wanders” through the body, connecting with all the major organs. It doesn’t cause you to want to go see a show or gamble. 😂😂😂
Try to put CC in YT and see what they translate during all the episode: Vegas….
In the Italian subtitles they translate "Las Vegas" every time in every video about some topic involving the Vagus Nerve function! 😭😅
Fortunately, I need Italian subtitles just for "support", so to speak.
I thought the problem was only in the Italian translation...
Go Mayim! Best episode yet. History of trauma (inter generational and personal), and yup this played out on my body. Trust me, diarrhea is not all in my head ;)
Thanks and I look forward to hearing Bessel here! ❤
Interesting show!!
Yes i used to be very attracted to the bad boys as a teen and finally listened to older women i worked with that insisted the guy was only for fun and not boyfriend/husband material. No future and protect yourself from consequences as they would be moving on. Older seasoned women had the best advice
Really great information and easy to take it in.
Really massive point about the applicability - to prime the body to feel safe to heal in medicine for example.
I did not feel safe the other day with an unsympathetic phlebotomist. I tried to escape and went the wrong way followed by her shouting at me and shouting for others which increased my fear and I probably nearly ended up in a theatre! So unnecessary I mumbled tearfully as I finally made my escape from the hospital!
Babies and birthing is a great example which resonates personally. Oh, maybe my mother's body didn't feel safe and that was maybe a reason why she was in and out of labour for days ...
Can you be co-regulated by a video? I feel co-regulated!
Mayim, I am still addicted to and watch the BIg Bang ( quality classic comedy) ! soooo funny and you are one of my fav characters! Now I find you here absolutely fabulous 👌 great podcast ! quality guests ! ( like the BBC educational, entertaining, and informative! you have kept me company in Dubai now in the UK! keep up the good work ! xx
Someone needs to make a clip of the last part of just Mayim and Jonathan. That discussion should go viral, mainly the talk about hospitals.
Just got hos book on Audible....excited to give it a listen. His voice is so soothing I wish he had narrated it. 😅
Thank you! I thought I was crazy when I heard "vocal fry" the first time because it was unbearable to me. As soon as I hear that vocal style, I tune out immediately
I have a different understanding of Fawning, which is more like appeasement. If I can make the person who feels threatening to me feel like I’m agreeing with them and “feed their ego” the chances of that person hurting me goes down. It’s a form of manipulation to preemptively de-escalate a threatening situation.
(Notes to myself:
Ca 52:00 optimistic perspective of PVT: It's not pathology but a state of threat i.e. changeable.
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Dr Porges, Haere mai,
Thank you . Thank you for using language - disregulation, tuning, introception, evolutionary mammalian development, metrics, and the 'space between' stimulus and response as Victor Frankl.
The space between notes makes the music, as Nietzsche observed, Without music 🎶 Life would be a mistake.
I wish you would have asked about the lack of evidence, I know it works and helps a lot of people including me but there are some concerns about the lack of experimental evidence I have been watching a lot about this concerns and it's interesting I wish you would have brought it up (:
Usually don’t leave a comment but this is a great great episode…! I love the conversation!
You've probably already read it, but take a look at The Myth of Normal. It pairs well with this episode.
Yes !! We reference it a lot on the pod, and it definitely especially pairs well with what we cover on today's ep. 🙌
@@MayimBialik I'm not a regular listener, but I've recommended it to a few clients. This one captivated me, probably because the heart issue they thought I had for most of my life has been changed to a diagnosis of a hyperactive vagus nerve. Yes, it isn't just fight or flight, the third option is to play dead. Isn't evolution fun. :)
You should be proud of the work you do. You've helped a lot of people.
Paradigm shift in scientific inquiry that's been long overdue. Vagus is special as the body-mind dialog that extends to other beings for the purpose of wellness. Kuhn is smiling.
Enjoying this from here in Standish, Maine. Thank you.
This was an amazing talk! I love what you are doing exploring health in the matters of the mind. The vagus nerve is quite the exploration my ‘magical’ therapist (rmt) Dory (yes she is just like the one in finding nemo 😂) loved discussing trauma in the body from injuries emotionally and physically stuck. I love you! I grew up seeing you in Blossom, what not to wear (yup I saw that episode while myself in postpartum 😂😢❤) , and husband and I just finished binge watching my Big Bang Theory disc set! Keep doing what you are doing. Healing is a journey that makes it easier with a community. 💕
can't wait to see u and jim in the young sheldon series finale
This is brilliant! Very much the way I run a business. Thank you so much for this perspective!
What you miss @59.00 is an obvious tautology. If the "receptionist" (99% of time) doesn't make you feel safe as you walk into any office (e.g., convey cues of interoceptive safety) it is that s/he is also in a defensive hypervigilant fight/flight sympathetic-adrenal or parasympathetic dorsal hypoactive withdrawal/shutdown and/or dissociation. You too are holding your breath. So the incidental moments of "disarming" or down-regulating and co-regulating are met by the stasis of mutual discord and defense.
Love this discussion
Was very curious about the Vegas nerves and co including with Vegas frequencies! Thank you!
I appreciate the comments at the end about our medical system. Have you ever looked into homeopathy? It heals physically and emotionally. Dynamic Body Balancing also has amazing results for unwinding birth trauma and everything else. Our bodies do keep the score and I’m so glad more healing options are available. The power that made the body heals the body.
Great episode. Would you consider to also invite Bessel van der Kolk? His book "The Body keeps the Score" is so insightful when it comes to understanding the concept of trauma in all of its social and biological ramifications.
Ohh I love this guest. So great you have him on the show 😊 but where is the mentioned episode with Peter Levine looking forward to see this 😮🎉
I loved this episode! Thank you
i think sensitive people especially just dont want to tarnish something shiny. like i didnt want to pollute the unpolluted so i allowed and sometimes sought people who were safe in that they were equally as damaged or more
Morning. ❤ There's just 1 hr ago that u submit this video, and I just need to see u guys❤! Love your show and this is so accurate. I'm attracted to this "bas boys". My husband is one of them. But he is smarter than I
Porges, Levine, Maté. Now, bring Bessel van der Kolk for a complete series of: how wrong Western medicine went and what to do about it. Another good conversation would be with Dr Vincent Felitti. Creator of the ACE score mentioned many times on this interview by Porges.
Love to see an interview with Dan Avidan. Love the show!
this was a great podcast, I am going to listen to it again. I could relate> traum. thank you Mayim more please!
I never feel safe. I don't trust people. since jan 6, covid, interacting with trumpers. awful
The Fantastically Awesomeness Continues! ✊😊👊🍁♈🍁
He's awesome.
Super interesting interview Mayim and Jonathan. Really looking forward to the one with Peter Levine. Maybe Bessel down the road?
I would be interested in learning more about how to support children who don’t feel safe (due to things like parents divorcing or being bullied at school).
I'm only 1/2 way into watching, & want to say what a gift this➡ thanks so much to all of you. One of the things I wonder abt when I read theories, or listen to discussions re: developmental, and other systems of human beings being human is ➡I wonder how this applies if a person is born deaf, or blind...in this case, baby doesn't hear voice tones, or doesn't see faces. My question isn't adversarial. I'm curious...especially say, if a child is born deaf & blind, &/or if child's mothering-person is deaf, or blind? Does Dr Porges talk abt that, too in his new book? Thanks again❣
Im not online enough i guess cause I omly heard of the vegas nerve once 2 years ago
Hey Mayim, thank you for all you do.
Kaiser has actually made massive strides and are all about preventative. Single occupancy at the sunset location too many things to mention here but I'm a fan. And I dont get paid for saying this.
Ive had a cardiac arrest due to this nerve. Stress definitely isnt good for me. I have various effects from massive heat increases to passing out.
If you're someone that struggles with being fat, and you want to lose weight, the only thing you need to do, is understand that food falls into three categories called Macronutrients.
Protein
Fat
Carbohydrates
If your goal is to lose body fat, never mix carbs and fat in a meal.
If you want to gain weight, mix all three in the same meal.
Keto people are correct. High fat, moderate protein, no carbs, and you'll lose body fat.
High carb people are correct. High carb, moderate protein, no fat, and you'll lose body fat.
Good luck!
Very interesting. I feel like I learned something about me. I premember you.
Great show Md Mayim
Another good interviewer on these lines is Dr Norman Doidge.
You should have Gretchen Rubin on !! Love her.
Mayim . ive ben an adult since age 9 . wacthing u on macgiver and blossom i remember that !! but ya im 39 .seems our parents were gone alot back then . now not so .but bad guys come from abandoned family usually . well love the podcast now a dayz ...GET IT GRLLLL LOL.
I think Porges misunderstands Fawn, a term first introduced by Pete Walker. Fawning is not "giving up".
invite rob lustag to expand on metabolism and trauma
Pat Ogden would be another great guest.
I thought fawn was taking care of others. Is it not tend & befriend?
When my father died in 1973, he was 40 and i was 14 and my brother was one week short of 13. I cried at the funeral and then took care of my brother while mom kept the household together so we wouldn’t need to move. Losing dad was enough change, she thought, and she was able to pull it off.
I cried at the funeral and then not again for 4 years. Then I cried for 4 months. I had coped by focusing outside myself but for loving reasons.
I am raising my hand here. Please call on me! I have a question: at 55 min (+ or --) where you are talking about safety, and I am wondering if it's specifically about physical safety, or does it include mental/emotional safety? Do we see a difference between those two in regards to the Vegas nerve?
Vagus, just fyi.