Kirby Return To Dreamland DX/Magolor Epilogue Ending EXPLAINED! [The Sentient Crown!]

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ความคิดเห็น • 421

  • @dylanku0625
    @dylanku0625 ปีที่แล้ว +897

    And in the end, he became something even more evil than what he was before. Magolor became a merchant with micro transactions.

  • @Filon73
    @Filon73 ปีที่แล้ว +638

    In a dialogue in the Lor Starcutter Magolor reveals to Kirby his dream of building an amusement park, and also says that he should start from something small like a shop, which is then what happens, he goes to the Kirby Clash dimention, plants the gem apple tree, earns enough money (also in the credits of Super Kirby Clash the last image shows Magolor in his normal pattern), he actually goes back to Dream Land after everything that happens in Super Kirby Clash and builds the amusement parks as a big "sorry" to Kirby

    • @OrbaJuice
      @OrbaJuice ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@shawnsmith1673 yea

    • @Filon73
      @Filon73 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @CreepCalamity Magolor got trough the epilogue and THEN he went to the Kirby Clash dimension, then he came back

    • @Kanextra82
      @Kanextra82 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@shawnsmith1673 WHY does bandana waddle dee not remember kirby then lmao

    • @EyeofKoruption
      @EyeofKoruption ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So it All comes full circle

    • @Kanextra82
      @Kanextra82 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@shawnsmith1673 is it not bandana dee who is by the tree? Bruh

  • @The-Fable-Fox
    @The-Fable-Fox ปีที่แล้ว +454

    I didn't see Magolor's animation at the end as a regression, I figured it was him crying. He was shuddering, and then he wiped his tears away. Probably out of relief that he was alive, free from whatever the crown did to him, and able to escape that dimension.

    • @samschofield9452
      @samschofield9452 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      i think magolor was crying because he lost his fruit (the gem apple) which he is shown reunited with in the credits so maybe he just thought he lost it.

    • @PokemonaMoni
      @PokemonaMoni ปีที่แล้ว +68

      Yeah I think he was crying but out of happiness because he was finally free from the Crown and that dimension and could return to a normal world

    • @RogelioALoya
      @RogelioALoya ปีที่แล้ว +39

      It could be a lot of things, like realizing that he just destroyed what he fought so long to acquire

    • @blueboxy21
      @blueboxy21 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      I think he saw the Portal as his shot of a second chance, and when he realizes that, he began to cry, he was relieved and wholeheartedly accepts the change. As shown as he opens his arms out as he jumps into the portal

    • @larsthememelord3383
      @larsthememelord3383 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @Enderoem well elfilis came in a time the forgotten land wasnt so forgotten
      so maybe the master crown is what lead to the forgotten land becoming abandonded
      the master crown would most likely have to power to trancend space and time

  • @Hiswf_
    @Hiswf_ ปีที่แล้ว +317

    One thing that always bothered me was in star allies that magolor could use the ultra sword even though he didn't have the master crown. The epilogue answered that question.

    • @idosarts_and_krafts
      @idosarts_and_krafts ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Same to me
      It was badass to see

    • @fateslegacy
      @fateslegacy ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I don't think he needs it that's why. He very capable mage on his own I think simply copied Kirby's version and made his own one which so Badass!

    • @BrupAlot
      @BrupAlot 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So basically Kirby and Magolor are surprisingly even

  • @TheGamerninja15
    @TheGamerninja15 ปีที่แล้ว +276

    The Master Crown battle was probably the biggest plot twist in my opinion.

    • @thedraftingax5963
      @thedraftingax5963 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Same

    • @m.o.l.orsomething
      @m.o.l.orsomething ปีที่แล้ว +47

      The biggest twist for me was that the tree was shaped like an angel

    • @Mi123mima
      @Mi123mima ปีที่แล้ว +78

      The biggest plot twist was super kirby clash being canon

    • @blehblah9445
      @blehblah9445 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Lol deforestation go brr

    • @seanpvs101moviesproduction3
      @seanpvs101moviesproduction3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It’s basically for this final boss it’s like Whispy woods and accurate angel Have a Love child.

  • @eternalsoul1220
    @eternalsoul1220 ปีที่แล้ว +203

    If I remember correctly, the Crowned Doomer's description mentioned Punishing magalor for using Kirby or something, so I kinda saw the doomers as Angels of sorts, possibly trying to stop magalor from escaping/Stopping Kirby from helping magalor

    • @MySnugglePuppy
      @MySnugglePuppy ปีที่แล้ว +18

      But magolor uses them to attack in his first boss phase.

    • @jakehaberecht2764
      @jakehaberecht2764 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like to think that the rampaging doomers and crowned doomer are special, and that they were trained by the ancients or something to guard the fruit fragments and potentially punish crimes for the ancients. Like an executioner, while the other doomers are just wild creatures that want to feed on energy.

    • @kzyit
      @kzyit ปีที่แล้ว +29

      ​@@MySnugglePuppy It's possible they were just afraid of it, but that's speculation.

    • @DeltaBlazin
      @DeltaBlazin ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@MySnugglePuppy Probably used them by force, against their own will.
      There are doomer-looking entities in Another Dimension tho, Idk if they're related however

    • @RogelioALoya
      @RogelioALoya ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I actually thought it was saying that they were fighting him just because he took the energy spheres

  • @wiiugamer1921
    @wiiugamer1921 ปีที่แล้ว +172

    The fact that in the final battle of Magolor epilogue, we see which look like egg engines in the past. That must mean that Halcandria was one of the planets that the ancients populated, however egg engines got destroyed by a meteor doomsday.

    • @teshindax3683
      @teshindax3683 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      i agree with this

    • @joshcoy6748
      @joshcoy6748 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      For whatever reason, it also reminded me of the forgotten land.

    • @elianhg2144
      @elianhg2144 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@joshcoy6748 me too, the skyscrapers made me think is was earth

  • @gundamgamer7060
    @gundamgamer7060 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    I always thought the reason LAndia was never controlled by the crown was because they had four heads, so the three heads not wearing the crown kept the crown in check.
    Edit 3/6/23: Well, apparently Landia EX's pause screen in the remake actually states that even they aren't 100% immune to the crowd's influence, so I guess I might have been mistaken.

    • @majinhottuna
      @majinhottuna ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Wow, that actually makes some sense.
      The Crown takes the soul of the wearer and influences there evil. But Landia (as in the single head that wears the crown). Is pure, and then the other three fuse with it, keeping the crown in check and suppressing it's influence

    • @larsthememelord3383
      @larsthememelord3383 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I thought landia used to power of the crown to keep the crown at bay hence why it doesnt turn landia into a dark beast like it does with magalor and the doomers
      but the multiple heads most likely helped aswell

    • @Mike14264
      @Mike14264 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That's some Fridge Brilliance right there.

  • @明石湊
    @明石湊 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    Ethereal Altar is called ‘Room of Eden’ in Japanese. I believe Magolor Epilogue is a reverse story of Paradice Lost. He gets expulsed from paradise (Lor) and drifts to a hellish non-realistic place(Eden). Then He obtains a Malus pumila and gets his (and maybe all the Halcandran's and the Master Crown's) original sin judged and atoned by the Malus Pumila. This is completely the opposite of Paradice lost, a story in which obtaining Malus pumila is the sin, gets expulsed from paradise (Eden), and drifts to hellish reality.
    Or maybe Magolor Epilogue isn't a story of his atonement at all and is exactly a story of paradise lost. He gets expulsed from paradise(main timeline) and maybe that's why nobody knows him in Kirby Clash.
    Sorry for my bad English!

    • @Mike14264
      @Mike14264 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Honestly a pretty cool theory!

    • @明石湊
      @明石湊 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Mike14264 TNX!

    • @enlongjones2394
      @enlongjones2394 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      And we do know from Star Allies that “Lor” means “Paradise”

  • @Xellerator101
    @Xellerator101 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    He also came back to star Allie’s and it’s definitely the same magalor because he even has the sword that he used in the epilogue

    • @S.I.L.
      @S.I.L. ปีที่แล้ว +13

      And gem apples so he comes back to the main dimension after the Kirby clash games.

    • @kickatemi7738
      @kickatemi7738 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dream friends are NOT canon, HAL confirmed that

    • @riroufudo
      @riroufudo ปีที่แล้ว

      Link?

    • @ZackFair89
      @ZackFair89 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kickatemi7738They are.

    • @kickatemi7738
      @kickatemi7738 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ZackFair89 Dark Metaknight is still trapped, marx is dead, magolor is in another dimension, susie is still working on conquering planets. The good ones could canonically appear in other games, but HAL said they don't want to mess with the storiline, dark metaknight will always be evil, and marx had never had the chanse to redeem itself. I remeber to you that this characters are from dlcs, the game its competable without them. Of course you have to know that all the arenas arren't canon.

  • @joquieshajones5243
    @joquieshajones5243 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    My theory is that the master crown is housing none other than Dark Matter, a different form of it. This is because their are many other forms of Dark Matter that are even from different dimension, which can be seen with Dark Mind. And notice that the eye of the tree entity moves in a simaler pattern that Dark Matter does in Dream Land 2, that with the fact that it posseses Magolor's body and soul just like Dark Matter does to Dedede. Also when Magolor is whering the crown in the first phase of his fight, I like to imagen that the three claws on his head are drilling inside of him and slowly eating at his soul.

    • @teshindax3683
      @teshindax3683 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zero 3?

    • @reggielacey2235
      @reggielacey2235 ปีที่แล้ว

      No.

    • @reggielacey2235
      @reggielacey2235 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@teshindax3683 not every dark matter is zero

    • @kickatemi7738
      @kickatemi7738 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wait, probably more like void. Dark matter, zero, zero two and dark nebula are probably more reincarnation of void termina, like kirby.

    • @3DSCarnaje
      @3DSCarnaje ปีที่แล้ว

      The master crown absolutely is a form of dark matter. The only proof you need is that in the soul form phase of the fight magolor has the dark matter eye in his mouth.

  • @louiethemusician5928
    @louiethemusician5928 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Even in the first game the crown was sentient. In the Demon Magolor phase, the one where he looks terrifying, you are not fighting Magolor, you're fighting the Master Crown that has his body as a host.

  • @IBW_3000
    @IBW_3000 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Another interesting bit is that nearly all of Magolor’s attacks during his fight are just his base abilities amplified up. The biggest power boost is that he can now open wormholes. So it may be that the crown (or the entity inside it) just boosts already existing power.

    • @reggielacey2235
      @reggielacey2235 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Also the ultra sword

    • @SpScarletSpider
      @SpScarletSpider ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That would explain Marx's moveset in Star Allies. Using these Ancient artifacts or stuff like Nova probably amplifies your existing power set.

  • @AndroEnergenic
    @AndroEnergenic ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Here's what I think how the story goes. Return to Dream Land Deluxe was just a recap of what happened before Magolor Epilogue, then when we play as Magolor that's when the story is getting kinda weird. He went to Super Kirby Clash, somehow got back to the original universe and then now currently made a theme park which is Merry Magoland. It said that Merry Magoland was from a DIFFERENT time. So what I'm guessing is that Magolor working on his theme park is his current state rn.
    (Here's the story order on my theory.)
    Kirby's Return to Dream Land - Magolor Epilogue - Super Kirby Clash - Merry Magoland

    • @MySnugglePuppy
      @MySnugglePuppy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Merry magoland isn’t canon because when Landia shows up, it’s still wearing the master crown.

    • @PaulRodela
      @PaulRodela ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@MySnugglePuppyI don’t feel like that’s enough proof to say it’s not canon.

    • @samschofield9452
      @samschofield9452 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MySnugglePuppy really?

    • @AndroEnergenic
      @AndroEnergenic ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@PaulRodela yeah honestly

    • @reggielacey2235
      @reggielacey2235 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@Molly Johnson different timelines

  • @PoketronPokey404
    @PoketronPokey404 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    The Eye of the master crown in the Gem Apple Tree looks like one of the weakpoint eyes you see during the fight against void termina in Kirby star allies, so maybe during The Galactic Crisis part of termina prior to being sealed probably got part if its body sliced off and considering Termina can make a projection of the master crown in star allies would mean that Termina while whole actually made the crown from Return to Dreamland before being defeated by Galacta knight and the heros.
    Super Kirby Clash is actually a Sequel to Team Kirby Clash Deluxe and not a reboot, because in the 3ds version Taranza is the villain of the game and mind controls the monsters and summons King-D Mind from the Dark Mirror. After The 3ds Team Kirby defeats King-D-Mind a second time they sent King-D Mind back where he came from and the mirror shattered which made Tarzana turn good and come to his senses. In Super Kirby Clash Taranza is only evil in one fight because of Parallel Nightmare and after defeat he regains his sanity and mostly chills on the roof of the shoppe the rest of the game with a flower. Also King-D Mind was able to return because Parallel Nightmare used a portal to summon The Dark King because the mirror was destroyed in the 3ds version
    Also Theory: The Gem Apple Seed has the ability to create new alternate realities which would explain why Parallel Nightmare exists and The Dreamscape before the battle against Aeon Hero (Light) could be the birthplace of The Fountain of Dreams and Star Rod, but because it was in shambles before the start of The Aeon Hero (Light) fight, the Star Rod and Fountain most likely never existed. It would also explain Parallel Susie is the President of The Haltman Works Company instead of Haltman because Haltman probably actually died during the reactivation of Star Dream instead of Susie being sent to a dimension and surviving. It also explains the possibility of Dark Mind achieving his goals for conquering the Mirror world through most likely Shadow Dedede's Body. Galacta Knight was also never absorbed by the Butterfly because if The Fountain is broken the Star Rod was never made, then that means The Ancients were still together, because The Mage Sisters are relaxing at the village in the background instead of trying to revive Void Termina. Kirby is most likely a species with a population instead of being only one creature, because in Super Kirby Clash for Switch the town doesn't know about the player Kirby which means that The Team Kirby of Super Kirby Clash is a newer generation of the Kirby Species and The Team Kirby of the 3ds game is an older generation of heroes.

    • @samschofield9452
      @samschofield9452 ปีที่แล้ว

      TERMINA?! ok now we just need to Link Mario to Kirby and Kinkio (kirby link mario) will be real.

    • @samschofield9452
      @samschofield9452 ปีที่แล้ว

      is this a theory or an essay?!

    • @samschofield9452
      @samschofield9452 ปีที่แล้ว

      nevermind i didnt need to mention termina because kirby can just turn into link

    • @adamnakamura8003
      @adamnakamura8003 ปีที่แล้ว

      “I like this!”

  • @Pollux11
    @Pollux11 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    The “Ancient Evil” in the crown is Void Termina or a form of Dark Matter I’m pretty sure basing off the fact Void spawned one.

    • @Classic-guy1991
      @Classic-guy1991 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      We know it’s dark matter but i don’t think it’s void im extremely sure that return to dream land takes place before star allies

    • @teshindax3683
      @teshindax3683 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Zero 3?

    • @samschofield9452
      @samschofield9452 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@teshindax3683 why have you typed the same thing twice? I know it's very important but you dont need to repeat it over and over.

    • @Pollux11
      @Pollux11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @CreepCalamity apparently Void isn’t related to Kirby and purely mocked him and we still don’t know what he is

    • @Dank-lk2mk
      @Dank-lk2mk ปีที่แล้ว

      @@teshindax3683 dark nebula is zero 3

  • @Yoshigamingchannel
    @Yoshigamingchannel ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The background looks like halacandra you can see egg engines in the background

  • @LucasBarre69501
    @LucasBarre69501 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Maybe what’s happening in the background is the “nightmare of a galactic crisis” that Hyness mencioned in star Allies.

  • @storytime380
    @storytime380 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sinister Elmo

    • @Bozoraz
      @Bozoraz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LMAO

  • @Repiforce-Navigator
    @Repiforce-Navigator ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I think the reason Magolor may have a way back to dream land thanks to the gem apples, i mean In super kirby clash he only accepted gem apples and if the dream kingdom has a type of currency that isn't gem apples why would he sell armor for gem apples? To power him up, while collecting pieces of the gem apple seed magolor gets granted more of his strength, maybe when Magolor does with the gem apples is to find a way back to dreamland and apologize to Kirby

  • @jamesmackay4913
    @jamesmackay4913 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    My thoughts:
    * Great video
    * Great theories
    * Pretty sure RPG Monger mentioned that Void Termina summoned Master Crowns in Star Allies
    * Master Crown has an eye
    * Master Crown is connected to / a part of dark matter?
    * That one apocalyptic place could be forgotten land, halcandra, shiver Star, or somewhere new, but what is up with the building with the planet on top?
    Overall, great video :)

  • @warpstarrogue3554
    @warpstarrogue3554 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    For the confusion between the main plot and Magoland being an alternate dimension, it's hard to explain but I think it's 2011 Magolor from the original wii game who made the park. Thanks to the epiloge, we know what happens to the fella who falls into the dream kingdom dimension and gains his funds there (Through our pockets like the little gremlin he is) before returning to dreamland to make the place as a big apology. However, I believe due to not having enough experience in making dimensional rifts and the fact he doesn't have the Lor for pinpoint location, he ends up going to a point in time way before even crashing on Popstar, eventually for him to go "ah well" and build it anyway and letting it evolve into the area we see in the deluxe edition.

  • @PoyoDreamer
    @PoyoDreamer ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I don't think that city background during the fight with the master crown was the forgotten land because the forgotten land was once a human civilization that chose to leave their planet. W have already theorize the Halcandra was the home of the ancients thanks to Meteorz, but if you look closely at the background you can see some towers that are part of egg engines, farther proving that the ancients lived on halcandra until something bad happed to them.

    • @thedukeconiosantiago9180
      @thedukeconiosantiago9180 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      nah, gotta understand there technology skyrocketed just from one entity alone. so it's possible

  • @sevenmastergamer9261
    @sevenmastergamer9261 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I wonder if the other games after return to dreamland that was before the switch games will get the same treatment, triple deluxe getting a taranza epilogue and Robobot getting a Susie epilogue

    • @SpoopyKrown
      @SpoopyKrown ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Rather a Susie Prologue to see her journey in the other dimension.

    • @ylann6106
      @ylann6106 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Taranza epilogue so he can bring back my queen

    • @ps9623
      @ps9623 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't think so, i think they gave it to magalor cuz he's a bit more popular

  • @aeroon9991
    @aeroon9991 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When you realize that the Dream Kingdom is this sort of half-canon, half not-canon copy dimension where Magolor is sent to begin anew...
    You also realize that he eventually had to make the choice between staying with his new "fake" friends who knew not of the atrocities he's committed, or returning to Dreamland and his real friends who he regretted stabbing in the hack.
    That probably hurts... A Lot.

    • @idosarts_and_krafts
      @idosarts_and_krafts ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also
      The fact that our boi galacta knight is still alive and thriving

  • @LucasBarre69501
    @LucasBarre69501 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Finally you are talking about this AWSOME finale!

  • @trinityskitz7929
    @trinityskitz7929 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think it's a very safe assumption that the evil energy within the crown is Dark Matter himself or remnants of his sentience.

  • @beefoon9517
    @beefoon9517 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I think that Magalor might have completely corrupted the Master Crown, fusing itself with the darkness within Magalors soul to create the evil Crown we see in Magalors epilogue. Magalor is essentially defeating the darkness within his soul in a sort of way. The Ancients might have created the Master Crown to be used by one of the 4 heroes to possibly take down and seal Void Termina as evidenced by it using a sort of project of the Master Crown in it's fight in Star Allies. Memories and emotion have always been a huge part of the Kirby series especially as of late, Void Termina again being a huge example of this as it uses the generals weapons for it's attacks (some other examples include Kirby using the power of love and friendship to befriend even his worst enemies, Haltmann influencing Star Dream with his want to mechanize planets, and Forgo holding onto it's hate for the inhabitants of the Forrgotten Land for possibly centuries.) All of this to say that I believe the Master Crown is based upon the the dreams, memories, and intentions of the wearer. The Ancients wanted to seal Void Termina? Done. Landia wanted to defend the Crown and Halcandra from evil? Done. Magalor wants unlimited power and to be the ruler of all the universe? Done. The only reason those last two failed was because Kirby was there, but even still Magalor came scarily close to destroying Popstar and the rest of the universe. The Crown was infested by Magalors own dark desires, corrupting Magalors body and becoming a near unstoppable force of pure evil.
    TL;DR: The Master Crown is influenced by emotions and intent which is why it becomes evil

  • @RobsTheMemer
    @RobsTheMemer ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nin10doland is back with an epic video!(also hi)

  • @battletapesrecording
    @battletapesrecording ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Magolor Epilogue is heree

  • @robbiekeller
    @robbiekeller ปีที่แล้ว +5

    When you first enter merry magoland i think it says that that magalor in merry magoland comes from a different dimension and different time so maybe that means that the magolor we saved in kirbys return to dreamland on the wii did build the amusement park and the magolor we saved on switch just got a different ending where he ended up in a different world(the dream world) thats what i think atleast

  • @ninjalex9791
    @ninjalex9791 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wouldn't it be crazy if Magalor's fight with the corrupted tree at the end was in the forgotten land. During Kirby's fight with Elfilis, wether it's the normal fight or the colosseum fight, but the fight was intercepted by Elfilis creating a bunch of portals.

  • @thesupreme2
    @thesupreme2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I thought he would fight morpho knight but I could not have expected the true final boss…

  • @incendiaryplague277
    @incendiaryplague277 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The fact that he decides to take on a new role as the shope really makes me wonder if those games, or at least one of them, is actually Canon at least in some strange way, considering that the kirby subgames like these usually aren’t.

  • @MySnugglePuppy
    @MySnugglePuppy ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I’m pretty sure that the place in the background of the final battle is egg engines, since we see that it was partially destroyed during the main story events. Perhaps an evil force attacked egg engines, and that same force was the sealed evil in the crown. It makes sense that the past egg engines would be similar to the forgotten land if they really were made by the same ancients, as both games imply. I also think that after the evil was sealed away, the ancients evacuated to other places since halcandra seemed too unsafe of a place to live anymore. Maybe they even moved to pop star, or possibly shiver star as well.

  • @craftingtales2790
    @craftingtales2790 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Actually, the Magolor Epilogue shows the EX Magolor being defeated, implying EX mode takes place between Story Mode and the Magolor Epilogue.

  • @pupuhiroehvidah
    @pupuhiroehvidah ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So, one of directors of KATFL, said that after KRTDL events, Magolor started to live em Dream Land, and i think that Mags passed a lot of years isolated and one day he Appeared in SA as a friend, for help Kirby, and now he build a park for apologize
    (SORRY FOR BAD ENG I'M NOT AMERICAN LOL)

    • @samschofield9452
      @samschofield9452 ปีที่แล้ว

      your bad english actually makes it sound better then if you had typed that correctly

    • @pupuhiroehvidah
      @pupuhiroehvidah ปีที่แล้ว

      @@samschofield9452 Oh, thank u :)

    • @samschofield9452
      @samschofield9452 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pupuhiroehvidah you're welcome! :D

  • @JustJack2005
    @JustJack2005 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Simply put, the Clash games are alternate dimensions.

  • @MySnugglePuppy
    @MySnugglePuppy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I know I already commented, but you missed the fact that the dream kingdom is an alternate reality, and super clash isn’t a sequel to clash deluxe since nobody seems to remember that plot. Also, if I had to guess, magolor spent all those gem apples on materials and some sort of dimensional gate allowing him access to the main timeline. Also Nintendo didn’t make kirby, HAL laboratory did.

  • @skistorm739
    @skistorm739 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    maybe the ancient use a shpere doomer to create the master crown own thing stable enough to let use someone use the crown or make it corrupting itself.

  • @drswag0076
    @drswag0076 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the arena might be the forgotten land during the rampage of Fecto Elfilis. remember he wrecked the land before he was captured and studied.

  • @t2dxreem120
    @t2dxreem120 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I remember a theory saying when you fight the Master crown it was likely a ruined egg engines in halcandra. It was likely since this was Halcandra in the past when Magolor attacked. While I don’t know if it’s true, I think it’s likely given a lot of these dimensions are based on memories and events that were done in the past.

  • @King_Dedede_Primus_TF
    @King_Dedede_Primus_TF ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Can you explain about magolor soul from the true arena and the new theme which has some strange sounds with it

  • @Muchinger
    @Muchinger ปีที่แล้ว +21

    What if the merry magoland was build in the dream kingdom of kirby clash, seeing how kirby and his friends in this other dimension (don't forget that thanks to the descriptions of void, we know that kirby can exist in every dimension) don't know magolors past, so they trust him, being that gem apple merchant who equipt them with gear to safe their world

    • @teshindax3683
      @teshindax3683 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      thats what i thought to

    • @reggielacey2235
      @reggielacey2235 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a different timeliness. His clothes are different. Also void can exist in every dimension not kirby.

    • @Muchinger
      @Muchinger ปีที่แล้ว

      @@reggielacey2235 and what can void turn into? Either Dark Matter or Kirby

  • @jakubklemenski7380
    @jakubklemenski7380 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Can we talk about the nightmare that is New Magolor Soul, please?

  • @karljohnson9399
    @karljohnson9399 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    the evil inside the crown is void termina because void termina used the crown as a laser in star allies meaning it survievd magolor and the 4 heros may have sealed it twice or, since
    void exists in all dimensions the master crown itself could be another dimensions version or copy of void after magolor and the tree get 1 Eyeball, also this could mean that the ancients
    gave landia the crown as a guardian of its power, there could've been others who maybe lived in halcandra but landia Settled in witch is why it looks like the a volcanic wasteland, also
    when landia saw magolor ship i can see why they shot it down.

  • @connorj1165
    @connorj1165 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Well it’s cool how in the end of the Story Mode in Kirby’s Return to Dreamland Deluxe how you defeat Magolor and then Magolor goes to another dimension and you have to help him restore his powers and helping him out of this dimension he’s in but I like in the final battle against the Master Crown I like how in the background it does kinda look like the final battle against Fecto Elfilis and I wonder what would happen if Fecto Elfilis and the Master Crown did decided to work together to take over the kingdom but at the end I wonder why they wanted to make this game take place in Super Kirby Clash for some reason? And also how Magolor made this amusement park for Kirby and his friends? But my question would be how does this dimension that Magolor’s in compares to the other dimension where Kirby and his friends are at? And now since we got a new mode for Magolor my next question would be would their be new modes for Taranza and Susie Haltmann if Triple Deluxe and Planet Robobot both got reboots to the Nintendo Switch? And then the final question would be since Magolor is now friends with Kirby would Kirby, Elfilin, and Magolor try to find the agents that made the Master Crown and also other stuff they did around planet Popstar? And then the last and final question would be is what are the other masks in the game? Like for Susie or Magolor or any other characters you know something like that? But the game was pretty fun it’s kinda sad how we don’t have masks for Tiff, Tuff, and Escargoon and how they don’t have Marx in the game and also still not liking the club penguin design of King Dedede but I can’t wait to see what new stuff you’ll talk about this game and yeah

    • @MySnugglePuppy
      @MySnugglePuppy ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you ever heard of punctuation? Look, I just used it there, and now here.

    • @connorj1165
      @connorj1165 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MySnugglePuppy Have you ever heard of shut up and leave me alone? Cause I think that's what you should do

    • @samschofield9452
      @samschofield9452 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MySnugglePuppy they used at least 5 question marks and that counts as punctuation so shut up

    • @ps9623
      @ps9623 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@connorj1165just like you should use punctuation, not that hard.

    • @connorj1165
      @connorj1165 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ps9623 How about I don’t frickin care and leave me alone!

  • @goldbloxxer8833
    @goldbloxxer8833 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Master Crown is Dark Matter. We have had Dark Matter fights in the Kirby series before. Like Dedede being possessed by Dark Matter and others being possessed as well. In Kirby 64 the crystal shards dark matter appears as a villain.
    Not only that but Magolor's final phase in his fight shows dark matters appearance as it always has been. A dark circle with 1 Red Eye. Exactly what we see with dark matter.

  • @patricklutz8771
    @patricklutz8771 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a final Splat Fest theory. The final splat fest will be sharks,eels, and manta rays. Witch ever team wins that is the animal we will be in the next game.

    • @therealchaosguy
      @therealchaosguy ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunately there probably won't be a Splatoon 4

  • @anwenlokier2292
    @anwenlokier2292 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Well in my school vr game the master crown is revealed to have a previous host then Landia Pacificly a unknown entity known as void elfilies a unknown powerhouse the only thing was known about void elfilies is that it soul was removed from it's body as the body was damaged beyond control and repair my friend iwan bassit speculated that void elfilies soul is in the crown but there's a problem the time code of it a flashback to 300 years ago and this is a problem at the time was the calamity war and the only time the crown is linked to the calamity war is the clashing between Goalius and the holy king novis because the crown is the same the only difference is during the boss fight Novis is using a sword not a spear

  • @cjabbott6588
    @cjabbott6588 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is the snow boss .Cora Mondo’s child

  • @samschofield9452
    @samschofield9452 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the first letter of each dimension's name in the Magolor epilogue spells apple if you count ethereal altar as the fifth.

  • @skistorm739
    @skistorm739 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember when the host is gone own the emotion left behind maybe the evil energy got out of crown an gem place on it to self the evil they created? an use look Pokémon scarlet and violet new legendries of dlc you like it

  • @teshindax3683
    @teshindax3683 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i think that the kirby clash games are in another dimension with their own kirby just like the mirror dimension has its own kirby, and we know thanks to the pause screen of Void (all of them) that he is a multi dimensional being that exists in ALL dimensions, and that kirby , like Zero, is an incarnation of Void, just made with Positive energy . My guess is that after the epilogue magolor was sent to another dimension, the Kirby clash Dimension, and for super kirby clash he re-intros him self cause normal Kirby clash hes in the main city, SKC takes place in the same place just in a port town of the dream kingdom. also the Boss against Master crown (this is my head cannon dont blast me please) takes place in a pre landia Halcandra, and that halcandra is an ancient inhabited place as the Lor starcutter was FROM Halcandra and its confermed to be ancient tech, with the dimensional travel that they use in the ship. the Crown wanted to rampage so it went to halcandra and wrecked house to what it is today (also you cant hide an entire PLANTET in another dimension and NOT have some Time Paradoxes).

  • @spv4711
    @spv4711 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think that it's because magolor knew that the Kirby in Kirby clash and Kirby Clash Deluxe are not the same Kirby that defeated him and who knows maybe the gem apples are what allowed him to return to Dreamland

  • @naughtymelon6712
    @naughtymelon6712 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In classic Kirby fashion, the first letters of all the worlds spells out a word that is important to the story
    Aerogree
    Pyred
    Possiblu
    Locandra
    A-P-P-L, as in the Crystal APPLES.

  • @alili1996
    @alili1996 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you fight Metal General or play the first Egg Engine stage, take a good look at the background. You can see the building looking plane control tower from the master crown fight being crudely rebuilt and the saturn looking figure being reused on another tower.
    I am completely positive that the fight displays the past destruction of Halcandra.
    The fact that the architecture style looks so similar to the forgotten land adds more credibility to the theory that the former inhabitants of the forgotten land are the ancients and populated Halcandra

  • @VeryTallMidget83
    @VeryTallMidget83 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Magolor turned into Doctor Strange the Capitalist.

  • @Daigle34.
    @Daigle34. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When we think about it, kirby went in a dimensional rip to land on the forgotten. And if we also pretend that the event of the epilog was BEEFOR forgoten land (return to dreamland wii) could that means that the Master crown, in a last action, possed elfilis to cause some caos and get his hown revenge of kirby.

  • @funtimegamer8733
    @funtimegamer8733 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So, something worth mentioning. The master crown appears not to be possessed, but rather has dark matter infused with it. That's why the magolor soul boss uses attacks that are consistent among other beings possessed by or linked to dark matter. The crown was made by the ancients of halcandra afterall, they have a history with using dark matter as a resource. Whats interesting though, is that void termina uses the master crown for its attacks. Maybe void termina is a reincarnation of the matter that was housed inside the now broken master crown?

  • @leaunteagraff687
    @leaunteagraff687 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The entity inside the crown has to be Dark Matter, right? I mean the eye on the crown in Magolor's ultra form, the eye in Magolor soul's mouth, and now the eye on the tree!?! There are way to many eyes for it to not be Dark Matter.

    • @Cyborg2457
      @Cyborg2457 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It could be zer0 too

    • @syrusgrove8682
      @syrusgrove8682 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Cyborg2457 Which is also Dark Matter.

    • @Cyborg2457
      @Cyborg2457 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@syrusgrove8682 oh wait yea

  • @AfroXaolin2023
    @AfroXaolin2023 ปีที่แล้ว

    This ancient evil you speak of, DEFINITELY hints at Void Termina. We do know that some of the Halcandran Ancients (Hyness) worshipped a “Matter Most Dark” For the seemingly limitless power it gave at the cost of their entire being. So they could’ve attempted to seal Void’s power into their relics to harness it more effectively. Unfortunately, Void’s power would propagate and permeate the relics it’s fragments would inhabit. Like the Master Crown.

  • @monitorlizardkid8253
    @monitorlizardkid8253 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Given that both zero and the master crown have a connection to void(in "kirby star allies") is it possible that zero used that connection to manifest his remaining essence in the crown? Especially at the end of the true arena, during the secret second phase of the Magolor Soul fight.

  • @ThatCaroleanMouse
    @ThatCaroleanMouse ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Magolor introduces himself because he is talking with a parallel Kirby

  • @sammoore2082
    @sammoore2082 ปีที่แล้ว

    OR the place where you fight the master crown could be Halacandra back in it's prime. Remember the ancients didn't just travel to one part of the universe, but many, spreading their advancements in tech and magic with them. I think the area we see is a place and time in the past when Halacandra was in it's prime before falling to an unknown force into ruins, more specifically the ruins known as egg engines today. That's the thought that struck me when I first reached the end of Magolor's epilogue.

  • @jeromemagat3702
    @jeromemagat3702 ปีที่แล้ว

    i think at the end where he starts fresh his color changes to green to show his soul is now pure and kirby sees the color and dosent remember him or he tricks everyone into thinking hes someone else so he can start new with his friends

  • @skelly2278
    @skelly2278 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:45 and thus, magolor obtained the power of microtransactions. with this legendary power, he defeated the master crown with the starlight sword DX

  • @Applexsin
    @Applexsin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lore=Bomb=🍪=Plane=crash=Death💀=100 years later= People forget and be like:Lore who?

  • @bradleyadams5252
    @bradleyadams5252 ปีที่แล้ว

    My theory on the doomers being connected with the crown: they used to be halcondrans. The non-boss doomer enemies all have similar traits to halcondrian residents, with some even having the same horns that magalor has, and the shpear doomers all dissolve into the same black smoke that the crown emits. I think that the Grand doomer used to be halcondria's king, which is why he is the one trying to reasemble and restore the crown in the sub mode. This is also the reason why the crown seeming got corrupted AGAIN despite magalor not coming into contact with it, the Grand doomer didn't come from the crown, the crown came from him.

  • @reggielacey2235
    @reggielacey2235 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ACTUALLY the magalorland thing is a different timeliness, landia still has the master crown

  • @_Bob-Omb_
    @_Bob-Omb_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It confirms that clash is canon so maybe this means that fighters and dream buffet also might be canon

  • @Jentrasa
    @Jentrasa ปีที่แล้ว

    I also believe that the final boss took place in the forgotten land. The tower on the left with hexagonal roof and control tower resembles the same one from fectos boss fight. It even has satellite dishes up there.

  • @blendercouldren8063
    @blendercouldren8063 ปีที่แล้ว

    The crown isn’t evil itself it only brings out the evil in the users heart. That was a message from a pause screen.

  • @lasercraft32
    @lasercraft32 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love how they made Magolor a redeemable and somewhat self-centered anti-hero rather than a pure villain... and even managed to make you sympathize with him. He never really intended for all that world domination stuff to happen, but the Master Crown amplifies the evil in the wearer's heart and consumes their soul. According to his dialogue in Merry Magoland, he always dreamed of building a theme park. And in the Kirby Clash games he provides armor and weapons to help Kirby and even lets him pick gem apples from the tree he planted, so we know for a fact he's not inherently evil (microtransaction jokes or not... I don't think that part is canon in lore).
    They also made a previously non-canon game canon, made lore to explain the in-game currency, and even came up with an in-lore reason for why Magolor wields his own stylized Ultra Sword in Star Allies! And Magolor getting trapped in another dimension after the events of Return to Dreamland isn't a new development... its actually been known for a while. But up until Magolor Epilogue we didn't know _how_ he escaped.

  • @samschofield9452
    @samschofield9452 ปีที่แล้ว

    i havent watched your videos in a bit but i like the new intro!

  • @lasercraft32
    @lasercraft32 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't think that shaking at the end was because of anger... I was under the impression it was him being overcome with emotion because he finally accomplished his goal after loads of hardship to finally escape and leave behind his past troubles (hence the reason he wipes away tears right afterwards).
    Also... the Dream Kingdom (as far as I know) is supposed to take place in an alternate universe or realm or something. The Kirby from that world doesn't know Magolor, hence why he would reintroduce himself when you talk to him.
    (I'd also like to note that the symbols on the floor at the ancient altar are identical to the symbol on King D Mind's hammer and Parallel Susie's mech in the Kirby Clash games, which has lore implications we have yet to discover... As well as that, a replica of the Master Crown is also used by Void Termina in Star Allies, implying a connection between Void Termina and the Crown).

  • @roxannegray5990
    @roxannegray5990 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't think Magolor is completely reformed yet. In Super Kirby Clash, when you grow the Gem Apple Tree to max height, Magolor says, "My secret plan is one step closer to completion." Is he also planning something with the super-deluxed armor and the masks and gold statues in Merry Magoland? Also, when he's repowering his abilities in the Epilogue he says he wants to attack a city in the sky. Is that a clue to the next Kirby game?

  • @Notyourstodisclose
    @Notyourstodisclose ปีที่แล้ว

    Here’s a more likely suggestion: the area where the final boss is actually the Forgotten Lands themselves during the apocalypse taking place.

  • @nasumyorwell9544
    @nasumyorwell9544 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe is his slogan for his shop, like a mascot, saying his name to anyone who come to buy

  • @jma0645
    @jma0645 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I find it fitting that magolor had to destroy the crown to get back to the regular dimension
    In a way cutting (both figuratively and literally lmao) his ties to his craving of power and evil
    And then he became a capitalist and the turned into Walt Disney
    Also i believe that the final battle background could be the forgotten land or alternative it could be somewhere around egg engines

  • @stevenlenz599
    @stevenlenz599 ปีที่แล้ว

    Something I noticed about the Tree Crown’s design that I haven’t seen anyone else mention yet is how… familiar it looks. The wings, the halo, the big pointy root at the bottom, the blood red flower with the eye in the middle… perhaps this gives us an idea as to what kind of dark forces reside within the crown.

  • @josemariaruiz1879
    @josemariaruiz1879 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    First I used to say the butterfly of the demon was behind everything… But it was the crown…

  • @danixove2358
    @danixove2358 ปีที่แล้ว

    My main issue is... you can actually see Merry Magoland in the background of at least one level in Popstar (Nutty Noon level 1), during Kirby's adventure prior to fixing the ship
    So, as weird as it sounds, I guess Magolor built the park before going all final boss. Which tracks with the game not only allowing, but encouraging, the player to switch between the theme park and the adventure at any time.

  • @Brendanowl
    @Brendanowl 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When Landia broke the ship again, I was all like:
    I JUST CLEANED UP THIS MESS. COULD YOU KEEP IT CLEAN FOR LIKE, TEN MINUTES! (The Incredibles)

  • @KrishGandhi787
    @KrishGandhi787 ปีที่แล้ว

    The ancient evil seems to a type of *dark matter* , which originates from *void* .

  • @kickatemi7738
    @kickatemi7738 ปีที่แล้ว

    This explains a lot about the acients.
    We know that were two tipes of them:
    Mages and scientist.
    Star Dream have realy similar attaks and abilities to the master crown.
    I think that the scientist, for fight the mages, crated star dream as a personal master crown. But like the real one, also this corrupt who controls it.
    I think another prove is that the heart in star dream's "chest" is similar to void termina's face. Maybye the computer was a scientist's void termina and master crown.
    We also know that mages defeated with galacta knight void termina and void termina can summon 4 master crowns.
    The mages used void termina powers to create the master crown. Basically at the end the acients are the cause of all the problems that hitted dream land.

  • @winstonnielsen1567
    @winstonnielsen1567 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the tree had the crown atached to it some how

  • @Fort7856
    @Fort7856 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a theory, what if the big Master Crown tree is just Whispy Woods in the dimension Magalor was in, because we don't get to fight to Whispy Woods in the first boss fight. The first boss fight was Electricity Dooter. So the Master Crown might have hung onto Whispy.

  • @TutorialBox.
    @TutorialBox. ปีที่แล้ว

    When the crown becomes a tree the place is Kirby and the forgotten world before overgrown with wild life as you can see the bridge and tower ont the left

  • @Nin10doCentral
    @Nin10doCentral 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So Magolor actually wanted the Master Crown for himself from the beginning. He didn’t care what it did to him until he got possessed and started recklessly attacking Kirby. In the true arena, we hear Magolor very quietly calling out to Kirby for help, but Kirby knew that Magolor was such a threat, he had no choice but to kill him for the future of Planet Popstar. Magolor felt bad for what he did.

  • @luigipowdemo6458
    @luigipowdemo6458 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder, did Magolor know Hyness? Actually, how do we know that Hyness wasn't on the Lor Starcutter when it was first shot down by Landia? And where the heck did that tree come from?

  • @theenderkirby
    @theenderkirby ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well I have some theories first and for most the fight against the master crown tree look like is on egg engine rather than the forgotten land I look on some of the backrounds of this level and is seems like is egg engines especially from the backround on the metal general fight, as for the shpere doomers I feel like those are made from dimensional and dark matter for that regard when an ancients technology stay for enough time or in the case of the crowned doomer got a lot of this energy, as for trying to make a consistent timeline with kirby clash the epilogue and merry magoland I belive is like this the magolor epilogue happened after triple deluxe and planet robobot, I will go that only one of the clash kirby games is canon I will stick to super kirby clash but free to tell me if clash deluxe or team kirby clash are the canon ones, as for what I belive kirby forgot about magolor himself maybe the time magolor was gone was so long that kirby pretty much forget about him consider we really only talk to magolor in the group and no one else is with him so I belive kirby just forgot who is magolor and magolor just try to keep low profile foe his redemption arc, kirby get more and more on his memories on magolor in star I just say he took handsin the journey to help him and that explain how kirby and magolor know each other and talk like normal to one anither the events of merry magoland I belive happened in the very tail end of the timeline to make the kirby and the forgotten land masks more sense why they existand I think is pretty straight foward magolor got financially strong during the post star allies events and I say somewhere after elfilis got defeated for the first time he already started to make magoland for the dream kingdom he pretty much left it as he basically a nomad for himself and saw the fully grown gem apple as he truly redeem himself and can progress even more.
    So that my overall theory to make stuff clear please let me know your thoughts and if you agree or disagree

  • @walnutinc961
    @walnutinc961 ปีที่แล้ว

    The fire destroying the city looks a lot like the fire used in Morpho knights attacks.

  • @sinteleon
    @sinteleon ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd think it's very clear that Kirby in the Kirby Clash series is NOT the regular Kirby we all know and love, since (1) there's more than 1 Kirby, and (2) they do not appear to have regular kirby abilities (all of the modified specifically for Kirby Clash and Kirby Clash only, all of them having the special property of not being able to be knocked out of Kirby, and Kirby does not appear to have a base non-ability state). Having said that, it clearly explains why Magalor would need to reintroduce himself.

  • @jinx1987
    @jinx1987 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always thought Kirby Clash was in an alternate universe with its own Kirby so that’s why no one recognizes him

  • @Bagguteyum
    @Bagguteyum ปีที่แล้ว

    That beast appears to be in the area that forgotten land took place in

  • @jamesmcdavid1673
    @jamesmcdavid1673 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My headcanon is that the Dream Kingdom is a land populated exclusively by Kirbys. That handily explains why it's so commonplace for them to team up, and why Magalor introduces himself again in Kirby Clash and Super Kirby Clash. They're Kirby, but not THE Kirby.

  • @Yoshigamingchannel
    @Yoshigamingchannel ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think shopkeeper magolor has a white cloak because of this new mode ruining it

  • @davisroth5437
    @davisroth5437 ปีที่แล้ว

    My theory is that the dream kingdom in Super Kirby Clash is a parallel universe with a completely different Kirby

  • @TiredBeing
    @TiredBeing ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think that the dimesion during the final fight is the world from forgotten land