Continually Variable Transmission with Clutch & Reverse
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
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I previously built an omni-directional robot with ball-shaped wheels. Each wheel had a hemisphere which if free moving. There were some suggestions that these hemispheres could be powered, although we'd have to vary the velocity as the main axel rotates because a small circumference will be touching the ground. We can use this to our advantage however to make a continually variable reduction or continually variable transmission (CVT). Often CVTs use belts running between two pulleys which can change diameter, but in this video we're going to use a ball.
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Lol, new demographic?
This mechanism would be perfect to be powered by a flywheel... *looking at you, Tom Stanton*
Great idea aha
Somehow he would make a trebuchet out of it.
*desire for flywheel monorail grows*
I have no idea what makes you think that, flywheels require efficiency that this mechanism cannot have
If you had a flywheel geared to drive that main drive gear and had a small motor running at its most efficient speed, then instead of the neutral space on the sphere gears, have it somehow take that inertia of the wheels back to the fly wheel you could have regenerative breaking and then the whole think in theory could be quite efficient because it would overall be driven by a very small light weight motor?
Robot arm with CVT. This would be cool. Thank you for inspiration!
hey skyntefic
hi Skyentific , good to see you here,
could you add a gravitational balancing feature, it would be really beneficial for most arm projects.
Excited to see what you do with it, Skyentific! =D
somewhat reminds me of dasa arm
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a CVT proberbly wont be enogh as it can't put torque on the output shaft while not spinning, you'd need an IVT for that
Remember when this guy was just doing fancy cosplay? This is the first Ive seen from you in years and I cant wait to catch up! Impressive stuff!
Oh, you've missed a lot if you haven't watched since his cosplay builds. You're going to enjoy it. :)
@@StevenIngram Im seeing that haha, ive been binging his new stuff and its great!
brilliant
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Those omni-wheels are mesmerizing as fuck.
you need to work on your vocabulary.
Really clever clutch mechanism, I'd imagined something like the little wheel your omniwheels have so it can idle on the drive wheel, but your way is much simpler and better
There is one downside to its use on this particular testbed style of machine - as there is no braking options that wheel is free to run so you can't 'turn it off' and steer around it 100% predictably - its a very neat execution of the mechanism don't get me wrong, but on that tank steering testbed the clutch freewheeling can lead to steering troubles when you wish to turn around one side or other and the free wheel just rolls so you instead get an uncontrolled veering in the direction you want (as the free wheel still has friction and resistance) - simple enough to avoid in practice if you can accept not being able to just turn the one side against a stopped other i.e the very tight radius but not 'on the spot' turns - as in effect it can only turn 'on the spot' (reversing side B from side A) or at any of the wider radius when side B is just solidly engaged and side A is however much faster you desire to create that radius of turn. Add in a brake for each wheel and that trouble goes away entirely too.
This would be a great setup to use for a huge steam or gas engine powered robot. Something that the power source would not be as responsive as a stepper.
My thought exactly. Hook this up to like a lawn mower engine, which isn't normally conductive to electronic control. Make a nimble robotic lawnmower!
Like a sterling engine!
Nice, made all in copper. The cvt's could be copper toilet floats.
Oh and instead of servos you could use valves and actuators. The sterling engine could also generate the pressure to move them and the power for communication.
Yeah, the engine would only need to maintain constant RPM. The CVT wheels would translate that into useful motion. If the same engine could generate enough surplus power to run its electronics and servos you'd have a pretty long range robot.
Given the motor spins continuously I wonder if you could use that as a gyroscopic stabilizing mechanism
Interesting, I doubt with the weight required for gyroscopic stabilization the power loss when engaging the drive wheels would have that much of an effect. Seems do'able.
I believe fly wheels must be untouched in use for stabilization. If a heavy weight were to be attached to the output it would give a reaction wheel effect that would be counter intuitive to the robots movement.
I was thinking that as well. But the cvt's would always be spinning even when the wheel was in neutral so changes in fly wheel would really only happen when engaging and dis engagement. Especially if it was inverted and the flywheel was under slung. But then there is the speed of the flywheel to consider. Would need to recalculate reduction to the wheels.
I've loved the demos lately, but this is beyond elegant. It is such a simple concept but I've never seen it employed.
The servo arms waving around makes it look like there's some little creature up there pulling in the reigns of its mechanical beast.
Now that sound awesome to make.
The robot arm idea is really interesting! It reminds me of old sawmills, where the equipment would clutch in and out of the main waterwheel which delivered power via a belt and pulley system going through the building. For the arm it means you’d only need one strong drive motor rather than a motor at each joint - that definitely shows promise!
Is this the most practical way of making wheels turn at different speeds? No.
But is it the most FUN way? Definitely!
And quite impressive too!
Yeah, it's quite pointless for actual usage. For robot locomotion, the wheel hub motors seen in hoverboards seem to be the pinnacle in actual design. Proto G recently put for of them together in an omniwheel configuration. But always interesting to see new ideas.
If civilization collapses,guys like you,tom stanton,clickspring,peterspiol,integza and other diy geniuses will reign supreme.
That makes for a great zero-point turning system. Lots of maneuverability - but I would be worried about slipping on those transmission spheres alot.
The final robot is super cool! and seeing the servo arms swinging back and forth to control the robot is very cool and a little mesmerizing.
And I know my CVT comment on the previous ball video probably didn't influence the creation of this bot. It would be a natural progression to do this one. But it's nice to think it might have. Well done.
Wow, I love the broad visual movement in the servo connected arms as it maneuvers. Makes it really nice to watch
Really really cool--there are few videos that make me exclaim out loud, but this one surprised me with how far it went. The volume and diversity of your output of ideas is inspiring
This setup would be great for an internal combustion motor based robot since that's usually constantly running.
I've got a bicycle with a CVT-it's pretty fun. In fact, that sphere-based CVT video you showed is by the company that designed the transmission on my bike.
The CVT gearbox is called “Enviolo”, and the bike is called the Priority Continuum Onyx, if you're curious.
yea, i've got one of these CVTs on my bycycle...'nuvinci harmony' now enviolo... fully automatic...awesome.
Very impressive!
Lots of friction, but very good!
I'm amazed at the consistent high quality of your videos
A neat real world application for this sort of transmission might be a gas powered robotic lawn mower. Could use the already steady running gasoline motor for the motive force, and only need very minimal electrical system for the servos. Super neat.
I'm sure the frictional losses in this thing are quite high. There is essentially 3 places that motor torque must pass through to the wheels. This is an amusing and clever build that is driven from a single motor.
For some reason I was researching this same cvt system earlier this week. What a coincidence you made one as well. Great job. I think it could have a use for a steam power or even gas powered robot. It would really shine if it was 6 wheeled, all direct driven by a single belt and the same 2 servos on a single motor. It could be a great drone vehicle with gas it could run for hours and miles in this configuration.
James its 12am in the usa go to sleep we understand you want to keep putting out the amazing content but seriously get some sleep D:
Luckily he released the vid at 7 am (GMT + 1) which I think is his timezone.
He’s from britain so right now its pretty early
I think it's a joke friends
I work swing in Oregon so it was kinda nice to come home and watch a new vid from James. Love the content 👌🏾
Sleep loss can be a major contribution to hair loss.
The moving levers gives robot steampunk quality.
This would probably be more important for motors who like specific RPMs, like ICEs.
Wow!!...Crazy concept. You are truly a genius. Your thought process and overall implementation is so inspiring. Keep up the good work.
This is so satisfying to watch it work idk why but I love the arms moving the balls
Looks like a modified version of the drive system used by "zero turn" riding mowers? The gas engine turns a flywheel at a constant speed and variable reduction transmissions control each of the two drive wheels, allowing forward and reverse at a range of speeds.
sounds like that also has the advantage of being able to keep the engine at the ideal rev count for power/efficiency
In reality zero turn mowers use two independent hydrostatic drive mechanisms, hydraulic motors powered off of a common pump, the drive levers are connected to valves. Most ordinary lawn mowers with steering wheels have a single hydrostatic drive these days, much easier to use than a conventional transmission when you want to have variable speed and don't want to be messing with the throttle and therefore changing your blade speed.
@@AlRoderick Many zero turns have a pair of independent sealed hydrostatic drive units that are belt driven. A single belt drives both input shafts directly from the motor, and control arms attached to the drive units control their ratios much like the design in the video. The actual reduction mechanism is very different, involving movement of swashplates that change the displacement ratios rather than changing the flow rate with valves.
Since they don't have the restriction of valves they are more efficient, and much like a torque converter tend to work great until they don't. I've rebuilt them before for customers and currently own a mower with this system, but my next one will probably be the pump/valve/orbital motor style just because it removes the reliance on proprietary parts (Deere, of course)
Dixon Lawn Mowers used this exact system for their zero turn lawn mowers decades ago. They essentially invented the zero turn lawn mower and they used this system for years before switching over to hydraulic zero turn which is the current standard.
This is brilliant!!!! I'm not sure in how far this is patent-able but as robots go this one will go far. The limited amount of moving parts. The load-bearing moving parts.... Man this has a future.
I kid you not. As an example I see this riding on mars but also as a more sturdy Roombah. Just imagine this clutch system adapting to different types of flooring by using the clutch. Not just the wheels but also the brushes.
It's like a regular two wheeled robot, but with extra steps! Super cool.
I really enjoy these proof-of-concept videos!
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The clutch rods points in the same side direction when it travels straight frustrates my need for symmetry so much, lol
Always coming up with something new and I am here for it! Really interesting system, visually very cool and mechanically fascinating.
I often wonder if, when James comes home after a day out, several of his robots greet him at the door and say "Home again home again, jiggity jig! Gooood evening, J.B!"
Awesome mechanism! I can't wait for an arm driven by this
i have never seen any thing like this and it is awesome
Deeply neat. Thanks for exploring these new wheel and transmission designs.
Wow, you make it look so easy. You're a very busy person, and I really appreciate everything you share here.
The idea is great, the simplicity of it makes it even better. In case of small, light contraptions, it can make sense to develop a prototype and testing it. Although my thoughts can't leave the issue about friction. Imagine a moderately heavy machine using this idea, or a heavier one. I'm not convinced it would be an easy task to solve the possibilities of slipping or grinding. If you can come up with a trusty solution for not "amending" the gear oil with metal shavings or powdered metal, you can make a nice future for yourself. It would be a cool thing to see it working in a long-term use.
The back little wheel just standing there... *M E N A C I N G L Y*
That is such a genius design, WOW!!!!
10:07 I‘m having a flashback to Ross screaming „PIVOT!!!“
biggest problem is the operation with high torque. We had this problem in a project for a client, but ended up making a new type of gears which worked well. It is still in the process and will be patented. But for anything with a limited torque, this is grrrreat
I'd imagine that in real world application, debris on the wheel would be pushed between the friction points and would cause quick wear and tear on the half balls driving the wheel.
This design probably best to be enclosed in a dust free environment, like perhaps a shoulder for a robot.
@@TheNightstalkerShow yes. But even then you will have the problem, just less. Imagine when a lot of torque applies.
@@el-domo Agreed. It becomes a choice in materials used at that point. Metal on rubber, or nylon on some other material. Whichever part being easier and cheaper to replace should wear first. It's a neat design with niche uses... I wouldn't expect it to be used for moving parts that operate 24/7.
@@TheNightstalkerShow They all wear out and can't take high torque anyway. If you find out, it's extremely expensive and limited to the applications anyway
@@el-domo Probably can design a half sphere bevel gear with no spiral these days to handle the torque and get same functionality as the friction only method... but you say you have a patent pending, so I doubt you'd confirm it :D
If your recent projects have looked like hacks I don't know what mine look like. I have really been enjoying the recent content.
If his are messy then mine might just summon Cthulhu for the sole purpose of him looking at me with whatever passes for a raised eyebrow
I am most impressed with the demo of this, well done. Also, excellent music used in the demo too.
If James Burton manages to build this concept into a self balanced robot, i will grant him the title god of the mechanical world and beyond!
This is a nice little piece of mechanical engineering. Really awesome how it works. Maybe use a set of clutches on a drive shaft like you suggested to keep the motor weight down and close to the center of mass and then use it just for a hand, like an improvement on your Ultron robot's hand.
can you imagine someone like Leonardo DeVinci with a 3D printer?. That's the ingenuity I see here on this channel. Awesome.
Had a hire car with CVT at one point, loved it. Zero to Sixty at three thousand RPM...
Channels like yours are the ones I love subscribing to. ✌️👏😎
With those two levers on the top, it looks like a strange version of a steam locomotive. Really cool! :)
Fun stuff as always! You might want to lay out a course or something for your demonstrations to prove that it's really controllable. Seeing it flail around your kitchen doesn't really show that it works, aside from the fact that it doesn't hit the cabinets, but I think it would be a powerful visual to have a track or line or something to really demonstrate controlled motion. Doesn't even have to be fancy, just tape on the floor of a big room or something. Love your work!
You could 3d print some notches that stop the joysticks at different positions so it's easier to drive in a straight line and also easier to choose the turn speed.
I am extremely impressed you are an extremely smart man i never would have thought of that, and that's why I love your videos
Thank you
Very cool idea! Looks like some folks beat me to it, but this seems like the perfect setup to use a flywheel to drive the system instead of a motor. If you make a 1 or 2-wheel robot (1-wheel would be awesome!) the flywheel could potentially double as a gyroscope to help you stay upright.
That's such an awesome design, can't wait to see it evolve even further.
BTW, maybe using small cycloidal drives instead of the servos and arms to change the tilt of the hemispheres
I think it could give a more compact and sturdy fit, if placed by the side of the hemisphere's holder, though the current arms design look interesting, looks like there's someone inside manually driving it :D
It works great! You can also use a flywheel instead of the electric motor and still have excellent control
This worked way better than I expected! Now I wonder: if you put a big motor on one end with a belt running off it and around a bunch of rollers, could you put these ball drives against the belt (such that it's pinched between the ball and roller)? That could allow for driving a whole lot of individual wheels or whatnot off a single motor with relative ease. Hmm. Could be interesting!
Dude you’re an absolute genius
someone please give James a proper TV show so he doesn't have to plug these companies lol. The guy should be on TV - he's so awesome
It looks pretty cool when those arms move!
This is so cool! I imagine this is how steam powered car engines control their speed.
It's not, but you could make one that uses it.
I wanna see that in the snow and the dirt. NIce Design ♥
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Very cool. Thank you for sharing this.
I think a small improvement would be to make the ball portions a rigid material with surface texture for grip (not flexible), then have replaceable rubber bands on the drive and output disks.
*I think that will wear more evenly
*be easier to replace without having the original model (later maintenance/rebuild concern)
*be less prone for inconsistencies in movement between the 2 sides
Nice Toroidal Cycloidal Transmission Drive.
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Your dishwasher looks fine
Very cool and great idea, make it as line follower robot. :D
this is genius and would make a cute robot
this is a really really cool concept :D
great video as always :D
So it WAS a CVT. Cool 🙂
Interesting idea, using a separate ball for each wheel, so each can run at a different speed. Might just work really great with the spherical Omni-wheels, too 😉
This absolutely needs a Mr. Bean doll on a recliner mounted on top "actuating" those levers - LOL!
As always brilliant I love your videos I get sometimes headaches how you do it. :-)
Wow, great stuff. This could be applied to a stirling engine to make a drivetrain, as the output of a stirling engine is quite constant...
Man, I don’t know where this is going, but every component is becoming a head scratcher
Wow, that hair loss ad just took me back to the 90’s
That is really something. The internet is full of smart people. Well, and dumb ones, too, but this guy is a smart one.
Just for reference, most tanks don't use two control sticks. It's too difficult to use to ensure same position on each. Modern tanks use a wheel and throttle and brake pedal.
As you discovered.
This guy is a genius.... How can you put out so much great content in so little time.. Atleast it makes me fell kinda useless 😂😂
James you are an absolute genius
You could just put rubber or some other pliable material at the hole of the sphere's axis to brake the wheel as soon as it disengages.
Now just add another pivot to the bottom of your pivot piece and you can move Diagon Alley.
Amazing Video 👍 love your work 😁🙌
Love the music for the drive test :)
1:45 pufferfish having fun
That's an interesting robot, congratulations 👍
Again, excellent proof of concept development and display .
I've seen this done with weird ball shaped/wheel configurations ontop of the ball. So simpler wheels (plain ball), with normal wheels driving them on top (one for each direction IIRC).
Would be interesting to have the angle based on the force the output wheel needs to turn - so you could build a continuous "gear shifter" for bikes that always needs the same input force.
Actual bikes would never use a drive like this because the friction is way too high and it will slip under high load - efficiency is the #1 consideration for road bikes and high torque transfer for off-road bikes.
@@PKMartin but that's not fun.
When I was a teen I drew some steampunk scenes, and I would design the machines before drawing them in, I wanted things to look like they actually work. I made spherical gears that would transfer rotation through the joints of a robot modeled on a mountain lion. I didn't think about at the time about the gear ratio changing when it bends and contacts it's limbs, lol.
How hard would it be to make a gearing setup that could compensate for that and drive the shafts faster or slower accordingly to effectively use two sphere gears to transfer rotation through a limb's joint? I fear it would be really inefficient.
It would be neat to couple this drive system with a vertical axis wind turbine. If the electronics were low power enough you could design a robot that could wander around a patio outside waiting for a wind indefinitely.