What an inspiration! We must never forget in these dark times that the world still has leaders like this to guide us out of these horrors. Free Palestine 🇵🇸 Free all oppressed people 🌍❣️
This is an excellent conversation. Dr Pandor has a unique experience and the right moral compass to guide future generations on how to lead struggles against injustices everywhere. Tayab Ali is an excellent interlocutor. He does great work in his own capacity. Two great people imparting great wisdom. Thank you!
Our amazing leaders have moral rectitude and humility. So proud to be South African ... a privelege we own from our history and ethics. And incredible South Africans like Mme Thandi❤
Good luck Dr. Pander. 🍀 South Africa 🇿🇦 You and your organization are doing amazing work for all of us People of the World 🌎 FREEDOM 🕊️and ⚖️ JUSTICE for PALESTINE 🇵🇸
Thank you for this. Palestine has the right to be free from colonial occupation and oppression. They have the right to defend themselves and free themselves!
Words are not enough to convey my Love, Respect and Gratitude for Dr Nalide Pandor a True Legend who will never know the Extent, or the Ripple effects of her Work, her Passion and Sacrifice on Millions around the world... Especially on the Millions of Palestinians for Generations to come 💛
It's Deeply Disturbing & Beyond Belief that in the 21st Century 194 Nations, The UN, the World Courts & institutions are Inept to STOP a Genocide. One tiny pinprick on the Map of the World, Yet No-One can Stop its Evil. The Excuse ... isreal has the backing of the US, is a Weak Excuse bcs the US is also Held Hostage by zionism. If Nations stand together, if ALL Nations Apply SANCTIONS NOW, EXPEL ALL isreali Diplomats and Trade missions NOW, close their Air space to isreal Now and Stand Up to the US, they will also RESCUE it from the clutches of isreal's Evil. Justice MUST prevail.
Fascinating, Real Warriors.Staunch opponent of Injustice in all its Heinous shapes or forms.Great Ethics.Just Humane and Sincere.Very rare leader who struggles to rid the world of its Evils,Evils perpetrated by such as the Zionists at the present time,but once the repugnant and obscene Apartheid system in South Africa. This is a Model to the planet Earth to follow,not people like Netanyahu,Biden,Trump,Starmer etc etc. The best to you Dr Pandor because you feel the pains of others and you fight for their liberation from the Zionistic Oppression of the Israel Regime.
1:06:44 her shock at Blair’s support for Iraq war, double standards and the hypocrisy of the west has been the same for so many and “correcting” our countries is a monumental task. In many ways, it all of us suffering the absence of justice and the consequences of humanities endless wars which (because of their inevitability) may have to be our painful, irrefutable teacher. Such a shame! And how ironic that descendants of a holocaust are doing far worse in their quest for security. The so called ‘security dilemma’ coupled with mankind’s imagined separation and superiority to Nature are still so prevalent and discounted as the main source for our intractable problems.
It’s people like Dr Pandor who will be remembered with pride by her coming generations whereas the progeny of likes of Biden and Natenyahu and the Western Leaders will always be tarnished with shame
Free free Palestine, Gaza Lebanon from Israel INHUMANE ATROCITIES.The Genocide and Ethnic cleansing has to end NOW 🤲🤲🤲🤲 Thanks Lady Pandor.You are so right.Wonderfulvand enlightening conversation presentation 🤗🤲🤲🤲🤲
And indeed the Drafting began all over the country in all the Provinces in all the Townships the voice of the people were recorded on paper to compile a "Charter"...
Good, interesting talk. Where she emphasises that you have to be very careful to protect civilians during any armed struggle, she seems to be implying the resistance shouldn’t have taken the action they did. That’s true about protecting civilians as much as you can, obviously. But they were trapped in that tiny, densely-populated, sealed-in space, up against one of the mightiest militaries in the world (with unlimited weapons provided by the world’s biggest superpower) - as about as asymmetric as it gets. Their options were limited. And they were being slowly more and more stifled and marginalised over time, with more and more land stolen from their people. I can see they felt they needed to do something big, to smash the paradigm of the oppression and marginalisation. Peaceful protests and firing the odd rocket, most of which were shot down, weren’t achieving anything. It could be that they miscalculated the sheer level of Isr*eli violence, destructiveness and barbarism to come, even though they knew the response would be huge and disproportionate (as it always is with Isr*el). But the horrific extent of the cruelty, malice, collective punishment and violence, which has been off the scale (some say greater than ever known in human history) - even by Isr*el's usual savage standards - may have been underestimated. But it's Isr*ael (and its western backers) that is entirely responsible for its response, and the fact that they're happy to break every international law there is, without any accountability. Their endless lawlessness and targeting of civilians makes them terr*rists. It’s a conundrum to know what would work when faced with such military might, state of siege and the opposition’s complete dehumanisation and disregard for them as people, and the fact that it’s clear they’ve always wanted the Palestinian people to be erased from the land. See the film No Other Land (among a number of others) if there’s any doubt about that.
Asange, a victim of truth telling; dark times ahead when those who dare resist evil are persecuted. Yet the heart,mind and souls that seek shelter under Almighty God will have God protection for all eternity.
01:15:30 Her Honour, Joan Donoghue, conflated the two aspects of the case: 1) Had South Africa exhausted all non-judicial means to diplomatically resolve the case before going to trial. 2) Was the case against Israel plausible, prima facie, and the trial for genocide should proceed. In the actual case she seemed to deliver a verdict supporting 2), but in the Hardtalk interview, she maintained that the "plausible" finding only applied to 1). Not plausible, if you ask me, something got to her, maybe old age.
Further to my comments below even the expressions “global north and global south” need to be eradicated from the public mind. Call countries and people by their true name. Instead of engraving further the notions of “them” and “us” in the public mind. Even the judges of all courts including the ICJ and the ICC are not immune from the psychological influence of words and style of language used in these TH-cam and other discussions.
Struggle, must go on until world is free,only i don't agree with her on people marching and speaking to enlighten others of different perspectives., persuasion and behaviour, religious beliefs. Apriciate people before we achieved all thus.
@@cliffardgerber3830 Some people hold that opinion regarding Ian Smith's Southern Rhodesia. The white colonists built schools; they were paying to educate young Black people as best they could, the vast majority of the Black population was tribal and living in grass huts. It also comes up by at least one author in the law journals that Smith was tricked into declaring UDI because the UK wanted to throw the colony to the communists. I had seen a video suggesting that white missionaries recruited Black people and sent them south to cause trouble for the Whites. History shows that the White Dutch Boers pioneered within a vast area not occupied by Blacks. Anyway, I'm wondering who invaded who and how the long-term "apartheid" scenario resulted.
@crazyforcanada holy hell. The Boers trekked from Cape Town which had an indigenous Khoi/San population towards the interior of the country where they fought with the Bantu tribes that they came across. They write about it in the very many journals and historical texts from that time. Also there are the archeological finds of Mapungubwe and Great Zimbabwe which are settlements that have stone walls, and date back to between 900 AD and 1200AD. The Dutch settlers arrived in the Cape in the 1652.
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What an inspiration! We must never forget in these dark times that the world still has leaders like this to guide us out of these horrors. Free Palestine 🇵🇸 Free all oppressed people 🌍❣️
This is an excellent conversation. Dr Pandor has a unique experience and the right moral compass to guide future generations on how to lead struggles against injustices everywhere. Tayab Ali is an excellent interlocutor. He does great work in his own capacity. Two great people imparting great wisdom. Thank you!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 what a joke
^^^ M ad 😂😂😂😂
Brave and Brilliant Dr. Pander. 👏. Thank you
We are proud of Madam Pandor❤❤❤
We love u Ma Naledi. Proud to be South African 🇿🇦
I enjoyed every single seconds of this interview!! Share this video people need to listen to this great woman. Thank you Dr.
Our amazing leaders have moral rectitude and humility. So proud to be South African ... a privelege we own from our history and ethics. And incredible South Africans like Mme Thandi❤
Good luck Dr. Pander. 🍀 South Africa 🇿🇦
You and your organization are doing amazing work for all of us People of the World 🌎
FREEDOM 🕊️and ⚖️ JUSTICE for PALESTINE 🇵🇸
Where is palestine on a map. Never heard of such a country
@@cliffardgerber3830Say Free Pal estine 😎❤️❤️🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸 Cheers from Amsterdam😊
Absolutely great to see and hear!! Great work which will set a great benchmark! 🌍
Thanks for helping me find this!
Thank you for this. Palestine has the right to be free from colonial occupation and oppression. They have the right to defend themselves and free themselves!
Palestine was never a country. No king, no president, no currency, no NOTHING. Get it??? Tw@.
Not going too well with the free themselves part..😂😂
islam = colonialist oppressors since 7th century AD.
Words are not enough to convey my Love, Respect and Gratitude for Dr Nalide Pandor a True Legend who will never know the Extent, or the Ripple effects of her Work, her Passion and Sacrifice on Millions around the world... Especially on the Millions of Palestinians for Generations to come 💛
It's Deeply Disturbing & Beyond Belief that in the 21st Century 194 Nations, The UN, the World Courts & institutions are Inept to STOP a Genocide. One tiny pinprick on the Map of the World, Yet No-One can Stop its Evil. The Excuse ... isreal has the backing of the US, is a Weak Excuse bcs the US is also Held Hostage by zionism. If Nations stand together, if ALL Nations Apply SANCTIONS NOW, EXPEL ALL isreali Diplomats and Trade missions NOW, close their Air space to isreal Now and Stand Up to the US, they will also RESCUE it from the clutches of isreal's Evil.
Justice MUST prevail.
Fascinating, Real Warriors.Staunch opponent of Injustice in all its Heinous shapes or forms.Great Ethics.Just Humane and Sincere.Very rare leader who struggles to rid the world of its Evils,Evils perpetrated by such as the Zionists at the present time,but once the repugnant and obscene Apartheid system in South Africa.
This is a Model to the planet Earth to follow,not people like Netanyahu,Biden,Trump,Starmer etc etc.
The best to you Dr Pandor because you feel the pains of others and you fight for their liberation from the Zionistic Oppression of the Israel Regime.
1:06:44 her shock at Blair’s support for Iraq war, double standards and the hypocrisy of the west has been the same for so many and “correcting” our countries is a monumental task. In many ways, it all of us suffering the absence of justice and the consequences of humanities endless wars which (because of their inevitability) may have to be our painful, irrefutable teacher. Such a shame! And how ironic that descendants of a holocaust are doing far worse in their quest for security. The so called ‘security dilemma’ coupled with mankind’s imagined separation and superiority to Nature are still so prevalent and discounted as the main source for our intractable problems.
It’s people like Dr Pandor who will be remembered with pride by her coming generations whereas the progeny of likes of Biden and Natenyahu and the Western Leaders will always be tarnished with shame
Free free Palestine, Gaza Lebanon from Israel INHUMANE ATROCITIES.The Genocide and Ethnic cleansing has to end NOW 🤲🤲🤲🤲
Thanks Lady Pandor.You are so right.Wonderfulvand enlightening conversation presentation 🤗🤲🤲🤲🤲
Why dont you go help and fight?
Dr Naledi! Good to see you.
Naledi shows the world...
We loves u dearly auntie naledi and we fully supports u in each and every way❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Dr Pandor🎉🎉🎉
this is awesome
Thanks ❤
I really wanted this lovely lady to be our president. But I hope she enjoys her retirement. Free Palestine
And indeed the Drafting began all over the country in all the Provinces in all the Townships the voice of the people were recorded on paper to compile a "Charter"...
Rise now
Pandor Magnifica siempre
Good, interesting talk. Where she emphasises that you have to be very careful to protect civilians during any armed struggle, she seems to be implying the resistance shouldn’t have taken the action they did. That’s true about protecting civilians as much as you can, obviously. But they were trapped in that tiny, densely-populated, sealed-in space, up against one of the mightiest militaries in the world (with unlimited weapons provided by the world’s biggest superpower) - as about as asymmetric as it gets. Their options were limited. And they were being slowly more and more stifled and marginalised over time, with more and more land stolen from their people. I can see they felt they needed to do something big, to smash the paradigm of the oppression and marginalisation. Peaceful protests and firing the odd rocket, most of which were shot down, weren’t achieving anything.
It could be that they miscalculated the sheer level of Isr*eli violence, destructiveness and barbarism to come, even though they knew the response would be huge and disproportionate (as it always is with Isr*el). But the horrific extent of the cruelty, malice, collective punishment and violence, which has been off the scale (some say greater than ever known in human history) - even by Isr*el's usual savage standards - may have been underestimated. But it's Isr*ael (and its western backers) that is entirely responsible for its response, and the fact that they're happy to break every international law there is, without any accountability. Their endless lawlessness and targeting of civilians makes them terr*rists.
It’s a conundrum to know what would work when faced with such military might, state of siege and the opposition’s complete dehumanisation and disregard for them as people, and the fact that it’s clear they’ve always wanted the Palestinian people to be erased from the land. See the film No Other Land (among a number of others) if there’s any doubt about that.
Asange, a victim of truth telling; dark times ahead when those who dare resist evil are persecuted. Yet the heart,mind and souls that seek shelter under Almighty God will have God protection for all eternity.
26:00 Apartheid South Africa was unable to play the Holocaust card ("Shoaguilt") which allows Israel to commit any atrocity, including genocide.
all respect to you and to south Africa 🌹
P A T H E T I C L O S E R S! 😂😂😂😂😂
Sar...pleese..😂😂😂😂😂
Brilliant
01:15:30 Her Honour, Joan Donoghue, conflated the two aspects of the case:
1) Had South Africa exhausted all non-judicial means to diplomatically resolve the case before going to trial.
2) Was the case against Israel plausible, prima facie, and the trial for genocide should proceed.
In the actual case
she seemed to deliver a verdict supporting 2), but in the Hardtalk interview, she maintained that the "plausible" finding only applied to 1).
Not plausible, if you ask me, something got to her, maybe old age.
Further to my comments below even the expressions “global north and global south” need to be eradicated from the public mind. Call countries and people by their true name. Instead of engraving further the notions of “them” and “us” in the public mind. Even the judges of all courts including the ICJ and the ICC are not immune from the psychological influence of words and style of language used in these TH-cam and other discussions.
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Struggle, must go on until world is free,only i don't agree with her on people marching and speaking to enlighten others of different perspectives., persuasion and behaviour, religious beliefs. Apriciate people before we achieved all thus.
Calling Israelis colonizers is like calling native Americans colonizers 😂
Bible based fairy tales
How did Blacks end up in White South Africa?
They are worse off now under her party rule 😂😂😂😂
@@cliffardgerber3830 Some people hold that opinion regarding Ian Smith's Southern Rhodesia. The white colonists built schools; they were paying to educate young Black people as best they could, the vast majority of the Black population was tribal and living in grass huts. It also comes up by at least one author in the law journals that Smith was tricked into declaring UDI because the UK wanted to throw the colony to the communists. I had seen a video suggesting that white missionaries recruited Black people and sent them south to cause trouble for the Whites. History shows that the White Dutch Boers pioneered within a vast area not occupied by Blacks. Anyway, I'm wondering who invaded who and how the long-term "apartheid" scenario resulted.
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@crazyforcanada holy hell. The Boers trekked from Cape Town which had an indigenous Khoi/San population towards the interior of the country where they fought with the Bantu tribes that they came across. They write about it in the very many journals and historical texts from that time.
Also there are the archeological finds of Mapungubwe and Great Zimbabwe which are settlements that have stone walls, and date back to between 900 AD and 1200AD. The Dutch settlers arrived in the Cape in the 1652.
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