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focus on Sony - they bought your soul. Spending time on the bloody name says it all. You start out exactly as you intend to finish, slagging off a really good product from Nikon. All these manufacturers produce great cameras, but of course they don't suit everybody. So just stop the pretence.
@@ch0sin194 Get some of those curly hairs out your mouth and stop acting like that 🤣 photographers are going to do their research on cameras and this fuzzy Fboi comes up heavily in searches, everyone can have an opinion and share it. I'm guessing you've watched and commented on videos you don't like 😅 we all have so Stfu
Terribly silly review. Nikon irons out the Z models and people are STILL crying? Dual card slots, faster dual processing and grip and a great pair of cameras are now even better. AF is already tested and better.
We had all types of hype on the two slots ---- you got it. Two processors --- you got it. 3.5 times more buffer --- you got it. 14 frames per second --- you got it. 50% better focus in low light ---- you got it. Less black-out between shots --- you got it. 4k @ 60 ---you got it. Reversible focus ring --- you got it. Functioning grip -- you got it. Working snap-bridge --- you got it. The best colors in the camera industry --- you got it. Also a new more powerful, long lasting battery --- you got it. Largest mount in the comparable cameras market --- you got it. Better auto focus --- you got it. Sounds like a no-brainer to me --- YOU GET IT!
@@TheFalkingFive Depends on what you're looking for really. For video definitely not as it's crippled with 8-bit internal recording. For photography it's personal preference I'd say.
Yeah, he wanted two card slots, a vertical grip and better AF. This update is basically the Fro-pack for the Z6/Z7. Who cares how many processors it’s got inside? Or what it’s called? I thought he was amusing to start with, but this anti-Nikon thing is just stupid. So they didn’t give him a pre-production model to test - is he surprised? I’ve kinda stopped watching this crap, never bothered with Northrup, and stopped looking at please-support-my-growing-family’s site a decade ago.
Gonna get the Z7ii - It's a little underwhelming, but I feel it's time to support Nikon a little to get through these rough times. I don't wanna see Nikon fall. Their sooc quality is too good.
I think they got alot of money from The first z6 and z7 look at this new version. They give dual chips and card slots everything better than first version but start with lower price than first version around 300$ what that means? ....... Lol 🤣🤣 🤣
@@omlet.layer8783 I have a first generation z6. It works perfectly fine and I still get the shots I need. I bet you have never even touched a Z6 before? Brained washed by all the TH-cam influencers.
I love Nikon, yes biased AF... I think their images are beautiful, the ergonomics and controls are fantastic and their lense technology incredible. Do they have room for improvement absolutely but this is a company that makes a great product. Your constant negative reviews are damaging and lack a full understanding of the real capabilities of the product. Example you complaining about them putting two processors, so what, why the hell not?! Are you a goddam expert in chip technology?
Same here. I just like to use Nikons, ever since Nikkormats. And like driving your classic car, due to passion and nostalgia, I just like to take out one of these screw AF D-lenses for a day on the road. There.
heyyy dude.. dual processor of 2 years ago tech just mean doing faster ,NOT better, for example af !! in this point of view i am agree with jared..it is kinda less working in side of nikon ! like your iphone 10 with dual old tech processor get released in 2021 !! you would say :hey it is great then ?!
Anyone else notice this channel is starting to sound like the discontinued cable show call "MANswers"? It may be time to discontinue viewing this too....a bit heavy on the whining for me these days.
Nikon Z6 SHINES! I'm a pro shooter, after multi year intensive use of Sony A7Ri, A7S, A7Rii, A7iii.... all too fragile, and the Nikon sensor and colour ? superb !
I'm looking at finally getting a new camera for wildlife photography/nature photography and have been considering the A7rii. I went to Nikon's site to see about the Z7 ii and it is really expensive compared to the Arii with similar megapixel count. But the images and colors look really beautiful from what I can tell. I'll probably go with the Arii or riii because I can't afford to spend 3000 on a body.
Rubbish video. Even a non-photographer can read spec sheet & talk these novice stuff. A photographer like you should know that there is nothing except pro sports that these cameras can’t achieve. It no longer lacks any critical feature for any genre of photography unless you want to shoot Olympics with them. We don’t need photographer to read specs for us. These cameras are improved in subtle ways that make them much more capable than meets the eye. To name only few: 900 sec long exposure, firmware update through snapbridge, Timelapse providing raw images as well, USB-C power delivery even while streaming through web utility software, battery grip with controls, hot swappable battery grip, additional USB-C on grip so that one can be used for power & other for tethering/software connect, more buffer, dual card slot, faster frame rate, eye AF in video, Eye AF in wide mode, dual processor, 4K 60, multiple exposure with previous shot image in card, etc. etc. TH-camrs start talking about camera in few minutes of launch without carefully studying details.
So true, they just look at the specs, no new sensor? bad, no change in body? bad, no 4k120? bad, no 8K, bad? After all its no longer about what a camera can do well, its all about matching the specs of the competitor, nothing about how they perform better than competition with the specs that they have
Whatever Nikon does haters will hate , JARED should admit he shouldn’t have jumped ship and quit trying to find weaknesses in Nikon’s new system. Anyone with two brain cells can recognize that the widest flange in the market together with the shortest distance of the sensor produce lenses that the competition can only dream of!!
@@endtimeimages3284 Nikon's dSLRs have 99% reliable autofocus and best image quality, but everyone bitches about lack of video functions. There is no winning, the whole blogging review industry seems to be against Nikon, likely because Nikon not paying them for favorable reviews
Seems Nikon doesn't want to pay you guys to promote the cameras so you choose to bash them every chance you get. Now go to make a sniff test or something.
You do know that at heart, Jared is now a Sony person. He made a whole video on how he sold his entire Nikon kit about ~2-3 years ago... I get the sense that while some argue that what the Z II is now should have been the Z on day one, people (both Canon and Sony people) are on the defense because Canon's 8k over promised, and under performed, and Sony delivered some, well, unexciting updates this year.... an A7C that's the same size as an a6000, and the A7S III.
To me that look like 2 fantastic cameras with no shortcomings. Since they "just" fixed the things which bothered people, they did not offend their Z6 and Z7 customers. The 2 processors may also be much more effective - not only because of double the processing power, but also because of better cooling (large surface).
To me they look like fine offerings for 2018.. definitely not a reason to buy into a system in 2020. Nikon has been far behind.. they really need a homerun right about now, not a base hit.
It is getting boring with you, Jared. You've had so much time to develop, but I don't see any progress in you. So from now on I will be looking at a different TH-camr.... See Ya!
This is fantastic news for us budget conscious individuals because. New z6 ii and z7 ii means current z6 and z7 should see an awesome price drop and sale prices at the end of the year. If you've been waiting for a z6 or z7 I think Christmas sale this year will be the time to buy!
@@LlamaFluff Do you think the FTZ adapter will do the job? Because I have a Nikkor 24-85mm but I read online that adapting a lens significatly slows down the AF performance. So would you rather buy the kit lens as well or do you think the adapter is enough?
@SwitchRich in any other circumstancd id say your right but being these were theyre first 2 mirrorless cameras i feel they're going to keep them around and updating them for a while.
@@FM-fh3zt I own an FTZ. Tested it with my 24 70 f2.8, 105 micro. And 50 1.4. Its OK for photo, but too noisy for video. My z 24 70 f4s outperforms them in every af situation.
Jared get over it , everything people wanted they got , Nikon used same bodies to save money , and for the dual expeed processor Same thing price , i think its a good job Nikon has done . As for autofocus the current z series has really good focus now yes its not as fast as Sony and Canon but Nikon autofocus was always behind as long as i been shooting Nikon 38 yrs and it was suffice enough
@Duke_Of_Hammertime TV My theory is that Jared highlights everything in order to get more contrast. In that case, it would make more sense to just use yellow paper.
“Im selling all my nikon gear because i need 2 card slots for professional shoots, and sony is faster af! Its a shame too because nikon has the best glass and quality photos...” Nikon: my bad jared, heres a better version with 2 card slots and more reliable af, with our state of the art glass. “Thats it????”
Nikon is much much better than expensive and overheating cameras 👍Nikon did a good job to produce a mirror less camera during this pandemic with less work force and in this recession time for professional photographers👍
Great job Nikon! This is exactly what we've been waiting for. Excellent ergonomics and handling, best in the business colour science, a great EVF, fantastic lenses, and for the series II: improved autofocus , two card slots, and a proper grip. The absurd claim that the Z 1.8 primes aren't 'professional' is fortunately seen for what it is (ridiculous) by most. The Z 1.8 primes are sharper and better than the F 1.4 primes, including sharper edge to edge, and they are perfectly acceptable for professionals to use. The only real benefit that 1.2 primes will provide is a slightly shallower depth of field, but comes with the disadvantages of much higher weight and price. One thing people don't realise regarding 2 card slots: one XQD/CFe card is more reliable than two SD cards, due to the inbuilt error checking in XQD/CFe. They are like a mini SSD.
Of course the 1.8 s's are good, but 1.4 and 1.2 S will be even better.....they aren't even out yet. You can't compare them to 1.4's because they don't exist either.
@@froknowsphoto no doubt, the 1.2s will be amazing and I'm excited for them to be released. In my experience though, the Z1.8s are superior to the f-mount 1.4s.
Look at the reviews on the Nikon S lenses. They are phenomenal. I have most of the F 1.8 primes. They are a pleasure. I am very excited about what the next 2 or 3 years of Nikon lenses. I think we will ALL bein for a treat! Michael
Nikon has the best files, but also the best grip and ergonomics for large hands. I could not live with Sony because of poor ergonomics and inferior color to Nikon .In 2 to 3 years, Nikon will have amazing lenses? People do not understand how powerful the larger flange will be,! Michael N
Nikon hasn't proven the advantage of the large flange though. Until I see a 24-70 f/1.8 zoom, I'm not convinced that a large mount helps with making faster glass.
The larger flange means the angle the light has to travel to reach the sensor from the periphery is less acute and therefore less distortion. More of the light rays will reach the sensor without having to bend as much- less distortion. Michael
I can attest that the S glass is wonderful. Honestly it doesn't read well on a spec sheet but that 50 1.8 is BLISS it's heart achingly wonderful. They are already making the best quality glass, its just that it doesnt have the 'specs' on paper: Lighest, fastest, largest aperture, most expensive, cheapest, most expensive etc. Just are just brain fizzingly joyous to use, joy something that appears to be lacking in every 'influencers' tool kit for the last 12 months.
Sad to see the same BS on every Nikon Shuttered kicked to the curb TH-cam Channel who are no longer on the shortlist. Thanks for your review without having the camera which says a lot about your channel. REALLY THAT'S IT?!
I have to say the "really Nikon..Thats it" is complete clickbait! Nikon is stepping up here and addressing most if not all the issues with there first generation mirrorless. Both of these look really decent and if you are already invested in Nikon are very promising! I have been full time shooter for 30 years and happy with my D850 but will be interested to try out one these second generation mirrorless!
After owning both Sony and Canon mirrorless full frame cameras I still love the Z6/Z7 every time I use them. I went and looked at the Z5 last weekend and it really felt cheap and not worth it at all compared to the Z6. I will be keeping my eye out for cheap Z6s now that V2 has been released. A $1,000 Z6 sounds good to me.
I rented a Z6 a few weeks ago and was impressed. I am planning on getting the Z6ii, but if Z6 prices drop that low, I may get that instead. However, I do like the idea of being able to use the cheaper UHSD cards that I already have. I only have the one XQD card I had to buy to shoot the rented Z6.
@@flipfilms1759 once the Z6ii starts getting out and the Sony A7iv is announced you will find the Z6 at around $1000. Right now you can find them at $1300 used and $1400 grey market new. I'll give it the end of the year.
I picked up the Nikon Z5 to be my main camera for weddings and my Z6 as my back up. I truly can’t tell the difference and feel. I don’t know why you think it feels cheap, but maybe I didn’t notice. But I’m gonna tell you if you’re just using the Z5 for photography you will never tell the difference between it and the Z6.
There is 0 difference in feel with the Nikon Z5 to the Z6. It's the exact same ergonomics and materials on the outside. Every other person who has reviewed the Z5 says it feels the exact same lol.
@@RiposteThis Well I was at Best Buy and they were next to each other and if you knew nothing about cameras and there were no prices on them you would know right away the Z5 was a much cheaper camera. Even the minute you pick them up you can feel the cold on the Z6 that you barely feel on the Z5. Have you actually used, touched and seen both of them or are you just hypothesizing bases on what other people have said because if you haven't your comment is worthless.
You probably had this negative video prerecorded before the actual launch. Nikon already gave everything you asked for and u still bash them. Canon came out with one card slot and no IBS for their first generation. You can say the R6 should of been canons first mirrorless camera 2 years ago?? You haven't even used the camera and already putting out negative vibes. At least use it first 🤦♂️
@@youknowwho9247 MSRP price never lasts long. A7R4 msrp was $3500. A7iii msrp was same as Z6/Z6ii. Let’s see if Sony releases the A7iv at $1999, I think it’ll be about 20% more.
@@Taz86 I don’t get it, because it’s not even funny anymore. This addresses a lot of issues. If the eye AF is significantly improved, what is there to complain about?
You really think the eye af will improve? Nikon is behind in all things mirrorless and all they did to respond to the Canon R5/6 is very minor updates. It is like an Olympus E-M10 IV which was basically the same as a III which was basically the same as a II. Just because he has been hard on Nikon doesn't make him wrong. Even if it is upsetting.
Did you meanwhile get one of the cams to test? Many other TH-camrs have received some from Nikon (only for a few hours though). I‘d like to hear your hands-on opinion.
Right? This addressed most of the issues with the Z cameras and he’s still dumping on it. It’s weird because the whole thing depends on the autofocus. If it’s dramatically improved, what else are you even looking for in a camera?
@@DieHardEddieEdwards address the problem you had 2 yrs ago when other are moving is called being a sloth... Nikon is always a step back competition. If you are a pro and not just a fan you go for the best, not for the team you spend your emotions in.
@@GabrieleNunnari Most pros dont buy brand new bodies every other week or switch systems on a whim like TH-cam suggests. I still shoot the D850 because it’s an excellent camera and the Z bodies weren’t good enough. If the autofocus is up to par, I’ll upgrade. I need a camera with quality autofocus, two card slots and decent video. What else are you looking for these cameras to do?
@@n1ngnuo This. The autofocus was legitimately inferior. If it’s better, I dont get the negative tone of the video. You’ve got the grip, the slots and potentially superior autofocus. Maybe it’s not enough for Jared to switch back to Nikon, but if it’s good, it’s good.
@@darekm6859 It is certainly OK, if a consumer / hobbyist / family daddy camera has just one card slot. Everyone agrees that it would stink a little, if a camera in such a market segments was dumbed down because of having 1 slot. But two card slots is a must (a hard criteria) for most professional photography domains. Especially for non-repeatable events (such as weddings). A camera which Nikon wants to be considered by pros, but has only 1 card slot, deserves a thumb down, if not even a sh'tstorm. Such as the Z6 and Z7. But I remember faintly that one French Nikon manager said once, that the Z were not aimed at professionals but only at consumers. But then Nikon should have made this more clearly in their communications.
@@tubularificationed lol don't be blind.. watch other reviewers .. in dpreview test.. autofocus tracking of r5 in not that great.. in video Camera Conspiracies reviews it on hands and the autofocus fail more than the R.. even here Fro Retardo test, Sony A7r4 tracking missed more than the z7.. no flaws eh? lol
Have to disagree. I own a Z6 and I am pretty disappointed with this 2 year improvement. Nothing really new is getting introduced here. 2 card slots should have been there from the beginning as well as a grip and usbc charging. New processors are nice if it weren't the old ones. Video pretty much remains the same and will probably suffer from the same rolling shutter and pixel skipping. you even need to unlock stuff via firmware updates. ah and there is a dx crop on 40k 60, not even fullframe. Can't judge the autofocus yet, but if that's not a 180 degree turn for the better idk... Pretty much the only thing this update does is devalue my Z6.
Amazing how the top two camera reviewers are so grating in their own way. Many better and worthwhile opinions out there without the lame gags and try hard clickbait titles.
Jared, you're probably making too big a deal about the name -- being mark II. Nikon could just be changing their naming convention, where the next models could be mk III, mk IV and so on. If they'd called it the Z6s/Z7s, what would the next models be? Z8/Z9? Apparently there is already a Z9 in the works which will be more akin to the Sony Flagship, A9.
I have the z6, picked up the z50, and just got the z5 and I love them all. Think I will add the z7ii to my collection. The z5 is in my opinion the best out of the 3 for photography. It seems to focus quicker and find the eyes better then my z6. That Being said you can’t go wrong with with all three of them for photography. But for video the Z6
I think he was referring to more than just processing power. For example they're still stuck with 8-bit internal recording which is a possible limitation of the processor used. A new processor would have allowed them to go 10-bit like almost all of the other cameras that have been released recently.
I own two Z6 cameras, battery packs, 70-200 f2.8, 24-70 f2.8 & 85mm f1.8, I shoot weddings, yeah with one card slot, completely confident, absolutely no problems. I use eye detect and tracking options all the time don't really miss any frame which is out of focus. The files are great, colours, quality, etc. Loads of great systems out there, Canon, Sony, etc doing a brilliant job....and? I get great results and my clients are very happy. No need to upgrade to this new tweaked range of cameras, the Z6 still does a brilliant job for me and I am not worried about any price drop in resale as I am too busy taking photographs with my existing kit. I will be happy to wait another two years for the Z9
I had a Canon R but the cost of the lenses and their size sent me to the Nikon Z6. I love it. Added the z50 which was also a pleasant surprise. And you can use the same lenses, unlike Canon’s APS-C alternative which has few lenses anyway. I am hopeful I can now afford the Z7.
@@RobertoPavan I didn't say M range, did I numb nuts. You can use EF (full frame) on the EF-S mount, which is the APS-C, or cropped. The R range don't have a cropped sensor yet.
What more does it need? Just use it first, the improvements may on the surface look small but if it’s faster autofocus, better dynamic range, better grip and 2 cards it may just be what DSLR shooters need to jump over. Puts it pretty close to the R5/6 to me. Who needs 2 seconds of 8K?
@@froknowsphoto I don't see you constantly comparing Sony and Canon on their videos and keep talking about how they have not caught up with Nikon in image quality? When it comes to Nikon, you always want to have a reason to crap on them. You always say their AF needs to catch up. And now when they caught up, you have new things to crap on Nikon. Shame on you!
Apple makes the fastest mobile chips on the planet by a large margin. Nikon doesn't. Apple is worth literally over 500 times what Nikon is. Apple sells Nikon's entire net worth in just iPads every six weeks. So, yeah.
Nikon built its reputation in recent years on four things about its DSLRs 1. Best image quality (shared with Sony), best handling (shared with Canon) best build quality and best autofocus (shared with nobody!). The new Zs are intended to restore those qualities to its foray into the mirrorless market. If Nikon achieves that, job done and the future will be bright, particularly if the proposed pro-spec Z9 takes this progress another step further.
@@chanjeff4406 Mmmmm......I doubt it. I don’t have any attachment to any particular brand (unlike this and some other TH-cam commentators) and have used and owned Olympus, Pentax, Canon, Nikon and more recently, Panasonic. What I do know is that Nikon produced the pinnacle of DSLR cameras in the D850. I can see no reason why they won’t do the same with mirrorless now they are fully invested in it. If, and I know it’s unproven yet, Nikon have developed class-equalling (or leading) AF in the Z II s, then I think the whole package would be an amazing achievement for such a late entry into this market. Sony need to sort their poor handling and Canon some of their quality/technical issues or I see Nikon slowly regaining the premier position they once occupied.
@@davidbowman6740 mirrorless is a different story. Sony and Canon have invested much more time on mirrorless than Nikon. Surely Nikon will improve but the question is can Nikon leapfrog the others in the mirrorless game. As for the AF, we have yet to see if the Z II catch up with Sony A7S3 and Canon R5/R6 so it is too early to draw a conclusion. Btw Sony has improved a menu and used a new screen design on A7S3, but Nikon Z6ii/Z7ii get stuck on the original design. Disclaimer: I am a Nikon user.
@@chanjeff4406 it’s true that Nikon has been playing catch up but they do know how to make a photographer’s camera. Having handled most of the current mirrorless options, with a view to deciding which to invest in, the Zs just felt right in my hands. For my style of photography, which is wildlife, the AF is critical. Interestingly, Matthieu Gasquet, who is the most neutral and reliable tester of mirrorless cameras for birds in flight, found the Z6 to be the 2nd most capable for AF (and he’s tested them all) only marginally behind the Sony A9 II. Yet, to listen to the TH-camrs you wouldn’t think it. That’s the advantage of listening to someone who spends the time to properly set up a camera and has the skill to use it. So, with dual processors and updated algorithms, it seems reasonable to assume that the Z II s will be a bit special. Throw in the stunning quality of the new S lenses and I’m very tempted.
Please suggest me Which nikon mirrorless to buy for post processing files. Also for weddings photography and videography, fashion, portrait, portfolio 🙏
I don't like Jared that much, I think his opinions are to brash and even too harsh sometime. He is sometime (often) too focused on his own needs over what other photographers really want or need. I watch him because it his a quick way to get a lot of news and rumors without having to look for it myself. But he explicitly said in the video that he don't care about a flip screen...
@@MegaBriarpatch no. it's unbelievable, but similarly to their video bitrates nikon isn't publishing the official evf refresh... they did say it's "higher during burst mode than the previous models" -- whatever that means.
@@punkrachmaninoff , that might explain the shorter blackout time, if the EVF's refresh bumps up to 120hz in burst model. Whatever it takes to effectively reduce blackout time, I'l take it. : )
This fixation with "more, more, more!" is getting tiring, especially from TH-camrs who say from the other side of their mouth, "The gear matters but it's not the most important thing." Ok, I haven't used the R5/A9II AF, so you did say I lacked context, but after using autofocus cameras for a year or two or a lot more, I like that it is there but also work at a pace that other cameras manage. For the numbering, I think Nikon decided that either numbers in the series, with the "s" for intermediate updates, would work, or they needed to switch completely to II/III/... Otherwise, what would the next cameras be? Z7t and Z6t? Overall, I think reviewers are whining about this too much. Most people with Nikon bodies will either 1. Keep their Z6/Z7 2. Keep their DSLRs 3. Switch from their DSLRs to the Z6II/Z7II 4. Switch from the Z6/Z7 to Z6II/Z7II. The 2 card slots, vertical grip option, and two processors make all #3/4 easier to do.
So Nikon has two bodies which offer a far better user experience than any Sony and better images and is cheaper than thr equivalent Canons. Seems like a winner to me.
So unimpressed by the Z6 II particularly. It's the video camera of the bunch, and the only _actual_ improvement it gets to its output is some garbage crop factor 4k60 that isn't even in the firmware yet? Very glad I pulled the trigger on the original Z6 last year.
Will the software updates come to the z6 and z7 to allow crop 4k 60. I want to buy the z6, the only thing that really matters to me is the better video autofocus, and the usb-c power. If these things come to the original z6 I would be super happy. Do you know if the firmware will come to that?
Hi. In my expereince, Z6 has already very good video autofocus, especially on human face tracking. It is better than Fuji and Panasonic - don't worry about it.
Ok people. Just a personal thought. Well opinion I guess but apparently the opinion of many. I thought the idea of having a good camera and glass was to get the best images we can achieve. I am thinking when it comes to actual image quality it's hard to beat Nikon for there quality, color, dynamic range. I guess I was wrong about cameras and we are just suppose to see how many pics we can get in the shortest time. Well I am sticking to my thought process. I am using a D850 with mostly Zeiss glass which are all manual focus. Yes I might not get them all but what I do get I would put up against pretty much what's out there in this class of gear
As much as I love my Z6, I do agree that Nikon is still 2 years behind the pack. They just need to release the rest of the lenses soon! I was really hoping for a flippy screen on the Z6II. Other than that, it's a nice update. Do you remember when the D3 was announced and then the D3s and D3x was announced? How was the reaction back then?
Hope that the Z6 and Z7 mark II do well... Im a Canon Shooter, but we need competition between 3 brands to get the industry going.... We need that camera trinity of Sony, Canon and Nikon..
Think you're conflating the 'S' with different model number - it's like an apples/oranges thing. If the camera was called a z650 then a z650s would make more sense than a z750. I think 's' and 'II' is the same thing personally. Just wait til the z666 comes out - may be a world -ender
Where's all this energy when Sony releases it's new cameras? They all are pretty much the same body, same for Fuji X series. This is a common thing regardless of brand.
But the Sony are the leaders ; and the last time they have 4 slots , a new viewfinder with better magnification refresh time and resolution etc. this camera is build in hope it will match one year old Sony cameras
Olympus you have to plug camera in with a special cable! I am still going to just use my Z 50, love that, but what I am waiting for is the Z 200-600mm lens!
@@bencollins7684 Ho hum, as usual the Sony haters always end up bitching about Sony's ergonomics and menu system. Is that the best you can do? No camera's perfect but I'll take a sub-optimal menu system and ergonomics every day of the week if it means I get the innovation and features that Sony has offered since the first A7 series was released.
Canon user here, I sympathise with Nikon because we may be headers for few month, every body is forgetting the the last 8 years of bashing.( since 5dmkIIi).I personnaly think 2021 will be a canon/nikon year (z9/r1)!!!
These should totally be "S" models - I don't get the "II" decision. Least of my concerns these days. :) I think this is a generous list of improvements & additions to two already great cameras. That said, I'm super happy with my Z6, no urgency to upgrade. Maybe spring 2021, depending on promotions / price drops. I'll invest in some glass in the meantime - the 20 1.8 and the 85 1.8 🤓
I have a Nikon Zf and I'm looking to aquire a second backup body, that's affordable and takes my Z mount lenses. I’m leaning towards the Nikon Z5, but with the recent price drops the Z6ii is not much more. Nearly everyone I've spoken to who actually owns a Z5 or Z6ii, LOVES it. I do love my Zf, but I want something that will act as a more ergonomic and compact backup. I shoot portraits and headshots and an occasional relaxed family session. I don't need speed, and I don’t plan on doing video with this backup. I played with a Z5 in the store a bit and it felt great to use. In use, I couldn’t really tell much difference between the Z5 and Z6ii. Here is my question: Is there any reason I would want a Z6II over a Z5? Remember, speed is not important to me, and neither is high ISO. But now that the price of the Z5 and Z6II are close, which is a better choice? I also want to get another lens or two, so if I get a Z5 (vs. Z6II) I will have more leeway and budget to do so. Any Z6ii owners that also shoot Zf or Z5? Thanks in advance, I am loving coming back to Nikon! I’m liking my Zf a lot and I’m looking forward to adding another Nikon body to my kit!
Nikon did a great job at keeping the new mirrorless system up to date in record time and this upgrade was very necessary, I can't wait for the rumored z9
I think this is a good upgrade for anyone who has a Z6 or wants a second mirrorless body. Most shooters are going to get the Z6 II for $800 to $1k depending on how much they can sell their current Z6 for. If you're shooting people and all you want is to turn your backgrounds to unrecognizable blurs eye AF is an amazing feature but if you know how to compose a scene the last thing you want is to shoot below f5.6 maybe f4 or f3.5 but you should be able to shoot at f10, f16 etc.
For anyone complaining about not having a 'flippy screen' so you can see yourself while you vlog to your 45 TH-cam subscribers - go buy the qdslrdashboard app and a hot shoe bracket for your phone for
I mean, when you consider the fact that the Z6 and Z7 were very good cameras, just a little slow, lacked a usable vertical grip, and needed dual card slots it makes pretty good sense that this would be the follow up.
I guess we will see. The R5 is not lacking for issues. I think these are nice upgrades for Nikon people waiting for Nikon to land a good professional grade mirrorless offering. As an R5 owner I would say the primary issue that would be the deal killer here is a lack of internal 10 bit video recording.
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Z6 II better for and it’s in my budget too
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The Canadian "I shoot Raw'' shirt is the best! Even Jared is wearing it ;)
focus on Sony - they bought your soul. Spending time on the bloody name says it all. You start out exactly as you intend to finish, slagging off a really good product from Nikon. All these manufacturers produce great cameras, but of course they don't suit everybody. So just stop the pretence.
Exactly. That’s why I Unsubbed from him years ago back when he was a Canon fanboy.
@@WatchTashi but u still found ur self commenting on a page u unsubbed from🤔🤫
@@WatchTashi why are you still here?
@@ch0sin194 Get some of those curly hairs out your mouth and stop acting like that 🤣 photographers are going to do their research on cameras and this fuzzy Fboi comes up heavily in searches, everyone can have an opinion and share it. I'm guessing you've watched and commented on videos you don't like 😅 we all have so Stfu
What about the never-ending name Canon 5 d Mark iv?
Dude doesn’t have the camera and judging camera, gimme a break
absolutely - what a t"rd!!!
He´s Nikons trash talk are just too much. Still he is hanging around in every Nikon forum there is...
Why you piss off man? Switch to canon then, problem solve, duhhhhh.
@@yreyez hmmm perhaps you should spell check before posting
@@bebitonenita65 Hey kid... I just farted..
Terribly silly review. Nikon irons out the Z models and people are STILL crying? Dual card slots, faster dual processing and grip and a great pair of cameras are now even better. AF is already tested and better.
We had all types of hype on the two slots ---- you got it. Two processors --- you got it. 3.5 times more buffer --- you got it. 14 frames per second --- you got it. 50% better focus in low light ---- you got it. Less black-out between shots --- you got it. 4k @ 60 ---you got it. Reversible focus ring --- you got it. Functioning grip -- you got it. Working snap-bridge --- you got it. The best colors in the camera industry --- you got it. Also a new more powerful, long lasting battery --- you got it. Largest mount in the comparable cameras market --- you got it. Better auto focus --- you got it. Sounds like a no-brainer to me --- YOU GET IT!
is it comparable to canon r5 or r6?
@@TheFalkingFive Depends on what you're looking for really. For video definitely not as it's crippled with 8-bit internal recording. For photography it's personal preference I'd say.
@@TheFalkingFive its not ment to be look at the price difference thats why they are releasing a z9 and eventually a z8
@@TheFalkingFive Why does it have to be? Why can't it just be good on its own? Is a Mercedes comparable to a Corvette?
@@jasonjohnson2047 Favorite comment. I completely agree. Both amazing
You answered your own question “ will it be any better” “I don’t know I haven’t used it” end of video
Hahah, exatcly
Yeah, he wanted two card slots, a vertical grip and better AF. This update is basically the Fro-pack for the Z6/Z7.
Who cares how many processors it’s got inside? Or what it’s called?
I thought he was amusing to start with, but this anti-Nikon thing is just stupid. So they didn’t give him a pre-production model to test - is he surprised?
I’ve kinda stopped watching this crap, never bothered with Northrup, and stopped looking at please-support-my-growing-family’s site a decade ago.
@@chrishoward140 Yeah, it sounds like a quality camera that wedding and event shooters will want in their bags and at a decent price point.
Gonna get the Z7ii - It's a little underwhelming, but I feel it's time to support Nikon a little to get through these rough times. I don't wanna see Nikon fall. Their sooc quality is too good.
If you make money from that camera, or earning enough to get it for fun, it's not a bad choice to get the latest if you enjoy it.
I think they got alot of money from
The first z6 and z7
look at this new version. They give dual chips and card slots everything better than first version but start with lower price than first version around 300$
what that means? .......
Lol 🤣🤣 🤣
@@omlet.layer8783 I have a first generation z6. It works perfectly fine and I still get the shots I need. I bet you have never even touched a Z6 before? Brained washed by all the TH-cam influencers.
No one wants to see Nikon fail, esp. the folks @ Nikon and the Japanese government. They'd lose too much face.
time to sale my d850 for Z 6II.
main one z 6II and second body Z 6
I love Nikon, yes biased AF... I think their images are beautiful, the ergonomics and controls are fantastic and their lense technology incredible. Do they have room for improvement absolutely but this is a company that makes a great product. Your constant negative reviews are damaging and lack a full understanding of the real capabilities of the product. Example you complaining about them putting two processors, so what, why the hell not?! Are you a goddam expert in chip technology?
Same here. I just like to use Nikons, ever since Nikkormats. And like driving your classic car, due to passion and nostalgia, I just like to take out one of these screw AF D-lenses for a day on the road. There.
heyyy dude.. dual processor of 2 years ago tech just mean doing faster ,NOT better, for example af !! in this point of view i am agree with jared..it is kinda less working in side of nikon ! like your iphone 10 with dual old tech processor get released in 2021 !! you would say :hey it is great then ?!
Summary of all the comments : You know nothing Jared Polin .
You are shouting and almost screaming. And you don´t have the camera on hand.
Why you puts off man?
Anyone else notice this channel is starting to sound like the discontinued cable show call "MANswers"? It may be time to discontinue viewing this too....a bit heavy on the whining for me these days.
Nikon Z6 SHINES! I'm a pro shooter, after multi year intensive use of Sony A7Ri, A7S, A7Rii, A7iii.... all too fragile, and the Nikon sensor and colour ? superb !
I'm looking at finally getting a new camera for wildlife photography/nature photography and have been considering the A7rii. I went to Nikon's site to see about the Z7 ii and it is really expensive compared to the Arii with similar megapixel count. But the images and colors look really beautiful from what I can tell. I'll probably go with the Arii or riii because I can't afford to spend 3000 on a body.
Rubbish video. Even a non-photographer can read spec sheet & talk these novice stuff. A photographer like you should know that there is nothing except pro sports that these cameras can’t achieve. It no longer lacks any critical feature for any genre of photography unless you want to shoot Olympics with them. We don’t need photographer to read specs for us. These cameras are improved in subtle ways that make them much more capable than meets the eye. To name only few: 900 sec long exposure, firmware update through snapbridge, Timelapse providing raw images as well, USB-C power delivery even while streaming through web utility software, battery grip with controls, hot swappable battery grip, additional USB-C on grip so that one can be used for power & other for tethering/software connect, more buffer, dual card slot, faster frame rate, eye AF in video, Eye AF in wide mode, dual processor, 4K 60, multiple exposure with previous shot image in card, etc. etc. TH-camrs start talking about camera in few minutes of launch without carefully studying details.
So true, they just look at the specs, no new sensor? bad, no change in body? bad, no 4k120? bad, no 8K, bad? After all its no longer about what a camera can do well, its all about matching the specs of the competitor, nothing about how they perform better than competition with the specs that they have
I guess they want a camera that can wipe their ass and flip pancakes too
Whatever Nikon does haters will hate , JARED should admit he shouldn’t have jumped ship and quit trying to find weaknesses in Nikon’s new system. Anyone with two brain cells can recognize that the widest flange in the market together with the shortest distance of the sensor produce lenses that the competition can only dream of!!
Right. The point is, everyone is jumping on AF only. No one talks quality, reliability and usability these days.
@@endtimeimages3284 Nikon's dSLRs have 99% reliable autofocus and best image quality, but everyone bitches about lack of video functions. There is no winning, the whole blogging review industry seems to be against Nikon, likely because Nikon not paying them for favorable reviews
Seems Nikon doesn't want to pay you guys to promote the cameras so you choose to bash them every chance you get. Now go to make a sniff test or something.
Yeah totally agree . Jared is all about bashing Nikon . Too bad he comes off as cheesy
Exactly! He starts off bashing and then reads 20 upgraded features. On top of that he is just reading specs and hasn't even used it. He's a 🤡
Y’all don’t have to watch the video 🤷🏽♂️
You do know that at heart, Jared is now a Sony person. He made a whole video on how he sold his entire Nikon kit about ~2-3 years ago... I get the sense that while some argue that what the Z II is now should have been the Z on day one, people (both Canon and Sony people) are on the defense because Canon's 8k over promised, and under performed, and Sony delivered some, well, unexciting updates this year.... an A7C that's the same size as an a6000, and the A7S III.
To me that look like 2 fantastic cameras with no shortcomings. Since they "just" fixed the things which bothered people, they did not offend their Z6 and Z7 customers. The 2 processors may also be much more effective - not only because of double the processing power, but also because of better cooling (large surface).
And: two processors are better for redundancy. Similar to two card slots. I think it's time to talk bad about canon for having only one processor 😂
To me they look like fine offerings for 2018.. definitely not a reason to buy into a system in 2020. Nikon has been far behind.. they really need a homerun right about now, not a base hit.
@@TizOnly1 agreed - I think they could be in serious trouble if these cameras don't catch people's imagination. I hope the reviews are good.
It is getting boring with you, Jared.
You've had so much time to develop, but I don't see any progress in you.
So from now on I will be looking at a different TH-camr....
See Ya!
cut that cord, don't waste any more time checking into his lame channel hoping there will be something of substance.
This is fantastic news for us budget conscious individuals because. New z6 ii and z7 ii means current z6 and z7 should see an awesome price drop and sale prices at the end of the year. If you've been waiting for a z6 or z7 I think Christmas sale this year will be the time to buy!
I can buy one new with a FTZ for £1250 and it’ll be even cheaper now!
@@LlamaFluff Do you think the FTZ adapter will do the job? Because I have a Nikkor 24-85mm but I read online that adapting a lens significatly slows down the AF performance. So would you rather buy the kit lens as well or do you think the adapter is enough?
Seriously man couldn’t wait for that
@SwitchRich in any other circumstancd id say your right but being these were theyre first 2 mirrorless cameras i feel they're going to keep them around and updating them for a while.
@@FM-fh3zt I own an FTZ. Tested it with my 24 70 f2.8, 105 micro. And 50 1.4. Its OK for photo, but too noisy for video. My z 24 70 f4s outperforms them in every af situation.
Check: already pre-ordered my 6 II... my Nikon ❤️ comes slowly back 👍
bruh
I pre-ordered my Z6ii as well! Super excited to have this for next wedding season. 👍🏼
Preordered mine as well!
Jared, I suspect if you were a chef you would wear shirts that say “I use butter”
Hahahahaha !
Jared get over it , everything people wanted they got , Nikon used same bodies to save money , and for the dual expeed processor
Same thing price , i think its a good job Nikon has done . As for autofocus the current z series has really good focus now yes its not as fast as Sony and Canon but Nikon autofocus was always behind as long as i been shooting Nikon 38 yrs and it was suffice enough
Jared, single handedly keeping the lights on at the highlighter factory.
100%!!!!
@Duke_Of_Hammertime TV My theory is that Jared highlights everything in order to get more contrast. In that case, it would make more sense to just use yellow paper.
Now that is funny
Assuming it's a check off.
“Im selling all my nikon gear because i need 2 card slots for professional shoots, and sony is faster af! Its a shame too because nikon has the best glass and quality photos...”
Nikon: my bad jared, heres a better version with 2 card slots and more reliable af, with our state of the art glass.
“Thats it????”
Exactly that....the guy is an arrogant hair permed egocentric attention seeking child.
Bang on!
Nikon is much much better than expensive and overheating cameras 👍Nikon did a good job to produce a mirror less camera during this pandemic with less work force and in this recession time for professional photographers👍
This whinging is giving me a headache!
These cameras are very underwhelming. No "whining", he's only reading out specs.
@@77dris "whinging". The word was chosen deliberately. And is appropriate.
Kai W has uploaded a video if you want to see a 'real' preview
Great job Nikon! This is exactly what we've been waiting for. Excellent ergonomics and handling, best in the business colour science, a great EVF, fantastic lenses, and for the series II: improved autofocus , two card slots, and a proper grip.
The absurd claim that the Z 1.8 primes aren't 'professional' is fortunately seen for what it is (ridiculous) by most. The Z 1.8 primes are sharper and better than the F 1.4 primes, including sharper edge to edge, and they are perfectly acceptable for professionals to use. The only real benefit that 1.2 primes will provide is a slightly shallower depth of field, but comes with the disadvantages of much higher weight and price.
One thing people don't realise regarding 2 card slots: one XQD/CFe card is more reliable than two SD cards, due to the inbuilt error checking in XQD/CFe. They are like a mini SSD.
Of course the 1.8 s's are good, but 1.4 and 1.2 S will be even better.....they aren't even out yet. You can't compare them to 1.4's because they don't exist either.
@@froknowsphoto no doubt, the 1.2s will be amazing and I'm excited for them to be released. In my experience though, the Z1.8s are superior to the f-mount 1.4s.
@@froknowsphoto You are hating so hard on Nikon and everyone that's excited for them 😂 wat 'n doos
@@n1ngnuo As a tuber you need the f1.2 so you can stop it to f8 for best focusing during your vlog 🤓
Look at the reviews on the Nikon S lenses. They are phenomenal. I have most of the F 1.8 primes. They are a pleasure. I am very excited about what the next 2 or 3 years of Nikon lenses. I think we will ALL bein for a treat!
Michael
Superior image files are kind of the point of all this. Quicker AF would be nice, but I wouldn't trade the image quality for it.
How do you know af and general responsiveness is not improved? It has dual processors.
Nikon has the best files, but also the best grip and ergonomics for large hands. I could not live with Sony because of poor ergonomics and inferior color to Nikon .In 2 to 3 years, Nikon will have amazing lenses? People do not understand how powerful the larger flange will be,!
Michael
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Nikon hasn't proven the advantage of the large flange though. Until I see a 24-70 f/1.8 zoom, I'm not convinced that a large mount helps with making faster glass.
The larger flange means the angle the light has to travel to reach the sensor from the periphery is less acute and therefore less distortion. More of the light rays will reach the sensor without having to bend as much- less distortion.
Michael
@@michaelc.kushlan7956 Hmmm I see. That makes sense.
@@professionalpotato4764 better, not faster.
A 1.8 zoom is a fool's dream.
Unless you're Andre The Giant.
I can attest that the S glass is wonderful. Honestly it doesn't read well on a spec sheet but that 50 1.8 is BLISS it's heart achingly wonderful. They are already making the best quality glass, its just that it doesnt have the 'specs' on paper: Lighest, fastest, largest aperture, most expensive, cheapest, most expensive etc. Just are just brain fizzingly joyous to use, joy something that appears to be lacking in every 'influencers' tool kit for the last 12 months.
Sad to see the same BS on every Nikon Shuttered kicked to the curb TH-cam Channel who are no longer on the shortlist. Thanks for your review without having the camera which says a lot about your channel. REALLY THAT'S IT?!
Jared I don’t think these are designed to be flagships, these are what I would call prosumer. The Z9 and 880 will be the flagships
I have to say the "really Nikon..Thats it" is complete clickbait! Nikon is stepping up here and addressing most if not all the issues with there first generation mirrorless. Both of these look really decent and if you are already invested in Nikon are very promising! I have been full time shooter for 30 years and happy with my D850 but will be interested to try out one these second generation mirrorless!
After owning both Sony and Canon mirrorless full frame cameras I still love the Z6/Z7 every time I use them. I went and looked at the Z5 last weekend and it really felt cheap and not worth it at all compared to the Z6. I will be keeping my eye out for cheap Z6s now that V2 has been released. A $1,000 Z6 sounds good to me.
I rented a Z6 a few weeks ago and was impressed. I am planning on getting the Z6ii, but if Z6 prices drop that low, I may get that instead. However, I do like the idea of being able to use the cheaper UHSD cards that I already have. I only have the one XQD card I had to buy to shoot the rented Z6.
@@flipfilms1759 once the Z6ii starts getting out and the Sony A7iv is announced you will find the Z6 at around $1000. Right now you can find them at $1300 used and $1400 grey market new. I'll give it the end of the year.
I picked up the Nikon Z5 to be my main camera for weddings and my Z6 as my back up. I truly can’t tell the difference and feel. I don’t know why you think it feels cheap, but maybe I didn’t notice. But I’m gonna tell you if you’re just using the Z5 for photography you will never tell the difference between it and the Z6.
There is 0 difference in feel with the Nikon Z5 to the Z6. It's the exact same ergonomics and materials on the outside. Every other person who has reviewed the Z5 says it feels the exact same lol.
@@RiposteThis Well I was at Best Buy and they were next to each other and if you knew nothing about cameras and there were no prices on them you would know right away the Z5 was a much cheaper camera. Even the minute you pick them up you can feel the cold on the Z6 that you barely feel on the Z5. Have you actually used, touched and seen both of them or are you just hypothesizing bases on what other people have said because if you haven't your comment is worthless.
Looks fine to me. What’s the big deal about the specs?
You probably had this negative video prerecorded before the actual launch. Nikon already gave everything you asked for and u still bash them. Canon came out with one card slot and no IBS for their first generation. You can say the R6 should of been canons first mirrorless camera 2 years ago??
You haven't even used the camera and already putting out negative vibes. At least use it first 🤦♂️
That’s a really good price for the Z6ii/Z7ii, was expecting a price increase.
Given the fact that the Z7 II is the same price as the a7r IV and the Z6 II is actually more expensive than the a7 III - no, they aren't priced well.
@@youknowwho9247 the price varies between locations and the price would just be going down in months following.
@@youknowwho9247 MSRP price never lasts long. A7R4 msrp was $3500. A7iii msrp was same as Z6/Z6ii. Let’s see if Sony releases the A7iv at $1999, I think it’ll be about 20% more.
I knew he’d find a way to crap on this.
That's all he does
@@Taz86 that's all I do!!!
@@Taz86 I don’t get it, because it’s not even funny anymore. This addresses a lot of issues. If the eye AF is significantly improved, what is there to complain about?
Jared tells it how it is. appreciate his videos and doesn’t sugarcoat anything.
You really think the eye af will improve? Nikon is behind in all things mirrorless and all they did to respond to the Canon R5/6 is very minor updates. It is like an Olympus E-M10 IV which was basically the same as a III which was basically the same as a II. Just because he has been hard on Nikon doesn't make him wrong. Even if it is upsetting.
Did you meanwhile get one of the cams to test? Many other TH-camrs have received some from Nikon (only for a few hours though). I‘d like to hear your hands-on opinion.
As a D850 user, I now have a reason to go to the Z system, which was Nikon's point in the first place.
“I’m a Nikon lover” could have fooled me the last 5 years.
Right? This addressed most of the issues with the Z cameras and he’s still dumping on it. It’s weird because the whole thing depends on the autofocus. If it’s dramatically improved, what else are you even looking for in a camera?
Really? I shot Nikon up until 1 year ago.
@@DieHardEddieEdwards address the problem you had 2 yrs ago when other are moving is called being a sloth... Nikon is always a step back competition. If you are a pro and not just a fan you go for the best, not for the team you spend your emotions in.
@@GabrieleNunnari Most pros dont buy brand new bodies every other week or switch systems on a whim like TH-cam suggests.
I still shoot the D850 because it’s an excellent camera and the Z bodies weren’t good enough. If the autofocus is up to par, I’ll upgrade.
I need a camera with quality autofocus, two card slots and decent video. What else are you looking for these cameras to do?
@@n1ngnuo This. The autofocus was legitimately inferior. If it’s better, I dont get the negative tone of the video. You’ve got the grip, the slots and potentially superior autofocus. Maybe it’s not enough for Jared to switch back to Nikon, but if it’s good, it’s good.
I need to go back and see if you criticize sony and canon for the same things you are criticizing nikon for.
But Canon and Sony don't have the flaws, which the Nikon Z have.
When Canon had their flaws and they dumbed down their cameras he mentioned and did not toned down, he is honest that hurts most people
@@darekm6859 It is certainly OK, if a consumer / hobbyist / family daddy camera has just one card slot. Everyone agrees that it would stink a little, if a camera in such a market segments was dumbed down because of having 1 slot.
But two card slots is a must (a hard criteria) for most professional photography domains. Especially for non-repeatable events (such as weddings).
A camera which Nikon wants to be considered by pros, but has only 1 card slot, deserves a thumb down, if not even a sh'tstorm. Such as the Z6 and Z7. But I remember faintly that one French Nikon manager said once, that the Z were not aimed at professionals but only at consumers. But then Nikon should have made this more clearly in their communications.
@@tubularificationed lol don't be blind.. watch other reviewers .. in dpreview test.. autofocus tracking of r5 in not that great.. in video Camera Conspiracies reviews it on hands and the autofocus fail more than the R.. even here Fro Retardo test, Sony A7r4 tracking missed more than the z7.. no flaws eh? lol
What a joke this channel has become!!!
He’s a sell out
Probably sponsored by Sony! Terribly biased
Launch Summary: two cards slots, increased buffer, more intelligence, two cards slots, largest mount.
Two cards slots
largest mount but slowest lenses lmao
@@willyuan1 lol
Thanks. How's the video on the z6s (z6 ll)? Might preorder one
@Gap 0.95 is manual focus. when i mean slowest is they don’t have many 1.2 lenses
The specs are great. Nikon has improved. But the humor in this video is still like third grade.
Have to disagree. I own a Z6 and I am pretty disappointed with this 2 year improvement. Nothing really new is getting introduced here. 2 card slots should have been there from the beginning as well as a grip and usbc charging. New processors are nice if it weren't the old ones. Video pretty much remains the same and will probably suffer from the same rolling shutter and pixel skipping. you even need to unlock stuff via firmware updates. ah and there is a dx crop on 40k 60, not even fullframe. Can't judge the autofocus yet, but if that's not a 180 degree turn for the better idk... Pretty much the only thing this update does is devalue my Z6.
Amazing how the top two camera reviewers are so grating in their own way. Many better and worthwhile opinions out there without the lame gags and try hard clickbait titles.
Jared, you're probably making too big a deal about the name -- being mark II. Nikon could just be changing their naming convention, where the next models could be mk III, mk IV and so on. If they'd called it the Z6s/Z7s, what would the next models be? Z8/Z9? Apparently there is already a Z9 in the works which will be more akin to the Sony Flagship, A9.
Stop complaining
If you don’t like it, don’t buy it
Simple
The snobbery is real with this one.
I have the z6, picked up the z50, and just got the z5 and I love them all. Think I will add the z7ii to my collection. The z5 is in my opinion the best out of the 3 for photography. It seems to focus quicker and find the eyes better then my z6. That Being said you can’t go wrong with with all three of them for photography. But for video the Z6
Come on Jared, 2x Expeed 6 is more than enough to match a new 1DX processor from Canon in terms raw processing power.
I think he was referring to more than just processing power. For example they're still stuck with 8-bit internal recording which is a possible limitation of the processor used. A new processor would have allowed them to go 10-bit like almost all of the other cameras that have been released recently.
I own two Z6 cameras, battery packs, 70-200 f2.8, 24-70 f2.8 & 85mm f1.8, I shoot weddings, yeah with one card slot, completely confident, absolutely no problems. I use eye detect and tracking options all the time don't really miss any frame which is out of focus. The files are great, colours, quality, etc. Loads of great systems out there, Canon, Sony, etc doing a brilliant job....and? I get great results and my clients are very happy. No need to upgrade to this new tweaked range of cameras, the Z6 still does a brilliant job for me and I am not worried about any price drop in resale as I am too busy taking photographs with my existing kit. I will be happy to wait another two years for the Z9
I had a Canon R but the cost of the lenses and their size sent me to the Nikon Z6. I love it. Added the z50 which was also a pleasant surprise. And you can use the same lenses, unlike Canon’s APS-C alternative which has few lenses anyway. I am hopeful I can now afford the Z7.
That is a typical mistake many amateurs make, choosing a body before ecosystem is an expensive goof. But a camera does not a professional make...
You can use full frame lenses on Canon APS-C bodies.
Canon's full frame lenses fit APS-C
@@darkerarts Canon RF lenses do not fit Canon M bodies. The Canon mirrorless system is disjointed.
@@RobertoPavan I didn't say M range, did I numb nuts. You can use EF (full frame) on the EF-S mount, which is the APS-C, or cropped. The R range don't have a cropped sensor yet.
Jared, you have not a clue.
What more does it need? Just use it first, the improvements may on the surface look small but if it’s faster autofocus, better dynamic range, better grip and 2 cards it may just be what DSLR shooters need to jump over. Puts it pretty close to the R5/6 to me. Who needs 2 seconds of 8K?
z7ii or z6ii. which of the two cameras has better ibis?
Don’t think there will be any Nikon product getting any positive feedback here.
oh really? How many times do I have to say the files are the best off a Nikon?
@@froknowsphoto I don't see you constantly comparing Sony and Canon on their videos and keep talking about how they have not caught up with Nikon in image quality? When it comes to Nikon, you always want to have a reason to crap on them. You always say their AF needs to catch up. And now when they caught up, you have new things to crap on Nikon. Shame on you!
Where's the best place to sell your gear when upgrading cameras?
KEH camera store
@@operatus1 Just checked them out, looks like a good place. Thank you!
How does the new iPhone 12 have 4:2:2 10-bit internal recording and the z6ii doesn't?
They probably could’ve if you wanted an all in one toaster/camera combo as in the Canon R6.
Apple makes the fastest mobile chips on the planet by a large margin. Nikon doesn't.
Apple is worth literally over 500 times what Nikon is. Apple sells Nikon's entire net worth in just iPads every six weeks. So, yeah.
is apple doing it on a full frame sensor ?
@@drwalka10 😂 nope
Nikon built its reputation in recent years on four things about its DSLRs 1. Best image quality (shared with Sony), best handling (shared with Canon) best build quality and best autofocus (shared with nobody!). The new Zs are intended to restore those qualities to its foray into the mirrorless market. If Nikon achieves that, job done and the future will be bright, particularly if the proposed pro-spec Z9 takes this progress another step further.
Sadly Nikon Z6ii and Z7ii do not deliver the expectations. By the time Z9 comes out, Sony and Canon will introduce something similar.
@@chanjeff4406 Mmmmm......I doubt it. I don’t have any attachment to any particular brand (unlike this and some other TH-cam commentators) and have used and owned Olympus, Pentax, Canon, Nikon and more recently, Panasonic. What I do know is that Nikon produced the pinnacle of DSLR cameras in the D850. I can see no reason why they won’t do the same with mirrorless now they are fully invested in it. If, and I know it’s unproven yet, Nikon have developed class-equalling (or leading) AF in the Z II s, then I think the whole package would be an amazing achievement for such a late entry into this market. Sony need to sort their poor handling and Canon some of their quality/technical issues or I see Nikon slowly regaining the premier position they once occupied.
@@davidbowman6740 mirrorless is a different story. Sony and Canon have invested much more time on mirrorless than Nikon. Surely Nikon will improve but the question is can Nikon leapfrog the others in the mirrorless game. As for the AF, we have yet to see if the Z II catch up with Sony A7S3 and Canon R5/R6 so it is too early to draw a conclusion. Btw Sony has improved a menu and used a new screen design on A7S3, but Nikon Z6ii/Z7ii get stuck on the original design.
Disclaimer: I am a Nikon user.
@@chanjeff4406 it’s true that Nikon has been playing catch up but they do know how to make a photographer’s camera. Having handled most of the current mirrorless options, with a view to deciding which to invest in, the Zs just felt right in my hands. For my style of photography, which is wildlife, the AF is critical. Interestingly, Matthieu Gasquet, who is the most neutral and reliable tester of mirrorless cameras for birds in flight, found the Z6 to be the 2nd most capable for AF (and he’s tested them all) only marginally behind the Sony A9 II. Yet, to listen to the TH-camrs you wouldn’t think it. That’s the advantage of listening to someone who spends the time to properly set up a camera and has the skill to use it. So, with dual processors and updated algorithms, it seems reasonable to assume that the Z II s will be a bit special. Throw in the stunning quality of the new S lenses and I’m very tempted.
@@davidbowman6740 We all have our preferences on the selection of cameras. Happy to know that the Z6 and Z system serve you well.
I love how your sheet of notes is completely covered in highlighter, instead of just the points needing highlighting.
Please suggest me Which nikon mirrorless to buy for post processing files. Also for weddings photography and videography, fashion, portrait, portfolio 🙏
He won’t stop until he gets a floppy screen and a 120hz evf...
It's well known throughout this video it's basically what he's trying to do right now..
Has it been confirmed the EVF is 60 hz?
I don't like Jared that much, I think his opinions are to brash and even too harsh sometime. He is sometime (often) too focused on his own needs over what other photographers really want or need. I watch him because it his a quick way to get a lot of news and rumors without having to look for it myself.
But he explicitly said in the video that he don't care about a flip screen...
@@MegaBriarpatch no. it's unbelievable, but similarly to their video bitrates nikon isn't publishing the official evf refresh... they did say it's "higher during burst mode than the previous models" -- whatever that means.
@@punkrachmaninoff , that might explain the shorter blackout time, if the EVF's refresh bumps up to 120hz in burst model. Whatever it takes to effectively reduce blackout time, I'l take it. : )
Nikon ain't that bad as TH-camrs say they are ! The quality you get is better than the others !
This fixation with "more, more, more!" is getting tiring, especially from TH-camrs who say from the other side of their mouth, "The gear matters but it's not the most important thing." Ok, I haven't used the R5/A9II AF, so you did say I lacked context, but after using autofocus cameras for a year or two or a lot more, I like that it is there but also work at a pace that other cameras manage.
For the numbering, I think Nikon decided that either numbers in the series, with the "s" for intermediate updates, would work, or they needed to switch completely to II/III/... Otherwise, what would the next cameras be? Z7t and Z6t?
Overall, I think reviewers are whining about this too much. Most people with Nikon bodies will either
1. Keep their Z6/Z7
2. Keep their DSLRs
3. Switch from their DSLRs to the Z6II/Z7II
4. Switch from the Z6/Z7 to Z6II/Z7II.
The 2 card slots, vertical grip option, and two processors make all #3/4 easier to do.
So Nikon has two bodies which offer a far better user experience than any Sony and better images and is cheaper than thr equivalent Canons. Seems like a winner to me.
So unimpressed by the Z6 II particularly. It's the video camera of the bunch, and the only _actual_ improvement it gets to its output is some garbage crop factor 4k60 that isn't even in the firmware yet? Very glad I pulled the trigger on the original Z6 last year.
As always, the best in the business, THANK YOU
You are 100% it’s not only that it’s old technology, but expensive as a system for what it does.
Will the software updates come to the z6 and z7 to allow crop 4k 60. I want to buy the z6, the only thing that really matters to me is the better video autofocus, and the usb-c power. If these things come to the original z6 I would be super happy. Do you know if the firmware will come to that?
Hi. In my expereince, Z6 has already very good video autofocus, especially on human face tracking. It is better than Fuji and Panasonic - don't worry about it.
What's "Official" about this preview?
Nothing! Kai W managed to get his hands on them...
@@catmonkey6826 😆
i have a question, will the battery grip suit NIKON Z6 which i own right now ? please clarify sir
No there is no way to attach it to a z6
We see only minor changes in all cameras still we use the editor for photos.
Ok people. Just a personal thought. Well opinion I guess but apparently the opinion of many. I thought the idea of having a good camera and glass was to get the best images we can achieve. I am thinking when it comes to actual image quality it's hard to beat Nikon for there quality, color, dynamic range. I guess I was wrong about cameras and we are just suppose to see how many pics we can get in the shortest time. Well I am sticking to my thought process. I am using a D850 with mostly Zeiss glass which are all manual focus. Yes I might not get them all but what I do get I would put up against pretty much what's out there in this class of gear
Nikon for ever .... And stop cry all you need they give you with this models at least they dont overheading like sony and canon
OVERHEADING?! I have four Sony camera bodies and none of them OVERHEAD!
Whats the best point shoot camera for fast moving objects?
As much as I love my Z6, I do agree that Nikon is still 2 years behind the pack. They just need to release the rest of the lenses soon! I was really hoping for a flippy screen on the Z6II. Other than that, it's a nice update. Do you remember when the D3 was announced and then the D3s and D3x was announced? How was the reaction back then?
So the smallest company is a generation behind but still building absolutely viable cameras for 95% of photographers.
Much Better autofocus and 4K 60 full-frame is minimum. No 4K 60 yet and probably not full frame, no 4K 120 that would be super.
@@axm2689 Like all the other company, the question is more about, can you sell them.
"Nikon is still 2 years behind the pack"? What? Nikon is slightly behind in eye AF. That's it.
Will the new vertical grip fit the current Z6 / Z7? asking for a friend
Nikon is leading the industry in innovation....said noone ever.
the writing is on the wall for Nikon
In terms of dslrs yes (d850, d500, d1...) But mirrorless they are a bit behind...and I'm about to buy a d500 and may buy a d780 at the same time
Hope that the Z6 and Z7 mark II do well...
Im a Canon Shooter, but we need competition between 3 brands to get the industry going.... We need that camera trinity of Sony, Canon and Nikon..
There is no pixel shift mode but why? Hardware is there and they had the time.
...because Nikon.
What about external 12 bit RAW video in Blackmagic RAW format? We should buy Blackmagic recorder or Atomos will do it?
“Two of an older processor” -- ridiculous complaint
Didn't Nikon provide you a pre-production model? :)
Think you're conflating the 'S' with different model number - it's like an apples/oranges thing. If the camera was called a z650 then a z650s would make more sense than a z750. I think 's' and 'II' is the same thing personally. Just wait til the z666 comes out - may be a world -ender
Hey jared,
Which one would you prefer between D850 and Z7ll?
Where's all this energy when Sony releases it's new cameras? They all are pretty much the same body, same for Fuji X series. This is a common thing regardless of brand.
did you watch the a7C one?
Except that Sony and Fuji are innovators. Nikon is a follower.
@@stevemckenzie4731 Not even that, they Are left behind.
But the Sony are the leaders ; and the last time they have 4 slots , a new viewfinder with better magnification refresh time and resolution etc. this camera is build in hope it will match one year old Sony cameras
The alpha series may share the same design in bodies but Sony has done more in Cameras than anyone the last 10 years
Olympus you have to plug camera in with a special cable! I am still going to just use my Z 50, love that, but what I am waiting for is the Z 200-600mm lens!
Maybe chat to Ricci next time so you can get all the correct spec details.
You think the battery grip will also work on the first gen Z6/7?
2 Cards,
2 function buttons,
Separate iso button,
Separate zoom buttons,
Ibis,
Constant charging,
Good specs,
Overall good ergonomics
Yep, they're almost where Sony was years ago ...
@@stevemckenzie4731 ha ha ha ha ha Sony ergonomics absolutely SUCK
@@bencollins7684 Ho hum, as usual the Sony haters always end up bitching about Sony's ergonomics and menu system. Is that the best you can do? No camera's perfect but I'll take a sub-optimal menu system and ergonomics every day of the week if it means I get the innovation and features that Sony has offered since the first A7 series was released.
Canon user here, I sympathise with Nikon because we may be headers for few month, every body is forgetting the the last 8 years of bashing.( since 5dmkIIi).I personnaly think 2021 will be a canon/nikon year (z9/r1)!!!
These should totally be "S" models - I don't get the "II" decision. Least of my concerns these days. :)
I think this is a generous list of improvements & additions to two already great cameras. That said, I'm super happy with my Z6, no urgency to upgrade. Maybe spring 2021, depending on promotions / price drops. I'll invest in some glass in the meantime - the 20 1.8 and the 85 1.8 🤓
I have a Nikon Zf and I'm looking to aquire a second backup body, that's affordable and takes my Z mount lenses. I’m leaning towards the Nikon Z5, but with the recent price drops the Z6ii is not much more. Nearly everyone I've spoken to who actually owns a Z5 or Z6ii, LOVES it. I do love my Zf, but I want something that will act as a more ergonomic and compact backup. I shoot portraits and headshots and an occasional relaxed family session. I don't need speed, and I don’t plan on doing video with this backup. I played with a Z5 in the store a bit and it felt great to use. In use, I couldn’t really tell much difference between the Z5 and Z6ii.
Here is my question:
Is there any reason I would want a Z6II over a Z5? Remember, speed is not important to me, and neither is high ISO. But now that the price of the Z5 and Z6II are close, which is a better choice?
I also want to get another lens or two, so if I get a Z5 (vs. Z6II) I will have more leeway and budget to do so.
Any Z6ii owners that also shoot Zf or Z5?
Thanks in advance, I am loving coming back to Nikon! I’m liking my Zf a lot and I’m looking forward to adding another Nikon body to my kit!
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Can I ask if the FPS will get better if Z7 II is shoot in Crop mode? thanks
Nikon did a great job at keeping the new mirrorless system up to date in record time and this upgrade was very necessary, I can't wait for the rumored z9
Jared, I wonder if Cannon pays you to diss Nikon. Be fair and comment after using a product. Your review is not beneficial except for Jared al e
Sony probably has many tubers on their pay roll.....
I think this is a good upgrade for anyone who has a Z6 or wants a second mirrorless body.
Most shooters are going to get the Z6 II for $800 to $1k depending on how much they can sell their current Z6 for.
If you're shooting people and all you want is to turn your backgrounds to unrecognizable blurs eye AF is an amazing feature but if you know how to compose a scene the last thing you want is to shoot below f5.6 maybe f4 or f3.5 but you should be able to shoot at f10, f16 etc.
exactly on the selling part. I didn't want to go down that rabbit hole and explain that this time around.
@@froknowsphoto that's understandable. Nikon needs to boost sales, what better way to do than from those who already bought into the system.
My d850 is still holding up solid
Yes. Nikon D850 is a solid camera but this may also imply that the Z7ii is not an attractive upgrade after all...
Well even my D600 is doing fantastic.
Video not really but I don't care at all about video.
Will the grip also work on the original Z7?
No
For anyone complaining about not having a 'flippy screen' so you can see yourself while you vlog to your 45 TH-cam subscribers - go buy the qdslrdashboard app and a hot shoe bracket for your phone for
I mean, when you consider the fact that the Z6 and Z7 were very good cameras, just a little slow, lacked a usable vertical grip, and needed dual card slots it makes pretty good sense that this would be the follow up.
not when R5 has 20 fps, 8k video, dual pixel af, better processor, better EVF, flip out screen and more
I guess we will see. The R5 is not lacking for issues. I think these are nice upgrades for Nikon people waiting for Nikon to land a good professional grade mirrorless offering. As an R5 owner I would say the primary issue that would be the deal killer here is a lack of internal 10 bit video recording.
@@willyuan1 , you're comparing a camera that costs $3900 (R5 body) with a camera that costs $2697 (Z7II body)?