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Shady gave Pat a second chance to take shift gear over dragon dance, but said nothing about taking dragon dance over victory dance, which it seems like they both forgot exists.
Sometimes it's not worth taking over Dragon Dance, when the defense boost might not be as valuable. While taking Dragon Dance can lock it out of their opponent's normal movesets; So in that respect it might make sense to take DDance first, but after that you should definitely double dip into VDance for sure lol.
Rabsca being named REVIVAL?! and being out on the field when Charlie the Clefable used Revival Blessing made it seemed like that was its reaction. Like if Rabsca was yelling, "REVIVAL?!"-all anime villain-like-as Charlie the Clefable did the deed.
When I saw fizzarolli in a pokemon video I had mental whiplash, the fact that patterz has watched or is atleast somewhat farmiliar with the TH-cam animated series helluva boss is wild.
I think for videos like this one, where the weakest Pokemon matters, I enjoy the opponent choosing you Pokemon more. Not only does it allow for considering typing and movepool in what is actually the weakest but it also opens up another tactical dimension in trying to screw up your opponents team composition.
@@alicedodobirb2808, only on certain Pokémon, I feel. Most things won't be able to make much use of one side of the boosts and not being able to switch (aside from certain methods) can spell disaster...a mixed attacker, something abusing Stored Power/Power Trip, or something with a pivot move (because things like U-Turn and Volt Switch override the No Retreat clause).
@@Alsebra Imagine Shady's face if one of his friends got hit with the "would you like to reconsider joining us in the modern meta of setup moves" question and pulled out Tidy Up.
20:49 Incredible Shady moment: "Wooow, race to the finish!" With quotes like this, I feel like Shady is racing to the bottom. of my heart. I love this man
Choose your starter while only knowing the Tera type of their top (Smogon) set. This silliness just came to my mind. I don't work with Smogon enough to know if it's balanced or we're just looking at getting some unfun rounds of "Steel, Steel or Steel". Could be a fun exercise in guessing if it's an offensive or defensive typing for what the mon's type actually is.
Been watching Shady since back in the Lumiose Station days.. love that his genuine pureness hasn’t changed over the years. One of my favorite TH-camrs!
Pat getting into Helluva Boss/Hazbin Hotel I see.... loving to see Fizz on screen and not being the only one who keeps naming Pokemons after the characters haha!
Since Whimsicott doesn't have Prankster, wouldn't it have been better to just give it Nuzzle? That way, it gets 100% accuracy vs the 90% of TWave and can break any potential sash or sturdy.
I would really love to see this again with the knowledge from tje comments! Like when you guys said “Rapid Spin” remembering that Tidy Up exists, and is a better dragon dance. Removing hazards and setting up, without being counterable by a ghost type like rapid spin. As well as Victory Dance being a better DDance. Maybe even No Retreat. SPEAKING OF TIDY UP, Population Bomb I think would be a HILARIOUS move to grab.
I love this video idea because you use mons we hardly ever see used! Would love more videos with underutilized Pokemon. Perhaps there's a way to have no legendaries show up in the randomizer? Either way, great content as always. The chemistry is great
Love your videos Shady! I looked up to you for such a long time and glad you are still making stuff! Love who you collab with and hope you keep creating more! 😄
@@robinsr4745 only by a bit and I’d guess he would’ve built it physical since most of Pat’s team was physical. And I don’t think it negates the terrain but it would ignore Shift Gear which was a lot of the strat with it
People are right, you can tell the difference between the two urshifus by looking at its head, if it has upward black spikes on the side its Single Strike, if it has downward white spikes then its Rapid Strike
Video idea Shady, each person chooses whichever starter they want without the other person seeing, then the opponent gives them the Held Item and Ability which have to Synergize with each other. For example Magic Guard/Life Orb or Lagging Tail/Analytic, Choice Items are banned from this. The opponent might give you an item/ability combination that is BUSTED with your choice without knowing it or they might give you a combo that your Pokemon can’t utilize effectively. Chaos hopefully ensues! 😄
Hmm...your opponent chooses from the lies? That could be interesting. I think a lie bank could be interesting. 6 total lies, you don't have to say in advance whether you use any that round. So you could lie about none of them or 3 of them, and the opponent doesn't know.
@@robertbeisert3315 yeah my comment was more of a joke how poketubers videos become harder and harder to actually Geass what pokemon it is I saw a video about 1 lie and you get to know the main color of the mon
@@indominusrex2859I saw one that said "know the first letter of the pokemon, but ones a lie" Like... How you supposed to know?? These poketubers getting very creative lol
Hey shady, from the uk and love the content! You should do a format where both players have to pick the starter pokemon in the same position and you have to persuade each other to use the option you want. You can lie about one starter to try and throw off the other player.
Hydro steam is rlly cool, I rlly wanna use walking wake with it for my sun team since water is one of my last blind spots on there, but I also get that if you don't run sun it's a dogwater move
I have a fun idea for a challenge. Could y’all please catch eight Pokemon of your choice that all have random abilities. Both of you also get to pick out the move sets after catching the Pokemon. Once you both acquire teams, read off each of your team members’ Pokedex entries. If the one being read to correctly identifies a Pokemon entry, he gets the option to force a trade without knowing the moveset of the identified Pokemon. The player who gets the identity correct is also able to pick out a custom ability for the traded Pokemon. Sabotaging some of your own team members is legal. Let’s say that the two leftover Pokemon with easy Pokédex entries are physical attackers like Machamp. You can rigg the entire moveset to be special or support moves. The Pokemon can’t be pseudo legends, legends, paradox, ultra beast, mythical or, starters to make it a bit more challenging.
Love the video as always. If you ever do something similar, you should do it based of the starter, not the evolution, so that you can get things like cosmog and kubfu. Might be a little less balanced though
9:51 the fur on its knees is literally down when it is rapid strike and stands up when is single strike. Like so they can see and finally learn the difference
Victory Dance once again becoming the lonely only child. Funny thing, no ones talking about COIL! Atk, Def, ACC, making Supercell Slam never miss. Perfect for Electivire, if shift gear wasn’t the favourite child
Fun video idea. It will test your friendship, You and pat have to catch one Pokémon from each gen and if you both get the correct Pokémon from each gen you get to either have a custom ability or move.
What a banging couple of battles and you managed to make some busted builds too and some really intelligent plays from both sides, both playing chess today. This is top tier then we fight content.
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Next time nor the weakest or the strongest
Only just middle strong or weak pokemon
Why is that guy in the thumbnail…
lol venomoth
Legendary memories thanks to that venomoth sweep 😂
Maybe it’s ’cause Mr. Penguin won’t let you live it down
In your nightmares still bro? 😂
Dylan I recently seen your short on the bonsly incident 😂 😊
Patterz: "I want to lock in dragon dance."
Victory Dance: Am I a joke to you?
He was so close to stealing Quiver Dance from Shady's Lurantis and still getting a direct upgrade, too.
There’s also tidy up which is also a better dragon dance, same effect but removes hazards.
And literally No retreat
no retreat is also a solid option
thats what i was thinking expserly for lareantis
Shady: "Do you want a move other than Dragon Dance?"
Me: "Victory Dance, obviously"
Pat: "Oh, Shift Gear"
_nevermind i guess_
I was surprised one of them chose Dragon Dance later on anyway, instead of Victory Dance
Same thought process
I'm losing my mind
And there's Tidy Up which is also a direct upgrade from d dance.
@@Czar-625 Tidy up also clear the hazard on your opponent's field, so if you used spikes or rocks then tidy up is wasting them
Shady gave Pat a second chance to take shift gear over dragon dance, but said nothing about taking dragon dance over victory dance, which it seems like they both forgot exists.
No retreat is also a solid option
I literally kept thinking about victory dance insane they forgot
Sometimes it's not worth taking over Dragon Dance, when the defense boost might not be as valuable. While taking Dragon Dance can lock it out of their opponent's normal movesets;
So in that respect it might make sense to take DDance first, but after that you should definitely double dip into VDance for sure lol.
Rabsca being named REVIVAL?! and being out on the field when Charlie the Clefable used Revival Blessing made it seemed like that was its reaction. Like if Rabsca was yelling, "REVIVAL?!"-all anime villain-like-as Charlie the Clefable did the deed.
9:03 with the helluva boss reference? Let’s goooo Pat!!!
Video Idea: Choose your starter by only knowing a move they use in the TCG
Elite suggestion
I personally believe that's best idea I've ever heard suggested for one of these videos
I can't believe that Shady is a man━
How only 4 likes and no comments??
You played well. Also, I'll eat my lasagna if Fizzarolli wasn't a Helluva Boss reference and Charlie wasn't Hazbin Hotel. You're based AF for that
Patterz how about choose your starter but they can only have 3 moves but all moves can be illegal
should've picked no retreat
Patterrz had the opportunity to improve dragon dance to victory dance and pushed it away
he upgraded it to shift gear, as far as I'm concerned that's better.
Victory dance is a physical quiver dance
And then made the same mistake in the next round
@@meekumanu not on electabuzz
To be fair shift gear is probably better on a relatively slower Pokémon like electivire. And it gets a defense boost from the seed anyway.
When I saw fizzarolli in a pokemon video I had mental whiplash, the fact that patterz has watched or is atleast somewhat farmiliar with the TH-cam animated series helluva boss is wild.
I came here to see if anyone else noticed!!!
I seem to have found my people
I was simultaneously surprised and happy to hear his name come up here of all places.
Yeah, it's a really underrated and unknown animated series on youtube.......
I almost Shouted! It's always cool to see references to stuff you like, and HH/HB references don't seem to come up a ton in pokemon content.
I think a small tweak that could be funny is if you also couldn’t evolve the pokemon with the lowest BST. You just get what you get lol
Or better yet, devolve them if theyre evolved
I think for videos like this one, where the weakest Pokemon matters, I enjoy the opponent choosing you Pokemon more. Not only does it allow for considering typing and movepool in what is actually the weakest but it also opens up another tactical dimension in trying to screw up your opponents team composition.
VICTORY. DANCE. WHY ARE WE SO OBSESSED WITH DD WITH THAT STILL ON THE BOARD
Even Tidy Up is a step up.
No retreat anyone?
@@alicedodobirb2808, only on certain Pokémon, I feel. Most things won't be able to make much use of one side of the boosts and not being able to switch (aside from certain methods) can spell disaster...a mixed attacker, something abusing Stored Power/Power Trip, or something with a pivot move (because things like U-Turn and Volt Switch override the No Retreat clause).
@@Alsebra yeah but its nice to have options :)
@@Alsebra Imagine Shady's face if one of his friends got hit with the "would you like to reconsider joining us in the modern meta of setup moves" question and pulled out Tidy Up.
Shady being adorably nice 2 minutes into the video - you KNOW this is about to bite him in the ass in one of the battles. It happens every time.
The risk you take from commenting before watching is seeing your comment being proven horrifically wrong
Never cook again
@@alexanderelderhorst2107 "horrifically wrong" - bros acting like my silly prediction on a Then We Fight is life changing if I get it wrong lol
Tbf Pat being adorably nice counteracted Shady's being nice.
@@alexanderelderhorst2107 its not that deep, you're the one embarrassing yourself
20:49 Incredible Shady moment: "Wooow, race to the finish!"
With quotes like this, I feel like Shady is racing to the bottom. of my heart. I love this man
I love these two. The sportsmanship in the beginning was so wholesome.
Patterrz stays being one of the nicest guys in this circle of friends by taking the time out of his day to make sure Shady can't miss anymore t-waves
Pat's word jumble at 15:47 was amazing. I resonate hard with that thought Pat!! Much love Shady!
Eevee is tan,
Rhydon is grey,
Now Patterz, I am a man.
‘Kay
I love Pat naming mons after Hazbin and Helluva characters so much in these battles.
Shady sleeping on an unsheeted Helix mattress is crazy.
thats how the top 0.1% in the world sleeps
Its for the ad they have to show the mattress prob has a cover for it
Choose your starter while only knowing the Tera type of their top (Smogon) set. This silliness just came to my mind. I don't work with Smogon enough to know if it's balanced or we're just looking at getting some unfun rounds of "Steel, Steel or Steel". Could be a fun exercise in guessing if it's an offensive or defensive typing for what the mon's type actually is.
Been watching Shady since back in the Lumiose Station days.. love that his genuine pureness hasn’t changed over the years. One of my favorite TH-camrs!
Pat getting into Helluva Boss/Hazbin Hotel I see.... loving to see Fizz on screen and not being the only one who keeps naming Pokemons after the characters haha!
That first battle revival of lurantis was insane
I love how you are showing the explanations of why you picked the pokemon and what the plan with the pokemon is. I hope there is more of this.
22:49 the big brain play would've been give it Stone Axe.
8:59 HE KNOWS US- HE KNOWS HELLUVA BOSS
The reverse video edit here really tripped me up 1:50
This is easily the best video ive seen of this format. As much as i love tera normal e spead arceus, seeing what yall make if these guys was great
Since Whimsicott doesn't have Prankster, wouldn't it have been better to just give it Nuzzle? That way, it gets 100% accuracy vs the 90% of TWave and can break any potential sash or sturdy.
Nuzzle feels left behind, hillarious vid though, love your guys' vibe!
Just wait until you hear about glare
@@Fabi3014 Nuzzle = Glare with damage no?
@@nicholasgallant5905 glare can paralyze ground types
@@Fabi3014 Fair enough
I would really love to see this again with the knowledge from tje comments! Like when you guys said “Rapid Spin” remembering that Tidy Up exists, and is a better dragon dance. Removing hazards and setting up, without being counterable by a ghost type like rapid spin. As well as Victory Dance being a better DDance. Maybe even No Retreat.
SPEAKING OF TIDY UP, Population Bomb I think would be a HILARIOUS move to grab.
They're not able to be creative on the spot like that.
Dude Unburden with Stuff Cheeks would've been CRAZY!
I love this video idea because you use mons we hardly ever see used! Would love more videos with underutilized Pokemon. Perhaps there's a way to have no legendaries show up in the randomizer? Either way, great content as always. The chemistry is great
Shady and Dylan are the Dads Being Dudes. Shady and Pat are Respectful Gentlemen Being Respectful
“Going first is basically who gets Quiver Dance…”
No one picks Quiver Dance the whole time.
I will not stand for this Zangoose slander!! 41:22 :::::::(((((((((
7:00 i hereby introduce you to my counterpoint: cosmog
Love your videos Shady! I looked up to you for such a long time and glad you are still making stuff! Love who you collab with and hope you keep creating more! 😄
I like that he didn’t even use the Unaware Hatterene who would’ve just ignored Electivire’s entire existence xD
Does terrain boost get nullified by unaware?
If not hatterene would still take decent damage I think since its more specially defensive.
@@robinsr4745 only by a bit and I’d guess he would’ve built it physical since most of Pat’s team was physical. And I don’t think it negates the terrain but it would ignore Shift Gear which was a lot of the strat with it
You can tell which urshifu it is by the fur on the legs too
Bet Dylan’s getting flashbacks from venomoth 😂
People are right, you can tell the difference between the two urshifus by looking at its head, if it has upward black spikes on the side its Single Strike, if it has downward white spikes then its Rapid Strike
Hydro Steam is boosted by Rain and Sun, that's the secondary effect.
I would LOVE it if you guys recorded your reactions during ability drafting and included it in the video
Pat should have taken victory dance instead of dragon dance
nah shift gear is strictly better dragon dance in the same sense, it just doubles speed instead of adding the defense buff
@@SweetzTheOne but he still took dragon dance and there's no reason to over victory dance
@@SweetzTheOne they're referring to when Pat gave Lurantis dragon dance
I'm still baffled by the ignoring of Tidy Up...
no retreat is also a solid option
RIP Hatterene who never saw the light of day 😂
22:25 was such a smooth bluff
Pat naming the Lurantis Fizz because of the pants and calling it "a bit of a clown" makes me smile
Video idea Shady, each person chooses whichever starter they want without the other person seeing, then the opponent gives them the Held Item and Ability which have to Synergize with each other. For example Magic Guard/Life Orb or Lagging Tail/Analytic, Choice Items are banned from this. The opponent might give you an item/ability combination that is BUSTED with your choice without knowing it or they might give you a combo that your Pokemon can’t utilize effectively. Chaos hopefully ensues! 😄
9:06 YOOO HELLUVA REFERENCE ON AN AMAZING POKEMON!!!
Your best video for a while! So nice to see you use different Pokémon’s!
Shady giving patters the shift gear chance is so fun and wholesome.... (nobody mention victory dance please)
As is tradition for me... When Shady brings up the great escapades with Venomoth, I must pause said video, and bring up the other one.
I see the Helluva Boss/Hazbin Hotel references Patterrz! Lol love it! Y'all are so much fun to watch 😂
Really good video tbh. Good battles, fun concept, shady gets thunder waved. All the hallmarks of a good video.
Cant wait for you guys to make the video choose a random pokemon but we lie about 3 of them
Hmm...your opponent chooses from the lies? That could be interesting.
I think a lie bank could be interesting. 6 total lies, you don't have to say in advance whether you use any that round. So you could lie about none of them or 3 of them, and the opponent doesn't know.
@@robertbeisert3315 yeah my comment was more of a joke how poketubers videos become harder and harder to actually Geass what pokemon it is I saw a video about 1 lie and you get to know the main color of the mon
@@indominusrex2859I saw one that said "know the first letter of the pokemon, but ones a lie"
Like... How you supposed to know?? These poketubers getting very creative lol
You know who the real MVP is in this video? Shady's pupper. Aussie sheppy puppy make all pain go away.
Shady thinking Luvdisc had T-Wave into him thinking Whimsicott had Taunt was crazy. Pat's poker face was great for that.
Hey shady, from the uk and love the content! You should do a format where both players have to pick the starter pokemon in the same position and you have to persuade each other to use the option you want. You can lie about one starter to try and throw off the other player.
This video was FIRE!
The concept of picking weak mons to make then better is SO GOOD!
I effin love Shady’s new best of 3 battles, was here right before the Then We Fights and now I’m forever here 🫡
FIZZAROLLI IS SUCH A GOOD NAME FOR LURANTIS
11:33 photo geyser
My OG favorite pokemon getting the win that 2nd game; feels good!
Heres a sub for it, for both of ya! Keep it up guys!
15:40 when pat started speaking gibberish I thought I was having a stroke for a moment 😂
When you were asking about a recharge move that Necrozma uses, you were thinking of prismatic laser
Favorite episode of the series so far!
Just finished the first battle, felt like shady was a hax God. This 👏 is 👏 content 👏
Hydro steam is rlly cool, I rlly wanna use walking wake with it for my sun team since water is one of my last blind spots on there, but I also get that if you don't run sun it's a dogwater move
I have a fun idea for a challenge. Could y’all please catch eight Pokemon of your choice that all have random abilities. Both of you also get to pick out the move sets after catching the Pokemon. Once you both acquire teams, read off each of your team members’ Pokedex entries. If the one being read to correctly identifies a Pokemon entry, he gets the option to force a trade without knowing the moveset of the identified Pokemon. The player who gets the identity correct is also able to pick out a custom ability for the traded Pokemon. Sabotaging some of your own team members is legal. Let’s say that the two leftover Pokemon with easy Pokédex entries are physical attackers like Machamp. You can rigg the entire moveset to be special or support moves. The Pokemon can’t be pseudo legends, legends, paradox, ultra beast, mythical or, starters to make it a bit more challenging.
love that master duel background music during 2nd round ❤❤
The Yugioh Master Duel music during the last battle went hard!
I absolutely love these videos! Thank you so much for the incredible content! ❤
Love the video as always. If you ever do something similar, you should do it based of the starter, not the evolution, so that you can get things like cosmog and kubfu. Might be a little less balanced though
8:59 is that a helluva boss reference I smell? Hell yeah, love it!
9:51 the fur on its knees is literally down when it is rapid strike and stands up when is single strike. Like so they can see and finally learn the difference
The thumbnail made me cry. I love Zangoose.
very glad to see a video like this, where less popular mons are getting picked!
Victory Dance once again becoming the lonely only child. Funny thing, no ones talking about COIL! Atk, Def, ACC, making Supercell Slam never miss. Perfect for Electivire, if shift gear wasn’t the favourite child
15:38 Patt channeling his inner Irishman
He made me think I was having a stroke..
Fizzaroli is a Helluva pokemon!
Patters Yoinking Shady twice on a Thursday afternoon is borderline TOS🤣🤣
Fun video idea. It will test your friendship, You and pat have to catch one Pokémon from each gen and if you both get the correct Pokémon from each gen you get to either have a custom ability or move.
Seeing my boy zangoose go off to end the video was super satisfying.
you could do one of these with Abilitys too at some point
So exited for that electivire
I love this editing style
I wonder if patterz just didn't think of using nuzzle instead of thunder wave on the whimsicott or if I'm missing something.
Lol, I write this then they mention it the next round.
I can see why my brother adores both of you
15:38 "Consider Subscribing down below" Is what Patterrz said. Yes, I do speak gibberish.
Love that weak Pokémon are getting so much love!! What if for a video idea you Role the Abilities First and then choose the Weakest Pokémon?
Patterrz missed the opportunity to transform dragon dance into the more dynamic victory dance.
16:25 the only time Meganium enjoyers can relish in know that Meganium is better, me included.
33:43 "Game of skill and talent" ha.
Ngl I watch the whole crew so sometimes things slip through the cracks…. Shady actually might get those subs on this vid 😂
Fizzarolli 🥹🩷 love the helluva boss reference
Shady’s “Listen” before absolutely bodying his opponent is a classic😂😂
When shady asked if pat was sure with dragon dance, i was saying victory dance. Both pure better stat moves
What a banging couple of battles and you managed to make some busted builds too and some really intelligent plays from both sides, both playing chess today. This is top tier then we fight content.