From a German perspective, Harry Kane is not just a good striker, he is a professional player, a Teamplayer. He is not coming here, and just play his style, he try to fit in and understand what the Team need to win. He is so humble and when u heard him after the game, he is more like a manager who understand the game really good. I can't find the English words to describe him accurately, hope u got my points :-) Love to watch your show 😍👌 and got better with my English language 👌
People always talks about Micah's good spirit (for a reason) but everytime he's talking about tactics or alnalyzing the game he's spot on. Top punditry ! Lovely podcast thanks to the three of you
I caught myself waiting for this episode, honestly, you guys are amazing, I can't believe how off-the-charts the chemistry is. Appreciate the work guys.
Question for the lads: The three of you had some great moments as players, but what were some of the best moments that you saw your teammates produce? The most stunning goals, assists, or skills that you had the best spot in the stadium to witness?
I just want yous lads to know how much I look forward to listening to this podcast every week. As a young chap In his early 20s I love the the 3 generations of football yous came from and the chemistry and balance of banter and analysis is absolutely outstanding. Such an honest insight into your opinions and stories from the past and present. Keep up the unbelievable work😁
Man U during the derby reminded me of the first few years after Sir Alex left, lost and out of place with little to no direction. Sad times for their fans yet again, if it gets much worse they’ll be close to understanding what a Sunderland fan feels like 😂
The foul on Rodri was a very soft penalty, however, Harry Maguire had John Stones in a chokehold which was a stonewall penalty but no one seems to have noticed it
Rashford is quality.the shot on the turn when Walker was closing in....very intelligent...but then he needs players of the same level to play with and at City he will definitely have that in abundance
John Stones - always rated him. When he was having the difficulty in always wanting to take the ball out of defence rather than hoofing it, and would get caught, it's clear that he has the structure around him to allow him to master that. But I would have loved to see if he would have coped with being in the old sweeper system?
It's not the first time Harry kane has scored from the half way line, he did pre-season 2019 against Juventus and the fact it was Chesney in goal made this even sweeter!!
On the audio for this upload, there are some knocking sounds on a very low register. You can hear it in a second or so, at 15:25, when Gary's saying something. Was it Micah's beard hitting his mic? 🤔 Had to keep pausing this video to see if someone was walking around my house at night. 😅
Well said, Alan. If it's rotten at the top, it inevitably affects the organisation all the way to the bottom. It's so true, and it applies not just to a football club. The reverse is true as well, the best example being the the current Spurs situation. They're doing well because of the changes at the top and it's rubbing off onto the boys on the pitch.
Regarding Micah's point about the squad (usually) being isolated from direct contact with the owners so it may not be as much of a factor for poor play makes sense. But I can see the dysfunction between owners and manager/staff affecting the squad by means of disgruntled staff inadvertently creating a negative atmosphere, since they face uncertainty and have legitimate gripes with the top of the club. The lack of direction and lack of confidence that creates then bleeds onto the pitch. Any player would struggle with spirit fighting for the club if all their support is (rightly) fed up with the top.
@fe567 💯 Haaland is quality. I just don't think there's much of a debate to be had. Kane better technically, Haalnd better physically. End of debate lol.
I know you couldn't do this podcast without mentioning Bellingham's two goals in El Clasico but up to his 68th min goal to equalise before scoring the winner in the 94th min ,he had a quiet game,Barcelona were the better team hitting the woodwork on two occasions. Surprised big Meeks didn't highlight the fact that Barcelona's goal was scored,his first in La Liga by İlkay Gündoğan,surely big Meeks can't have forgotten about him already 😀
Come on the Foxes you made me cry now talking about it Sir Gary Lineker of The Foxes winning it my god what a season that was - Vichai had a dream indeed 😅
I think Kane is better and then Haaland personally. You could put Kane in any team in the world and he’s scoring goals where I feel Haaland don’t get me wrong is unreal but he requires great service
RB Salzburg 27 games played 29 goals 7 assists Dortmund 89 games played 86 goals 26 assists Man City 68 games played 65 goals 12 assist Norway 28 games played 27 goals 3 assist He's been scoring for any team he's been at in the world.
My take on VAR is applicable generally with most specialised roles: The more precise and reliable the instruments of measurement become, the more competent the personnel interpreting the data need to be. The advancement in information is astronomic - Jumping from one instance of witnessing an incident, up to 3 or 4 viewing angles, over a dozen or two replays, at a frame-by-frame speed. That's a HUGE increase of data, and yet we are using the same referees. Just as we look to more technical, more athletic, more professional players to nurture a high level of competition, we ought to look to more knowledgeable, more insightful and more inquisitive referees for better decisions. The FA and its current refereeing roster might resent it, but the standard has improved and so must they.
We call Everton the worst run club in the country (and rightly so) however I'm seeing the exact same issues at Man Utd. No long term plan, different players don't suite the style of players around them as they were bought from different managers. Only real difference is we've worked on replacing our out dated stadium.
Not sure if it’s already been said but using VAR the same way the TMO is used in rugby would solve most of these issues. In the RWC final, the ref Wayne Barnes actually apologizes to the players for a call he made that was wrong and a correction was made. I appreciate football is a lot less stop start than rugby but having an official watching for fouls in crucial areas and radioing the red if something needs a second look while something like advantage is played could be the key. On a side note, I’m not an avid football fan, I don’t support a club etc really but I can sit and watch a good game and I appreciate a strong team… however I have to say the ultimate team at the moment is you three! I haven’t watched a single game this season yet, but I’ve watched about 18 TRIF podcasts this week! Keep up the top work chaps!
Madrid better sort out their striker situation and/or Vini should get back into top form, because you cannot expect a young midfielder without a history of getting many goals to keep popping up and saving y'all. Jude's a beast tho.
Big Meeks, the problem is the players are also coming in to bad training grounds, places that haven’t had any new blood/life in them. It probably feels like a graveyard. Think of a neighbourhood that was built 20-30 years ago, it might have been lively then but without any new infrastructure it dies down
I'm not here to say Pep isn't a great coach because he absolutely is, but is he truly a visionary? I'm sure Chris Wilder had his Sheffield United team with CBs making attacking runs consistently. Pep takes ideas and improves on them, and that is great coaching. But he doesn't necessarily come up with the ideas.
Loving your podcast guys. Talking about the Manchester derby I was surprised that the penalty was given to City at Old Trafford especially being such a soft penalty. I just like to say I am not a Manchester fan, unfortunately at the moment I am a Sheffield United fan. But I think a major problem with United is the midfield as in most games they do not know what to do when the opposition is attacking and then that causes the defence confusion as they are dragged out of position causing them to make mistakes. And every United defender must have no confidence going into any game. And as for Bruno he is great but he is not great when the team is defending and definitely no captain. Keep up the great podcasts
Question for another episode - would ANY of you accept an offer to work in the VAR room for a match and do you think ex-professionals should be assisting VAR at all matches in the future, could this resolve the persistent VAR problems every week?
Kane is better. Only 6 fewer goals in the PL last year than Haaland. Kane scored 30 goals from 23.06xG. Haaland scored 36 goals from 32.76xG. So Kane's finishing efficiency was much better. Also, noteworthy that Haaland scored 7 pens (7/7), Kane scored 5 (5/6), so Kane scored only four fewer from open play. And that doesn't take into account Kane's vastly inferior teammates and coach, and his far superior playmaking. It's close because Haaland is such a penalty box phenomenon but most of the evidence falls in Kane's favour.
Kane's more clinical, partly because of his good shots/headers, and partly because he plays at a slower pace which gives him more time. Haaland's pace and athleticism gets him quicker into situations and helps him produce more chances(often in tight, difficult positions). Haaland only striker in Europe's top leagues last season with 60+ g/a in all competitions. Mbappe, second, the only one with 50+. The best of the rest had 40+. I'm tired of the argument of Kane scoring 30 goals in a much worse team. He was 29 playing in a team that's been built around him for years. And they never were worse than 8th in the league. Haaland, on the other hand, was 22, new to the league and a team that most players struggle to gel into because the roles carry such detailed instructions. You could see him in many matches uncomfortable with parts of his game. In lots of matches(especially when KDB wasn't playing) his teammates didn't see him. Add to that, losing minutes equaling 7 matches because Pep rested him. Kane is a better all-round player and playmaker, but Haaland's still young and can improve. And for the time being, City don't seem to need more playmakers. It's close, but people focus to much on Haaland's weaknesses. Both his mom and grandma were champion athletes and I'm certain he would be candidate for Olympic medals if he had made that choice. Decathlon would fit him like a glove. The freakish physique combined with his natural goal scoring instinct and his footballing IQ gives him a ceiling and capacity that's clear of Kane. Just wait and see when he and City hits form this season.
@@torgeirgimmingsrud2439 I basically agree with nearly everything you've said, except for underplaying the advantage Haaland has in playing for City, compared to the Spurs of last season. It's true thay Haaland is a freak, whose size, pace and power allows him to get in more goalscoring positions than any other player. It's true that he's only 22, with the potential to improve, although I think his playmaking will always be limited. And I think it is fair to say that he has the potential to surpass Kane as a player if he continues to finetune his game. I do believe, though, that Kane was just about the better player for the reasons I outlined before. And the early evidence from this season suggests Kane is probably still the better player and will likely post better stats in the Bundesliga this year than Haaland ever did in his years at dortmund.
@@h98986 I agree, Haaland will never reach Kane's level as all-round player and playmaker, much of his limitation is his height, 6'5"(195,2 cm) vs Kane 6'2"(188) (Zlatan's the exception to the rule here). When it comes to Bundesliga stats, it's the old question of Lewandowski vs Haaland. What's the difference between being nr 9 in Bayern and Dortmund? In a league where the play is more open and few teams park the bus, it is probably a more significant advantage to be striker for the superior team than it is in EPL. Haaland for me is to be understood in the line of Gerd Müller and Thomas Müller. Average players with special competence (super powers) lifting them up among the all time greats ( I've seen official German lists with Gerd Müller as their greatest ever in front of Beckenbauer). Criticism of him in (social) media mostly miss the target and is unfair. His strength is in many ways what he lacks. He's different, even the City players often fail to see him and play to his strength, maybe because Pep's system has evolved more around a false 9 than a traditional number 9 like Haaland. Combined with the complexity of each role in Pep's system, which players often need time to grow into, this makes me think that the advantage of playing for City is a bit overplayed when it comes to Haaland's first season, except when KDB's fit and in form (feels like it was far too few minutes last season, though).
One more thing about overplaying the advantage of playing number 9 for City. His average of 1goal a game is the same as every season since he was 19, for Salzburg, Dortmund and Norway.
love this show. its so entertaining and love the stories from the dressing rooms and training grounds the fans never get to hear. how to submit Questions to the guys for the Questions episodes
Ten Hag looks lost and I don't think he knows how to fix the problem. He seems unable to motivate his players and this ship sinks slowly. Something has to be done. The biggest threat also is the sinking of the brand 'MU'. Rashford doesn't want to play, Bruno is too emotional and is losing his head... And we can talk about each indivual player. This team needs a leader in their manager and unfortunately Ten Hag is unable to do this...
Hi Gary you played againts Flamurtari in Albania in 87. I was in stadium on that game, what was you opinion of that flamurtari team , and Albania ? From a Nufc fan and Flamurtari
Cant speak for Gary but I spent 6 months in Albania and loved it. Great country and lovely people who get a bad rep at times. Recomend it if anyone is reading this. I went to watch KF tirana and the national team. Zabaletta is the assistant manager there now right?
I think ten hags substitutions are awful but why does everyone question maranta going off? He was getting run rings round, got a yellow card and was getting wound up, if he stayed on he 100% would’ve walked. Ironically they basically played with 10 when mount when on anyway
I've followed Man U for 45 years... I'm so sad to say this but I feel worse now than during the 70s and 80s and that's bad and when Alan says " looking at the teams" and who he would swap. He goes on to say Rashford but who would you take out for him??? I'm still not convinced on Marcus and until he does it for 3 or 4 seasons on the bounce then I wouldn't even say he would be a swap
Kane is scoring more fluently in Germany than he was in England meaning the style of football bayern plays suits him better than at spurs I don't think we've seen the best of haaland yet but when the style of play at city changes to a point haaland scores more fluently he will score alot more than 50 goals in a season it would be closer to 70 possibly higher again
@@imnottellingyoumyname3050I was just thinking that. Sit deep and play it over the top to vardy, or give it mahrez to create something. Not a criticism just my own observations. Brilliant achievement though.
The Escobar incident at USA ‘94 was made just that little bit worse because after the game Alan Hansen, who was a pundit at the time, said Escobar “should be shot” for making such a terrible mistake. Next day he’d been shot & killed.
From a German perspective, Harry Kane is not just a good striker, he is a professional player, a Teamplayer. He is not coming here, and just play his style, he try to fit in and understand what the Team need to win. He is so humble and when u heard him after the game, he is more like a manager who understand the game really good. I can't find the English words to describe him accurately, hope u got my points :-) Love to watch your show 😍👌 and got better with my English language 👌
Your English is great! A lot better than my German 😂.
Richtig gut gesagt! Du sollst gar keine Sorgen haben
Wilkomen
Well done to you!! As a South African with German ancestors your English is perfect friend
@@ByronthegoonerA fellow saffa in the comments and you're also a gooner fan? We should be friends.
Totally addicted to this podcast, I'm waiting for it just as much as the games now.
Jude’s celebration is like double Alan’s celebration 🙌🏻
People always talks about Micah's good spirit (for a reason) but everytime he's talking about tactics or alnalyzing the game he's spot on. Top punditry !
Lovely podcast thanks to the three of you
I caught myself waiting for this episode, honestly, you guys are amazing, I can't believe how off-the-charts the chemistry is. Appreciate the work guys.
Same , love the pod
Question for the lads:
The three of you had some great moments as players, but what were some of the best moments that you saw your teammates produce? The most stunning goals, assists, or skills that you had the best spot in the stadium to witness?
I’d say that Gazza would feature predominantly…his free kick in the semi final of the FA cup for Gary, and his goal vs Scotland at Euro 96 for Alan
@@GIBBO4182and I’m guessing Micah would say either aguero vs qpr or yaya in the fa cup final
You have to tweet them
there's so many good football related podcasts now but this is the best one 💙
The English bias for Rashford in the start is ridiculous Rashford this season is no way near good enough for city’s squad, he’s been awful
How profile is literally only big because his PR company organised a few tweets about hungry children on his behalf😂
I just want yous lads to know how much I look forward to listening to this podcast every week. As a young chap In his early 20s I love the the 3 generations of football yous came from and the chemistry and balance of banter and analysis is absolutely outstanding. Such an honest insight into your opinions and stories from the past and present. Keep up the unbelievable work😁
Micah showing up in his Sky Sports clothes shows he cares more about the podcast than his own comfort
Surely his clothes are comfortable whatever he's wearing? Who wears uncomfortable clothes.
@@NECinhoyeah was a bit of a weird comment
You weirdo he was suited and booted by skys makeup team too look good for the cameras.
Best football podcast around !!!
Pep is like Hovis never get stale he stays fresh with new ideas 😅
Hovis gets stale after 5 days, don’t make sense
Love Micah regurgitating what Carra said on Sunday 😂
Awesome product guys. Can you please add *timestamps* going forward?
Awesome podcast, always love Micah and his take and awesome for him being Arsenal fan!
Man U during the derby reminded me of the first few years after Sir Alex left, lost and out of place with little to no direction. Sad times for their fans yet again, if it gets much worse they’ll be close to understanding what a Sunderland fan feels like 😂
Love it! Keep it coming boy, man and grand dad!
Big michs is some boy he just brings so much laughter and joy where ever he is I bet when he had that fella by the throat he was laughing
The foul on Rodri was a very soft penalty, however, Harry Maguire had John Stones in a chokehold which was a stonewall penalty but no one seems to have noticed it
Potentially Marcus Rashford for the Man City team? He shouldn't even be starting for Man United. Lack of effort and passion is ridiculous
Alan is right on that, the Bayern team knew that goalkeeper spends a lot of time up the pitch so Kane knew to go for it
Absolutely bloody love this podcast I love you guys keep up the work❤
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I have been waiting for this all day!
Just came in from my evening stroll and this releases 🥲 gutted. It's the best audio to accompany a walk
go for another one lol
Was released as a podcast early in the morning on Spotify, Apple Podcasts etc. it’s the video that gets released later on in the day or the day after
Under the cosh new videos on Mondays , best footie pod going
Bit sus
Save it for the next one?
Rashford is quality.the shot on the turn when Walker was closing in....very intelligent...but then he needs players of the same level to play with and at City he will definitely have that in abundance
I hope Kane comes back to the PL eventually 😢
Manchester united will buy him when he's 38, 21 is coming😂
Laurie Cunningham. Orient legend!
John Stones - always rated him. When he was having the difficulty in always wanting to take the ball out of defence rather than hoofing it, and would get caught, it's clear that he has the structure around him to allow him to master that. But I would have loved to see if he would have coped with being in the old sweeper system?
Who on earth would you swap out for Rashford in that City side?
Grealish?
@@davidoconnor3201rashford might get a job in the canteen bringing Grealish his dinner. That's about it.
@@NECinhowho tf is radford even replacing in the canteen to begin with?
@@Ball619 Doris the tea lady is due to retire next Summer.
Love this podcast! The best one involving ex players there is.
Can we please get Mario Balotelli on? That would be special. Great show btw Lads.
It's not the first time Harry kane has scored from the half way line, he did pre-season 2019 against Juventus and the fact it was Chesney in goal made this even sweeter!!
Didn’t know the lad from corrie was a goalkeeper
On the audio for this upload, there are some knocking sounds on a very low register. You can hear it in a second or so, at 15:25, when Gary's saying something. Was it Micah's beard hitting his mic? 🤔
Had to keep pausing this video to see if someone was walking around my house at night. 😅
Well said, Alan. If it's rotten at the top, it inevitably affects the organisation all the way to the bottom. It's so true, and it applies not just to a football club.
The reverse is true as well, the best example being the the current Spurs situation. They're doing well because of the changes at the top and it's rubbing off onto the boys on the pitch.
37:57 Linekar: Alan have you ever scored from your own half?
Shearer: Never, never..never been in my own half 🙈
Gary Linekers intro are fantastic!!! 😅😅😅
Dropped perfectly in time for the cardio session!
Spot on about B. Fernandes from Micah
best pod in the history of football
Regarding Micah's point about the squad (usually) being isolated from direct contact with the owners so it may not be as much of a factor for poor play makes sense. But I can see the dysfunction between owners and manager/staff affecting the squad by means of disgruntled staff inadvertently creating a negative atmosphere, since they face uncertainty and have legitimate gripes with the top of the club. The lack of direction and lack of confidence that creates then bleeds onto the pitch. Any player would struggle with spirit fighting for the club if all their support is (rightly) fed up with the top.
Well done, Big Meeks, for repping the Poppy. For a great cause, run by a great charity (The Royal British Legion), doing great work.
The Haaland Kane debate is a bit flat. Kane is better in pretty much every attribute that's not physical.
For real. But speed and physical does have a huge impact.
@fe567 💯 Haaland is quality. I just don't think there's much of a debate to be had. Kane better technically, Haalnd better physically. End of debate lol.
I know you couldn't do this podcast without mentioning Bellingham's two goals in El Clasico but up to his 68th min goal to equalise before scoring the winner in the 94th min ,he had a quiet game,Barcelona were the better team hitting the woodwork on two occasions.
Surprised big Meeks didn't highlight the fact that Barcelona's goal was scored,his first in La Liga by İlkay Gündoğan,surely big Meeks can't have forgotten about him already 😀
For a single season, Harry Kane without any doubt
This is the best football podcast in the world
Could Haaland do what Kane did in the Spurs sides he played in?
Already my favourite show this . Think Wrighty and Keano would be a good shout to add to the roster
Great podcast. Micah - when you work in a toxic company you'll see how hard it is to be motivated at the office.
His time at villa was toxic
Top quality podcast
Can’t wait for the next one 😊
Come on the Foxes you made me cry now talking about it Sir Gary Lineker of The Foxes winning it my god what a season that was - Vichai had a dream indeed 😅
You guys need to add time stamps
Love Alan saying cheers after he says goodbye from me and I don’t know why 😂 Found myself doing it with him 🤷🏻♂️
Discussion on title/top four contenders and Liverpool aren’t even mentioned. I welcome it to be fair, I enjoy that we’re flying under the radar a bit
I think Kane is better and then Haaland personally. You could put Kane in any team in the world and he’s scoring goals where I feel Haaland don’t get me wrong is unreal but he requires great service
RB Salzburg 27 games played 29 goals 7 assists
Dortmund 89 games played 86 goals 26 assists
Man City 68 games played 65 goals 12 assist
Norway 28 games played 27 goals 3 assist
He's been scoring for any team he's been at in the world.
So since joining Salzburg 1. Jan 2019 he's played 212 games, scored 207 goals and assisted 48 goals. He's 23...
Rashford is so overrated it’s untrue. English bias shining through for sure.
Gary Linekar "well i'm a bit of a foodie"
Also Gary Linekar "yeah I decided to learn to cook about 7, 8 years ago"
Quite enjoy the Bellingham/England Euros chances segment every week 😂
My take on VAR is applicable generally with most specialised roles: The more precise and reliable the instruments of measurement become, the more competent the personnel interpreting the data need to be.
The advancement in information is astronomic - Jumping from one instance of witnessing an incident, up to 3 or 4 viewing angles, over a dozen or two replays, at a frame-by-frame speed. That's a HUGE increase of data, and yet we are using the same referees. Just as we look to more technical, more athletic, more professional players to nurture a high level of competition, we ought to look to more knowledgeable, more insightful and more inquisitive referees for better decisions.
The FA and its current refereeing roster might resent it, but the standard has improved and so must they.
We call Everton the worst run club in the country (and rightly so) however I'm seeing the exact same issues at Man Utd. No long term plan, different players don't suite the style of players around them as they were bought from different managers. Only real difference is we've worked on replacing our out dated stadium.
Hate having to agree 😢
Alan is spot on about the work rate of Bruno. I’ve watched multiple games this season where he loses his head and seems to just give up mid game.
Which the current gap will the current top 5 be the top 5 (not in current order)
I’m happy the time with var were spoken about
I was wondering if you could interview Mark Goldbridge, he presents That's Football and The United Stand. Top guy and massive United fan. ⚽🤔
Bellingham is easily walking to be the best in the world
Not sure if it’s already been said but using VAR the same way the TMO is used in rugby would solve most of these issues. In the RWC final, the ref Wayne Barnes actually apologizes to the players for a call he made that was wrong and a correction was made. I appreciate football is a lot less stop start than rugby but having an official watching for fouls in crucial areas and radioing the red if something needs a second look while something like advantage is played could be the key.
On a side note, I’m not an avid football fan, I don’t support a club etc really but I can sit and watch a good game and I appreciate a strong team… however I have to say the ultimate team at the moment is you three! I haven’t watched a single game this season yet, but I’ve watched about 18 TRIF podcasts this week! Keep up the top work chaps!
Wilson Pelasious also had a family members kidnapped he was never the same player after.
Madrid better sort out their striker situation and/or Vini should get back into top form, because you cannot expect a young midfielder without a history of getting many goals to keep popping up and saving y'all.
Jude's a beast tho.
Big Meeks, the problem is the players are also coming in to bad training grounds, places that haven’t had any new blood/life in them. It probably feels like a graveyard.
Think of a neighbourhood that was built 20-30 years ago, it might have been lively then but without any new infrastructure it dies down
I'm not here to say Pep isn't a great coach because he absolutely is, but is he truly a visionary? I'm sure Chris Wilder had his Sheffield United team with CBs making attacking runs consistently. Pep takes ideas and improves on them, and that is great coaching. But he doesn't necessarily come up with the ideas.
Haaland's a modern day Gerd Muller. Obviously more powerfully built but scores and poaches mainly from inside the box.
Good podcast! The VAR has become laughable and it’s every week now… sick of it all, so many chances and they are still getting it wrong 😑
Loving your podcast guys. Talking about the Manchester derby I was surprised that the penalty was given to City at Old Trafford especially being such a soft penalty.
I just like to say I am not a Manchester fan, unfortunately at the moment I am a Sheffield United fan. But I think a major problem with United is the midfield as in most games they do not know what to do when the opposition is attacking and then that causes the defence confusion as they are dragged out of position causing them to make mistakes. And every United defender must have no confidence going into any game. And as for Bruno he is great but he is not great when the team is defending and definitely no captain.
Keep up the great podcasts
I know Gary may be a little bias, but since he mentioned the best team sporting achievement being Leicester. Does that surpass the Lisbon Lions?
Question for another episode - would ANY of you accept an offer to work in the VAR room for a match and do you think ex-professionals should be assisting VAR at all matches in the future, could this resolve the persistent VAR problems every week?
Watch episode 6 with Howard Webb
Gary makes me touch my nose
The best way to decide is u av a cup final tomorrow which one do u pick which one do u bench
Great watch
Kane is better. Only 6 fewer goals in the PL last year than Haaland.
Kane scored 30 goals from 23.06xG.
Haaland scored 36 goals from 32.76xG.
So Kane's finishing efficiency was much better. Also, noteworthy that Haaland scored 7 pens (7/7), Kane scored 5 (5/6), so Kane scored only four fewer from open play.
And that doesn't take into account Kane's vastly inferior teammates and coach, and his far superior playmaking.
It's close because Haaland is such a penalty box phenomenon but most of the evidence falls in Kane's favour.
Kane's more clinical, partly because of
his good shots/headers, and partly because he plays at a slower pace which gives him more time.
Haaland's pace and athleticism gets him quicker into situations and helps him produce more chances(often in tight, difficult positions).
Haaland only striker in Europe's top leagues last season with 60+ g/a in all competitions. Mbappe, second, the only one with 50+. The best of the rest had 40+.
I'm tired of the argument of Kane scoring 30 goals in a much worse team. He was 29 playing in a team that's been built around him for years. And they never were worse than 8th in the league.
Haaland, on the other hand, was 22, new to the league and a team that most players struggle to gel into because the roles carry such detailed instructions. You could see him in many matches uncomfortable with parts of his game.
In lots of matches(especially when KDB wasn't playing) his teammates didn't see him. Add to that, losing minutes equaling 7 matches because Pep rested him.
Kane is a better all-round player and playmaker, but Haaland's still young and can improve. And for the time being, City don't seem to need more playmakers.
It's close, but people focus to much on Haaland's weaknesses. Both his mom and grandma were champion athletes
and I'm certain he would be candidate for Olympic medals if he had made that choice. Decathlon would fit him like a glove.
The freakish physique combined with his natural goal scoring instinct and his footballing IQ gives him a ceiling and capacity that's clear of Kane.
Just wait and see when he and City hits form this season.
@@torgeirgimmingsrud2439 I basically agree with nearly everything you've said, except for underplaying the advantage Haaland has in playing for City, compared to the Spurs of last season.
It's true thay Haaland is a freak, whose size, pace and power allows him to get in more goalscoring positions than any other player.
It's true that he's only 22, with the potential to improve, although I think his playmaking will always be limited.
And I think it is fair to say that he has the potential to surpass Kane as a player if he continues to finetune his game.
I do believe, though, that Kane was just about the better player for the reasons I outlined before. And the early evidence from this season suggests Kane is probably still the better player and will likely post better stats in the Bundesliga this year than Haaland ever did in his years at dortmund.
@@h98986 I agree, Haaland will never reach Kane's level as all-round player and playmaker, much of his limitation is his height, 6'5"(195,2 cm) vs Kane 6'2"(188)
(Zlatan's the exception to the rule here).
When it comes to Bundesliga stats, it's the old question of Lewandowski vs Haaland.
What's the difference between being nr 9 in Bayern and Dortmund? In a league where the play is more open and few teams park the bus, it is probably a more significant advantage to be striker for the superior team than it is in EPL.
Haaland for me is to be understood in the line of Gerd Müller and Thomas Müller. Average players with special competence (super powers) lifting them up among the all time greats ( I've seen official German lists with Gerd Müller as their greatest ever in front of Beckenbauer).
Criticism of him in (social) media mostly miss the target and is unfair. His strength is in many ways what he lacks. He's different, even the City players often fail to see him and play to his strength, maybe because Pep's system has evolved more around a false 9 than a traditional number 9 like Haaland.
Combined with the complexity of each role in Pep's system, which players often need time to grow into, this makes me think that the advantage of playing for City is a bit overplayed when it comes to Haaland's first season, except when KDB's fit and in form (feels like it was far too few minutes last season, though).
One more thing about overplaying the advantage of playing number 9 for City.
His average of 1goal a game is the same as every season since he was 19, for Salzburg, Dortmund and Norway.
I certainly wish for the best result on the kidnapping but, On 30:00 Gary mentions it but what country does he say its happening in ??
love this show. its so entertaining and love the stories from the dressing rooms and training grounds the fans never get to hear. how to submit Questions to the guys for the Questions episodes
To be pedantic, Gary is totally wrong. The clocks officially go back at 2am Sunday morning not Saturday night… 😎
John Stones is an elite footballer
Early and just in time for the walk 🙌🙌
So is Gary the only English player to score for Barca in an El Clasico? Kudos 👍
You will struggle to list English footballers who have played for Barca, let alone score.
Fair point lol 😂
Ten Hag looks lost and I don't think he knows how to fix the problem. He seems unable to motivate his players and this ship sinks slowly. Something has to be done. The biggest threat also is the sinking of the brand 'MU'. Rashford doesn't want to play, Bruno is too emotional and is losing his head... And we can talk about each indivual player. This team needs a leader in their manager and unfortunately Ten Hag is unable to do this...
Rashford shouldn’t even be in the United XI at the moment.
That's waffle they're all poor
Hi Gary you played againts Flamurtari in Albania in 87. I was in stadium on that game, what was you opinion of that flamurtari team , and Albania ? From a Nufc fan and Flamurtari
Cant speak for Gary but I spent 6 months in Albania and loved it. Great country and lovely people who get a bad rep at times. Recomend it if anyone is reading this.
I went to watch KF tirana and the national team.
Zabaletta is the assistant manager there now right?
I think ten hags substitutions are awful but why does everyone question maranta going off? He was getting run rings round, got a yellow card and was getting wound up, if he stayed on he 100% would’ve walked. Ironically they basically played with 10 when mount when on anyway
Mu failing to make any block in the mid. Casemiro was big missed
I've followed Man U for 45 years... I'm so sad to say this but I feel worse now than during the 70s and 80s and that's bad and when Alan says " looking at the teams" and who he would swap. He goes on to say Rashford but who would you take out for him??? I'm still not convinced on Marcus and until he does it for 3 or 4 seasons on the bounce then I wouldn't even say he would be a swap
Not even Rashford is in the starting 11. Maybe a squad player but he’s not good enough to play for Man City
Rashford can hand out the packed lunches to everyone on the team bus. That's as close to the city team he can hope for.
talking bout reffing mistakes this passed weekend all these teams got soft pks but chelsea get hoed and dont get our soft pk 😪
Offer Harry his very own Aaron Rogers Tuesday book club. He'll understand.
Awesome podcast
I love you guys, so much content too we're spoilt
Kane is scoring more fluently in Germany than he was in England meaning the style of football bayern plays suits him better than at spurs
I don't think we've seen the best of haaland yet but when the style of play at city changes to a point haaland scores more fluently he will score alot more than 50 goals in a season it would be closer to 70 possibly higher again
Hey guys, great podcast, small question for Micah to ask Gary and Alan "How good was Ginola"?
We all know he was good
Ginola is as good as Raheem Sterling but Ginola is not a world beater like Messi, Cristiano, Ronaldinho or Zidane.
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Not only did Leicester win the league they played one of the best football that the epl has seen in a long time.
That's just not true. They were a counter attacking team. Crazy to suggest that was "some of the best football" the premier League has seen.
@@imnottellingyoumyname3050I was just thinking that. Sit deep and play it over the top to vardy, or give it mahrez to create something.
Not a criticism just my own observations.
Brilliant achievement though.
The Escobar incident at USA ‘94 was made just that little bit worse because after the game Alan Hansen, who was a pundit at the time, said Escobar “should be shot” for making such a terrible mistake.
Next day he’d been shot & killed.