Always loved this channel. In regads to millennials, I would recommend to you guys to read manga bokurano ch 30 until 32. I am not facist, but the core of "might is right" explain why older gen hates current gen. They paid their due with 2 world wars and a cold war. Boomers gen get "might is right" core, survival explains behavorial conduct. Heinlein's book Starshiptroppers also has same core message. Again, I am not facist... but my opinion about hatred on millenials is as stated above. Dont shoot me. What do you think? To support my opinion, remember movie "all about eve" and series "house of cards".
For someone with anxiety your trope videos are poison. My TH-cam homepage is bombarded with your videos and I remove them because just the word "trope" gives me anxiety at this point (that and "the take").
What happened to the other woman that used to do the videos? I think she did a much better job, more in depth, had more perspective and didn't narrate with an undercurrent of resentment.
Not just wanting more but not putting up with bullshit. Of course I want a promotion when I've been held back in my career for so long and the low level job doesn't even have health insurance.
You millenials are lazy for being unemployed in a competitive jobless environment. You're all so depressed with your made up illnesses in this error of terror attacks, war and mass shootings. You all need to get up and do something with yourselves! No not creatively!
@@sheadoherty7434 NO BOOMERS ARE LAZY BOOMERS ARE DESTROYING THE PLANET BOOMERS GET MORE OUT OF TAXES THEN THEY EVER PUT IN. BOOMERS WALKED ACROSS THE BRIDGE OF OPPORTUNITY BUILT BY THE GREATEST GENERATION AND THEN PROCEEDED TO BURN IT ONCE ON THE OTHER SIDE!
"They only care about frivolous things. When I was a boy, we were taught to be respectful"- Hesiod of ancient Greece. Old people have been complaining about young people since the beginning of time. Older generations complained about hippies (boomers) and now they're doing the same thing to younger people. It's the circle of hate.
@@tazhienunurbusinezz1703 I'm not sure that tribalism has ever served humanity well. At least not it's offshoots of scapegoating people with less power and status--a thing that has been around for all of human history, as we seem to have established in this thread. Because the younger generation is going to have less status than the older generation until the older generation ends up in nursing homes.
We're not even all that young anymore. The youngest among us is 24, still pretty young, but the oldest is almost 40. We just want to be left alone in our misery instead of being everyone's scapegoat.
"This is America, kiddo, you can be whatever you want to be, work hard, do your best." *20 years later. "What makes you think you deserve anything you entitled shit! Make my cheeseburger and like it!"
To be fair about participation trophies, it's not like we asked the adults to give them to us lol. You can't Pavlov a dog and blame the dog for drooling
@@PhoenixRising87 I never took those things seriously even as a kid. To me, they were weren't awards but something that said, "you didn't win anything, so here" or "this is something to say you were there"
I don't feel like I know anyone who ever took these seriously, they usually ended up in the trash. If anything I feel like it made it hard to distinguish recognition for a real accomplishment and patronizing recognition. Edit for grammar
I am being humble when I am telling you that I am the most powerful strongest coolest smartest most famous greatest funniest TH-camr of all time! That's the reason I have multiple girlfriends and I show them off on my ch*nnel all the time! Bye bye 00
It's kind of funny because while you're in the youngest generation, you'll agree with this and when you're older, you still might but you'll also have met plenty of younger people that make you think "We were definitely not this bad" when you clearly were, lol. At least that's what has happened to me.
Lol please make sure to quote the right person who said this, I believe it was George Oswell?? Sometjing like that, but dont make it seem like u came up with it xd
@@arip172 Good Point, I do think however that has much more to do with the accumulation of knowledge then it has with intelligence. The average IQ score within the test system has actually begun to drop, which is tragic because the average is exactly what the test is evaluated off of, meaning that IQ test were much harder then they are now, but do not result in higher scores. Which probably has to do with media and consumerism - the dopamine responses change brain structure.
Don't fall for the Millennials vs Gen Z thing people. It's the new bait. We need to stand strong. The world is changing, it was not made for either of us.
No one should fall for the millennials vs gen z thing, they shouldn't fall for the thing with gen x either. That allows geriatric oligarchs to seize more power. Most of what is owned in the U.S. now is by people over 70 years old.
"You gave us participation trophies then made fun of us for having them," -Damien Haas. Every problem that older generations blames millenials and Gen z for was started by them.
I got in an argument with my dad once about milenials and Gen Z. He said "you got so many participation trophies, you don't know how to loose" and I said "And whose fault is that?! You gave us those trophies and the phones, and the get out of jail free card and now you complain?? You don't get to complain about something you created..." the fight ended there.
When Boomers were in their 20s, they could pay off their student debt, buy a home, and have a family off a college degree and a minimum wage job. We Millennials struggle to do even a fraction of all that without being screwed. We aren’t asking for some luxurious life full of mansions or diamonds. We just want a chance to live.
Ignore what boomers tell you and just find a way to make a living as you do what gives you fulfillment. Once the boomers are too old to keep running society, we'll finally have a chance to correct course.
the whole “entitle and feel like their owed success” is funny because our parents literally didn’t go to college and got better salaries and promotions. sorry you raised us to expect what you got but then we had ✨ no equivalent opportunities ✨ after getting that college piece of paper
As an elder millennial (pushing 40) it's amazing how GenZ aged actors are still pushing all the millennial tropes. A lot of the complaining I hear is that we don't work hard enough (I usually heard this one when I was working 3 jobs so I could go back to school to get a job that wouldn't require additional jobs) and that we're stupid for not "just buying a house" (I hear that one from boomers while sitting in a neighborhood where houses cost a minimum of 3mil). There are more opportunities, but they have become so much harder to take advantage of. I never expected to just walk into an amazing job, but even low level stuff was blocked by people at the top who wouldn't retire. I try not to inhabit the bitter barn as I watch my over educated and underemployed friends struggle to make rent in a housing market that wants to make them homeless while our parents talk about how stupid and entitled we are.
AMEN I am a younger millennial (Almost gen Z) but I agree, I even saw this very interseting break down of all the generations and eventhough people think we are the most narcissistic generation its actually baby boomers, and we millenials and all our problems are simply the by product of decades of selfish me first thinking, masked under a self invented rethoric about how they worked themselfs up from nothing when in fact they were the generation with the most easy excess to oppertunity, we got better education but it stopped there, millenials were often raised within a construct that told them that they had to be amazing at everything and that being avarage isn't an option, They hate to admit this, but being avarage was the norm for them, it was expected to finish college get a job, and get married and have childeren. But not the have this highly succesful carreer to stand out or be amazing no, just finish school get a job, start your adult life, the end. Back then if you had a degree a job was almost garenteed, however today thats not the case you almost have to be perfect to get a normal, basic job, it crazy how many years of experiance they want people to have eventhough, its a starter position and its targeted towards people that just finished colleg, like the amount of internships and cv building things we have to do now just simply didn't exist back then. So that also explains why so many millennials try to start busnisses with out a good or proper plan, ( It's out this deep need of approval, to show others we aren't avarage that we haven't failed at life we are somebody) because got forbid, we are medicore nothing is wrong with medicore but we have been fed this rethoric for so long by the most medicore generation of them all... This is why so many millennials get burned out, because yeah we, (myself included) are expected to work multiple jobs, while still getting straight A's and landing this amazing job all before the age of 25. In fact we are a extremely hard working generation in a world that has never been this complicated but we get far to little praise we are so much more than the sillyness of social media, we are so much more than avocado toast. All the focus is put on the dumb things our generations does when in fact every generation does silly and superficial things in there youth ... Yes social media is also to blame for that in a big part but again this is an evil we didn't create nor fully understood at the time I wonder what our childeren will be like... I feel every generation fucks up the next due to there own trauma's boomers are narcissistic because major traumatic world events all happend in there early to late childhood, they often had it rough in many ways we did have it easy. (Ofcourse this is on a generalized level but you get it ) Ps: don't mind my spelling since english isn't my first language
Then youre an exception to the rule, because millennials typically are lazy. Definitely not overeducated since schools are terrible now and on top of that, millennials typically chose terrible, lazy, highly competitive career paths.
@@-8h- well THATs definitely not true. I’m on the fence between millennial and genz, so any peers that range from a little to a good bit older are millennials. And nearly all of them work their damn asses off. If they seem like they are not, it’s always because of mental and physical health problems, or just straight up exhaustion that’s caused them to give up.
The millennial condition that is explored here is not universal- it reflects the american millennial experience. Participation trophies? Those don’t exist in the rest of the world, the American dream still perpetuates this idea that you can achieve anything simply because you want it. The rest of the world is a lot more cynical
I just queried this same thing... I'm a 31 yo working class British female and many of the comments here didn't apply to me. Some of the tropes vaguely applied to millennials I know. I work with 2 gen x's and find my interests of pop culture and reminiscing about the past to be more similar to them than the 26 yo who also a millennial. 🤷🏻♀️
The millennial trope is based off of people like Lena Dunham who grew up with silver spoons in their mouths and are narcissistic enough to project their experience on an entire generation
It could also be said that just as the boomers ignored the wisdom of their war generation parents, so too did they ignore the changing world their millennial children were born into, and thus had no wisdom of their own to offer. It seems that the way you treat your parents is the way you'll treat your children.
When I was a teen in the 90s in the UK, free university education grants were scrapped by a government full of boomer politicians who had ironically benefitted most from them in the 60s and 70s.
As a Millennial, the most annoying thing about the Millennial hate is the the fact that we're lumped all together and easily written off as if all of us do what people see others in our demographic frequently do. Baby Boomers also love to act like they aren't responsible for how Millennials are and didn't contribute to some of the traits they complain about.
Basically, you lumped all the Baby Boomers together and easily written them off as if all of them do what people see others in their demographic frequently do.
@@vins1979 Did every single Boomer and Gen X'er collectively join together to incessantly complain about Millennials? No. But the contempt for that generation originated with you guys and you may want to consider contextualizing your judgments by acknowledging the fantastical life narrative you sold to them as children and the shitty world you subsequently dumped on them.
@@nitewarden "with you guys": oh, I see that you are presupposing I belong to one generation rather than some other one. Very nice. FYI: I didn't sell any fantastical narrative to anyone. Do you even know how old I am? LOL!
The reason why gen-z and millennials have this dynamic is because while the generation before tends to parent the generation after, thats not what happened with these two. Millennial are more likely to be a gen-zer's sibling than they are to be a parent. Gen X gave birth to Millennial and Gen Z so I like to think of it as more of a sibling relationship. It makes more sense that way.
Gen X and Boomers gave birth to millennials. My mom barely missed the Boomer cut off and I am one of the younger millennials (25) when she was pushing 30. I think millennials have become parents to Gen Z in the manner that we don't gaslight the hell out of them and we take them seriously when Gen Z is being serious. Boomers and Gen X kinda fall into the idea of a nuclear family's parents but since Millennials were raised with varied family dynamics rather than the two parent households of the past, we have more emotional connectivity to Gen Z. No more of the standoffish parent with strict roles and more of the "you can rely on me but you also see I am a person too" kind of parent.
My parents are both on the older side of boomers. Older millennials have almost exclusively boomer parents while younger millennials have a mixture of boomer and gen x.
Definitely feels that way to me. Most of my siblings are millenials, except for the youngest who is gen Z. Definitely feels like a sibling relationship.
@@kraziiXIII millennial definitely play more of an older sibling role than a parent. With the cool/laidback/mentor attitude it definitely reflects the "cool older sibling" or maybe "cool aunt" stereotype than it does a parent. Mostly because millennials lack the formality to take on a parent role but are great for other types of older figure that gen-z can go to when in need
@@summerpratt6288 idk it may be because I literally raised my 16 year old Gen Z brother but every millennial I know has acted like a parent to their Gen Z siblings; just a more emotionally available one. I'm biased I guess.
The problem is “Millennial” and “spoiled rich kid” are conflated...I’m middle class and Black...so a lot of these tropes wouldn’t be true for me if I tried!
“Selfish, always thinks they’re right, and believes they deserve everything” yeah people claim that’s millennials but ask anyone who works retail and customer service, majority of those people that feel that way are boomers.
@@theguybehindyou4762 I find, in general, anyone accusing other groups of doing or wanting odious things, are projecting 99% of the time. I typed up a ton of examples but it just bloated my comment to no real end so I deleted them lol. But once you see it it's hard to unsee it, especially in political discourse.
As a poor millennial, all my life, I find it an incredible slap in the face being called “entitled”. Also we aren’t saying we want to be well off, we want to be able to survive, if someone has this idea that asking for the minimum is some how asking for the maximum, you’re the problem.
@@baubau-t9u Excuse me, hereby I present you...the corona crisis. Better. Faster. Stronger. than your previous Modell from 2009. Oh and it comes with more political instability, an unknown length of quarantine and possible illness/death (might not by the illness itself but from domestic violence, depression etc.) BUT WAIT...There is a bonus, if you are part of a minority. You get to raise you chances of contracting the disease! Not only that but you will also get to protest, treated more unfairly than ever and get used as a scapegoat! And all this just for the little costs of a few hundred thousands deaths (still collecting) and a few millions destroyed livelihoods.
As a poor, disabled millenial, who have always gave much more than recieved....Being a millenials is just another harmful stereotype that people are desperately trying to squeeze me into in addition to other stereotypes.
Right? The Boomers love to bitch about how the Millenials weren't taught sewing and cooking in High School like they were. Like hello the boomers were the teachers
Although there are still members of Gen Z that make fun of millennials, I think most of us at this point have the attitude that they're just depressed. Personally, I grew up seeing millennials made fun of, because my parents are almost old enough to be boomers. It's kind of a dead meme at this point. Now they're just the ones we see as depressed and stressed, with a lot of crushed dreams. From what I can tell, they're part of the reason Gen Z is so notoriously cynical about the future.
I'm not sure if we really are more likely to be depressed... I always thought we were just the first generation to kind of openly talk about it/mental health. but maybe you're right.
I'm a 31 millenial and i have 2 gen Z siblings and i always say that im proud of gen Z cuz just like millenials they care for the environment, more equality, and lots of social values and not only money making, but Gen Z have something millenials don't have, they grew up seeing that this lie of trying to meet your parents expectations and going to college, getting degrees and getting normal jobs wont give them the same opportunities for basic stuff like having enough money to pay bills, buy food and save for retirement. Gen Z are learning very yearly that the old ways dont work anymore and they have enough time to discover other ways to build their lives and not waste all their lives with formal education without economic return like millenials did. In my opinion most of millenials didnt choose fancy careers at all, most of us just choose the same career of our parents or traditional careers like teacher, dentist, lawyer. The truth is that jobs in general pay less and less each generation but require much more education. If I knew I would pay so much to study in a university and make so little money I would have saved the university money and bought a house haha. Gen Z are living in a world that the economic truth is not so disguised by status ideals so they will be much more clever with their future.
Ironically they’re making fun of stereotypes that boomers created because they’re bullies. Every millenial I know ya be a is pretty emotionally intelligent even if they are depressed. So if anything we normalized talking openly about mental illness.
@@obinnaiwudike7644 Yeah, that's become apparent. But the lie that boomers told us was that we could have everything they did and then some if we worked harder than they had. So we did. We buckled down. We went to school, were a lot more responsible than boomers in their youth (just read a history of what they were like) only to get shit on as soon as we entered the job market and lectured in the bargain.
Yes and then they tell us we want everything so fast yet they were able to have “it all” in their late 20s. And if we don’t have it that fast it is because we ‘don’t work hard enough’ and ‘not trying enough’ and have to be ‘patient’. But till when?
Yes if you’re a lawyer or a doctor or a business from Harvard you have the best future in the world and good money that’s a fact but if you’re just doing odds job life becomes hard 9 to5
From a Gen Z'er, I'd like to thank the Millenials for all their work in civil rights, mental health advocacy, and many other important issues. You were dealt a bad hand yet you kept going. My hand isn't great either but it comforts me that the Millenials survived and made the world a bit better. I just hope that Gen Z and Millenials can team up and rise up against the Boomers in power who put us in this mess.
Yes! Thats the truth both generations were shat on and if we work together we can make some good stuff happen! Lets keep up the intergenerational solidarity!👏👏
as someone who's exactly in between both generations that was what I was thinking too! Let us defy those generational conflicts and work as a team - so maybe our future together and that of our children will be a bit brighter/easier.
I'm a millennial and millennials were NOT dealt a bad hand, we're just extremely talented at convincing others so. Take for example the cost of housing, one of millennials' favorite complaints. Its true housing is more expensive today than in 1970, relative to salary, but most people also lived in generally smaller homes with fewer bedrooms/bathrooms and no garage. Some homes didn't even have air conditioning. There are also 130 million more people in the US today, but the same amount of land as in 1970. Most millennials just hear they're in a worse shape compared to previous generations, and they want to believe it so they amplify it over social media. Reality is the statistics are almost always twisted into their favor.
Honestly, generationally it feels so rough to be roasted by Gen Z. It's like duuuuude, can't we get a break? For once? Like literally society has been collapsing around us at every point in our life; it would mess you up too if there was no one before you acknowledging how fucked up everything is! At least Gen Z doesn't get Millennials telling them that there problems aren't serious and will go away. I think that our two generations will work better together once the current youngest generation gets older. Also I think we care more about humanity as a whole than previous generations so we aren't throw each other under the bus of time and climate change.
In my experience, Gez Z and Millennials have way more solidarity than the video implies. Other people in this comment section said that media depictions of Gen Z kids are mostly projections of Gen-Xers still trying to stick it to the youths of today, and that seems reasonable to me.
RIGHT I thought they were on our side! lolol I mean...I can understand to some extent them just thinking we're old and uncool, but I didn't think they would join in on the Millennial-bashing. What a betrayal.
As someone from Gen Z, I’ll remind you that we have never lived in a world before 9/11 and so straight out we have always lived in a world of fear and mistrust that you guys were thrust into. While you all had to experience it firsthand on the news and shit, we only came into existence around it and do not know any different. All the traumatic stuff you guys had in your adolescence, teen and college years we had in our middle childhoods and we are experiencing our second recession in ten years fewer than you guys. The reason that some Gen Z dislike millennials is because of the constant whinging. And the thing is, the people around my age who don’t dislike millennials only tolerate them
@@liapalmer381 To be fair, I'm a lower millennial so I feel very similarly to you about living in a world consumed by fear (altho for me it happened when i was in elementary school). Gen Z disillusionment is understandable (from seeing how things are turning out without them happening in adulthood yet), as is Millennial whining (from constantly being blindsided by tragedies and getting the rug ripped out under from you every time you stand up). It's all bitterness and frustration expressed in different forms acted differently given their circumstances makes sense. I'm just saying it's sad (the Gen Z dislike for Millennials) given that we've all been screwed over by the past generations. At least we (collectively Gen Z + Millennials) are trying to do something about it to prevent it from happening again now and in the future. Anyways I'm clearly sensitive about all of this but I'm trying not to take it to heart, because it does make me sad to think that the younger folks I feel in solidarity with only tolerate people in my gen. However someone earlier pointed out that media portrayals of it are written by Gen Xers projecting their gripes with Millennials, so at least that much is reassuring.
I'm not even a Millennial, I'm a Gen Zer, but it's so stupid how we continue to recycle these obsolete stereotypes about generations like we've done since the stone age. The previous generation always thinks the one that's after it is worse, entitled, weak in some way and that they had it hard, and they're the ones in the right, but that's just not true. While your generation will affect your personality, it doesn't mean that all people in a generation are the same - rather that they've lived through the same historical events at a certain age. And let's be honest, Millennials are not lucky. Sure, Millennials and Gen Z get the internet, but we also get unsupervised internet access leading to predators and misinformation and traumatic experiences, young adult Millennials and Gen Z kids lived through the economical crisis just a few years ago and are living through another one now, no matter how much education and how many degrees we have it's not enough, our planet is dying and most of us don't fit into society's rigid structure anymore. I thought the whole point was to leave the world a better place than when you came into it, not shit on your kids for not being miserable (even though we are.)
@@oooh19 That's pretty much where my bad opinions about gen Z end. I don't get the fashions, I miss some of the trends, but fuck it: let people like what they like, it's not like it negatively impacts my life. Overall I don't have any *real* complaints about Z. They seem like great people who are just as into trying to un-fuck the planet as we are. I don't know, maybe the lack of animosity comes from a feeling like we're in the same garbage fire together. Neither of us started the fire (that dubious honour goes to the boomers who can go right into the sin bin), but both of us have to live with it. If anything I'd be saying Z is a bit worse off-what with increased school shootings and the general....this. Same overall feeling of "everything is terrible" but with an added dash of a higher chance of a more personal tragedy. Whee. At the end of the day I think it's just that for Millennials and Z, we're the first two generations who are facing a different type of everything being terrible. All throughout the rest of human history (much of it undeniably awful), during bad times you could still at least rely on "this too shall pass". The idea that one day, if you can survive long enough, things *will* get better, if not for you, than for your descendants. This is no longer the case. We now get to stare down the barrel of things getting worse unless we stop it. And that sucks.
@@mafiacat88 where I like the sentiment, I'm not sure about what the "this too shall pass" actually means. In the sense that making the world better for the next generation, at least in terms of technology is relative new thing, at least in the understanding of people. the senses that the world is changing is a modern phenomenon. not new I grant you but in the stone age, they didn't have any reason to think that the next generation would have it better. the world changed fso slowly that it wasn't apparent that it did. if this is just random noise to you, I'm sorry. it's just a different perspective on things.
I'm a Gen Xer born in the early 70s who has never found Millennials to be anything less than inspirational. I'm glad to see so many people fighting back against all the Millennial tropes.
Doesn't matter, the elder side of gen X (those that are closer to the age of boomers) and boomers burnt us and they keep burning up to validate their own ego and from what I see they started to move on at the next not one but two generations after us the last couple of years
I'm still surprised no story tellers have talked yet about the trauma of being raised by dysfunctional hippie boomers. That may sound funny, but when you grow as a child: - without structure or support and neglectful - with parents who argue and yell constantly about money to make ends -- tells you "everything is possible if you work hard for it" -- alcoholism issues -- domestic violence -- magical thinking that everyone else will solve their problems -- throw their money problems on me when I'm an adult -- teach me nothing because I'm too "stressful" As a growing millennial with dysfunctional boomer parents, I had to form my very own identity from the ground up and explore what I would want to be and how I would fit in this world because I didn't knew the limits of myself and the only thing I was thought was to figure it out on my own and being extremely self reliant and resilient, without being able to form meaningful and long term connections because my default was going into relationships that were extremely toxic. My younger millennial brother fell into drugs and alcohol and has recovered, but he still had to figure out lots of stuff on his own too. He was abused by many friendships he formed and him too struggled to figure out boundaries and how to make a life without being dragged down by others. We, my brother and I, as millennials, are actively trying to break this non sense cycle my boomer parents learned from their own and it's exhausting to put an end to this. It's just so much to figure out yourself, your place in a society changing fast, and then breaking the trauma cycle. My gen X brother didn't bother trying he burried himself alone and we haven't been hearing about him for almost a decade. I can't blame him. So whenever I hear people saying millennials are entitled and annoying, I want to scream my pain and rage out there. I was conditioned to be an easy child by parents who didn't know how to handle children emotional needs. I've been denied attention because I was too "stressful", too "annoying", or downright humiliated when in a crisis. The only state I was accepted and loved when I was happy and joyful. If you think I'm annoying for expressing myself, don't forget I've been denied a voice or needs for so long.
Absolutely! While our parents may have provided financially, they were horrible in the emotional support department. They were absolutely emotionally abusive, volatile, and impatient.
So true! And there are a huge amount of narcissistic Boomers who abuse their children, and who have left them with no savings to start of their young adult life. Them spent all the money on themselves. A lot of millenials have trauma from being brought up in an emotionally abusive environment thay couldn't escape from which was further delayed by there not really being a lot of jobs for them to gain financial independence either
They will look back fondly on our reluctancy to continue the cycle of just having kids simply because its "our time." But god forbid we even say that because we'd be being Naracistic. My point is we are the first generation to admit we were't alright because people who were unprepared to be parents had kids simply to buckle to their parents/societal expectations. We know better. Sad parts is the people who are breeding are the backwood Trumpy idiots who are repeating their parents mistakes regardless if they think they'll be good parents or even if they could afford it, people who made mistakes (unplanned children), and the rich. Which terrifies me, but thank god I'll be dead.
I'm surprised this didn't touch on the fact that we are absolutely buried in student loan debt. I've never bought a new car, I doubt I'll ever own my own home, and yet they call us privileged and entitled. Most of us are just scraping by.
I never understood the “pay their dues” line we fed others. Don’t previous generations work hard so that their kids don’t have to struggle the same? I am on the cusp of millennial/ Gen X and I don’t want my kids to have to struggle like I do, I just want them to have a happy life.
True, but then there becomes the generational envy about someone potentially having something that they worked for. Like "I worked to pay my way through college, why should they get it for free" but my dad explained that college was cheap enough that even for a good school he just had to work part time hours over the summer and would have plenty plus extra. That generation could just buy a car our house because cars cost a whole lot less, and there were literally programs to basically give away homes for nothing (which then typically go up in value so you sell it to buy a better oe, and on and on...), so they expect us to do the same without those programs and much higher prices, and if we don't we're lazy. Not to mention how so many jobs require more work now, yet we get paid for that work for the same amount they did, but not including inflation or cost of living, thus we get paid less. Not to mention all the unpaid internships and otherwise unpaid labor ("exposure" doesn't mean I can eat, susan). But asking for more, aka equal to what they got, means we're entitled. The jobs we do to get by are looked down on and seen as undeserving of a living wage, even if they're extremely taxing both physically and mentally/emotionally. Because they didn't get hand outs- except they did- so why do we deserve better than what they got? Even if it was supposed to make things easier for younger generations, but then oh no can't have that. Boomers and their so called logic and common sense about our "entitlement" makes no god damn sense.
What bugged me about that line is its wrong. Millennials did more hours of home work in high school, were more likely to have a secondary job or an extra curricular, were more likely to apply to university, studied more in unviersity and worked more hours on the side, applied for more jobs after and worked more hours, and got less. Millennials paid mroe dues then boomers or gen x at their age and got less.
All generations will struggle. And protecting us from struggle as kids and wanting us to just have a happy life is what makes so many of the younger generations (millenials and genz) have so low levels of tolerance to hardships and stress, and why we have so many mental health problems. You should teach your children that life is unfair, and hard, and that they can fight to make it better but sometimes no matter how hard you work life can be really painful. That's the only way (in my opinion) for kids to end up having a happy life.
Yeah. I think a similar situation is like (not all but a lot of my friends have experienced it and it's weird - and others too), when parents say they want their kids to have a better education, and they work hard, and then when they share stuff they learnt or like (not even unsolicited or anything, it'll be relevant to situations), or talk a bit different ect, they get punished for it or treated badly. 🙃 Like your kids respect you still man, chill. You've got so much life experience, different experiences and skills ...they just now are starting/have built a few of their own. And it's not like their elders stop or have to stop acquiring skills. Idk man. But yeah, that example came to my mind reading your comment. There's a big age gap with some of my family, and I've observed this tension and experienced it a bit myself: who are born in the 80s with parents born in the 50s, where there's weird put downs or tension with the 80s lot knowing other things?? Weird tbh
@@Ignasimp I agree to an extent with what you're saying. But allowing too much - or not helping/protecting isn't good either imo. Purpose of parent/s/guardian/s right? But yeah - somewhat agree. Anticipating struggles and learning to deal with them, failure and regrets as well as success is important. But don't want to traumatise kids so they burn out/have mental health problems that way. Also, the disagree bit for me is that idk if it'll make them happy, but it will prepare them for life and maybe content? 🤔
This reminds me of headlines saying how millennials are “killing off _____ industry.” While older generations criticize millennials for not keeping whatever industry they love afloat, it’s also up to the industry to adapt to modern society and its consumers. Yes, some might say it sucks that restaurants like Applebee’s aren’t getting as much business as they used to, and people aren’t buying enough fabric softener. But if these businesses aren’t catering to people’s needs or are considered as unnecessary/frivolous/mediocre, then they’re going to see less profits. In a rapidly changing society, it’s harder for millennials and gen Z to get an affordable education, find a fulfilling career, and/or build a family compared to older generations. Younger people don’t have as much money to spend as older people, so of course they’re going to be more frugal in their spending habits. Millennials aren’t killing off these industries for fun, they’re doing it to survive.
My favorite headline was "Do Millenials Even Eat?" Where they complained that we weren't eating out as often, or eating in as often. As if we were going periodically hungry just to spite them, rather than just being poor.
I think the funniest one is that we’re killing the diamond industry. You mean we don’t make enough to buy shiny, useless, very common rocks that are part of a horrendously cruel industry? When we could spend far less on polished glass that looks the same, and have money left to pay rent? Wow. How, um, awful of us?
Eating a fancy restaurant is a privilege, and that goes to show you that Boomers, who grew up in economic prosperity in the 1950s and 1960s, actually had it quite nice.
The reason we may come across as "not growing up" is because we literally cannot financially because of the recessions, bad job market, student debt, wars, etc. I cannot responsibly afford a house or a child, so no, I guess I'm not "growing up." Also, maybe we come across as annoying but you can't deny that we've been calling out previous generations' racist, sexist, immoral, big business misbehavior and I hope this helps the coming generations.
you think the status symbols are where the critique comes from? I've always felt it was affect... including "calling out" behavior bc it comes as a form of... well it seems to be done in a way to increase social capital since there is an absence of actual capital. that's my gen x view of the critique on millennials. I hear you tho
lemme tell you as a Gen Z, you guys being so loudly against racism, homophobia, pro self love has shaped my own view. I feel like because you guys can live so freely despite the older generations dissing y'all I can embrace myself better and continue to fight to the good fight.
@@jusletursoulglobaby but marriage, owning a home, kids, aren’t just “status symbols”, they’re often regarded as rites of passage. Rites that have been denied to many of my generation, because we simply can’t afford it. If you regard adulthood as being financially stable, owning a home, having a career, having kids... a lot of millennials aren’t adults.
As a millenial from a third world country, I don't identify with this stereotype at all lol.. On the contrary, I have been bullied for two years by some X gen coworkers that I have, who go as far as stealing/hiding things from my office. So I don't think maturity and accountability is a matter of age or generation.
You guys should do the “two guys and a girl trope” (don’t know what’s that called lol) It’s usually a white guy, a poc guy and usually a white girl. The white guy and girl fall in love and the the other guy is usually the comedy relief or creates a love triangle.
Yesss this! There are SO MANY examples of this and it would be a great trope to analyze. Especially since the POC guy is shown as genuinely sweet and sensitive to the girl and would have been a healthier choice overall.
Yes, I abhor that the person of colour is used as a sidekick, while the white people are the main focus. Lizzie Macguire did something similar, with white Gordo and Lizzie eventually ending up together, while Latina Miranda is still single by the end.
@@user-jo9pm8fd8g I think they were referring to women who choose male friends because they think they can't be friends with other women or they say, "other women are too much drama"
And I’m an Xer who received TONS of them! That particular “complaint” is so shallow and has been around before Millennials, but they seem unfairly tied to it. Then again, I’m biased, I think Millennials rock. I also love Gen Z.
Are people aware how old the older Millenials are at this point? The YOUNGEST Millenials/oldest Gen Z are university age! And Gen X is going towards retirement.
Being that most people seem to retire in their mid to late 60s, and Gen X are those born from 1965 - 1980, according to the American source the Pew Research Center; which means Gen X still has a good 9+ years until they could start to retire. In 2021, Gen X would be turning/turned age 41 - 56. Being that Pew Research Center is an American source and the names of generations were given by American researchers based events (foreign and domestic) this would be a reliable source. According to the same source: Generation "Gen" Y/Millennials are born in the years 1981 - 1996 (age 25 - 40 in 2021). Generation "Gen" Z are those born in the years 1997 - 2012 (age 9 - 24 in 2021) Baby Boomers are those born in the years 1946 - 1964 (age 57 - 75 in 2021) Silent Generation are those born in the years 1928 - 1945 (age 76 - 93 in 2021). A few other generations are: The Lost Generation/WWI Generation, which are those born in the years 1883 - 1900 The Greatest Generation/WWII Generation are those born in the years 1901 - 1927 (some of which are still alive today) Generation "Gen" Alpha would be those born from 2013 until the late 2020s/early 2030s (the children of Millennials and possibly at times, the oldest of Gen Z)
Alias Anybody “Gen X is going towards retirement”. I wish! We have at least another decade to go. At the very least. If any of us can afford to retire when the time comes in the first place.
The thing that frustrates me most about the millennial hate is when people use the word millennial to signify 'anyone younger than me that I don't agree with or understand'. We aren't children anymore.
Fun fact: "Generation snowflake," though ususally meant to refer to millennials, was first used in 2017 to describe college students, so would be Gen Z. Aside from it being a stupid political insult from Fox, it shows how it actually has nothing to do with the generation itself
They’re so mad that Millennials refuse to be played the same way they did and waste their lives being slaves to their jobs and listening to the lies of the “American dream” 💀
@@aidan9656 Got news for you. If you are not part of the upper 1%, you are a slave to society and how it works. You may not know that now, but soon you will learn. Want to change things? Start anytime, we are all waiting for this generation to take on some cause besides their own.
“They try to fit in with the younger generation but they’re not the younger generation anymore.” That’s so true. Even older generations confused millennials with gen z for a long time because of this.
But that is because it is easy to get stuck. If you find yourself at your early 30s without a steady job, the option to access permanent housing, the stability to form a family, isn’t it normal to feel like you have more in common with people in their 20s than people in their 40s?
I have, thanks, but I am pretty passionate about Asian American representation in the US. They did a video on black stereotypes and I thought they'd do the same for Asians, Native Americans, and Hispanics.
They haven't done a native american one yet, (Which sucks because I am native american and would love it), but they did do an Asian one. I think the title is Model Minority.
@@djervalevy9784 Yeah, we are the forgotten Minority. I mean, 1,500 indigenous women have gone missing or been murdered in the past year, and when was the last time you heard about that on the news. Oh wait, it hasn't ever been on the news.
Hey, how about a "american character" as a trope? You'd be amazed how those stories are, well, strictly american and really not relatable for the rest of the world often
Amen... Like I often think of them as the Western Fantasy, the stories that I read on Wattpad and the like... Loud, Vulgar, Free with hidden self-biased agenda if they're working for the government. Always thinking For America, by America, We are Big Mighty, King-of-the-world, never tried junkyard collecting for the poorest-pure-blood Americans...
I guess it could be argued, though, that most of these are fragments of the overall USian identity, but I think a deep dive into anyone considering themselves patriotic to the US could be interesting. Very dicey, though. Gonna ruffle the feathers of many people (who can go f*ck themselves lol).
@@JinxWilson Sorry😅, but that's how some of us from the Philippines did see the Americans. Heck, that was what I picked up from media and news... Admirable at some points, novel, sometimes hypocritical at some areas, Noble at some points, self-serving at best and quite "out there" at objective distant look...
@@chunellemariavictoriaespan8752 don't be sorry. A lot of us need a wake-up call (the ones I was saying who could go f*ck themselves esp) and maybe a deep dive into patriotism etc could help bridge that gap of understanding
It all boils down to - we were the last generation to be fed how life was going to be if we only did "xyz" (namely go to college, get any kind of degree, start at the bottom, work our way up, buy a house, have 2.5 kids and 1 dog and a fenced in yard for our dog), and when we did it, we all found out it was all lies. Instead we were met with a crumbling economy, multiple wars, school shootings, the internet booming, paying into a social security fund we know damn well won't be available for us because we will all retire when we're 105 years old, watching more and more people become homeless, and watching our kids drink lead in their water. But at least we grew up with some awesome rock music.
Lol no. I'm 28, first generation American and retired. If you'd stop thinking like this and blaming someone else you'd be able to turn it around for yourself. It's not easy and requires a lot of work. For sure. Some start ahead of the pack financially and some start at the back.
@@jfri92 'People are becoming homeless at an unprecedented rate' 'no, because I retired early.' Wow. Big brain right here. I guess the homeless rate isn't increasing after all, because some rando says he retired at 28. Okay, boomer.
@@InternetMameluq I said I was 28 and you call me a boomer. Congratulations, you're an idiot. Talk about "BiG bRaIn TiMe." Interesting take there. Seeing as how I was replying to the "we wont retire until we are 105 years old" comment and then you decided to get offended and throw in something about homelessness which I wasn't talking about. So that's cool, I guess. Anything else you'd like to be "woke" about?
The older sibling gets targeted by the parents and the rest of the family, paving the way, and until the younger sibling is old enough won’t realize what they’ve done for them.
yea but now there are just different social norms. norms are sometimes a positive thing. also body positivity isnt 100 %; there's still fat shaming and now thin shaming is added to that list.
When the Boomers were teens and twenties we acted like Millennials today. So did gen X and Y. In our day we expected a job for life. It's called being young.😂🤣 Mind you kids are arseholes today.👅
@@Danny-jl2sd we had to run the mile every year in elementary school and there were special ribbons for 1st 2nd and 3rd place and then everyone else got participation ribbons and we all through them away because we knew they were meaningless garbage.
As a millennial , I think we were the "transition " generation from Baby boomers (old world) to Generation Z (new technological world) , and that make us have a sense of being lost in the world and uncertainty in ourselves.
I kinda agree I feel like I got to see technology evolve as I grew up. From flip phones(when I was a little girl) to smart phones and social media (when I was a teen)
I kinda agree I feel like I got to see technology evolve as I grew up. From flip phones(when I was a little girl) to smart phones and social media (when I was a teen)
taking a brief pause at around 3:45ish "expect a raise every 2 years" I find it funny because not that I "expect" it, just that price of living goes up every year. Cost increases (even when no changes have occured) are supposedly natural, so labor cost increases should just be natural as well.
And imagine...the generations that criticize us the most are those that directly contributed to the hostile conditions we are attempting to live and even thrive in. It’s like tripping your child, causing them to skin their knee and yelling at them for saying that they’re hurt. Things aren’t what they used to be and so many of us millennials are still finding our way. I believe that is resilience ❤️
Boomer parents, in general, raised their Millennial kids to believe if they worked hard and followed the rules they could achieve whatever they wanted. Boomers then trashed the world and made all those rules meaningless, and turned around and criticized Millennials for not following rules that no longer worked/existed and daring to be angry about it. What makes Millennials unique is that we were raised for a social structure that stopped existing right as many of us hit adulthood and we had to figure out on the fly how to adjust, while Boomers/Gen X and Gen Z on either side had at least some form of consistent socio-economic definition.
@@Takisan111 and Gen X which are your older brothers in many ways are CRUSHING IT in thesame business environment you wastrels constantly cry its impossible to succeed. Its very much possible and social mobility is higher now than it was 20 years ago, except a lazy millenial will never have the work ethic to succeed.
Honestly, I don’t think Gen Z has it that much better than millennials. A major recession is coming and some of the same problems millennials had when they reached adulthood are still here
Most of the comments I read are accurate and true in that: 1. WE never asked for participation trophies. Our parents (not mine but generally speaking) wanted to feel better about themselves and demanded symbols of good parenting. "I'm raising a winner" kind of BS. It shows in that "Karen" is a mainstream term and acknowledged by everyone 2. Older generations have hated younger generations throughout time so it's really just par for the course. What I find most interesting is that "Millennials" is just a stand in for kids these days. The youngest of us are mid 20's and the oldest are almost 40. We're definitely not the intended target of spite but our name rolls off the tongue easier than Gen Z. Lastly, MOST of these examples are made in a white person's point of view. I most of the people I know are nothing like this (white friends included). Most of us just want to make enough money to support ourselves, as adults, on our own. Not having the ability to be a "responsible adult" and be independent, leaves us in a suspended state of adolescence/young adulthood which we in turn embrace as it allows us the a space to enjoy the little bit of life we can actually afford. (I.e video games, cartoons/anime, drinking/drugs as escapism, etc)
wages and salaries stay down but inflation goes up (costs/prices etc) and yet they say if you give this up you can afford this but that's not how it works
Definitely, 100%. Especially because access to those forms of media is one of the things that's arguably gone DOWN in price while all the other stuff you listed has gone up. Netflix, and cheap games on Steam, and pirated anime and movies. They're not luxury goods anymore, so of course we're going to indulge the crap in them.
How is it a white persons point of view? Lol, it has nothing to do with skin colour, its the location. Thats a racist generalization. And you're right, we never asked for participation trophies, we created them. Every comment trying to blame other people for our problems is the exact reason why we have these stereotypes about us. Refusing to take responsibility for anything, cant take negative criticism.. hm, sounds pretty entitled to me.
Gen z people who mock millennials for no reason, need to calm down and use their angst to motivate themselves to be better. I say this as a Gen z teenager.
as a gen z I've always honestly supported them, but like millennials randomly started to hate on gen z out of no where, and their reasons are always identical to the reasons that they were hated for. maybe coz people stopped giving them attention, idk, but that was pretty weird.
@@Haittavero Once you're older you'll realize that making jokes at the expense of other people (especially if you know someone is insecure about what you're making fun of) is a sign of childhood.
Honestly they're teens and teens always do that to the generation before them. They make fun of us but then revive all our past trends. Just try to think of them as the annoying little sister who points out stuff that you don't want to hear but secretly tries to be like you. And honestly at the end of the day they have taught me to be more self aware. Like truly I NEEDED to hear that liking harry potter isn't a personality trait lmao If your gonna be mad, be mad at the generation of our parents that raised us to be the way we are and somehow still manages to shift the blame on us for ending up like this. Gen z will grow up soon and be picked on by our kids lmao
@@dropdeadxhorizon exactly. There were a bunch of Gen Zers who were trying to claim Robert Pattinson as someone "born in the wrong generation". The man could be some of Gen Z's father. Like. It just makes me confused.
As a Gen Xer, it’s weird how we were sort of skipped over in the whole “hate on young people” thing. We were also called the slacker generation, maybe we were just too laid back to be annoying, lol. For whatever reason, we all just went straight to hating on millennials. But take heart, soon it will be their turn to hate on Gen Z.
I'll only hate gen z if they become like us millennials. As long as they're making an honest effort to avoid the mistakes of prior generations, they got my respect.
I mean gen z already make fun of boomers so idk if they are gonna hate on us and you guys(malainilas)don’t seem to be the type to hate on us cause you guys have been hated on already so i don’t we are gonna get hate
@@Ruby-dc3wp Elders should appreciate the differences in new generations in order to better assist them into becoming productive, upstanding citizens which in turn benefits both parties in the long run.
Every generation waits for the opportunity to influence society for the better (as they perceive). Millennials obsess over social media to expand their sphere of influence before they have enough experience to know what is truly helpful for society.
It’s weird how your perspective changes as you get older. I never made fun of people for being “old” when I was younger but my perception of age was still so different from now. In my teens, my attitude toward 30+ was “ooh grownup.” Even in my mid 20s I asked my brother who’d then just turned 30 how it felt to be 30 and he just shrugged and said matter of factly, I feel the exact same. And I went, really? As if I thought hitting a certain age magically makes you feel different. I just turned 28 and I wanna laugh at how I used to think being over 30 automatically meant you must’ve had your shit together lmao. But that’s also part of a weird thing where I was always intimidated by and felt too young and inadequate around older people. Still working on that tbh.
"The people who talk trash about my generation must've forgotten who raised it." - Dillon Garcia I mean seriously, they complain that we're too coddled yet they routinely gloss over who was doing that coddling in the first place. Feelings of entitlement don't spawn in a vacuum. There's a lot of "the pot calling the kettle black" going on.
Finally, someone who agrees with my perspective. I am a baby boomer, but I do not have children. However, I watched as many in my generation spoiled their children to an unfortunate degree. Take those overpriced Jordan sneakers, for example.
i wanted to be a millennial so badly when buzzfeed and “only 90s kids remember” was big. and i can already see gen z doing the same with kids from 2005+ not being “allowed in our generation”. we hate millennials for being narcissistic but when are we going to do the same? - a gen z 18 y/o
Bruh same tbh. Pisses me off when I see people doing the exact same shit. Esp cos the still that the ~90s kids~ gatekept was stuff the oldest of us also experienced and it’ll be the same shit for the next lot. It’s so dumb.
I can relate as an 05 kid. The barriers between generations shouldn't exist. While 90s kids were born in the 90s they also grew up in the 2000s we experienced almost the same things they grew up with at a younger age even if we were infants and toddlers in the 2000s. I can't tell you how many times the only 90s thing pissed me off. There's only a three year difference between an 18 year old and a 15 year old they would technically have similar experiences from a childhood point of view.
Millennials really just revealed the flaws in the system and were blamed for being blunt enough to call them out. In the words of Michael Scott, “If I am, it’s because society made me this way.”
As a millennial, I've never met anyone as they describe in this video. It seems this stereotype is really location and class-based. It's mostly well-off individuals, who live in/around big cities like NYC, and LA who have these features. There is a big disconnect between blue-collar and white-collar millennials.
As a Gen Y, I've honestly only ever have had good opinions about Gen Z. I think they are the smartest generation of us all, and I hope to god that they don't turn out to be depressed like us, angry like the Gen X, or selfish like the Baby Boomers.
Could you maybe do a take on the trope of immigrants (e.g. Latinx or Eastern European) with tragic backstories that are just played for laughs? I've never seen an analysis of this trope.
please don't use Latinx , use latino (it's just the way the language works, like many languages other than English) , it's not sexism as you are told. but I like the idea you proposed!
When gen z eventually becomes the new boomers I really hope we were more excepting of the younger generation. One thing I’ve learned from older generations is that often they become very crabby and don’t have faith in the younger crowd. I’d hate to be the old lady who’s stuck in the past it is unwilling to learn from the younger generation as they will from us. I think a lot of this is a result of not being to except that the world is very different from what it was even just 10 years ago.
@thomas thompson saying that is willfully ignorant that the older generation will never know what it’s like to grow up in a different time. especially with the way that technology has advanced and will continue to advance there’s still a lot of values that the younger generation has learned that the older generation will never be able to experience. please get off your high horse just because you were born in a different time. being older doesn’t necessarily make you wiser and vice versa. experience does not equal wisdom
@thomas thompson this is exactly why every generation tends to have more compassion than the last. if the older generation can’t learn from the younger generation then that means that we would have absolutely no progress. in fact the entire rise in popularity socialism is due to the younger generation using their platforms to help boost leaders like aoc and bernie sanders amongst others.
I'm an old millennial (like, almost 40 old), and I think gen z are dope af. You all are going to change the world. We will do what we can to make it less crappy in the meantime. 🙌🏻❤️
I feel like this is lacking is in presenting the class issues that millennials have. This largely focuses on the yuppie Seattle or LA centric lifestyle that doesn't at all represent the millennials that are still working minimum wage even after graduating college or never even went to college. The media depiction focuses on the glitz and glam of social media like Instagram narcissism of rich millennials to a overrepresentive degree.
My first memory is watching the towers fall on 9/11. My second is sitting on my mom’s lap, saying ‘ I don’t want to go to war’ as Bush declared war on Iraq. When I was six, I realized that kids a year or two younger than me had never known a country at peace. I think that does things to a person.
It does. My mom pulled me out of school for almost a week when it happened and we lived in a sleepy nowhere town in CA. I can remember other things before that, but god I felt that ever present fear of war ever since.
There was the Cuban missile crisis in the early 60's and then Kennedy was assassinated so baby boomers didn't have it easy either. Following that was the Vietnam war.
GEN Z NEXT PLEASE: I’m a Gen Z but let me tell you our Generation has “savior/god complex”, we literally think that we are THE generation that changed the world,when all we do is tweet, sign petitions and nothing actually important!
Some of them really treat it like a trend and only do it for the approval of others, not actually because it’s the right thing to do. It’s so bothersome...
Fr. I think Gen Z is gonna make some positive changes in the future but we think we're gonna go out and start a revolution but in reality we lay in bed watching TikTok all day.
Thank for for being big enough to look at yourselves at not being all good & having flaws. That's more than I can say for Boomers, who basically project all their flaws & short comings onto the Gen Xers & Millennials. But I think you guys could have a fighting chance.
yea but all that can be powerful and social media DOES have an impact. however, it's important to know not to believe everything you read or hear online
Oof, I felt this as a teen too. I signed sooooo many fucking petitions. Really those petition sites are just data harvesting businesses, to sell to advertisers. So it's actually worse than doing nothing - it actively enriches those you think you're acting against!
These stereotypes are made up by older and younger gens from the outside. Also our boomer parents said we were all equal just for trying and now they make fun of us for believing we can “do anything” when they literally taught us that growing up. And then they kept us from succeeding and blamed us for not being competitive enough.
definitely saw this pressure growing up. boomers wanted their millennial kids to compete and so it can be toxic and lead to anxiety, depression, disconnect, lack of empathy, selfishness etc
Growing up as millennial was hard. Glorifying eating disorders, domestic violence, bullying, and no interest in your struggles with all that even from the special services taught us that nobody cares about us, so I don't really get where that "privilege and entitlement" comes from tbh. Most of us don't even have enough self-worth to be privileged or entitled lol So there's no wonder that many of us still can't figure out who we are and what do we wanna do, even though we're all adults already.
He just has a weird and annoying personality in universe but he's so happy go lucky that he's satisfied with everything and just falls into success by luck, he doesn't really embody this trope at all
Indeed. Todd never really struck me as fitting that stereotype. While he did have the slacker and failing upward thing, the series also makes clear that he is the most selfless person alive and he ends up doing a job that doesn't pay much but is fulfilling.
I dislike how gen z is portrayed as the younger yet much more mature younger sibling, it makes me feel like I should have figuered out more of my stuff than I actually have. Like not only do I sometimes (irrationally) think that my peers are more mature than me and have a deeper understanding of the world, so it seems does the media.
Don't sweat it. Everyone is just making due your not behind your doing fine. Accepting that where your at is perfectly fine is a great step towards peace and happiness.
I think that one aspect that differentiates clearly Millenials and gen x is the fact that whereas the first had to be bombarded by all the bad news of the word and go on, the second is dangerously numb to it, to the point where anger comes from the inactions of others and not the act itself
@@strange144 the big advent of the internet. That's the biggest difference between the two. Millennials were relatively low tech until like 2005 when computers started becoming publicly available. Gen Z grew up with computers, ps3s, and smartphones. Everything was connected. People stopped having to take "how to type" classes in like 2008 because by age 5 most Gen Z knew how. Millennials grew as the technology grew; it wasnt just there working great when we were born.
@@kraziiXIII I don't know about being low-tech until 2005. My family always had a bunch of computers and technology when I was growing up in the 90s. My youngest sister is gen Z while the rest of my siblings are millenials, and she doesn't really know more technology than us. She is more up to date on the newest websites/apps, but she still has trouble with how technology works and comes to us for help. *shrugs*
@@strange144 Gen Zs are cynical but optimistic (perhaps by learning from their more cynical Gen X parents and observing how Gen Y crashed and burned with the demands placed on them that don't work in today's society by their Baby boomer parents), Gen Y is generally just more depressed, have repressed anxiety and a good dose of inferiority complex.
Love this! It was great as usual, but I think that something big was missed--the pressure that millennials have been under to succeed since they were small children. If Gen X was the slacker generation, we were the overachiever generation. We spent our entire childhood preparing to get into college and be "successful." At the age of 3, most of us were already playing an instrument that we were expected to play through college. We studied ballet, went to soccer camps, volunteered on weekends, joined model UN, spearheaded clubs, and started practicing for the SATs when we were preteens all in hopes of getting into "a good college." Most of the practical and vocational skills had been taken out of schools due to defunding, so many never learned a lot of basic skills. And even if they were available, our yuppie parents thought that those jobs/skills were beneath them, and by extension us, so what was the use of learning them? I once had a roommate who was 25 and didn't know how to cook or clean at all because his parents never taught him. They told him to just focus on getting into college. So, he did. We all did. Then graduated with a mountain of debt and literally not even the possibility of finding a job. The same people complaining that millennials expected to be promoted after 2 weeks fail to mention that said millennial was probably working their 5th internship. At this point, they probably had enough skills to be promoted to an associate-level position, yet, were unable to progress because the older generations had turned all the entry-level jobs into unpaid work. Then when we finally made it to the entry-level position, we were already late in our late mid-20s or pushing 30. And then Boomers and Gen Xs were yelling about us not maturing fast enough into adulthood. Where were our families? Our houses, our stability? Oh gee, I don't know. Somewhere hiding underneath the exploded housing bubble, a mountain of student debt and a job that paid 35,000 a year. I know that every generation hates on the next, but I am calling on all of us not to scapegoat Gen Z or Alpha the way we were. Somehow in the next 20 years, I am certain that Gen X and what remains of the Boomers will start blaming them for climate change or whatever disasters await us in the future. Let's not join them.
I agree 100% on ending the cycle of generational abuse. It's interesting hearing your perspective as it sounds like your family and friend group was wealthier than mine. Its neat to see how our experiences intersect. Honestly, yours actually sounds worse. I never worked any internships bc I never expected to be able to have a job that would offer one. I certainly dreamt of a comfortable life, but that mean making 50k. Which is still hard to do,but achievable by different means. I was the first to go into college after HS, but dropped out when it was apparent I no longer wanted to teach. I typically do make just under 50k from stressful, but manageable sales positions. I even managed to buy a house for 114k. I think, having lower expectations helped a lot. Though to be honest, my expectation the planet would be habitable long enough for me to get old is turning into a bit of a mockery. Anyways, I hope you are well! Take care of yourself:)
I was never taught to cook or clean either! Solidarity high five! I never had hobbies either, the money all went into after school activities instead. Like, please just buy me art supplies instead of a karate subscription?? Nope. You're going to karate. While constantly hearing about how much it costs, and I didn't want it. And those music lessons! they never taught music theory, or how to express yourself. It's all reading off a sheet and getting good at playing quickly. Sigh. Of course that's a very middle class childhood... but so be it. The kids richer than me had even more after school activities, including supplemental tutoring, which I certainly didn't envy. But the kids poorer than me were often allowed to actually cultivate their actual art, or sport, or whatever they liked, and their parents scrimped and saved to provide for that. Instead of just flushing money down the toilet on pointless stuff that looks good on a uni application.
like, shit, I used to make a bunch of animations and short videos on the computer, with really bad quality cameras. I have absolutely none of them anymore, because paying for an external hard drive would have been a waste of money! But, oh, all those other lessons.... those were tooootally worth it!! /s So I'm pretty bitter about that. I can't look back on any of the art I made as a teenager, as that computer's hard drive self destructed. Any online backups are gone because I hadn't signed into the account recently enough. I can never just dig them out of a drawer. I'm sure a lot of them were garbage, but my god, I wish I could just ACTUALLY LOOK AT THEM again instead of only having my memories.
so true it even hurts... I am extremely overqualified, been studying like a beast to get an engineering degree, then masters, valuable hobbies etc etc to find myself in my 30s exploited by both big and small companies for a mediocre salary, not owning a home, nor expectatives of getting it, not to mention affording children. My older cousins did shit of this and they have homes, children, stable jobs... Our generation got screwed and they look down at us like it was our fault. But I'm just even more worried about the coming generations, they are going to be fucked by social media, covid crisis, climate change and what knows.
@@kaitlyn__L I understand your pain completely. I wrote a lot of poetry in HS, and, it was actually pretty good. I had it all published on a forum.... and then the forum did a complete reset and deleted EVERYTHING. By gawd that hurt. You have my absolute sympathy. The only thing we can do is just try and make more art. And watch some videos on those Hindi men who make mandalas out of sand and then wipe it all away. Sending love and solidarity your way.
“It’s not hard work that burns people out, but rather the feeling that their work doesn’t matter.” - April Wensel This is particularly true in the case of millennials. While I think making your job your primary source fulfillment/enjoyment can be a slippery slope, many people just aren’t satisfied anymore with having a job that simply “pays the bills”. They want something more out of it, and what’s wrong with that?
If I had to try and chat up random strangers in pubs I'd probably never have had a girlfriend so I'm glad dating and meet up websites and later apps came along. And it's not like organised and semi organised matchmaking is something that didn't exist before the Internet anyway.
I know, right? I want to meet a nice girl at the bookstore...buy her a coffee...and eventually we end up living in a cottage, baking bread, making art, and taking care of our cats.
@@alexwright4930 I feel pretty anxious about dating websites too! Everyone I ever dated was just someone I met on Twitter, or Tumblr, or LJ. We became friends first, shared hobbies, hung out on Skype. and THEN it hit. (Of course, when I visited them, I told the customs officers we met on Facebook or a dating site lol. Better than explaining LiveJournal to one of them!!)
I thought this would be a light-hearted video about debunking the stereotype of the annoying millennial, and then they started bringing up the trauma our generation's been through and I was like, "Ouch. This is getting too real." The Take is absolutely right. I was a child when both Columbine and 9/11 happened and, for all the societal change and supposed protections that came after, we haven't properly processed those traumas. The adults around us just put happy faces or combat fatigues or TSA uniforms over them and told us kids everything was all better now and we went, ". . . Okay." And as for the economy and environment, those, too, were placed on our shoulders: "Oh, did the economy nosedive just after you graduated high school in 2007? Deal with it. Your grandparents went through the Depression; you have no right to complain. Oh, has the environment been suffering for decades at your elders' hands and is now in danger of irreversible damage? You fix it. Because remember: You're THE FUTURE!" It's like being seated at a restaurant only to be left with the bill of the people who had the table before you because they decided to dine-and-dash. And don't get me wrong, not everyone who is a member of pre-millennial generations tries to pass of the woes of their era or classify young people as the stereotypes portrayed on TV. People of all generations are waking up to the fact that still-sore wounds don't heal themselves but rather, get passed on instead. It's simply that millennials have much more to deal with than just, "How many Instagram followers do I have?" and that needs to be addressed.
As a Gen z I feel like theirs a lot of solidarity between millennials and my generation millennials haven’t done what the generation before them did and tear us down for wanting more because they want more to if anything I feel like when boomers lose power it will be a little easier talking about stuff Edit :have y’all seen the Karen’s on TikTok making videos about genz they are having a one sided argument because I promise that no genz care if they wear skinny jeans and side parts it’s just not a trend doesn’t mean you can’t wear it
I genuinely hope millinials and gen z can lose the generational tribalism and hate tradition. If we can find solidarity and work together and then extend it to gen alpha maybe we can really change how people work together.
I honestly got choked up reading this comment. I really can't wait for the day the older generations step aside, so that the younger gens (millenials, gen Z, gen alpha, etc.) can clean up the mess. My fear is that by the time we get an opportunity, we'll be so exhausted & demoralized that we won't have anymore fight left in us. It'll be like how the hippies ditched their activism in favor of hyperconsumerism. But I see alot of us going on social media diets, doing more soul-searching, doing more meditation, seeking work-life balance instead of competitive soul-sucking jobs. So maybe there's hope.
@@PhoenixRising87 On the internet theres always ppl who bring up the fact they’re millennials and there’s also the ppl that wont shut up about being a 90s kid
I feel the same way and I do think this is mainly US-American culture. I'm European and in my country it's the Gen Z people that are for example obsessed with Social Media (some of my friends are Gen Z and prime examples of that). Most of my Gen Y friends including myself don't really care that much about Social Media.
I think it's more of a stereotype than a universal description of millennials. But also, yes, I wouldn't be surprised if it was largely an American attitude.
I can’t really remember meeting any millennials that meet these descriptions or stereotypes in real life. I see them all the time online, but never out in the wild.
I pictured a David Attenborough voice over stalking a wild millinial lol. Yeah honestly no one irl acts like these stereotypes its always only social media spaces. Like I've only seen millinials and gen z get along irl but apparently online they act like brats to one another its silly
@@therealfinnaspring8585 “ Watch closely and you can see the millennial spreading avocado on toast, a perplexing act that researchers still have yet to understand”
Zoomers are right to think millennials are developmentally arrested. It's hard to feel like an adult when one can't reach the adulthood milestones such as having a secure job (preferably in your field), buying a house or even moving out, having kids, etc.
Also Millennials of color is whole other story. A lot of grew up seeing crack or The Virus crush our communities/families. Police brutality being picked and dropped as a interesting topic. Meanwhile it never stopped happening. We are all baked in trauma sadly. And mocked for coping with it in various ways.
As a Gen Xer myself, all this millennial hate comes from the section of the boomer generation that votes for people like trump. And most TV execs are those type of boomers trying to frame that negative narrative about millennials because they hate, not only social change, but younger people standing up for themselves.
They call you Zoomers though, your values and ideals are alarming alligned on a lot of issues with them. They say you're more "connservative" than us millennials. Which I think is bullshit, I think you all aren't as cynical as you come off or appear but really want a seat at the adult table so bad you'll say shit like "Trumps got a point..." I think your generation are very chamillian and love to blend in to avoid conflict where we are outwright pussies and avoid it, then post about how angry it made us at home in our safe space.
Thats insanely inaccurate, you're just pushing your personal agenda and beliefs. Millennials cause their own problems, and while obviously not all of us are the same, we typically are lazy, entitled, arrogant, refuse to take responsibility for our actions and problems, and it shows in our work ethic, career path choice, life decisions. Nobody made us do anything. But accompany all of our flaws with the overpriced econemy (which is partially our fault) and everything adds up.
It really gotta be like that though (also 1997 here) my older sister (she was born in 1993) sometimes is like “ewww you’re so young.” and in my head I’m like “dude you’re only 26 and I’m only 23. We both young”
Of course we get criticized, we are in our 20s/30s, the the most unstable years of your life. This is the time to make mistakes. Milliennials have seen so many societal transitions in such a short amount of time, particularly technological and economic changes. All of our awkward phases exist online for people to see and critique. Yet, we didn’t invent the internet, we didn’t crash the economy, we are simply responding to it.
You are a minionZ (a.k.a. a Millennial/Gen Z cusper group) but your OVERALL Generation is Generation "Gen" Z ( those born 1997 - 2012); according to the American source. 1997 baby here as well.
As they say in the video, do you remember where you were when you heard that 9/11 happened? If you remember that moment, and had the understanding of what was happening (and you also remember living in the 90s) then that would make you a millennial. You were 4 when 9/11 happened and mostly experienced the 2000s as your childhood so you are on the cusp but still have more of the gen z experience. But that's okay ! I know right now it feels important but I promise you as you get older and the next generation is defined, you'll have a better idea of where you are generationally.
@@dropdeadxhorizon 👏 👏 👏 💯 WONDERFULLY Said. Right on the nose. 1997 baby here as well. I was age 4 - 12 from 2001 to 2009, and so my childhood would be in the 2000s. I was an infant to a toddler (age 0 - 3 in 1997 - 2000), a.k.a. late - 20th century.
To be fair, anytime the older generations want to blame the "young people" for something, they call them millenials, even if the examples they are complaining about are actually gen x or gen z. (this happens all the time in news articles). It's just old people complaining about anyone younger than them, but millenials shoulder the burden at the moment.
My brother’s a 34 year old high school teacher who sometimes complains about his students. He always used to rag on them as being Millennials until I told him HE was a Millennial and had the generations mixed up. The students he was complaining about were Gen Z. But anyway, I’m sure teachers will always complain about their students no matter the generation.
Yeah we get blamed for tiktok trends which tiktok has all generations on it but the trends they complain about specifically are gen z. Ppl just need to stop hating on other generations
It's been about making us scapegoats from the beginning, and about hating and wanting to blame vulnerable people as being responsible for their own vulnerability on a moral level.
And now some gen z are trying to blame millennials that we didn't do enough and I'm like????? Things aren't perfect yet but do you have any idea how much things changed in the past 10 years? With the pile of shit we were given, at least we got the foundations going and created the movements and platforms you now use to keep things moving forward.
@@MariaThePotterNut They are too young and we remain the generation with that studied the most, so anyone understands anything of what we are talking about.
Yep, it's weird to be in between. I'm an Elder Millenial, the one where the internet became a thing when I was in high school. I can't relate to anyone! My little sister was the high achiever, she's more in line with the stressed out, hardworking, planning, networking millenial. Meanwhile, here I am with the technological skills of a 70-year-old, and I don't really know what's going on with people! I'm just over here, married to a gen x but not sharing his cultural references, gardening, canning, crocheting and raising chickens. You'd think I'd get along well with hipsters, but no, they like to do what I like to do, but in a way that's as complicated as possible. My 11yo thinks I'm unfair for not even considering getting him a phone/tablet/device of some kind, but I just can't see any good coming of kids having unfettered access to that stuff.
@@er6730 from my own personal experience, I was able to find other autistic friends my age online where there were none at school, where we could talk about anime and sci-fi and video games to our heart's content (and prank call American businesses on Skype and think we were hilarious for parroting Adult Swim jokes, but hey ho). I was also able to access information to know I was bisexual at 13, and to be confident in it and demand acceptance instead of asking for it. And then knew I was trans at 15. I also, through what I'd learned about bodily autonomy and consent, understood that a particular doctor had tried to take advantage of me when many of my peers just went along with his things. (Not that reporting it did any good, but I digress...) But there's certainly aspects about it I didn't like, which mostly came from a few adults trying to insinuate themselves into our friend group. Offering iTunes and Xbox gift cards and the like to ingratiate themselves, turn everything into that Steve Buscemi "how do you do, fellow kids?" meme. If I had been isolated online, they might well have tried to groom me, but my large social network (in the, uh, traditional sense of the word) of those in my age range (13-17, as a 13 year old) shielded me from that. I didn't crave the adults' attention, or so forth, so yeah. But the internet back then was more about MSN/AIM/later Skype than the highly connected and stalker-able social networks of today. So I don't necessarily know how much if any of my experience ten or so years ago is applicable anymore. I _used_ Twitter as a teen, sure, but it wasn't the main base of operations like it is today - those were the IM clients for me. Ultimately, I think a lot of good can come from internet access, and private access at that, in their own comfort zone (no way I could've learned I was trans on some heavily surveilled family PC) - but if your kid's not ready, emotionally, intellectually, etc; to know how to filter out people who are bad news - it's probably for the best to restrict access for another few years. I was certainly "precocious" in those ways, and not everybody is. I knew how to not give out actual personal info at 10 or 11 when lots of people are vulnerable to giving out their address well past being 15 or even more. It's possible your kid just wants the new shiny, but it's also possible they feel stifled in home and school life, and might want an escape to find other kids like them. Depending on how comfortable they feel talking to you, of course. I suppose I really latched onto "no good can come of early access" rather than looking at the whole picture of what you said...... hm. Well, anyway, I've written this now, and so I might as well send it.
@Jenna Lenn999 hell, even people my own age who came from slightly richer families have similarly divergent experiences! I used a VCR until 2006, so I'm more with older millennials on nostalgia for those, and floppy disks, and the like. My girlfriend who was born just weeks after me never knew anything besides DVDs and DVRs and thumb drives. Strange. My formative computing experience was Windows 98, hers was XP. Etc etc etc. I watched a lot of home recorded tapes as well, so I have more nostalgia for late 80s early 90s adverts (the ones captured on tape) than ones from the time of my actual childhood, lol.
I think the generational lines are too broad. What does a 24/25 year old have in common with a 40 year old? Same with a 23 year old and a 13 year old. I think we need to ditch the generation thing anyway it kinda just promotes tribalism
@@rosemali3022 to each their own, but I found her insufferable. I think it’s because she also treats waitstaff really poorly in the show which is a big no for me.
@@aimeesmiles9400 I mean yeah, shes a shitty person and not to be admired. That's what I liked. So much of our media makes it out that women have to be perfect at all times, and flaws are shyness or not wearing contacts and getting a blowout. We're getting more nuanced characters in recent years, but that was the first time I saw an attractive woman protagonist be a genuinely horrible person. (Attractive is important, their are characters that are written nasty, but they are usually typecasted). I imagine we will get more of those in the future, and I dont know how I would feel if I watched the show back now, but those were my thoughts at the time.
@@theguybehindyou4762 That says more about you than it does about them. Don't like them? don't watch their movies and shows. Or better yet, why don't you write your own female protagonist? maybe you got some great insights, and you're wasting them by complaining about shit with strangers on the internet
I’m 28 and I swear I wasn’t even aware of the Millennial term till I was like 20 or something. And at that point, a lot of those articles were coming out blaming Millennials for all of society’s problems (ones that we inherited) or talking about experiences older Millennials were going through while I was still on the younger end of the spectrum. I still feel a little removed from the older end of the spectrum since they’re pushing 40 with, presumably, houses and families and I still feel like a kid sometimes. It’s just weird. People love to make fun of/blame Millennials for everything. Yet they still consume content created by and about Millennials, and a lot of social movements were started by Millennials. I mean, same goes for any generation. We can say what we want about Boomers all the live long day but we’re still gonna watch them on screen, be fans, etc. Idk about anyone else, but I don’t go through life relegating people to their generation. It’s just not natural. I don’t see someone and think, “boomer” or “gen z.” They’re just a person. Generations are not monoliths. They may share some similar life defining moments and mindsets, but no one person is the same! I just really don’t get the hate Millennials get. Not saying this in a smug way, but as with previous generations, Gen Z will eventually grow older and be deemed “obsolete” while they’re pushed aside to make way for the younger generation. Such is the way of the world, it seems. Just a funny side note: my brother’s a 34 y.o. high school teacher and he’s a good, well-liked teacher, but in private he’s often complained about the generation of his students. He’s always mistakenly referred to them as Millennials and called them entitled and whatnot until I told him, dude YOU’RE a Millennial. The students you’re complaining about are Gen Z. 😂😂
I’m 27 and feel the same way. I had no idea about the hate millenials are getting from younger generations as well.. meanwhile I can’t really identify with the experiences of older millenials or millenials depicted in popculture because i’m an Asian minority growing up/living in Europe and most of these examples are from the US. So I don’t even know how much of this should apply to me. At the same time it’s weird to be seemingly being mocked by gen z bc I still feel like i’m such a kid and I def don’t have aspirations that I used to imagine a late 20s person should have lol plus, I started to realise in recent years that I find more and more common things with older gen Z people. For now, my conclusion is that all this generational war between gen z and millenials is only happening on social media platforms which is the perfect place for people who just want attention to seem edgy and stir up shit. But seeing how much coverage and discussion this generational war is getting, I fear it could become a permanent mainstream woldwide thing. Which is really concerning since as you said... generations aren’t monolith and people can’t be categorised into these hard defining boxes.
@@revolrtol Exactly, totally agree. I also feel I'm definitely not where one might expect someone my age to be, but this "arrested development" some of us feel isn't because of how this generation inherently is; it's because of what we inherited (at least in the US, where I'm also an Asian minority), and that's just the truth. We're products of our environment and the economy we inherit. And it makes total sense if you have things in common with older Gen Z people since generations obviously aren't these strict boxes where once you reach the cutoff year, you magically can't relate at all to the next generation. I feel like I'm much more likely to have certain things in common w/ someone born in the late '90s, which is technically the start of Gen Z, than someone who was born in the early '80s, which is the start of Gen Y. As for the mocking, I feel like any generation that includes teenagers will do that. But still, yeah, some of the stuff they mock is plain idiotic and often just to be edgy. (To any Gen Z person reading this, I don't think it's all of you, or even the majority. Just a loud few.) Like I mentioned, one day Gen Z will start being edged out by Gen Alpha and the cycle will keep going, though who knows how the social media landscape will look by then. I do think social media makes this dumb generational war, that I don't even get nor buy into, seem bigger than it is, but you are right in that it could get even more validation by being covered by traditional media, and it'll just snowball into something bigger and more nonsensical...great. Also, where the hell is Gen X in all this? We never hear anything about them. They're just off somewhere blissfully left to themselves. Lucky mofos. 😭 Hope we can get that one day in the future...just finally be left in peace for once.
In my experience as a millennial, we're pretty inspired by Gen Z. We see how you guys are stepping up to be the change we couldn't. You make us hopeful for the future.
Don't worry. Majority of people think you're Millennials anyway. To the older folks we're all just "the kids who are on the internet and the phone all the time".
" Xennials are unique because they're the last generation to experience an analogue childhood and digital adulthood." Long live the Xennials! The Gen X and Millenial mash up.
I'm a late 90s baby and millenials really be treating me like i was born in the mid 2000's and don't remember a time when streaming, iphones and social media didn't exist.
Thank you that is what pisses me off most we actually had a good balance on technology it's gen z that was mostly raises on technology but we grew with video tapes and cassette tapes and they play us like we don't know what that is.
Honestly I was 2001 and were treated the same even though at least for a few years afterwards, VHS, cassettes, internet and smartphones weren’t a thing
@Jenna Lenn999I wasn't including people like u in the statement! It's the one's who are really condescendingly rude and do actually treat you like you're dumb just because you're in your early 20s. I think the mid-late 90s babies are confused as to whether we are gen z or millenials in 2020 when some of us are 22-25 and recall growing up millenial in tween years but in teenage years growing up gen z...it's like u don't fully belong to either gen cause ur 'too youg' for one and 'too old' for the other. Can other mid-late 90s babies agree?
@@bambii_thinks3147 1000% big agree. This has intersections with class and stuff as well, my richer friends the exact same age as me never knew cassettes and VCRs, they were always DVD and DVRs. Culturally I have a lot more in common with millennials, especially because I used to watch a lot of old tapes (we had dozens and dozens of home recorded films and TV shows with the ads intact). Like, I'm 25, and I relate more with most ppl in their 30s on that front. My dad made mixtapes for me from his vinyl which I'd listen on the way to school, or play Gameboy. But some other aspects, like how old you were when 9/11, or the like, I feel closer to genZ. I remember a time before smartphones, I used payphones and landlines sure. But I had an iPhone I'd saved up for when I was 15. I'm far more comfortable with smartphones than people 5-10 years older than me, but I still PREFER a laptop or a desktop. Seeing genZers do everything on a phone like it's NBD is confusing to me lol. Like don't your thumbs hurt?? I guess they look at us preferring computers like don't your wrists hurt? But I digress.. It's a liminal, transitory part of the generation. Transitional. I guess that's why they call us cuspers. Like "xennials" for the ppl like us but for genX and millennials. I've seen various portmanteau names for this cusp subgeneration but they don't seem standardised yet.
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Always loved this channel. In regads to millennials, I would recommend to you guys to read manga bokurano ch 30 until 32.
I am not facist, but the core of "might is right" explain why older gen hates current gen. They paid their due with 2 world wars and a cold war. Boomers gen get "might is right" core, survival explains behavorial conduct.
Heinlein's book Starshiptroppers also has same core message.
Again, I am not facist... but my opinion about hatred on millenials is as stated above. Dont shoot me.
What do you think?
To support my opinion, remember movie "all about eve" and series "house of cards".
For someone with anxiety your trope videos are poison. My TH-cam homepage is bombarded with your videos and I remove them because just the word "trope" gives me anxiety at this point (that and "the take").
What happened to the other woman that used to do the videos? I think she did a much better job, more in depth, had more perspective and didn't narrate with an undercurrent of resentment.
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Interesting video. I challenge you to make a video called " The Boomer Trope, Explained." What do you say?
Younger generations inherit their struggles from older generations yet get criticized for wanting more.
Not just wanting more but not putting up with bullshit. Of course I want a promotion when I've been held back in my career for so long and the low level job doesn't even have health insurance.
@@SS-wi4tm exactly!
You millenials are lazy for being unemployed in a competitive jobless environment. You're all so depressed with your made up illnesses in this error of terror attacks, war and mass shootings. You all need to get up and do something with yourselves! No not creatively!
@@sheadoherty7434 NO BOOMERS ARE LAZY BOOMERS ARE DESTROYING THE PLANET BOOMERS GET MORE OUT OF TAXES THEN THEY EVER PUT IN. BOOMERS WALKED ACROSS THE BRIDGE OF OPPORTUNITY BUILT BY THE GREATEST GENERATION AND THEN PROCEEDED TO BURN IT ONCE ON THE OTHER SIDE!
@@zombiekilldemon you missed the point (r/whoosh)
"They only care about frivolous things. When I was a boy, we were taught to be respectful"- Hesiod of ancient Greece. Old people have been complaining about young people since the beginning of time. Older generations complained about hippies (boomers) and now they're doing the same thing to younger people. It's the circle of hate.
Human beings are tribal in nature & while it served us well early on, it's a distinct disadvantage now.
And in the same way, every generation complains about the older generation.
hesiod et al were as usual repressing their rage at the maltreatment of their youth. it's that simple
@@tazhienunurbusinezz1703 I'm not sure that tribalism has ever served humanity well. At least not it's offshoots of scapegoating people with less power and status--a thing that has been around for all of human history, as we seem to have established in this thread. Because the younger generation is going to have less status than the older generation until the older generation ends up in nursing homes.
We're not even all that young anymore. The youngest among us is 24, still pretty young, but the oldest is almost 40. We just want to be left alone in our misery instead of being everyone's scapegoat.
"This is America, kiddo, you can be whatever you want to be, work hard, do your best."
*20 years later.
"What makes you think you deserve anything you entitled shit! Make my cheeseburger and like it!"
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so that's basically boomers
Wow. Hits hard.
Because u r skipping over the work hard part
To be fair about participation trophies, it's not like we asked the adults to give them to us lol. You can't Pavlov a dog and blame the dog for drooling
Yeah, plus, my attitude toward participation awards (like when I got them from swim team) was "I don't want your garbage/don't patronize me."
@@PhoenixRising87 I never took those things seriously even as a kid. To me, they were weren't awards but something that said, "you didn't win anything, so here" or "this is something to say you were there"
I don't feel like I know anyone who ever took these seriously, they usually ended up in the trash. If anything I feel like it made it hard to distinguish recognition for a real accomplishment and patronizing recognition.
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@@Vincisomething I've always been really perfectionistic, so I did take those seriously.
@@PhoenixRising87 I was too, but the trophies didn't really let me know I was better at something. They were just... there
Every generation thinks they're more intelligent than the last and wiser than the next.
I am being humble when I am telling you that I am the most powerful strongest coolest smartest most famous greatest funniest TH-camr of all time! That's the reason I have multiple girlfriends and I show them off on my ch*nnel all the time! Bye bye 00
They are. Or we would be still living in caves.
It's kind of funny because while you're in the youngest generation, you'll agree with this and when you're older, you still might but you'll also have met plenty of younger people that make you think "We were definitely not this bad" when you clearly were, lol. At least that's what has happened to me.
Lol please make sure to quote the right person who said this, I believe it was George Oswell?? Sometjing like that, but dont make it seem like u came up with it xd
@@arip172 Good Point, I do think however that has much more to do with the accumulation of knowledge then it has with intelligence. The average IQ score within the test system has actually begun to drop, which is tragic because the average is exactly what the test is evaluated off of, meaning that IQ test were much harder then they are now, but do not result in higher scores. Which probably has to do with media and consumerism - the dopamine responses change brain structure.
Don't fall for the Millennials vs Gen Z thing people. It's the new bait. We need to stand strong. The world is changing, it was not made for either of us.
Indeed.
Agreed.
@Shlomo Shekelberg
Exactly. I feel the same.
No one should fall for the millennials vs gen z thing, they shouldn't fall for the thing with gen x either. That allows geriatric oligarchs to seize more power. Most of what is owned in the U.S. now is by people over 70 years old.
I really don't hate the gen z. we all just too depressed. be depressed together ❤
"You gave us participation trophies then made fun of us for having them," -Damien Haas. Every problem that older generations blames millenials and Gen z for was started by them.
Boomers = "Never My Fault" in the form of a generation.
@@PhoenixRising87 To be fair, a lot of it was Gen X, not technically the boomers. But yeah.
@@thatnerdylady6264 Genx brought up Genz. Boomers brought up Millennials.
I got in an argument with my dad once about milenials and Gen Z. He said "you got so many participation trophies, you don't know how to loose" and I said "And whose fault is that?! You gave us those trophies and the phones, and the get out of jail free card and now you complain?? You don't get to complain about something you created..." the fight ended there.
There you go not accepting responsibility again
When Boomers were in their 20s, they could pay off their student debt, buy a home, and have a family off a college degree and a minimum wage job.
We Millennials struggle to do even a fraction of all that without being screwed. We aren’t asking for some luxurious life full of mansions or diamonds. We just want a chance to live.
Ignore what boomers tell you and just find a way to make a living as you do what gives you fulfillment. Once the boomers are too old to keep running society, we'll finally have a chance to correct course.
Skip college, start a company and go to work. Who cares how easy the last generation had it.
Also one of the reasons a lot of those people still live with their parents, is because they can't afford a place of their own.
Yeah, for boomers money just fell off the tree. No, it was never that easy. Do not believe every documentary you watch.
@Avi Harris it can be done with the right plan of attack and the right work ethic which most millennials lack.
the whole “entitle and feel like their owed success” is funny because our parents literally didn’t go to college and got better salaries and promotions. sorry you raised us to expect what you got but then we had ✨ no equivalent opportunities ✨ after getting that college piece of paper
As an elder millennial (pushing 40) it's amazing how GenZ aged actors are still pushing all the millennial tropes. A lot of the complaining I hear is that we don't work hard enough (I usually heard this one when I was working 3 jobs so I could go back to school to get a job that wouldn't require additional jobs) and that we're stupid for not "just buying a house" (I hear that one from boomers while sitting in a neighborhood where houses cost a minimum of 3mil). There are more opportunities, but they have become so much harder to take advantage of. I never expected to just walk into an amazing job, but even low level stuff was blocked by people at the top who wouldn't retire. I try not to inhabit the bitter barn as I watch my over educated and underemployed friends struggle to make rent in a housing market that wants to make them homeless while our parents talk about how stupid and entitled we are.
AMEN I am a younger millennial (Almost gen Z) but I agree, I even saw this very interseting break down of all the generations and eventhough people think we are the most narcissistic generation its actually baby boomers, and we millenials and all our problems are simply the by product of decades of selfish me first thinking, masked under a self invented rethoric about how they worked themselfs up from nothing when in fact they were the generation with the most easy excess to oppertunity, we got better education but it stopped there, millenials were often raised within a construct that told them that they had to be amazing at everything and that being avarage isn't an option,
They hate to admit this, but being avarage was the norm for them, it was expected to finish college get a job, and get married and have childeren. But not the have this highly succesful carreer to stand out or be amazing no, just finish school get a job, start your adult life, the end. Back then if you had a degree a job was almost garenteed, however today thats not the case you almost have to be perfect to get a normal, basic job, it crazy how many years of experiance they want people to have eventhough, its a starter position and its targeted towards people that just finished colleg, like the amount of internships and cv building things we have to do now just simply didn't exist back then.
So that also explains why so many millennials try to start busnisses with out a good or proper plan, ( It's out this deep need of approval, to show others we aren't avarage that we haven't failed at life we are somebody) because got forbid, we are medicore nothing is wrong with medicore but we have been fed this rethoric for so long by the most medicore generation of them all...
This is why so many millennials get burned out, because yeah we, (myself included) are expected to work multiple jobs, while still getting straight A's and landing this amazing job all before the age of 25.
In fact we are a extremely hard working generation in a world that has never been this complicated but we get far to little praise we are so much more than the sillyness of social media, we are so much more than avocado toast.
All the focus is put on the dumb things our generations does when in fact every generation does silly and superficial things in there youth ...
Yes social media is also to blame for that in a big part but again this is an evil we didn't create nor fully understood at the time
I wonder what our childeren will be like... I feel every generation fucks up the next due to there own trauma's boomers are narcissistic because major traumatic world events all happend in there early to late childhood, they often had it rough in many ways we did have it easy. (Ofcourse this is on a generalized level but you get it )
Ps: don't mind my spelling since english isn't my first language
@@Itugen88 It helps to have a plan. Me, I'm moving to Texas.
@@Sunflowers_220 really liked the part where you say "being avarage isn't an option," :)
Then youre an exception to the rule, because millennials typically are lazy.
Definitely not overeducated since schools are terrible now and on top of that, millennials typically chose terrible, lazy, highly competitive career paths.
@@-8h- well THATs definitely not true. I’m on the fence between millennial and genz, so any peers that range from a little to a good bit older are millennials. And nearly all of them work their damn asses off. If they seem like they are not, it’s always because of mental and physical health problems, or just straight up exhaustion that’s caused them to give up.
The millennial condition that is explored here is not universal- it reflects the american millennial experience. Participation trophies? Those don’t exist in the rest of the world, the American dream still perpetuates this idea that you can achieve anything simply because you want it. The rest of the world is a lot more cynical
This is a rich American millennial experience. Anybody any where near the poverty line doesn't act like this.
I just queried this same thing... I'm a 31 yo working class British female and many of the comments here didn't apply to me. Some of the tropes vaguely applied to millennials I know. I work with 2 gen x's and find my interests of pop culture and reminiscing about the past to be more similar to them than the 26 yo who also a millennial. 🤷🏻♀️
They invented these labels, it doesn´t apply to the rest of the world, that wouldn't make sense
The millennial trope is based off of people like Lena Dunham who grew up with silver spoons in their mouths and are narcissistic enough to project their experience on an entire generation
We had participation trophies in NZ ..... had a lot of influence from america from 1980 and british influence before 1980
It's also a classist thing. A lot of things boomers promised millennials were shredded to pieces by the wealthiest of their lot.
It could also be said that just as the boomers ignored the wisdom of their war generation parents, so too did they ignore the changing world their millennial children were born into, and thus had no wisdom of their own to offer. It seems that the way you treat your parents is the way you'll treat your children.
Because this "fight" between generation is a waste of time. Its a fight between classes, not generation.
That was Gen X but go ahead and ignore ‘em everyone else does 🙄
@@theguybehindyou4762 depending on which war you mean, also Gen X...
When I was a teen in the 90s in the UK, free university education grants were scrapped by a government full of boomer politicians who had ironically benefitted most from them in the 60s and 70s.
As a Millennial, the most annoying thing about the Millennial hate is the the fact that we're lumped all together and easily written off as if all of us do what people see others in our demographic frequently do. Baby Boomers also love to act like they aren't responsible for how Millennials are and didn't contribute to some of the traits they complain about.
Basically, you lumped all the Baby Boomers together and easily written them off as if all of them do what people see others in their demographic frequently do.
BOOM
@@vins1979 Did every single Boomer and Gen X'er collectively join together to incessantly complain about Millennials? No. But the contempt for that generation originated with you guys and you may want to consider contextualizing your judgments by acknowledging the fantastical life narrative you sold to them as children and the shitty world you subsequently dumped on them.
Same with gen Z tbh...
@@nitewarden "with you guys": oh, I see that you are presupposing I belong to one generation rather than some other one. Very nice. FYI: I didn't sell any fantastical narrative to anyone. Do you even know how old I am? LOL!
The reason why gen-z and millennials have this dynamic is because while the generation before tends to parent the generation after, thats not what happened with these two. Millennial are more likely to be a gen-zer's sibling than they are to be a parent. Gen X gave birth to Millennial and Gen Z so I like to think of it as more of a sibling relationship. It makes more sense that way.
Gen X and Boomers gave birth to millennials. My mom barely missed the Boomer cut off and I am one of the younger millennials (25) when she was pushing 30.
I think millennials have become parents to Gen Z in the manner that we don't gaslight the hell out of them and we take them seriously when Gen Z is being serious.
Boomers and Gen X kinda fall into the idea of a nuclear family's parents but since Millennials were raised with varied family dynamics rather than the two parent households of the past, we have more emotional connectivity to Gen Z. No more of the standoffish parent with strict roles and more of the "you can rely on me but you also see I am a person too" kind of parent.
My parents are both on the older side of boomers. Older millennials have almost exclusively boomer parents while younger millennials have a mixture of boomer and gen x.
Definitely feels that way to me. Most of my siblings are millenials, except for the youngest who is gen Z. Definitely feels like a sibling relationship.
@@kraziiXIII millennial definitely play more of an older sibling role than a parent. With the cool/laidback/mentor attitude it definitely reflects the "cool older sibling" or maybe "cool aunt" stereotype than it does a parent. Mostly because millennials lack the formality to take on a parent role but are great for other types of older figure that gen-z can go to when in need
@@summerpratt6288 idk it may be because I literally raised my 16 year old Gen Z brother but every millennial I know has acted like a parent to their Gen Z siblings; just a more emotionally available one. I'm biased I guess.
The problem is “Millennial” and “spoiled rich kid” are conflated...I’m middle class and Black...so a lot of these tropes wouldn’t be true for me if I tried!
“Selfish, always thinks they’re right, and believes they deserve everything” yeah people claim that’s millennials but ask anyone who works retail and customer service, majority of those people that feel that way are boomers.
Boomers do a ton of projecting, that's a big reason why millennials have such low opinions of themselves.
Amenn i work in customer service and the WORST customers are the Boomers entitled aggressive and they love to throw temper tantrums.
@@theguybehindyou4762 I find, in general, anyone accusing other groups of doing or wanting odious things, are projecting 99% of the time. I typed up a ton of examples but it just bloated my comment to no real end so I deleted them lol. But once you see it it's hard to unsee it, especially in political discourse.
No, a lot of people do. Can't blame em though, theyre right. Our generation is garbage.
@@theguybehindyou4762 this is so true
As a poor millennial, all my life, I find it an incredible slap in the face being called “entitled”.
Also we aren’t saying we want to be well off, we want to be able to survive, if someone has this idea that asking for the minimum is some how asking for the maximum, you’re the problem.
Can we get a 2009 crisis treatment again? That was great, quite amazing wasn't it?
Its a generalization, a stereotype. Doesnt mean all of them are, but a majority of them really are.
@@baubau-t9u Excuse me, hereby I present you...the corona crisis.
Better. Faster. Stronger. than your previous Modell from 2009.
Oh and it comes with more political instability, an unknown length of quarantine and possible illness/death (might not by the illness itself but from domestic violence, depression etc.)
BUT WAIT...There is a bonus, if you are part of a minority. You get to raise you chances of contracting the disease! Not only that but you will also get to protest, treated more unfairly than ever and get used as a scapegoat!
And all this just for the little costs of a few hundred thousands deaths (still collecting) and a few millions destroyed livelihoods.
As a poor, disabled millenial, who have always gave much more than recieved....Being a millenials is just another harmful stereotype that people are desperately trying to squeeze me into in addition to other stereotypes.
Literally
I love how society blames milennials and not the generation that raised them... LOL
Isn't that interesting? I notice that too.
Or society.
The aim of neoliberalism was to destroy society as an institution. It worked.
Boomers raised Millennials.
Right? The Boomers love to bitch about how the Millenials weren't taught sewing and cooking in High School like they were. Like hello the boomers were the teachers
@@SWLinPHX no gen x is after the boomers
Although there are still members of Gen Z that make fun of millennials, I think most of us at this point have the attitude that they're just depressed. Personally, I grew up seeing millennials made fun of, because my parents are almost old enough to be boomers. It's kind of a dead meme at this point. Now they're just the ones we see as depressed and stressed, with a lot of crushed dreams. From what I can tell, they're part of the reason Gen Z is so notoriously cynical about the future.
Yeah. Sorry our generation is such a bummer.
@@Aster_Risk not your fault. You were the victim of the boomers and gen x
I'm not sure if we really are more likely to be depressed... I always thought we were just the first generation to kind of openly talk about it/mental health. but maybe you're right.
I'm a 31 millenial and i have 2 gen Z siblings and i always say that im proud of gen Z cuz just like millenials they care for the environment, more equality, and lots of social values and not only money making, but Gen Z have something millenials don't have, they grew up seeing that this lie of trying to meet your parents expectations and going to college, getting degrees and getting normal jobs wont give them the same opportunities for basic stuff like having enough money to pay bills, buy food and save for retirement. Gen Z are learning very yearly that the old ways dont work anymore and they have enough time to discover other ways to build their lives and not waste all their lives with formal education without economic return like millenials did. In my opinion most of millenials didnt choose fancy careers at all, most of us just choose the same career of our parents or traditional careers like teacher, dentist, lawyer. The truth is that jobs in general pay less and less each generation but require much more education. If I knew I would pay so much to study in a university and make so little money I would have saved the university money and bought a house haha. Gen Z are living in a world that the economic truth is not so disguised by status ideals so they will be much more clever with their future.
Ironically they’re making fun of stereotypes that boomers created because they’re bullies. Every millenial I know ya be a is pretty emotionally intelligent even if they are depressed. So if anything we normalized talking openly about mental illness.
we were told that if we worked hard and studied our life would be fine. Which wasn't true
in what areas independantly?
I think we neeed to work harder than ever before
@@obinnaiwudike7644 Yeah, that's become apparent. But the lie that boomers told us was that we could have everything they did and then some if we worked harder than they had. So we did. We buckled down. We went to school, were a lot more responsible than boomers in their youth (just read a history of what they were like) only to get shit on as soon as we entered the job market and lectured in the bargain.
Patience is a virtue
Yes and then they tell us we want everything so fast yet they were able to have “it all” in their late 20s. And if we don’t have it that fast it is because we ‘don’t work hard enough’ and ‘not trying enough’ and have to be ‘patient’. But till when?
Yes if you’re a lawyer or a doctor or a business from Harvard you have the best future in the world and good money that’s a fact but if you’re just doing odds job life becomes hard 9 to5
From a Gen Z'er, I'd like to thank the Millenials for all their work in civil rights, mental health advocacy, and many other important issues. You were dealt a bad hand yet you kept going. My hand isn't great either but it comforts me that the Millenials survived and made the world a bit better. I just hope that Gen Z and Millenials can team up and rise up against the Boomers in power who put us in this mess.
Yes! Thats the truth both generations were shat on and if we work together we can make some good stuff happen! Lets keep up the intergenerational solidarity!👏👏
THANK YOUUUUUUU! We need more people with your mindset!
as someone who's exactly in between both generations that was what I was thinking too! Let us defy those generational conflicts and work as a team - so maybe our future together and that of our children will be a bit brighter/easier.
I thought Gen Zers hated Millenials?
I'm a millennial and millennials were NOT dealt a bad hand, we're just extremely talented at convincing others so. Take for example the cost of housing, one of millennials' favorite complaints. Its true housing is more expensive today than in 1970, relative to salary, but most people also lived in generally smaller homes with fewer bedrooms/bathrooms and no garage. Some homes didn't even have air conditioning. There are also 130 million more people in the US today, but the same amount of land as in 1970. Most millennials just hear they're in a worse shape compared to previous generations, and they want to believe it so they amplify it over social media. Reality is the statistics are almost always twisted into their favor.
Honestly, generationally it feels so rough to be roasted by Gen Z. It's like duuuuude, can't we get a break? For once? Like literally society has been collapsing around us at every point in our life; it would mess you up too if there was no one before you acknowledging how fucked up everything is! At least Gen Z doesn't get Millennials telling them that there problems aren't serious and will go away. I think that our two generations will work better together once the current youngest generation gets older. Also I think we care more about humanity as a whole than previous generations so we aren't throw each other under the bus of time and climate change.
In my experience, Gez Z and Millennials have way more solidarity than the video implies. Other people in this comment section said that media depictions of Gen Z kids are mostly projections of Gen-Xers still trying to stick it to the youths of today, and that seems reasonable to me.
terrible how ppl just clash instead of trying to work together/understand/connect
RIGHT I thought they were on our side! lolol I mean...I can understand to some extent them just thinking we're old and uncool, but I didn't think they would join in on the Millennial-bashing. What a betrayal.
As someone from Gen Z, I’ll remind you that we have never lived in a world before 9/11 and so straight out we have always lived in a world of fear and mistrust that you guys were thrust into. While you all had to experience it firsthand on the news and shit, we only came into existence around it and do not know any different. All the traumatic stuff you guys had in your adolescence, teen and college years we had in our middle childhoods and we are experiencing our second recession in ten years fewer than you guys.
The reason that some Gen Z dislike millennials is because of the constant whinging. And the thing is, the people around my age who don’t dislike millennials only tolerate them
@@liapalmer381 To be fair, I'm a lower millennial so I feel very similarly to you about living in a world consumed by fear (altho for me it happened when i was in elementary school). Gen Z disillusionment is understandable (from seeing how things are turning out without them happening in adulthood yet), as is Millennial whining (from constantly being blindsided by tragedies and getting the rug ripped out under from you every time you stand up). It's all bitterness and frustration expressed in different forms acted differently given their circumstances makes sense. I'm just saying it's sad (the Gen Z dislike for Millennials) given that we've all been screwed over by the past generations. At least we (collectively Gen Z + Millennials) are trying to do something about it to prevent it from happening again now and in the future. Anyways I'm clearly sensitive about all of this but I'm trying not to take it to heart, because it does make me sad to think that the younger folks I feel in solidarity with only tolerate people in my gen. However someone earlier pointed out that media portrayals of it are written by Gen Xers projecting their gripes with Millennials, so at least that much is reassuring.
I'm not even a Millennial, I'm a Gen Zer, but it's so stupid how we continue to recycle these obsolete stereotypes about generations like we've done since the stone age. The previous generation always thinks the one that's after it is worse, entitled, weak in some way and that they had it hard, and they're the ones in the right, but that's just not true. While your generation will affect your personality, it doesn't mean that all people in a generation are the same - rather that they've lived through the same historical events at a certain age.
And let's be honest, Millennials are not lucky. Sure, Millennials and Gen Z get the internet, but we also get unsupervised internet access leading to predators and misinformation and traumatic experiences, young adult Millennials and Gen Z kids lived through the economical crisis just a few years ago and are living through another one now, no matter how much education and how many degrees we have it's not enough, our planet is dying and most of us don't fit into society's rigid structure anymore. I thought the whole point was to leave the world a better place than when you came into it, not shit on your kids for not being miserable (even though we are.)
let's strive to break the cycle and achieve generational solidarity. Gen Z are some good eggs
i gotta say as a millennial I don't get some of the Gen Z fashion but then maybe some Gen X and Boomer were saying the same thing about ours
@@oooh19 That's pretty much where my bad opinions about gen Z end.
I don't get the fashions, I miss some of the trends, but fuck it: let people like what they like, it's not like it negatively impacts my life.
Overall I don't have any *real* complaints about Z. They seem like great people who are just as into trying to un-fuck the planet as we are.
I don't know, maybe the lack of animosity comes from a feeling like we're in the same garbage fire together. Neither of us started the fire (that dubious honour goes to the boomers who can go right into the sin bin), but both of us have to live with it. If anything I'd be saying Z is a bit worse off-what with increased school shootings and the general....this.
Same overall feeling of "everything is terrible" but with an added dash of a higher chance of a more personal tragedy. Whee.
At the end of the day I think it's just that for Millennials and Z, we're the first two generations who are facing a different type of everything being terrible. All throughout the rest of human history (much of it undeniably awful), during bad times you could still at least rely on "this too shall pass". The idea that one day, if you can survive long enough, things *will* get better, if not for you, than for your descendants. This is no longer the case. We now get to stare down the barrel of things getting worse unless we stop it. And that sucks.
Yeah intergenerational friendships and unity!
@@mafiacat88 where I like the sentiment, I'm not sure about what the "this too shall pass" actually means. In the sense that making the world better for the next generation, at least in terms of technology is relative new thing, at least in the understanding of people. the senses that the world is changing is a modern
phenomenon. not new I grant you but in the stone age, they didn't have any reason to think that the next generation would have it better. the world changed fso slowly that it wasn't apparent that it did. if this is just random noise to you, I'm sorry. it's just a different perspective on things.
I'm a Gen Xer born in the early 70s who has never found Millennials to be anything less than inspirational. I'm glad to see so many people fighting back against all the Millennial tropes.
Doesn't matter, the elder side of gen X (those that are closer to the age of boomers) and boomers burnt us and they keep burning up to validate their own ego and from what I see they started to move on at the next not one but two generations after us the last couple of years
Ty 😅 we appreciate 🙏 whatever help we can get these days but I don't blame others for being angry LOL XD 😆 🤣
I'm still surprised no story tellers have talked yet about the trauma of being raised by dysfunctional hippie boomers. That may sound funny, but when you grow as a child:
- without structure or support and neglectful
- with parents who argue and yell constantly about money to make ends
-- tells you "everything is possible if you work hard for it"
-- alcoholism issues
-- domestic violence
-- magical thinking that everyone else will solve their problems
-- throw their money problems on me when I'm an adult
-- teach me nothing because I'm too "stressful"
As a growing millennial with dysfunctional boomer parents, I had to form my very own identity from the ground up and explore what I would want to be and how I would fit in this world because I didn't knew the limits of myself and the only thing I was thought was to figure it out on my own and being extremely self reliant and resilient, without being able to form meaningful and long term connections because my default was going into relationships that were extremely toxic.
My younger millennial brother fell into drugs and alcohol and has recovered, but he still had to figure out lots of stuff on his own too. He was abused by many friendships he formed and him too struggled to figure out boundaries and how to make a life without being dragged down by others.
We, my brother and I, as millennials, are actively trying to break this non sense cycle my boomer parents learned from their own and it's exhausting to put an end to this. It's just so much to figure out yourself, your place in a society changing fast, and then breaking the trauma cycle. My gen X brother didn't bother trying he burried himself alone and we haven't been hearing about him for almost a decade. I can't blame him.
So whenever I hear people saying millennials are entitled and annoying, I want to scream my pain and rage out there. I was conditioned to be an easy child by parents who didn't know how to handle children emotional needs. I've been denied attention because I was too "stressful", too "annoying", or downright humiliated when in a crisis. The only state I was accepted and loved when I was happy and joyful.
If you think I'm annoying for expressing myself, don't forget I've been denied a voice or needs for so long.
THIS^
Absolutely! While our parents may have provided financially, they were horrible in the emotional support department. They were absolutely emotionally abusive, volatile, and impatient.
could not agree more!
So true! And there are a huge amount of narcissistic Boomers who abuse their children, and who have left them with no savings to start of their young adult life. Them spent all the money on themselves. A lot of millenials have trauma from being brought up in an emotionally abusive environment thay couldn't escape from which was further delayed by there not really being a lot of jobs for them to gain financial independence either
They will look back fondly on our reluctancy to continue the cycle of just having kids simply because its "our time." But god forbid we even say that because we'd be being Naracistic. My point is we are the first generation to admit we were't alright because people who were unprepared to be parents had kids simply to buckle to their parents/societal expectations. We know better. Sad parts is the people who are breeding are the backwood Trumpy idiots who are repeating their parents mistakes regardless if they think they'll be good parents or even if they could afford it, people who made mistakes (unplanned children), and the rich. Which terrifies me, but thank god I'll be dead.
I'm surprised this didn't touch on the fact that we are absolutely buried in student loan debt. I've never bought a new car, I doubt I'll ever own my own home, and yet they call us privileged and entitled. Most of us are just scraping by.
I never understood the “pay their dues” line we fed others. Don’t previous generations work hard so that their kids don’t have to struggle the same? I am on the cusp of millennial/ Gen X and I don’t want my kids to have to struggle like I do, I just want them to have a happy life.
True, but then there becomes the generational envy about someone potentially having something that they worked for. Like "I worked to pay my way through college, why should they get it for free" but my dad explained that college was cheap enough that even for a good school he just had to work part time hours over the summer and would have plenty plus extra. That generation could just buy a car our house because cars cost a whole lot less, and there were literally programs to basically give away homes for nothing (which then typically go up in value so you sell it to buy a better oe, and on and on...), so they expect us to do the same without those programs and much higher prices, and if we don't we're lazy. Not to mention how so many jobs require more work now, yet we get paid for that work for the same amount they did, but not including inflation or cost of living, thus we get paid less. Not to mention all the unpaid internships and otherwise unpaid labor ("exposure" doesn't mean I can eat, susan). But asking for more, aka equal to what they got, means we're entitled. The jobs we do to get by are looked down on and seen as undeserving of a living wage, even if they're extremely taxing both physically and mentally/emotionally. Because they didn't get hand outs- except they did- so why do we deserve better than what they got? Even if it was supposed to make things easier for younger generations, but then oh no can't have that. Boomers and their so called logic and common sense about our "entitlement" makes no god damn sense.
What bugged me about that line is its wrong. Millennials did more hours of home work in high school, were more likely to have a secondary job or an extra curricular, were more likely to apply to university, studied more in unviersity and worked more hours on the side, applied for more jobs after and worked more hours, and got less. Millennials paid mroe dues then boomers or gen x at their age and got less.
All generations will struggle. And protecting us from struggle as kids and wanting us to just have a happy life is what makes so many of the younger generations (millenials and genz) have so low levels of tolerance to hardships and stress, and why we have so many mental health problems.
You should teach your children that life is unfair, and hard, and that they can fight to make it better but sometimes no matter how hard you work life can be really painful. That's the only way (in my opinion) for kids to end up having a happy life.
Yeah. I think a similar situation is like (not all but a lot of my friends have experienced it and it's weird - and others too), when parents say they want their kids to have a better education, and they work hard, and then when they share stuff they learnt or like (not even unsolicited or anything, it'll be relevant to situations), or talk a bit different ect, they get punished for it or treated badly. 🙃 Like your kids respect you still man, chill. You've got so much life experience, different experiences and skills ...they just now are starting/have built a few of their own. And it's not like their elders stop or have to stop acquiring skills. Idk man. But yeah, that example came to my mind reading your comment. There's a big age gap with some of my family, and I've observed this tension and experienced it a bit myself: who are born in the 80s with parents born in the 50s, where there's weird put downs or tension with the 80s lot knowing other things?? Weird tbh
@@Ignasimp I agree to an extent with what you're saying. But allowing too much - or not helping/protecting isn't good either imo. Purpose of parent/s/guardian/s right? But yeah - somewhat agree. Anticipating struggles and learning to deal with them, failure and regrets as well as success is important. But don't want to traumatise kids so they burn out/have mental health problems that way. Also, the disagree bit for me is that idk if it'll make them happy, but it will prepare them for life and maybe content? 🤔
This reminds me of headlines saying how millennials are “killing off _____ industry.” While older generations criticize millennials for not keeping whatever industry they love afloat, it’s also up to the industry to adapt to modern society and its consumers.
Yes, some might say it sucks that restaurants like Applebee’s aren’t getting as much business as they used to, and people aren’t buying enough fabric softener. But if these businesses aren’t catering to people’s needs or are considered as unnecessary/frivolous/mediocre, then they’re going to see less profits.
In a rapidly changing society, it’s harder for millennials and gen Z to get an affordable education, find a fulfilling career, and/or build a family compared to older generations. Younger people don’t have as much money to spend as older people, so of course they’re going to be more frugal in their spending habits. Millennials aren’t killing off these industries for fun, they’re doing it to survive.
My favorite headline was "Do Millenials Even Eat?"
Where they complained that we weren't eating out as often, or eating in as often. As if we were going periodically hungry just to spite them, rather than just being poor.
I think the funniest one is that we’re killing the diamond industry. You mean we don’t make enough to buy shiny, useless, very common rocks that are part of a horrendously cruel industry? When we could spend far less on polished glass that looks the same, and have money left to pay rent? Wow. How, um, awful of us?
@@katherinemorelle7115 It so entitled not to support the use of child labor and an inherently exploitative system. How dare we not fall for lies?!?!?!
Eating a fancy restaurant is a privilege, and that goes to show you that Boomers, who grew up in economic prosperity in the 1950s and 1960s, actually had it quite nice.
@@GenerationNextNextNext bUt ThEy WoRkED fOR wHaT tHeY gOt.
The reason we may come across as "not growing up" is because we literally cannot financially because of the recessions, bad job market, student debt, wars, etc. I cannot responsibly afford a house or a child, so no, I guess I'm not "growing up."
Also, maybe we come across as annoying but you can't deny that we've been calling out previous generations' racist, sexist, immoral, big business misbehavior and I hope this helps the coming generations.
Love this comment 👍
Yuuuuup
you think the status symbols are where the critique comes from? I've always felt it was affect... including "calling out" behavior bc it comes as a form of... well it seems to be done in a way to increase social capital since there is an absence of actual capital. that's my gen x view of the critique on millennials. I hear you tho
lemme tell you as a Gen Z, you guys being so loudly against racism, homophobia, pro self love has shaped my own view. I feel like because you guys can live so freely despite the older generations dissing y'all I can embrace myself better and continue to fight to the good fight.
@@jusletursoulglobaby but marriage, owning a home, kids, aren’t just “status symbols”, they’re often regarded as rites of passage. Rites that have been denied to many of my generation, because we simply can’t afford it. If you regard adulthood as being financially stable, owning a home, having a career, having kids... a lot of millennials aren’t adults.
As a millenial from a third world country, I don't identify with this stereotype at all lol.. On the contrary, I have been bullied for two years by some X gen coworkers that I have, who go as far as stealing/hiding things from my office. So I don't think maturity and accountability is a matter of age or generation.
You guys should do the “two guys and a girl trope” (don’t know what’s that called lol)
It’s usually a white guy, a poc guy and usually a white girl. The white guy and girl fall in love and the the other guy is usually the comedy relief or creates a love triangle.
Yesss this! There are SO MANY examples of this and it would be a great trope to analyze. Especially since the POC guy is shown as genuinely sweet and sensitive to the girl and would have been a healthier choice overall.
And how even though the non white guy is usually better and treats her right she'll pick the white guy
@Jaime Paiva how is that toxic or problematic?
Yes, I abhor that the person of colour is used as a sidekick, while the white people are the main focus. Lizzie Macguire did something similar, with white Gordo and Lizzie eventually ending up together, while Latina Miranda is still single by the end.
@@user-jo9pm8fd8g I think they were referring to women who choose male friends because they think they can't be friends with other women or they say, "other women are too much drama"
This may sound very millennial of me, but I never got a participation trophy and I'm feeling left out.
A lot of us actually didn't get participation trophies.
You're not missing out 😂
Did you never have student of the week in school?
Me too.... Never
And I’m an Xer who received TONS of them! That particular “complaint” is so shallow and has been around before Millennials, but they seem unfairly tied to it. Then again, I’m biased, I think Millennials rock. I also love Gen Z.
I rarely see this trope in real life, it's mostly the older generation that act entitled. Often rude and insensitive to others.
Are people aware how old the older Millenials are at this point? The YOUNGEST Millenials/oldest Gen Z are university age! And Gen X is going towards retirement.
Being that most people seem to retire in their mid to late 60s, and Gen X are those born from 1965 - 1980, according to the American source the Pew Research Center; which means Gen X still has a good 9+ years until they could start to retire. In 2021, Gen X would be turning/turned age 41 - 56. Being that Pew Research Center is an American source and the names of generations were given by American researchers based events (foreign and domestic) this would be a reliable source. According to the same source:
Generation "Gen" Y/Millennials are born in the years 1981 - 1996 (age 25 - 40 in 2021).
Generation "Gen" Z are those born in the years 1997 - 2012 (age 9 - 24 in 2021)
Baby Boomers are those born in the years 1946 - 1964 (age 57 - 75 in 2021)
Silent Generation are those born in the years 1928 - 1945 (age 76 - 93 in 2021).
A few other generations are:
The Lost Generation/WWI Generation, which are those born in the years 1883 - 1900
The Greatest Generation/WWII Generation are those born in the years 1901 - 1927 (some of which are still alive today)
Generation "Gen" Alpha would be those born from 2013 until the late 2020s/early 2030s (the children of Millennials and possibly at times, the oldest of Gen Z)
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“Gen X is going towards retirement”.
I wish! We have at least another decade to go. At the very least. If any of us can afford to retire when the time comes in the first place.
I feel like they need to break up the generations more
@@archer1949 Exactly what I said.
@@genesismarie92 What do you mean?
The thing that frustrates me most about the millennial hate is when people use the word millennial to signify 'anyone younger than me that I don't agree with or understand'. We aren't children anymore.
Fun fact: "Generation snowflake," though ususally meant to refer to millennials, was first used in 2017 to describe college students, so would be Gen Z. Aside from it being a stupid political insult from Fox, it shows how it actually has nothing to do with the generation itself
Never forget: Every criticism oh Millennials
Is a projection of the failures, problems and envy of the older generations.
They’re so mad that Millennials refuse to be played the same way they did and waste their lives being slaves to their jobs and listening to the lies of the “American dream” 💀
@Kay A then nothing's special about earlier generations either
@@aidan9656 Got news for you. If you are not part of the upper 1%, you are a slave to society and how it works. You may not know that now, but soon you will learn. Want to change things? Start anytime, we are all waiting for this generation to take on some cause besides their own.
"Jealousy can make anyone arrogant" fLex
“They try to fit in with the younger generation but they’re not the younger generation anymore.” That’s so true. Even older generations confused millennials with gen z for a long time because of this.
Im at a point were i dont care what age you are. If we vibing we vibing!
Right! The oldest millennials are damn near 40 now. Now I'm not saying that's old, but it certainly is not the same as late teens/early twenties.
@@romanr.301 late teens wouldnt be millennials they're gen z. late 20s early 30s are millennials we grew up in the 90s
But that is because it is easy to get stuck. If you find yourself at your early 30s without a steady job, the option to access permanent housing, the stability to form a family, isn’t it normal to feel like you have more in common with people in their 20s than people in their 40s?
Its "arrested development", not "trying to fit in".
Could you guys do a take on Asians or Native American tropes in American media? I'd love to see something like that!
Likewise, I'd love to see them tackle the Native American trope, and how they're normally depicted in media! 🥰
I have, thanks, but I am pretty passionate about Asian American representation in the US. They did a video on black stereotypes and I thought they'd do the same for Asians, Native Americans, and Hispanics.
They haven't done a native american one yet, (Which sucks because I am native american and would love it), but they did do an Asian one. I think the title is Model Minority.
There are no Native American tropes because you rarely see them on television or in movies
@@djervalevy9784 Yeah, we are the forgotten Minority. I mean, 1,500 indigenous women have gone missing or been murdered in the past year, and when was the last time you heard about that on the news. Oh wait, it hasn't ever been on the news.
I'm sorry that the other generations are so jealous of me, but I can't help that I'm popular
Hey, how about a "american character" as a trope? You'd be amazed how those stories are, well, strictly american and really not relatable for the rest of the world often
Amen... Like I often think of them as the Western Fantasy, the stories that I read on Wattpad and the like... Loud, Vulgar, Free with hidden self-biased agenda if they're working for the government. Always thinking For America, by America, We are Big Mighty, King-of-the-world, never tried junkyard collecting for the poorest-pure-blood Americans...
As an USian, I really like the idea of a "who do you think you are?" kind of call out. They might need more distanced perspective, though.
I guess it could be argued, though, that most of these are fragments of the overall USian identity, but I think a deep dive into anyone considering themselves patriotic to the US could be interesting. Very dicey, though. Gonna ruffle the feathers of many people (who can go f*ck themselves lol).
@@JinxWilson Sorry😅, but that's how some of us from the Philippines did see the Americans. Heck, that was what I picked up from media and news... Admirable at some points, novel, sometimes hypocritical at some areas, Noble at some points, self-serving at best and quite "out there" at objective distant look...
@@chunellemariavictoriaespan8752 don't be sorry. A lot of us need a wake-up call (the ones I was saying who could go f*ck themselves esp) and maybe a deep dive into patriotism etc could help bridge that gap of understanding
There's a long history of bashing the youth, going back as far as Plato.
hahahahahahaha...
@@chunellemariavictoriaespan8752 what's that supposed to mean?
@@sammyvictors2603 Me laughing at the statement in agreement...
It all boils down to - we were the last generation to be fed how life was going to be if we only did "xyz" (namely go to college, get any kind of degree, start at the bottom, work our way up, buy a house, have 2.5 kids and 1 dog and a fenced in yard for our dog), and when we did it, we all found out it was all lies. Instead we were met with a crumbling economy, multiple wars, school shootings, the internet booming, paying into a social security fund we know damn well won't be available for us because we will all retire when we're 105 years old, watching more and more people become homeless, and watching our kids drink lead in their water.
But at least we grew up with some awesome rock music.
Lol no. I'm 28, first generation American and retired.
If you'd stop thinking like this and blaming someone else you'd be able to turn it around for yourself. It's not easy and requires a lot of work. For sure. Some start ahead of the pack financially and some start at the back.
I literally just posted this in another thread.
@@jfri92 'People are becoming homeless at an unprecedented rate'
'no, because I retired early.'
Wow. Big brain right here. I guess the homeless rate isn't increasing after all, because some rando says he retired at 28. Okay, boomer.
@@InternetMameluq I said I was 28 and you call me a boomer. Congratulations, you're an idiot. Talk about "BiG bRaIn TiMe."
Interesting take there. Seeing as how I was replying to the "we wont retire until we are 105 years old" comment and then you decided to get offended and throw in something about homelessness which I wasn't talking about. So that's cool, I guess.
Anything else you'd like to be "woke" about?
@@jfri92 It was ironic. And I like how you didn't respond to anything in my post except the obvious joke.
Millenials are the elder sibling and Gen Z is like the younger sibling. That’s the analogy I can draw.
Basically
literally in my case
yes, me.
I want to see the art
The older sibling gets targeted by the parents and the rest of the family, paving the way, and until the younger sibling is old enough won’t realize what they’ve done for them.
Millennials really paved the way for younger generations especially when it comes to body positivity, breaking social norms and social media
yea but now there are just different social norms. norms are sometimes a positive thing. also body positivity isnt 100 %; there's still fat shaming and now thin shaming is added to that list.
Preach!
Every generation has a group of people breaking social norms so this isn’t a novel thing.
lol "breaking social norms" isn't a new thing at all
When the Boomers were teens and twenties we acted like Millennials today. So did gen X and Y. In our day we expected a job for life. It's called being young.😂🤣
Mind you kids are arseholes today.👅
“Millennials got too many participation trophies,” said the generation that gave them too many participation trophies
@@Danny-jl2sd we had to run the mile every year in elementary school and there were special ribbons for 1st 2nd and 3rd place and then everyone else got participation ribbons and we all through them away because we knew they were meaningless garbage.
"You're a brat!" - My boomer parents
Just a reminder that the American experience is not a universal experience! Love this channel
and the well-to-do american experience is not universally american.
its sad that they have to even say that to americans lol
It's definitely a north American experience, not a South American experience
Thank you!!
well, it's definitely an american channel so what can we expect lmao
As a millennial , I think we were the "transition " generation from Baby boomers (old world) to Generation Z (new technological world) , and that make us have a sense of being lost in the world and uncertainty in ourselves.
No, Gen X is that transition generation
@@edienandy all generations are transition generations.
I kinda agree
I feel like I got to see technology evolve as I grew up. From flip phones(when I was a little girl) to smart phones and social media (when I was a teen)
I kinda agree
I feel like I got to see technology evolve as I grew up. From flip phones(when I was a little girl) to smart phones and social media (when I was a teen)
I feel seen. Thank you!
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"expect a raise every 2 years"
I find it funny because not that I "expect" it, just that price of living goes up every year. Cost increases (even when no changes have occured) are supposedly natural, so labor cost increases should just be natural as well.
Probably because the movies was made by boomers
Good point. LOL
Boomers who are just mad that their millennial kids cut contact with them and hate them now
@@mynameisreallycool1 and they mad cos everything's so easy now, unlike everything back those days
@@mynameisreallycool1 That's the gag
Someone had to say this 👀
And imagine...the generations that criticize us the most are those that directly contributed to the hostile conditions we are attempting to live and even thrive in. It’s like tripping your child, causing them to skin their knee and yelling at them for saying that they’re hurt. Things aren’t what they used to be and so many of us millennials are still finding our way. I believe that is resilience ❤️
Because it is.
The world our parent grew up in doesn't exist anymore, yet they somehow think that we should do the exact same things they did.
Boomer parents, in general, raised their Millennial kids to believe if they worked hard and followed the rules they could achieve whatever they wanted. Boomers then trashed the world and made all those rules meaningless, and turned around and criticized Millennials for not following rules that no longer worked/existed and daring to be angry about it. What makes Millennials unique is that we were raised for a social structure that stopped existing right as many of us hit adulthood and we had to figure out on the fly how to adjust, while Boomers/Gen X and Gen Z on either side had at least some form of consistent socio-economic definition.
I thought most of our parents were Gen X.
@@Takisan111 Younger Millennials have Gen X parents, but older Millennials have young Boomer parents.
@@Takisan111 and Gen X which are your older brothers in many ways are CRUSHING IT in thesame business environment you wastrels constantly cry its impossible to succeed. Its very much possible and social mobility is higher now than it was 20 years ago, except a lazy millenial will never have the work ethic to succeed.
@@Takisan111 I’m a young Millennials (95)
My mom is a boomer and my dad is a cusper
Honestly, I don’t think Gen Z has it that much better than millennials. A major recession is coming and some of the same problems millennials had when they reached adulthood are still here
Most of the comments I read are accurate and true in that: 1. WE never asked for participation trophies. Our parents (not mine but generally speaking) wanted to feel better about themselves and demanded symbols of good parenting. "I'm raising a winner" kind of BS. It shows in that "Karen" is a mainstream term and acknowledged by everyone 2. Older generations have hated younger generations throughout time so it's really just par for the course. What I find most interesting is that "Millennials" is just a stand in for kids these days. The youngest of us are mid 20's and the oldest are almost 40. We're definitely not the intended target of spite but our name rolls off the tongue easier than Gen Z. Lastly, MOST of these examples are made in a white person's point of view. I most of the people I know are nothing like this (white friends included). Most of us just want to make enough money to support ourselves, as adults, on our own. Not having the ability to be a "responsible adult" and be independent, leaves us in a suspended state of adolescence/young adulthood which we in turn embrace as it allows us the a space to enjoy the little bit of life we can actually afford. (I.e video games, cartoons/anime, drinking/drugs as escapism, etc)
Agree with you💯
wages and salaries stay down but inflation goes up (costs/prices etc) and yet they say if you give this up you can afford this but that's not how it works
what about all the bullying? many bullies get away w/ it and continue doing so as adults though some outgrow it
Definitely, 100%. Especially because access to those forms of media is one of the things that's arguably gone DOWN in price while all the other stuff you listed has gone up. Netflix, and cheap games on Steam, and pirated anime and movies. They're not luxury goods anymore, so of course we're going to indulge the crap in them.
How is it a white persons point of view? Lol, it has nothing to do with skin colour, its the location. Thats a racist generalization.
And you're right, we never asked for participation trophies, we created them. Every comment trying to blame other people for our problems is the exact reason why we have these stereotypes about us. Refusing to take responsibility for anything, cant take negative criticism.. hm, sounds pretty entitled to me.
Gen z people who mock millennials for no reason, need to calm down and use their angst to motivate themselves to be better. I say this as a Gen z teenager.
Millennials who are offended by teenagers making harmless jokes need to get over themselves and work on their own insecurities.
as a gen z I've always honestly supported them, but like millennials randomly started to hate on gen z out of no where, and their reasons are always identical to the reasons that they were hated for. maybe coz people stopped giving them attention, idk, but that was pretty weird.
@@Haittavero Once you're older you'll realize that making jokes at the expense of other people (especially if you know someone is insecure about what you're making fun of) is a sign of childhood.
Honestly they're teens and teens always do that to the generation before them. They make fun of us but then revive all our past trends. Just try to think of them as the annoying little sister who points out stuff that you don't want to hear but secretly tries to be like you. And honestly at the end of the day they have taught me to be more self aware. Like truly I NEEDED to hear that liking harry potter isn't a personality trait lmao If your gonna be mad, be mad at the generation of our parents that raised us to be the way we are and somehow still manages to shift the blame on us for ending up like this. Gen z will grow up soon and be picked on by our kids lmao
@@dropdeadxhorizon exactly. There were a bunch of Gen Zers who were trying to claim Robert Pattinson as someone "born in the wrong generation". The man could be some of Gen Z's father. Like. It just makes me confused.
As a Gen Xer, it’s weird how we were sort of skipped over in the whole “hate on young people” thing. We were also called the slacker generation, maybe we were just too laid back to be annoying, lol. For whatever reason, we all just went straight to hating on millennials. But take heart, soon it will be their turn to hate on Gen Z.
I'll only hate gen z if they become like us millennials. As long as they're making an honest effort to avoid the mistakes of prior generations, they got my respect.
I mean gen z already make fun of boomers so idk if they are gonna hate on us and you guys(malainilas)don’t seem to be the type to hate on us cause you guys have been hated on already so i don’t we are gonna get hate
@@Ruby-dc3wp Elders should appreciate the differences in new generations in order to better assist them into becoming productive, upstanding citizens which in turn benefits both parties in the long run.
Every other generation seems to fly under the radar, like the Silent Generation, Gen-X, etc.
No, trust me, people hated gen x
Every generation gets mocked. We're not special. 😂
Every generation waits for the opportunity to influence society for the better (as they perceive). Millennials obsess over social media to expand their sphere of influence before they have enough experience to know what is truly helpful for society.
@@rhythmoriented What are you talking about?
@@rhythmoriented wait till gen z comes around..
@@lightworkersarah ha ha! So true (already).
@@Aster_Risk think celebrities ->athletes->elected officials.
Zoomers love calling people old as if they're going to stay 15 forever. LOL.
LOL!! I was born in 1981 with a daughter born in 2006 & she tries to call me old! I can't wait to tell her that the next time she calls me "old"
It’s weird how your perspective changes as you get older. I never made fun of people for being “old” when I was younger but my perception of age was still so different from now. In my teens, my attitude toward 30+ was “ooh grownup.” Even in my mid 20s I asked my brother who’d then just turned 30 how it felt to be 30 and he just shrugged and said matter of factly, I feel the exact same. And I went, really? As if I thought hitting a certain age magically makes you feel different.
I just turned 28 and I wanna laugh at how I used to think being over 30 automatically meant you must’ve had your shit together lmao. But that’s also part of a weird thing where I was always intimidated by and felt too young and inadequate around older people. Still working on that tbh.
I love going to some of them "But aren't you now like what 20?"
they think that they will be kewl adults mebe
@@katiearbuckle9017 they act like boomers - you're 20! time to marry and have some kids
"The people who talk trash about my generation must've forgotten who raised it." - Dillon Garcia
I mean seriously, they complain that we're too coddled yet they routinely gloss over who was doing that coddling in the first place. Feelings of entitlement don't spawn in a vacuum. There's a lot of "the pot calling the kettle black" going on.
We sure didn't go out and buy those participation trophies ourselves, or even ask for them.
Finally, someone who agrees with my perspective. I am a baby boomer, but I do not have children. However, I watched as many in my generation spoiled their children to an unfortunate degree. Take those overpriced Jordan sneakers, for example.
i wanted to be a millennial so badly when buzzfeed and “only 90s kids remember” was big. and i can already see gen z doing the same with kids from 2005+ not being “allowed in our generation”. we hate millennials for being narcissistic but when are we going to do the same? - a gen z 18 y/o
Bruh same tbh. Pisses me off when I see people doing the exact same shit. Esp cos the still that the ~90s kids~ gatekept was stuff the oldest of us also experienced and it’ll be the same shit for the next lot. It’s so dumb.
I can relate as an 05 kid. The barriers between generations shouldn't exist. While 90s kids were born in the 90s they also grew up in the 2000s we experienced almost the same things they grew up with at a younger age even if we were infants and toddlers in the 2000s.
I can't tell you how many times the only 90s thing pissed me off. There's only a three year difference between an 18 year old and a 15 year old they would technically have similar experiences from a childhood point of view.
Lets just get rid of the generational crap. What good is doing anyone bur promoting tribalism and gatekeeping stupid stuff?
@@therealfinnaspring8585 omg you're back 💀
Millennials really just revealed the flaws in the system and were blamed for being blunt enough to call them out. In the words of Michael Scott, “If I am, it’s because society made me this way.”
As a millennial, I've never met anyone as they describe in this video. It seems this stereotype is really location and class-based. It's mostly well-off individuals, who live in/around big cities like NYC, and LA who have these features. There is a big disconnect between blue-collar and white-collar millennials.
I'm all for solidarity between Gen Y and Gen Z.
Idk what Gen you are but I was born in 95, so just on the brink, and I'm with you there
As a millenial, I strive to support the zoomers in anyway I can. Were going to need to work together if either of us want a future.
As a Gen Y, I've honestly only ever have had good opinions about Gen Z. I think they are the smartest generation of us all, and I hope to god that they don't turn out to be depressed like us, angry like the Gen X, or selfish like the Baby Boomers.
@@JLDREAMS I just think they are going to get real weird. We are Picassos blue period, but I bet they will be his surrealist one.
I love us and millennials too.
Could you maybe do a take on the trope of immigrants (e.g. Latinx or Eastern European) with tragic backstories that are just played for laughs? I've never seen an analysis of this trope.
I think is because people expect immigrants to struggle in order to justify the fact that they have made it to the "better country"
please don't use Latinx , use latino (it's just the way the language works, like many languages other than English) , it's not sexism as you are told.
but I like the idea you proposed!
@@titoune_talks Thanks for clarifying! English is only my third language and I didn't want to use the wrong word!
@@WhatEver-py2ze actually a lot of people don't mind, specially because includes non-binary folks, so, use whatever makes you feel comfortable
Or that eastern European are always portrayed as the bad guys.
When gen z eventually becomes the new boomers I really hope we were more excepting of the younger generation. One thing I’ve learned from older generations is that often they become very crabby and don’t have faith in the younger crowd. I’d hate to be the old lady who’s stuck in the past it is unwilling to learn from the younger generation as they will from us. I think a lot of this is a result of not being to except that the world is very different from what it was even just 10 years ago.
@thomas thompson saying that is willfully ignorant that the older generation will never know what it’s like to grow up in a different time. especially with the way that technology has advanced and will continue to advance there’s still a lot of values that the younger generation has learned that the older generation will never be able to experience. please get off your high horse just because you were born in a different time. being older doesn’t necessarily make you wiser and vice versa. experience does not equal wisdom
@thomas thompson this is exactly why every generation tends to have more compassion than the last. if the older generation can’t learn from the younger generation then that means that we would have absolutely no progress. in fact the entire rise in popularity socialism is due to the younger generation using their platforms to help boost leaders like aoc and bernie sanders amongst others.
I'm an old millennial (like, almost 40 old), and I think gen z are dope af. You all are going to change the world. We will do what we can to make it less crappy in the meantime. 🙌🏻❤️
Agreed
I feel like this is lacking is in presenting the class issues that millennials have. This largely focuses on the yuppie Seattle or LA centric lifestyle that doesn't at all represent the millennials that are still working minimum wage even after graduating college or never even went to college. The media depiction focuses on the glitz and glam of social media like Instagram narcissism of rich millennials to a overrepresentive degree.
This
Exactly. We aren't all aiming to be famous and millionaires. We are trying to be comfortable.
My first memory is watching the towers fall on 9/11. My second is sitting on my mom’s lap, saying ‘ I don’t want to go to war’ as Bush declared war on Iraq. When I was six, I realized that kids a year or two younger than me had never known a country at peace.
I think that does things to a person.
It does. My mom pulled me out of school for almost a week when it happened and we lived in a sleepy nowhere town in CA. I can remember other things before that, but god I felt that ever present fear of war ever since.
There was the Cuban missile crisis in the early 60's and then Kennedy was assassinated so baby boomers didn't have it easy either. Following that was the Vietnam war.
@@lemsip207 no one mentioned boomers here or that they didn't have a rough time. Like ??? How is this relevant to this particular comment?
I was in 8th grade and many kids went home early that day
Yeah and the anthrax scare. Like idk it was always turbulence and something to be scared of
generational conflict is such a shit stand in for understanding class conflict
GEN Z NEXT PLEASE: I’m a Gen Z but let me tell you our Generation has “savior/god complex”, we literally think that we are THE generation that changed the world,when all we do is tweet, sign petitions and nothing actually important!
Some of them really treat it like a trend and only do it for the approval of others, not actually because it’s the right thing to do. It’s so bothersome...
Fr. I think Gen Z is gonna make some positive changes in the future but we think we're gonna go out and start a revolution but in reality we lay in bed watching TikTok all day.
Thank for for being big enough to look at yourselves at not being all good & having flaws. That's more than I can say for Boomers, who basically project all their flaws & short comings onto the Gen Xers & Millennials. But I think you guys could have a fighting chance.
yea but all that can be powerful and social media DOES have an impact. however, it's important to know not to believe everything you read or hear online
Oof, I felt this as a teen too. I signed sooooo many fucking petitions. Really those petition sites are just data harvesting businesses, to sell to advertisers. So it's actually worse than doing nothing - it actively enriches those you think you're acting against!
These stereotypes are made up by older and younger gens from the outside. Also our boomer parents said we were all equal just for trying and now they make fun of us for believing we can “do anything” when they literally taught us that growing up. And then they kept us from succeeding and blamed us for not being competitive enough.
definitely saw this pressure growing up. boomers wanted their millennial kids to compete and so it can be toxic and lead to anxiety, depression, disconnect, lack of empathy, selfishness etc
Growing up as millennial was hard. Glorifying eating disorders, domestic violence, bullying, and no interest in your struggles with all that even from the special services taught us that nobody cares about us, so I don't really get where that "privilege and entitlement" comes from tbh. Most of us don't even have enough self-worth to be privileged or entitled lol So there's no wonder that many of us still can't figure out who we are and what do we wanna do, even though we're all adults already.
I don't know if I should be happy or sad by the fact that I see I'm not alone
“They’re speaking loudly and honestly about things that are important to them.” I’m glad.
Y’all baited me with putting Todd in the thumbnail but didn’t include him in the video
Yeah, that’s weird and really clickbaity ☹️🙁
He just has a weird and annoying personality in universe but he's so happy go lucky that he's satisfied with everything and just falls into success by luck, he doesn't really embody this trope at all
They did the same with Issa Rae. Only a few clips.
Indeed. Todd never really struck me as fitting that stereotype. While he did have the slacker and failing upward thing, the series also makes clear that he is the most selfless person alive and he ends up doing a job that doesn't pay much but is fulfilling.
I dislike how gen z is portrayed as the younger yet much more mature younger sibling, it makes me feel like I should have figuered out more of my stuff than I actually have. Like not only do I sometimes (irrationally) think that my peers are more mature than me and have a deeper understanding of the world, so it seems does the media.
Don't sweat it. Everyone is just making due your not behind your doing fine. Accepting that where your at is perfectly fine is a great step towards peace and happiness.
These stereotypes are largely BS, all generations and all people in general have similar but unique struggles
I think that one aspect that differentiates clearly Millenials and gen x is the fact that whereas the first had to be bombarded by all the bad news of the word and go on, the second is dangerously numb to it, to the point where anger comes from the inactions of others and not the act itself
How would you differentiate between Gen Y/Millenials and Gen Z?
@@strange144 the big advent of the internet. That's the biggest difference between the two.
Millennials were relatively low tech until like 2005 when computers started becoming publicly available. Gen Z grew up with computers, ps3s, and smartphones. Everything was connected. People stopped having to take "how to type" classes in like 2008 because by age 5 most Gen Z knew how. Millennials grew as the technology grew; it wasnt just there working great when we were born.
@@strange144 the wanting to live from the gen z and the apathy from millenials they just seem like they dont care at all
@@kraziiXIII I don't know about being low-tech until 2005. My family always had a bunch of computers and technology when I was growing up in the 90s. My youngest sister is gen Z while the rest of my siblings are millenials, and she doesn't really know more technology than us. She is more up to date on the newest websites/apps, but she still has trouble with how technology works and comes to us for help. *shrugs*
@@strange144 Gen Zs are cynical but optimistic (perhaps by learning from their more cynical Gen X parents and observing how Gen Y crashed and burned with the demands placed on them that don't work in today's society by their Baby boomer parents), Gen Y is generally just more depressed, have repressed anxiety and a good dose of inferiority complex.
Love this! It was great as usual, but I think that something big was missed--the pressure that millennials have been under to succeed since they were small children. If Gen X was the slacker generation, we were the overachiever generation. We spent our entire childhood preparing to get into college and be "successful." At the age of 3, most of us were already playing an instrument that we were expected to play through college. We studied ballet, went to soccer camps, volunteered on weekends, joined model UN, spearheaded clubs, and started practicing for the SATs when we were preteens all in hopes of getting into "a good college."
Most of the practical and vocational skills had been taken out of schools due to defunding, so many never learned a lot of basic skills. And even if they were available, our yuppie parents thought that those jobs/skills were beneath them, and by extension us, so what was the use of learning them?
I once had a roommate who was 25 and didn't know how to cook or clean at all because his parents never taught him. They told him to just focus on getting into college. So, he did. We all did. Then graduated with a mountain of debt and literally not even the possibility of finding a job.
The same people complaining that millennials expected to be promoted after 2 weeks fail to mention that said millennial was probably working their 5th internship. At this point, they probably had enough skills to be promoted to an associate-level position, yet, were unable to progress because the older generations had turned all the entry-level jobs into unpaid work.
Then when we finally made it to the entry-level position, we were already late in our late mid-20s or pushing 30. And then Boomers and Gen Xs were yelling about us not maturing fast enough into adulthood. Where were our families? Our houses, our stability? Oh gee, I don't know. Somewhere hiding underneath the exploded housing bubble, a mountain of student debt and a job that paid 35,000 a year.
I know that every generation hates on the next, but I am calling on all of us not to scapegoat Gen Z or Alpha the way we were. Somehow in the next 20 years, I am certain that Gen X and what remains of the Boomers will start blaming them for climate change or whatever disasters await us in the future. Let's not join them.
I agree 100% on ending the cycle of generational abuse.
It's interesting hearing your perspective as it sounds like your family and friend group was wealthier than mine. Its neat to see how our experiences intersect.
Honestly, yours actually sounds worse. I never worked any internships bc I never expected to be able to have a job that would offer one. I certainly dreamt of a comfortable life, but that mean making 50k. Which is still hard to do,but achievable by different means. I was the first to go into college after HS, but dropped out when it was apparent I no longer wanted to teach. I typically do make just under 50k from stressful, but manageable sales positions. I even managed to buy a house for 114k.
I think, having lower expectations helped a lot. Though to be honest, my expectation the planet would be habitable long enough for me to get old is turning into a bit of a mockery.
Anyways, I hope you are well! Take care of yourself:)
I was never taught to cook or clean either! Solidarity high five! I never had hobbies either, the money all went into after school activities instead. Like, please just buy me art supplies instead of a karate subscription?? Nope. You're going to karate. While constantly hearing about how much it costs, and I didn't want it. And those music lessons! they never taught music theory, or how to express yourself. It's all reading off a sheet and getting good at playing quickly. Sigh.
Of course that's a very middle class childhood... but so be it. The kids richer than me had even more after school activities, including supplemental tutoring, which I certainly didn't envy. But the kids poorer than me were often allowed to actually cultivate their actual art, or sport, or whatever they liked, and their parents scrimped and saved to provide for that. Instead of just flushing money down the toilet on pointless stuff that looks good on a uni application.
like, shit, I used to make a bunch of animations and short videos on the computer, with really bad quality cameras. I have absolutely none of them anymore, because paying for an external hard drive would have been a waste of money! But, oh, all those other lessons.... those were tooootally worth it!! /s
So I'm pretty bitter about that. I can't look back on any of the art I made as a teenager, as that computer's hard drive self destructed. Any online backups are gone because I hadn't signed into the account recently enough. I can never just dig them out of a drawer. I'm sure a lot of them were garbage, but my god, I wish I could just ACTUALLY LOOK AT THEM again instead of only having my memories.
so true it even hurts... I am extremely overqualified, been studying like a beast to get an engineering degree, then masters, valuable hobbies etc etc to find myself in my 30s exploited by both big and small companies for a mediocre salary, not owning a home, nor expectatives of getting it, not to mention affording children. My older cousins did shit of this and they have homes, children, stable jobs... Our generation got screwed and they look down at us like it was our fault. But I'm just even more worried about the coming generations, they are going to be fucked by social media, covid crisis, climate change and what knows.
@@kaitlyn__L I understand your pain completely. I wrote a lot of poetry in HS, and, it was actually pretty good. I had it all published on a forum.... and then the forum did a complete reset and deleted EVERYTHING. By gawd that hurt. You have my absolute sympathy. The only thing we can do is just try and make more art. And watch some videos on those Hindi men who make mandalas out of sand and then wipe it all away. Sending love and solidarity your way.
“It’s not hard work that burns people out, but rather the feeling that their work doesn’t matter.” - April Wensel
This is particularly true in the case of millennials. While I think making your job your primary source fulfillment/enjoyment can be a slippery slope, many people just aren’t satisfied anymore with having a job that simply “pays the bills”. They want something more out of it, and what’s wrong with that?
A bar? What if I'm not intrested in someone who drinks as a hobby?
If I had to try and chat up random strangers in pubs I'd probably never have had a girlfriend so I'm glad dating and meet up websites and later apps came along.
And it's not like organised and semi organised matchmaking is something that didn't exist before the Internet anyway.
I know, right? I want to meet a nice girl at the bookstore...buy her a coffee...and eventually we end up living in a cottage, baking bread, making art, and taking care of our cats.
@@alexwright4930 I feel pretty anxious about dating websites too! Everyone I ever dated was just someone I met on Twitter, or Tumblr, or LJ. We became friends first, shared hobbies, hung out on Skype. and THEN it hit. (Of course, when I visited them, I told the customs officers we met on Facebook or a dating site lol. Better than explaining LiveJournal to one of them!!)
Thank you! Don't even get me started on the people who act like drinking is a personality trait.
@@justjackiie Yes, it's like I'm a prohibitionist, I don't want to meet someone at a bar.
I thought this would be a light-hearted video about debunking the stereotype of the annoying millennial, and then they started bringing up the trauma our generation's been through and I was like, "Ouch. This is getting too real."
The Take is absolutely right. I was a child when both Columbine and 9/11 happened and, for all the societal change and supposed protections that came after, we haven't properly processed those traumas. The adults around us just put happy faces or combat fatigues or TSA uniforms over them and told us kids everything was all better now and we went, ". . . Okay."
And as for the economy and environment, those, too, were placed on our shoulders: "Oh, did the economy nosedive just after you graduated high school in 2007? Deal with it. Your grandparents went through the Depression; you have no right to complain. Oh, has the environment been suffering for decades at your elders' hands and is now in danger of irreversible damage? You fix it. Because remember: You're THE FUTURE!"
It's like being seated at a restaurant only to be left with the bill of the people who had the table before you because they decided to dine-and-dash.
And don't get me wrong, not everyone who is a member of pre-millennial generations tries to pass of the woes of their era or classify young people as the stereotypes portrayed on TV. People of all generations are waking up to the fact that still-sore wounds don't heal themselves but rather, get passed on instead. It's simply that millennials have much more to deal with than just, "How many Instagram followers do I have?" and that needs to be addressed.
As a Gen z I feel like theirs a lot of solidarity between millennials and my generation millennials haven’t done what the generation before them did and tear us down for wanting more because they want more to if anything I feel like when boomers lose power it will be a little easier talking about stuff
Edit :have y’all seen the Karen’s on TikTok making videos about genz they are having a one sided argument because I promise that no genz care if they wear skinny jeans and side parts it’s just not a trend doesn’t mean you can’t wear it
I genuinely hope millinials and gen z can lose the generational tribalism and hate tradition. If we can find solidarity and work together and then extend it to gen alpha maybe we can really change how people work together.
I honestly got choked up reading this comment. I really can't wait for the day the older generations step aside, so that the younger gens (millenials, gen Z, gen alpha, etc.) can clean up the mess. My fear is that by the time we get an opportunity, we'll be so exhausted & demoralized that we won't have anymore fight left in us. It'll be like how the hippies ditched their activism in favor of hyperconsumerism. But I see alot of us going on social media diets, doing more soul-searching, doing more meditation, seeking work-life balance instead of competitive soul-sucking jobs. So maybe there's hope.
Have you seen the pathetic TikTok dances zoomers make and expect to be taken seriously?
@@dubrob210 yes it’s terrible did you see the play. Millennials made basically have a generation battle but millennials were genz
this channel is by far my favourite on youtube!
Mine too.
Yessss!!!!
As a millennial I can say the most annoying ones are the ones that base their personality on being a millennial
Do those even exist?
@@PhoenixRising87 On the internet theres always ppl who bring up the fact they’re millennials and there’s also the ppl that wont shut up about being a 90s kid
@@TributesAndUnique yesss that trend of people constantly talking about “90’s KiDs” stuff. That was very annoying
Or who they are on social media
"Only 90s kids remember this"
I'm a millennial but don't recognise any of these traits in myself. Could it be mostly an american thing?
I feel the same way and I do think this is mainly US-American culture. I'm European and in my country it's the Gen Z people that are for example obsessed with Social Media (some of my friends are Gen Z and prime examples of that). Most of my Gen Y friends including myself don't really care that much about Social Media.
I'm an older millennial in America and none of this fits me either.
Not really this just the screeching of baby boomers and gen xers who feel irrelevant and find the world moving on without them.
I think it's more of a stereotype than a universal description of millennials. But also, yes, I wouldn't be surprised if it was largely an American attitude.
@@brandonhann1508 true
I can’t really remember meeting any millennials that meet these descriptions or stereotypes in real life. I see them all the time online, but never out in the wild.
I pictured a David Attenborough voice over stalking a wild millinial lol. Yeah honestly no one irl acts like these stereotypes its always only social media spaces. Like I've only seen millinials and gen z get along irl but apparently online they act like brats to one another its silly
@@therealfinnaspring8585 “ Watch closely and you can see the millennial spreading avocado on toast, a perplexing act that researchers still have yet to understand”
This should be VERY specific to “white American Millennials”
...and that´s a typical millennial answer - that is the annoying thing.
@@cjj8119 you must be a boomer. Or a white millennial.
I was thinking the same thing, was expecting them to point out more racial/cultural differences.
Except it's not. You can see plenty of non white millennials like those depicted in this video all over twitter and Instagram.
@@metoo3342 Exactly, characters. Not real people. Guess which race is writing these characters hmm?
Zoomers are right to think millennials are developmentally arrested. It's hard to feel like an adult when one can't reach the adulthood milestones such as having a secure job (preferably in your field), buying a house or even moving out, having kids, etc.
Yeah, it's true. I think zoomers will get to experience that joy of no opportunities too.
what's a zoomer?
@@oooh19 Another name for members of Generation Z, also called centennials sometimes. I think they were born on 1997 or after
I AM A ZOOMER. I ZOOM AROUND LIKE CAT.
@@pseudophp lol u got the zoomies
I was thinking of a new trope idea: the hooker with a heart of gold à la Pretty Woman.
Eyes wide shut and Leaving Las Vegas
Getting ran through by enough guys destroys a woman. If a hooker had a heart of gold, it was only when she started that job.
Also Millennials of color is whole other story. A lot of grew up seeing crack or The Virus crush our communities/families. Police brutality being picked and dropped as a interesting topic. Meanwhile it never stopped happening. We are all baked in trauma sadly. And mocked for coping with it in various ways.
hear hear. intersectionality is always important when it comes to analysing generational things.
As a Gen Xer myself, all this millennial hate comes from the section of the boomer generation that votes for people like trump. And most TV execs are those type of boomers trying to frame that negative narrative about millennials because they hate, not only social change, but younger people standing up for themselves.
They call you Zoomers though, your values and ideals are alarming alligned on a lot of issues with them. They say you're more "connservative" than us millennials. Which I think is bullshit, I think you all aren't as cynical as you come off or appear but really want a seat at the adult table so bad you'll say shit like "Trumps got a point..." I think your generation are very chamillian and love to blend in to avoid conflict where we are outwright pussies and avoid it, then post about how angry it made us at home in our safe space.
@@macabredanceparty5277 zoomer is genZ, not genX
Thats insanely inaccurate, you're just pushing your personal agenda and beliefs. Millennials cause their own problems, and while obviously not all of us are the same, we typically are lazy, entitled, arrogant, refuse to take responsibility for our actions and problems, and it shows in our work ethic, career path choice, life decisions. Nobody made us do anything. But accompany all of our flaws with the overpriced econemy (which is partially our fault) and everything adds up.
The Boomers are the ones who CREATED the Millennials.
1997 here (technically older gen z) and I remember getting rejected by millennials for being to young and now by Gen Z for being to old.
that sucks! but good taste in pfp👍
Same
It really gotta be like that though (also 1997 here) my older sister (she was born in 1993) sometimes is like “ewww you’re so young.” and in my head I’m like “dude you’re only 26 and I’m only 23. We both young”
1994 i reject you 💔
Welcome to the limbo, Sarah!
(Kidding...but being on the in-between gives you traits from both generations 😉😊).
Of course we get criticized, we are in our 20s/30s, the the most unstable years of your life. This is the time to make mistakes. Milliennials have seen so many societal transitions in such a short amount of time, particularly technological and economic changes. All of our awkward phases exist online for people to see and critique. Yet, we didn’t invent the internet, we didn’t crash the economy, we are simply responding to it.
Ohgod, i was born in 97 and just can’t understand if i am more millennial or gen z, feel rejected by both actually)))
You are a minionZ (a.k.a. a Millennial/Gen Z cusper group) but your OVERALL Generation is Generation "Gen" Z ( those born 1997 - 2012); according to the American source. 1997 baby here as well.
If you have no memory of the 90’s, you’re Gen Z
@@Feliciatanktop true.
As they say in the video, do you remember where you were when you heard that 9/11 happened? If you remember that moment, and had the understanding of what was happening (and you also remember living in the 90s) then that would make you a millennial. You were 4 when 9/11 happened and mostly experienced the 2000s as your childhood so you are on the cusp but still have more of the gen z experience. But that's okay ! I know right now it feels important but I promise you as you get older and the next generation is defined, you'll have a better idea of where you are generationally.
@@dropdeadxhorizon 👏 👏 👏 💯
WONDERFULLY Said. Right on the nose. 1997 baby here as well. I was age 4 - 12 from 2001 to 2009, and so my childhood would be in the 2000s. I was an infant to a toddler (age 0 - 3 in 1997 - 2000), a.k.a. late - 20th century.
To be fair, anytime the older generations want to blame the "young people" for something, they call them millenials, even if the examples they are complaining about are actually gen x or gen z. (this happens all the time in news articles). It's just old people complaining about anyone younger than them, but millenials shoulder the burden at the moment.
I know right! It was Gen Z that came up with "Ok, Boomer" meme yet Millennials got blamed for it
My brother’s a 34 year old high school teacher who sometimes complains about his students. He always used to rag on them as being Millennials until I told him HE was a Millennial and had the generations mixed up. The students he was complaining about were Gen Z. But anyway, I’m sure teachers will always complain about their students no matter the generation.
Yeah we get blamed for tiktok trends which tiktok has all generations on it but the trends they complain about specifically are gen z. Ppl just need to stop hating on other generations
It's been about making us scapegoats from the beginning, and about hating and wanting to blame vulnerable people as being responsible for their own vulnerability on a moral level.
And now some gen z are trying to blame millennials that we didn't do enough and I'm like????? Things aren't perfect yet but do you have any idea how much things changed in the past 10 years? With the pile of shit we were given, at least we got the foundations going and created the movements and platforms you now use to keep things moving forward.
@@MariaThePotterNut They are too young and we remain the generation with that studied the most, so anyone understands anything of what we are talking about.
It’s really awkward when you are a Baby Millennial but you can’t fully relate to Millennials or Gen Z.
Yep, it's weird to be in between. I'm an Elder Millenial, the one where the internet became a thing when I was in high school. I can't relate to anyone! My little sister was the high achiever, she's more in line with the stressed out, hardworking, planning, networking millenial. Meanwhile, here I am with the technological skills of a 70-year-old, and I don't really know what's going on with people! I'm just over here, married to a gen x but not sharing his cultural references, gardening, canning, crocheting and raising chickens. You'd think I'd get along well with hipsters, but no, they like to do what I like to do, but in a way that's as complicated as possible.
My 11yo thinks I'm unfair for not even considering getting him a phone/tablet/device of some kind, but I just can't see any good coming of kids having unfettered access to that stuff.
Totally.
@@er6730 from my own personal experience, I was able to find other autistic friends my age online where there were none at school, where we could talk about anime and sci-fi and video games to our heart's content (and prank call American businesses on Skype and think we were hilarious for parroting Adult Swim jokes, but hey ho).
I was also able to access information to know I was bisexual at 13, and to be confident in it and demand acceptance instead of asking for it. And then knew I was trans at 15. I also, through what I'd learned about bodily autonomy and consent, understood that a particular doctor had tried to take advantage of me when many of my peers just went along with his things. (Not that reporting it did any good, but I digress...)
But there's certainly aspects about it I didn't like, which mostly came from a few adults trying to insinuate themselves into our friend group. Offering iTunes and Xbox gift cards and the like to ingratiate themselves, turn everything into that Steve Buscemi "how do you do, fellow kids?" meme. If I had been isolated online, they might well have tried to groom me, but my large social network (in the, uh, traditional sense of the word) of those in my age range (13-17, as a 13 year old) shielded me from that. I didn't crave the adults' attention, or so forth, so yeah.
But the internet back then was more about MSN/AIM/later Skype than the highly connected and stalker-able social networks of today. So I don't necessarily know how much if any of my experience ten or so years ago is applicable anymore. I _used_ Twitter as a teen, sure, but it wasn't the main base of operations like it is today - those were the IM clients for me.
Ultimately, I think a lot of good can come from internet access, and private access at that, in their own comfort zone (no way I could've learned I was trans on some heavily surveilled family PC) - but if your kid's not ready, emotionally, intellectually, etc; to know how to filter out people who are bad news - it's probably for the best to restrict access for another few years.
I was certainly "precocious" in those ways, and not everybody is. I knew how to not give out actual personal info at 10 or 11 when lots of people are vulnerable to giving out their address well past being 15 or even more. It's possible your kid just wants the new shiny, but it's also possible they feel stifled in home and school life, and might want an escape to find other kids like them. Depending on how comfortable they feel talking to you, of course.
I suppose I really latched onto "no good can come of early access" rather than looking at the whole picture of what you said...... hm. Well, anyway, I've written this now, and so I might as well send it.
@Jenna Lenn999 hell, even people my own age who came from slightly richer families have similarly divergent experiences! I used a VCR until 2006, so I'm more with older millennials on nostalgia for those, and floppy disks, and the like. My girlfriend who was born just weeks after me never knew anything besides DVDs and DVRs and thumb drives. Strange. My formative computing experience was Windows 98, hers was XP. Etc etc etc. I watched a lot of home recorded tapes as well, so I have more nostalgia for late 80s early 90s adverts (the ones captured on tape) than ones from the time of my actual childhood, lol.
I think the generational lines are too broad. What does a 24/25 year old have in common with a 40 year old? Same with a 23 year old and a 13 year old. I think we need to ditch the generation thing anyway it kinda just promotes tribalism
To be fair, Sophia from Girl Boss *was* a nightmare and a genuinely bad person.
Which I adored. You very rarely come across a female protagonist that's allowed to be a bad person.
@@rosemali3022 to each their own, but I found her insufferable. I think it’s because she also treats waitstaff really poorly in the show which is a big no for me.
@@aimeesmiles9400 I mean yeah, shes a shitty person and not to be admired. That's what I liked. So much of our media makes it out that women have to be perfect at all times, and flaws are shyness or not wearing contacts and getting a blowout. We're getting more nuanced characters in recent years, but that was the first time I saw an attractive woman protagonist be a genuinely horrible person. (Attractive is important, their are characters that are written nasty, but they are usually typecasted).
I imagine we will get more of those in the future, and I dont know how I would feel if I watched the show back now, but those were my thoughts at the time.
@@rosemali3022 Is that a joke? Most female protagonists these days are just insufferable.
@@theguybehindyou4762 That says more about you than it does about them.
Don't like them? don't watch their movies and shows.
Or better yet, why don't you write your own female protagonist? maybe you got some great insights, and you're wasting them by complaining about shit with strangers on the internet
I’m 28 and I swear I wasn’t even aware of the Millennial term till I was like 20 or something. And at that point, a lot of those articles were coming out blaming Millennials for all of society’s problems (ones that we inherited) or talking about experiences older Millennials were going through while I was still on the younger end of the spectrum. I still feel a little removed from the older end of the spectrum since they’re pushing 40 with, presumably, houses and families and I still feel like a kid sometimes. It’s just weird. People love to make fun of/blame Millennials for everything. Yet they still consume content created by and about Millennials, and a lot of social movements were started by Millennials. I mean, same goes for any generation. We can say what we want about Boomers all the live long day but we’re still gonna watch them on screen, be fans, etc.
Idk about anyone else, but I don’t go through life relegating people to their generation. It’s just not natural. I don’t see someone and think, “boomer” or “gen z.” They’re just a person. Generations are not monoliths. They may share some similar life defining moments and mindsets, but no one person is the same! I just really don’t get the hate Millennials get. Not saying this in a smug way, but as with previous generations, Gen Z will eventually grow older and be deemed “obsolete” while they’re pushed aside to make way for the younger generation. Such is the way of the world, it seems.
Just a funny side note: my brother’s a 34 y.o. high school teacher and he’s a good, well-liked teacher, but in private he’s often complained about the generation of his students. He’s always mistakenly referred to them as Millennials and called them entitled and whatnot until I told him, dude YOU’RE a Millennial. The students you’re complaining about are Gen Z. 😂😂
I’m 27 and feel the same way. I had no idea about the hate millenials are getting from younger generations as well.. meanwhile I can’t really identify with the experiences of older millenials or millenials depicted in popculture because i’m an Asian minority growing up/living in Europe and most of these examples are from the US. So I don’t even know how much of this should apply to me. At the same time it’s weird to be seemingly being mocked by gen z bc I still feel like i’m such a kid and I def don’t have aspirations that I used to imagine a late 20s person should have lol plus, I started to realise in recent years that I find more and more common things with older gen Z people. For now, my conclusion is that all this generational war between gen z and millenials is only happening on social media platforms which is the perfect place for people who just want attention to seem edgy and stir up shit. But seeing how much coverage and discussion this generational war is getting, I fear it could become a permanent mainstream woldwide thing. Which is really concerning since as you said... generations aren’t monolith and people can’t be categorised into these hard defining boxes.
@@revolrtol Exactly, totally agree. I also feel I'm definitely not where one might expect someone my age to be, but this "arrested development" some of us feel isn't because of how this generation inherently is; it's because of what we inherited (at least in the US, where I'm also an Asian minority), and that's just the truth. We're products of our environment and the economy we inherit.
And it makes total sense if you have things in common with older Gen Z people since generations obviously aren't these strict boxes where once you reach the cutoff year, you magically can't relate at all to the next generation. I feel like I'm much more likely to have certain things in common w/ someone born in the late '90s, which is technically the start of Gen Z, than someone who was born in the early '80s, which is the start of Gen Y.
As for the mocking, I feel like any generation that includes teenagers will do that. But still, yeah, some of the stuff they mock is plain idiotic and often just to be edgy. (To any Gen Z person reading this, I don't think it's all of you, or even the majority. Just a loud few.) Like I mentioned, one day Gen Z will start being edged out by Gen Alpha and the cycle will keep going, though who knows how the social media landscape will look by then. I do think social media makes this dumb generational war, that I don't even get nor buy into, seem bigger than it is, but you are right in that it could get even more validation by being covered by traditional media, and it'll just snowball into something bigger and more nonsensical...great.
Also, where the hell is Gen X in all this? We never hear anything about them. They're just off somewhere blissfully left to themselves. Lucky mofos. 😭 Hope we can get that one day in the future...just finally be left in peace for once.
Me as a generation z realising we will probably get hated on even more :((
Not by me. I think a lot of us millennials like you guys. Hopefully things will be better for you.
as we should ✨
In my experience as a millennial, we're pretty inspired by Gen Z. We see how you guys are stepping up to be the change we couldn't. You make us hopeful for the future.
Don't worry. Majority of people think you're Millennials anyway. To the older folks we're all just "the kids who are on the internet and the phone all the time".
You probably won't. Millennials are nicer than the older generations
Why do I feel called out?
Because we have problems
Precisely, the Take are once again outlining EXACTLY why Millennials are looked down on, and have earned their current problematic reputation! 😍
@@trinaq Umm, not exactly. The point is that we haven't completely earned our reputation. There's always truth to things, but not to this extreme.
" Xennials are unique because they're the last generation to experience an analogue childhood and digital adulthood." Long live the Xennials! The Gen X and Millenial mash up.
I'm a late 90s baby and millenials really be treating me like i was born in the mid 2000's and don't remember a time when streaming, iphones and social media didn't exist.
Thank you that is what pisses me off most we actually had a good balance on technology it's gen z that was mostly raises on technology but we grew with video tapes and cassette tapes and they play us like we don't know what that is.
@@ChantelCarter-cc7cu exactly!
Honestly I was 2001 and were treated the same even though at least for a few years afterwards, VHS, cassettes, internet and smartphones weren’t a thing
@Jenna Lenn999I wasn't including people like u in the statement! It's the one's who are really condescendingly rude and do actually treat you like you're dumb just because you're in your early 20s. I think the mid-late 90s babies are confused as to whether we are gen z or millenials in 2020 when some of us are 22-25 and recall growing up millenial in tween years but in teenage years growing up gen z...it's like u don't fully belong to either gen cause ur 'too youg' for one and 'too old' for the other. Can other mid-late 90s babies agree?
@@bambii_thinks3147 1000% big agree. This has intersections with class and stuff as well, my richer friends the exact same age as me never knew cassettes and VCRs, they were always DVD and DVRs. Culturally I have a lot more in common with millennials, especially because I used to watch a lot of old tapes (we had dozens and dozens of home recorded films and TV shows with the ads intact). Like, I'm 25, and I relate more with most ppl in their 30s on that front. My dad made mixtapes for me from his vinyl which I'd listen on the way to school, or play Gameboy.
But some other aspects, like how old you were when 9/11, or the like, I feel closer to genZ. I remember a time before smartphones, I used payphones and landlines sure. But I had an iPhone I'd saved up for when I was 15. I'm far more comfortable with smartphones than people 5-10 years older than me, but I still PREFER a laptop or a desktop. Seeing genZers do everything on a phone like it's NBD is confusing to me lol. Like don't your thumbs hurt?? I guess they look at us preferring computers like don't your wrists hurt? But I digress..
It's a liminal, transitory part of the generation. Transitional. I guess that's why they call us cuspers. Like "xennials" for the ppl like us but for genX and millennials. I've seen various portmanteau names for this cusp subgeneration but they don't seem standardised yet.