If I buy a $399 TV, and they neglected to use $3 natural material packaging in favour of saving $2.50 by using the cheap, plastic material. Then frankly... I'd be disgusted, disappointed and angry. The additional cost is negligible.
another masterpiece DW , the idea of edible packaging is indeed revolutionary . I would love to have sauce in those algal sachets. Well i would like to tell you all about a guy named ANKIT AGARWAL from kanpur , india . In india every day millions of people go to temples , marriages and functions are organised which produces a lot wastes and flowers and other natural decorative items are part of them . Most of those flowers and leaves end up in the canals,drains and rivers polluting and choking them. So he found a solution to those organic harmful waste by converting them into non-toxic,charcoal free INCENSE STICKS. Thus he managed to create huge opportunities and employment for poor people and solving a pollution problem and providing a safer way to pray to god. His company's name is PHOOL [literal meaning - flowers], Made from temple flowers[tagline]. THANKS DW , MAY GOD GIVE MORE POWER TO US FOR FIGHTING THE climate change.
Thank you so much for the referral, Rahul! We will inform our team of reporters about this. Please always feel free to send such great info our way. We are happy to read this and do a follow up. Don't forget to hit the subscribe button 🙃
I've dreamt of making a company that uses mushroom, seaweed or algae for packaging since 8th grade. This ensures me that by the time I'm able to get into this, the technology would already exist and be efficient.
@@rahul8454 thank you very much rahul. Today I won A Business plan competition on my idea of 100% compostable pens. I might soon be able to get to my goal
Zero waste shops are also a viable alternative, i see them more and more widespread and i find it a promising trend... after all our grandparents were all "zero waste".
The petroleum industry will never allow natural alternatives. Solutions do exist, but those profiting from the current system won't allow it to take off.
Instead of finding a greener single use material, we should be focusing on reducing and eventually eliminating their use. Albeit biodegradable, algae and mushroom packaging still require energy and resources and produces waste. This is just another greenwashing trick to keep overconsumption going, now with guilt-free consumers. Why shouldn't we instead buy by the bulk with good old bowls? Single use is hassle-free, right? But too much damage have already been done trading sustainability for convenience.
Hi Guilherme, thanks for your feedback. We are completely with you when it comes to people taking the responsibility to be more conscious when it comes to their buying habits. Our reporter Kai touched on this topic in his "The recycling myth" piece (you can view it here: bit.ly/32fftpF). Greenwashing is also a no-no! Luckily our reporter Malte spoke about how brands sell to us, so that we are more mindful of the messages signified to us via Neuromarketing: th-cam.com/video/mkDVC_izIV0/w-d-xo.html This topic is complex and multifaceted. Unpacking it in a 10 min video, we try our best. Do you have any other alternatives that you know have been trading sustainably for convenience? We're open to hearing from you 🙂
Hello, DW Planet A. Thanks for the reply. It's not a feedback, it's just my opinion about a greener single use material. As for DW Planet A, just as always, you folks did a terrific job covering the topic. I confess that I didn't fully understand the 2nd paragraph of your reply.
Great Video! only problem is price on many of these, however they said the same when plastic came out, it's just a matter of time before the whole operations become mainstream. What I do hate is the thought of these big brands increasing the price of their products using "its more expensive to produce" as an excuse. Big brands can more than afford the extra cost on their own rather than make the consumer pay extra for it. It would just be corporate greed. Great video and a very positive outlook on things an i look forward to hopefully seeing these products in the future.
Omg I was literally just thinking and calculating how we can get to net zero by just growing algae 🥺 thank you, DW. Can you please do videos on such hypothetical solutions to climate change or at least reducing CO2 emissions?
This is a really good idea, I am not far from a mcdonalds, tim hortons and kfc.. i can not even tell you how many of those little ketchup, mayo and mustard packs i see on the ground :(
Already lost count of the number of “news” about a product that gonna supposedly replace plastic. 10+ years passed and I still see plastic bags everywhere…
I feel additive manufacturing, and computer aided design, using biodegradable materials would be the way to lower the cost and weight of these materials. Instead of compression moulding. Roughly grind up the mycelium mats. Mix with a biodegradable non-toxic compound to act as binding. Use advanced CAD to design the packaging optimally (only as much material as needed, and as strong as possible at the same time). Extrude the mix into the desired shape using a 3D printer. I think a mesh design could be lighter, and yet stronger than polystyrene. The price may even be similar.
I like the idea of mesh design for an optimal weight and strength, however I don’t think that is the case for mycelium. The hyphae itself is a binder, and the mixture of mushroom spores and substrate would not sustain the heat in 3D printing. I have seen people experimenting 3D printing with orange peels though! Hopefully it could be used at a bigger scale
@@vuongt7964 Yeah. For the most part I think more use should be made of state of the art CAD to improve resource efficiency. I don't know to what extent it is used in industry yet, but we've been seeing reports of the promising organic-seeming results of advanced CAD backed by some AI to improve the efficiency of designs. I wonder if it's still too expensive to incorporate into most designs? Seems so promising.
As usual, trying to find solution to keep business a usual strategies rather then understanding that the real solution is less production and less consumption. Happy black friday y’all 🥲
Its a good start and was very interesting video. Seaweed is definaly the way to go considering how fast it grows,and how much c02 is convered to oxegen . now all we need to do is stop fishing companies dumping fishing nets in sea etc, that counts for atleast 40% of all plastic in the sea ,and over all does the more harm to the enviroment .
What if we bioengineered fish that produce enzymes that could break down plastic? I know there’s certain fungi and worms that can do something like that. I don’t know. There’s a lot of plastic out there.
It's much better to bioengineer microorganism to produce the enzyme to break down plastic, we can harvest the enzyme in the lab or factory (at the Big scale). And the enzyme can be used to break down plastic in waste process facility. It's be cheaper and faster as they double their number in short ammount of time, and not that much different than how we produce some medicine and antibiotic today. As for the plastic in nature we can only collect them, we shouldn't release GMO into the nature for they could destroy the balance in the ecosystem.
Well, that's all good news but what about health safety of the algae plastic alternative, as iodine exposure is associated with Hashimoto autoimmune condition. The patients are advised to limit their seafood consumption by a lot, and seaweed is packed with iodine.
Since about 2010 90% of Dentures are made of Algae based plastic that cure hardens when arsenic is added! My Veneers are mounted on a algae based plate!
The problem is, GREEN-PLASTICS DOESN'T really able to be recycled to organic materias. You need special facilities. And, if you just throw it to the environment, well, it's just become the same plastic trash, polluting it. It's not like ice cube. Turn water to ice cube, and it can melt, become water again. Once you turn algae to plastic, it's not vice versa, as long as the requirement doesn't meet.
These are not bioplastic, they are plastic-like organic materials. Mycelium material turns into soil in about 4 months, look up a very recent study by Elsacker.
Mais si la dégradation du plastique se fait par des champignons, le plastique DEMEURE et reste dans le cycle de la nature, à moins que j'ai pas compris.
We don't need nothing to compete with plastic We need something who can replace plastic, and ban it One market at a time, like supermarket bags, should be ban at least the slime ones who only last for 1 ou 2 times
Plastic is already made from algae via crude oil. (Most people don't know that crude oil came from buried algae) What will making more plastic from algae accomplish? Just making plastic from biological sources doesn't mean you will no longer have plastic, or that it will be biodegradable.
I want to see governments taxing products with higher pollution footprints and spreading that pool of money to subsidizing products with lower pollution footprints. That should tip the economics favorably.
These new materials resemble paper rather than polymers (a.k.a. plastics). They are sold to tree-huggers only because they are more expensive than paper.
Please make seaweed straw or other ways that are more "hygienic" than eating the seaweed packaging whole. The idea to eat the packaging (which might have been passed through unknown number of random hands) is just gross to me. And if it can replace the plastic film in coffee cups that'd be great. I don't need the packaging edible (I eat proper food instead). I would love the packaging biodegradable.
If only single use Plastics were banned from countries, we would have less numbers of Plastic contamination. We maybe need to use more compostable products to give back to the planet instead of take from it. Hopefully these ideas become the future of plastic packaging. It's time to cut back the single packaging.
Interesting, but the problem with plastics are the slums in poor countries without waste management. Otherwise it can be recycled, burned for energy at some point or some can even be composted (with industrial composters). Expensive alternatives won't solve that problem.
Recycling uses up energy which is likely to increase CO2 in the atmosphere and burning increases CO2 directly. It would in my opinion best to avoid this.
Way to expensive. Oil is here to stay, All the clothes you wear, plastic, Tesla car, all plastic, kids toys, all plastic, all house water lines and drain pipes plastic. False teeth, plastic, Lego, Billion dollar company, all plastic, etc.
Waiting for these things to get cheaper to challenge fossil-products? How about charging the full costs of fossil based products and not just the cheap "get it out of the earth" part of it? A global CO2 tax will be NECESSARY if we want to reach even 3°C warming!
I think it's useful that these big brands "dip their toe" in these sustainable solutions, because then they can't pretend that they can't be sustainable. Then we can say to them "great, you did it on a small scale - we believe in your ability to scale it up, because that's the skill that made you a large company!"
I can definitely see it working with packaging however there is an issue with using it in tubes and wire coating because it attracts rodents that eat it. Car owners have found that out. Sorry to those who had big hopes for mushrooms but I'm just not a fungi
@@eueueu91 it wasn't specifically with mycelium however Phil Edmonston in a 2015 or 2016 edition of his book Lemon-aid for cars mentioned problems with rodents eating the plant-based coatings on wires and tubing in cars.
These are the roadblocks for all these alternative products that are transformative. Big companies whom are used to using plastic won't integrate them. The cost of making them will be significantly higher than plastic. Politics plays a huge role in promoting such products. Basically, every alternative product that comes out against plastic don't make that much of an impact on plastic.
Would you be willing to pay more for plastic alternatives?
@Nicola Domanin don't lose hope, and keep spreading the word :)
*Yös*
No, efficiency required
100% yes. I rather pay upfront instead of the future cleanup costs and lessen the health impacts along the way. We'll pay for it one way or another.
If I buy a $399 TV, and they neglected to use $3 natural material packaging in favour of saving $2.50 by using the cheap, plastic material. Then frankly... I'd be disgusted, disappointed and angry.
The additional cost is negligible.
another masterpiece DW , the idea of edible packaging is indeed revolutionary . I would love to have sauce in those algal sachets.
Well i would like to tell you all about a guy named ANKIT AGARWAL from kanpur , india . In india every day millions of people go to temples , marriages and functions are organised which produces a lot wastes and flowers and other natural decorative items are part of them . Most of those flowers and leaves end up in the canals,drains and rivers polluting and choking them.
So he found a solution to those organic harmful waste by converting them into non-toxic,charcoal free INCENSE STICKS.
Thus he managed to create huge opportunities and employment for poor people and solving a pollution problem and providing a safer way to pray to god.
His company's name is PHOOL [literal meaning - flowers], Made from temple flowers[tagline].
THANKS DW , MAY GOD GIVE MORE POWER TO US FOR FIGHTING THE climate change.
Thank you so much for the referral, Rahul! We will inform our team of reporters about this.
Please always feel free to send such great info our way. We are happy to read this and do a follow up.
Don't forget to hit the subscribe button 🙃
@@DWPlanetA I have subscribed to you a long ago , not just from my acc but also from my whole family's 😂
@@rahul8454
Cool 😊😊
I've dreamt of making a company that uses mushroom, seaweed or algae for packaging since 8th grade. This ensures me that by the time I'm able to get into this, the technology would already exist and be efficient.
All the best yash , may your noble dreams come true 🙂
@@rahul8454 thank you very much rahul. Today I won A Business plan competition on my idea of 100% compostable pens. I might soon be able to get to my goal
Congrats
@@yashjha7670 congrats yash
good luck! you can do it!!!
Zero waste shops are also a viable alternative, i see them more and more widespread and i find it a promising trend... after all our grandparents were all "zero waste".
I wait eagerly for these videos... every Friday
The petroleum industry will never allow natural alternatives. Solutions do exist, but those profiting from the current system won't allow it to take off.
Instead of finding a greener single use material, we should be focusing on reducing and eventually eliminating their use.
Albeit biodegradable, algae and mushroom packaging still require energy and resources and produces waste. This is just another greenwashing trick to keep overconsumption going, now with guilt-free consumers.
Why shouldn't we instead buy by the bulk with good old bowls? Single use is hassle-free, right? But too much damage have already been done trading sustainability for convenience.
Hi Guilherme,
thanks for your feedback. We are completely with you when it comes to people taking the responsibility to be more conscious when it comes to their buying habits. Our reporter Kai touched on this topic in his "The recycling myth" piece (you can view it here: bit.ly/32fftpF). Greenwashing is also a no-no! Luckily our reporter Malte spoke about how brands sell to us, so that we are more mindful of the messages signified to us via Neuromarketing: th-cam.com/video/mkDVC_izIV0/w-d-xo.html
This topic is complex and multifaceted. Unpacking it in a 10 min video, we try our best. Do you have any other alternatives that you know have been trading sustainably for convenience?
We're open to hearing from you 🙂
Hello, DW Planet A. Thanks for the reply. It's not a feedback, it's just my opinion about a greener single use material. As for DW Planet A, just as always, you folks did a terrific job covering the topic. I confess that I didn't fully understand the 2nd paragraph of your reply.
Great Video! only problem is price on many of these, however they said the same when plastic came out, it's just a matter of time before the whole operations become mainstream. What I do hate is the thought of these big brands increasing the price of their products using "its more expensive to produce" as an excuse. Big brands can more than afford the extra cost on their own rather than make the consumer pay extra for it. It would just be corporate greed. Great video and a very positive outlook on things an i look forward to hopefully seeing these products in the future.
as usual people are missing a bigger picture can't comment about it here
Omg I was literally just thinking and calculating how we can get to net zero by just growing algae 🥺 thank you, DW.
Can you please do videos on such hypothetical solutions to climate change or at least reducing CO2 emissions?
This is a really good idea, I am not far from a mcdonalds, tim hortons and kfc.. i can not even tell you how many of those little ketchup, mayo and mustard packs i see on the ground :(
Did they give any information about durability? Is the shelf life of products packaged with algae shortened, for example?
Love this channel.
Already lost count of the number of “news” about a product that gonna supposedly replace plastic. 10+ years passed and I still see plastic bags everywhere…
I feel additive manufacturing, and computer aided design, using biodegradable materials would be the way to lower the cost and weight of these materials.
Instead of compression moulding. Roughly grind up the mycelium mats. Mix with a biodegradable non-toxic compound to act as binding. Use advanced CAD to design the packaging optimally (only as much material as needed, and as strong as possible at the same time). Extrude the mix into the desired shape using a 3D printer.
I think a mesh design could be lighter, and yet stronger than polystyrene. The price may even be similar.
I like the idea of mesh design for an optimal weight and strength, however I don’t think that is the case for mycelium. The hyphae itself is a binder, and the mixture of mushroom spores and substrate would not sustain the heat in 3D printing. I have seen people experimenting 3D printing with orange peels though! Hopefully it could be used at a bigger scale
@@vuongt7964 Yeah. For the most part I think more use should be made of state of the art CAD to improve resource efficiency. I don't know to what extent it is used in industry yet, but we've been seeing reports of the promising organic-seeming results of advanced CAD backed by some AI to improve the efficiency of designs. I wonder if it's still too expensive to incorporate into most designs? Seems so promising.
As usual, trying to find solution to keep business a usual strategies rather then understanding that the real solution is less production and less consumption.
Happy black friday y’all 🥲
Great video! Love this
This is really interesting, thank you!
Prices MUST increase that's all there is to it .
I'll do it as a my final year college project tnx DW
Its a good start and was very interesting video.
Seaweed is definaly the way to go considering how fast it grows,and how much c02 is convered to oxegen .
now all we need to do is stop fishing companies dumping fishing nets in sea etc, that counts for atleast 40% of all plastic in the sea ,and over all does the more harm to the enviroment .
I have so much faith in humen. We can overcome this.
There's another scientist from Bangladesh who made a biodegradable plastic named "Sonali" from Jute(the stuff you use to make rope)
This is going to be revolutionary
What if we bioengineered fish that produce enzymes that could break down plastic? I know there’s certain fungi and worms that can do something like that. I don’t know. There’s a lot of plastic out there.
It's much better to bioengineer microorganism to produce the enzyme to break down plastic, we can harvest the enzyme in the lab or factory (at the Big scale).
And the enzyme can be used to break down plastic in waste process facility.
It's be cheaper and faster as they double their number in short ammount of time, and not that much different than how we produce some medicine and antibiotic today.
As for the plastic in nature we can only collect them, we shouldn't release GMO into the nature for they could destroy the balance in the ecosystem.
Well, that's all good news but what about health safety of the algae plastic alternative, as iodine exposure is associated with Hashimoto autoimmune condition. The patients are advised to limit their seafood consumption by a lot, and seaweed is packed with iodine.
Does the iodine leach into water or food from algae?? From what I understand you don’t have to eat the algae and it’s biodegradable
The new plastic colon biofilm can't kill it this comment won't make it
In my country Bangladesh, scientist are trying to make biodegradable polythene from jute fiber.....
Since about 2010 90% of Dentures are made of Algae based plastic that cure hardens when arsenic is added!
My Veneers are mounted on a algae based plate!
The problem is,
GREEN-PLASTICS DOESN'T really able to be recycled to organic materias. You need special facilities. And, if you just throw it to the environment, well, it's just become the same plastic trash, polluting it. It's not like ice cube. Turn water to ice cube, and it can melt, become water again. Once you turn algae to plastic, it's not vice versa, as long as the requirement doesn't meet.
These are not bioplastic, they are plastic-like organic materials. Mycelium material turns into soil in about 4 months, look up a very recent study by Elsacker.
@@eueueu91 Really ? Hmm.. so is it better than those green-plastics type ?
Mais si la dégradation du plastique se fait par des champignons, le plastique DEMEURE et reste dans le cycle de la nature, à moins que j'ai pas compris.
We don't need nothing to compete with plastic
We need something who can replace plastic, and ban it
One market at a time, like supermarket bags, should be ban at least the slime ones who only last for 1 ou 2 times
Better if its more accesible...its okay to pay more but sad to say...its not available everywhere..
Spinnova sounds a lot like rayon? Also known as viscose, modal?
Plastic is already made from algae via crude oil. (Most people don't know that crude oil came from buried algae) What will making more plastic from algae accomplish? Just making plastic from biological sources doesn't mean you will no longer have plastic, or that it will be biodegradable.
Make fuel by plastic waste, appriciate to the team who making environment clean
I want to see governments taxing products with higher pollution footprints and spreading that pool of money to subsidizing products with lower pollution footprints. That should tip the economics favorably.
Like I don't want my clothes to disintegrate while they are in the cabinet.
These new materials resemble paper rather than polymers (a.k.a. plastics). They are sold to tree-huggers only because they are more expensive than paper.
Wow
This is a Good Thing Wow 🤩
Why use cotton or wood when you can use hemp or bamboo
Please make seaweed straw or other ways that are more "hygienic" than eating the seaweed packaging whole. The idea to eat the packaging (which might have been passed through unknown number of random hands) is just gross to me. And if it can replace the plastic film in coffee cups that'd be great. I don't need the packaging edible (I eat proper food instead). I would love the packaging biodegradable.
If the plastic companies had to pay to clean up all their trash I don't think the cost difference would be much.
It be bloody expensive
Love it, now how do I get coca cola to adopt this tech?
Ban plastic. Or at least single-use plastic.
If only single use Plastics were banned from countries, we would have less numbers of Plastic contamination. We maybe need to use more compostable products to give back to the planet instead of take from it. Hopefully these ideas become the future of plastic packaging. It's time to cut back the single packaging.
At this point im convenience everything can be made from mushrooms
Bacon
Packing box
Plastic
Might just well make a rocket out of it
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Interesting, but the problem with plastics are the slums in poor countries without waste management. Otherwise it can be recycled, burned for energy at some point or some can even be composted (with industrial composters). Expensive alternatives won't solve that problem.
Recycling uses up energy which is likely to increase CO2 in the atmosphere and burning increases CO2 directly. It would in my opinion best to avoid this.
if they won't rot then it is a possibility....
HEMP!!!
2nd!
Where are the subsidies from governments 😁 split the oil ones across all these avenues then we can compare
We need to buy less.
Do you have any good examples that you are willing to share with us?
I acutally don't care about any of these plastic alternatives.
What I do care about, is oil companies ending their emissions instead of doubling it.
Way to expensive. Oil is here to stay, All the clothes you wear, plastic, Tesla car, all plastic, kids toys, all plastic, all house water lines and drain pipes plastic. False teeth, plastic, Lego, Billion dollar company, all plastic, etc.
learn how to say the words "nylon" and "algae".
7:34 How about 'Adidas', also. (Good video, though). Narrator: It's ("ah-DEE'-duhs").
how about bamboo?
Waiting for these things to get cheaper to challenge fossil-products? How about charging the full costs of fossil based products and not just the cheap "get it out of the earth" part of it? A global CO2 tax will be NECESSARY if we want to reach even 3°C warming!
I think it's useful that these big brands "dip their toe" in these sustainable solutions, because then they can't pretend that they can't be sustainable. Then we can say to them "great, you did it on a small scale - we believe in your ability to scale it up, because that's the skill that made you a large company!"
What a waste of algae.
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I can definitely see it working with packaging however there is an issue with using it in tubes and wire coating because it attracts rodents that eat it. Car owners have found that out.
Sorry to those who had big hopes for mushrooms but I'm just not a fungi
Could you share your source about the issues car owners had with mycelium? I'm founding a company in this very market, so it would be really helpful.
@@eueueu91 it wasn't specifically with mycelium however Phil Edmonston in a 2015 or 2016 edition of his book Lemon-aid for cars mentioned problems with rodents eating the plant-based coatings on wires and tubing in cars.
These are the roadblocks for all these alternative products that are transformative. Big companies whom are used to using plastic won't integrate them. The cost of making them will be significantly higher than plastic. Politics plays a huge role in promoting such products. Basically, every alternative product that comes out against plastic don't make that much of an impact on plastic.
Yes please.
so.... food and stuff will get bad faster??
algae - mushroom - faster decomposition?
bruh, 1 month for takeout packaging is enough lmao
Good point. Also a great alternative for plastic grocery bags and stuff.
But not so good for factory biscuits and etc.