Jesus Christ died for your sins on the cross. Repent and believe in him or you will be separated from God The Father for all eternity and face hell forever, for all eternity, never ending
Jesus Christ died for your sins on the cross. Repent and believe in him or you will be separated from God The Father for all eternity and face hell forever, for all eternity, never ending
@@treek10k Putting native children into Christian boarding schools and destroying their culture wasn't enough, now you guys have to ruin comic book youtube videos too? That's worth burning in hell for eternity in my book.
I'd love to see the OG history of Green Lantern and Flash. Jay was always a favorite of mine in the Impulse and Wally comics and I love Obsidian and Jade
I know this is not what your going for here, but honestly yes, because of the crazy family tree with the golden age Wonder Woman and Steve Trevor, with Lyta Trevor, Hector hall, Carter and Shiera Hall, (Hawkman and Hawkgirl) and Hank Hall and Dawn Ganger, (Hawk and Dove) would be fantastic to explore.
Jesus Christ died for your sins on the cross. Repent and believe in him or you will be separated from God The Father for all eternity and face hell forever, for all eternity, never ending
11:28 Damn, whoever thought of starting a superman vs superman fight with earth 2 superman hitting post crisis with the same car from issue #1 is a genius
Bro you don’t know how much this means to me rn. I’ve been reading up on a lot of pre-2011 comics. Then reaching into the “Earth 2” version of these characters and tracing them almost to all their last appearances. I really love the JSA and miss when the Trinity was on the team I love the concept of each “age” having its over version of characters.
It doesn't really. Look at DC's _Earth 2_ Golden Age continuity as an Era of Magic (pre WW2). After WW2 it stopped. It didn't end, it stopped (like JSA & All-Star Squadron). And as the War wrapped up, the Paper reform occurred or took affect. And Comics didn't sell as well, cause they weren't being printed as much. Now,,,, Look at (what was) _Earth 1_ the Silver Age as an Era of Science (post WW2). > In the 1950's Gardner Fox & Julie Schwartz revived DC Comics by reintroducing the Same Heroes from 14-16 years earlier. Except now they made small "more sciencey" friendly changes to them (see: Showcase Presents & JLoA). Than in the 1960's, readers started asking (via the letter pages in the back of comics) _"Hey Editors! What happened to the Original versions of these Justice League Characters? Where's the Flash w/ the Tin Hat, Aquaman w/ the Yellow Gloves, The Cooler looking older Green Lantern w/ the cape?"_ > Thus in the mid 1960's they were retroactively re-introduced! These older JSA characters were given Earth 2 as continuity (because the newer scinece versions were selling comics again). While in the pages of JLoA, they started having the JLA cross into the Multiverse & thus meet these other- older versions. Like Earth 2 Robin shows up as 38 yrs old & Grown- wearing A suit that blends Batman's w/ Robin's look & logo (via _JLoA 55_ vol.1). Than the 1986 CRISIS occurred, and all the Earth's were compiled &/or synthesized into One Earth 🌎 = New Earth. A Reset of continuity.. All the Heroes New something had happened, but they weren't sure of what exactly. And back than the Deaths actually counted. At least for awhile (Flash & Supergirl & Earth 3 Lex Luthor). Because _Earth 1_ Supergirl died during the CRISIS. And before the reset. Thus nobody remembered her. But in #MustRead _Superman Batman 7-13 & 19 & Supergirl 1-5_ by _Jeph Loeb,_ they bring her back! Her suspended animation Kryptonian Rocket- finally lands (again essentially). But for the First time Post CRISIS. Which later allowed Barry Allen (the Flash) to return as well. Supergirl's landing also triggered the repopulation of Kryptonite Comets hitting the New Earth. Ref _Superman Batman 45-50_ (more great comics from the early 2000's).
For me, it is the Silver-Bronze Age versions as those were the ones I originally read from old comics sold at thrift shops and still on the racks at department stores that people forgot. But I respect the GA versions much. Thank you for caring so much about these versions. Subbed.
I'd like one of Nightwing, and Wonder woman from earth. really interested on what nightwing is like since he's apparently not as good as his earth 1(?) counterpart
He became his own man after Batman was semi and then officially retired. And his adult Robin costume is one of my favorites. His growing relationship with the Earth 2 Huntress was cut short with the original Crisis too.
It's cause Robin 1 is essentialy Robin 1+. They're the Exact same in origin. When the Earth 2 differential was established {Hey there's two regular Robin's named Dick Greyson} via _JLoA 55._ Thus post the date on _JLoA 55_ thru CRISIS 1986- Earth 2 Robin didn't appear in more than 20 comics in total. Most of which he wasn't A focus of.
@@floorboss And you tend to enjoy reading about a character who isn't overdone. It's like your favorite food or on a larger scale, sex. If you don't do it all the time you really enjoy it when you do.
This is a great video that is very knowledgeable about the original history of the original Superman. Thanks for showing how interesting Superman has always been.
Love these videos (and your power scaling videos of course). I do think Golden Age Wonder Woman would be great to see, though I would like to see a Power Girl video too. I know you mentioned some of her history here so it would probably be best to do it further down the line, but going into detail of Power Girl's life would be nice.
I really love his power levels increase throughout the Golden Age. Like Strength: from being unable to break a impressive structure to merging moons together hard enough to create a new star, or even under a kryptonite disease, casually destroy Earth size planets. Speed also: or only being faster than a locomotive to casually breaking the time barrier, or only leaping 1/8th a mile to actually flying faster than light. And Durability: or being venerable to a bursting shell or knocked out by a high amount of electricity to easily no selling electricity which can turn Everest to ash, atomic explosions , barley feeling planetary explosions and even chilling in the sun (keep in mind this Superman does not get his powers from the sun, his Kryptonians were actually superhumans on Krypton) - not to mention Super Hearing, Vision, Microscopic Vision, Telescopic Vision, X-Ray Vision, EM Vision, Spotlight Vision, Infared Vision, Supersonic Voice projection , Supersonic Whistle, Sense of Touch, Genius IQ (made his suit by himself), Hypnosis, Telepathy, Super Breath, Heat Vision etc. Now, ofcourse there are also Retroactive Golden Age feats (helping the JSA in the nick of time, which included the Spectre, Dr.Fate, GL and Flash) Silver Age/Bronze Age Feats (like knocking out the Earth-One Superman who's power level was extremely powerful) COIE Feats (like destroying an extremely weakened but still star level Anti Monitor) and Infinite Crisis Feats ("shattering space and time" during his fight against the New Earth Superman.... and also only kryptonite from Earth-Two affects him, but since Earth-Two is destroyed...) which made him even more powerful...
In order to get the full Golden Age Superman origin, you need to seek out: • Action Comics #1. This is the debut of Superman, so it introduces the concept of him being an alien from a planet that “died of old age.” It also introduces the orphanage and him growing up and discovering his powers. • Superman #1. This one introduces the Kents, who discovered baby Kal-L and took him to the orphanage, only to take him back when they felt bad for leaving him. • Superman: The Newspaper Dailies. The newspaper dailies actually went into the most depth in explaining the Golden Age Superman’s origin. It dedicated many strips just to Jor-L and Krypton. Then, when it does get to Clark, it’s the first one to really explain in continuity why Clark is a reporter. On his first mission as Superman, he saved 2 people from suffocation for being locked in a bank vault, but he failed to save 2 others. After having read about the deaths in the paper, he feels bad and decides to become a reporter to get stories of people in need more promptly, in order to respond quicker. • Superman: The Sunday Strip newspaper. This one doesn’t really add anything unique that I remember, but it needs to be mentioned for completionist sake If you want to read the Golden Age Origin, you need to seek out reprintings and/or digital copies of Action Comics #1 and Superman #1, as well as Superman: The Dailies, 1939, which I don’t think is available digitally. When you combine all these stories into one, I think you have the definitive origin for Superman
I love this video! This video alone unintentionally cleared up so much confusion for me regarding dcs reboots and why the after events of death metal where so important Plus the idea of Batman using Dick Grayson as the example of a constantly moral and good hero throughout earth 1 & 2 is such a cool idea
Fun Fact: In the All Star Squadron Annual 3 (published in the early 80s but Set in 1940 before the All Star Squadron main series), Superman, Batman, Robin and the other JSAers had their aging rate slowed due to being exposed to some weird radiation thanks to supervillain Ian Karkull. This, combined with his Kryptonian heritage, explains why his energy levels are far beyond a man his age.
The video mentions Golden Age Superman fighting various villains including Brainiac. However, Brainiac did not appear until 1958, a point at which most people assume that the Silver Age has begun. So, I would quibble and say that the Golden Age Superman did not fight Brainiac. There was no Earth-Two (or Golden Age) version of Brainiac.
@@doorsfan173 I would not think so, since the point of the video is the life story of the Golden Age Superman, not the other pre-Crisis Supermen. We don't get any other details of the life of the Silver/Bronze Age (Earth One) Superman, only the Golden Age or Earth Two Superman.
Honestly, they should have kept Earth 1 and Earth two and absorbed the other earths into them. Earth-Two could have gotten Earth-4, Earth 1 could have had Earth-S and Earth X could have been divided between them.
Earth-2 used to be a separate universe. But since the aftermath of Crisis On Infinite Earths. The Gold and Silver Ages have always been a part of the main DC universe, this whole time.
Thanks for the post. With what you have said, much i wasn't aware, of. Kal-L has always been a hero and his appearance in COIE was where i knew him best from. Also, from, "The untold tales of the secret origin of the JSA". The recent "Justice Society: WWII" pays a great homage to him.
After Pre-Crisis Wonder Woman, how about one on the history and re-introduction of Captain America? How Stan Lee and Jack Kirby retconned Cap's 50s appearance and had him instead frozen in ice since after WW2 to the then-present day of the 1960s.
The Orphanage made the Hero relatable. Orphan trains were a thing, With WW1 and the Influenza, and TB epidemics, a lot of children fell into the hands of those institutions in the 20's so a lot of people reading in 1930 would have related to the Orphan status deeply.
Great video! Would definitely love to see videos about the Golden Age Green Lantern, Flash, Hawkman, Hawkgirl, Atom, Green Arrow, Speedy, Robin, Aquaman, Robotman, Vigilante, Plastic Man, and Blackhawks.
Okay, I'm old, I get that. However, I grew up reading Superman and the associated comics since I learned to read in 1962/63. This is a direct contrast to what I grew up with. The original Superman and the rest of the JLA were on Earth one, the JSA was on Earth two, not the other way around. All of these various versions of Earth in the DC Universe makes about as much sense as the Multiverse of Marvel. I accepted that the second dimensional Earth existed in the make believe world of the comics, and even the fifth dimensional world of the Imp Mr. Mxzpitlyk, however it's spelled. But I have trouble with the way these things have evolved, yet, as evidenced by these comments, I still watch the movies, and these videos!! LOL!! Okay, the confused old Dude has said his peace.
thats what he said in the video? Earth - 2 is the JSA and original version. They're called Earth-2 because they're too polite to correct the other Earth despite coming first. Yes, thats canon
The original Superman should always be present in ANY DC Universe as far as I'm concerned. He's the first. The one who started ALL universes as he's the one who started the industry. For him to be gone from the DC Universe is a statement to the lack of respect this character gets from his own company. Marvel hasn't done much better with their original heroes (RE: Marvel Comics #1) also being scarcely considered these days. I'm still waiting for a Superman film that's a period piece starring the original Superman. Now that would be something.
We do have an animated version of the original. It was the beautifully animated Fleischer series which are still considered by many to be the best animated Superman yet. We have yet to see a live action version. Live action is not limiting at all. How is it limiting? That makes no sense. Hell, they could make us "believe a man can fly" back in 1978 and it's only gotten better and more realistic since. In Man of Steel they damn near destroyed most of Metropolis. With today's technology they can accomplish pretty much anything. It's limited only by the imagination. Superman NEEDS a live action feature film that tells the ORIGINAL story of the man of steel from the golden age.
@Will N Really. Haven't seen Wonder Woman then? I suppose Man of Steel didn't work for you either??? How is it that a film "never works for DC" then??? Is it something inherent in those two letters??? I guess they ought to just shut it down then. I'm sorry but your opinion is a bit out there. Thanks anyway.
The original Wonder Woman also gets less attention than she deserves. What a great story arc her life was with a very unique set of details, many if not most of which were also thanks to Earth-Two focus. Great video; wonderful details and perfect visuals. While the Earth-One Superboy was always my favorite comic character, Kal-L was and is my favorite Superman. Nice touch with even details on Powergirl. Can't wait to watch the original Batman video.
You skip the fact that original Superman writer Siegel got replaced during WW2 period. In Original origin Krypton had Kryptonians (early name Kryptonites (not by Siegel), funny per Siegel they were "race of supermen") were portrayed to jump high even on Krypton. But in More Fun Comics 101 in first ever Superboy story there was much more casual version of Kryptonians being as weak on Krypton as Humans on Earth. It was also in original writer's comics where his super abilities got upgrade. Intially he had no super hearing or x-ray vision, then later on he is portrayed hearing people through the roofs and seeing them Also Superman is perhaps one of only characters who's origin got retconed. IN Action Comics #1 he didn't have parents at all and just grew up in orphanage (this detail got carried on to Fleischer cartoons btw), then only in Superman #1 Kents were added to explain why he has double identity (because father said people are scared of his powers so he must hide them) and why he uses them generally for good (because that's what mother, Mary (Martha and Jonathan were also made up by other writers) told him to do when he grows up). Also original Superman didn't care if he killed villains or let them die, he only stopped be lethal completely only after editorial ban in 1941, same with Batman. In fact Superman even was shooting guns as seen in Action Comics #23, first appearance of Lex Luthor. Also Siegel and Shuster came up with concept that will later on become kryptonite, rock that depowers Superman. In 1942 story, that was never officially published by DC (actually National Publications, originally the division that published Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern etc comics was called DC Superman publications and was part of bigger brand known as National Publications, untill all of this was renamed in 70's as DC comics, THAT's why it is "Detective Comics comics" ) so "officially" the radio show came up with kryptonite, even though not really, also originally the rock would depower Superman but power up human (or transit the power, it is not really clear, check "K-Metal from planet Krypton" in google to find and read that story yourself). It was also same comics where Superman would accidentally reveal himself to Lois, element that will be made officially only 50 (!) years later after overall reboot with Crisis on Infinite Earth! (in alternative timelines also known as Imaginary Stories there were many such stories ofc) Also Siegel and Shuster unsuccessfully pitched idea many many years, starting in 1933, only to get success in 1938 (they were writing other comics, some of which had elements that would become core of Superman , even if not under them, like Dr. Occult 1936 comics where he had red cape And was flying, I don't think there are pure Siegel written comics (ie before 1941) where Superman was flying instead of just high jumping, except one continuity mistake. Funny, historically Marvel Comics' Namore was the first to be able to fly, then Captain Marvel (now known as "Shazam") and only then Superman. Also originally Superman never had any relationship with yellow sun. It wasn't his power source. On the other hand there is element that was forgotten , but is Siegel's ie original canon detail, like when Lois Lane got blood transfusion and temporarily gained all Superman powers. In All-Star Superman for example they needed some complex formula for humans to gain powers. But then again, unlike All-Star Superman in any other comics Superman was close to the sun or even flew threw it and never got any decease. The original creator is very important. Image Comics' Invincible had always only ONE guy behind it, Robert Kirkman (and artists), Ultimate Spider-Man always had ONLY Brian Michael Bendis. But characters like Superman in normal comics very soon were tossed from one writer to another, with completely different mindset and approach. And also Superman in particular is very rebootable character, in post-crisis alone he had THREE origins, first by Byrne (where artificial birth on Krypton concept came from and also both Kents being alive during SuperMAN period (originally they were only alive during SuperBOY period) ), then by Waid (who scrapped whole artificial birth concept and therefore whole Death and Return of Superman comics can't work ) and then literally year before new52 it has third reboot by Johns (which made Clark to put his suit for the first time when he was a boy already). Only for new52 to happen and for Superman to have another reboot by Morrison (which was relatively the same as Johns, except no classic suit, and both Kents died before he became Superman just like in Siegel's origin And in Earth 1 ones where you don't count Superboy period in Smallville). Imagine if Spider-Man's Uncle Ben never existed, then if there was same origin as we know where Spider-Man becomes one after Uncle Ben gets mugged and killed, then instead of Uncle Ben getting killed it was Aunt May, then if both Uncle Ben and Aunt May were alive, then were Both killed (and some of these existing simultaneously on parallel Earths). THAT's Superman origins in MAIN non alternative universe comics and that is only one small detail about parents. Not talking about whole Kill or No-Kill (because for Main line it goes this : Earth 2 Killed, Earth 1 Absolutely No-Kills (Alan Moore's stories are Imaginary too, non canon), post-Crisis Byrne - killed but stopped Waid - no-kills unless some writers "remember" Byrne timeline still, Johns - killed and No-kills, New52 - killed , Rebirth & Reborn All of these are canon simultaneously even though they contradict each other. That's DC Comics.
Wow, I did not know Superboy trained Superman. I was an avid comic book reader since the sixties. In the Max Fleischer cartoons Superman jumped a lot. Much like in the original comic books.
I AM SUPRISED THAT YOU WOULD WORK SUCH STORY LINE LINE SO WELL THANK YOU THE WAY YOU TREATED SUPERMAN. ITS SO HARD THE WAY THEY HANDLE THE GOLDEN AGE HEROS.
it's really fitting and nice both the original superman and batman both lived and died deaths with them both going out as they should, fighting. Nowadays comics fs have a circular storytelling (tho stuff like death metal sorta makes an attempt explain progress has been made) but it's interesting to think now long ago comics were moving in a linear fashion (e.g. wally west taking over as barry allen)
Went into this video thinking "Oh yeah, only 15 minutes not bad". I ended up taking over an hour & a half to watch due to researching & reading. Since I realised I have completely forgotten the entire history of DC Comic's continutity lol.
The reason the post crisis version is seen as the definitive version, instead of the original Superman, is because the original was around for 30 years before the Silver Age came and changed things, but the post crisis version is almost 40 years old now. I absolutely loved both characters, and was very angry when they killed the original Superman of Earth 2 in Infinite Crisis. Infinite Crisis really hacked me off. It's bad enough they killed KaL-L, but they also killed off the original Robin, Batman, Huntress, and Blue Beetle. Obviously, some were killed in the original Crisis. I'm still irritated by that. I wish that DC would have brought back Earth 2 and all the original heroes in Infinite Crisis. I loved the heroes of Earth 2, and the JSA, as well as their children in Infinity Inc. I really wish they'd bring them back. It was a mistake to get rid of the multiverse to begin with.
I'm glad I clicked on this video. Continuity is one of those things that only works when you commit to it and DC has not. You'll notice all the movies of the MCU have a specific place in their timeline and everything makes sense with regards to everything else, pedantic casual fans say that doesn't matter but many of their best films couldn't have happened without characters growing from past events which subsequent chapters acknowledge actually happened. But DC isn't good at that at all hence the best DC stories are the one of a kind things that happen in their own little world, like a limited series, graphic novel, sometimes with follow ups or a really good run from a particular writer. But there was this wonderful time following Crisis on Infinite Earth's when everything did make sense and it's too bad they never stuck to that superior form of storytelling.
*Superman was created back in 1932 without weakness during the years he gained every ability thinkable and later over the years he became SPOM ) ( There's 227 superman variations and 5 SPOM variasions)*
Can you do how powerful comic Spider-Man video is and explain why his apparent outliers are just him not holding back at all because it’s pretty consistent to the his strength in the comics
Can you make a review of the PRE-CRISIS SUPERBOY .how he would time travel to the 31st centuries LEGION OF SUPERHEROES .then eventually evolve into the forgotten. silver age Superman . Because this is a story that really needs to be told.
For some reason I got into the mindset that the original Superman's arch nemesis was the ultra human Knight the person who originally put his brain in the body of a gorilla
GOOD NEWS= OG Superman aka Goloden Age SUperman lives on in Kingdom Come. The are the same. This was debated back in the 1990's. THE 90'S!!!! And im sure it's still debated. So it's up to you the reader to decide. I say it is & i always said OG Superman is the strongest.
11:49 Golden age Stories were not very happy, simple and go lucky they had lots of Dark elements for example Clark saved Larry from committing suicide in issue 2 of Superman , then clark tried to save a crazy car speedster who killed many people before hand but his car was stuck in middle of the Rail track and when Clark Saved the guy the Shock gave the driver a heart and he died, Clark Failed to save a Person. Frankie the kid from issue 3 of Superman he was abused by the Orphanage Owner.
Being they merged new 52 superman with prime earth / post crisis, 1986 superman , and mucked up his origins, the need to do the same with Golden age and silver/ bronze age. Superman. Since in action comics 1067 they are bringing back the black and red S shield which is golden age.and proves it was made by pa and Clark as in Man of Steel miniseries and not some symbol from a dead planet. As we saw in 2005 superman returns . The symbol needs to be Earth's symbol of hope by way of what Clark made on earth for his costume. Need to stop messing with the origins and changing it all the time. Great video , ty for this. Starting a small collection on the Original superman.
Loved the video and the concept. If you can't tell by my profile name I'm a HUGE Aquaman fan so if you could find it in your heart of hearts to do an ORIGINAL HISTORY video on Aquaman that would be amazing. There's some major difference between golden age and now and I love every rendition of him. Have a great day! 🤙🏻
10:02 What was the point of that question? From what I was able to find, Earth 2's Grayson was just as consistent a hero as the main one. The implication here is that he goes evil or "anti-hero" at some point but he never does, so why did Superman say "no" like that while making a regretful expression? It kind of gives off that they created an artificial conflict that didn't need to exist.
It was Batman asking if there was any chance that the Earth-2 Dick Grayson is any "better" than his. OG Superman proposals hinges on the fact that virtually everyone would be morally better people if converged with his world but will still require post-crisis earth to essentially disappear. Batman would take OG Superman on the offer if it meant that a more morally just Dick would exist in place of his. Superman regretfully says no because this tells Batman that he would essentially sacrifice his son for the exact same one that he did not raise. In essence, Batman would not throw away the existence of his universe’s son if it did not allow him having a more righteous and better existence.
I wish they would explore the DC superheroes having all their Pre-Crisis memories back. Also, I would like to see a video on Power Girl and the Earth-2 Wonder Woman.
Superboy. Goes back in time to coach Earth two Superman . When was that origin thrown in there . I can’t recall that. But it would have been great to do some modern retro stories of OG SUPERMAN.
The original OG
The original original gangster
How did you gather all of this information? Did read most of those comic or did you chose a different approach? Sorry if the questions are dumb.
Jesus Christ died for your sins on the cross. Repent and believe in him or you will be separated from God The Father for all eternity and face hell forever, for all eternity, never ending
Needed this. Too easy it is to fall into the “superman is boring” train of thought. Mans is a true legacy all on his own
Amen.
Jesus Christ died for your sins on the cross. Repent and believe in him or you will be separated from God The Father for all eternity and face hell forever, for all eternity, never ending
@@treek10k Putting native children into Christian boarding schools and destroying their culture wasn't enough, now you guys have to ruin comic book youtube videos too? That's worth burning in hell for eternity in my book.
"mans"?
What's your problem?
Congratulations gave you your 400th like
I'd love to see the OG history of Green Lantern and Flash. Jay was always a favorite of mine in the Impulse and Wally comics and I love Obsidian and Jade
I’d love to hear more about Alan Scott idk that much about him
BROO GIVE ME A FLASH ONE ILL LOSE IT
Yes, definitely do the original Wonder Woman. Take a deep dive into those stories -- lots to explore. 😉
Ahhh I get you 😂
Ropes 💀
I know this is not what your going for here, but honestly yes, because of the crazy family tree with the golden age Wonder Woman and Steve Trevor, with Lyta Trevor, Hector hall, Carter and Shiera Hall, (Hawkman and Hawkgirl) and Hank Hall and Dawn Ganger, (Hawk and Dove) would be fantastic to explore.
@@MurdochCreates the new dream is their grandson right
Jesus Christ died for your sins on the cross. Repent and believe in him or you will be separated from God The Father for all eternity and face hell forever, for all eternity, never ending
11:28
Damn, whoever thought of starting a superman vs superman fight with earth 2 superman hitting post crisis with the same car from issue #1 is a genius
Yeah but ...post crisis supes is no where near the power level of golden age earth 2 supes....this should have been explained...
@@wxsuperman38
Yup, Silver Age > Golden Age >>>>>> Post Crisis (which is Silver Age version but memories altered and powers rebalanced)
Social Account Read Infinite Crisis Trade Paper Back. I really enjoyed it. I especially liked when OG Wonder Woman talks to the new Wonder Woman.
@@wxsuperman38no , Earth 0 Superman is actually stronger
Classic Superman was such a cool character I always liked powergirl as well.
Bro you don’t know how much this means to me rn. I’ve been reading up on a lot of pre-2011 comics. Then reaching into the “Earth 2” version of these characters and tracing them almost to all their last appearances.
I really love the JSA and miss when the Trinity was on the team
I love the concept of each “age” having its over version of characters.
@Will N you can’t survive anything if you are dead
@Will N none of the writers will think that far
It doesn't really. Look at DC's _Earth 2_ Golden Age continuity as an Era of Magic (pre WW2). After WW2 it stopped. It didn't end, it stopped (like JSA & All-Star Squadron). And as the War wrapped up, the Paper reform occurred or took affect. And Comics didn't sell as well, cause they weren't being printed as much.
Now,,,,
Look at (what was) _Earth 1_ the Silver Age as an Era of Science (post WW2).
> In the 1950's Gardner Fox & Julie Schwartz revived DC Comics by reintroducing the Same Heroes from 14-16 years earlier. Except now they made small "more sciencey" friendly changes to them (see: Showcase Presents & JLoA). Than in the 1960's, readers started asking (via the letter pages in the back of comics) _"Hey Editors! What happened to the Original versions of these Justice League Characters? Where's the Flash w/ the Tin Hat, Aquaman w/ the Yellow Gloves, The Cooler looking older Green Lantern w/ the cape?"_
> Thus in the mid 1960's they were retroactively re-introduced! These older JSA characters were given Earth 2 as continuity (because the newer scinece versions were selling comics again). While in the pages of JLoA, they started having the JLA cross into the Multiverse & thus meet these other- older versions. Like Earth 2 Robin shows up as 38 yrs old & Grown- wearing A suit that blends Batman's w/ Robin's look & logo (via _JLoA 55_ vol.1). Than the 1986 CRISIS occurred, and all the Earth's were compiled &/or synthesized into One Earth 🌎 = New Earth. A Reset of continuity.. All the Heroes New something had happened, but they weren't sure of what exactly. And back than the Deaths actually counted. At least for awhile (Flash & Supergirl & Earth 3 Lex Luthor).
Because _Earth 1_ Supergirl died during the CRISIS. And before the reset. Thus nobody remembered her. But in #MustRead _Superman Batman 7-13 & 19 & Supergirl 1-5_ by _Jeph Loeb,_ they bring her back! Her suspended animation Kryptonian Rocket- finally lands (again essentially). But for the First time Post CRISIS. Which later allowed Barry Allen (the Flash) to return as well. Supergirl's landing also triggered the repopulation of Kryptonite Comets hitting the New Earth. Ref _Superman Batman 45-50_ (more great comics from the early 2000's).
For me, it is the Silver-Bronze Age versions as those were the ones I originally read from old comics sold at thrift shops and still on the racks at department stores that people forgot. But I respect the GA versions much. Thank you for caring so much about these versions. Subbed.
I'd like one of Nightwing, and Wonder woman from earth. really interested on what nightwing is like since he's apparently not as good as his earth 1(?) counterpart
on earth 2 Dick never became Nightwing
It’s not that he’s not as good, it’s just Earth 2 Dick isn’t a better man; he’s likely just as noble but no more than that.
OG robin is ALWAYS ROBIN that means Robin is dick's identity not Batman's sidekick identity,so Jason Todd-Damian is STUPID!
It's that both are good.
Loved this
Please do more OG Earth-2 characters!
I'd like to see you do one over Earth-2 Robin. That Dick Grayson's life veered away in so different a direction from that of his Earth-1 counterpart.
He became his own man after Batman was semi and then officially retired. And his adult Robin costume is one of my favorites. His growing relationship with the Earth 2 Huntress was cut short with the original Crisis too.
It's cause Robin 1 is essentialy Robin 1+. They're the Exact same in origin. When the Earth 2 differential was established {Hey there's two regular Robin's named Dick Greyson} via _JLoA 55._ Thus post the date on _JLoA 55_ thru CRISIS 1986- Earth 2 Robin didn't appear in more than 20 comics in total. Most of which he wasn't A focus of.
@@floorboss And you tend to enjoy reading about a character who isn't overdone. It's like your favorite food or on a larger scale, sex. If you don't do it all the time you really enjoy it when you do.
This is a great video that is very knowledgeable about the original history of the original Superman. Thanks for showing how interesting Superman has always been.
Love these videos (and your power scaling videos of course). I do think Golden Age Wonder Woman would be great to see, though I would like to see a Power Girl video too. I know you mentioned some of her history here so it would probably be best to do it further down the line, but going into detail of Power Girl's life would be nice.
OG Superman death is one the saddest comic deaths for me. Great video. Thank You.
I really love his power levels increase throughout the Golden Age.
Like Strength: from being unable to break a impressive structure to merging moons together hard enough to create a new star, or even under a kryptonite disease, casually destroy Earth size planets.
Speed also: or only being faster than a locomotive to casually breaking the time barrier, or only leaping 1/8th a mile to actually flying faster than light.
And Durability: or being venerable to a bursting shell or knocked out by a high amount of electricity to easily no selling electricity which can turn Everest to ash, atomic explosions , barley feeling planetary explosions and even chilling in the sun (keep in mind this Superman does not get his powers from the sun, his Kryptonians were actually superhumans on Krypton)
- not to mention Super Hearing, Vision, Microscopic Vision, Telescopic Vision, X-Ray Vision, EM Vision, Spotlight Vision, Infared Vision, Supersonic Voice projection , Supersonic Whistle, Sense of Touch, Genius IQ (made his suit by himself), Hypnosis, Telepathy, Super Breath, Heat Vision etc.
Now, ofcourse there are also Retroactive Golden Age feats (helping the JSA in the nick of time, which included the Spectre, Dr.Fate, GL and Flash) Silver Age/Bronze Age Feats (like knocking out the Earth-One Superman who's power level was extremely powerful) COIE Feats (like destroying an extremely weakened but still star level Anti Monitor) and Infinite Crisis Feats ("shattering space and time" during his fight against the New Earth Superman.... and also only kryptonite from Earth-Two affects him, but since Earth-Two is destroyed...)
which made him even more powerful...
In order to get the full Golden Age Superman origin, you need to seek out:
• Action Comics #1. This is the debut of Superman, so it introduces the concept of him being an alien from a planet that “died of old age.” It also introduces the orphanage and him growing up and discovering his powers.
• Superman #1. This one introduces the Kents, who discovered baby Kal-L and took him to the orphanage, only to take him back when they felt bad for leaving him.
• Superman: The Newspaper Dailies. The newspaper dailies actually went into the most depth in explaining the Golden Age Superman’s origin. It dedicated many strips just to Jor-L and Krypton. Then, when it does get to Clark, it’s the first one to really explain in continuity why Clark is a reporter. On his first mission as Superman, he saved 2 people from suffocation for being locked in a bank vault, but he failed to save 2 others. After having read about the deaths in the paper, he feels bad and decides to become a reporter to get stories of people in need more promptly, in order to respond quicker.
• Superman: The Sunday Strip newspaper. This one doesn’t really add anything unique that I remember, but it needs to be mentioned for completionist sake
If you want to read the Golden Age Origin, you need to seek out reprintings and/or digital copies of Action Comics #1 and Superman #1, as well as Superman: The Dailies, 1939, which I don’t think is available digitally. When you combine all these stories into one, I think you have the definitive origin for Superman
The Superman newspaper strip (and most others) actually takes place on the Pre-Crisis Earth-N according to the intro of the Wonder Woman dailies book.
I love this video!
This video alone unintentionally cleared up so much confusion for me regarding dcs reboots and why the after events of death metal where so important
Plus the idea of Batman using Dick Grayson as the example of a constantly moral and good hero throughout earth 1 & 2 is such a cool idea
14:33 Can we please get a golden age Wonder Woman video to complete the trinity?
Yeah that's one thing that a lot of people seem to overlook. For Batman one of the most important things to his universe is his family.
I love these "Life and Death" videos. Could you do one on Earth Two's Dr Fate?
Fun Fact: In the All Star Squadron Annual 3 (published in the early 80s but Set in 1940 before the All Star Squadron main series), Superman, Batman, Robin and the other JSAers had their aging rate slowed due to being exposed to some weird radiation thanks to supervillain Ian Karkull. This, combined with his Kryptonian heritage, explains why his energy levels are far beyond a man his age.
The video mentions Golden Age Superman fighting various villains including Brainiac. However, Brainiac did not appear until 1958, a point at which most people assume that the Silver Age has begun. So, I would quibble and say that the Golden Age Superman did not fight Brainiac. There was no Earth-Two (or Golden Age) version of Brainiac.
Could he be using Golden Age as a catch-all term for pre-crisis Superman? You're absolutely right about the dates, just wondering.
@@doorsfan173 I would not think so, since the point of the video is the life story of the Golden Age Superman, not the other pre-Crisis Supermen. We don't get any other details of the life of the Silver/Bronze Age (Earth One) Superman, only the Golden Age or Earth Two Superman.
@@SimonMoon5 gotcha, thanks.
Common Crisis W, especially with the thumbnail
Honestly, they should have kept Earth 1 and Earth two and absorbed the other earths into them. Earth-Two could have gotten Earth-4, Earth 1 could have had Earth-S and Earth X could have been divided between them.
Great idea
Earth-2 used to be a separate universe. But since the aftermath of Crisis On Infinite Earths. The Gold and Silver Ages have always been a part of the main DC universe, this whole time.
Thanks for the post. With what you have said, much i wasn't aware, of. Kal-L has always been a hero and his appearance in COIE was where i knew him best from. Also, from, "The untold tales of the secret origin of the JSA". The recent "Justice Society: WWII" pays a great homage to him.
Oh that Shakespeare guy was kal l
You gotta do more of these. These universes are so convoluted to the layman like me so it’s so nice to see an actual beginning and end.
After Pre-Crisis Wonder Woman, how about one on the history and re-introduction of Captain America? How Stan Lee and Jack Kirby retconned Cap's 50s appearance and had him instead frozen in ice since after WW2 to the then-present day of the 1960s.
The Orphanage made the Hero relatable. Orphan trains were a thing, With WW1 and the Influenza, and TB epidemics, a lot of children fell into the hands of those institutions in the 20's so a lot of people reading in 1930 would have related to the Orphan status deeply.
Are you doing the whole justice league? Specifically the core members? If so that’s awesome. Im enjoying these types of videos.
Great video! Would definitely love to see videos about the Golden Age Green Lantern, Flash, Hawkman, Hawkgirl, Atom, Green Arrow, Speedy, Robin, Aquaman, Robotman, Vigilante, Plastic Man, and Blackhawks.
Okay, I'm old, I get that. However, I grew up reading Superman and the associated comics since I learned to read in 1962/63. This is a direct contrast to what I grew up with. The original Superman and the rest of the JLA were on Earth one, the JSA was on Earth two, not the other way around. All of these various versions of Earth in the DC Universe makes about as much sense as the Multiverse of Marvel. I accepted that the second dimensional Earth existed in the make believe world of the comics, and even the fifth dimensional world of the Imp Mr. Mxzpitlyk, however it's spelled. But I have trouble with the way these things have evolved, yet, as evidenced by these comments, I still watch the movies, and these videos!! LOL!! Okay, the confused old Dude has said his peace.
thats what he said in the video? Earth - 2 is the JSA and original version. They're called Earth-2 because they're too polite to correct the other Earth despite coming first. Yes, thats canon
"They will stumble, they will fall, but in time, they will join you in the sun, Kal." - Jor - El.
The original Superman should always be present in ANY DC Universe as far as I'm concerned. He's the first. The one who started ALL universes as he's the one who started the industry. For him to be gone from the DC Universe is a statement to the lack of respect this character gets from his own company. Marvel hasn't done much better with their original heroes (RE: Marvel Comics #1) also being scarcely considered these days.
I'm still waiting for a Superman film that's a period piece starring the original Superman. Now that would be something.
That would be awesome
We do have an animated version of the original. It was the beautifully animated Fleischer series which are still considered by many to be the best animated Superman yet.
We have yet to see a live action version. Live action is not limiting at all. How is it limiting? That makes no sense. Hell, they could make us "believe a man can fly" back in 1978 and it's only gotten better and more realistic since. In Man of Steel they damn near destroyed most of Metropolis. With today's technology they can accomplish pretty much anything. It's limited only by the imagination.
Superman NEEDS a live action feature film that tells the ORIGINAL story of the man of steel from the golden age.
@Will N Really. Haven't seen Wonder Woman then? I suppose Man of Steel didn't work for you either??? How is it that a film "never works for DC" then??? Is it something inherent in those two letters??? I guess they ought to just shut it down then. I'm sorry but your opinion is a bit out there. Thanks anyway.
Yeah you go with that. Enjoy your cartoons.
The original Wonder Woman also gets less attention than she deserves. What a great story arc her life was with a very unique set of details, many if not most of which were also thanks to Earth-Two focus. Great video; wonderful details and perfect visuals. While the Earth-One Superboy was always my favorite comic character, Kal-L was and is my favorite Superman. Nice touch with even details on Powergirl. Can't wait to watch the original Batman video.
Nowadays with narrow minded views on the past and treating older work, kind of sad.
Great video, and especially great thumbnail 👍👍
You skip the fact that original Superman writer Siegel got replaced during WW2 period.
In Original origin Krypton had Kryptonians (early name Kryptonites (not by Siegel), funny per Siegel they were "race of supermen") were portrayed to jump high even on Krypton. But in More Fun Comics 101 in first ever Superboy story there was much more casual version of Kryptonians being as weak on Krypton as Humans on Earth.
It was also in original writer's comics where his super abilities got upgrade. Intially he had no super hearing or x-ray vision, then later on he is portrayed hearing people through the roofs and seeing them
Also Superman is perhaps one of only characters who's origin got retconed. IN Action Comics #1 he didn't have parents at all and just grew up in orphanage (this detail got carried on to Fleischer cartoons btw), then only in Superman #1 Kents were added to explain why he has double identity (because father said people are scared of his powers so he must hide them) and why he uses them generally for good (because that's what mother, Mary (Martha and Jonathan were also made up by other writers) told him to do when he grows up). Also original Superman didn't care if he killed villains or let them die, he only stopped be lethal completely only after editorial ban in 1941, same with Batman. In fact Superman even was shooting guns as seen in Action Comics #23, first appearance of Lex Luthor.
Also Siegel and Shuster came up with concept that will later on become kryptonite, rock that depowers Superman. In 1942 story, that was never officially published by DC (actually National Publications, originally the division that published Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern etc comics was called DC Superman publications and was part of bigger brand known as National Publications, untill all of this was renamed in 70's as DC comics, THAT's why it is "Detective Comics comics" ) so "officially" the radio show came up with kryptonite, even though not really, also originally the rock would depower Superman but power up human (or transit the power, it is not really clear, check "K-Metal from planet Krypton" in google to find and read that story yourself). It was also same comics where Superman would accidentally reveal himself to Lois, element that will be made officially only 50 (!) years later after overall reboot with Crisis on Infinite Earth! (in alternative timelines also known as Imaginary Stories there were many such stories ofc)
Also Siegel and Shuster unsuccessfully pitched idea many many years, starting in 1933, only to get success in 1938 (they were writing other comics, some of which had elements that would become core of Superman , even if not under them, like Dr. Occult 1936 comics where he had red cape And was flying, I don't think there are pure Siegel written comics (ie before 1941) where Superman was flying instead of just high jumping, except one continuity mistake. Funny, historically Marvel Comics' Namore was the first to be able to fly, then Captain Marvel (now known as "Shazam") and only then Superman.
Also originally Superman never had any relationship with yellow sun. It wasn't his power source.
On the other hand there is element that was forgotten , but is Siegel's ie original canon detail, like when Lois Lane got blood transfusion and temporarily gained all Superman powers. In All-Star Superman for example they needed some complex formula for humans to gain powers. But then again, unlike All-Star Superman in any other comics Superman was close to the sun or even flew threw it and never got any decease.
The original creator is very important. Image Comics' Invincible had always only ONE guy behind it, Robert Kirkman (and artists), Ultimate Spider-Man always had ONLY Brian Michael Bendis. But characters like Superman in normal comics very soon were tossed from one writer to another, with completely different mindset and approach. And also Superman in particular is very rebootable character, in post-crisis alone he had THREE origins, first by Byrne (where artificial birth on Krypton concept came from and also both Kents being alive during SuperMAN period (originally they were only alive during SuperBOY period) ), then by Waid (who scrapped whole artificial birth concept and therefore whole Death and Return of Superman comics can't work ) and then literally year before new52 it has third reboot by Johns (which made Clark to put his suit for the first time when he was a boy already). Only for new52 to happen and for Superman to have another reboot by Morrison (which was relatively the same as Johns, except no classic suit, and both Kents died before he became Superman just like in Siegel's origin And in Earth 1 ones where you don't count Superboy period in Smallville).
Imagine if Spider-Man's Uncle Ben never existed, then if there was same origin as we know where Spider-Man becomes one after Uncle Ben gets mugged and killed, then instead of Uncle Ben getting killed it was Aunt May, then if both Uncle Ben and Aunt May were alive, then were Both killed (and some of these existing simultaneously on parallel Earths). THAT's Superman origins in MAIN non alternative universe comics and that is only one small detail about parents. Not talking about whole Kill or No-Kill (because for Main line it goes this : Earth 2 Killed, Earth 1 Absolutely No-Kills (Alan Moore's stories are Imaginary too, non canon), post-Crisis Byrne - killed but stopped Waid - no-kills unless some writers "remember" Byrne timeline still, Johns - killed and No-kills, New52 - killed , Rebirth & Reborn All of these are canon simultaneously even though they contradict each other. That's DC Comics.
Awesome bro
bro... just touch grass
Too many retcons isn't?
Jonathan calls his wife Mary during the 'travelling circus' row......Batman shrieks 'WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?'
Wow, I did not know Superboy trained Superman. I was an avid comic book reader since the sixties. In the Max Fleischer cartoons Superman jumped a lot. Much like in the original comic books.
Wow. I need more Superman content for sure, I can’t get enough of these videos.
I AM SUPRISED THAT YOU WOULD WORK SUCH STORY LINE LINE SO WELL THANK YOU THE WAY YOU TREATED SUPERMAN. ITS SO HARD THE WAY THEY HANDLE THE GOLDEN AGE HEROS.
This video is EXCELLENT.
Clear and easy to understand! I want more!!!
it's really fitting and nice both the original superman and batman both lived and died deaths with them both going out as they should, fighting. Nowadays comics fs have a circular storytelling (tho stuff like death metal sorta makes an attempt explain progress has been made) but it's interesting to think now long ago comics were moving in a linear fashion (e.g. wally west taking over as barry allen)
Ayeeeeee yooooooo we finna get a round two🥹
I just call him "Grandapa Superman".
another banger. Wonder Woman would be awesome, but I'd love to hear more about Alan Scott
I need to hear what happened to the original Wonder Woman. I’m pretty sure her and Steve Trevor have a child in Sandman.
Ollie Connors LOL. Fury. I like her old pre-crisis version.
Jay garrick is my favourite superhero, seeing his story in this format would be awesome!
Went into this video thinking "Oh yeah, only 15 minutes not bad". I ended up taking over an hour & a half to watch due to researching & reading. Since I realised I have completely forgotten the entire history of DC Comic's continutity lol.
10:43 Dammit, i love the art of Jerry Ordway.
Any chance of a video featuring the Silver Age Superman?
His last words being...
Peter Griffin Voice: "Lois"
Is it a bird is it a plane no its superman!🦸♂️
The reason the post crisis version is seen as the definitive version, instead of the original Superman, is because the original was around for 30 years before the Silver Age came and changed things, but the post crisis version is almost 40 years old now. I absolutely loved both characters, and was very angry when they killed the original Superman
of Earth 2 in Infinite Crisis. Infinite Crisis really hacked me off. It's bad enough they killed KaL-L, but they also killed off the original Robin, Batman, Huntress, and Blue Beetle. Obviously, some were killed in the original Crisis. I'm still irritated by that. I wish that DC would have brought back Earth 2 and all the original heroes in Infinite Crisis. I loved the heroes of Earth 2, and the JSA, as well as their children in Infinity Inc. I really wish they'd bring them back. It was a mistake to get rid of the multiverse to begin with.
I'm glad I clicked on this video. Continuity is one of those things that only works when you commit to it and DC has not. You'll notice all the movies of the MCU have a specific place in their timeline and everything makes sense with regards to everything else, pedantic casual fans say that doesn't matter but many of their best films couldn't have happened without characters growing from past events which subsequent chapters acknowledge actually happened. But DC isn't good at that at all hence the best DC stories are the one of a kind things that happen in their own little world, like a limited series, graphic novel, sometimes with follow ups or a really good run from a particular writer. But there was this wonderful time following Crisis on Infinite Earth's when everything did make sense and it's too bad they never stuck to that superior form of storytelling.
Dude keep doing these please I love them
Please keep doing these
These videos are so thorough! Lot of work put into such interesting, informative videos!
Really enjoyed this and the Batman video. Keep it up.👍
*Superman was created back in 1932 without weakness during the years he gained every ability thinkable and later over the years he became SPOM ) ( There's 227 superman variations and 5 SPOM variasions)*
Fine video That whole Atlantean Power Girl/ she tried to date her cousin/ surrogate dad/ forget the Krypton thing is just crazy.
Can you do how powerful comic Spider-Man video is and explain why his apparent outliers are just him not holding back at all because it’s pretty consistent to the his strength in the comics
I would love to see a series playlist for your "The Original History Of" videos.
Love your channel you even did some vids on my favorite version of star wars aka legends
would love to see something on the original green lantern, something about him was always so interesting to me as a kid
HAWKMAN. That would bend everyone's brain lol
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Can you make a review of the PRE-CRISIS SUPERBOY .how he would time travel to the 31st centuries LEGION OF SUPERHEROES .then eventually evolve into the forgotten. silver age Superman . Because this is a story that really needs to be told.
Man Infinite Crisis was awesome.
Excellent work. I’ve also heard that this original Superman IS the Superman from the 1970’s “Superfriends” cartoon 👍👍👍
For some reason I got into the mindset that the original Superman's arch nemesis was the ultra human Knight the person who originally put his brain in the body of a gorilla
Subscribed for this content. I love the OG Golden Age endings of superheroes. Pretty fascinating.
GOOD NEWS= OG Superman aka Goloden Age SUperman lives on in Kingdom Come.
The are the same. This was debated back in the 1990's.
THE 90'S!!!! And im sure it's still debated.
So it's up to you the reader to decide.
I say it is & i always said OG Superman is the strongest.
Crisis can you do another if dc and marvel shared a cinematic universe?
The Alien Boy Scout whose humanity we all aspire to. Salute!
Keep doing earth 2 Golding age hero’s and villains bro
Can't wait for a Wonder Woman video!
DC cannon is soo hard to wrap my head around, this helps though.
More! 😍👍 All earth Two héroes biographys!! Golden age! Marvelous works!
Now that Sandman is out I'd like to hear about Wonder Woman and Fury
@Will N I know! I did some research back when I first read Sandman, and I think the JSA thing was happening back then? Not sure, it's been a while
11:49 Golden age Stories were not very happy, simple and go lucky they had lots of Dark elements for example Clark saved Larry from committing suicide in issue 2 of Superman , then clark tried to save a crazy car speedster who killed many people before hand but his car was stuck in middle of the Rail track and when Clark Saved the guy the Shock gave the driver a heart and he died, Clark Failed to save a Person.
Frankie the kid from issue 3 of Superman he was abused by the Orphanage Owner.
Good video but the light effect you made rolling over the images is really annoying. It would be better without.
His story is so sad when you think about it
I can't believe the treatment they gave the original Superman! Great video, though!
The Legion Of Superheroes Members List
(Marvel and DC)
1.Superman(Clark Kent/Kal-El)
2.Iron Man(Tony Stark)
3.Mr.Fantastic(Reed Richards)
4.Hulk(Bruce Banner)
5.Wolverine(James Howlett Logan)
6.Moon Knight(Marc Spector)
7.Phoenix(Jean Grey)
8.Scarlet Witch(Wanda Maximoff)
9.Storm(Ororo Munroe)
10.Psylocke(Elizabeth Braddock)
11.Captain Marvel(Carol Danvers)
Being they merged new 52 superman with prime earth / post crisis, 1986 superman , and mucked up his origins, the need to do the same with Golden age and silver/ bronze age. Superman. Since in action comics 1067 they are bringing back the black and red S shield which is golden age.and proves it was made by pa and Clark as in Man of Steel miniseries and not some symbol from a dead planet. As we saw in 2005 superman returns . The symbol needs to be Earth's symbol of hope by way of what Clark made on earth for his costume. Need to stop messing with the origins and changing it all the time. Great video , ty for this. Starting a small collection on the Original superman.
Loved the video and the concept. If you can't tell by my profile name I'm a HUGE Aquaman fan so if you could find it in your heart of hearts to do an ORIGINAL HISTORY video on Aquaman that would be amazing. There's some major difference between golden age and now and I love every rendition of him. Have a great day! 🤙🏻
This could serve as the template for an amazing graphic novel.
Nightwing please Nightwing
10:02 What was the point of that question? From what I was able to find, Earth 2's Grayson was just as consistent a hero as the main one. The implication here is that he goes evil or "anti-hero" at some point but he never does, so why did Superman say "no" like that while making a regretful expression? It kind of gives off that they created an artificial conflict that didn't need to exist.
It was Batman asking if there was any chance that the Earth-2 Dick Grayson is any "better" than his. OG Superman proposals hinges on the fact that virtually everyone would be morally better people if converged with his world but will still require post-crisis earth to essentially disappear. Batman would take OG Superman on the offer if it meant that a more morally just Dick would exist in place of his. Superman regretfully says no because this tells Batman that he would essentially sacrifice his son for the exact same one that he did not raise. In essence, Batman would not throw away the existence of his universe’s son if it did not allow him having a more righteous and better existence.
I love these OG origins!!! Can the next one be the OG Spiderman
I think the "og spiderman" is the same as the one nkw
The Spider-Man that debuted in the 60's is the same one we have today. Marvel do seem to have a consistent continuity than DC in that regard.
Marvel doesn't have reboots
I wish they would explore the DC superheroes having all their Pre-Crisis memories back. Also, I would like to see a video on Power Girl and the Earth-2 Wonder Woman.
they have.
great video! thank you!
I hope you can talk about the original wonder woman, that way you essentially have the life and death of the original trinity.
Amazing video
I would like to see history videos on Green Lantern alan scott or Kent Nelson Doctor fate or golden age Green Arrow Oliver Queen
Superboy. Goes back in time to coach Earth two Superman . When was that origin thrown in there . I can’t recall that. But it would have been great to do some modern retro stories of OG SUPERMAN.
That was fucking complicated
that was beautiful and inspiring.
If there’s one of OG Captain America that would be fun
I wish I could read Golden and Silver Age Superman had interesting stories