@ it’s Sabrina haha. I know she has violet eyes but I didn’t have any contacts like that so I just went with green, to match the hair. Will upload some photos on my twitter and maybe on TH-cam too 😁
If trading makes it easier for newer players to make the decks that they want more quickly, that is a huge win ... Even if it doesn't help with getting full art cards.
trading was always going to do that, so this is the worst of all scenarios. the fact it helps the stingy and broke people that don't finance the game is irrelevant. Does it please the paying client base? No
It's not a huge win. Stingy / broke players that don't spend any money on the game don't matter. The people that spend the money are the ones that keep the game going and make it possible for everyone. Brokies need the Whales the Whales don't need the brokies.
So you're selfish and unable to do basic maths. If stingy people like you who can't afford to spend any money on the game get what you want... but it annoys all the people who can actually afford to fund the game in the process... Then the people who are paying for the game won't want to pay for it anymore. In a marketplace the opinions of people with no money are worth nothing
I mostly expected two stars and above to be excluded from trades. The real question is if we are allowed to trade the promo rare cards. I started the game late and missed the first promos (Lapras, Clefairy etc.)
I think you mean chansey 😊 luckily I play from day 1! Love this game! and I also expected this! I'm happy if we can trade one star cards, want a full art squirtle so much!
@Frecheszinho well that too. I mean the whole first wave. The ones I really wanted is the Lapras and the Clefairy. I even have like 4 extra promo Venusaur to trade in If they allow it.
I assume not but it's a weird position since some promos are exclusive cards you cannot obtain in any other way. If they had made promo cards as alternate versions of existing cards, then it'd be pretty understandable if they chose not to make them tradeable, but this goes beyond FOMO since you can never use those cards unless they make them available at some point again. In that sense I don't see a reason for them to keep these cards locked forever for players who weren't around at the time, but I guess we'll have to wait and see.
They said the trading would be limited at first back in November. Once we get more cards, we’ll probably get higher rarity trading eventually. The game is still so fresh, so there’s plenty of time.
This is fine to me I understand why it's not every type of card and should be able to finish sets if not the full arts. But is a bit frustrating as I have lots of some full arts and non of the other which would be nice to even it out.
This is solved if you can change ** x ** , and crown for crown , so at least you will have to give the similar value, and the diamond and * , are exchanged between them
You know, I'm totally fine with this. Trading helps you BUILD any deck you want, but if you want the shiny versions of each card, you have to open packs. Seems fair to me.
Another stupid take. The only incentive for people to keep pulling on the Mewtwo deck for example, after they've already got two of the immersive card - is because they expect to be able to trade their duplicates. The Whales will spend less money, they're who fund the game. The people who can't afford to spend any money are irrelevant
I get why that restriction would be in place, but it's still a little frustrating, especially when the two-star full-art cards are more rare than the three-star immervise art cards. If it's a money issue, then maybe they could make the premium pass a little more appealing by letting subscribers trade higher rarity cards? It's not as big of a moneymaker as restricting the trade of those cards outright and it might upset some players, but at least it's still bringing in some revenue and it's cheaper than spending hundreds or thousands of dollars on packs.
@@iufanboy5970 Sure you're more likely to get a 2 star card in a pack than a 3 star card, but in Mystical Island for example, you have a higher chance of getting an immersive art Celebi than any individual 2 star full art. It says as much on the Offering Rates page in the game itself.
@@iufanboy5970 easy to answer that .. so many 2 rares included rainbow and supporters card out there .. immersive is easy to get .. because only 1 copy each pack .. IF the case immersive and 2 stars can be traded .. and you want all immersive card (Mewtwo, char, celebi, pikachu) .. and u just need trading 4 kind of immersive only lets say .. then what ? It's done already .. and how about 2 rare cards ?? There is about 39 cards needed u want to trade .. That's the LOGIC .. DUHHH
I don't mind the trade restrictions, as a F2P player, I just want to be able to get some of the EX cards I'm missing to be able to play different decks.
Of course the broke players who can't afford to spend any money on the game don't mind. But your opinion doesn't matter because you're not funding it. Of course you want free handouts. But because of people like you thinking only of yourself and the short-term the people who are actually paying for this game are going to drop off in massive numbers
I think crown rare cards should be the only ones you can’t trade. It would really upset players including myself to not be able to trade with others for full art cards I’ve been wanting to get.
Such a shame I spent my pack points on completing my sets just for the novelty of immersive mew. Now there’s no incentive to keep playing other than to help a few people out . Hope there’s a large XP incentive
Yeah unfortunately as a free to play your opinion doesn't mean anything because you're not contributing to the funding of the game at all. The only reason that the game is possible is because other people do have the money to spend on it.
If trading makes the game more free to play friendly, I'm ok with the higher rarity cosmetic cards being a bit exclusive. I just wish that there was some small gameplay benefit to opening duplicte 2+ star cards. Not being able to use those duplicates for anything other than flair makes what should be an exciting pull feel kinda awful.
The exclusive black and gold cosmetics are there to exchange special shop tickets for too, but then again it may be that higher star cards become tradable down the line.
The more I think about it, they're actually losing more money by not allowing people to trade the full/alt cards. Because someone still has to open the packs to find those cards to trade. As a minor whale, I feel like collecting all of those cards is impossible, and trading was the only hope of having them for me. This decision just makes me want to spend less and focus on the base cards, because the master set feels so unobtainable. They need to make it feel realistic enough to get people to spend the money in pursuit of the full/alt arts. But when it feels out or reach, it will make people attempt it even less.
The opinion of low spenders is completely irrelevant. The game is funded by the people with the money to spend on the game. Saying that you're selfish enough that you would be happy to benefit even if it made the whole system worse just shows why you don't have any money to spend in the first place
Every youtube video I've watched on this is saying people aren't happy, yet every comment I see is people saying they're fine with it lmao. Not sure who expected two star and above to be trade eligible. It would make alt accounts overpowered, create a real money marketplace, and break the game. This is more than acceptable.
The people whose opinions actually matter are annoyed. You know, the people actually spending the money on the game. The stingy / broke people that want something for free obviously are happy with it and of course they're in higher number - because most people can't manage their money, but their opinions are ultimately irrelevant as they contribute nothing to the market.
They already said that trading would be limited at first back in November. This seems fair to me. Do remember the game is still pretty new even though 2 months had passed.
CUE is probably the only trade friendly digital card game atm. The only real restrictions they have is the limit of trades you can do per day (iirc? I forgot been a while since i last played). It's also one of the few if not the only digital card game that nerf or adjust cards accordingly if a card is a little too broken or underperforming.
Maybe in the future you can spend those hard-to-get Special Tickets in order to trade the higher rarities (probably minimum 5 tickets, then scales up based on rarity). That seems like it would satisfied both sides.
You can easily complete the main set so that's a W. I have a few 1 star illustration double ups that I'll want to offer. Hopefully 2 star may be added later because I legit pulled the only 2 star full art from Pikachu genetic apex TWICE!!
They could/should make certain events where trading 2 or 3 stars is allowed, but only for a certain set, before the new set comes out. E.g. New set comes out on 30th of April, so you can trade 2/3 star cards from 28th to 30th, but only 1 per day vs equal rarity and only (a) certain set(s). What do you think?
I think most f2p players should be happy as our issue of finding ex cards is sorted(depending on what other restrictions we will have). I also expect a cooldown and possibly a further restriction on promo cards because that will create FOMO which will boost engagement in future promo events
i love it! it makes the ultra rare cards that much more special and helps more people access the game and play how the way they want. I wouldn't be surprised if they slowly allow greater rarity cards to be traded over time as new and rarer cards are added.
if it is true, that sucks.. if they HAVE to do this hopefully it only applies if your account has only one copy of them? like after you get two copies of say a rainbow boarder mew then you can get more of them? Idk.. still seems stupid to me
I'm glad that trading will help people find the cards they need to need for decks, BUT I'm going to have to drop the idea of ever having the full/alt art cards. I spend a few hundred dollars on each set, and still feel like it's impossible to pull the full/alt art cards. I get that this is a first world problem, but making cards impossible to find in a collectible card game is just kind of cruel. I was banking on trading to actually make it seem possible. It's not.
This is fare and better because I expected worst case scanrio which was no 4 diamond above So kinda happy that atleast 1 star are allowed too And this is first time a Trading Card Game allows Trading so excited for it
I'm low key dissapointed we can't trade higher rarity cards at "you can only trade same rarity" restriction since I got like 4 imersive art Charizards...
im actually happy , as a new player there are so many basic and stage 1 and stage 2 cards i dont have to complete basic decks. Would be great to swap all the extra copies for what I need!
So you're stingy/broke, you want something for free, and haven't fought enough about how much this will annoy the people that are actually putting up the money for the game you want to play for nothing
Yes what is the point of putting money anymore? (Except for whales) The playable collection is more or less free to play to obtain, I want to trade meaningful pieces
I think there should be be able to trade 2 stars for 2 stars if anything. The more restrictions they put on it the worse it’ll be. No one is gonna buy into trading if you can’t even get what you want. Same with the botting for got packs. If you want to do more than one like every two weeks you gotta pay into it either way. MTGO has had unrestricted trading for close to 30 years and still going today.
I personally don't like it. If we can't trade higher rarities it ain't as fun. I hope in the future they increase the trade stuff. Cause certain missions require u pull certain top cards now if u keep playing for months and still done pull any of those top cards then it's a waste.
You can easily acquire that by spending nominal amounts of money. If you're relying on trading for that you're the problem. It's brokies like you, trying to get something for free, that creates a worst environment for the very people that fund your game by actually spending money
I was expecting the restrictions to be similar to Wonder Picks: no immersive or crowns, and some kind of trade stamina/resource, and even that would've been disappointing to me. A level requirement and/or only equal rarity trades would be totally fine with me, but completely disallowing any of the cards I'd actually care about trading would come close to making me quit tbh. Like you said, "trading" is literally in the name. I totally get needing to protect the in-game economy, but being subject to so much RNG is extremely frustrating. I have 4 rainbow Articunos, but not a single Marowak ex still. Obviously It'll be possible for me to get some Maros through trading, but my point it that rare cards I don't care about only have value to me insofar as they could get me one I *do* care about. I'm never gonna complete a set, and I literally could not care less about exchanging extras for flair or special tickets- that feels like a complete waste to me. Unless there were another system for exchanging rare cards for pack points/ hourglasses, or maybe Wonder Trading, which I think would be the perfect solution, this trading system would almost completely kill my enthusiasm for this game
In order to prevent real-life money transactions, they could just add an even swap policy on the rarer cards so u trade a crown for a crown. The lower rares (1-3 diamonds) trade whatever. I wish I had a card converter option personally. Sack a card and get the pack points so I could craft the card I actually WANT. Instead of just getting 5 points per pack, allow the option to sack cards for the craft points. Those water ex pokemon evade me like a leprechaun or unicorn. I had to pay the 500 points per to get that Articuno ex.
@PeterCaptainObvious if they allowed uneven trades, you'll see 1 crown trade for 1, 1 diamond (it would practically like giving a crown away). Hope they include a chat function or a Trade House where u could list a card u are willing to trade and list desired trades.
I'm ok with it. I whaled out big time on Genetic Apex and Mythical Island, so I should have enough dupes to build any future decks I want without spending money for years to come.
I've played since launch but haven't been able to get a single Jolteon or Polywrath. Now, I can finally build these deck 😊 Too bad tho, I have 5 extra Mew Two EXs I wanted to get rid of.
This is fine and a good compromise. Trading in digital card games can be tricky. 2-stars are a weird area because there are many of them, but I think it makes sense that they wouldn't add them because it also removes a huge portion of chase cards. Besides, yeah, diamond cards are enough to build decks and 1-star cards are a nice extra. Overall I just don't think trading should ever have been the main card acquisition method.
As a F2P player with only 1-3 missing cards in each base set left, this is perfect. Still need me a Muk and a Beedrill for my 151 secret set… I’ve been playing daily btw and can 100% keep up with P2W players, have 4 immersive and 1 gold and every competitive deck.
Also, just a speculation, but when they take away genetic apex packs from being a choice for a pack you can open they'll open the trading on those rarer cards.l from that set, cause it will no longer make them money to block it. And will only piss people off if they are forever locked. But again, just my own speculation.
I mostly wanted to be able to trade away high rarity cards for more playable game pieces so I guess this is a wash. As long as I can trade for the EX cards I'm missing I'll be happy.
i cant see how this benefits them. i get the premium pass but proably wont get it anymore because the only reason to get it is for more chance at the rare 2 star+ cards. i will get all the diamond cards and 1 star cards as f2p so i may as well just be f2p if i cant trade rare cards
Immersive restrictions is highly disappointing. I have 4 immersive celebi's and was really hoping to get my hands on the rainbow border aerodactyl (which is my favorite art in the game rn) and a immerisve Pikachu which is the only immersive im missing. Not trading crown rares is understandable but immersives too feels gutting.
I haven’t spend a single penny on this game and I have 10 decks. I might not have a lot of the more higher rarities but at least I have the cards I need to build different decks and play the game. Also I’m very consistent opening daily free packs, and overall just being active by participating in any events going on that will earn me more stuff
i hope the do events where you get to trade ex cards or trade more or cheaper, like the do in pokemon go. makes it fun, maybe a friend level to make trades cheaper the more you interact together
I can understand the logic behind the restriction if you have the money and want the FAs just buy packets and craft if you dont have the money but just want to play the game then trading is a welcome addition. The EX cards I literally require are 1 more Charizard EX and 2 Celebi EX to have working decks for those cards every other EX I have 5+ of some are even hitting double digits and I am a free player so god knows what paid players have.
The restrictions is 100% a money move. If players could trade anything, the game wouldn't make money... Also I expect another currency to be able to trade as well. Kinda expected the feature to be crap.
Diamond cards and 1 star cards are fine, because we can still trade EX cards. The restriction on 2 star cards sucks a bit only because the full art trainers are in there.
I was looking forward to trading my imersive for some nice full art which i think look better looks like that isnt happening although i remember reading they might allow full on trading later on and at first it would be limited. Looks to be right so far.
I mean they shouldn't have completey forbade trading the high rarity cards..they could have added extra restrictions like requiring a certain number of copies before being able to trade or being able to trade with only same rarity an above. They could have also added cooldowns. No one was expected for them to make us trade a crown rare with ratata or something.
As a premium pass user (not a whale), I am happy if they allow us to trade up to 1 star card. I am guessing it has to be of the same rarity. It makes sense, you don't trade an illustration rare card with a bulk card in real life. If this is true, then allowing 2 stars and above cards to be tradeable only benefits whale since F2P players don't have that many 2 stars / immersives to begin with.
I'm super sad I won't be able to trade my excess full art supporters for ones I need, but this is the perfect way for new players to complete their decks tbf.
I was kinda expecting them to not let us trade 3⭐or higher cards. Hopefully they can figure out a system to trade 2⭐ cards in the future. Trading is going to help out a lot of F2P players though, so happy about that!
as a pretty low spending player, i don't mind this, since i feel the game is really generous in terms of acquiring all the cards to be able to play them rare arts are neat, but they don't add any value to my collection in my eyes. they are just cosmetics, if you look at them like that, you understand how free to play games are monetized. it's the cosmetics. i think it's really fair. i find it easy to complete every set (aside from rare arts) by only getting the premium pass. i have over 500 hourglasses saved for the next set, which says a lot
i am also fine with it as I just play decks for fun so as long as they don't restrict us to trade a card after getting it a certain amount of time, I am really fine with it!!
Yeah I expected these restrictions to apply: Feels more like trading is just to ensure people can get playsets of the base rarity cards to make their decks fully playable, cause the higher rarity cards are the real moneymakers. Also to discourage scalpers/bots from just making burner accounts, then selling them. Also what's a "dolphin" in context of your comment? I've heard of whales but never dolphins.
When they made the initial announcement about trading they said only certain cards were gonna be able to be traded then expanding it include more so this isn’t that surprising. I want to know if we can trade promo cards. I feel like you can probably only trade for equal rarity too which is going to make me a little mad because I cannot pull 3 diamond holos. Most of them I only have 1 of. I have more ex cards than I do diamond holos. So I don’t even really have any to trade away to get the ones I need.
Here's what I know. I have two friends. One friend has gotten two god packs. And he's ftp, which drives me crazy. Neither of his god packs appeared in my wonderpicks. Wonderpicks are BS.
honestly its good because that way players cant make a trading business out of this game like the current physical Pokemon card game right now. Yes it is bad for those whales who have more than 10 of those 2 stars or 3 stars but it is what it is. AND ALSO if players can trade 2 stars or higher rarity cards they wont be as special anymore.
as someone who only spends for the monthly pass, i could be wrong but let the restrictions be what they are, doesn't bother me any. i grind and have patience..... have only a few cards im missing like arcanine ex , or a 2nd misty or a 2nd G-dos ex, ....but i can build all the other competitive decks.... when i couldnt... i make creative alternatives but its doable
For a person pulling 5 mew ex and 0 gyarados ex and missing a second copy of a lot of 3 diamond cards the trading system is a lot of what i was expecting
This is what I figured it would be but also a bit disappointed because if you have over 2 of the same card in my opinion should be tradable. I get people just make alt accounts but to be fair it’s hard to get 3 of the same rare card on a f2p alt so it’s hard to imagine it would hurt pokemon that bad hopefully in the future they change it. this is definitely going to make me think twice before I spend money on the game going forward
I was hoping to be able to trade all my extra immersive mewtwos. I keep getting only that rare card. I'm missing so many others, but I have 5 immersive Mewtwos, while my friends don't. I'm not too disappointed, because I was ecpexting this, but I'm also hoping they'll add rare trades later
This creates a problem as f2p who trying to collect all the cards if they take the little expansion or big expansion away later on. How do you get the cards without trading? You say they need to make money how they do that if they take the expansion away and you still can't trade for the cards. This is a big issue I been seeing since day 1 of this game. I'm hoping the expansion do not this appear so everyone can collect the rare cards they want. If they do pull expansion and not fix this issue I might just leave the game and go back to Pokemon TCG live where I can collect all expansion even when they take them down.
I think the limitation is just nice. Caters to F2P and still make money from those who will spend for packs. Maybe when more expansions are online, they might open a new trade for whales to trade 2 stars and above.
I only care about getting cards for battling. I’m missing 2 Gyarados EX’s and 2 Wigglytuff EX’s. It’d be really nice because Gyarados isn’t coming up in my wonder picks. I’ve also been playing since day 1 of the release for America.
I'm not a big spender I only pay for premium, I think up to 1 star is more than fair already. If they allow me to trade without limits I'd definitely create multiple accounts for free packs to trade every single immersive and crown rare to my main account for sure I might even go as far as getting all flairs for all of them. I know many ppl will do the same so it is best to keep the rare thing "rare" and allow players to trade cards so they can build decks
As a f2p player since day 1, I long gave up hope of ever completing the full card dex, I don't even wonderpick for 2 stars anymore. I'm focused on getting two copies of every diamond and 1 star card so being able to trade just those would definitely be fine for me. Have some cards that keep dropping and others that just won't show up for me so I'm hoping other f2p players have the same problem with different cards. To be honest it looks like the game would bore me very quickly if I dropped some money on it and had 12 copies of every card on day 1.
I was taking some cosplay photos today hence the green contacts! They look a bit scary but I kinda like that 🙂
they look so good!
That's crazy. Which cosplay character? Trying to think of all the green eyed anime characters I know.
@ it’s Sabrina haha. I know she has violet eyes but I didn’t have any contacts like that so I just went with green, to match the hair. Will upload some photos on my twitter and maybe on TH-cam too 😁
@PokéNinaa ugh, Elon banned my Twitter because I got hacked, so bummer I won't see 😀
damn those eyes look so damn good, it looks rly very good should be a version to buy :D
If trading makes it easier for newer players to make the decks that they want more quickly, that is a huge win ... Even if it doesn't help with getting full art cards.
trading was always going to do that, so this is the worst of all scenarios. the fact it helps the stingy and broke people that don't finance the game is irrelevant. Does it please the paying client base? No
It's not a huge win. Stingy / broke players that don't spend any money on the game don't matter. The people that spend the money are the ones that keep the game going and make it possible for everyone. Brokies need the Whales the Whales don't need the brokies.
This. It's way more important to keep the community growing. This will deff help
As someone who just wants to be able to play decks, high rarities aren't necessary, so this is fine with me!
So you're selfish and unable to do basic maths. If stingy people like you who can't afford to spend any money on the game get what you want... but it annoys all the people who can actually afford to fund the game in the process... Then the people who are paying for the game won't want to pay for it anymore. In a marketplace the opinions of people with no money are worth nothing
I mostly expected two stars and above to be excluded from trades. The real question is if we are allowed to trade the promo rare cards. I started the game late and missed the first promos (Lapras, Clefairy etc.)
I think you mean chansey 😊 luckily I play from day 1! Love this game! and I also expected this! I'm happy if we can trade one star cards, want a full art squirtle so much!
@Frecheszinho well that too. I mean the whole first wave. The ones I really wanted is the Lapras and the Clefairy. I even have like 4 extra promo Venusaur to trade in If they allow it.
I assume not but it's a weird position since some promos are exclusive cards you cannot obtain in any other way. If they had made promo cards as alternate versions of existing cards, then it'd be pretty understandable if they chose not to make them tradeable, but this goes beyond FOMO since you can never use those cards unless they make them available at some point again. In that sense I don't see a reason for them to keep these cards locked forever for players who weren't around at the time, but I guess we'll have to wait and see.
Same here I want the monkey that hurts itself
@@FrecheszinhoI have 6 come back to this comment once trading comes out I’ll give you one
They said the trading would be limited at first back in November. Once we get more cards, we’ll probably get higher rarity trading eventually. The game is still so fresh, so there’s plenty of time.
This is fine to me I understand why it's not every type of card and should be able to finish sets if not the full arts. But is a bit frustrating as I have lots of some full arts and non of the other which would be nice to even it out.
This is solved if you can change ** x ** , and crown for crown , so at least you will have to give the similar value, and the diamond and * , are exchanged between them
Perhaps trading will be updated later to accommodate this. But for now i think it’s great that people can build meta decks faster
You know, I'm totally fine with this. Trading helps you BUILD any deck you want, but if you want the shiny versions of each card, you have to open packs. Seems fair to me.
Except getting the commons is easy enough..
Another stupid take. The only incentive for people to keep pulling on the Mewtwo deck for example, after they've already got two of the immersive card - is because they expect to be able to trade their duplicates.
The Whales will spend less money, they're who fund the game. The people who can't afford to spend any money are irrelevant
I get why that restriction would be in place, but it's still a little frustrating, especially when the two-star full-art cards are more rare than the three-star immervise art cards. If it's a money issue, then maybe they could make the premium pass a little more appealing by letting subscribers trade higher rarity cards? It's not as big of a moneymaker as restricting the trade of those cards outright and it might upset some players, but at least it's still bringing in some revenue and it's cheaper than spending hundreds or thousands of dollars on packs.
Agree at least we can trade our extra 2 stars .. because people more interested rainbow and support full art instead immersive
2 stars are not more rare than 3 stars... did u smoke something bad?😂😂
@@iufanboy5970 Sure you're more likely to get a 2 star card in a pack than a 3 star card, but in Mystical Island for example, you have a higher chance of getting an immersive art Celebi than any individual 2 star full art. It says as much on the Offering Rates page in the game itself.
@@iufanboy5970 easy to answer that .. so many 2 rares included rainbow and supporters card out there .. immersive is easy to get .. because only 1 copy each pack ..
IF the case immersive and 2 stars can be traded .. and you want all immersive card (Mewtwo, char, celebi, pikachu) .. and u just need trading 4 kind of immersive only lets say .. then what ? It's done already .. and how about 2 rare cards ?? There is about 39 cards needed u want to trade ..
That's the LOGIC .. DUHHH
@@iufanboy5970 okay ofc 3 stars more rare than 2 stars .. hahaha we already know that .. but the poin is .. 2 star cards has "MORE INTERESTING"
I don't mind the trade restrictions, as a F2P player, I just want to be able to get some of the EX cards I'm missing to be able to play different decks.
Of course the broke players who can't afford to spend any money on the game don't mind. But your opinion doesn't matter because you're not funding it. Of course you want free handouts. But because of people like you thinking only of yourself and the short-term the people who are actually paying for this game are going to drop off in massive numbers
I think crown rare cards should be the only ones you can’t trade. It would really upset players including myself to not be able to trade with others for full art cards I’ve been wanting to get.
Yeah as f2p myself I'm fine with it. I just want shinedust to be more useful
I have this feeling that they will use the shinedust as currency for making a trade so I'm holding on to all of it!
Such a shame I spent my pack points on completing my sets just for the novelty of immersive mew. Now there’s no incentive to keep playing other than to help a few people out . Hope there’s a large XP incentive
Yeah unfortunately as a free to play your opinion doesn't mean anything because you're not contributing to the funding of the game at all. The only reason that the game is possible is because other people do have the money to spend on it.
Hmmm well i do still lack a lot of diamond cards
All the base EX cards are 4 diamonds. Meaning we can play any deck. And then you are spending money for pretty art.
@@rrteppoyeah, it's still a good news for me.
Wtf i thought everybody would trade me their crown cards for my shat
If trading makes the game more free to play friendly, I'm ok with the higher rarity cosmetic cards being a bit exclusive. I just wish that there was some small gameplay benefit to opening duplicte 2+ star cards. Not being able to use those duplicates for anything other than flair makes what should be an exciting pull feel kinda awful.
The exclusive black and gold cosmetics are there to exchange special shop tickets for too, but then again it may be that higher star cards become tradable down the line.
They should let you trade cards you have more than 2 copies of, I have 3 crown Pikachu, for instance, and no Charizard.
any of the 1star and rarer cards are all accessible in 4 diamond cards. So you can still make a deck without the Full Art and/or immersive cards
The more I think about it, they're actually losing more money by not allowing people to trade the full/alt cards. Because someone still has to open the packs to find those cards to trade. As a minor whale, I feel like collecting all of those cards is impossible, and trading was the only hope of having them for me. This decision just makes me want to spend less and focus on the base cards, because the master set feels so unobtainable. They need to make it feel realistic enough to get people to spend the money in pursuit of the full/alt arts. But when it feels out or reach, it will make people attempt it even less.
As a low spender, all I want is playable cards, and there is nothing above 1 star that doesn’t have a less rare card
The opinion of low spenders is completely irrelevant. The game is funded by the people with the money to spend on the game. Saying that you're selfish enough that you would be happy to benefit even if it made the whole system worse just shows why you don't have any money to spend in the first place
I think this is good. High rarities will still be a flex for each player’s luck and everyone will be able to have all playable cards.
Every youtube video I've watched on this is saying people aren't happy, yet every comment I see is people saying they're fine with it lmao. Not sure who expected two star and above to be trade eligible. It would make alt accounts overpowered, create a real money marketplace, and break the game. This is more than acceptable.
The people whose opinions actually matter are annoyed. You know, the people actually spending the money on the game. The stingy / broke people that want something for free obviously are happy with it and of course they're in higher number - because most people can't manage their money, but their opinions are ultimately irrelevant as they contribute nothing to the market.
They already said that trading would be limited at first back in November. This seems fair to me. Do remember the game is still pretty new even though 2 months had passed.
CUE is probably the only trade friendly digital card game atm. The only real restrictions they have is the limit of trades you can do per day (iirc? I forgot been a while since i last played).
It's also one of the few if not the only digital card game that nerf or adjust cards accordingly if a card is a little too broken or underperforming.
Maybe in the future you can spend those hard-to-get Special Tickets in order to trade the higher rarities (probably minimum 5 tickets, then scales up based on rarity). That seems like it would satisfied both sides.
You can easily complete the main set so that's a W. I have a few 1 star illustration double ups that I'll want to offer. Hopefully 2 star may be added later because I legit pulled the only 2 star full art from Pikachu genetic apex TWICE!!
My theory was that the only cards that would be available to trade would be the same cards that can be found on wonder pick.
They could/should make certain events where trading 2 or 3 stars is allowed, but only for a certain set, before the new set comes out. E.g. New set comes out on 30th of April, so you can trade 2/3 star cards from 28th to 30th, but only 1 per day vs equal rarity and only (a) certain set(s). What do you think?
I think most f2p players should be happy as our issue of finding ex cards is sorted(depending on what other restrictions we will have). I also expect a cooldown and possibly a further restriction on promo cards because that will create FOMO which will boost engagement in future promo events
i love it! it makes the ultra rare cards that much more special and helps more people access the game and play how the way they want. I wouldn't be surprised if they slowly allow greater rarity cards to be traded over time as new and rarer cards are added.
if it is true, that sucks.. if they HAVE to do this hopefully it only applies if your account has only one copy of them? like after you get two copies of say a rainbow boarder mew then you can get more of them? Idk.. still seems stupid to me
Agree at least we can trade our extra 2 stars .. because people more interested rainbow and support full art instead immersive
I'm glad that trading will help people find the cards they need to need for decks, BUT I'm going to have to drop the idea of ever having the full/alt art cards. I spend a few hundred dollars on each set, and still feel like it's impossible to pull the full/alt art cards. I get that this is a first world problem, but making cards impossible to find in a collectible card game is just kind of cruel. I was banking on trading to actually make it seem possible. It's not.
This is fare and better because I expected worst case scanrio which was no 4 diamond above
So kinda happy that atleast 1 star are allowed too
And this is first time a Trading Card Game allows Trading so excited for it
I was hoping we would be able to trade promo cards since I missed the first 2 rounds that's a bummer
I'm low key dissapointed we can't trade higher rarity cards at "you can only trade same rarity" restriction since I got like 4 imersive art Charizards...
As a free player, i think the restrictions are fine. You can get all cards to build decks with and complete all normal (not secret) Missions that way.
im actually happy , as a new player there are so many basic and stage 1 and stage 2 cards i dont have to complete basic decks. Would be great to swap all the extra copies for what I need!
So you're stingy/broke, you want something for free, and haven't fought enough about how much this will annoy the people that are actually putting up the money for the game you want to play for nothing
I think they could fix this problem by introducing another "currency" for trading only as you have been saying a while now.
Yeah, if this is true, this is disappointing and I'll likely stop spending nearly as much on this game.
Agree at least we can trade our extra 2 stars .. because people more interested rainbow and support full art instead immersive
Yes what is the point of putting money anymore? (Except for whales)
The playable collection is more or less free to play to obtain, I want to trade meaningful pieces
I wonder how much real world money a crown rare would go for if they did let people trade them lol. Prolly decent money.
I think there should be be able to trade 2 stars for 2 stars if anything. The more restrictions they put on it the worse it’ll be. No one is gonna buy into trading if you can’t even get what you want. Same with the botting for got packs. If you want to do more than one like every two weeks you gotta pay into it either way. MTGO has had unrestricted trading for close to 30 years and still going today.
This is honestly better than I expected. Even if it didn't include one star cards it would still be more than decent.
I personally don't like it. If we can't trade higher rarities it ain't as fun. I hope in the future they increase the trade stuff. Cause certain missions require u pull certain top cards now if u keep playing for months and still done pull any of those top cards then it's a waste.
As long as i can trade for cards to complete my decks, I'm happy with that
You can easily acquire that by spending nominal amounts of money. If you're relying on trading for that you're the problem. It's brokies like you, trying to get something for free, that creates a worst environment for the very people that fund your game by actually spending money
I was expecting the restrictions to be similar to Wonder Picks: no immersive or crowns, and some kind of trade stamina/resource, and even that would've been disappointing to me. A level requirement and/or only equal rarity trades would be totally fine with me, but completely disallowing any of the cards I'd actually care about trading would come close to making me quit tbh.
Like you said, "trading" is literally in the name. I totally get needing to protect the in-game economy, but being subject to so much RNG is extremely frustrating. I have 4 rainbow Articunos, but not a single Marowak ex still. Obviously It'll be possible for me to get some Maros through trading, but my point it that rare cards I don't care about only have value to me insofar as they could
get me one I *do* care about. I'm never gonna complete a set, and I literally could not care less about exchanging extras for flair or special tickets- that feels like a complete waste to me.
Unless there were another system for exchanging rare cards for pack points/ hourglasses, or maybe Wonder Trading, which I think would be the perfect solution, this trading system would almost completely kill my enthusiasm for this game
In order to prevent real-life money transactions, they could just add an even swap policy on the rarer cards so u trade a crown for a crown. The lower rares (1-3 diamonds) trade whatever. I wish I had a card converter option personally. Sack a card and get the pack points so I could craft the card I actually WANT. Instead of just getting 5 points per pack, allow the option to sack cards for the craft points. Those water ex pokemon evade me like a leprechaun or unicorn. I had to pay the 500 points per to get that Articuno ex.
I like this idea, the incentive to trade your dupes, rather than trading a 4 diamond and expecting a 2 star in return lol
@PeterCaptainObvious if they allowed uneven trades, you'll see 1 crown trade for 1, 1 diamond (it would practically like giving a crown away). Hope they include a chat function or a Trade House where u could list a card u are willing to trade and list desired trades.
I'm ok with it. I whaled out big time on Genetic Apex and Mythical Island, so I should have enough dupes to build any future decks I want without spending money for years to come.
I've played since launch but haven't been able to get a single Jolteon or Polywrath. Now, I can finally build these deck 😊
Too bad tho, I have 5 extra Mew Two EXs I wanted to get rid of.
This is fine and a good compromise. Trading in digital card games can be tricky. 2-stars are a weird area because there are many of them, but I think it makes sense that they wouldn't add them because it also removes a huge portion of chase cards. Besides, yeah, diamond cards are enough to build decks and 1-star cards are a nice extra. Overall I just don't think trading should ever have been the main card acquisition method.
As a F2P player with only 1-3 missing cards in each base set left, this is perfect.
Still need me a Muk and a Beedrill for my 151 secret set…
I’ve been playing daily btw and can 100% keep up with P2W players, have 4 immersive and 1 gold and every competitive deck.
Also, just a speculation, but when they take away genetic apex packs from being a choice for a pack you can open they'll open the trading on those rarer cards.l from that set, cause it will no longer make them money to block it. And will only piss people off if they are forever locked. But again, just my own speculation.
Maybe just like wonder pick where you just wait to trade. It seems fair and whales can trade as often as they like
I just wanna trade for the last few 1-3 diamond cards I need for the themed collections. still haven't opened a darn tentacool 😂
@@etaoinshr I feel your pain ... I somehow have two full Art Gengar EX ... but no copies of regular Gengar
I don't have a single Gastly at level 28...
I mostly wanted to be able to trade away high rarity cards for more playable game pieces so I guess this is a wash. As long as I can trade for the EX cards I'm missing I'll be happy.
i cant see how this benefits them. i get the premium pass but proably wont get it anymore because the only reason to get it is for more chance at the rare 2 star+ cards. i will get all the diamond cards and 1 star cards as f2p so i may as well just be f2p if i cant trade rare cards
Immersive restrictions is highly disappointing. I have 4 immersive celebi's and was really hoping to get my hands on the rainbow border aerodactyl (which is my favorite art in the game rn) and a immerisve Pikachu which is the only immersive im missing. Not trading crown rares is understandable but immersives too feels gutting.
this is also the same reason i started on focusing on playing the phtsical tcg more aswell
I haven’t spend a single penny on this game and I have 10 decks. I might not have a lot of the more higher rarities but at least I have the cards I need to build different decks and play the game. Also I’m very consistent opening daily free packs, and overall just being active by participating in any events going on that will earn me more stuff
i hope the do events where you get to trade ex cards or trade more or cheaper, like the do in pokemon go. makes it fun, maybe a friend level to make trades cheaper the more you interact together
I can understand the logic behind the restriction if you have the money and want the FAs just buy packets and craft if you dont have the money but just want to play the game then trading is a welcome addition. The EX cards I literally require are 1 more Charizard EX and 2 Celebi EX to have working decks for those cards every other EX I have 5+ of some are even hitting double digits and I am a free player so god knows what paid players have.
As long as someone is able to complete a pokedex with trading thats fine by me. The rare cards will stay rare that way
The restrictions is 100% a money move. If players could trade anything, the game wouldn't make money... Also I expect another currency to be able to trade as well. Kinda expected the feature to be crap.
Diamond cards and 1 star cards are fine, because we can still trade EX cards. The restriction on 2 star cards sucks a bit only because the full art trainers are in there.
I was looking forward to trading my imersive for some nice full art which i think look better looks like that isnt happening although i remember reading they might allow full on trading later on and at first it would be limited. Looks to be right so far.
I mean they shouldn't have completey forbade trading the high rarity cards..they could have added extra restrictions like requiring a certain number of copies before being able to trade or being able to trade with only same rarity an above. They could have also added cooldowns. No one was expected for them to make us trade a crown rare with ratata or something.
Sounds like a win to me. I was worried we were only going to be able to trade promo or 1 diamond cards or something like that
I think it fair for now
Maybe they will allow player to trade 2* later.
Maybe 6month+ after the pack release
RIP the dream of completing the Legendary Bird trio emblem mission
As a premium pass user (not a whale), I am happy if they allow us to trade up to 1 star card.
I am guessing it has to be of the same rarity. It makes sense, you don't trade an illustration rare card with a bulk card in real life.
If this is true, then allowing 2 stars and above cards to be tradeable only benefits whale since F2P players don't have that many 2 stars / immersives to begin with.
I'm super sad I won't be able to trade my excess full art supporters for ones I need, but this is the perfect way for new players to complete their decks tbf.
I was kinda expecting them to not let us trade 3⭐or higher cards. Hopefully they can figure out a system to trade 2⭐ cards in the future. Trading is going to help out a lot of F2P players though, so happy about that!
as a pretty low spending player, i don't mind this, since i feel the game is really generous in terms of acquiring all the cards to be able to play them
rare arts are neat, but they don't add any value to my collection in my eyes. they are just cosmetics, if you look at them like that, you understand how free to play games are monetized. it's the cosmetics. i think it's really fair. i find it easy to complete every set (aside from rare arts) by only getting the premium pass. i have over 500 hourglasses saved for the next set, which says a lot
This is exactly what trading was always going to be. If you could trade full arts it would end up being a market where people buy them directly…
i am also fine with it as I just play decks for fun so as long as they don't restrict us to trade a card after getting it a certain amount of time, I am really fine with it!!
Yeah I expected these restrictions to apply: Feels more like trading is just to ensure people can get playsets of the base rarity cards to make their decks fully playable, cause the higher rarity cards are the real moneymakers. Also to discourage scalpers/bots from just making burner accounts, then selling them.
Also what's a "dolphin" in context of your comment? I've heard of whales but never dolphins.
When they made the initial announcement about trading they said only certain cards were gonna be able to be traded then expanding it include more so this isn’t that surprising. I want to know if we can trade promo cards. I feel like you can probably only trade for equal rarity too which is going to make me a little mad because I cannot pull 3 diamond holos. Most of them I only have 1 of. I have more ex cards than I do diamond holos. So I don’t even really have any to trade away to get the ones I need.
Here's what I know. I have two friends. One friend has gotten two god packs. And he's ftp, which drives me crazy. Neither of his god packs appeared in my wonderpicks. Wonderpicks are BS.
As long as there is no limit on the cards that affect deck functionality, I am okay with it. You also explain it nicely.
honestly its good because that way players cant make a trading business out of this game like the current physical Pokemon card game right now. Yes it is bad for those whales who have more than 10 of those 2 stars or 3 stars but it is what it is. AND ALSO if players can trade 2 stars or higher rarity cards they wont be as special anymore.
as someone who only spends for the monthly pass, i could be wrong but let the restrictions be what they are, doesn't bother me any. i grind and have patience..... have only a few cards im missing like arcanine ex , or a 2nd misty or a 2nd G-dos ex, ....but i can build all the other competitive decks.... when i couldnt... i make creative alternatives but its doable
For a person pulling 5 mew ex and 0 gyarados ex and missing a second copy of a lot of 3 diamond cards the trading system is a lot of what i was expecting
I think it's fair. Gotta keep the collector's collecting and player's playing. Hope you only need two copies and can trade any extra after that.
I don't Whale, I only Sale Shark
This is what I figured it would be but also a bit disappointed because if you have over 2 of the same card in my opinion should be tradable. I get people just make alt accounts but to be fair it’s hard to get 3 of the same rare card on a f2p alt so it’s hard to imagine it would hurt pokemon that bad hopefully in the future they change it. this is definitely going to make me think twice before I spend money on the game going forward
Literally every topps digital trading card game allows you to trade any rarity of card
I was hoping to be able to trade all my extra immersive mewtwos. I keep getting only that rare card. I'm missing so many others, but I have 5 immersive Mewtwos, while my friends don't.
I'm not too disappointed, because I was ecpexting this, but I'm also hoping they'll add rare trades later
i mean this is exactly what i expected lol ... aint no way u expect them to allow u to trade crown rares straight away
This creates a problem as f2p who trying to collect all the cards if they take the little expansion or big expansion away later on. How do you get the cards without trading? You say they need to make money how they do that if they take the expansion away and you still can't trade for the cards. This is a big issue I been seeing since day 1 of this game. I'm hoping the expansion do not this appear so everyone can collect the rare cards they want. If they do pull expansion and not fix this issue I might just leave the game and go back to Pokemon TCG live where I can collect all expansion even when they take them down.
3:18 ever heard a game called 'CLASH ROYAL'
The point is not even that game allows you to trade the most rare (champion) cards
I like that you can trade ex cards.
Lots of player have dummy account we can't blame them for the update but I think it's better if the have a lvl trade like only lvl 25 up can trade
I think the limitation is just nice. Caters to F2P and still make money from those who will spend for packs. Maybe when more expansions are online, they might open a new trade for whales to trade 2 stars and above.
I have already predicted this couple months ago so i am not disappointed with this leak.
I am totally fine with this trading limit. Dont care about those full art cards.
I just need card to build a deck
I only care about getting cards for battling. I’m missing 2 Gyarados EX’s and 2 Wigglytuff EX’s. It’d be really nice because Gyarados isn’t coming up in my wonder picks. I’ve also been playing since day 1 of the release for America.
Honestly, these dev are just money hungry bc if they rlly wanted to avoid exploiters they would make a level cap for trading 1 ☆+ cards
I'm not a big spender I only pay for premium, I think up to 1 star is more than fair already. If they allow me to trade without limits I'd definitely create multiple accounts for free packs to trade every single immersive and crown rare to my main account for sure I might even go as far as getting all flairs for all of them. I know many ppl will do the same so it is best to keep the rare thing "rare" and allow players to trade cards so they can build decks
As a f2p player since day 1, I long gave up hope of ever completing the full card dex, I don't even wonderpick for 2 stars anymore. I'm focused on getting two copies of every diamond and 1 star card so being able to trade just those would definitely be fine for me. Have some cards that keep dropping and others that just won't show up for me so I'm hoping other f2p players have the same problem with different cards. To be honest it looks like the game would bore me very quickly if I dropped some money on it and had 12 copies of every card on day 1.
Thats so stupid. What am I supposed to do with all my extra full art cards and the ones I dont have? This is dumb
I think we all knew that only dimond cards would be tradable, I mean, I am surprised that star cards can be traded.
Im a f2p player and this is basically what i was expecting. I wasn't expecting much actually
I was expecting this