Removed Playable Yoshi in Super Mario 64 | Mario Cut Content
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 เม.ย. 2024
- Much like Luigi, Yoshi was planned to be a playable character when Mario would find and ride him in Super Mario 64. Today on Cut Content, we look at how Yoshi might have played, what is left over in the data, and why he was removed.
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Footage of Mario riding Yoshi:
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Mod controlling Yoshi (with additional limited moon jump code added)
Kaze Emanuar's Super Mario 64 Online Mod
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Restored Multiplayer Mode ft Luigi:
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• UNUSED Beta Prototype ...
Fully assembled Luigi with texture
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Chapters:
0:00 - Introduction to The Truth about Luigi's Beta Dialogue in Super Mario 64
0:48 - Background on playable Yoshi
1:33 - Datamining of Yoshi
2:22 - How Yoshi might have played
4:00 - How Yoshi in Super Mario 64 DS may be different from Yoshi in the original
4:50 - Demonstration of how Yoshi might have played
5:39 - Why a Playable Yoshi may have been removed
6:14 - Extro
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Was supposed to be in super Mario 64 but got scrapped why
@@marshapike4698 He got scrapped because of a memory issue. I got video on that actually if you look a bit further back.
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@@TheObsessiveGamer if you are able to play the beta/test levels atm, can you tell me a link to get them or someones channel?
Luigi beta model, Luigi is a playable character in DS
Scrapped playable Yoshi, Yoshi is a playable character in DS
*You want fun?*
Wario show you fun!
Every copy of Mario 64 is personalized.
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the wario personalized shit is cringe as hell
The Yoshi jump height theory actually makes a lot of sense. In the next game, Super Mario Sunshine, Yoshi's jumps were higher than Mario's, so that could be a leftover concept from 64.
It is very possible. Old concepts do get reused later sometimes and this could have been the case. I made a note of that especially my Pokemon Cut content videos.
Additionally, in sunshine yoshi's egg needs an item to hatch, which might also be a leftover concept. Also the fact that Yoshi dies in water meaning he has to stay on "dry" land.
So the negative aura is just the presence of unliving Yoshi watching his friend traverse Yoshi's stage.
Yes
I forgot that Wet Dry World was the level with the negative aura. I was watching this video and thinking to myself. "Why does this level creep me out?"
old, lame meme that should be stopped asap
@@F0nkyNinja Seems to have slowed down as of late.
@@OdaSwifteye wtf are you talking about?
Miyamoto said he was planned for an event, not an entire level, that would be a single star within a level. I think that indicates that yoshi would have been used in a more constrained scenario like the koopa the quick stars.
Well of course but that even was going to be needed in a level and Wet-Dry World is looking like that level, so it stands.
There's another interview that says they couldn't get the animation for riding Yoshi to look right.
Mind sending a link to that one? I'm curious
Hold On.. Rideable Yoshi!?
Yep. A removed concept
Yep, *it* "as we don't all know Yoshi's gender" was actually going to be in a Sm64 event where there was more sm64 levels they was probably going to restore unused levels from sm64 beta and such more and put you riding Yoshi in there maybe u get to touch the egg and he pops out?
@@Princy_K He's meant to be male... but he lays eggs which makes no sense. Snake comments on this in SSBB
@@TheObsessiveGamer what mod was that?
Makes sense that Yoshi would have jumped crazy good. After you talk to him on the castle roof, he then jumps into the waterfall (for some unknown reason i never understood) but he seems to jump REALLY far because even if you’re on the far side of the roof (opposite end of the roof) he’ll jump from that exact spot directly into the waterfall effortlessly. Mario can’t even come remotely close. So he already jumps WAY better/farther than Mario in Super Mario 64
Yeah, his jump is crazy high so it won't surprise me if they didn't actually animate a jump for that exact scene and rather just used the same jump he would have done.
I imagine he'd have behaved like sunshine and no mouth juice
And hopefully not melt I water cause Wet Dry World would have been a nightmare
hed prob behave like in Last Impact
@@RetroDarioGaming Which this mod I used was a basis for Last Impact (or vice versa actually), so makes sense
@@TheObsessiveGamer Yeah I was thinking that, I imagine the level would likely be pretty impossible if he wasn't able to go in water haha
Wet Dry world is basically a glorified test level in its design, to the point I would not be surprised if in earlier development it actually was. That may be why Yoshi only appears in there too, as it would have been during the testing phase.
That is a possibility with how chaotic the level is in comparison to most other levels.
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In marionova's discord server they showed a terrifying looking early version of yoshi
It has a neat retro charm to it though
@@TheObsessiveGamer yeah
@@DeniseKazooie you can send a link to the image?
@@gonzelscott2603 ok
@@DeniseKazooie thanks you
The original Yoshi model in 64 is much bigger than the DS port. That may explain the differences in jumping distances.
Yeah they used the modern Yoshi design which is smaller, though I don't think jump distance would matter as much here
@@TheObsessiveGamer - Quite possible. I think I was seeing the jump distance as relative to his size.
@@rawkfistgaming Yeah fair. It does make sense enough why the DS Yoshi overall couldn't jump as far as he normally could
Super Yoshi 64 then.
That's what we called the DS version back in 04 :P
I sabotaged o2
p.s this is a among us easter egg
next video: find waluigi
Nah Wario would be more likely :P
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Your videos are amazing how dont you have 1 million subscribers????? Extremely underrated
Thank you! maybe I will one day and I can refer back to this here post :)
I will say this is a better reward going through the game again but this time with a rideable yoshi sounds like great replay value.
Cool video! Please keep making good videos!
Thank you! Wiil plan to keep doing so
Underrated.
I agree :P
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Ah if only kaze had a time machine then Luigi and this could have been in the game.
Even then, I don't think Kaze could have made it work as it was N64 limitations that prevented it running on real hardware.
@@TheObsessiveGamer but Kaze has already found a way to make the Mario and Luigi multiplayer work on actual N64 hardware apparently it wasn't a limitation it's just someone at Nintendo messed up the programming on the cartridge so Kaze just fixed it and then the Mario and Luigi multiplayer started working so making yoshi work on the actual hardware shouldn't really be that much of a problem for him.
6:35 Ooo...not Wario tho
for now :P
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When are you planning on beginning the Gen 2 cut content series, if that’s even still in the works?
Hey, yep that series is still planned. Right now as we wind down on SM64, the next series has to be a natural transition which I was thinking of doing a mix of both Zelda OOT and Pokemon Gen 2. OOT is ridiculously long of Cut Content series too, so doing Pokemon inbetween episodes would make a lot of sense too.
Yoshi was not concieved as a playable character. He was concieved as a cameo. Possibly an easter egg that ended up not being up to their quality standard. "There was an event" Those are his words. Not "he was playable but it didn't work out". In the end they just decided to use the model they worked on in a different way than they originally intended and that was his meaning pretty much.
The event obviously meant he was going to be "playable", especially since a Yoshi egg was there in Mario tradition in the level which he would have hatched out of.. Based on the side of the model too, it looks very obvious that Mario would have rided him for the level. It wouldn't have made sense for him to be there in a level and not be used especially since this was a consistent 3D platformer that kept the action moving.
incredible video
Thank you!
Oh, I didn't know this!
I feel like we're a bit too early to judge what the gigaleak has, only the past week dataminers have found the only place where the metal wing cap was used (was placed as a shortcut for the devs in Bobomb Battlefield to just fly around) by reading the commented out lines of code from the source code, early collisions maps in OOT and much more.
I agree with the rest of the video though and I love how everyone has the idea that he could flutter and we could get easier to the underwrold which.... yeah even I had that idea.
Good vid
Yeah people are still going through it. Though i'm curious where you may have heard that new info? I do want to look into it myself. Thanks for watching!
The Preservation Project Discord is where I got the information from
discord.gg/tpp
If you wanna see the wingcap entity placement, go to #reserach or click this link after you joined the server
discord.com/channels/641005637727289385/747879760780328980/752627269994020924
The collision map for OOT, no f-ing clue, just found it on Twitter
twitter.com/Fig02_/status/1307824679353233408
There is probably a server but I don't know it
Oh right that Discord. Yeah I have been in that for while. Haven't checked it recently. I'll plan to look into those soon myself. Thanks!
the yoshi egg textures also appear in whomps fortress.
Interesting, can you link to me to the source of this? I'm interested into looking at this too.
I wonder how much of the cut yoshi content was used for sunshine. Considering its wet dry world, and in sunshine yoshi dies in water....what if it was too frustrating to use yoshi in beta Mario 64 and that's why he was removed.
The reason he was cut when u beat the game yoshi drowns himself
No wonder he kept melting in Mario Sunshine everytime he jumped in any body of water
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Underrated post alert! Thank you btw!
5:20 he's using net64 without connecting to a server for yoshi
Yep. A modded version of it actually but yes
Cant wait for this to be ported to the pc port
Hope this becomes a thing as they may have intended too especially.
Where is the download link for the PC Yoshi mod?
I can't just post it here since the Nintendo Ninja's would come right after me lol Google it to find it
“In Mario’s recent adventure”
Mario Land 2: *Am I a joke to you?*
I meant recent adventure featuring Yoshi which would still be Super Mario World
Oh ok
Ok, I remember my copy of mario 64 straight up having the egg in wet dry world as a kid, it was animated, looked the exact same, but did nothing. It was kinda smaller too. Did anyone else experience this?
Ummm guy you know how they cut him. I can still play him and I didn’t hack my game I just bought it on amazon please help me
I imagine you must be playing the DS version of the game where they did add him then as he definitely is not playable in the original
The yoshi egg is actually hoot the owl's egg. In development hoot would hatch from it. Also the source code labels it as bird_egg.
That one is more a theory. The only thing is that it's labelled as "Bird_Egg" but it might simply be just a name in this case as it very clearly is a Yoshi egg. Something defined a few games up from there even. Also considering there are no birds in Wet-Dry World, it points even less to it being an actual bird egg.
Dude their code name for Tall Tall Mountain is “Donkey” plus the egg has that distinct “Yoshi” look to it.
That mouse icon in the middle of the Mario 64 gameplay is making me scream
Clearly it's what personalizes my copy :P
But seriously, yeah mistake, sorry about that
Lol, don’t worry about
Recreate what Yoshi was *supposed* to be in the original game and put *that* in SM64DS in place of *it's* Yoshi...
Yeaaaaa!!! Yosher!!!!
Laughs in had sm64DS
i think that the fully animated yoshi egg was actually the eggs that yoshi would throw like in super mario world 2 yoshi's island
I don't know, it was bouncing like it was about to hatch. Seems like what Yoshi would pop out of. Also it was huge
@@TheObsessiveGamer about the movement you are right... for the size maybe they needed to scale it down a bit
Cool
yoshi should have acted like in super mario world and super mario world 2
Yeah and like I said in the video, he may have been more or less an extension of Mario's abilities infact.
but in ds. Yoshi is now playable to play
you can see yoshi in roof at intro too
Yeah and I mention that in the video but that there likely was a major difference between the DS versions Yoshi and what they were planning to do in this. Give the video another watch incase you missed that section.
How do we know that Yoshi was only intended for this one level? Would not be surprised if he was supposed to show up in most levels, but when they removed him they simply overlooked the Yoshi code that was left in Wet Dry World. Only reason it's still in there is by sheer chance.
As shown in that Miyamoto interview, Yoshi was planned for an "event" not "events" and considering the Yoshi egg was just found in one location, this fits this bill of that. It is possible they might have expanded upon it if they liked this idea, but as far as they were concerned, one level was all they had planned for the moment
@@TheObsessiveGamer Ah, must have not processed that part of the video for whatever reason.
Love that subtle reference to the Wario apparition creepypasta at the end haha
hehe glad you did.
3:29 i see that mouse.
Are you sure you don't have a side gig of being the voice of Gene Belcher from Bob's Burgers?
Don't think my voice is squeaky enough for that lol (but man that'd be neat)
@@TheObsessiveGamer hahaha I'm sure you could make it happen! Cheers mate! Love your videos!
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Wdym? I played as yoshi in a super mario 64 emulator. Is it a piracy thing?
More a mod thing lol
Even though they couldn't get it to work on the N64, they made good on it with Mario 64DS.
Indeed! We at least got Yoshi in some form.
@@TheObsessiveGamer As well as Luigi.
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I have a DS that gives me to play yoshi in super mario 64
I think Yoshi was planned in Wet Dry World to jump inside that Cylinder access.
Good theory. The big jump would make that a lot easier
@@TheObsessiveGamer It really would! I can really see Yoshi doing very well in Wet Dry World. It is a very odd stage 😅😀😄I’ve been enjoying your content lately. TH-cam sure loves to put you on their algorithm! I’m proud of you! I’d be happy to be friends with you on Twitter @mellowestgamer 😄😁
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He Probably would have said I will be joining your adventures in Super Mario 64 now lets kick some goomba butt IM HUNGRY!!!
Would be neat if you got to use him anywhere like in Super Mario World, though for now he was only programmed there I believe.
@@TheObsessiveGamer Download super Luigi 64 and get all 120 stars and you'll see what I mean
The playable Yoshi has better proportions than the real one.
I think the playable Yoshi is based off of the Yoshi from Mario Party. They certainly look similar enough.
That's all the characters except wario in Mario 64 ds
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False, Yoshi is needed in super mario world to reach a second goal by bailing on yoshi
Fun fact: I actually had that in the original script of this episode lol
@@TheObsessiveGamer fun fact: lier
@@SandBox86 whatever, I just took it out cause I thought it might make the episode a bit silly is all. Believe whatever you wish.
@@TheObsessiveGamer the only silly one is you and your ignorant video. Dislike for you. Not subscribed. Not recommended. Flagged for false info.
Yoshi is actually in the DS game. In fact he replaces Mario as the starter character
Yeah I mention that in the video and how this version also would have likely been quite different than what we got in the DS version. Look further in the video.
@@TheObsessiveGamer yeah I wrote this when I had only just started watching lol
@@camoningerland8212 lol no worries. Thanks for watching!
there is a lot of cut content in mario 64, right?
Indeed, check my previous videos on the major finding of them.
@@TheObsessiveGamer oh i have
I think OG 64 Yoshi wouldnt throw or make eggs and maybe have his flutter jump
Well all this is speculation in the end based on his previous performances and how he would make the level more accessible, which I thought being able to shoot eggs at the water switches could be one way. In the end, its all theory and egg throw may really not have been there.
PLEASE LET THIS BE IN 3D ALL STARS
As much as I want it, I have my doubt...
or maybe the water mechanic replicate yoshi in the level maybe the level did not supposed to be water based
Maybe? It would definitely would in support of the flutter jump over the gate to downtown
@@TheObsessiveGamer how do you imagine the level would have work without the water rising you could jump with yoshi platform to platform to reach the top or Far deficald places
@@longlivethesecondplaceice2736 That is what i'm thinking if there is no water in all of this. That is if they wanted the level to be unique to Yoshi is very possible.
The other possibility would be to simply speed up the level by still being water based and just having Yoshi avoid all the hurdles that makes the level tedious.
Good observation.
@@TheObsessiveGamer no thank you i don't write alot or ever in commands but this is interesting
Can you do one on BK and DK64?
DK64 I can do at some point. What's BK referring to? (other than Burger King? :P)
@@TheObsessiveGamer Banjo-Kazooie 😂
oh right now why did that escape my mind lol Yeah maybe at some point too
2:49
Don’t remind me please
Remind you Yoshi traversing platforms more easily?
I do personally feel like you were a bit clickbaity by making the video look like Yoshi was discovered in the files or leak but the video itself is good, i just think you should've advertised it as speculation or stuff. Good video tho, 8.5/10
I'm sorry you feel that way but I wasn't trying to make it clickbaity. I know this video comes a month after the leak, but I was already intending to make this Cut Content series back then but this leak happened around when I was planning to start that series. So I always had in mind to do an episode on Yoshi as well. Though I don't know of what other way i'd title it or show it. It's just the cut content on Yoshi in the very end that i'm presenting.
@@TheObsessiveGamer Its all fine, I also word things in a way i didnt instead to do so. The video is good, and your rlly underrated. I subbed.
@@johanjohan5881 No worries though and thank you very much!
@@TheObsessiveGamer No problem!
@betah o ok
Wait why do you have only Near 900 Subs ?
Good question lol Hopefully won't stay around that much for much longer
Are you going to do wario next
Something something April 1st maybe :P
I have Super Mario 64 on GameCube
I do think Yoshi was supposed to be an NPC from the beginning tbh.
They conformed in that interview that he was to used for an event, so it sounds much more like the traditional use of Yoshi
Oh shit
Welp time to commit tax fraud
Featuring Mario as the fradualt accountant at that :P
If your voice was a little bit lower you would sound like nicobbq
I hear this alot, though he has an accent however
not going to cap the video isn’t bad but it isn’t all that interesting neither.... lol but honestly tho when I seen your name the obsessive gamer I was like yeah I’m bout to subscribe to buddy that’s a nice name 💪😂
if this is a very late april fools joke, then i'm gonna purposfully glitch kirby's adventure ROM, claim it as an original japanese ROM, camouflage it, and sell it into the hands of the internet for a small price of $0 on some bootleg site
Nah, just covering the findings on how Yoshi was meant to be playable at one point. (though I am curious about such a ROM now :P)
Super Luigi 64 Yoshi was actually planned to have a bigger role in Mario 64
@@TheObsessiveGamer man, it sucks that i had to go at the premier :P
@@owendinostudios1200 yes
@@crystalmoon1 that's okay lol always next premier and you were there for much of the lead up
Everyone dont like joke pool anymore
Yeah no one does, thus why i'm happy it's not an April Fools joke. Just covering how Yoshi was meant to be playable at one point
Evryone is in peace when jake pool was in jail he hated now
The ice berg some deep stuff
L is real 2046 I think lol some versions there is dead luigi in sunken town level and wario head evil mario ded yoshi flipped universe toads stuck in walls peach stuck in wall yea that lot
3rd i think 🤔
Yoshi is better
Ok but Mario 64 ds
Sure and glad he came in. As stated in the video however, I do think he would have been a lot more buff than what we got in the DS version.
The Obsessive Gamer ah yeah sorry, I didn’t have enough time to watch the full video
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Well it's the first "no" though so far i've seen lol
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At first, the game was *Wario Land 64*. The idea was they didn't want to ruin Mario's reputation if the game was bad; so it was a *Wario* game. But then they saw that the game was *GREAT*, and so reskinned the whole thing. *THAT'S* why Wario is playable in SM64DS.