Spectre SMG at the Range
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The SITES Spectre was imported into the US primarily as a semiautomatic pistol - but it was really designed to be an SMG. It has an interesting closed-bolt fire control system, and in SMG for a metal top folding stock. Thanks to DSA, I have the opportunity to take one of these out to the range to try out!
Here's my previous video on the pistol version:
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It's not the recoil that moves the selector, but the release of the trigger. They rotates on a common axis, and probably, in 35 years of overuse, the bit that took the selector in place loosened.
Most of the time when he ran out of ammo, the selector didn't move. I suspect that it's actually both.
It might be that the selector can't move while the trigger is pulled and that last round while the trigger is being released is a big part of what's going on?
Sounds like something that can be fixed rather easily. At best it's just tightening a screw or nut and at worst it's bending a piece of metal back into position
Annoying none the less, also a safety issue if the weapon is not functioning as it should be.
Noticed that at the end too
@@benjaminshropshire2900On the mag dump at the end you can see that he lets the trigger go well after the gun settled. The amount of rotation there is purely due to the trigger being released.
It's neat that during the mag dump at the end of the video, the shells are coming out at nearly the same framerate as the camera, so they look like they're just kinda floating outside of the gun
THANKS for noting that. I went back to check and it IS sweet!
Cheers!
Now we're waiting for someone to make a Fallout mod for it.
Would love to see a video about you and Mike's favourite obscure firearms.
@@phlogistanjones2722 Seconding (thirding?) this. It is so odd, yet amusing.
oh wow thats so cool!
It's the Phantom from Goldeneye 64!
One of the coolest, albeit neglected SMG's finally gets some love.
7:45 : Ian is the most lovable gun expert
7:46 : Ian had seen all the secrets of WW2
His smile, gone
this has so much meme potential
That's radical. I love how SMGs in the original Black Ops (including the Spectre) start in PDW form and the grip attachment unfolds the stock. Neat little detail they apparently never thought was worth the effort after that.
Ian uploading at 2 am is always a treat!
But it's 5pm?
5pm Saturday afternoon here in Australia
@@phillxor please tell me you understand timezones
When I saw this notification on my phone, my brain went, "What time is it in the Arizona?" And "Our Lord and saviour clearly could not sleep?" LOL.
Excellent content as always :-)
@@phillxor 2 am in Missouri USA 🇺🇸
One of the first Quadstack Mag weapons, oh joy!
I'm a simple man. I see 007 Goldeneye's Phantom, I click.
A fellow man of culture I see
Dual wield on Frigate, the way God intended.
Monica
@@masonmaliwauki3673 donkey Kong mode and slow mo
To quote the Toad from Flushed Qway: "Huzzah! A man of quality!"
Considering the capacity and size I'm surprised these werent more popular with security and protection details. Seems it was only used to take French Frigates hostage!
After seeing the fire selector/safety in action, I no longer wonder why this this never got more popular.
@@josiahgibson6373it was broken. That is not how it is supposed to work.
@@josiahgibson6373mine doesn't have that particular safety... Nor have I seen it before. This looks modified
Seeing as these predate MP5s I'm surprised they didn't catch on either
@anewzack78 They don't predate the MP5, these were designed in the 80s.
I'm looking at that safety.... I don't think it's the recoil that's jostling it. That thing doesn't move a mill till Ian lets off the trigger, only then does it try to move back to safe.
My personal favorite SMG for its looks alone.
Ian being super excited for a firearm is the most adorably wholesome use of firearms in existence!
I got the opportunity to shoot I believe the first one that was ever imported into the country. I was working at a gun shop when the representative came by to show us the gun. I did not have that problem with the selector switch, and the weapon did have an issue with some of the early ones with not wanting to fire when the magazine was fully loaded you had to short load the magazine by 3 to about five rounds.
But that could have been the fact that the magazines we had were brand-spanking-new and hadn't quite achieved their first yield Point yet. I found it a fascinating weapon, but it did fire of it fast just like the one you're showing. It was quite a nice gun
That top-folding stock is extremely cool-looking, but I can't imagine wanting any vaguely modern subgun that can't mount an optic up there.
Fun fact: Thats what they call the "Phantom" in the 007 Goldeneye game.
THIS IS AWESOME!!! I’ve always wanted a range video of this!
What an amazing design! the stock is great how it hinges on the rear site and comes down into the shoulder and the support that slides into it - not to mention how it all folds away too. Amazingly compact gun!!
I just watched Léon: The Professional a few days ago, and one of the drug dealers that Léon and Mathilda are trying to bust uses a Spectre to defend himself, before he gets killed by Léon with a hand grenade. Many people probably see the gun as a bit generic, but I always liked the design.
It's actually a misconception that the dude had one of these, what that scene was, was Leon remembering the sound of his own Spectre being charged, so when he heard another subgun being loaded, he knew what to expect.
Ive loved that platform since i first saw it in a book by Ares.
_Only 5 years later!_
Most people probably forgot about the original video.
I remember this smg from the game Goldeneye on N64. 🎮
3:19 Best way to fire this particular gun, with the issue it has with the selector moving, might be to pull the trigger with your middle finger, and use your index finger to hold the selector in place.
sounds like a jb weld job honestly
Earliest Saturday Shoot evar!
Best Bond villain mook gun, even if it never made it onto the screen.
There are ghosts in this weapon Ah!
Most definitely gotta tighten up that selector switch... nice room broom....
Put a Holosun on it and fix the safety and that would be a very nice little SMG/PDW. I like it.
I was just thinking about the I, Robot Spectre until this video came out! How exciting!
I fired a full auto many years ago.After firing a full mag,the breach was not hot.Just a little warm.Great gun.
I am jealous once again. Australia has robbed me of all my fun tools, both short and long. The bunnies and roos are breeding in the millions, I was a force for good and a supplier of meat for the table, all because of one nutcase.
They just use the nutcases as an excuse.
Not enough people stood up.
Another Raven Shield Six 3 gun in the bag. Working through all of them and think I have seen most, if not all, of them here, except the Groza.
[Plus the SLR for real. And a few UK sniper, battlefield and competition rifles not in the game.]
Had one of these in 40 S&W. Kind of a hot mess. Traded it for an Uzi model A. Thanks for the share!!
The recoil putting it on semi or safe seems like a critical flaw, never had that problem in black ops, user error? 😂 great video!
I'd chalk that selector switch weirdness up to age more than anything. Might could be fixed with a little work.
I am amazed at the content of this channel.
Grail gun. Massive cool points.
i noticed that the saftey seemed stay in place with the stock folded, it seemed as though by letting the gun more gradually come to a rest after a burst kept the saftey up.
One of my favorites.
feels like this would make for an iconic gun for a ghetto/mafia shootout in a movie. thanks for sharing, I can't get the image of this being a "fast boi vz61" out of my head.
Never seen a gun rock itself to sleep before....
"Team deathmatch. Do what is necessary comrades."
Never could I ever imagine trusting my life to a gun that randomly safes itself in the middle of firing.
every house wife needs a spectre in her purse whem she goes shopping. every granny out for a stroll in the park needs a bag full of nuts for the squirrels and a spectre to keep the crows and pigeons away
That selector would get you killed in a firefight…
Wow that seems to be a great gun, thanks for sharing that piece to us
Yessss the spectre SMG! Finally! I keep telling Brandon Herrera to get one for his wall
Might have really been something to see if fired at night.
Goldeneye Favorite!
Gun Jesus when he plays Frigate on 00 Agent
That safety seriously need to be stiffened so that it stays in place and do not move when the gun is fired.
i almost feel like the safety selector was hanging on the trigger
That damn selector though. Its painfull to watch Ian having to move the selector every time he shoots a burst
Almost perfect SMG if wasnt for this
wait...wait...this is the 'phantom' from Goldeneye 64....hell yes
0:40 MORE THAN FANTASTIC!
How much for one magazine to buy back!😅
GREAT MAG DEAIGN I NEED FOR THE PROJECT I WORK ON!❤
Bro, EIGHT minutes ago? Lmao? Beautiful SMG :)
only a half way there video, it has a decocker lever thats why that moves roberto teppa did design it to be carried safe with a rnd in the chamber, closed bolt design so the first rnd would be fired in double action then the multiple parts closed bolt fire as in a usual smg. he recon the problems with the open bolt beretta m12 (s) models used by the local police back then where he lived in ltaly. the barrel uses a spl rifling to create a less accurate shooting for a more smg spreading effect opposing the fast cyclic rate and high accuracy by the closed bolt system. that was a problem by the semi auto versions, accuracy was never good on these. some got altered to use swiss made suomi coffin mags as the orig mags where hard to get eaven back then!
also the multi part bolt system did cool the action and the barrel down in a sucking blow motion that after fire 50 rnd at once full auto the chamber area of the barrel was only luke warm.
Another nice hybrid like the tec9
I have never seen this thing in real life before. Up until this video I've never seen it outside a very obscure game called Synthetik. Didn't know it was a real thing, or that the ingame name is actually the real name.
Wish he opened it up so we could compare the insides. I wonder if he could see the sights when he fired it with the stock closed. I'm guessing yes since he didn't mention it. With the repro stock I've got the latch for the folding buttplate is longer, compared to it being more square on the actual, and because of that it actually blocks the sights when folded shut. I also wonder if the full-auto selector on this was missing something that was causing it to rotate, which it actually seemed to rotate only as he release the trigger.
It looks like a pretty good weapon for vehicle crewman.
That's the boat level from Goldeneye 007.
Time to watch Forgotten Weapons. At 3:00 am. Weird time to upload.
Goldeneye theme intensifies
It's going to be a good weekend.
Nice solid gun. If selector switch is proper and rear sight enlarged it should be perfect!
That thing shoots fast. Pretty neat.
Always curious about this smg, showed up in a videogame and it was not really the gun you see alot of. (Edit is that the bolt or stock rattling 😂)
I loved this thing in BO1
50 round magazine makes it quite appealing i guess
Doesn’t the lever above the grip decock the hammer so that it can be carried with the safety off? The trigger pull looked rather long even without that.
Awesome gun.
thing looks like something Robocop would be packing while shooting baddies
I used to have a semi auto version of this weapon.
That safety switch changing during a burst is too annoying (or a surprise feature to stop you mag dumping?)
Thats quite an ending for a video :D
That selector switch believes it is a automatic safety!
Selector only moves when you let go of the trigger.
Think this was featured in La Piovra series as the motorcycle assassination weapon.
Sanjuro and La Piovra? You must be around 50, right?
I was 30-something at the time, too late to change now.. Besides I do use 5 instead of S ))
I have hard time to imagine it contain 50 bullets
Unusual that it's a closed bolt SMG. Aren't they usually open bolt?
Not usually especially with newer designs
But almost all the SMGs from ww1 and 2 were open bolt
That’s why most people think of open bolt smgs
I mean the only really famous non WW1-2 smg is the MP5 which is not open bolt
The 2am Spectre
Ahhhh now im gonna go boot up goldeneye....
Im kinda hoping the issue with the selector was specific to that gun alone?
I suppose theres a reason why these never caught on. Multiple reasons.
Remember this one from COD Black Ops, havn't seen it anywhere else
Hi Mr. Ian, I would like to know what is your diet like and if you workout or just walk/run and how frequently. Thanks.
looks like a fun SMG but the safety was really annoying.
6:18 - 6:30 "almost like its there for accuracy and to make it more controllable"
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*misses next two bursts like a boss*
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(At least thats what I could hear anyway)
Did they find that on a french frigate?
Better be a reloader if you're gonna feed one of those! 200 rounds in 6 minutes including commentary. But I like it!
Insert golden eye music
El mismo peso y forma del selector más el retroceso hace que se mueva a la posición safe.
Acaso no tiene un bloqueo de bola y resorte, que lo mantenga quieto?
Forgotten Weapons does Bond villain.
Did he get this from a weapons stache in Kowloon?
Almost 100% you have some sort of psychic ability every gun I research you do a video on a week or so later🤨
Were these issued to all SP.E.C.T.R.E. agents ?
Nice!
I get distracted by the safety switch and not actually see the shooting
YOU FLINCHED!!! I saw it! LoL
Gun Jesus is back at it again
Why does it have angled stock? Sure it lifts the sights, but that doesn't look too necessary and for fast shooting smg I'd think you'd benefit a lot from straight transfer without momentum that lifts the barrel up. It also looks silly like that on top of the functional things. Spectre itself makes me think of M5K, which is quite a cool gun. I'm sure that front grip helps quite a lot with vertical pull. That being said, either you're just so experienced or it doesn't kick up that much, because you hold the barrel in line quite neatly and in the video it goes more backwards than upwards. So it could be that my thought is just wrong about the stock in context of this gun.
One thing I've been wondering about. Fallout 1 & 2 games have this "10 mm submachine gun" that looks very generic, no stock and heavy body. It's used one-handed. I was wondering if there exists a real submachine gun that could fit as inspiration to that gun. If someone would know, it's probably Ian.
Black ops 1 had THE coolest submachine guns.