haha, i was thinkin bout that too, i like it, im australian and mexican, two of the countries you said, lol, but whats woolwich, i only know woolworths, me confundo
As someone from Chile 🇨🇱, people from other countries always get a little confused on why my country is really long and skinny, and it’s truly because we are a long hallway between the Pacific Ocean and the Andes, so when the Spanish Army founded the “Capitanía General de Chile” colony located in what’s modern day the capital Santiago, there wasn’t other option for expanding other than north or south 😅. So in some cases natural borders are just inevitable. Great video btw! I love finding new interesting channels 🙌🏼
It was so interesting to hear about Cascadia. While the people from East Tennessee identify themselves as Tennessean, me and a lot of other people from the area more identify as Appalachian (specifically Southern Appalachian). And I feel much more in common with Eastern Georgia, Western N. Carolina, Eastern Kentucky, Western Virginia and West Virginia than I do with the Tennessee Plateau or Mississippi River basin on our Western Border (a 7 and a half hour drive from where my Dad was born). And when I think about the culture of my region I think of the isolation of the mountains, a respect for nature, the history of coal mine exploitation. The conflict of the Creek and Cherokee, the relationship of the settlers with the Cherokee, the displacement of the Cherokee in the SE and the Eastern Band. Rugged individualism, a propensity to stay put. Inventiveness, folk music. I've even gotten in arguments with people who tried to describe me as Southern instead of Mountain. I wish there were more avenues for connection between the people of these regions. Reddit/Appalachia is pretty cool. People will bring up something from their area (like, when I was a kid, we would stand in the graveyard before dawn and sing to the rising sun) and see which other areas of Appalachia have the same tradition. Interesting video.
yeah people, especially americans, are very 'border' brained. our understanding of culture related to political vs physical boundaries is limited. and part of this is by design from colonization
Why do people accept borders in the first place? A fence works both ways, and these are just fences for humans. On the day we are born, we are immediately subjugated by force to an entity we have never met, and likely never will. And would deny this happens many many years before the age of consent. Yes, it is that word that starts with the letter "R." Except it lasts a lifetime and is done to everyone. This is the exact opposite of Freedom.
@@Claudia-Ayuso so you're applying to live in another country while simultaneously trying to dismantle it. You're an embarrassment. Consider self-reflection. PS: The UK is a geographically mapped out country already, it's literally an island.
I live in Czechia (middle Europe) and one thing that I love about it is that you can see it on every borderless map. It is just almost completely surounded with mountains and I think that's how borders should look like.
@@kolomaznik333 well, it used to be. the area between Drava and Danube rivers (northern serbia and northern croatia) is mostly Hungarian populated too, so those two could be a better southern border. but for the northern borders, a natural Danube border wouldn't make sense, as it now separates a city that was also mostly Hungarian populated, so natural borders don't always work, i guess.
Natural borders exist. A countries borders only exist in the imagination of those who seek to oppress the masses, and those who don't understand that all of their Freedom was stolen away from them on the day they were born.
On the contrary! A nation should ideally include more than one bioregion. Because different bioregions means different resources. That prevents nations from being dependent on resource importation.
The whole video seems to be about creating economies that don't depend on moving resources around, but instead on using local resources as much as possible. An industrial economy like we're used to probably isn't possible in that kind of world, since so much industrial production depends on bringing distant resources together.
Exactly, it would lead to "countries" where there is only desert bioregion, which is completely insane that you think anyone would live there. And if noone lives within those borders, it can't be a country
Yes the whole premise of the video is insane. Political borders are meaningful. Just asked Ukraine. Just ask the country Georgia. Ask the Palestinians. Assuming that we can divide up land based on on the features of nature is asking for wars. The way we divided up the land in the 19th century and 20th century to create the borders that we have today was another form of insanity but now that we have them it is a terrible idea to even think of changing them. We just have to live with what we have. Where does this revisionist perfectionist concept of redefining boundaries come from? Given that it would create so much bloodshed, it seemed like an elitist idea to perfect the world.
@@joythought I agree, although at the time the borders were drawn, there weren't much political differences between the lands north and south of the 49th parallel. Now that the populations have been divided for 200+ years, there are.
Wow! Excellent presentation of bioregionalism! Well done Claudia! Well done Brandon as well. by the way I am the designer of the Cascadian bioregional flag that popped up a couple of times.
Dude you literally put a tree on a blue, white, and green tricolor. That flag could literally just as well apply to Siberia, or Michigan, or Finland. Try and throw in some Cascadian culture and history. Maybe reference your split between the US and Canada, or include a symbol from one of your indigenous tribes, and didn't you guys fight a war over a pig in the San Juan isles, maybe put a pig on your flag.
As someone who definitely lives in the southern end of the Cascades hundreds of miles south of her ideal border, I do not give my consent. Indeed I was forced into becoming an American on the day I was born, as were all "Americans." It's not just indigenous peoples who suffer this subjugation, but as a white person I have to say we are less oppressed being of the majority/most powerful. _Power corrupts, and ultimate power corrupts ultimately._
maybe i missed the part of the video where she says “let’s make nations off bioregions” but i’m so confused why everyone thinks she’s arguing that. she’s just talking about the idea of bio regions and how it’d be cool and nice, not telling people to make them or whether or not it’s feasible. it was super interesting! it’s a concept that i’d never heard of before but makes so much sense!
Exactly. When she speaking with indigenous tribes, that’s when she acknowledges the set backs of the idea, and when it doesn’t meet the needs of people living on the ground.
Yeah, the videos I find to contain the most informational/educational value are the ones, that draw you in with their premise, and whether or not they deliver on it, use it as na excuse to tell an interesting story and show you a new perspective of looking at the subject at hand and world around us in general, just like this one.
While I disagree with the entire concept of forcefully dividing people with borders, be they natural or imaginary (as in a countries borders), I agree that people need to not assume her intentions, and instead listen to what she said. But then, what is the point? That's my question. This division only serves the interests of the Wealthy Elite who demand we are complicit from the day we're born. No age of consent even considered.
@@jubmelahtes thats only in Africa. unironically only nationalists want to change current world borders oin the Americas, the only exemption being the US-Canadian border that some people make videos like this, or border towns threatening to join the other country if the state/province doesn't give them money to make roads and bridges lol
@@jubmelahtes It would be interesting to take a look at other places though, even Europe, just to trace what borders are natural and which are not, because these also tell a story
@@jubmelahtes Romania, Ireland/NI, Ukrainian Ruthenia, the near east, just a couple of examples of unnatural Eurasian borders but yea by and large African, South and North American borders are more unnatural. A lot of the provincial borders in Canada are based on watersheds and thus are pretty natural, even if our border with the US isn't
Yeah I was expecting her to cover Africa's borders as well, since its borders are incredibly unnatural and were drawn up by the Europeans during decolonisation and not the natives.
@@kepspark3362 I just took the existing countries (I also split the US and UK into their respective states/countries since they have their own borders) and remapped them according to rivers and mountains. It was a just a little thing I tried doing for myself so I haven't shared it anywhere. Finding a free, large topological world map proved to be a little hard from what I can remember, but I did find a grayscale version, so I used it.
Why impose these imaginary borders in the first place? They only benefit the Wealthy Elite by making the rest of us mere cattle to do their bidding. Borders are nothing more than fences for humans. Rivers, mountains etc, are merely obstacles, not borders.
@@DaWorldGuardian001I’ve done similar things based largely on drainage basins and biomes. It was encouraging to see this video and also know I’m not alone in that hobby.
South Americas borders somewhat follows these principles. Brazil's borders are almost completely defined by bioregions. Brazil includes pretty much the whole of the Atlantic rainforest, Cerrado, pantanal, and Caatinga biomes. And includes large parts of the Amazon, the borders being drawn in the Guyana Plateau and the Andes. it also goes into the states as well, with borders being drawn in plateaus, mountains and rivers
I thought the same thing. Another great example is the Amazon rainforest and how people are just free to cross from one country of the other as citizens of the forest.
The anglo-americans went mostly for imaginary borders to organize their territories while latin-americans had bioregions in mind way before their northern neighbors to do the same job. I don't get where this woman came up with the idea that bioregions are an innovative idea when Latin America and Europe are right next to the US and Canada.
This is a topic I've been considering for a long time. A few other things to think about: 1. The Brazilian government has the right to cut down their rain forest. But this would impact the entire world. Conversely, the almost all of North & South America was once covered in a rain forest, of which the Brazilian rain forest is all that is left. If the other countries decided to invest in massive re-forestation, that could also benefit the entire world. The impact of bio-systems is well beyond themselves and borders shouldn't matter. We need economic models to compensate countries with higher forest cover, to encourage investment in systems that can benefit other nations. 2. A natural border (mountains, seas, rivers, etc) are natural defence systems. Forming nations around these means you don't have to invest as much in your nations defence and can focus on other, more productive, activity. 3. Most of our future conflict will be for water. This has already happened in several regions. Distribution of, maintenance and replinishing water resources will have to be the basis of any nation building.
As a French Canadian and Native American who lived in South America, I really enjoyed your video. I am so happy that someone else talks about this topic!!Thank you😘
Just a little point: The indigenous people still live around there and many still speak Coast Salish languages-Halkomelem, Lushootseed, and several others. I've read that there are even bilingual road signs in some places.
I am an indigenous person from Vancouver, Canada and spent a lot of time growing up in Point Robert’s! There’s actually no hospital in the town and they have to go through Canada and back to Washington through care and it prevents people from getting help in a timely manner.
I’m guessing people 20-30 thousand years ago knew where the borders were. It was, if you go past that river, or over that hill, you will get killed or captured by the neighboring group.
It's actually because when you don't have cars and trains to move, crossing a large river or mountains is stenuous. Thus, it kept people somewhat isolated from each other which then developped different cultures and languages Large rivers and mountains are also a natural wall that protects you from invasions to some extent This is also why the nations that were built in large plains were regularly invaded by empires one after the other
What a cool idea from a priviledged post war perspective. And once a bioregion has completely aligned it's internal perspective, the most productive bioregions can push their will on the less productive ones ignoring the perspective of the less productive regions. Bio-regions often get split because two groups both want access to the same benefits.
but does she really talk about the complete independence of the bioregion? Well, the same Cascadia could be completely part of the USA. With access to the US infrastructure and all that. I don't see any problems. Especially since Canada is not a real country)
@@madnessage Since when the f**k was Canada not a real country. It's the 2nd biggest country by landmass, has the world's largest reserves of freshwater and 3rd largest oil reserves. My province produces the most Uranium and potash in the whole world. If you want BC and parts of Alberta, you gotta pay for every sq km. Google whats a km if you don't know. If you are talking about defense, I am pretty sure the whole NATO, Russia, China and other world power has something to say about USA annexing Canada.
You are acting like states imposing their will on other states is something that doesn’t already exist. Same with regions splitting in civil war. As if these things don’t already happen
I'd love to see a world without the imaginary borders imposed on humanity by the Wealthy Elite for their personal profit/power. I was born in a "country," and therefore immediately subjugated to whims of the Wealthy Elite who thousands of years have divided humanity with bigoted ideals like nationalism, classism, and racism all for their own personal profit/power. I did not consent to being an American on day one! I am an Earthling.❤🌍🌎🌏🌐
0:26 1.4 million just isn't a lot, whatsoever. Like an atom sized drop in the entire earth's oceans compared to what both countries spend on military and social services.
it's still for a really dumb purpose. not to mention, clearing out the trees actually separates these natural habitats physically and can negatively impact the movement of native species, leading to genetic separation and more vulnerable populations. but ofc, there are definitely worse injustices if we're shifting focus to look at politics in general and away from conservationism in particular.
Maybe people need to step back and see what countries and their borders actually are. Borders are just fences for humans. Countries are just the consolidated profit.power of the Wealthy Elite to subjugate those born on the part of the planet they are their predecessors imposed on humanity by force.
@@onelusciouslad7841 : Why? I'm not saying you don't have a good answer, just saying if you do have one, that means something. Just saying x,y, or z is bad, is not saying anything. That's just expressing distaste for some undisclosed reason. And for all we know, you have a great reason, but from this vantage point, it seems just as likely you don't have any reason at all. I'm certain you can do much better. 🙂
"people who don't live in a place drawing borders on a map at some table far away causes chaos" *proceeds to draw borders on a map at some table far away* I think it's great to have concern for the environment and for people who live in it, but even with those in mind, prescribing new borders from the outside without the input of residents is not a good idea. it's clear this is more of a thought exercise, but one has to be careful about this kind of thing; it comes with a lot of nasty colonialist/imperialist baggage. glorifying the "natural" can also be iffy. natural disasters are also natural! nature does not have a will that aligns directly with human needs! we ought to build human constructs (like borders) for human purposes. we should take nature into account! we all owe a duty of stewardship to the land. but nature won't be stopped by borders; it doesn't care where we put them. WE care. current borders are not great, but we can't say imposing new ones would be amazing without a LOT of consideration. If we're radically rearranging borders, we should rethink our base assumptions about what borders are for and to what extent we need them at all. also, one of the interviewees here sort of implied that nomadic peoples didn't/don't fight each other over territory. i don't know much about prehistory, but in the last few thousand years at least, this is straight-up false... then again, we are talking about prehistory. I am not a historian and may be wrong, but my instinct is that no paradise with human populations well below the carrying capacity of the land ever existed for very many generations after humans reached a place. low population density probably reflected available huntable/forageable resources. agriculture just would have increased that carrying capacity. would be interested to hear a different perspective!
pre-historic nomads 100% fought each other, we have the evidence for it. infact the biggest genocide in history (relative to population sizes) was the 'indo-european' nomad's migration into northern europe in pre-historic times. they also invaded southern europe but the demographic replacement wasn't as severe.
Maybe you missed it - but the idea of Cascadia and bioregional mapping emerged from this area, especially in the 1970's and 1980's, and then through a series of Cascadia Bioregional Congresses. Bioregional mapping, from Chilcotin, Nis'gaa, Wetsuweten in the 1980's. She was just helping outline the natural boundaries as a visual aid.
@@BrandonLetsinger I feel like the video, for being about 'redrawing borders,' didn't seriously enough consider the political implications of such a radical act (for example, who would be imposing these borders & what it would mean for residents). But I did miss that part while thinking about other things. That's good to know. Thanks :)
@@soupo-sandwichyeah as someone in the region these are all real concerns of many proponents of the movement. For many the cascadia movement isn't about redrawing the borders along natural lines but more about trying to promote regional interconnectedness and self sufficiency in spite of the existing borders.
Umm so less than 30 seconds into the video I'm convinced this channel is the lovechild of Johnny Harris and Cleo Abram from their time at Vox. Brava Claudia 👏👏👏 Immediately subscribed!
Ew, Johnny Harris has been caught straight up lying, fabricating data, using propaganda, accepting bribes from the World Economic Forum to push certain agendas instead of facts.....please do not turn into a Johnny Harris. He is as unethical as they come.
I was coming here to comment just that. Looks like a video by Johnny Harris, content, style of presentation, even editing, cutting to her motion of sitting down on floor, etc. very influenced I’d say, but still her own flair. Great video
Bioregionalism is idiotic if you genuinely know anything about politics. It will lead to areas like the Great Plains and Appalachia being cut off from the economic frameworks that keep them alive and functioning. Infrastructure needs to be taken into account, and any region that cannot sustain itself will fall apart completely. Furthermore, you would be cutting apart communities of united people that don't even want independence.
As a Washingtonian, I truly appreciate someone exploring our region of the country as well as discussing that the native peoples of this land truly understand what the land means to all life.
First learned about bioregionalism on Instagram a few years back, and was confused why almost no one (outside of select Native American orgs) was talking about it. So glad to see this video pop up in my YT feed.
@@joetibbles1688true. And even if it did serve as a firebreak that doesn’t mean it’s anything more than arbitrary. Canada or the USA could make any number of firebreaks anywhere.
One struggle with remapping, though. Is we can't just forget history happened. Whenever a border disappears politically, the histories and cultures of the area happened there and will be in conflict.
You need to be careful relying too heavily on bioregions to inform politics. On the Australian continent there are seven defined bioregions, but only one (East Australian Temperate Forests & Mountain Shrublands (AU3)) encompasses the vast majority of the entire continent’s wealth and population. Our current political divisions splits this economic dominance amongst four states, with no one able to assert itself upon the others. While there may be other arguments for bioregionalism, Cascadia is a singular phenomenon, both in terms of ecological sustainability and political self-interest. Cascadia is not a model for universal bioregionalism, and should not be touted as the example.
Although I see the borders of countries as human-cattle ranches, I agree with you. If we're going to have countries, we should still seek to free ourselves from the Wealthy Elite who impose this tyranny on humanity for their personal profit/power.
Yep, technically the entire area from moscow to the netherlands (including ukraine) are a single bioregion, the european plains. I don't think anyone thinks it would be a good idea to lay all of that area under the control of one government.
Very interesting for sure, but I can’t help feel this is very idealistic. I mean you’re talking about creating new countries and carving out old ones. In the event we are all united under one flag that represents earth. This seems more realistic kind of, but even in the cascade bio region, there are 15 different cultures all just in the Frazier valley. In most instances (drawn on borders in a room) don’t make much sense, but you’re arguing for the creation of entirely new countries to solve ecological problems that also require some sort of organization and funding. How would you define these regions allegiances? What other countries are you creating? Are there identities that these people would be opposed to identifying as? Not trying to put you down or be rude or anything, but this feels like a geologists solution to an ecologists problem by spitting on the face of anthropologists.
Thank you so much for covering this. As a resident of the Southern Oregon Coast, I’ve always thought a lot about how much more sense it would make to organize boundaries according to watershed. Maybe we’ll have a chance to someday.
I'm gonna be honest, looking at the map from 17:30, the Sheer amount of Genocides that would come from Dividing Africa according to it's ecological bioregions would be WILD. Like it'd be a Genocide Battle Royale looking at those subdivisions. I'm saying this as a South African, most of the Borders in Central, Western and Eastern Africa already BARELY work because of how many ethnicities are grouped together into singular states, if you implement the borders from bioregions, it will get SOOOOO much Worse. Like, unironically exponentially worse
Yeah, you have to consider your heaviest influences. They nail the first heavy hitter. Water can and will often win, and we spend a LOT across the planet fighting it just to manage a handful of reservoirs for irrigation, rationing, and power purposes. The second heavy hitter is easily the humans. Humans form groups over all sorts of things, and while one region has a group that's formed up over ecologically driven concerns that happen to reach clearly across a number of other borders, the vast majority of the world operates at vastly different levels from that, whether you're looking at North America and Europe, where logistics has pretty well overcame the vast majority of geological barriers, or Africa, where there's a great deal less time and resources easily available to leave someone the ability to focus on the ecological, natural, boundaries when they're busy literally fighting for their lives over the areas the subset of the population they happen to identify with can exert control over, both in the hopes of ending the fighting from others, and simply controlling enough resources to get by. Some "natural" borders apply by happenstance because of their strategic and tactical value, though, so it has that going for it. Group A isn't going to just ignore the atrocities group B's committed against them because a "nature" defined border that makes sense ecologically happens to encompass both as a singular "region".
I’m surprised you didn’t mention the relation of bioregions to common climate, common geography, common farming methods, common water resources, and common infrastructure.
0:50 Ye I don't know what happened there. US/Canada border is 8891 Kilometers long. Then she says if you were to summit it instead of walk it you would have 50 meters left and shows that Mt.Everest us 8849 METERS tall. Did she get confused between meters and kilometers? Is that a US not knowing metric system problem ? I mean a lot of work went into that animation so it was not simply missed.
The US not knowing about the metric system? Are you serious? Do you actually not understand the foundational misunderstanding of that incorrect viewpoint? Do you just blindly accept things "the crowd" says without actually asking yourself if its true or not? If you don't understand it and can't take a few minutes and think about it yourself.....I can explain it to you. I don't mean to attack you in any way..... its just that it amazes me how common this incorrect belief is. I think it must come from people blindly believing things if enough people repeat them and not having the curiosity to think about it themselves.
@@chandie5298 It was a joke you silly goose. Dont get your knickers in a twist. The video creator made a mistake between meters and kilometers and went all the way out to make an animation saying that the us canada border is the same as Everest.
@@stormxlr I'm happy to hear that it was a joke. You'd be amazed at the number of otherwise intelligent people who actually believe that people in the US don't know about the metric system and do not commonly use it (of course, we do). Yes... my knicker's were in a bit of a twist, admittedly.......because that very obvious false claim is so commonly made.....especially in forums such as this. It gets aggravating after a while.......just as claims about the British all having bad teeth (they do not) and the French rarely ever bathing (they do frequently). Yes....she gets points for putting in the effort to correct that mistake.......doesn't quite excuse the video whose viewpoint is something one would expect from an elementary school child who has exactly zero understanding of the history of humanity and human nature (which incidentally applies to every group of mammals that exists now or has ever existed; the difference being that most animals are limited by their environment whereas humans have advanced to the point that we control the environment.....actually, other animals also control their environment to a large extent....those damned beavers).....but yes, I applaud her efforts in fixing the point you brought up.
This is the first of your videos I've found. Such an interesting topic. Well researched and informative. Also congratulations on your citizenship. I live in Berkshire and it's very encouraging that young energetic minds are still contributing to our communities (and the world) regardless of where they originate from.
"Borders are a scar on the face of the planet" - Yanis Varoufakis Bioregionalism is a step toward a future where we are just humans living in our communities and free to travel this beautiful planet we call home in these blips of time we call a life.
Scars are but wounds long-healed. Borders are there to protect distinct human groups in their uniqueness. Not that a "Globanite" like you would understand.
@@Oera-B globanite? 😂 you don’t need borders to have a group of individuals share their own cultures and beliefs. Borders aren’t anything more than made up lines those in power fight over sending the poor to die. Ukraine and Gaza now are suffering from simply having a border. That what it boils down to.
Bioregionalism is idiotic if you genuinely know anything about politics. It will lead to areas like the Great Plains and the Deep South being cut off from the economic frameworks that keep them alive and functioning. Infrastructure needs to be taken into account, and any region that cannot sustain itself will fall apart completely.
free travel is bad idea. borders exist for a reason. before the EU sex trafficking was largely erradicated in western europe and close to it in europe in general, but the ability to move people across borders made it so much easier for the criminals to avoid getting caught and so it sky rocketed. the same goes for european drug market. not everyone is a responsible steward who can be trusted with the priviledge of roaming.
I love this sooo much!!!!!! I’m a farmer in western North Dakota and have been working on regenerative agriculture but still looking at grids… this makes so much sense even for small environments as well!!!!!!
Just looking at the brief glimpse we were given at 17:33 of what I'm assuming is potential world borders based on biomes, just the tip of Florida is a part of the country of the Caribbeans. Felt silly and unrealistic. I feel that larger regions make sense to section off to like minded biomes, but there should be a respect of natural borders and an understanding that humanity isn't just their biomes, humanity is their culture. If the Texans of dry deserts feel the same way about things as the Texans of piney wetlands 9 hours away, then it makes sense for them to be under the same governing. Love the video, very fun topic and good job making good content as such a small channel!
I think it goes beyond human culture and beyond the duality of humans independent from nature. It may seem silly and unrealistic if the mindset of the majority of humans doesn't expand beyond the limits of culture, which is man-made and in service for humans only. But at the same time, it is realistic and serious to consider that majority of humans today aren't ready to surrender back to the systems of nature and go redraw borders based on biomes and what nature says. It takes a lot of paradigm shifts and metaphysical understanding of the world for humans to transcend to this higher levels of thinking, which will redefine their mindset and purpose within the earth. Humans in general still have a lot of ego, which influences a lot of the politics and territory we have today. Due to this, humans still need some more time to evolve as a species where our thinking goes beyond paradigms of tribalism, fundamentalism, pragmatism and materialism, paradigm of science and technology, paradigm of cultures, environmentalism, and so on. It's an integration of all of these mindsets while honing a systematic thinking that everything is interconnected and one. Humans today in general, at least most of the developed west, still view this transcended mindset as woo woo and new age-y, without realising that this is the necessary path of human evolution for the future. It's letting go of a lot of what human collectives everywhere define themselves in order to see the bigger picture of reality beyond their culture. I mean, people are now learning a lot about different cultures, and some of them are adopting and embodying cultural ways alien to them whenever it resonates. Although, there are several countries and states/regions today that do follow more closely to this biomistic approach of creating territory regardless of current human developement and present culture. I guess they have theirs going on lucky.
The Arawak language in the Caribbean was also spoken in southern Florida, so these bioregions made sense for people for over a thousand years. Also Texas is extremely politically split, are you kidding me?
the production quality of this video is like came out of a channel with over 1M subs, what a great quality and delivery, I believe soon this channel will reach over 100k
Omg thank you so much for your content ! I just discovered your channel and I'm in love! As said by someone else in the comments (the fat controller I think) I also didn't realize that you don't have millions of subs until I saw their comment lol
I have been getting really disenchanted with geography videos on youtube lately but this one had me just as exited to learn as I used to be at 14 just getting into geography content on youtube. Throughout university I have dealt with these concepts around bioregions, ecological governance, and indigenous soverighnty a lot, so It is really refressing to see them on youtube in a very polished and apporachable lense. Keep up the good work and definently earned a sub.
specifically, this geography video (and channel) seems to have a more activist / progressive mindset. it's a bit like mossy earth and planet wild, with a focus on rational conservationism.
I've long thought that shared jurisdictions would be the next step given the world of nation-states we have now. These would be places where there is a unified government that handles some of the affairs of the region, with various agreements between two (or more) national governments on how to deal with resources, security, citizenships, policy, and more. Cascadia would be a good place for one such region, though it would be a lot of work to make such a place work.
This. A shared overlaying government could take into account ecological and environmental stewardship... but removing most political boundaries is not necessarily a great idea. For example, in "Cascadia," the city of Portland and most of its suburbs have a shared regional government, Metro, that includes three counties and plans interlocking transit routes, waste disposal, etc. Absolutely acknowledge shared ecological concerns with joint regulation...but don't prioritize removing established borders, whether created for poor reasons or not, because in the here and now they (generally) serve purposes and populations have built their life choices around the stability of them.
The idea of removing dams and returning riparian areas to their natural habitat feels great but these dams were built there for legitimate reasons. Aside from flood control these dams were built for electricity. In a world where we are trying to reduce our carbon footprint and move away from internal combustion engines in favor of electric vehicles, how are we going to replace the electricity lost by the destruction of these dams? This area is totally unsuitable for things like wind or solar so the answer is probably going to be natural gas or some other kind of carbon producing fuel. We are now going to need to spend hundreds of billions of dollars creating new power sources and all of that cost is going to be transferred to the consumer. Ultimately I'm not sure that the removal of these dams is a win for anybody's environmental vision. Great video. Good luck.
Some dams re good, but too many will destroy nature and society. For example china plans to dam many rivers in the himalayas, it will cause drought in myanmar, india, and bangladesh. Another example is ethiopia, they will literally start a war with egypt and sudan because of new nile dam.
It's a win for the Yurok people. The affected parties (including PacifiCorp, the for-profit electric utility*) have agreed to the removals. One of the dams has already been removed. This plan is going forward. * The sticking point was that PacifiCorp wanted to pass the removal costs onto US taxpayers.
Often they weren't. If you do research, many of the dams, such as the Elwah, or current Deschutes Dam removals were either built illegally, have long since stopped providing power - or in the case of the Deschutes, was simply built to provide the Washington capitol with a reflection pool under the state capitol. It will now cost hundreds of millions do undo even that one basic example.
Great subject. And it makes me emotional too as when I was a child I used to draw maps of fantasy worlds and even move borders according to river basins. I still love geography. Thanks for your informative video. ☺️
Problem is nothing binds people within these bio regions but them living in the region ... Linguistic differences ethnic differemces and cultural diffetences would come in the way and cause civil unrest ...
Sorry for the LONG ass comment. Feel free to just skim or ignore, as it's really just a collection of my thoughts on the topic. I hate to break it to you, but there's already lots of civil unrest in the US and the world. All over the world, national borders drawn with barely a nod to native populations are much more apt to cause unrest than borders that consider SOMETHING. In many cases, improving borders by considering bioregional stewardship could only create stronger communities. Of course, bioregions are more than certainly not the only thing to consider when it comes to border revision, hypothetical or otherwise. I think it’s clear that this video tends more towards “food for thought” than “Dr. Ayuso’s Border Cure Prescription”. It’s an exploration of bioregions- full stop. It’d be nigh impossible to fully explain a complete worldwide or even national border revision considering every factor ever, and I think the concept of doing that seriously without having meaningful and extensive discussion with many, many local populations is ludicrous. To go through the process would take years, decades even, and to explain it all to the public would take more than a youtube video, even two or three. That hasn’t stopped some from trying, though! While it’s limited in scope (it considers exclusively land which is already currently considered part of the US) and certainly isn’t perfect, there’s a pair of videos on a channel called “Monsieur Z” on an idea called The Balkanization Proclamation, a title which I believe to be an ode to the culturally-driven breakup of Yugoslavia into the set of Balkan nation-states which we have today. (To Balkan folks, I’m sorry for oversimplifying your history like that, but this comment is already way too long. I encourage folks who don’t already know about the Balkan region and the breakup of Yugoslavia to look into that. It’s not only very interesting, it’s important history!) The first installment Monsieur Z’s two-parter is titled “What If Every State In America Had Natural Borders? | American Politics”, and if you’re into these sorts of things, you should definitely watch it. From the description: “The state borders of the United States are arbitrary, and need to be redrawn. Monsieur Z redraws the borders of the U.S states by accounting for culture, geography, history, economics, religion, politics, and more.” To me, it’s a fun exploration of how these factors could be considered when reimagining borders. But as it stands, current US borders are, unfortunately, a bunch of straight lines. (There was this excellent show called “How The States Got Their Shapes”, which, as the name implies, dives into how these lines were drawn. It's incredibly interesting!) And while the idea of a prescribed border revision from one party (like that put forward in the Monsieur Z videos) goes against what I already said about the necessity of involving locals in border discussion and really letting folks decide what’s best for them, something as well researched as the videos from Z and his accomplices would definitely be an improvement over the current lots-of-straight-lines system (though, again, locals would need to be heavily involved in the discussion before the revision could be prescribed). Right, back to your point- I disagree that nothing connects the people within bioregions. Bioregional borders could allow for a deeper connection to the land's original stewards, the Indigenous peoples who managed these ecosystems for millennia before other folks came along and drew borders all over them. The common goal of protecting a local biosphere is certainly nothing to sneeze at, either. Honestly, I think it’s silly that any individual group should need their own land. With empathy, I think it’s important for previously divided groups to work together to grow stronger, more connected communities. In many cases, this will require some often difficult acknowledgements of the past- colonization, enslavement, and genocide are certainly not topics to gloss over or pretend to forget- but over time, I think communities that work hard can be stronger as diverse teams. Conclusively, bioregions are a starting point, not a sole consideration. They should be taken into account because of their potential to foster a sense of shared responsibility for local ecosystems, which in turn can help build more cohesive and resilient communities. The idea isn’t to ignore cultural, linguistic, or ethnic factors, but to complement them by aligning communities with the natural environment they inhabit.
I´ve been following and listening to your podcasts since i was like 14 (im 20 now) and I stumbled across this video by chance, and how happy I am that I did!! new hyperfixation for the year omg
Something you have not really mentioned is culture and language. If we are going to be drawing borders according to geographical logic and stuff, then people who speak a different language would be grouped together (like French and Dutch, Russian and Latvian, or Vietnamese and Cambodian)
Commenting from the Salish Sea! 💙 Thank you for your video and for sharing your thoughts on this beautiful place I call home. Your videos are so well put together and animated. I just discovered your channel and I can’t wait to see what else you create! ☺️
I think borders may need to be organized into city states. Most of our political fighting is urban vs rural. Different wants and needs. Let the cities have a very large amout of autonomy but it only extends to city borders. Leave large areas of land between cities to govern themselves.
As someone who works with bioregions and kindof defines them I can tell you there are no correct bioregions based on ecology because there are endless ways to split things up. Look up maps of bird conservation regions and avifaunal biomes. Both ignore borders in the Americas. Also, we have to cut down trees to keep forests healthy unless we are going to let fires burn.
Yes to all of this (there's an episode about trees and fires coming)! And to your first point, this was why I included the explanation of how we're mapping the bioregions I'm talking about in this video
Just found your channel, your videos are fascinating. It's the nice mixture of your great editing, the research you put into this video and also more importantly the kind of energy you bring on. Keep crushing.
There are a few issues with this video. First is the idea that we would have to completely rearrange our national borders to be more cooperative with our neighbors when it comes to the environment. A region does not need to be in the same country for the people to take care of it. The second issue is of the dams. You bring this up as an example but to my knowledge these dams are not apart of any border so you are making the case for no dams purely on environmental grounds and has no connection to borders. Finally, the better example of this would have either been the US-Mexican border where building a physical barrier has impacted the ability of wildlife to cross or Africa where having borders with straight lines has impacted communities being split up far more than the US-Canadian border or US states.
It is relevant because the dams are used for diverting water outside of the river's watershed but within the state that has legal rights to the river's water.
I love the real motive of the video. Borders don’t matter. Borders weren’t stolen and the I saw what happened to the ungrateful and bigoted Klamath tribe leadership. They have cause unnecessary suffering for not only their own people but others and they aren’t testing down Shasta dam in your video. That is never going to happen. Salmon can easily go up the cosumnes, American and feather rivers. But you probably have no clue what I am talking about and therefore shouldn’t be talking about matters you don’t understand in California or Oregon
@@thefelonattorneyyeah she makes abound of really stupid points she says damns are bad which is not true they are necessary for electricity in some place and prevent floods makes it seem like it harms fish which even if it does why would I care there fish like what and if your gonna complains about borders all of Africa is there with you she makes. A lot of bad faith arguments
I don't think "according to nature" is correct - for eg, as a Cascadia resident, there's a massive cultural divide between coastal northwesterners and inland northwesterners. We don't want to include Eastern Washington, let alone parts of Idaho!
I think the problem with using rivers as borders, is that sometimes their paths change. This has happened with the Rio Grande, for example, and there is now a city that is basically America in Mexico.
Hola Claudia! He repetido unas cuantas veces el inicio del vídeo para asegurarme de que no lo estaba entendiendo mal. Dices que la frontera de US-Canadá es ligeramente superior en longitud que la altura del monte Everest. El Everest mide 8km y pico, que si lo ponemos en llano, es la distancia que puedes recorrer yendo a dar un paseo. Obviamente la frontera entre US y Canadá es infinítamente más larga que eso. ¿Es posible que hayas mezclado metros con kilómetros?
Hola! Gracias por avisarme, efectivamente me he equivocado con la comparación. Ya lo he corregido para que no salga esa parte. Tendré más cuidado la próxima vez.
Dams are not the problem, obstructive dams are, you need dams like Sorumsand Dam in Sorumsand, Norway. Dams that use the Beaver model of creating a path for the river to flow freely and naturally, as well as a section where it can bunch up and be of use to both people and nature that requires calmer water areas.
Guau! No sabía que tenias un acento tan tan tannnn buenísimo!! Lo hablas super bien el inglés, tanto que hasta te cambia la voz!. Y el canal tiene muy buena pinta la verdad, enhorabuena por este nuevo proyecto que emprendes!
I agree with a lot of what was said but some of it seems like a stretch or at least isn’t backed up well. For example, I don’t understand how damming the Klamath river has anything to do with straight line borders. Seems more like an issue of disrespecting locals and valuing industrial “progress” over ecological sustainability. Overall it was a very enjoyable video thanks!
Me acabo de encontrar con este vídeo y este canal, y no puedo evitar ver las similitudes con HUGE (if true) de Cleo Abram, y lo digo en el buen sentido, necesitamos más canales así, ánimo con el proyecto 🙌🏻
The production quality of this video was really well done, it was a well researched video, but I must say that the title was somewhat misleading to me. I was expecting a "rebuild" of the world borders based on Nature, you know, giving a brief history on why such country had borders that were so unnatural (Africa and Middle East have a ton of that due to colonialism) and how with nature that could be solved (I'd imagined that it would've been a mix of Real Life Lore and Atlas Pro). But instead, it was just the US-Canada border, specifically Cascadia with some history regarding the natives of that region and their hardships. I mean, what was exactly the goal of the video is my question, it wasn't what the title suggested, since we only did Cascadia, and the other two main points (actually creating countries according to bioregions and the disruption that dams caused to nature and natives) weren't (in my opinion) really explored as in depth as it should've been. Like, how would actually rearranging the world borders according to bioregions look like? How do we take into account a fully globalized economy with milions of people dependent on it? Dams are a disruption to local nature? But at the same time, they're probably the most cleanest and green solution to production of high amounts of energy, right? My country (Brazil) has one the cleanest energies in the world, because like 80% of it come from hydroelectric dams, instead of coming from fossil fuels and etc. So I don't know, I enjoyed the video, but at the same time felt that it could've been 3 different videos, each one covering their own topics and ideas in a greater depth.
the cleanest and greenest solution is geothermal, followed by nuclear. geothermal is too expensive in most places (we can drill deep enough to have geothermal everywhere its just far to expensive with current tech) leaveing nuclear as the best solution.
@@matthiuskoenig3378 How would nuclear work in a world such as this? Most of these bioregions wouldn't even have uranium deposits in the first place, so they'd have to resort to either trade, war, or just any other more readily available energy.
Politics is very important in what borders look like. We don't like how the government of this area is running things and they have too much support from people that don't live like us for us to make a change that benefits us. We're going to break off and run our area ourselves. It's how we got West Viginia and a lot of other states. Then there's these states with odd bumbs because the people of the area chose one state government over another. It's why Europe has so many countries with different customs and languages. Borders are about people and their decisions on who they want to be. Sometimes a geological feature is insurmountable and it forces a border but it's still people who decide that there is a border.
@@matthiuskoenig3378 And that people are natural entities too! I think sometimes in our ecocentrism, we forget that we are also part of nature, so our political and cultural endeavours are natural endeavours
Ye I don't know what happened there. US/Canada border is 8891 Kilometers long. Then she says if you were to summit it instead of walk it you would have 50 meters left and shows that Mt.Everest us 8849 METERS tall. Did she get confused between meters and kilometers? Is that a US not knowing metric system problem ? I mean a lot of work went into that animation so it was not simply missed.
It seems like it was just a brain fart on her part. You could damn near walk from the continental US to Mt. Everest if you were going the same length as the US-Canada border
@@stormxlr yeah, not to mention that I'll grant that confusing an "m" for a "km" is a minor and totally understandable mistake, especially if you're not used to metric -- but only for somebody who is bringing no prior knowledge to the discussion's context. Otherwise, it should mentally be a non-starter to compare a significant portion of the Earth's circumference (over 5,000 miles!) to the height of a mountain that is scaled by so many people every year that there is a single file line of climbers snaking its way up during every summer. One is near the limits of what a human can conceivably achieve with a sustained effort for a few days to weeks; the other is FAR outside of them. I subscribed because it's a new channel and I enjoy her style, so I have faith that there could be some good videos coming...but tbh I dunno if I can respect somebody who not only made that mistake as like a brain fart, but was fully convinced of it for long enough to script, produce and edit an accompanying animation for it -- and never came to realize the glaring error in all the time between finishing that and uploading the video -- on an intellectual level...
@@B2F1 even allowing for a brain fart to explain the initial confusion, it's just one of those things that should immediately sound ridiculous as soon as you say it out loud and start pursuing it. It would be like saying the Burj Khalifa reaches halfway to the moon or something, it's just a patently ludicrous claim on its face. And I don't really buy that it has to do with confusion stemming from the units -- whatever unit system you're using, you're *never* going to find the length of a land border expressed in the same units as the height of a mountain! The reason is that the typical scale of these quantities is literally _orders of magnitude_ apart, and this is something even most older children (much less adults in a professional context) should have an intuitive feel for, regardless of being unfamiliar with the particular details in a given case. In general, unless you have a REALLY abnormally short land border and you're comparing it to a REALLY abnormally tall mountain, there's no way these quantities are even going to be close...Mt. Everest as the tallest mountain on Earth is still
@@dancoroian1 This is how you know she didn't do the editing or the animation herself. She's probably paying one of those content farm companies which oversee lots of channels run by hot people with no skills or education who are trying to market themselves and get in on the pop-intellectual TH-cam niche. That's why the production style is so expensive and evocative of certain famous TH-camrs (some of whom have already been mentioned in the comments) even though it's a brand new channel. As a longtime lover of TH-cam, it's pretty gross if you ask me. Slick production doesn't turn an idiotic topic like "bioregionalism" into a video worth watching. You can polish a turd, but it's still a turd.
16:00 . This is a more contentious topic than you might think. Removing those hydroelectric dams will reduce significantly, the amount of renewable energy consumed in those states. In addition, it is widely understood that there is a large possibility that these efforts will not be enough to save salmon populations in the first place. Beyond this, I question the sentiment in projects like this. Urban societies are often vilified in favor of what we would call the idea of "untouched wilderness". What benefit to society does a thriving native salmon population pose, beyond an increased connection to nature. While I appreciate nature and spend a lot of times outdoors in the cascadia region which you define, I also recognize that the idea of Nature is an inherently human concept in the first place. These bioregions will continue to operate regardless of lines drawn on a political map.
It's mainly the fact that the dams are reaching the end of their life cycles. The engineers working on them are essentially nurses in an assisted living home, tending to them through their sunset years. The dams need to be taken down as it is, and governments don't find it to be worth the cost to rebuild. The amount of electricity isn't negligible even on a watershed as small as the Klamath, but considering the algae blooms and the destruction to Salmon populations we really won't be missing much. Growing up in Idaho, the Snake River dams have been a contentious issue for longer than I've been alive. And for good reason. Lewiston is a seaport in the mountains because of it. Entire economies and sections of the power grid depend on the Snake. There's much more to lose besides a few dams. But as those dams reach the end of their life cycle, I still find myself siding with environmentalists but that's beside the point. The point is, it's not a shipping highway. The electricity generated is a relative blip, especially when compared to the not only the US as whole, but even the entire PNW with its vast supply of hydroelectric. The economies centered around lake recreation will sadly be a casualty, but soon may give way to rafting tours and perhaps some of the best salmon fishing in the world. Sportsmen will pay insane amounts of money to participate. The Klamath dam situation appears to me more like the natural end of a life cycle than it does a complete breakdown of highly essential infrastructure that will plunge an entire chunk of the US back into the stone age haha.
@@wagonhound_official I go to college in Boise, so I am no stranger to the region. It is my opinion that the presence of the dams does more good for society than their absence would. Idaho is one of the few states in a position where they realistically could go all "green energy". Beyond that, it would cost over a billion to remove dams along the snake. Investments could instead be made to cement the dams as a path towards the future, rather than something holding us back. Your point is valid, there is something to be said for preserving nature. There are two sides to every coin though.
@@owenwillard5409 already existing absolutely, but take a backpack trip or better yet a rafting trip through the Frank Church Wilderness and tell me that we would have been better off developing all that. The salmon river is a national treasure. The Snake River isn't so cut and dry due to the level of infrastructure in place, but what I'm saying is the Klamath isn't supporting a mass number of livelihoods. Entire cities don't exist as they do today solely because of the Klamath river being dammed. Klamath Falls maybe, but they're not breaching the Klamath lake dam. Just the four downriver, in a largely undeveloped backwater. I'm very excited to see what comes of this in future studies.
This is a good video, but I think that the idea that the current nation-states should all be abolished, decentralized and reestablished based on "bioregions" is not only idealistic, but would also lead to a catastrophically unprecedented global-wide humanitarian, economic, social and political crisis. We can argue that borders are a human construct (which they absolutely are) but in our modern world, borders very frequently hold a significant influence over the lives of people. Many of these regions would basically be failed states due to the lack of access to basic resources like water, many of these regions wouldn't have been able to sustain the populations that they do without belonging to another nation-state with which they could exchange resources, food, water, etc. This would also create states hyper-dependent on very specific resources, while they would very hardly have access to other different resources, some of which could be crucial, like uranium for nuclear power plants. Many of these new bioregions would also, again, separate thousands of ethnic groups and communities all around the world for the sake of bioregionalism, while many others would be unwillingly lumped into the same state just because they share the same biome, like what would probably happen to Ireland under the UK. Even if the UK were to be "reformed", Irish people would hardly every support uniting with the UK in the name of bioregionalism, which is why I think the original premise of the video to be somewhat American-centric. How would be ensure that countries wouldn't invade each other over competition for resources? There are certainly important things to learn from bioregionalism, but I wish these would rather be implemented in the way of international cooperation and solidarity, specifically when it comes to policies regarding environmental issues, but not abolishing the modern nation-states just because. It is better to work and improve what we already have.
It's my first time on this channel and i really liked this topic and the way you trated it. Really good infirmation, explanation, and motivation by doing it (it really seemed you liked it!). Congrats and here's my subscription!
The US/Canada border is the least problematic straight line border in the world, its sparsely populated, and both countries have no disputes over it. Wanting to change it because "it looks ugly!" it not a valid reason.
@@j134679 no it doesn’t, there’s people who have formed national identities to either be Canadian or American; to carve that up because you feel it would be “neater” is ridiculous, I’m one of the people living in the Cascadia region and I think this is a ridiculous idea only touted by those who don’t understand how either country works.
You sound pretty confident and the editing is pretty well done! You have very little videos posted, but I'll guess you already have lot of experience as a content creator, that's pretty nice. Would be cool if you could talk about permaculture someday on your next videos, that's like, the life style of my dreams, but all is so cramped here on the cities. También voy a felicitarte en español porque me da ilusión jajsd, sigue asi!!
I live in British Columbia and it was interesting hearing someone on the other side of the world talk about my backyard, its peculiar quirks like point Roberts, and the recent environmental disasters I was in the thick of: flooding in Sumas and forest fires in the South Okanagan. The floods in Sumas are a great example of how an infrastructure failure on one side of a political border impacted us on the other. Most people in British Columbia do not wish to secede from Canada, and most Oregonians and Washingtonians probably don't want to either unless maybe they live in Seattle or Portland. Quite frankly as a Canadian it'll be a cold day in hell before I leave Canada to live with Americans. Maybe that's all part of it, one's identity is more than their local region. Also, tbh the last people I'd want managing my provinces/cascadia's economy are proponents of an autonomous Cascadia. Like the one fellow who advocated moving away from an "extractive economy." I'm sorry but mining, logging, and fishing are the backbone of this province and are the whole reason it exists at all. Yes, we should manage it to make it as sustainable and renewable as possible, and yes it's good to diversify our economy as well.. but if we were to secede and unite into one big Cascadia, we'd only be viable as a nation if we relied on hydro-electric dams for electricity, and logging, fishing, farming, and mining for our economy. Especially logging and mining.
When you’re an agent of the Spanish Crown who’s reeeeeally committed to getting Gibraltar back.
😂😂😂😂
Until you realize that's a 50/50 split between Spain and Morocco.
You changed Gibraltar and Menorca by Catalonia with the british.
Then, fuck you.
If you want Gibraltar back, leave Catalonia free, bastards
Ceuta and Melilla…
They never was moroccan@@horatiohuskisson5471
Didn’t realise this was a video from a small channel: This is very informative and well done!
Thank you!!
What channel is it on
Topham. Respect.
Right? It's great!
Didn't realise until you pointed it out, dayum..
Your accent manages to sound like it's from South Africa, Australia, Mexico, Woolwich all at the same time and it tickles my brain, cheers!
lol
haha, i was thinkin bout that too, i like it, im australian and mexican, two of the countries you said, lol, but whats woolwich, i only know woolworths, me confundo
@@UnseenFootage Woolwich is a suburb/town whatever you want to call it in London
I feel like she could portray Lara Croft! Not just bc shes pretty but the history/archaeology vibes.
I hear a Spanish accent, taught British English.
As someone from Chile 🇨🇱, people from other countries always get a little confused on why my country is really long and skinny, and it’s truly because we are a long hallway between the Pacific Ocean and the Andes, so when the Spanish Army founded the “Capitanía General de Chile” colony located in what’s modern day the capital Santiago, there wasn’t other option for expanding other than north or south 😅.
So in some cases natural borders are just inevitable. Great video btw! I love finding new interesting channels 🙌🏼
Somewhat similar for Norway, though it extended further east and south in the past, before Sweden ate up parts of it.
Not a colony, though. Como tú dijiste, una Capitanía General
It was so interesting to hear about Cascadia. While the people from East Tennessee identify themselves as Tennessean, me and a lot of other people from the area more identify as Appalachian (specifically Southern Appalachian). And I feel much more in common with Eastern Georgia, Western N. Carolina, Eastern Kentucky, Western Virginia and West Virginia than I do with the Tennessee Plateau or Mississippi River basin on our Western Border (a 7 and a half hour drive from where my Dad was born). And when I think about the culture of my region I think of the isolation of the mountains, a respect for nature, the history of coal mine exploitation. The conflict of the Creek and Cherokee, the relationship of the settlers with the Cherokee, the displacement of the Cherokee in the SE and the Eastern Band. Rugged individualism, a propensity to stay put. Inventiveness, folk music. I've even gotten in arguments with people who tried to describe me as Southern instead of Mountain. I wish there were more avenues for connection between the people of these regions. Reddit/Appalachia is pretty cool. People will bring up something from their area (like, when I was a kid, we would stand in the graveyard before dawn and sing to the rising sun) and see which other areas of Appalachia have the same tradition. Interesting video.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience
yeah people, especially americans, are very 'border' brained. our understanding of culture related to political vs physical boundaries is limited. and part of this is by design from colonization
Why do people accept borders in the first place? A fence works both ways, and these are just fences for humans.
On the day we are born, we are immediately subjugated by force to an entity we have never met, and likely never will. And would deny this happens many many years before the age of consent. Yes, it is that word that starts with the letter "R." Except it lasts a lifetime and is done to everyone. This is the exact opposite of Freedom.
@@Matty002 : Border-brained, accepting of being enslaved.
Same thing.
Btw, I was born in the U.S. but I am not an American, I am an Earthling. ❤🌍🌎🌏🌐
@@Claudia-Ayuso so you're applying to live in another country while simultaneously trying to dismantle it. You're an embarrassment. Consider self-reflection. PS: The UK is a geographically mapped out country already, it's literally an island.
I live in Czechia (middle Europe) and one thing that I love about it is that you can see it on every borderless map. It is just almost completely surounded with mountains and I think that's how borders should look like.
so then let hungary have his 1000 year borders back lol
@nemtweakelek so true
Somebody forgot about southern CZ border. So southern border sould be what? Donau (Danube)?
@@kolomaznik333 well, it used to be. the area between Drava and Danube rivers (northern serbia and northern croatia) is mostly Hungarian populated too, so those two could be a better southern border. but for the northern borders, a natural Danube border wouldn't make sense, as it now separates a city that was also mostly Hungarian populated, so natural borders don't always work, i guess.
Natural borders exist. A countries borders only exist in the imagination of those who seek to oppress the masses, and those who don't understand that all of their Freedom was stolen away from them on the day they were born.
On the contrary!
A nation should ideally include more than one bioregion.
Because different bioregions means different resources.
That prevents nations from being dependent on resource importation.
sure unless it was an EU like total open boarders within the continent situation
The whole video seems to be about creating economies that don't depend on moving resources around, but instead on using local resources as much as possible. An industrial economy like we're used to probably isn't possible in that kind of world, since so much industrial production depends on bringing distant resources together.
Exactly, it would lead to "countries" where there is only desert bioregion, which is completely insane that you think anyone would live there. And if noone lives within those borders, it can't be a country
Yes the whole premise of the video is insane. Political borders are meaningful. Just asked Ukraine. Just ask the country Georgia. Ask the Palestinians. Assuming that we can divide up land based on on the features of nature is asking for wars. The way we divided up the land in the 19th century and 20th century to create the borders that we have today was another form of insanity but now that we have them it is a terrible idea to even think of changing them. We just have to live with what we have.
Where does this revisionist perfectionist concept of redefining boundaries come from? Given that it would create so much bloodshed, it seemed like an elitist idea to perfect the world.
@@joythought I agree, although at the time the borders were drawn, there weren't much political differences between the lands north and south of the 49th parallel. Now that the populations have been divided for 200+ years, there are.
Wow! Excellent presentation of bioregionalism! Well done Claudia! Well done Brandon as well.
by the way I am the designer of the Cascadian bioregional flag that popped up a couple of times.
So cool!
how do you feel that lesotho nabbed your sick design 😂
Dude you literally put a tree on a blue, white, and green tricolor. That flag could literally just as well apply to Siberia, or Michigan, or Finland. Try and throw in some Cascadian culture and history. Maybe reference your split between the US and Canada, or include a symbol from one of your indigenous tribes, and didn't you guys fight a war over a pig in the San Juan isles, maybe put a pig on your flag.
I have your flag hanging up in my bedroom :D
the more i watch this video the more it sounds like its promoting a cascadian independance movement
Same bro
hail the Empire of Cascadia
for cascadia!
As someone who definitely lives in the southern end of the Cascades hundreds of miles south of her ideal border, I do not give my consent. Indeed I was forced into becoming an American on the day I was born, as were all "Americans." It's not just indigenous peoples who suffer this subjugation, but as a white person I have to say we are less oppressed being of the majority/most powerful. _Power corrupts, and ultimate power corrupts ultimately._
@@aylbdrmadison1051 You don't suffer oppression, colonizer.
maybe i missed the part of the video where she says “let’s make nations off bioregions” but i’m so confused why everyone thinks she’s arguing that. she’s just talking about the idea of bio regions and how it’d be cool and nice, not telling people to make them or whether or not it’s feasible. it was super interesting! it’s a concept that i’d never heard of before but makes so much sense!
Exactly. When she speaking with indigenous tribes, that’s when she acknowledges the set backs of the idea, and when it doesn’t meet the needs of people living on the ground.
Bocchi the Rock pfp detected. Opinion respected.
Yeah, the videos I find to contain the most informational/educational value are the ones, that draw you in with their premise, and whether or not they deliver on it, use it as na excuse to tell an interesting story and show you a new perspective of looking at the subject at hand and world around us in general, just like this one.
While I disagree with the entire concept of forcefully dividing people with borders, be they natural or imaginary (as in a countries borders), I agree that people need to not assume her intentions, and instead listen to what she said.
But then, what is the point? That's my question. This division only serves the interests of the Wealthy Elite who demand we are complicit from the day we're born. No age of consent even considered.
She uses racist arguments and uses the S#cide rates of people to make a point.
Title: “Rearranging the World's Borders According to Nature”
Video: “US and Canadian borders, especially Cascadia”
I mean, in Eurasia most borders are "natural" it's mostly the old colonies that have horribly bad borders
@@jubmelahtes thats only in Africa. unironically only nationalists want to change current world borders oin the Americas, the only exemption being the US-Canadian border that some people make videos like this, or border towns threatening to join the other country if the state/province doesn't give them money to make roads and bridges lol
@@jubmelahtes It would be interesting to take a look at other places though, even Europe, just to trace what borders are natural and which are not, because these also tell a story
@@jubmelahtes Romania, Ireland/NI, Ukrainian Ruthenia, the near east, just a couple of examples of unnatural Eurasian borders but yea by and large African, South and North American borders are more unnatural. A lot of the provincial borders in Canada are based on watersheds and thus are pretty natural, even if our border with the US isn't
Yeah I was expecting her to cover Africa's borders as well, since its borders are incredibly unnatural and were drawn up by the Europeans during decolonisation and not the natives.
I've tried mapping new borders for the world using rivers and mountains as guidelines, so this also puts joy in my heart.
What factors did you consider? Have you shared it somewhere on internet?
@@kepspark3362 I just took the existing countries (I also split the US and UK into their respective states/countries since they have their own borders) and remapped them according to rivers and mountains. It was a just a little thing I tried doing for myself so I haven't shared it anywhere.
Finding a free, large topological world map proved to be a little hard from what I can remember, but I did find a grayscale version, so I used it.
Why impose these imaginary borders in the first place? They only benefit the Wealthy Elite by making the rest of us mere cattle to do their bidding.
Borders are nothing more than fences for humans. Rivers, mountains etc, are merely obstacles, not borders.
@@DaWorldGuardian001I’ve done similar things based largely on drainage basins and biomes. It was encouraging to see this video and also know I’m not alone in that hobby.
South Americas borders somewhat follows these principles. Brazil's borders are almost completely defined by bioregions. Brazil includes pretty much the whole of the Atlantic rainforest, Cerrado, pantanal, and Caatinga biomes. And includes large parts of the Amazon, the borders being drawn in the Guyana Plateau and the Andes. it also goes into the states as well, with borders being drawn in plateaus, mountains and rivers
Argentina and Chile being separated by the Andes feels like one of the best examples
@@_black_bird EXACTLY
@@_black_bird I truly thought she was gonna mention it
I thought the same thing.
Another great example is the Amazon rainforest and how people are just free to cross from one country of the other as citizens of the forest.
The anglo-americans went mostly for imaginary borders to organize their territories while latin-americans had bioregions in mind way before their northern neighbors to do the same job. I don't get where this woman came up with the idea that bioregions are an innovative idea when Latin America and Europe are right next to the US and Canada.
This is a topic I've been considering for a long time. A few other things to think about:
1. The Brazilian government has the right to cut down their rain forest. But this would impact the entire world. Conversely, the almost all of North & South America was once covered in a rain forest, of which the Brazilian rain forest is all that is left. If the other countries decided to invest in massive re-forestation, that could also benefit the entire world.
The impact of bio-systems is well beyond themselves and borders shouldn't matter. We need economic models to compensate countries with higher forest cover, to encourage investment in systems that can benefit other nations.
2. A natural border (mountains, seas, rivers, etc) are natural defence systems. Forming nations around these means you don't have to invest as much in your nations defence and can focus on other, more productive, activity.
3. Most of our future conflict will be for water. This has already happened in several regions. Distribution of, maintenance and replinishing water resources will have to be the basis of any nation building.
Brazil has no right to do that - their land, our choice.
As a French Canadian and Native American who lived in South America, I really enjoyed your video. I am so happy that someone else talks about this topic!!Thank you😘
Its crazy that "you should consider your natural surroundings when building" is something that we actually need to be reminded of
Uh... live in the real world. No one cares so it doesn't matter if they "should."
Just a little point: The indigenous people still live around there and many still speak Coast Salish languages-Halkomelem, Lushootseed, and several others. I've read that there are even bilingual road signs in some places.
I am an indigenous person from Vancouver, Canada and spent a lot of time growing up in Point Robert’s! There’s actually no hospital in the town and they have to go through Canada and back to Washington through care and it prevents people from getting help in a timely manner.
Oregon Country, as it was defined in 1818, is almost the same as Cascadia. They are bringing back something that was defined 200 years ago.
As a Balkan I have one thing to say YOU WANT TO CREATE EVEN MORE CHAOS IN HERE!!!! ISNT THERE ENOUGHT CHAOS IN THE BALKANS???
What do you have against the Dinaric Balkan Battle Royale Region and the Aegean and East Med Greco-Turco-Arabo-Jewish Friendship Region.
@@saggi201 her balkan borders are chaotic and wont work because there would be a third balkan war in no more than 2-10 years
I’m guessing people 20-30 thousand years ago knew where the borders were. It was, if you go past that river, or over that hill, you will get killed or captured by the neighboring group.
It's actually because when you don't have cars and trains to move, crossing a large river or mountains is stenuous.
Thus, it kept people somewhat isolated from each other which then developped different cultures and languages
Large rivers and mountains are also a natural wall that protects you from invasions to some extent
This is also why the nations that were built in large plains were regularly invaded by empires one after the other
What a cool idea from a priviledged post war perspective. And once a bioregion has completely aligned it's internal perspective, the most productive bioregions can push their will on the less productive ones ignoring the perspective of the less productive regions. Bio-regions often get split because two groups both want access to the same benefits.
We have to excuse her lack imagination. Fortunately she doesn't rule the world because it would burn after bathing in blood.
but does she really talk about the complete independence of the bioregion? Well, the same Cascadia could be completely part of the USA. With access to the US infrastructure and all that. I don't see any problems. Especially since Canada is not a real country)
@@madnessage Since when the f**k was Canada not a real country. It's the 2nd biggest country by landmass, has the world's largest reserves of freshwater and 3rd largest oil reserves. My province produces the most Uranium and potash in the whole world. If you want BC and parts of Alberta, you gotta pay for every sq km. Google whats a km if you don't know. If you are talking about defense, I am pretty sure the whole NATO, Russia, China and other world power has something to say about USA annexing Canada.
You are acting like states imposing their will on other states is something that doesn’t already exist. Same with regions splitting in civil war. As if these things don’t already happen
I'd love to see a video where you rearrange the entire map according to nature with the information you have so far!
I'd love to see a world without the imaginary borders imposed on humanity by the Wealthy Elite for their personal profit/power. I was born in a "country," and therefore immediately subjugated to whims of the Wealthy Elite who thousands of years have divided humanity with bigoted ideals like nationalism, classism, and racism all for their own personal profit/power. I did not consent to being an American on day one! I am an Earthling.❤🌍🌎🌏🌐
0:26 1.4 million just isn't a lot, whatsoever. Like an atom sized drop in the entire earth's oceans compared to what both countries spend on military and social services.
it's still for a really dumb purpose. not to mention, clearing out the trees actually separates these natural habitats physically and can negatively impact the movement of native species, leading to genetic separation and more vulnerable populations.
but ofc, there are definitely worse injustices if we're shifting focus to look at politics in general and away from conservationism in particular.
It may not be a lot on world scale, its a lot to waste on such a dumb thing.
Ok? It's still a stupid thing to spend an annual million dollars on.
Maybe people need to step back and see what countries and their borders actually are.
Borders are just fences for humans. Countries are just the consolidated profit.power of the Wealthy Elite to subjugate those born on the part of the planet they are their predecessors imposed on humanity by force.
@@onelusciouslad7841 : Why? I'm not saying you don't have a good answer, just saying if you do have one, that means something. Just saying x,y, or z is bad, is not saying anything. That's just expressing distaste for some undisclosed reason. And for all we know, you have a great reason, but from this vantage point, it seems just as likely you don't have any reason at all. I'm certain you can do much better. 🙂
"people who don't live in a place drawing borders on a map at some table far away causes chaos"
*proceeds to draw borders on a map at some table far away*
I think it's great to have concern for the environment and for people who live in it, but even with those in mind, prescribing new borders from the outside without the input of residents is not a good idea. it's clear this is more of a thought exercise, but one has to be careful about this kind of thing; it comes with a lot of nasty colonialist/imperialist baggage.
glorifying the "natural" can also be iffy. natural disasters are also natural! nature does not have a will that aligns directly with human needs! we ought to build human constructs (like borders) for human purposes. we should take nature into account! we all owe a duty of stewardship to the land. but nature won't be stopped by borders; it doesn't care where we put them. WE care. current borders are not great, but we can't say imposing new ones would be amazing without a LOT of consideration. If we're radically rearranging borders, we should rethink our base assumptions about what borders are for and to what extent we need them at all.
also, one of the interviewees here sort of implied that nomadic peoples didn't/don't fight each other over territory. i don't know much about prehistory, but in the last few thousand years at least, this is straight-up false... then again, we are talking about prehistory. I am not a historian and may be wrong, but my instinct is that no paradise with human populations well below the carrying capacity of the land ever existed for very many generations after humans reached a place. low population density probably reflected available huntable/forageable resources. agriculture just would have increased that carrying capacity. would be interested to hear a different perspective!
pre-historic nomads 100% fought each other, we have the evidence for it.
infact the biggest genocide in history (relative to population sizes) was the 'indo-european' nomad's migration into northern europe in pre-historic times. they also invaded southern europe but the demographic replacement wasn't as severe.
Maybe you missed it - but the idea of Cascadia and bioregional mapping emerged from this area, especially in the 1970's and 1980's, and then through a series of Cascadia Bioregional Congresses. Bioregional mapping, from Chilcotin, Nis'gaa, Wetsuweten in the 1980's. She was just helping outline the natural boundaries as a visual aid.
@@matthiuskoenig3378 very interesting! thanks for sharing!
@@BrandonLetsinger I feel like the video, for being about 'redrawing borders,' didn't seriously enough consider the political implications of such a radical act (for example, who would be imposing these borders & what it would mean for residents). But I did miss that part while thinking about other things. That's good to know. Thanks :)
@@soupo-sandwichyeah as someone in the region these are all real concerns of many proponents of the movement. For many the cascadia movement isn't about redrawing the borders along natural lines but more about trying to promote regional interconnectedness and self sufficiency in spite of the existing borders.
Umm so less than 30 seconds into the video I'm convinced this channel is the lovechild of Johnny Harris and Cleo Abram from their time at Vox. Brava Claudia 👏👏👏 Immediately subscribed!
Give me one sec to recover from this comment… That is the greatest compliment in the world to me🥹 thank you and welcome!
didn't realize it, but yeah, she does have both a Johnny Harris and a Cleo Abram vibe.
Ew, Johnny Harris has been caught straight up lying, fabricating data, using propaganda, accepting bribes from the World Economic Forum to push certain agendas instead of facts.....please do not turn into a Johnny Harris. He is as unethical as they come.
I was coming here to comment just that. Looks like a video by Johnny Harris, content, style of presentation, even editing, cutting to her motion of sitting down on floor, etc.
very influenced I’d say, but still her own flair. Great video
Ewww CIA Johnny Harris
As someone from cascadia whos always been a strong proponent of this movement it's great seeing people from other parts of the world talking about it.
Such a mental shift from the rigid borders we draw on maps. Love this
and everything than stems from them, so fascinating
Hate this it’s stupid
Bioregionalism is idiotic if you genuinely know anything about politics. It will lead to areas like the Great Plains and Appalachia being cut off from the economic frameworks that keep them alive and functioning. Infrastructure needs to be taken into account, and any region that cannot sustain itself will fall apart completely. Furthermore, you would be cutting apart communities of united people that don't even want independence.
As a Washingtonian, I truly appreciate someone exploring our region of the country as well as discussing that the native peoples of this land truly understand what the land means to all life.
This video is so well done! Wish you the best and hope you'll have a great YT career! :)
thank you so much!
First learned about bioregionalism on Instagram a few years back, and was confused why almost no one (outside of select Native American orgs) was talking about it. So glad to see this video pop up in my YT feed.
0:09 That's not true this also operates as a firebreak which is very important for maintaining forests.
A 6m gap is not going to do anything to a blazing bushfire.
@@joetibbles1688true. And even if it did serve as a firebreak that doesn’t mean it’s anything more than arbitrary. Canada or the USA could make any number of firebreaks anywhere.
Your excitement is so contagious!! Now I'm subscribed and waiting for the next episode on this series. Amazing work and research
One struggle with remapping, though. Is we can't just forget history happened. Whenever a border disappears politically, the histories and cultures of the area happened there and will be in conflict.
You need to be careful relying too heavily on bioregions to inform politics.
On the Australian continent there are seven defined bioregions, but only one (East Australian Temperate Forests & Mountain Shrublands (AU3)) encompasses the vast majority of the entire continent’s wealth and population. Our current political divisions splits this economic dominance amongst four states, with no one able to assert itself upon the others.
While there may be other arguments for bioregionalism, Cascadia is a singular phenomenon, both in terms of ecological sustainability and political self-interest. Cascadia is not a model for universal bioregionalism, and should not be touted as the example.
Although I see the borders of countries as human-cattle ranches, I agree with you.
If we're going to have countries, we should still seek to free ourselves from the Wealthy Elite who impose this tyranny on humanity for their personal profit/power.
Yep, technically the entire area from moscow to the netherlands (including ukraine) are a single bioregion, the european plains. I don't think anyone thinks it would be a good idea to lay all of that area under the control of one government.
Very interesting for sure, but I can’t help feel this is very idealistic. I mean you’re talking about creating new countries and carving out old ones. In the event we are all united under one flag that represents earth. This seems more realistic kind of, but even in the cascade bio region, there are 15 different cultures all just in the Frazier valley. In most instances (drawn on borders in a room) don’t make much sense, but you’re arguing for the creation of entirely new countries to solve ecological problems that also require some sort of organization and funding. How would you define these regions allegiances? What other countries are you creating? Are there identities that these people would be opposed to identifying as? Not trying to put you down or be rude or anything, but this feels like a geologists solution to an ecologists problem by spitting on the face of anthropologists.
Thank you so much for covering this. As a resident of the Southern Oregon Coast, I’ve always thought a lot about how much more sense it would make to organize boundaries according to watershed. Maybe we’ll have a chance to someday.
I'm gonna be honest, looking at the map from 17:30, the Sheer amount of Genocides that would come from Dividing Africa according to it's ecological bioregions would be WILD. Like it'd be a Genocide Battle Royale looking at those subdivisions. I'm saying this as a South African, most of the Borders in Central, Western and Eastern Africa already BARELY work because of how many ethnicities are grouped together into singular states, if you implement the borders from bioregions, it will get SOOOOO much Worse. Like, unironically exponentially worse
Yeah, you have to consider your heaviest influences. They nail the first heavy hitter. Water can and will often win, and we spend a LOT across the planet fighting it just to manage a handful of reservoirs for irrigation, rationing, and power purposes. The second heavy hitter is easily the humans. Humans form groups over all sorts of things, and while one region has a group that's formed up over ecologically driven concerns that happen to reach clearly across a number of other borders, the vast majority of the world operates at vastly different levels from that, whether you're looking at North America and Europe, where logistics has pretty well overcame the vast majority of geological barriers, or Africa, where there's a great deal less time and resources easily available to leave someone the ability to focus on the ecological, natural, boundaries when they're busy literally fighting for their lives over the areas the subset of the population they happen to identify with can exert control over, both in the hopes of ending the fighting from others, and simply controlling enough resources to get by. Some "natural" borders apply by happenstance because of their strategic and tactical value, though, so it has that going for it. Group A isn't going to just ignore the atrocities group B's committed against them because a "nature" defined border that makes sense ecologically happens to encompass both as a singular "region".
I’m surprised you didn’t mention the relation of bioregions to common climate, common geography, common farming methods, common water resources, and common infrastructure.
0:50 Ye I don't know what happened there. US/Canada border is 8891 Kilometers long. Then she says if you were to summit it instead of walk it you would have 50 meters left and shows that Mt.Everest us 8849 METERS tall. Did she get confused between meters and kilometers? Is that a US not knowing metric system problem ? I mean a lot of work went into that animation so it was not simply missed.
Thank you for flagging this!! We'll be more careful next time and address it now
The US not knowing about the metric system?
Are you serious? Do you actually not understand the foundational misunderstanding of that incorrect viewpoint? Do you just blindly accept things "the crowd" says without actually asking yourself if its true or not?
If you don't understand it and can't take a few minutes and think about it yourself.....I can explain it to you.
I don't mean to attack you in any way..... its just that it amazes me how common this incorrect belief is. I think it must come from people blindly believing things if enough people repeat them and not having the curiosity to think about it themselves.
@@chandie5298 It was a joke you silly goose. Dont get your knickers in a twist. The video creator made a mistake between meters and kilometers and went all the way out to make an animation saying that the us canada border is the same as Everest.
@@stormxlr I'm happy to hear that it was a joke. You'd be amazed at the number of otherwise intelligent people who actually believe that people in the US don't know about the metric system and do not commonly use it (of course, we do).
Yes... my knicker's were in a bit of a twist, admittedly.......because that very obvious false claim is so commonly made.....especially in forums such as this.
It gets aggravating after a while.......just as claims about the British all having bad teeth (they do not) and the French rarely ever bathing (they do frequently).
Yes....she gets points for putting in the effort to correct that mistake.......doesn't quite excuse the video whose viewpoint is something one would expect from an elementary school child who has exactly zero understanding of the history of humanity and human nature (which incidentally applies to every group of mammals that exists now or has ever existed; the difference being that most animals are limited by their environment whereas humans have advanced to the point that we control the environment.....actually, other animals also control their environment to a large extent....those damned beavers).....but yes, I applaud her efforts in fixing the point you brought up.
This is the first of your videos I've found. Such an interesting topic. Well researched and informative.
Also congratulations on your citizenship. I live in Berkshire and it's very encouraging that young energetic minds are still contributing to our communities (and the world) regardless of where they originate from.
"Borders are a scar on the face of the planet" - Yanis Varoufakis
Bioregionalism is a step toward a future where we are just humans living in our communities and free to travel this beautiful planet we call home in these blips of time we call a life.
Scars are but wounds long-healed. Borders are there to protect distinct human groups in their uniqueness. Not that a "Globanite" like you would understand.
@@Oera-B globanite? 😂 you don’t need borders to have a group of individuals share their own cultures and beliefs. Borders aren’t anything more than made up lines those in power fight over sending the poor to die. Ukraine and Gaza now are suffering from simply having a border. That what it boils down to.
Bioregionalism is idiotic if you genuinely know anything about politics. It will lead to areas like the Great Plains and the Deep South being cut off from the economic frameworks that keep them alive and functioning. Infrastructure needs to be taken into account, and any region that cannot sustain itself will fall apart completely.
free travel is bad idea. borders exist for a reason.
before the EU sex trafficking was largely erradicated in western europe and close to it in europe in general, but the ability to move people across borders made it so much easier for the criminals to avoid getting caught and so it sky rocketed. the same goes for european drug market.
not everyone is a responsible steward who can be trusted with the priviledge of roaming.
Only 30K subs? The editing and research are outstanding! You got my sub!
I love this sooo much!!!!!! I’m a farmer in western North Dakota and have been working on regenerative agriculture but still looking at grids… this makes so much sense even for small environments as well!!!!!!
te sigo desde tu canal anterior y toparme con estos vídeos de tanta calidad es simplemente increíble. Muy interesante todoo
Just looking at the brief glimpse we were given at 17:33 of what I'm assuming is potential world borders based on biomes, just the tip of Florida is a part of the country of the Caribbeans. Felt silly and unrealistic. I feel that larger regions make sense to section off to like minded biomes, but there should be a respect of natural borders and an understanding that humanity isn't just their biomes, humanity is their culture. If the Texans of dry deserts feel the same way about things as the Texans of piney wetlands 9 hours away, then it makes sense for them to be under the same governing. Love the video, very fun topic and good job making good content as such a small channel!
I think it goes beyond human culture and beyond the duality of humans independent from nature. It may seem silly and unrealistic if the mindset of the majority of humans doesn't expand beyond the limits of culture, which is man-made and in service for humans only. But at the same time, it is realistic and serious to consider that majority of humans today aren't ready to surrender back to the systems of nature and go redraw borders based on biomes and what nature says.
It takes a lot of paradigm shifts and metaphysical understanding of the world for humans to transcend to this higher levels of thinking, which will redefine their mindset and purpose within the earth. Humans in general still have a lot of ego, which influences a lot of the politics and territory we have today. Due to this, humans still need some more time to evolve as a species where our thinking goes beyond paradigms of tribalism, fundamentalism, pragmatism and materialism, paradigm of science and technology, paradigm of cultures, environmentalism, and so on. It's an integration of all of these mindsets while honing a systematic thinking that everything is interconnected and one.
Humans today in general, at least most of the developed west, still view this transcended mindset as woo woo and new age-y, without realising that this is the necessary path of human evolution for the future. It's letting go of a lot of what human collectives everywhere define themselves in order to see the bigger picture of reality beyond their culture. I mean, people are now learning a lot about different cultures, and some of them are adopting and embodying cultural ways alien to them whenever it resonates.
Although, there are several countries and states/regions today that do follow more closely to this biomistic approach of creating territory regardless of current human developement and present culture. I guess they have theirs going on lucky.
doesn't have to be countries, could be states/provinces
The Arawak language in the Caribbean was also spoken in southern Florida, so these bioregions made sense for people for over a thousand years. Also Texas is extremely politically split, are you kidding me?
the production quality of this video is like came out of a channel with over 1M subs, what a great quality and delivery, I believe soon this channel will reach over 100k
This is marvelous stuff and a topic that I've personally sort of worked on for many years.
Omg thank you so much for your content ! I just discovered your channel and I'm in love! As said by someone else in the comments (the fat controller I think) I also didn't realize that you don't have millions of subs until I saw their comment lol
I have been getting really disenchanted with geography videos on youtube lately but this one had me just as exited to learn as I used to be at 14 just getting into geography content on youtube. Throughout university I have dealt with these concepts around bioregions, ecological governance, and indigenous soverighnty a lot, so It is really refressing to see them on youtube in a very polished and apporachable lense. Keep up the good work and definently earned a sub.
This made my day! So happy to have you here 💗
specifically, this geography video (and channel) seems to have a more activist / progressive mindset. it's a bit like mossy earth and planet wild, with a focus on rational conservationism.
The quality of this work is superb, congrats to all involved ^^
I've long thought that shared jurisdictions would be the next step given the world of nation-states we have now.
These would be places where there is a unified government that handles some of the affairs of the region, with various agreements between two (or more) national governments on how to deal with resources, security, citizenships, policy, and more.
Cascadia would be a good place for one such region, though it would be a lot of work to make such a place work.
This. A shared overlaying government could take into account ecological and environmental stewardship... but removing most political boundaries is not necessarily a great idea. For example, in "Cascadia," the city of Portland and most of its suburbs have a shared regional government, Metro, that includes three counties and plans interlocking transit routes, waste disposal, etc.
Absolutely acknowledge shared ecological concerns with joint regulation...but don't prioritize removing established borders, whether created for poor reasons or not, because in the here and now they (generally) serve purposes and populations have built their life choices around the stability of them.
omg this was such an amazing video!! the storytelling, editing and information all so so good!! cant wait for more in the future :D
Glad you liked it!! Thank you!!! So happy to have you here
This is great TH-cam content. I'm subscribing.
Fantastic! The sweet vibes are infectious, and I love thinking about this! Subscribed and excited for more.
The idea of removing dams and returning riparian areas to their natural habitat feels great but these dams were built there for legitimate reasons. Aside from flood control these dams were built for electricity. In a world where we are trying to reduce our carbon footprint and move away from internal combustion engines in favor of electric vehicles, how are we going to replace the electricity lost by the destruction of these dams? This area is totally unsuitable for things like wind or solar so the answer is probably going to be natural gas or some other kind of carbon producing fuel. We are now going to need to spend hundreds of billions of dollars creating new power sources and all of that cost is going to be transferred to the consumer. Ultimately I'm not sure that the removal of these dams is a win for anybody's environmental vision.
Great video. Good luck.
Some dams re good, but too many will destroy nature and society. For example china plans to dam many rivers in the himalayas, it will cause drought in myanmar, india, and bangladesh. Another example is ethiopia, they will literally start a war with egypt and sudan because of new nile dam.
It's a win for the Yurok people. The affected parties (including PacifiCorp, the for-profit electric utility*) have agreed to the removals. One of the dams has already been removed. This plan is going forward.
* The sticking point was that PacifiCorp wanted to pass the removal costs onto US taxpayers.
Nuclear powerplant
Often they weren't. If you do research, many of the dams, such as the Elwah, or current Deschutes Dam removals were either built illegally, have long since stopped providing power - or in the case of the Deschutes, was simply built to provide the Washington capitol with a reflection pool under the state capitol. It will now cost hundreds of millions do undo even that one basic example.
Great subject. And it makes me emotional too as when I was a child I used to draw maps of fantasy worlds and even move borders according to river basins. I still love geography. Thanks for your informative video. ☺️
Problem is nothing binds people within these bio regions but them living in the region ... Linguistic differences ethnic differemces and cultural diffetences would come in the way and cause civil unrest ...
Sorry for the LONG ass comment. Feel free to just skim or ignore, as it's really just a collection of my thoughts on the topic.
I hate to break it to you, but there's already lots of civil unrest in the US and the world. All over the world, national borders drawn with barely a nod to native populations are much more apt to cause unrest than borders that consider SOMETHING. In many cases, improving borders by considering bioregional stewardship could only create stronger communities. Of course, bioregions are more than certainly not the only thing to consider when it comes to border revision, hypothetical or otherwise.
I think it’s clear that this video tends more towards “food for thought” than “Dr. Ayuso’s Border Cure Prescription”. It’s an exploration of bioregions- full stop. It’d be nigh impossible to fully explain a complete worldwide or even national border revision considering every factor ever, and I think the concept of doing that seriously without having meaningful and extensive discussion with many, many local populations is ludicrous. To go through the process would take years, decades even, and to explain it all to the public would take more than a youtube video, even two or three.
That hasn’t stopped some from trying, though! While it’s limited in scope (it considers exclusively land which is already currently considered part of the US) and certainly isn’t perfect, there’s a pair of videos on a channel called “Monsieur Z” on an idea called The Balkanization Proclamation, a title which I believe to be an ode to the culturally-driven breakup of Yugoslavia into the set of Balkan nation-states which we have today. (To Balkan folks, I’m sorry for oversimplifying your history like that, but this comment is already way too long. I encourage folks who don’t already know about the Balkan region and the breakup of Yugoslavia to look into that. It’s not only very interesting, it’s important history!) The first installment Monsieur Z’s two-parter is titled “What If Every State In America Had Natural Borders? | American Politics”, and if you’re into these sorts of things, you should definitely watch it. From the description: “The state borders of the United States are arbitrary, and need to be redrawn. Monsieur Z redraws the borders of the U.S states by accounting for culture, geography, history, economics, religion, politics, and more.” To me, it’s a fun exploration of how these factors could be considered when reimagining borders.
But as it stands, current US borders are, unfortunately, a bunch of straight lines. (There was this excellent show called “How The States Got Their Shapes”, which, as the name implies, dives into how these lines were drawn. It's incredibly interesting!) And while the idea of a prescribed border revision from one party (like that put forward in the Monsieur Z videos) goes against what I already said about the necessity of involving locals in border discussion and really letting folks decide what’s best for them, something as well researched as the videos from Z and his accomplices would definitely be an improvement over the current lots-of-straight-lines system (though, again, locals would need to be heavily involved in the discussion before the revision could be prescribed).
Right, back to your point- I disagree that nothing connects the people within bioregions. Bioregional borders could allow for a deeper connection to the land's original stewards, the Indigenous peoples who managed these ecosystems for millennia before other folks came along and drew borders all over them. The common goal of protecting a local biosphere is certainly nothing to sneeze at, either.
Honestly, I think it’s silly that any individual group should need their own land. With empathy, I think it’s important for previously divided groups to work together to grow stronger, more connected communities. In many cases, this will require some often difficult acknowledgements of the past- colonization, enslavement, and genocide are certainly not topics to gloss over or pretend to forget- but over time, I think communities that work hard can be stronger as diverse teams.
Conclusively, bioregions are a starting point, not a sole consideration. They should be taken into account because of their potential to foster a sense of shared responsibility for local ecosystems, which in turn can help build more cohesive and resilient communities. The idea isn’t to ignore cultural, linguistic, or ethnic factors, but to complement them by aligning communities with the natural environment they inhabit.
Culture is shaped by the environment.
@@MyCommentSection This is the kind of thoughtfulness we need more of.
I´ve been following and listening to your podcasts since i was like 14 (im 20 now) and I stumbled across this video by chance, and how happy I am that I did!! new hyperfixation for the year omg
Something you have not really mentioned is culture and language. If we are going to be drawing borders according to geographical logic and stuff, then people who speak a different language would be grouped together (like French and Dutch, Russian and Latvian, or Vietnamese and Cambodian)
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I think borders may need to be organized into city states. Most of our political fighting is urban vs rural. Different wants and needs. Let the cities have a very large amout of autonomy but it only extends to city borders. Leave large areas of land between cities to govern themselves.
I’m super excited to see this channel grow and become bigger.
As someone who works with bioregions and kindof defines them I can tell you there are no correct bioregions based on ecology because there are endless ways to split things up. Look up maps of bird conservation regions and avifaunal biomes. Both ignore borders in the Americas. Also, we have to cut down trees to keep forests healthy unless we are going to let fires burn.
Yes to all of this (there's an episode about trees and fires coming)! And to your first point, this was why I included the explanation of how we're mapping the bioregions I'm talking about in this video
omg really amazing video! informative, interesting and engaging. I really hope you’ll make more 🙌🏼
"World's borders"
* spends most of the video focusing on Cascadia *
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I was focusing on Cascadia two
She was using it as a case study to make a wider point
Just found your channel, your videos are fascinating. It's the nice mixture of your great editing, the research you put into this video and also more importantly the kind of energy you bring on. Keep crushing.
Thank you!! :)
There are a few issues with this video. First is the idea that we would have to completely rearrange our national borders to be more cooperative with our neighbors when it comes to the environment. A region does not need to be in the same country for the people to take care of it. The second issue is of the dams. You bring this up as an example but to my knowledge these dams are not apart of any border so you are making the case for no dams purely on environmental grounds and has no connection to borders. Finally, the better example of this would have either been the US-Mexican border where building a physical barrier has impacted the ability of wildlife to cross or Africa where having borders with straight lines has impacted communities being split up far more than the US-Canadian border or US states.
It is relevant because the dams are used for diverting water outside of the river's watershed but within the state that has legal rights to the river's water.
I love the real motive of the video. Borders don’t matter. Borders weren’t stolen and the I saw what happened to the ungrateful and bigoted Klamath tribe leadership. They have cause unnecessary suffering for not only their own people but others and they aren’t testing down Shasta dam in your video. That is never going to happen. Salmon can easily go up the cosumnes, American and feather rivers. But you probably have no clue what I am talking about and therefore shouldn’t be talking about matters you don’t understand in California or Oregon
@@thefelonattorneyyeah she makes abound of really stupid points she says damns are bad which is not true they are necessary for electricity in some place and prevent floods makes it seem like it harms fish which even if it does why would I care there fish like what and if your gonna complains about borders all of Africa is there with you she makes. A lot of bad faith arguments
I love the topics you talk about and your energy so so much. I'll be watching.
I don't think "according to nature" is correct - for eg, as a Cascadia resident, there's a massive cultural divide between coastal northwesterners and inland northwesterners. We don't want to include Eastern Washington, let alone parts of Idaho!
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I'm looking forward to seeing more of your videos! Good editing, good interviews, cool info and MAPS! LOVE IT❤
I think the problem with using rivers as borders, is that sometimes their paths change. This has happened with the Rio Grande, for example, and there is now a city that is basically America in Mexico.
Hola Claudia! He repetido unas cuantas veces el inicio del vídeo para asegurarme de que no lo estaba entendiendo mal. Dices que la frontera de US-Canadá es ligeramente superior en longitud que la altura del monte Everest. El Everest mide 8km y pico, que si lo ponemos en llano, es la distancia que puedes recorrer yendo a dar un paseo. Obviamente la frontera entre US y Canadá es infinítamente más larga que eso.
¿Es posible que hayas mezclado metros con kilómetros?
Hola! Gracias por avisarme, efectivamente me he equivocado con la comparación. Ya lo he corregido para que no salga esa parte. Tendré más cuidado la próxima vez.
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Fantastic production quality and good storytelling - Well done!
Dams are not the problem, obstructive dams are, you need dams like Sorumsand Dam in Sorumsand, Norway. Dams that use the Beaver model of creating a path for the river to flow freely and naturally, as well as a section where it can bunch up and be of use to both people and nature that requires calmer water areas.
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I agree with a lot of what was said but some of it seems like a stretch or at least isn’t backed up well.
For example, I don’t understand how damming the Klamath river has anything to do with straight line borders. Seems more like an issue of disrespecting locals and valuing industrial “progress” over ecological sustainability.
Overall it was a very enjoyable video thanks!
Her point was that thinking in terms of bioregions sets people on a path to think of interdependent ecologies.
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The production quality of this video was really well done, it was a well researched video, but I must say that the title was somewhat misleading to me.
I was expecting a "rebuild" of the world borders based on Nature, you know, giving a brief history on why such country had borders that were so unnatural (Africa and Middle East have a ton of that due to colonialism) and how with nature that could be solved (I'd imagined that it would've been a mix of Real Life Lore and Atlas Pro). But instead, it was just the US-Canada border, specifically Cascadia with some history regarding the natives of that region and their hardships.
I mean, what was exactly the goal of the video is my question, it wasn't what the title suggested, since we only did Cascadia, and the other two main points (actually creating countries according to bioregions and the disruption that dams caused to nature and natives) weren't (in my opinion) really explored as in depth as it should've been.
Like, how would actually rearranging the world borders according to bioregions look like? How do we take into account a fully globalized economy with milions of people dependent on it?
Dams are a disruption to local nature? But at the same time, they're probably the most cleanest and green solution to production of high amounts of energy, right? My country (Brazil) has one the cleanest energies in the world, because like 80% of it come from hydroelectric dams, instead of coming from fossil fuels and etc.
So I don't know, I enjoyed the video, but at the same time felt that it could've been 3 different videos, each one covering their own topics and ideas in a greater depth.
the cleanest and greenest solution is geothermal, followed by nuclear. geothermal is too expensive in most places (we can drill deep enough to have geothermal everywhere its just far to expensive with current tech) leaveing nuclear as the best solution.
@@matthiuskoenig3378 How would nuclear work in a world such as this? Most of these bioregions wouldn't even have uranium deposits in the first place, so they'd have to resort to either trade, war, or just any other more readily available energy.
This was a very interesting and a well edited video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Politics is very important in what borders look like. We don't like how the government of this area is running things and they have too much support from people that don't live like us for us to make a change that benefits us. We're going to break off and run our area ourselves. It's how we got West Viginia and a lot of other states. Then there's these states with odd bumbs because the people of the area chose one state government over another. It's why Europe has so many countries with different customs and languages. Borders are about people and their decisions on who they want to be. Sometimes a geological feature is insurmountable and it forces a border but it's still people who decide that there is a border.
this, baseing borders around anything other than the people is forgetting that countries are about people.
" and their decisions on who they want to be", more like, who they're told to be. Usually thought primary exposure, teaching.
@@matthiuskoenig3378 And that people are natural entities too! I think sometimes in our ecocentrism, we forget that we are also part of nature, so our political and cultural endeavours are natural endeavours
This video was so good - felt really professional. I subbed but I hope there's many more videos and subs to come! :)
0:50 wait what? Did you just imply that Mt. Everest is almost 9000km tall? Surely I must be missing something...
Ye I don't know what happened there. US/Canada border is 8891 Kilometers long. Then she says if you were to summit it instead of walk it you would have 50 meters left and shows that Mt.Everest us 8849 METERS tall. Did she get confused between meters and kilometers? Is that a US not knowing metric system problem ? I mean a lot of work went into that animation so it was not simply missed.
It seems like it was just a brain fart on her part. You could damn near walk from the continental US to Mt. Everest if you were going the same length as the US-Canada border
@@stormxlr yeah, not to mention that I'll grant that confusing an "m" for a "km" is a minor and totally understandable mistake, especially if you're not used to metric -- but only for somebody who is bringing no prior knowledge to the discussion's context. Otherwise, it should mentally be a non-starter to compare a significant portion of the Earth's circumference (over 5,000 miles!) to the height of a mountain that is scaled by so many people every year that there is a single file line of climbers snaking its way up during every summer. One is near the limits of what a human can conceivably achieve with a sustained effort for a few days to weeks; the other is FAR outside of them.
I subscribed because it's a new channel and I enjoy her style, so I have faith that there could be some good videos coming...but tbh I dunno if I can respect somebody who not only made that mistake as like a brain fart, but was fully convinced of it for long enough to script, produce and edit an accompanying animation for it -- and never came to realize the glaring error in all the time between finishing that and uploading the video -- on an intellectual level...
@@B2F1 even allowing for a brain fart to explain the initial confusion, it's just one of those things that should immediately sound ridiculous as soon as you say it out loud and start pursuing it. It would be like saying the Burj Khalifa reaches halfway to the moon or something, it's just a patently ludicrous claim on its face. And I don't really buy that it has to do with confusion stemming from the units -- whatever unit system you're using, you're *never* going to find the length of a land border expressed in the same units as the height of a mountain!
The reason is that the typical scale of these quantities is literally _orders of magnitude_ apart, and this is something even most older children (much less adults in a professional context) should have an intuitive feel for, regardless of being unfamiliar with the particular details in a given case. In general, unless you have a REALLY abnormally short land border and you're comparing it to a REALLY abnormally tall mountain, there's no way these quantities are even going to be close...Mt. Everest as the tallest mountain on Earth is still
@@dancoroian1 This is how you know she didn't do the editing or the animation herself. She's probably paying one of those content farm companies which oversee lots of channels run by hot people with no skills or education who are trying to market themselves and get in on the pop-intellectual TH-cam niche. That's why the production style is so expensive and evocative of certain famous TH-camrs (some of whom have already been mentioned in the comments) even though it's a brand new channel.
As a longtime lover of TH-cam, it's pretty gross if you ask me. Slick production doesn't turn an idiotic topic like "bioregionalism" into a video worth watching. You can polish a turd, but it's still a turd.
Wow, I needed this. I am writing a fantasy story (World building), and nature is playing a major factor in it.
16:00 . This is a more contentious topic than you might think. Removing those hydroelectric dams will reduce significantly, the amount of renewable energy consumed in those states. In addition, it is widely understood that there is a large possibility that these efforts will not be enough to save salmon populations in the first place. Beyond this, I question the sentiment in projects like this. Urban societies are often vilified in favor of what we would call the idea of "untouched wilderness". What benefit to society does a thriving native salmon population pose, beyond an increased connection to nature.
While I appreciate nature and spend a lot of times outdoors in the cascadia region which you define, I also recognize that the idea of Nature is an inherently human concept in the first place. These bioregions will continue to operate regardless of lines drawn on a political map.
It's mainly the fact that the dams are reaching the end of their life cycles. The engineers working on them are essentially nurses in an assisted living home, tending to them through their sunset years. The dams need to be taken down as it is, and governments don't find it to be worth the cost to rebuild. The amount of electricity isn't negligible even on a watershed as small as the Klamath, but considering the algae blooms and the destruction to Salmon populations we really won't be missing much.
Growing up in Idaho, the Snake River dams have been a contentious issue for longer than I've been alive. And for good reason. Lewiston is a seaport in the mountains because of it. Entire economies and sections of the power grid depend on the Snake. There's much more to lose besides a few dams. But as those dams reach the end of their life cycle, I still find myself siding with environmentalists but that's beside the point.
The point is, it's not a shipping highway. The electricity generated is a relative blip, especially when compared to the not only the US as whole, but even the entire PNW with its vast supply of hydroelectric.
The economies centered around lake recreation will sadly be a casualty, but soon may give way to rafting tours and perhaps some of the best salmon fishing in the world. Sportsmen will pay insane amounts of money to participate. The Klamath dam situation appears to me more like the natural end of a life cycle than it does a complete breakdown of highly essential infrastructure that will plunge an entire chunk of the US back into the stone age haha.
@@wagonhound_official I go to college in Boise, so I am no stranger to the region. It is my opinion that the presence of the dams does more good for society than their absence would. Idaho is one of the few states in a position where they realistically could go all "green energy". Beyond that, it would cost over a billion to remove dams along the snake. Investments could instead be made to cement the dams as a path towards the future, rather than something holding us back.
Your point is valid, there is something to be said for preserving nature. There are two sides to every coin though.
@@owenwillard5409 already existing absolutely, but take a backpack trip or better yet a rafting trip through the Frank Church Wilderness and tell me that we would have been better off developing all that. The salmon river is a national treasure. The Snake River isn't so cut and dry due to the level of infrastructure in place, but what I'm saying is the Klamath isn't supporting a mass number of livelihoods. Entire cities don't exist as they do today solely because of the Klamath river being dammed. Klamath Falls maybe, but they're not breaching the Klamath lake dam. Just the four downriver, in a largely undeveloped backwater. I'm very excited to see what comes of this in future studies.
This is a good video, but I think that the idea that the current nation-states should all be abolished, decentralized and reestablished based on "bioregions" is not only idealistic, but would also lead to a catastrophically unprecedented global-wide humanitarian, economic, social and political crisis. We can argue that borders are a human construct (which they absolutely are) but in our modern world, borders very frequently hold a significant influence over the lives of people. Many of these regions would basically be failed states due to the lack of access to basic resources like water, many of these regions wouldn't have been able to sustain the populations that they do without belonging to another nation-state with which they could exchange resources, food, water, etc. This would also create states hyper-dependent on very specific resources, while they would very hardly have access to other different resources, some of which could be crucial, like uranium for nuclear power plants. Many of these new bioregions would also, again, separate thousands of ethnic groups and communities all around the world for the sake of bioregionalism, while many others would be unwillingly lumped into the same state just because they share the same biome, like what would probably happen to Ireland under the UK. Even if the UK were to be "reformed", Irish people would hardly every support uniting with the UK in the name of bioregionalism, which is why I think the original premise of the video to be somewhat American-centric. How would be ensure that countries wouldn't invade each other over competition for resources?
There are certainly important things to learn from bioregionalism, but I wish these would rather be implemented in the way of international cooperation and solidarity, specifically when it comes to policies regarding environmental issues, but not abolishing the modern nation-states just because. It is better to work and improve what we already have.
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Amazing. Subscribed just of this video. Thank you!
The description of tricking and killing native people is woefully in accurate
I love geography videos so much !! Very informative and entertaining 🌎😆
Let's recreate the big France of the revolution from the Pyrénées to the Alpes to the Rhine! Natural borders! 🇫🇷
It's my first time on this channel and i really liked this topic and the way you trated it. Really good infirmation, explanation, and motivation by doing it (it really seemed you liked it!). Congrats and here's my subscription!
The US/Canada border is the least problematic straight line border in the world, its sparsely populated, and both countries have no disputes over it. Wanting to change it because "it looks ugly!" it not a valid reason.
fr this video is so dumb
Cascadia is valid & deserves independence or at least cross-nation statehood status
@@j134679 no it doesn’t, there’s people who have formed national identities to either be Canadian or American; to carve that up because you feel it would be “neater” is ridiculous, I’m one of the people living in the Cascadia region and I think this is a ridiculous idea only touted by those who don’t understand how either country works.
This TH-camr will be famous one day, the quality is very good :)
Bioregionalism is cool and all, but where does the nation come into this?
Cascadian independence
Loving this channel! Thank you for bringing your enthusiasm to this global conversation 🧡🙏🏼🕊️
You sound pretty confident and the editing is pretty well done! You have very little videos posted, but I'll guess you already have lot of experience as a content creator, that's pretty nice.
Would be cool if you could talk about permaculture someday on your next videos, that's like, the life style of my dreams, but all is so cramped here on the cities.
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Super cool video!
I live in British Columbia and it was interesting hearing someone on the other side of the world talk about my backyard, its peculiar quirks like point Roberts, and the recent environmental disasters I was in the thick of: flooding in Sumas and forest fires in the South Okanagan. The floods in Sumas are a great example of how an infrastructure failure on one side of a political border impacted us on the other.
Most people in British Columbia do not wish to secede from Canada, and most Oregonians and Washingtonians probably don't want to either unless maybe they live in Seattle or Portland. Quite frankly as a Canadian it'll be a cold day in hell before I leave Canada to live with Americans. Maybe that's all part of it, one's identity is more than their local region. Also, tbh the last people I'd want managing my provinces/cascadia's economy are proponents of an autonomous Cascadia. Like the one fellow who advocated moving away from an "extractive economy." I'm sorry but mining, logging, and fishing are the backbone of this province and are the whole reason it exists at all. Yes, we should manage it to make it as sustainable and renewable as possible, and yes it's good to diversify our economy as well.. but if we were to secede and unite into one big Cascadia, we'd only be viable as a nation if we relied on hydro-electric dams for electricity, and logging, fishing, farming, and mining for our economy. Especially logging and mining.
We hate you on the other side too. As Kamala would say, Do Not Come. Do not come
and this is why you should be active & vocal in Cascadia groups to help steer it into a better autonomous region