As a Chicago dude I gotta be honest, when New York adopted LA gang politics that’s when y’all lost y’all identity…. It’s 3 cities in America that create street culture here in America that’s LA, Chicago, and it was New York, for the life of me I just don’t understand why y’all gave up y’all identity! The country use to mimic y’all slang, style, swag etc….
Thank you! I remember when Bloods and Crips came to NYC. I wondered the same thing- how you rep a block you never stood on? In the 80’s and 90’s NYC used to have crews. Let LA have the Bloods and Crips. That’s how they get down. So it will never look right in NYC.
@@villvinno3175 Bloods and Crips started popping up in NYC in like the 90’s. I’m not saying that shit gon end anytime soon, but after about 30 years of being here shit still don’t sit right.
The only thing that separates the gangs in La & Chicago from other black gangs in other states is that you belong to a higher umbrella or nation. The gangs are crews. Nothing different. Just bigger. Gangs in La pre- date crips and bloods . So in reality all the gangs in La would have been independent gangs and crews and block just like other states
Year 2000 I went Juve the Carribean Day parade in Brooklyn. The first time I seen bloods and crips bump heads. It was awkward af and I knew from there that New York would change if this gets bigger. That gang shit watered down what New York is really all about
Wait so no yardi stepped in and put a end to that bullshit on the spot ..the Caribbean people let that fucry go down...that must be the yr they had 16 shootings at the parade..
PEOPLE LISTEN. It has become a problem because the issue is that we GLORIFY AND PROMOTE IT AND SALUTE IT AND ACCEPT THIS BS. How in the world is it that the Famous, popular and most wealthiest rap artist are so called claiming to be apart or affiliated with GANGS, GANGBANGING!! WHAT DO WE THINK WAS GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN YOU POPULARIZE...BUFFOONERY! WHAT IS OUR INFATUATION WITH GLORIFYING GANGSTERISM, THUGISM, GANG BANGING, CANCEL ALL THAT BS!
@@RIGHTEOUSBUTRUTHLESSTV it's us not only as black people but American society for continually consuming the nonsense that we say we are tired of. At the same time the entertainment want to force the negativity down our throat because when someone come with positivity they say it won't sell. But when the negativity won't sell they just try to give us more. Look at the thot rap it keeps flopping but they just repackage and try to sell it to us again smh.
You can tell Math is both street smart but also intelligent outside of the streets. Love to see street dudes change their lives around. It’s a better way fellas 🙏🏽
its more dudes like him they’re just not in the hip hop spotlight. Hood Dudes work and take care of their duties. Street smart is a survival instinct in the ghetto. Many men and women survive and do well. Most black poor ppl dont get killed nor go to jail. Bad news and narratives travel and make news.
@@bezbthatdude4558 nah he didn’t bro. The example he was making was that people love to see actual drill raps happen. He was basically saying they could just go watch a movie if they want to see it.
Personally growing up in The Bronx during the rise of bloods and crips. I was disappointed in the 5 boroughs. Bloods and crips was a Cali thing NY was known for clicks and crews. people had pride in checking anyone who was not from your block:what block you from? Someone saying nah he good he’s from such and such block was a form of validation. Than 031 popped up October 31st you had to be on full alert and make sure you didn’t catch a buck 50 for no reason. Sliced in the face. I’m not a street dude and I’m not a sucka I hated the mental trauma that ish caused. I would wear red because i was told i couldn’t wear red are you insane this is NYC
Back when this whole blood and crip thing was really catching on, I remember school being empty af one Halloween. The rumor was the bloods was gonna be up at my HS slicing ppl. I tried to get out of going to school that day, and my parents was NOT having it! I went to school that day and nothing happened. People was saying they went to another HS not too far away. So I ran into my homeboy that afternoon (we used to take the train home together) who went to that HS and I asked him about was school crazy for him. He said no because ppl at his school was saying the Bloods decided to go to my school instead 🤣🤣🤣🤣
yea man.. definitely remember those days. I used to go to I.S.184 & the gangs were brewing/coming up. ñetas, zulu, kings, bloods, & crips. then I remember when ddp came around way before trinitarios now but I remember ddp coming to my school to recruit people but my school had a lot of bloods. I used to watch the news people getting sliced for wearing red & I honestly was not feeling that at all. I remember digging deeper and learning more of the "gang culture" I guess you could say & ended up becoming a Crip after realizing those were the bloods enemies. funny thing is we went to my grandmother's house every other day & the area she lived in were all crips but back in those days crips were quiet. we weren't LOUD like the bloods were so people didn't even suspect anything all they saw was blue. I lost a few "friends" cause they were bloods but I never liked or wanted to join them especially didn't like the way they were moving & doing things. I will never forget the next day I walked into school with a blue durag & everybody looking at me like I was crazy but my mentality was "F*** them" long story short I may not be proud of where this life took me but I have learned a lot in my journey. 💙 all I tell my locs & fellow new yorkers stay safe out there.. there's more to life than just "the block" expand your mind.
PEOPLE LISTEN. It has become a problem because the issue is that we GLORIFY AND PROMOTE IT AND SALUTE IT AND ACCEPT THIS BS. How in the world is it that the Famous, popular and most wealthiest rap artist are so called claiming to be apart or affiliated with GANGS, GANGBANGING!! WHAT DO WE THINK WAS GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN YOU POPULARIZE...BUFFOONERY! WHAT IS OUR INFATUATION WITH GLORIFYING GANGSTERISM, THUGISM, GANG BANGING, CANCEL ALL THAT BS!
My generation set this up for failure!!! In the 90's; we said as a hip hop community that you couldn't speak on certain things unless you actually lived the life. That turned into what we have now. Rap artist living the 'life' out in the open...smh. Just to say they keeping it 💯
That little snippet before thuggish ruggish bone when the lady was giving a speech against gansta rap. As much flack and protest that mindset got she was right and so where all the old heads against gangsta rap. That shit has had a terrible impact all around on the community and mindset. Certain things still would’ve went on but the music influenced and intensified it times 10
bro I'm 45 years old and I've been writing music since 1989. this was definitely the case everything you f****** said. just like he set up here in the video these kids play it like it's Grand Theft Auto. which I think that game ruined a lot of Minds
You wrong. The welfare system is responsible. Super masculine,ultra aggressive, I don't need no man women are responsible. Single father homes and two parent homes don't produce these losers, only single mother homes.
It’s so crazy how shit flipped. Back in the day the goal was to get rich and leave to go to a better area. Now niggas get some money and never leave. Math addressed this in the video, and so many young niggas stay in this dumb cycle
PEOPLE LISTEN. It has become a problem because the issue is that we GLORIFY AND PROMOTE IT AND SALUTE IT AND ACCEPT THIS BS. How in the world is it that the Famous, popular and most wealthiest rap artist are so called claiming to be apart or affiliated with GANGS, GANGBANGING!! WHAT DO WE THINK WAS GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN YOU POPULARIZE...BUFFOONERY! WHAT IS OUR INFATUATION WITH GLORIFYING GANGSTERISM, THUGISM, GANG BANGING, CANCEL ALL THAT BS!
As a New Yorker… ima just say… that shit can’t get out back in the bottle now… we tried for a sec, but it’s too far gone. It will be a miracle if there are ever no more Bloods and Crips in NYC. It is too prevalent!! And honestly they’ve been here too long at this point. Kids have parents and grandparents that are Bloods here now. And NYC gets a lot of heat for it, but these gangs are all over Atlanta, Miami, New Orleans, Memphis, everywhere now and it’s a shame
Do you think that if the brothers in Rikers in 1993 would've called themselves any other name besides blood that there would've been a major crip presence in NYC? Blood and crip are natural rivals. If the brothers would've called themselves Black Power or something like that, I really don't think that it would've been a major crip presence to go against them. But as soon as you call yourself blood, it's like it's guaranteed you're gonna have crips.
LA ain’t the only place in California that has gangs. Also there are black gnags in California who aren’t bloods or crips like the Hoover criminals or the black rag mafia gangs in the inland empire. You got the aryan brother hood , Mexican mafia surenos umbrella Nortenos, nuestra familia, Fresno bulldogs ms13 then all the Hispanics gangs in cities in so cal. LA ain’t even the most dangerous city ain’t even top 10 in Cali.
I was born and raised in Brooklyn. Born in '83 and grew up in the '90s. What Math said at the end of this clip about Bloods and Crips are spot on, and this is why I tell people that NYC is not a gang city like LA or Chicago. You could be Blood and have a whole set behind you in New York, but street politics and culture don't fully subscribe to deep-rooted gang affiliation. You didn't NEED to be Blood or Crip if you had enough street pull, whereas it seems like in LA or Chicago it's so engrained in their culture that you practically cannot survive without joining a gang. For regular people like me, Bloods and Crips blowing up in NYC in the '90s meant that I was going to lose an altercation immediately if I got into beef with a gang member. But certain people who lived the street life would look down on gang affiliation, almost like it was embarrassing to be in a gang. Math just comes from that era where NYC authenticity was still prevalent. Aside from Freeway Ricky, you seldom hear of people from LA who were able to make moves without being part of some sort of gang. In NYC, gangs are part of our street history, even before Bloods, Crips and Latin Kings. In Chicago and LA, gangs are at the forefront street life history and politics. One is not better or worse than the other, that's just the way it is.
New York been a gang city. The Warriors was made in the 70s. What year did the movies Colors come out? Stop trolling NY Crips n Bloods and say it to the faces
1. Freeway Ricky was never in a gang. That’s why I pointed out he was an exception. 2. I never once typed that NYC didn’t have gangs. I’m aware of everything from The Warriors to Lo Lives, Decepticons, 5 percenters, and other organic home grown NYC gangs. My point is that you did not NEED to be in a gang to survive. Almost all street politics in LA and Chicago are somehow connected to gangs. It is not like that in NYC. Sometimes gangs are involved, and sometimes they are not. In LA and Chicago, you practically NEED to be in a gang to survive. If you are having trouble understanding that then either your reading comprehension skills are not at the same level as my initial comment or you are just not familiar with how deep rooted gang culture is in Southern California and Chicago. Again, I never typed that there are NO gangs in NYC. There are gangs everywhere. But NYC is not a gang city like LA and Chicago. Not sure why that’s so difficult to understand.
Math hit it right on the head..It is society.This society is violent from the movies to the music...We thrive off of violence as humans in general.These young kids are just a by product of that.
Yo! Math just echoed what was going on in nyc 97/98.. I was asking those same questions, like yo what is you doing? And would get those wild explanations . Crazy
To be honest being from Cali (South Central) I've always been more of a New York fan regarding the music. I was always attracted to NY slang, the NY accent, the NY rap style, the scenery from what I've seen in music videos and movies with the snow and big tall buildings. Throughout my childhood and teen years I always wanted to go to NY because of its distinction from CA. I know Cali shit, seen CA shit, lived and talked that Cali shit so the last thing I want to be reminded of is more Cali shit somewhere else. The reason why classic NY rap is my favorite NY rap is because niggas like Biggie, Jay Z, Nas, 50 Cent, Jadakiss etc gave us that true NY culture with the timbs, big puffy jackets, and that authentic east coast hustler vibe. I say all this to say I think this modern NY-version of Cali, shit is weak ass fuck. I'm no longer interested in visiting NY no more because that shit watered down. When I go to Brooklyn I wanna experience that organic classic NY hood shit not a Brooklyn-version of Compton, that's borin. I'll just stay my ass in Compton CA if I wanna see Compton. The Crip and Blood shit will only look good on Cali niggas because we were the ones who organically originated the culture. Let some Cali niggas try copying down south niggas puttin grillz all in our mouths and shit we'll look goofy ass fuck because that ain't our natural swagg that's for them Houston niggas or New Orleans niggas. Differentiation is a beautiful thing don't fuck it up with imitation.
You 💯 correct my man! Love nyc culture and how you unique it once was! The music changed with the street b.s wanna beez! The gang element coming out of Cali start it off for totally different reasons than the way it did in NY! It's like a trend thing going out there and it stole from its hip hop culture drastically. Rap is boring now unless you dig in the crates.
I'm from Brooklyn and I agree 100% with what you said & what Math said. Now when I did come out to LA , actually passed thru Greenleaf, When I was in Hawthorne I actually was surprised at how many Mexicans were out there. I knew there was alot but it was even more than I thought definitely the biggest thing I remember
@@gangsaretheblackkkk6291 Mexicans definitely and unfortunately taken over the West Coast bruh. Black folks are severely outnumbered it ain't shit like the East Coast or the South we the minority like a mf. Mexico is right next door they aid together culturally. They're extremely racist and basically reproducing Mexico here. Gentrification by the White folks is crushin southern Black Californians more of us are relocating to other areas outside of Los Angeles County like the I.E (Inland Empire) counties like Riverside and San Bernardino. San Bernardino is new L.A in terms of all that traditional Cali hood shit. I wanna know about the Puerto Rican situation out there in New York tho. I use to live in Florida so I have slight experience of that East Coast energy
I agree with Math. Gang banging was always dumb af to me. I gotta beef with these dudes I don't know, repping a color or block I'm not from and die or go to jail over a gang who was never after my best interest. Hell nah
How is that any different than being in the army and fighting ppl u don't know, in a country you know nothing about ,all in the name of??? FREEDOM?? 🧢🧢
Facts Math💯I remember my first bid 18 and you knew dudes wasnt built like that just actin tough because they joined either crip or blood for protection. A few were thorough but most was just followers. Most of them had a battery put in they back to so call put in work with dudes they knew were lesser equals to them, they knew who to bounce on and who to fall back on. But you get more respect staying nuetral and speak to your character and manhood when you stand alone tough as oppose to with a crowd tough💯👊🏿
I was born & raised in Brooklyn NY and spend some time in queens, and in the late 80s & though out the 90s we were dealers, robbers and players in the 70s there were gangs but they died out, we had the 5 percent nation and the Deceps, Anything after that was jacking other city's shit and that's where NY went left...💯 The Latin kings had a strong hold until the bloods starting Reppin.
Word, finally a nigga really explained the feelings of real dudes on the East Coast about the onset of Blood’s and Crips . It was the youth, the kids jumping on the bandwagon. Til this day a lot of solid older dudes still don’t fuck with it. This ain’t Cali…
Not east coast cause niggas from Cali establish the hoods in jersey in fact jersey is the like only place outside of L.A that have ties to the hoods that’s why niggas from Cali don’t say shit about jersey cause they introduced us to the gang culture New York just hop on
@@jerseyboyantbrooks2824 jersey never had hood crews before Cali dudes talked dudes into bangin they culture?(ny has some connected LA blood & crip sets...more so on the crip sets where as the blood sht is more homegrown to point alotta dudes say they fake)..end of the day real or fake alotta dudes say it's wack because we(ny'ers) had our own culture...
That last part though! "You reppin a block that you NEVER stood on!" BARZ!!! Jay Z said it best. "Never thought I'd see the day when N.Y. would gang bang." Smh
"All of sudden we got crip n bloods, DT's rumning around quick to split your mug" Nas; NY State of Mind Pt 2, I Am album 1999 Irony is vlad you talk about Nas being a bad beat picker and he rapped about this 23 years ago and its still relevant
NY Set Tripping and Flagging Got The West Coast Laughing Now Esco’s Asking What Happened- Nas “Let There Be Light” Feat. Tre Williams Album - Hiphop Is Dead
Word, H., is speaking facts. I grew up in Far Rock where it was crews, and projects. The gangs were local. Scramblers, lost boys, 5% god bodies, Deceptacons, ethnic crews (Jamaicans, Haitians, Guyanese, Latin kings). That bloods and crips thing was so foreign to us.
@@piyesankara890 Kings history in NY is the interesting. It’s older than what people realize, and it’s not as connected to Chicago as most would believe.
@@piyesankara890 I get what H is talkin about in regards to bloods and crips you legit got people jackin specific streets from Cali you got people talking about they Rolling 60s they 9trey they 8tre that’s the weird shit he talking about Latin King was a more structured organization not specific to certain hoods or streets if that makes any sense
NYC is nothing but immigrants. I use to visit my Grandmother in Queens she lived on Jamaica Ave that whole area is filled with nothing but immigrants. NYC has really lost its culture. I think once FBA’s started moving out of the city and headed back down south the soul left with it. I went to NYC in February for my birthday and the shit just doesn’t feel like NYC back in the 80’s or 90’s the vibe is just wayyy different and I’m from DC saying this 💯
Exactly! When you look at the most popular rappers from NYC over the past 10 years: Bobby Shmurda, 69, Cardi B, Nikki, Pop Smoke, C.J., Rowdy Rebel, Casanova, etc. they're all of Caribbean descent. As you mentioned a LOT of native Blacks moved down south over the years.
@@MrSuSp7 which is dumb as hell cause Vlad still uses the NOI for security. He handled it behind the scenes but Jamar wanted him to do it live. Jamar and Godfrey dropped the back. Jamar is sadly off the grid since. He dropped the bag. But Tray Dee and Vlad are still cool. If not Vlad wouldn’t utter his name like Mysonne, Godfrey, and Jamar
Big Facts!!! 💯 Math said some real shit right there in the end when he talked about young dudes following Cali Gang culture. It was really weird to see smdh
Maff hoffa is an intelligent dude. Hes made mistakes but he was able to learn from his mistakes earlier than most people do. Like he said the problem will never stop because its our society in general. There will always be more sheep in society in general than leaders, and thats why its vital to have balance in society, along with more leaders to wake up a lot of those sheep and nourish the lost souls. If we continue going down this same route where quick fixes, violence, and pleasure overshadows being self sufficient as well as educated us as a society will fail in the long run. I was one lf those people growing up in the 80s and 90s who was fascinated by violence, gangs, and even their urban style. I wasnt peer pressured to do nothing nor did i ever get locked up, but i can admit to a certain degree the negative aspect hiphop had a level of influence. But luckily i grew up in an era where there was not only balance in music, but also a lot of positige role models. We control our own destiny but if youre conditioned in a certain negative enviroment only a few will be able to change their circumstances mentally the rest will get influence by it thats just life. Now we are dealing with a totally new era where there is no balance and now this era is adopting the negative aspect mostly of the 90s which was the first era to embrace it in abundance despite out balance. Now as a old head it kind of makes me feel like and accomplice because we helped pave the way for the negativity today.
I say this all the time specifically with bloods in ny can't really speak on crips because every hood I lived in ny was all blood but 95-96% of dudes was cornballs..the solid dudes who happened to be with it seemed to be in they own lane & was focused more on things outside of bangin
Never liked Hoffa after the sucker punch but the shit he said about gangs is spot on. The Baltimore I grew up in did not prescribe to gangs and it was literally wherever you lived that’s who you rolled with. Bmore was heavy on the don’t be a follower and be yourself, even if you a nerd stay in your lane and we respect it.
i’m glad Math said this publicly, i always thought Bloods n Crips in NYC/Jersey was a corny ass look..especially with them recruiting all the weirdos and crash dummies … NYC had they’re OWN gangs/ crews.. never understood WHY they were so hellbent on becoming followers of other cities…
Stop saying east coast cause New Jersey the only place outside of L.A where actually bloods and crips established hoods in jersey in fact New York got it from jersey it’s a connection with jersey and Cali so can’t say east coast you mean New York
I almost became one of those suckers I remember being in NJ Morristown jail waiting on my court case me and this this dude from New York that became close and he was a blood and he asked me to become one he even took the time out to write out the oath which I was to sign.. the writing was in all red I'll never forget that day
@@EricOWilliam it's finished. Especially if you are black. Black people literally have no real general business in L.A.. The voting power has dwindle to literally begging and anyone who tries at this point to change itt are blocked by the city or has been killed by their own.
50 What Up Gangsta was about NY C's n B's(2003). NY still set trends. Crips started in 1969(Bloods 75). It hit NY(so what). Hip Hop hit LA also. The Eses wasn't messing with it(they on it now)
Aye boooy! I’ll apologize now… I thought way too soon about Hoffa. I didn’t like him for a while but he’s a real, real one. My man’s really for our people. That’s true love for hip hop/ rap…
Super facts!! Saw a lot of dudes that had no ties to the streets run to the gangs and become overnight gangsters. Could not believe New Yorkers was really claiming California gangs. Thought it would fade out but here we are decades later and it’s still rocking so 🤷🏽♂️
As a dude born and raised in NYC i cant stand it!!! The NY that im from originated shit. We never copied. We respected the gang culture in other states but that just wasn't our wave. Now our young men are dying and doing football numbers in jail over some shit they know nothing about.
Now every state is mimicking Chicago drill culture , it’s just a cycle , couple years it’ll be something different. But the 90s for sure belonged to La gang culture
It’s not going anywhere…. NY gets heat for it but these gangs are all over the south and Midwest too now! NY actually probably has some of the older Blood sets outside of Cali at this point. Kids have parents and grandparents that are Bloods and Crips. So me and you might think it’s new and odd, but if you are 15 and in the Bronx you are like “wtf are you talking about? There have always been Bloods on my block, this isn’t new” it’s hear now
4:57 Vlad saying that like that's the point smh. I'm 39 and it's funny as soon as I was transferred out of a Queens private school in '95 to one in Long Island, I heard about Crips and Bloods being mentioned in NYC some of my former classmates even joined. Since then, it seems NY hip hop music transitioned from being diverse in sound and originality to the darker,misogynistic style I guess to reflect what was going on in the streets(from Biggie and Mase to Ruff Ryders and Dipset)
Oh that I know ...his rhyme style and pattern was the foundation for sure but I'm saying the gangs from the West Coast and Chicago was the foundation of groups like Dipset
Trust me when i tell yall that la bloods and crips do not take ny members serious they look at them as posers trust out of state bloods and crips get laughed at over here in cali on god.
I’m from Far Rockaway Queens..We all was kids..Most kids don’t see that far..The problem my era have is it’s not as tough now as it was our era…2020 it’s was 450 murders .In 1990 it 2000…With no cameras..In there’s times our kids are graduating from high school at a better clip and also college…These are not the worst of times..It’s the worst of coverage..
I’m from North Carolina, I feel the same way about folks who bang down here. If you’re not from those blocks, you 🧢. Rep where you from. No need to bang, just keep it G.
Whether you want to call it gang banging, block banging, street crews or drug gangs, NY would have been something anyway, I mean look at the Bronx going all the way back to the 80s. If it wasn't blood or crip in NY, it would have been something under other names doing the same things.
Math is 💯 for this one. Gangs for most dudes are for cowards man. Who need protection. A very small percentage might join because they don’t have that family feeling at home. But most are just scared. Almost all end up dead or in jail though
Is the USA “scared “ when they war with their rivals? Were they scared when they conquered/enslaved your ancestors ? Structure and unity under a common cause equals power.
@@kmonger I’m talking about individuals. Not the country. If you want to discuss that we can. But I’m not going to deviate from the topic that was discussed
@@charliecheetah4654 The ''country'' is a gang. It has founders. Colors. A written constitution. And a history of criminal behavior (white supremacy). It's territory was taken by force. And it wages war on it's enemies. What is the difference between them and these gangs you speak of?
So black men are supposed to be individualistic? Ironically our lack of structure and tribal/individualistic mentality allowed us to be conquered by a more organized people.
Math is being so honest and factual about that time in NYC…. I’m in the South Bronx and it was the same way. All the lames became Blood and 10 years later they were big homies, but like I tell the young Bulls your big homie is probably my little man 💯🦾 In my neighborhood all the gangs have a few dudes repping them, but the real power comes from the business men not them 🤫💯🦾
@@Jonathanfifer00 What sound is that? Hardcore Hip Hop is drill music now. That's NY sound, Hardcore Hip Hop and plenty more sounds. It's about the music(good or bad). Stop hating. I bet if NY drill had weak music and no NY swag to it, you wouldn't be talking. The whole world does NY drill now💙🗽❤ and getting sturdy
@@jknumber5138 the whole world does Ny drill? Drill didn’t start in NY genius it started in Chicago and NY copied it , nobody is hating on NY bro I clearly said ny is the Mecca of hip hop and the sound I mean is the classic NY style of music. Like jay z and stuff like that
Fathers raise your sons. Men who have strong father figures in their lives have no need to find brotherhood in the streets. For the 2nd, 3rd and 4th generation gangsters, your life, your choice. For the civilians, get over your daddy issues and stay the fuck off the streets.
@@Imjustbored2023 where at ? what boro L.a dudes set up shop at? lies, ny dudes are just copy cats, its meanly you immigrants tho y'all don't have no choice but to copy no culture having asses.
I've said it a dozen times, I'm a proud square/lame from a normal loving two parent home, something few ghetto people know anything about. Clearly, I'm not into this ghetto bastard culture, but damn it was nice to hear someone concerned enough to speak up about the new poison in the community. Willie Lynch and Thanos were right.
Sort of like Ar Ab how Glad watched him get more and more intoxicated and say more and more incriminating things, like "I inherited my plug..." and putting it out, he could clip that. Just an example of what Math is saying.
I remember around 01’ when regular number blocks turned red overnight it was crazy to me. I thought that it was just a fad and the niggas racing to get jumped in was corny as hell here we are 20 years later and kids is growing up over in it now. It still doesn’t make sense how fast it spread but I definitely would blame/credit movies and music cause after Dipset and The Game everybody wanted to be blood smh
@1:34 The problem is that once you do get the money yes you can go BUUUUUT the music that got you there is self destructive for the ones who didn't get the money. It's a cycle that has to be broken.....that's why its important to know and think wtf you saying in your songs and how ppl are receiving it... especially if these youngsters are idolizing these street "real" rappers. Idk why ppl still try to brush this off like it's not part of the problem.
Gang bangers are a bunch of followers. Dying & killing over nothing. That shit is lame. Alot of good kids get influenced through the music. & that’s why I will try to keep my kids away from listening to it, cause that shit is poison for the mind. Everybody wants to be like these celebrities & be a bunch of followers, but the truth is they’re poisoning the mind of youngsters & making money off of it. Rappers make it cool to do drugs & kill, but when you look at their kids, most of them are on a straight path & keep them away from that shit. If these rappers would push the same positive message that they push on their own kids, I bet you alot of this drug using, gang banging, murder shit would stop. 💯
Hahaha really wasn’t Latin kings a Chicago gang and they claimed it out there ..NEW YORK LOST THEIR IDENTITY ONCE GANSTA RAP GOT INTRODUCED CUZ THEY DIDNT KNOW WHAT TO DO ONCE REAL RAP GOT INTRODUCED CUZ THEY WERENT HOOD THEY WERE SUCKAS
I agree, they should've left that shit in LA. New York was known for Hip Hop, Break Dancing, hustling and Mafia. Now you got these lame ass dudes claiming Cali gangs, with no LA ties
He ain’t lying, I lived in Syracuse and saw a lot of herbs trying to blood or crip. I remember this dude who had his red flag on getting reduced to tears because this dude was getting on him in class 🤣
Nick ain't at fault. No one knows what exactly they'll use against you. Best practice is "quiet is kept" the streets know what it is, and interviewers KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY DOING.
I'm from the old NYC before Crack, cameras and the gangs... The 1980's and early 1990's were so different... NYC turned to fans of other cities gang cultures from Latin Kings, Bloods and Crips MS 13 all kind of b.s. that made us turn into followers instead of leaders smdh
Facts...NYC fashion went from fancy bombers,Pelle Pelle and Avirex jackets to dudes wearing rags,biker jackets and pants sagging smh. Before the Bloods formed up heavy in Rikers in '93, Crips and Latin Kings were already in the streets. The attacks on civilians including slashings and stealing jackets and sneakers was a sick time in 90s
To be honest the source is this one world we are now living in with the internet, along with society. The internet magnified the glorification of street life and made it mainstream. Before the internet each region in the us was more distinct and seemed like another world. Yeah you can still tell the different from different regions of the us, but people are more likely to all adopt the same style and do the same thing as the rest of the nation now. It also makes time fly with all the distractions by the second. People had more time to perfect their craft back than, it was just a different world we grew up in and took for granted. despite the internets benefits i feel it has made us go backwards instead of forward as humans, but of course only by hindsight and wisdom the old heads will understand more since they are less brainwashed than the present generation. It a reoccuring cycle each generation.
As a Chicago dude I gotta be honest, when New York adopted LA gang politics that’s when y’all lost y’all identity…. It’s 3 cities in America that create street culture here in America that’s LA, Chicago, and it was New York, for the life of me I just don’t understand why y’all gave up y’all identity! The country use to mimic y’all slang, style, swag etc….
DC
NYC ain’t even in the top for gang per capita. It’s #1 cook county Chicago, #2 LA county then #3 San Bernardino county then Fresno county #4
@@_cali187x_3 he’s speaking on the Hiphop community aspect of it
100 percent correct
@@_cali187x_3 he said streets not gang… ny use to be crews… blocks n drug crews had gangs also but the streets had own identity
Thank you! I remember when Bloods and Crips came to NYC. I wondered the same thing- how you rep a block you never stood on? In the 80’s and 90’s NYC used to have crews. Let LA have the Bloods and Crips. That’s how they get down. So it will never look right in NYC.
Blood or crip is an car. Sets are in that car
Exactly
Too late fa all that shit..that shit been there just like kings came from here to ny
@@villvinno3175 Bloods and Crips started popping up in NYC in like the 90’s. I’m not saying that shit gon end anytime soon, but after about 30 years of being here shit still don’t sit right.
The only thing that separates the gangs in La & Chicago from other black gangs in other states is that you belong to a higher umbrella or nation. The gangs are crews. Nothing different. Just bigger. Gangs in La pre- date crips and bloods . So in reality all the gangs in La would have been independent gangs and crews and block just like other states
"...repping a block they never stood on" Let that sink in
Vlad is THE WHITEST 😂😂😂 “I HAVE GANG MEMBER FRIENDS!!!!!”
Vlad be the Whitest, Down wit King Midas
Lmao leave the white boy alone🤣😂😂😂
Russian
@@THECABSOURHERE Same thing.
It’s established
I love how Vlad always has to clarify that he's NOT a gangsta as if anybody had any suspension that he was lmao
😂😂😂
People like that end up being the biggest gang and cartel leaders. Don’t let anyone fool you.
Exactly!!!! Yet he's built an empire on exploiting said gang members....
Suspicion
I got suspended a few times at school
Year 2000 I went Juve the Carribean Day parade in Brooklyn. The first time I seen bloods and crips bump heads. It was awkward af and I knew from there that New York would change if this gets bigger. That gang shit watered down what New York is really all about
Bloods and Crips are that influential. Changed the trajectory of things
I remember this as well. I was like what the hell. We imitating Cali? Smh. Bring back Decepts and Lo Life's if it's that serious.
Wait so no yardi stepped in and put a end to that bullshit on the spot ..the Caribbean people let that fucry go down...that must be the yr they had 16 shootings at the parade..
Our whole community need to hit the reset button.
That part
Definitely
PEOPLE LISTEN. It has become a problem because the issue is that we
GLORIFY AND PROMOTE IT AND SALUTE IT AND ACCEPT THIS BS. How in the world is it that the Famous, popular and most wealthiest rap artist are so called claiming to be apart or affiliated with GANGS, GANGBANGING!! WHAT DO WE THINK WAS GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN YOU POPULARIZE...BUFFOONERY! WHAT IS OUR INFATUATION WITH GLORIFYING GANGSTERISM, THUGISM, GANG BANGING, CANCEL ALL THAT BS!
Basically
@@RIGHTEOUSBUTRUTHLESSTV it's us not only as black people but American society for continually consuming the nonsense that we say we are tired of. At the same time the entertainment want to force the negativity down our throat because when someone come with positivity they say it won't sell. But when the negativity won't sell they just try to give us more. Look at the thot rap it keeps flopping but they just repackage and try to sell it to us again smh.
You can tell Math is both street smart but also intelligent outside of the streets. Love to see street dudes change their lives around. It’s a better way fellas 🙏🏽
its more dudes like him they’re just not in the hip hop spotlight. Hood Dudes work and take care of their duties. Street smart is a survival instinct in the ghetto. Many men and women survive and do well. Most black poor ppl dont get killed nor go to jail. Bad news and narratives travel and make news.
He compared drill music to acting bro
He high for that 😂
@@bezbthatdude4558 nah he didn’t bro. The example he was making was that people love to see actual drill raps happen. He was basically saying they could just go watch a movie if they want to see it.
@@AericTV that’s not what he said my guy 👌
@@bezbthatdude4558 well that’s basically what I got from it. he was just saying that it’s not real at the end of the day
“I have gang member friends!” 🤣😂
Yeah how proud was he to declare that lol, fuckin cornball.
I don’t care how many people see this video, it won’t be enough. THESE GANGS DON’T GIVE AF ABOUT YOU.
Personally growing up in The Bronx during the rise of bloods and crips. I was disappointed in the 5 boroughs. Bloods and crips was a Cali thing NY was known for clicks and crews. people had pride in checking anyone who was not from your block:what block you from? Someone saying nah he good he’s from such and such block was a form of validation. Than 031 popped up October 31st you had to be on full alert and make sure you didn’t catch a buck 50 for no reason. Sliced in the face. I’m not a street dude and I’m not a sucka I hated the mental trauma that ish caused. I would wear red because i was told i couldn’t wear red are you insane this is NYC
Back when this whole blood and crip thing was really catching on, I remember school being empty af one Halloween. The rumor was the bloods was gonna be up at my HS slicing ppl. I tried to get out of going to school that day, and my parents was NOT having it! I went to school that day and nothing happened. People was saying they went to another HS not too far away. So I ran into my homeboy that afternoon (we used to take the train home together) who went to that HS and I asked him about was school crazy for him. He said no because ppl at his school was saying the Bloods decided to go to my school instead 🤣🤣🤣🤣
yea man.. definitely remember those days. I used to go to I.S.184 & the gangs were brewing/coming up. ñetas, zulu, kings, bloods, & crips. then I remember when ddp came around way before trinitarios now but I remember ddp coming to my school to recruit people but my school had a lot of bloods. I used to watch the news people getting sliced for wearing red & I honestly was not feeling that at all. I remember digging deeper and learning more of the "gang culture" I guess you could say & ended up becoming a Crip after realizing those were the bloods enemies. funny thing is we went to my grandmother's house every other day & the area she lived in were all crips but back in those days crips were quiet. we weren't LOUD like the bloods were so people didn't even suspect anything all they saw was blue. I lost a few "friends" cause they were bloods but I never liked or wanted to join them especially didn't like the way they were moving & doing things. I will never forget the next day I walked into school with a blue durag & everybody looking at me like I was crazy but my mentality was "F*** them" long story short I may not be proud of where this life took me but I have learned a lot in my journey. 💙 all I tell my locs & fellow new yorkers stay safe out there.. there's more to life than just "the block" expand your mind.
I never thought the gang banging would come to New York.....
*it's disgraceful!!!*
What?
@@Dreaaddy what you don't understand?
First of all the city moves to fast and most NYERS have family in every borough, how you going tell me I can't go on a certain block.
PEOPLE LISTEN. It has become a problem because the issue is that we
GLORIFY AND PROMOTE IT AND SALUTE IT AND ACCEPT THIS BS. How in the world is it that the Famous, popular and most wealthiest rap artist are so called claiming to be apart or affiliated with GANGS, GANGBANGING!! WHAT DO WE THINK WAS GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN YOU POPULARIZE...BUFFOONERY! WHAT IS OUR INFATUATION WITH GLORIFYING GANGSTERISM, THUGISM, GANG BANGING, CANCEL ALL THAT BS!
Crips and Bloods spread throughout most of the country
My generation set this up for failure!!! In the 90's; we said as a hip hop community that you couldn't speak on certain things unless you actually lived the life. That turned into what we have now. Rap artist living the 'life' out in the open...smh. Just to say they keeping it 💯
Facts!
That little snippet before thuggish ruggish bone when the lady was giving a speech against gansta rap. As much flack and protest that mindset got she was right and so where all the old heads against gangsta rap.
That shit has had a terrible impact all around on the community and mindset. Certain things still would’ve went on but the music influenced and intensified it times 10
Truth
bro I'm 45 years old and I've been writing music since 1989. this was definitely the case everything you f****** said. just like he set up here in the video these kids play it like it's Grand Theft Auto. which I think that game ruined a lot of Minds
You wrong. The welfare system is responsible. Super masculine,ultra aggressive, I don't need no man women are responsible.
Single father homes and two parent homes don't produce these losers, only single mother homes.
It’s so crazy how shit flipped. Back in the day the goal was to get rich and leave to go to a better area. Now niggas get some money and never leave. Math addressed this in the video, and so many young niggas stay in this dumb cycle
Every man is responsible for his own actions, don't put that on that man. It's easy to blame someone else for your mental lapse
Havoc from Mobb Deep made that a thing with his line on Survival of the Fittest
PEOPLE LISTEN. It has become a problem because the issue is that we
GLORIFY AND PROMOTE IT AND SALUTE IT AND ACCEPT THIS BS. How in the world is it that the Famous, popular and most wealthiest rap artist are so called claiming to be apart or affiliated with GANGS, GANGBANGING!! WHAT DO WE THINK WAS GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN YOU POPULARIZE...BUFFOONERY! WHAT IS OUR INFATUATION WITH GLORIFYING GANGSTERISM, THUGISM, GANG BANGING, CANCEL ALL THAT BS!
As a New Yorker… ima just say… that shit can’t get out back in the bottle now… we tried for a sec, but it’s too far gone. It will be a miracle if there are ever no more Bloods and Crips in NYC. It is too prevalent!! And honestly they’ve been here too long at this point. Kids have parents and grandparents that are Bloods here now. And NYC gets a lot of heat for it, but these gangs are all over Atlanta, Miami, New Orleans, Memphis, everywhere now and it’s a shame
Do you think that if the brothers in Rikers in 1993 would've called themselves any other name besides blood that there would've been a major crip presence in NYC? Blood and crip are natural rivals. If the brothers would've called themselves Black Power or something like that, I really don't think that it would've been a major crip presence to go against them. But as soon as you call yourself blood, it's like it's guaranteed you're gonna have crips.
@@al5603 sure… one eventually gives way and opens a lane for the other… that’s probably true for all areas, not just NYC
LA ain’t the only place in California that has gangs. Also there are black gnags in California who aren’t bloods or crips like the Hoover criminals or the black rag mafia gangs in the inland empire. You got the aryan brother hood , Mexican mafia surenos umbrella Nortenos, nuestra familia, Fresno bulldogs ms13 then all the Hispanics gangs in cities in so cal. LA ain’t even the most dangerous city ain’t even top 10 in Cali.
That is facts for whatever reason only NYC catches flack for biting those gangs.
Get another Giuliani 💯
I was born and raised in Brooklyn. Born in '83 and grew up in the '90s. What Math said at the end of this clip about Bloods and Crips are spot on, and this is why I tell people that NYC is not a gang city like LA or Chicago. You could be Blood and have a whole set behind you in New York, but street politics and culture don't fully subscribe to deep-rooted gang affiliation. You didn't NEED to be Blood or Crip if you had enough street pull, whereas it seems like in LA or Chicago it's so engrained in their culture that you practically cannot survive without joining a gang. For regular people like me, Bloods and Crips blowing up in NYC in the '90s meant that I was going to lose an altercation immediately if I got into beef with a gang member. But certain people who lived the street life would look down on gang affiliation, almost like it was embarrassing to be in a gang. Math just comes from that era where NYC authenticity was still prevalent. Aside from Freeway Ricky, you seldom hear of people from LA who were able to make moves without being part of some sort of gang.
In NYC, gangs are part of our street history, even before Bloods, Crips and Latin Kings. In Chicago and LA, gangs are at the forefront street life history and politics. One is not better or worse than the other, that's just the way it is.
Freeway definitely has an affiliation to a particular neighborhood that claims him as well
Freeway grew up in a neighborhood that was crip even though he wasn’t
Damn
New York been a gang city. The Warriors was made in the 70s. What year did the movies Colors come out? Stop trolling NY Crips n Bloods and say it to the faces
1. Freeway Ricky was never in a gang. That’s why I pointed out he was an exception.
2. I never once typed that NYC didn’t have gangs. I’m aware of everything from The Warriors to Lo Lives, Decepticons, 5 percenters, and other organic home grown NYC gangs. My point is that you did not NEED to be in a gang to survive. Almost all street politics in LA and Chicago are somehow connected to gangs. It is not like that in NYC. Sometimes gangs are involved, and sometimes they are not.
In LA and Chicago, you practically NEED to be in a gang to survive. If you are having trouble understanding that then either your reading comprehension skills are not at the same level as my initial comment or you are just not familiar with how deep rooted gang culture is in Southern California and Chicago.
Again, I never typed that there are NO gangs in NYC. There are gangs everywhere. But NYC is not a gang city like LA and Chicago. Not sure why that’s so difficult to understand.
“Giving up much love/dyin for a street that they ain’t never heard of”- Ice Cube
Math hit it right on the head..It is society.This society is violent from the movies to the music...We thrive off of violence as humans in general.These young kids are just a by product of that.
No. N---@ciety violent. Boise Idaho ain't got drive bys. Mfs in Greenwich Connecticut aint duckin carjackings and stray bullets
No
You mean black humans
@@toddianuzzi9296 nope,white person...Humans in general
@@toddianuzzi9296 so all of the white males that are involved in mass shootings aren't violent?
Yo! Math just echoed what was going on in nyc 97/98.. I was asking those same questions, like yo what is you doing? And would get those wild explanations . Crazy
To be honest being from Cali (South Central) I've always been more of a New York fan regarding the music.
I was always attracted to NY slang, the NY accent, the NY rap style, the scenery from what I've seen in music videos and movies with the snow and big tall buildings.
Throughout my childhood and teen years I always wanted to go to NY because of its distinction from CA.
I know Cali shit, seen CA shit, lived and talked that Cali shit so the last thing I want to be reminded of is more Cali shit somewhere else.
The reason why classic NY rap is my favorite NY rap is because niggas like Biggie, Jay Z, Nas, 50 Cent, Jadakiss etc gave us that true NY culture with the timbs, big puffy jackets, and that authentic east coast hustler vibe.
I say all this to say I think this modern NY-version of Cali, shit is weak ass fuck.
I'm no longer interested in visiting NY no more because that shit watered down.
When I go to Brooklyn I wanna experience that organic classic NY hood shit not a Brooklyn-version of Compton, that's borin.
I'll just stay my ass in Compton CA if I wanna see Compton.
The Crip and Blood shit will only look good on Cali niggas because we were the ones who organically originated the culture.
Let some Cali niggas try copying down south niggas puttin grillz all in our mouths and shit we'll look goofy ass fuck because that ain't our natural swagg that's for them Houston niggas or New Orleans niggas.
Differentiation is a beautiful thing don't fuck it up with imitation.
You 💯 correct my man! Love nyc culture and how you unique it once was! The music changed with the street b.s wanna beez! The gang element coming out of Cali start it off for totally different reasons than the way it did in NY! It's like a trend thing going out there and it stole from its hip hop culture drastically. Rap is boring now unless you dig in the crates.
@@shitizreelshitizreel3848
All I do 99% of the time is dig in the crates with all my music.
I'm from Brooklyn and I agree 100% with what you said & what Math said.
Now when I did come out to LA , actually passed thru Greenleaf,
When I was in Hawthorne
I actually was surprised at how many Mexicans were out there. I knew there was alot but it was even more than I thought definitely the biggest thing I remember
@@gangsaretheblackkkk6291
Mexicans definitely and unfortunately taken over the West Coast bruh.
Black folks are severely outnumbered it ain't shit like the East Coast or the South we the minority like a mf.
Mexico is right next door they aid together culturally.
They're extremely racist and basically reproducing Mexico here.
Gentrification by the White folks is crushin southern Black Californians more of us are relocating to other areas outside of Los Angeles County like the I.E (Inland Empire) counties like Riverside and San Bernardino.
San Bernardino is new L.A in terms of all that traditional Cali hood shit.
I wanna know about the Puerto Rican situation out there in New York tho.
I use to live in Florida so I have slight experience of that East Coast energy
The world is small now and everybody easily influencing each other so there’s less regional distinction culturally
I agree with Math. Gang banging was always dumb af to me. I gotta beef with these dudes I don't know, repping a color or block I'm not from and die or go to jail over a gang who was never after my best interest. Hell nah
How is that any different than being in the army and fighting ppl u don't know, in a country you know nothing about ,all in the name of??? FREEDOM?? 🧢🧢
@@JayStonez84
I don't agree with black ppl serving in the military either. But AT LEAST the military gives benefits to the family if you pass
@@JayStonez84 Don’t ever compare the military to that ignorant shit
@@youngnixx88788 Dumbest shit ever
Damn...
Peewee longways interview is the poster child of how to do a rap interview 😂😂😂
😁 nah..
@@yungsammysosa6201 ha
I just like the color my boi it's bluetiful 🤣🤣
Facts Math💯I remember my first bid 18 and you knew dudes wasnt built like that just actin tough because they joined either crip or blood for protection. A few were thorough but most was just followers. Most of them had a battery put in they back to so call put in work with dudes they knew were lesser equals to them, they knew who to bounce on and who to fall back on. But you get more respect staying nuetral and speak to your character and manhood when you stand alone tough as oppose to with a crowd tough💯👊🏿
I was born & raised in Brooklyn NY and spend some time in queens, and in the late 80s & though out the 90s we were dealers, robbers and players in the 70s there were gangs but they died out, we had the 5 percent nation and the Deceps, Anything after that was jacking other city's shit and that's where NY went left...💯 The Latin kings had a strong hold until the bloods starting Reppin.
Word, finally a nigga really explained the feelings of real dudes on the East Coast about the onset of Blood’s and Crips .
It was the youth, the kids jumping on the bandwagon.
Til this day a lot of solid older dudes still don’t fuck with it.
This ain’t Cali…
Not east coast cause niggas from Cali establish the hoods in jersey in fact jersey is the like only place outside of L.A that have ties to the hoods that’s why niggas from Cali don’t say shit about jersey cause they introduced us to the gang culture New York just hop on
That line remind me of when that rapper Big L said "This aint cali, its Harlem nigga we do walkby`s"
@@jerseyboyantbrooks2824 In terms of the Bloods yes
@@elijahstraight402 exactly so people need to stop comparing New York to New Jersey
@@jerseyboyantbrooks2824 jersey never had hood crews before Cali dudes talked dudes into bangin they culture?(ny has some connected LA blood & crip sets...more so on the crip sets where as the blood sht is more homegrown to point alotta dudes say they fake)..end of the day real or fake alotta dudes say it's wack because we(ny'ers) had our own culture...
That last part though! "You reppin a block that you NEVER stood on!" BARZ!!! Jay Z said it best. "Never thought I'd see the day when N.Y. would gang bang." Smh
Math is a real one ! Respect and salute .
Smartest interview posted on vlad. Props to hoff
"All of sudden we got crip n bloods, DT's rumning around quick to split your mug"
Nas; NY State of Mind Pt 2, I Am album 1999
Irony is vlad you talk about Nas being a bad beat picker and he rapped about this 23 years ago and its still relevant
That's not irony though
NY Set Tripping and Flagging Got The West Coast Laughing Now Esco’s Asking What Happened- Nas “Let There Be Light” Feat. Tre Williams Album - Hiphop Is Dead
What does being a bad beat picker have to do with lyrics ?
@@jjrr330jj Because the god spoke about this years ago and it went overlooked that line is from 1999
@@PapiStorz He consistent bro🔥💯
Word, H., is speaking facts. I grew up in Far Rock where it was crews, and projects. The gangs were local. Scramblers, lost boys, 5% god bodies, Deceptacons, ethnic crews (Jamaicans, Haitians, Guyanese, Latin kings). That bloods and crips thing was so foreign to us.
Latin Kings came from Chicago was they foreign too?
@@piyesankara890 Kings history in NY is the interesting. It’s older than what people realize, and it’s not as connected to Chicago as most would believe.
@@godofthisshit Bloods and Crips in LA are scared of Mexican gangs, NYC Bloods won their war against the Latin Kings
@@godofthisshit damn
@@piyesankara890 I get what H is talkin about in regards to bloods and crips you legit got people jackin specific streets from Cali you got people talking about they Rolling 60s they 9trey they 8tre that’s the weird shit he talking about Latin King was a more structured organization not specific to certain hoods or streets if that makes any sense
NYC is nothing but immigrants. I use to visit my Grandmother in Queens she lived on Jamaica Ave that whole area is filled with nothing but immigrants. NYC has really lost its culture. I think once FBA’s started moving out of the city and headed back down south the soul left with it. I went to NYC in February for my birthday and the shit just doesn’t feel like NYC back in the 80’s or 90’s the vibe is just wayyy different and I’m from DC saying this 💯
Exactly! When you look at the most popular rappers from NYC over the past 10 years: Bobby Shmurda, 69, Cardi B, Nikki, Pop Smoke, C.J., Rowdy Rebel, Casanova, etc. they're all of Caribbean descent. As you mentioned a LOT of native Blacks moved down south over the years.
Tell em
You always had that though
@@al5603You forgot Biggie, Fat Joe, Big Pun, Busta Rhymes, Kid from Kid N' Play to name a few.
Its always been mixed cultures in NYC?
Isn’t Tray Deee coming back on this channel?
#1 you are extremely random #2 just out of nowhere, “hey where’s tray dee?” #3 tray dee is dead #4 don’t speak to me
Hell naw
Ever since Vlad made them comments about Farrakhan a lot of guess stop fucking with Vlad
@@MrSuSp7 which is dumb as hell cause Vlad still uses the NOI for security. He handled it behind the scenes but Jamar wanted him to do it live. Jamar and Godfrey dropped the back. Jamar is sadly off the grid since. He dropped the bag. But Tray Dee and Vlad are still cool. If not Vlad wouldn’t utter his name like Mysonne, Godfrey, and Jamar
@@MrSuSp7 damn
Big Facts!!! 💯 Math said some real shit right there in the end when he talked about young dudes following Cali Gang culture. It was really weird to see smdh
Maff hoffa is an intelligent dude. Hes made mistakes but he was able to learn from his mistakes earlier than most people do. Like he said the problem will never stop because its our society in general. There will always be more sheep in society in general than leaders, and thats why its vital to have balance in society, along with more leaders to wake up a lot of those sheep and nourish the lost souls. If we continue going down this same route where quick fixes, violence, and pleasure overshadows being self sufficient as well as educated us as a society will fail in the long run. I was one lf those people growing up in the 80s and 90s who was fascinated by violence, gangs, and even their urban style. I wasnt peer pressured to do nothing nor did i ever get locked up, but i can admit to a certain degree the negative aspect hiphop had a level of influence. But luckily i grew up in an era where there was not only balance in music, but also a lot of positige role models. We control our own destiny but if youre conditioned in a certain negative enviroment only a few will be able to change their circumstances mentally the rest will get influence by it thats just life. Now we are dealing with a totally new era where there is no balance and now this era is adopting the negative aspect mostly of the 90s which was the first era to embrace it in abundance despite out balance. Now as a old head it kind of makes me feel like and accomplice because we helped pave the way for the negativity today.
Na he sounds intelligent to dumb people
Math is actually a smart guy. I used to think he was just a goon going around punching battle rappers
I say this all the time specifically with bloods in ny can't really speak on crips because every hood I lived in ny was all blood but 95-96% of dudes was cornballs..the solid dudes who happened to be with it seemed to be in they own lane & was focused more on things outside of bangin
That's mainly how it go too, the ones who give a bad rep usually the bitches n the real ones really be on real life/family time
Math is right, We as a people should look out for each other rather than chase the views
so they can continue to do harm to us civilians and our kids?
Yeah cause glad be doing that shit too
Never liked Hoffa after the sucker punch but the shit he said about gangs is spot on. The Baltimore I grew up in did not prescribe to gangs and it was literally wherever you lived that’s who you rolled with. Bmore was heavy on the don’t be a follower and be yourself, even if you a nerd stay in your lane and we respect it.
Y’all need to bring back the Savage Nomads, spades and Skulls lol
I'm soo feeling my guy on this one. When I got out and saw cats "banging" I knew it was a rap.
Math the most sensable Vlad guest ever!!!
i’m glad Math said this publicly, i always thought Bloods n Crips in NYC/Jersey was a corny ass look..especially with them recruiting all the weirdos and crash dummies … NYC had they’re OWN gangs/ crews.. never understood WHY they were so hellbent on becoming followers of other cities…
LA Bloods and Crips are scared of Mexican gangs, NYC Bloods won their war against the Latin Kings
That's crazy
You ain’t lying that shit homo as hell
Facts
You talk like this in the streets? Or just online😂🤣
It's not society, it's culture 💯
Maybe
Maybe both....if guys are joining out of neglect or need of belonging it's society.
American culture is an armed one.
Human culture is violent.
The man with the gun conquered the world.
Took the Americas and enslaved ppl.
The gun.
California and Chicago culture
Math hoffa is right gang banging doesn't belong on the east coast period💯
Crip 4 life BK all day 🗽peace to Medina 💙❤
Stop saying east coast cause New Jersey the only place outside of L.A where actually bloods and crips established hoods in jersey in fact New York got it from jersey it’s a connection with jersey and Cali so can’t say east coast you mean New York
@@jerseyboyantbrooks2824 ny did not not get crip and blood from Jersey
@@terryjohnson8373 yes they did In jersey it was Niggas already on that it was bloods first New York Niggas just made up their own thing
Vlad: I HAVE GANG MEMBER FRIENDS… a FeW mOmEnTs LaTeR…. I’m a civilian, I’ll snitch!!
I almost became one of those suckers I remember being in NJ Morristown jail waiting on my court case me and this this dude from New York that became close and he was a blood and he asked me to become one he even took the time out to write out the oath which I was to sign.. the writing was in all red I'll never forget that day
Ayo its established that Vlad officially has gangsta friends starting from now since he established it himself.
🤣😂🤣😂🤣
This SHOCKED me seeing New Yorkers Brothers, respect Crip & Bloods. I've been in L.A. 32 years. S Central has been finished since the 60's.
What do you mean finished???
@@EricOWilliam no hope of ever turning back
S. Central getting gentrified
@@EricOWilliam it's finished. Especially if you are black. Black people literally have no real general business in L.A.. The voting power has dwindle to literally begging and anyone who tries at this point to change itt are blocked by the city or has been killed by their own.
@@rayhunt6696 not the eastside the westside is
50 cent said it best on guess who’s back mixtape “nixxas don’t set trends,they just hop on dxcks that’s why they bloods and crips now” Smh
Damn
50 What Up Gangsta was about NY C's n B's(2003). NY still set trends. Crips started in 1969(Bloods 75). It hit NY(so what). Hip Hop hit LA also. The Eses wasn't messing with it(they on it now)
Vlad said I have Gang member Friends ahh cmon with it Vlad smh....
"Nigga repp'in a block they never stood on" Realist shit he said FR!
Aye boooy! I’ll apologize now… I thought way too soon about Hoffa. I didn’t like him for a while but he’s a real, real one. My man’s really for our people. That’s true love for hip hop/ rap…
I know a few of us were like "He must not know Tray Dee" for a second there.
Super facts!! Saw a lot of dudes that had no ties to the streets run to the gangs and become overnight gangsters. Could not believe New Yorkers was really claiming California gangs. Thought it would fade out but here we are decades later and it’s still rocking so 🤷🏽♂️
I'm from Michigan an we have NY gangs out here
As a dude born and raised in NYC i cant stand it!!! The NY that im from originated shit. We never copied. We respected the gang culture in other states but that just wasn't our wave. Now our young men are dying and doing football numbers in jail over some shit they know nothing about.
Now every state is mimicking Chicago drill culture , it’s just a cycle , couple years it’ll be something different. But the 90s for sure belonged to La gang culture
It’s not going anywhere…. NY gets heat for it but these gangs are all over the south and Midwest too now! NY actually probably has some of the older Blood sets outside of Cali at this point. Kids have parents and grandparents that are Bloods and Crips. So me and you might think it’s new and odd, but if you are 15 and in the Bronx you are like “wtf are you talking about? There have always been Bloods on my block, this isn’t new”
it’s hear now
That’s why here in DC that gangbanging shit is not respected niggas live vicariously through the title of being a Blood/Crip to turn them up
In the wise words of the beloved,
“Be safe tho” - Taxstone
Lets gooooo. Love seeing Math get shine
“We should protect each other, Instead of saying oh yeah this is gonna get views” you see it everyday all people want is the “likes”
4:57 Vlad saying that like that's the point smh. I'm 39 and it's funny as soon as I was transferred out of a Queens private school in '95 to one in Long Island, I heard about Crips and Bloods being mentioned in NYC some of my former classmates even joined. Since then, it seems NY hip hop music transitioned from being diverse in sound and originality to the darker,misogynistic style I guess to reflect what was going on in the streets(from Biggie and Mase to Ruff Ryders and Dipset)
I mean slick rick had a song called treat her like a prostitute in the 80s lol
@@royals080 Slick Rick was an inspiration for a lot of artists after him on East and West Coasts
@@royals080 hey pimps were around since forever. Rick just created an ode to them I guess
Oh that I know ...his rhyme style and pattern was the foundation for sure but I'm saying the gangs from the West Coast and Chicago was the foundation of groups like Dipset
For sure!! His cadence and his flow definitely inspired SNOOP big time
The message will EVENTUALLY be heard loud and clear .
If a bang, bang, bang ain't loud and clear enough, then what is.
Salute to Tray Deee!! Haven’t seen him on Vlad in a while
Just Did 2000 Burpees 🤣🤣
@@benmode1894 😂 😂 😂 right
“Expressing themselves on civilians”
Trust me when i tell yall that la bloods and crips do not take ny members serious they look at them as posers trust out of state bloods and crips get laughed at over here in cali on god.
I’m from Far Rockaway Queens..We all was kids..Most kids don’t see that far..The problem my era have is it’s not as tough now as it was our era…2020 it’s was 450 murders .In 1990 it 2000…With no cameras..In there’s times our kids are graduating from high school at a better clip and also college…These are not the worst of times..It’s the worst of coverage..
I RESPECT MATH 💯
Math is speaking the Gospel. I can't stand when people copy cat. Especially grown men like Lil Wayne and Birdman
Vlad don’t like people saying he trap people in interviews but he going out his way to say Nick did it 😂😂😂😂
Math was heated the whole tjme
I’m from North Carolina, I feel the same way about folks who bang down here. If you’re not from those blocks, you 🧢. Rep where you from. No need to bang, just keep it G.
It because All these California dudes n Chicago dudes come down here n set up shop . Lot of these gangs have ties to California
Whether you want to call it gang banging, block banging, street crews or drug gangs, NY would have been something anyway, I mean look at the Bronx going all the way back to the 80s. If it wasn't blood or crip in NY, it would have been something under other names doing the same things.
This is true, however it makes no sense to claim something from a place you never seen or been too.
But it would be something from NY not from California
Math Hoffa speaking str8 facts on the culture wit this one
Math is 💯 for this one. Gangs for most dudes are for cowards man. Who need protection. A very small percentage might join because they don’t have that family feeling at home. But most are just scared. Almost all end up dead or in jail though
Damn
Is the USA “scared “ when they war with their rivals? Were they scared when they conquered/enslaved your ancestors ? Structure and unity under a common cause equals power.
@@kmonger I’m talking about individuals. Not the country. If you want to discuss that we can. But I’m not going to deviate from the topic that was discussed
@@charliecheetah4654 The ''country'' is a gang. It has founders. Colors. A written constitution. And a history of criminal behavior (white supremacy). It's territory was taken by force. And it wages war on it's enemies. What is the difference between them and these gangs you speak of?
So black men are supposed to be individualistic? Ironically our lack of structure and tribal/individualistic mentality allowed us to be conquered by a more organized people.
Math is being so honest and factual about that time in NYC…. I’m in the South Bronx and it was the same way. All the lames became Blood and 10 years later they were big homies, but like I tell the young Bulls your big homie is probably my little man 💯🦾 In my neighborhood all the gangs have a few dudes repping them, but the real power comes from the business men not them 🤫💯🦾
New York is the Mecca of hip hop I’m really disappointed with how they are trynna take the drill sound from
Chicago
You mad cuz NY do it better. Drill Is Hip Hop music
@@jknumber5138 🤣🤣 why would I be mad about that? New York needs to stick to there original sound because copying off Chicago is kinda lame
@@jknumber5138 and drill is killing hip hop if we’re being honest
@@Jonathanfifer00 What sound is that? Hardcore Hip Hop is drill music now. That's NY sound, Hardcore Hip Hop and plenty more sounds. It's about the music(good or bad). Stop hating. I bet if NY drill had weak music and no NY swag to it, you wouldn't be talking. The whole world does NY drill now💙🗽❤ and getting sturdy
@@jknumber5138 the whole world does Ny drill? Drill didn’t start in NY genius it started in Chicago and NY copied it , nobody is hating on NY bro I clearly said ny is the Mecca of hip hop and the sound I mean is the classic NY style of music. Like jay z and stuff like that
Wearing a wire comment look like it caught math off guard😂😂
Fathers raise your sons. Men who have strong father figures in their lives have no need to find brotherhood in the streets.
For the 2nd, 3rd and 4th generation gangsters, your life, your choice. For the civilians, get over your daddy issues and stay the fuck off the streets.
Powerful comment 💪🏾
Gangs have always been around the problem is the "CAMERA'S" haven't
“Gangs of New York , a lot of soft niggas signed up” -Kiss
What's the name of that song
Kiss got made C's from YO in his videos
@@jknumber5138 you really under every comment bruh is it that serious or you bored
@@yourwifesfavoritebull9216 every comment talking(I talk bacc). You everywhere to(you just know me). I still don't know you
I'm from L.A. and I always thought the same thing... I couldn't see dudes out here banging a Idaho gang 🤷🏾♂️
Don't y'all have Black P Stones? That's a Chicago gang. Don't y'all have Harlem 30 Crips? Why y'all claiming a neighborhood 3000 miles away?
we gotta talk more about this nyc bloods and crips shit, cause i feel like this drill shit gonna be just like it.
Wym ?
@@terryjohnson8373 i mean stop these copy cats in nyc, and create our own movement, atleast something more righteous.
@@believe12ofwhatyousee68 bro you can’t because dudes from California set up that shot here
@@Imjustbored2023 where at ? what boro L.a dudes set up shop at? lies, ny dudes are just copy cats, its meanly you immigrants tho y'all don't have no choice but to copy no culture having asses.
He’s not lying. I’ve seen a few dude that used to get smacked around throwing up sets. There is power in numbers.
Tray Dee is Super Crip
GIGA crip
Grandpa Krip
I've said it a dozen times, I'm a proud square/lame from a normal loving two parent home, something few ghetto people know anything about. Clearly, I'm not into this ghetto bastard culture, but damn it was nice to hear someone concerned enough to speak up about the new poison in the community. Willie Lynch and Thanos were right.
I respect math Hoffa. So much just for watching this little clip right here.. I never got that sucker shit..
That title applies everywhere....not just new york
Let em troll No Pork City
Math speaking factz about that blood stuff in NYC. That was the beginning of the end of NYC being the main trendsetters smh.
Still Trendsetters. Stop trolling that word and grow up🗽💙❤
Sort of like Ar Ab how Glad watched him get more and more intoxicated and say more and more incriminating things, like "I inherited my plug..." and putting it out, he could clip that. Just an example of what Math is saying.
Correct Vlad was like yeah nick just let that fall thru, foH u do that all the time
Damn
That’s not what got AB locked though or even close
@@ybaccount7549 u need your head examined if you think federal judges dont watch that crap before sentencing.
I remember around 01’ when regular number blocks turned red overnight it was crazy to me. I thought that it was just a fad and the niggas racing to get jumped in was corny as hell here we are 20 years later and kids is growing up over in it now. It still doesn’t make sense how fast it spread but I definitely would blame/credit movies and music cause after Dipset and The Game everybody wanted to be blood smh
That Certified Gangsta track set it off for all the cornballs and herbs to become gangbangas
@1:34 The problem is that once you do get the money yes you can go BUUUUUT the music that got you there is self destructive for the ones who didn't get the money. It's a cycle that has to be broken.....that's why its important to know and think wtf you saying in your songs and how ppl are receiving it... especially if these youngsters are idolizing these street "real" rappers.
Idk why ppl still try to brush this off like it's not part of the problem.
What’s crazy tho is they mostly Hispanic or Caribbean’s
I respect this brudda
Glad keeps throwing Nick under the bus. 😂😂😂
He right
Vlad thinks everybody is his friend 😆Traydee ain't yo friend like that
So when did he say that? Or direct me to that?
I bet Vlad never had his ''friend'' Tray Dee over at his house.
@@al5603 They talked about how Tre Dee comes by his house. Where y'all be getting this?
@@commoncentz3148 bruh you reaching for a argument take yo goofy ahh on. It's a thousand more comments to harass Lame!
@@memphislongway901Your sensitive Naive generation call it an argument. I'm speaking common sense which isn't common anymore. Sorry Lil longway
He's 100% right soft dudes from ny joined gangs
Gang bangers are a bunch of followers. Dying & killing over nothing. That shit is lame. Alot of good kids get influenced through the music. & that’s why I will try to keep my kids away from listening to it, cause that shit is poison for the mind. Everybody wants to be like these celebrities & be a bunch of followers, but the truth is they’re poisoning the mind of youngsters & making money off of it. Rappers make it cool to do drugs & kill, but when you look at their kids, most of them are on a straight path & keep them away from that shit. If these rappers would push the same positive message that they push on their own kids, I bet you alot of this drug using, gang banging, murder shit would stop. 💯
vlad should make math hoffa a regular guest from battle rapping and hip hop hoffa gives great insite
NY claiming L.A. gangs was the beginning of the end! They lost their identity! Shit is wack af! Nobody in the 80’s & 90’s could’ve predicted this!
Hahaha really wasn’t Latin kings a Chicago gang and they claimed it out there ..NEW YORK LOST THEIR IDENTITY ONCE GANSTA RAP GOT INTRODUCED CUZ THEY DIDNT KNOW WHAT TO DO ONCE REAL RAP GOT INTRODUCED CUZ THEY WERENT HOOD THEY WERE SUCKAS
@@views5663 smh
I agree, they should've left that shit in LA. New York was known for Hip Hop, Break Dancing, hustling and Mafia. Now you got these lame ass dudes claiming Cali gangs, with no LA ties
He ain’t lying, I lived in Syracuse and saw a lot of herbs trying to blood or crip. I remember this dude who had his red flag on getting reduced to tears because this dude was getting on him in class 🤣
Before the blood an crip thing, Syracuse had REAL GANGS! Small as that town is, niggas always been territorial
Nick ain't at fault. No one knows what exactly they'll use against you. Best practice is "quiet is kept" the streets know what it is, and interviewers KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY DOING.
But they really used his interview with Nick Cannon
@@deesee2051 that still doesn't make it Nick's fault
Vlad couldn't wait to pass blame like look it ain't just me look wht Nick did
@@knowledgeborn7867 yeah he been doing that ever since the day cas got arrested.
If y’all can blame Vlad for people getting arrested then Nick needs blame too. Simple. Can’t have it both ways
Stop The Violence - Hoffa 2022
I'm from the old NYC before Crack, cameras and the gangs... The 1980's and early 1990's were so different... NYC turned to fans of other cities gang cultures from Latin Kings, Bloods and Crips MS 13 all kind of b.s. that made us turn into followers instead of leaders smdh
Ok
Made us? Don't worry about the next man. Your a follower just like the rest
Facts...NYC fashion went from fancy bombers,Pelle Pelle and Avirex jackets to dudes wearing rags,biker jackets and pants sagging smh. Before the Bloods formed up heavy in Rikers in '93, Crips and Latin Kings were already in the streets. The attacks on civilians including slashings and stealing jackets and sneakers was a sick time in 90s
To be honest the source is this one world we are now living in with the internet, along with society. The internet magnified the glorification of street life and made it mainstream. Before the internet each region in the us was more distinct and seemed like another world. Yeah you can still tell the different from different regions of the us, but people are more likely to all adopt the same style and do the same thing as the rest of the nation now. It also makes time fly with all the distractions by the second. People had more time to perfect their craft back than, it was just a different world we grew up in and took for granted. despite the internets benefits i feel it has made us go backwards instead of forward as humans, but of course only by hindsight and wisdom the old heads will understand more since they are less brainwashed than the present generation. It a reoccuring cycle each generation.
MS13 in NY is the product of LA salvadorens fleeing deportation
I used to be proud of being from NYC