Still relevant bowsers best option he didn’t talk about however are the obnoxious command grab and the ledge trapping with forward tilt and flame. Also yeah one Ariel from bowser you can die despite it being Mac.
Zero: “The pro players actually rank Ganondorf as the worst heavy in Smash Ultimate. I don’t quite agree with that” Also Zero: loses first match of video with Ganondorf
0:12 Looking here, Charizard's real weight is 200lbs while Donkey Kong's real weight is 800lbs That's a huge gap from 116 to 127, I just wonder how the weighing system works
*Ike enters the game and recovers low* Incineroar: “It’s free real estate.” ....is what should’ve happened, but I guess ZeRo didn’t know about the Revenge cheese against Ike and Chrom’s recovery lol.
milancool milancool Down tilt is likely Incineroar’s best normal and one of his best moves. The move combos into other moves at both low and high %s, two frames, does like 10%, confirms into kill moves and, if I’m not mistaken, has invulnerability on his feet.
@@moke23 Basically make it like Cloud's up b where diving down is another button press. Imagine you do the first part of up b, then just continuously do side b, and when you're back on stage you do the second part of up b.
DK is underrated and he does well against some characters above him. I don’t think he’s as bad as people say. Like Zero said, he might have the best aerial game out of all the heavies
That's my thought. However, Leffen said something, which is true when you think about it. "DK has a lot of good things, but just go through all matchups and you realise that he loses almost all of them" I feel like this is so true which is kinda sad :3
Bowser: All around, solid neutral, and up B out of shield and best heavy with combo food being the only weakness. DK: Great edgeguarding and aerials but hard to come back in certain scenarios Ganon: Really fun to play as and also amazing at edgeguarding but easy to gimp. D3: One of the best ledgetrappers and the best recovery out of all the heavies but still struggles to land and has unsafe moves Charizard: Great out of shield options and kill power and versatile in PT’s character design K Rool: Easy to play, has projectiles, and bellly armor carries, but hard to get away from disadvantage Incineroar: Good damage, kill throws, and scary to fight with revenge. However, bad recovery and takes years to get to places
Although I am a D3 main, I do agree with many or the problems Dadledingo has, yes he is an amazing ledgetrapper, yes he has a godlike recovery, yes he is incredibly hard to kill, but although his aerials are good, they are very unsafe and he is very hard to land, mostly when you cancel your up-B right when you are on the ground which makes it SUPER punishable, the best he has is, again, his recovery, his ledgetrapping, and his kill power and raw percent power, but it is slow and big which makes him combo food and hard to catch up with others
@@hhhhhh-vi6sq Incineroar's recovery is actually not bad, I would say that its average. There are several characters like Ganondorf, Captain Falcon, Donkey Kong, Dr. Mario, Cloud, Ryu, Ken, Luigi, Roy, etc. who have worse recoveries then him.
@@staticshock4239 I secondary Cloud. Even with limit Cloud is still easier to gimp because of how linear his recovery is, all he can do is up b and at high level you'll get edgeguarded unless your timing is perfect.
Zero: except maybe F-Smash PJiggles: F-Smash is K. Rool’s worst move because Down Smash has more range, hits on both sides, and has nearly the same kill power
He doesn't know how to play incineroar and he messed up side b. He also didn't shield or use revenge reads. I don't think zero knows side b can be used to recover. Zero also used no tilts. Zero, if you're reading this practice your incineroar. You're too legendary for this. Maximize your chances. No disrespect bro.
@@willdg8108 I’d say K. Rool has an avarage dash speed, and the down throw to up tilt is a guaranteed hit if the opponent is above 100%, no matter how good they are at mashing.
I dont know why people dislike him so much, he is my favorite heavy and with those minor changes he would be godly, like the same treatment they gave bowswer from smash4 to ultimate
@Dont subscribe to me ofc getting everything buffed would completely change the character is played. But just having 1-2 of these would make Dedede much more playable. What I have the most problem with is when I make a read, use my forward smash way before my opponent, yet they just smash me first because their smash is instant, and kills me for it despite the late reaction. T^T sad life. I’ve only started playing last December but I’ve heard that they’ve both nerfed and buffed the character in certain aspects. But why are they even nerfing an already low tier character???
@I am Opafin well yes for the amount of damage it deals having DDD’s fsmash being instant like fast characters would be absolutely broken (straight to high tier lol). But still even having it come out slightly faster would make it much more viable in neutral. Yes, I’d prefer if his aerials were buffed and it’d also make much more sense that way but slightly buffing fsmash is still a viable option for the character if they can’t decide what to buff. Rn apart from a few exceptions where I make a read, I’m struggling to find a consistent and viable use for the fsmash apart from ledge trapping (in which case it’s a great option that kills super early). Also correct me if I’m wrong but did they nerf both fsmash’s and Gordo’s shield break?
0:50 The fact that he used Into the core for this Bowser section made me feel so good XD 1:38 Not to mention that he used Dogsong for the dog section we all asked for.
@@forex2893 I like how people thought he was mid tier at the start of the game. He got little to no buffs from smash 4. His smash attacks still suck and in return of it being a disjoint theyre actually laggier than in 4. Extremely easy to avoid
@@mostafaghannam5624 I dunno why people say stuff like this, yeah, you can master whoever you want and do well, but the idea that you can master Ganon and destroy top level players is pretty silly. Doing so would mean you are substantially better then the *best players in the world* not likely to happen. It's a good attitude to believe in your character, but taking it too far is just delusion. There's a reason Ganon sees no top level success, and it's not that no good players have tried.
it is clear that he is one of the worst incineroar players because he just doesnt play like an incin main . i can tell how good someone is with incin just by watching him play
Revenge is literally one of Incineroar's best moves. With revenge he can kill most characters early. Plus side b into up b makes his recovery decent since his up b has been getting buffed a lot.
He needs to make a updated version of this because I agree 6 months ago I rool has recieved buffs to add less end lag so I feel like he is way better now than 6 months ago
Also ZeRo when recovering with Incineroar a good way to recover is to use side b then double jump then up b if needed. His recovery is edgeguardable, but he can make it back mostly.
Zero played as incineroar and didn’t down-b or down-smash once. Those are two of his best moves and allows him to deal with very fast/ projectile-oriented characters. Ps. If zero played as incineroar for a week without the bias of “he’s bad at recovery and he’s slow” he would see that he can be overwhelming to most characters
True, but the "pros" will never see what DDD is truly capable of, they mainly focus on cons rather than pros. In fact, I believe that the tier list system was made from the perspectives of pro players who focus on which character can wombo-combo their opponents to death and are super speedy.
Also if you manage to land a few good solid hits on King K.’s stomach while the other player is sticking it out you can knock him into the stun state easily.
I like how whenever the doggo is on screen it plays that doggo music from undertale, but people won’t understand why he put that music if they haven’t heard of, seen it, or played it.
This is isn't related to the video but... who is faster? Byleth or Incineroar? And a thing that makes K. Rool bad is that you can use his crown to end him brutally.
In defense of Incineroar, his recovery is solid if you know how to use his side B and directional air Dodge to mix up recoveries. You could easily have avoided and punished that Neutral B ledge trap. You just gotta know when you mix it up 😁
Good video. My favorite thing was honestly your screen name. No camping. I focus on gatekeeping campers and laggers from farming GSP, so thanks for that.
@@willdg8108 if Revenge has the potential to do up to 3x the damage of a base attack I think it's pretty good. Have you seen how much damage a high %, Revenge charged Incineroar can do? It can 1 Hit KO Ganon.
Nin Sen yeah but landing revenge is the problem lol. The only consistent way to land it is to jank recoveries. It’s easy to read landing with revenge or spot dodge cancel revenge
the thing about Incin if you do 2 upgrades hes going to be called one of the best characters by some people in the game if he gets a good recovery, less lag and like a normal speed he be high tier and maybe the best
6:29 I can't believe that we live in a world where a remix of this song doesn't exist in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, let alone the song itself. 7:45 He actually does have a lot of low percent 3-attack combos and strings.
Might wanna main another character, despite ganondorf not being that bad, you aren't gonna get very far with him, maybe joker, pac-man, cloud, terry, even bowser are better picks
I mean, he has way too many problems to be better than the worst heavy. Forward smash just doesn’t hit people above him sometimes, people fall out of nair, up b doesn’t reach grounded opponents sometimes, landing fair doesn’t hit, bad recovery in general. He’s the undoubtedly worst heavy.
Tim Underwood Don't worry, ZeRo doesn't play competitively so he doesn't truly know the Smash Ultimate meta. He is a content creator now, not a Smash Ultimate competitor.
VCiPz You say that like that changes anything. King K. Rool is still trash in the competitive meta game. He is literally the second worst in the tier list.
Same, i just think he doesn't have experience with heavys, i would definitely say that he is not the worst The good thing is that i had some practice with the best smash player in my city and i know what i should and not do uwu
THE King K. Rool is my doubles main and the one I use to just get ppl mad! Rool on stage, down smash, boom! You got a stock. His blunderbuss with crown, such an outstanding edge guard, it you get the spacing right... which isn’t hard to do haha
Bowser: Heaviest heavy in the game. Fast on the ground and air.
Incineroar: Lightest heavy in the game. Literally the slowest character.
*Nice*
Not too slow in the air though.
Lightest Super Heavyweight in the game. He's still the 8th heaviest character.
I think plant should be counted
Ridley's just a bunch of bones lol
Word, *Nice Balancing* eh?
“That’s why Bowser so good, you do one aerial and they die”
*Opponent is Little Mac*
Little Mac DESPERATELY needs to go to the Air Force.
That’s the joke
BlueAngel_Daniel Mind me if it didn’t sound like a joke.
Greer its still true
Still relevant bowsers best option he didn’t talk about however are the obnoxious command grab and the ledge trapping with forward tilt and flame. Also yeah one Ariel from bowser you can die despite it being Mac.
Zero as Incineroar: Does not double jump to recover
Zero: Bad recovery
Being honest though it would be nice to buff aireal and recovery for him
SubjectDelta956 He could have also side-b'd
He probably didn't have his second jump. Tried using it to get out of the combo.
Or making the recovery like 1 up then jump and then cross at end so being able to cancel but the second time is chop
Didnt even use side b into up b either smh
11:13 I was actually that Inkling player. And yes, I did get angry because I was 100000% sure charging ink low profiles Charizard’s Flare Blitz.
And yes I spammed roller, wifi Inkling against heavies is one of the most stressful characters on WiFi he literally lived to like 170%.
I thought you were doing pretty well, at one point I even thought you might win!
I hate fighting heavies as Inkling too. It feels like they won’t die and you can only build up their rage.
Moe's As an inkling main, I can completely relate to this statement
Gitgud
Zero: “The pro players actually rank Ganondorf as the worst heavy in Smash Ultimate. I don’t quite agree with that” Also Zero: loses first match of video with Ganondorf
That match was a PowerPoint presentation, lul
he lost because he didnt use his smash attacks
And yet he was still biased in saying Ganondorf wasn't the worst, even though he lost, even though he plays Ganondorf more than those others.
Is falcon not a heavy in ultimate
I don't see it, I don't see the battle wth
That Snake didn't start taking Zero's K. Rool seriously until he was down a stock. Cuz that whole first stock, didn't see a single nade or Projectile
He respected his user name “no camping”
Cuz who wanna use their projectiles if King K can 1 shot it with 1 hit
@@SnuuySnuuyYou right, you right.
He didn’t even use a single gernade which is a sin for a snake main
Crappy Snake
Charizard slow on the ground
TENTH FASTEST DASHING SPEED
But ftlilt and down tilt are great
Leffen thinks that Charizard is the worst heavy in the game or the worst character in the game. Even worse than little mac
Raghav Patel what about his big aerials and huge and fast u smash
@@raghavpatel720 I genuinely don't know how Leffen could possibly think that. Little Mac is properly terrible. Trust me, it's rough maining him
JustFunKiro Charizard is combo food for characters like zero suit
Bowser 0:49
King K. Rool 2:16
Donkey Kong 4:34
King Dedede 6:30
Ganondorf 8:53
Pokemon Trainer (Charizard) 11:01
Incineroar 13:23
Ranking!!! 15:38
1st place: 15:49
2nd, 3rd and 4th place: 16:05
5th, 6th and 7th (worst) place: 16:58
Hope this helped everyone! :D
super helpful, thanks
Good job. Wish this was higher up so more could see it!
@@elibateman6139 More so that if I want to reference a certain character I can easily find it. Specifically, I wanted to reference K Rool and Bowser.
Ty!
Fun fact: K Rool does an entire fricking flip before stomping during his down air animation.
oh wow he actually does, but i couldn't see it until i slowed the clip down to 0.25x speed
JumJum
3:48
@@alexyanez8033 slow it down
@@colebonner138 I did
12:37, I love how leaf yelled "charizard" when he was buried, and screamed "nooo" when he was hit with f-smash
MD24 Clips that was sweet of her T-T
Zero: I honestly think that rool is the worst heavy in the game
Little Z fans: What did u say...?
sick fox YES. we and our beloved Croc know only the Nairo quote: “k Rool is top 15”
Little Z Fans: Nonexistent
Did you ever see Zero fight little Zs Krool and 3 stock him several times? And little z actually has a good Krool it's the character holding him back
@@rhapso9812 wtf
@@aidankeyes5526 yeh I have and that's not rly what ment
Saying Ganondorf could shine in that match, when you should know damn well Claude Byleth is super effective against crusty old bastards.
Doesn't ganon beat spacies?
Ganon debatably wins against doc, plant and lucario and that’s like it
Yes congratulations you're amazing that claude quote is the best
Tough talk from the guy who’s lived too long!
You sir , are a man of culture
Even if they’re not the best characters in Smash, we can all agree that they’re *EXTRA THICC*
hell yeah
Have you ever heard about Wii Fit Trainer?
Especially Dedede
Incineroar: I have abs
Jesus dude I mean I’m not complaining that I see you everywhere but it’s honestly incredible how much I see you
“Charizard is slow on the ground”
Charizard has overall the 9th fastest initial dash and run speed
Ikr
Charizard: **Flying type Pokémon**
Also Charizard: **Slow in the air**
Nice name
Charizard is super fast dude... he is 9th on ground, and one of the fastest in the air...
@@rayanpazgalvez3153 I thought Ridley was 9th
Zero: “K-rool doesn’t really have any kill setups or combos” K-rool: *down-throw*
Getting grabs in ultimate? Sounds like a dream
thats very easily mashable until 120
Its very easy to mash out of down G
*down tilt
Damien Evermore Lol true but he said that as he got a grab and used forward throw instead
0:12
Looking here, Charizard's real weight is 200lbs while Donkey Kong's real weight is 800lbs
That's a huge gap from 116 to 127, I just wonder how the weighing system works
game balance
My dad weighs more than Charizard XD
@@Sycholesent That's cause he ain't a dragon.
Edit: for context, they said their pops weighs more than a dragon.
You think that’s weird? Look up Mewtwo’s weight
BlackDot I think even though his typing isn’t a Dragon, he shouldn’t be that light.
*Ike enters the game and recovers low*
Incineroar: “It’s free real estate.”
....is what should’ve happened, but I guess ZeRo didn’t know about the Revenge cheese against Ike and Chrom’s recovery lol.
Also he never recovered high, which pissed me off because it's honestly safer than you would think
milancool milancool Down tilt is likely Incineroar’s best normal and one of his best moves. The move combos into other moves at both low and high %s, two frames, does like 10%, confirms into kill moves and, if I’m not mistaken, has invulnerability on his feet.
I feel like incin is so underrated. If they allowed for up b to be cancelled before going down he'd be way more popular
@@moke23 Basically make it like Cloud's up b where diving down is another button press. Imagine you do the first part of up b, then just continuously do side b, and when you're back on stage you do the second part of up b.
moke it depends on if he goes into free fall after tbh
Imagine beating zero, one of the best smash bros players of all time on smash online without even knowing it
*Little Mac goes off stage*
Every Mac Main: Good night, sweet prince.
1:50
Okay, if you can make a separate channel, just for Ruby, I'd support it
Fuck you lol
(Maybe i shouldn't change my username everytime)
@@gbc920 but we did so ok
Get a job xD
Get a JOB
DK is underrated and he does well against some characters above him. I don’t think he’s as bad as people say. Like Zero said, he might have the best aerial game out of all the heavies
German Azurin DK should have aerial drift on his up-b and it should have more height
German Azurin I don’t think DK is underrated AT ALL. All I see online are a bunch of DKs
German Azurin I agree honestly.
German Azurin
He also has the best combo and juggling game of all the Heavies while also having a terrible disadvantage, even by heavy standards.
That's my thought.
However, Leffen said something, which is true when you think about it.
"DK has a lot of good things, but just go through all matchups and you realise that he loses almost all of them"
I feel like this is so true which is kinda sad :3
Get's destoryed by Ike and Byleth.
Well we know ZeRo's true weakness Fire Emblem.
swords are the universal heavy's weakness
Fire emblem is everybody's weakness lmao
He likes their games too much
Isn't Ike a heavy?
Lol
Zero: “Charizard in general is slow, slow on the ground, slow in the air”
13 year old prodigy: Hold my Caprisun
Zero: Ganon isn’t that bad
Also Zero: *loses with Ganon*
So what dude
So
S A if one of the best players of all time loses to a random person then the character has problems
Iam if one of the best of all time loses to a rando then the character has problems
Black Luster Soldier or he doesn’t know how to play them?...
Bowser: All around, solid neutral, and up B out of shield and best heavy with combo food being the only weakness.
DK: Great edgeguarding and aerials but hard to come back in certain scenarios
Ganon: Really fun to play as and also amazing at edgeguarding but easy to gimp.
D3: One of the best ledgetrappers and the best recovery out of all the heavies but still struggles to land and has unsafe moves
Charizard: Great out of shield options and kill power and versatile in PT’s character design
K Rool: Easy to play, has projectiles, and bellly armor carries, but hard to get away from disadvantage
Incineroar: Good damage, kill throws, and scary to fight with revenge. However, bad recovery and takes years to get to places
I see that you've been doing your Homework.
Is Ridley not a heavy?
mr. Worldwide he’s lighter than samus
Although I am a D3 main, I do agree with many or the problems Dadledingo has, yes he is an amazing ledgetrapper, yes he has a godlike recovery, yes he is incredibly hard to kill, but although his aerials are good, they are very unsafe and he is very hard to land, mostly when you cancel your up-B right when you are on the ground which makes it SUPER punishable, the best he has is, again, his recovery, his ledgetrapping, and his kill power and raw percent power, but it is slow and big which makes him combo food and hard to catch up with others
Carlos E Murillo I hate that Dedede has ten years of lag when you cancel your Up B too late
Zero: Doesn't use side b or jump to combo into incineroar's cross chop. Yeah his recovery sucks lolol
Also he didn't pull Revenge out at all. Which is literally a swordfighter's nightmare.
i mean, his recovery does suck
@@hhhhhh-vi6sq Incineroar's recovery is actually not bad, I would say that its average. There are several characters like Ganondorf, Captain Falcon, Donkey Kong, Dr. Mario, Cloud, Ryu, Ken, Luigi, Roy, etc. who have worse recoveries then him.
@@williamspears1627 Cloud actively needs limit to recover. Without it I'd argue he's more gimpable then Incineroar.
@@staticshock4239 I secondary Cloud. Even with limit Cloud is still easier to gimp because of how linear his recovery is, all he can do is up b and at high level you'll get edgeguarded unless your timing is perfect.
Charizard the fastest heavy in the ground : zero “ he is kinda slow in the ground” thanks zero
Those statements aren't mutually exclusive. :P
HighLanderPony when directly comparing the speeds of charizard vs others of his archetype, yes they are mutually exclusive.
@@Ven-zg3fj He never said in comparison to those of his archetype, he's probably more or so comparing them to those outside of the archetype as well
Mark Turtle he’s comparing heavies against each other though
He's talking about frame data, not speed
"I'm playing a really good snake with donkey kong here."
It became one of his fastest wins in ultimate.
Remember the first few days of Smash Ultimate’s release when everyone thought King K. Rool was broken? Lmao
ShakenSoda he was actually so good but sakurai nerfed the f**k out of him
@@K.A.S399 what changed exactly ?
roronoa riku they reduced the duration of his canon and changed the hit box of his recovery and there’s more go and search about that
@@K.A.S399 oh ok thanks :)
Leonard Hutson just like little z said😂
Ur dog is gorgeous
Put “DOGGO” on the camera more pls
If he doesn’t record late. He recorded at nearly 3 am last time.
Dude stop, ur not funny, leave the dog to do it's own things instead of pressuring zero
Nicole Panacho what did I do I asked to put his dog on camera?
That shiba Inu was ready to bite zeros chorizo face. Lol. Learn about breeds, shibas can be assholes, very cat like.
@Jose Andres Elvir Avila nice 1 m8
The best heavy is 2018 ZeRo
Scandalous this is too true, had to be patched out by the end in smash 4 and now is not in ultimate
Make ZeRo top tier
They gave him a better neutral in month 6 patch
2018 ZeRo needs aerials
Skinny Zero got knee buffs recently
zero: king k rool doesn't have the strongest of moves
down smash: am I a joke to you
Zero: except maybe F-Smash
PJiggles: F-Smash is K. Rool’s worst move because Down Smash has more range, hits on both sides, and has nearly the same kill power
Will you guys stop with this comment format?
@@highverbaliq1785 no :)
No
Landing that attack at high-level play is almost impossible
He literally never used side B off stage to help recovery as Incineroar.
He doesn't know how to play incineroar and he messed up side b. He also didn't shield or use revenge reads. I don't think zero knows side b can be used to recover. Zero also used no tilts. Zero, if you're reading this practice your incineroar. You're too legendary for this. Maximize your chances. No disrespect bro.
@Stephen Garrett even with all of that Incineroar sucks booty
@@Valcore123 check the new patch sir
@Stephen Garrett oh you right. Checked it, and ohhhhh wait Incineroar still sucks
@@Valcore123 Any character that can kill at 0% is good no matter how you look at it.
Ridley: too big for Smash
Also Ridley: not even close to the heaviest in the game
I feel like ZeRo is underestimating King K. Rool. His cannon and crown are very forgiving and have little to no lag, and he didn’t use those all game
WhyRTheseNamesAllowed ? This has to be a joke
My 2nd best :(
King K
@@retrokingranch says the one with a k Rool picture
King K has such bad recovery
@@retrokingranch I'm wheezing!
K Rool’s down throw up tilt
* exists *
Zero: he doesn’t have any guaranteed kills
That’s not consistent lmao good mashers never get hit by that. Also grab is super hard to get as slow heavies
Megaman up tilt and incineroar up smash are better in killing.
@@willdg8108 I’d say K. Rool has an avarage dash speed, and the down throw to up tilt is a guaranteed hit if the opponent is above 100%, no matter how good they are at mashing.
Request to buff Dedede. Make his moves faster and reduce his end lag
I dont know why people dislike him so much, he is my favorite heavy and with those minor changes he would be godly, like the same treatment they gave bowswer from smash4 to ultimate
@Dont subscribe to me ofc getting everything buffed would completely change the character is played. But just having 1-2 of these would make Dedede much more playable. What I have the most problem with is when I make a read, use my forward smash way before my opponent, yet they just smash me first because their smash is instant, and kills me for it despite the late reaction. T^T sad life. I’ve only started playing last December but I’ve heard that they’ve both nerfed and buffed the character in certain aspects. But why are they even nerfing an already low tier character???
Yes buff his aerials and airspeed but fsmash is slow on purpose you know that right
@I am Opafin well yes for the amount of damage it deals having DDD’s fsmash being instant like fast characters would be absolutely broken (straight to high tier lol). But still even having it come out slightly faster would make it much more viable in neutral. Yes, I’d prefer if his aerials were buffed and it’d also make much more sense that way but slightly buffing fsmash is still a viable option for the character if they can’t decide what to buff. Rn apart from a few exceptions where I make a read, I’m struggling to find a consistent and viable use for the fsmash apart from ledge trapping (in which case it’s a great option that kills super early). Also correct me if I’m wrong but did they nerf both fsmash’s and Gordo’s shield break?
New idea: improve the hammer hit box EVEN MORE
When I heard "Ganon can shine." I thought we were back on project m lmao
@3:05 k rool has no kill set up?
You haven't played him long enough to find some kill set ups
Dair to UPair is so beautiful
Also crown,back air in to up air.Ben gold killed Samsora at 50 percent with that combo but he was at 100 so he had quite a lot of rage.
15:25
Use Incin double jump, use side B, and Angle up B... don’t judge a character based off only one recovery move. They are to be used in tandem
Maybeee he didn't have double jump, but with side b he would've recovered
Bailey West His recovery is still trash even with double jump and Side Special
@@angelmendez-rivera351 It's not... people just don't know how to use it.
Angel Mendez-Rivera It goes relatively far, it’s just easy to edgeguard. Same situation with K Rool and Bowser
Kemdizzzle *it's just easy to edgeguard*
...so then the recovery is absolute garbage. I MEAN what I said.
Charizard: 9th fastest run speed + above avg air speed with him being the fastest in the 2 categories for Pokémon trainer
Zero: He’s slow
He's referring to attack speed (frame data) not run speed.
Blue he said he was referring to movement
ZeRo"You can safely shield all of K. Rool's attacks"
K.Rool: I'm about to down smash this man's non existent carrier
What about his Battleship?
super kid tf
"charzard is slow in the air"
the fastest gen 1 starter, which is also a flying type
...the irony...
0:50 The fact that he used Into the core for this Bowser section made me feel so good XD
1:38 Not to mention that he used Dogsong for the dog section we all asked for.
@History gaming Thanks, I couldn't remember the name
Could you tell me where the song player during the bowser fight is from pls
History gaming thanks but i cant find it anywhere lol
Um, no, it’s “the grand finale”/“in the final”
Brian Geer thank you so much
I love playing Ganon, Wish he was higher in the tier list
He's fun til you take him to a tourney
Even though he isnt considered as the best in the game doesnt mean you cant master him and destroy top level players. Tier lists doesnt mean much.
Lol bottom 5 character
@@forex2893 I like how people thought he was mid tier at the start of the game. He got little to no buffs from smash 4. His smash attacks still suck and in return of it being a disjoint theyre actually laggier than in 4. Extremely easy to avoid
@@mostafaghannam5624 I dunno why people say stuff like this, yeah, you can master whoever you want and do well, but the idea that you can master Ganon and destroy top level players is pretty silly. Doing so would mean you are substantially better then the *best players in the world* not likely to happen.
It's a good attitude to believe in your character, but taking it too far is just delusion. There's a reason Ganon sees no top level success, and it's not that no good players have tried.
Zero Charizard isn’t slow at all. He’s the 9th fastest character on the ground.
Wich make sense, charizard is mid fast in pokemon
his good moves have some of the worst end-lag in the game, notably his aerials, especially b-air has smash 4 landing lag.
@@dddmemaybe I know. But Zero said, "he's slow on the ground." This is simply not true at all.
Zeros wrong about sheeit all the time. Like when he said prodigy was from socal
13:50 So uh, you could’ve used sibe b OR double jumped before the up b
it is clear that he is one of the worst incineroar players
because he just doesnt play like an incin main .
i can tell how good someone is with incin just by watching him play
his extra jump could’ve been eaten when trying to escape that combo, but it’s hard to tell. he still could’ve side-B’d tho
I don’t play Incineroar so I wouldn’t know, but does side-b cancel into ledge grab?
julian12465 yes it does
@@Sakaki98 yes , it does
Revenge is literally one of Incineroar's best moves. With revenge he can kill most characters early. Plus side b into up b makes his recovery decent since his up b has been getting buffed a lot.
He needs to make a updated version of this because I agree 6 months ago I rool has recieved buffs to add less end lag so I feel like he is way better now than 6 months ago
Did he not do something like this before? I remember him choosing the best heavy and it was R.O.B.
Jake Lagas that’s why he said this one is for SUPER heavies
Yeah he did.
Nice profile pic
@@Ian-mw6qk Ah thanks for clarifying.
12:38 that sounds like a documentary about heavy creaturs lol
And yet everyone thought that Dedede needed nerfs at one point
Are u Dedede main
I think you play a decent King K Rool, watching the Incineroar however was a bit cringy.
Also ZeRo when recovering with Incineroar a good way to recover is to use side b then double jump then up b if needed. His recovery is edgeguardable, but he can make it back mostly.
This video makes me want the Heavy Weapons Guy from TF2 in Smash
1:50 Ruby is so cute omg
I was legit watching around 8 zero videos and then I see an upload, I neeeeeeeed it 😂😂
Zero played as incineroar and didn’t down-b or down-smash once. Those are two of his best moves and allows him to deal with very fast/ projectile-oriented characters. Ps. If zero played as incineroar for a week without the bias of “he’s bad at recovery and he’s slow” he would see that he can be overwhelming to most characters
Preach
Dedede is a decent mid-tier, overlooked in many ways. Has some of the best zoning and ledgetrapping in the game. Also his edgeguards are very good.
True, but the "pros" will never see what DDD is truly capable of, they mainly focus on cons rather than pros. In fact, I believe that the tier list system was made from the perspectives of pro players who focus on which character can wombo-combo their opponents to death and are super speedy.
Before watching the video:
Its Zero Isn’t it?
Nathan Reign LMAO
Is that a Jarvis Johnson Shirt
Ikr
and they said infinity war was the most ambitious crossover
Also if you manage to land a few good solid hits on King K.’s stomach while the other player is sticking it out you can knock him into the stun state easily.
What about this video was so valuable to you that you put FOUR ads during it?!
I like how whenever the doggo is on screen it plays that doggo music from undertale, but people won’t understand why he put that music if they haven’t heard of, seen it, or played it.
WE NEED MORE DOGGO
17:41 Zaki had more to offer with Dedede than this guy you've showcased.
Zero kissing his dog is the most wholesome thing I've seen all week
This is isn't related to the video but... who is faster? Byleth or Incineroar?
And a thing that makes K. Rool bad is that you can use his crown to end him brutally.
When the dog goes on camera the undertale annoying dog theme plays. My life Is complete
zero: Does not double jump or use side b to recover
zero: Incineroar bad
Hopefully you have a speedy recovery after your surgery.
For a second I thought you were talking about recovering in the game but yeah true
Your dog looks like the doge meme, she's super cute
Except cuter
Mr. Jelly true
@@MrJelly-ox9mz true
In defense of Incineroar, his recovery is solid if you know how to use his side B and directional air Dodge to mix up recoveries. You could easily have avoided and punished that Neutral B ledge trap. You just gotta know when you mix it up 😁
Good video. My favorite thing was honestly your screen name.
No camping. I focus on gatekeeping campers and laggers from farming GSP, so thanks for that.
I can tell he doesn't play heavies much, at all.
Cuz heavies are the worst
@@schniblegrib4311 I will fight you on that.
@@Doughboy123x if someone thinks heavies are trash, they don't know how to use heavies
go win 53 tournaments in a row then you can act like you know better than him
@@spicy2492 was thinking the exact same thing lol
Zero, my boy. INCINEROAR HAS REVENGE. USE IT.
Krool has counter
@@IAm-zo1bo Yeah, both Krool's counter and Revenge are really good moves. Better then Ike's and Lucina's if you ask me
Nin Sen not really good, just decent
@@willdg8108 if Revenge has the potential to do up to 3x the damage of a base attack I think it's pretty good. Have you seen how much damage a high %, Revenge charged Incineroar can do? It can 1 Hit KO Ganon.
Nin Sen yeah but landing revenge is the problem lol. The only consistent way to land it is to jank recoveries. It’s easy to read landing with revenge or spot dodge cancel revenge
Zero: Plays SUPER HEAVY character
Also Zero: Dont play Ridley
Ridley is not a super heavy. He’s lighter than Samus lol
Isn't Ike a heavy
Zero is not that casual. He actually looked up weights.
the thing about Incin if you do 2 upgrades hes going to be called one of the best characters by some people in the game if he gets a good recovery, less lag and like a normal speed he be high tier and maybe the best
Tip for incineroar when your opponent is at the ledge once the invincibility wears off down smash
You know the timing is broken when you clicked the video faster than the Notification Speed.
Early Gang ftw!!
Wait, so you're saying that spamming Bowser's down-b when I'm above my opponent isn't a good landing option?!?
It's good if your opponent is a four year old lol. For everyone else it's a free f-smash
@@gabesatterfield8056 I know lol it's a joke
I use Bowser's down A because it's much faster and controllable though it obviously can't break a full shield
4:34
Zero: I'm playing one of the best Snake players as Donkey Kong, I'm scared.
Proceeds to beat him in 1minute and 16 seconds.
“That’s how strong bowser is, you do one Ariel and then they die”
This is little Mac we’re talking about doe
6:29 I can't believe that we live in a world where a remix of this song doesn't exist in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, let alone the song itself.
7:45 He actually does have a lot of low percent 3-attack combos and strings.
0:26 as a main of ganondorf i also din't agree too much that !
Might wanna main another character, despite ganondorf not being that bad, you aren't gonna get very far with him, maybe joker, pac-man, cloud, terry, even bowser are better picks
I mean, he has way too many problems to be better than the worst heavy. Forward smash just doesn’t hit people above him sometimes, people fall out of nair, up b doesn’t reach grounded opponents sometimes, landing fair doesn’t hit, bad recovery in general. He’s the undoubtedly worst heavy.
@@aabfnrjkfnvrofnfnrpldcbrko9027 uhh no, thats King K. Rool
You and me both
@@retrokingranch how do you think is Ganons feel?
*Looks at thumbnail*
K rool mains : we......we get it.......you dont need to rub it in
10:22 Byleth:(holds up smash) also byleth:NO HESITATION
K.rool might be bad but it turns top tier when Gang plank galleon sounds
"Oh man I'm playing a really good Snake with DK, I'm pretty nervous"
*Proceeds to win in 30 seconds*
You know zero doesn’t have much experience with incin when he doesn’t say anything about d-tilt
I love playing as K rool I’m sad he’s so low on the tier list also bro bring the dog on camera more please it’s so cute.
Me too
i main him because I love him but I do agree that he's really bad
He doesn’t have very good options out of shield bad aerials zero combos bad landing options you can get your belly broken etc.
Mr. Jelly I really do wish he was better.
As someone who mains King K. Rool, this video hurt me in ways I didn’t know possible
Tim Underwood Don't worry, ZeRo doesn't play competitively so he doesn't truly know the Smash Ultimate meta. He is a content creator now, not a Smash Ultimate competitor.
No worry brother we know how good our boy really is
VCiPz You say that like that changes anything. King K. Rool is still trash in the competitive meta game. He is literally the second worst in the tier list.
Angel Mendez-Rivera There is no concrete official globally recognized tier list yet for Ultimate STILL to this day.
VCiPz There is. Whether you want to accept it or not is not my problem.
ZeRo: K.Rool is slow
K.Rool’s top 20 initial dash: am I a joke to you
16:42 has great footage. A wolf getting good damage, then ganon landing a single up smash
King K. Rool is one of my favorite heavy and one of my mains :'(
Same, i just think he doesn't have experience with heavys, i would definitely say that he is not the worst
The good thing is that i had some practice with the best smash player in my city and i know what i should and not do uwu
THE King K. Rool is my doubles main and the one I use to just get ppl mad! Rool on stage, down smash, boom! You got a stock. His blunderbuss with crown, such an outstanding edge guard, it you get the spacing right... which isn’t hard to do haha
Lol imagine being in elite smash and failing to gimp any dorf recovery.
Zero: k rool is bad and I can't kill at all
Also me: kills many characters at 86 with down smash =/
But how likely would u pull it off a match
Randomize ? With wolf?
@@deromakesvideos Every... single... time.
@@derpyquagsire6678 I changed my profile.
@@randomize7987 okay...
Zero: Byleth is a matchup where Ganon really shines
Byleth: are you sure about that?
Now best zoners and best rush in characters ^^
Love your vids man.