While he doesn't have the same top end speed of Pitts, his ability to accelerate is extraordinary. You see it over and over again where defenders continually underestimate it and he gets the angle on them.
As a Jets fan, I’d be happy to walk away with Bowers. We DO need another OT, and WR, so my fav option would be to trade back and get a guy like Fautanu and best WR available in the 2nd, but that takes a trade partner which is never guaranteed. Altogether walking away with Bowers would help both our O-line and receiving, so if we have to stick and pick, I think he may be my top choice. Odunze is a freak of an athlete but contested catch WRs with poor route running/separation always give me pause
@@daveplefka2180 I’ve seen mixed results from what I’ve watched/heard about him. He seems to be 50/50 off the line, either getting great separation or getting beat to his spot/bullied off his path. While he’s quick for his size, he lacks the top speed necessary to be a consistent separator on deep passes. Of course, separation is less necessary when you can turn a 50/50 ball into a 70/30 ball, but I just feel like contested catch receivers are always especially crap shoots coming out of college; just because you can bully college athletes in the air for the ball doesn’t always mean you can do the same to NFL players.
He’s gonna fall because of all the talk of “you don’t draft a TE top 10” and a team is gonna get a steal and Bowers will benefit from that because he’s gonna go to a better team.
I think he's going to be an amazing starting QB for our Raiders for many years to come..... oh wait....... FUCK. WE DONT HAVE A REAL QB. I knew we forgot something this offseason...... Oh well, let Brock start and see how much better he'll be at QB than Minshew or AOC.
I don't see Bowers breaking all of those tackles in the NFL, but he does an excellent job of finding soft spots in the zone. He's a dynamic runner who will break & slip some tackles at the next level. He's more elusive than people think, too. I agree with your assessment.Bowers is a probowl caliber all-around talented tight end, who could be generational because of intangibles.
People have to be reminded every year. The NFL is different. The players that succeed are the ones put in the position to succeed. In addition, the standouts of the last three or four drafts were 2nd, 3rd, and even 5th round draft picks. College coaches are different than NFL coaches. It rarely translates like you think it does. With that being said, I'd love to have a well rounded, affiable, intelligent tight end like him on my team. But I'm never reaching for a tight end. I want OTs, QBs, DEs, and CBs in my first rounds, and in that order. I'd also point out that the only film used in this analysis was UT Martin and UAB. Not exactly powerhouses.
Any clips that aren't against UT Martin or UAB? I just think it's worth it to look at Bowers playing against teams that have more talent on their rosters.
He did look great against Alabama as a freshman even tho they lost, and against Ohio state in 2022 he made multiple game saving plays, also he single handedly saved Georgia from losing to Missouri the last year in 2023, he completely took over the game the last 2 drives. And Missouri was really good. Other huge games against Oregon, Michigan, and Tennessee over last 3 years as well
I just saw this on my feed is guy really showing us tape from UT Martin who ever that is and uab to show us examples how this guy is more elite than Pitts coming out lol 😂
I think the data is pretty clear that guys who can break tackles at the college level are very likely to be able to break tackles at the NFL level. To me his ceiling is limited at only 6'3 with a terrible contested catch rate but the floor is as good as it gets at TE.
That's the only thing that I feel he needs to work on. Making the more difficult catches. Whether it's contested, a ball thrown high, or if he needs to turn and extend and or contort. I'm not too worried as even when he doesn't come down with those, it doesn't appear as if he's trying to go past his athletic limits or ability. The rest of the game he possesses is practically similar to mold of Kelce/Kittle/Kincaid/etc, etc and that seems to translate best to the NFL. What separates him imo, is his ability to make those difficult pad level and lower catches and his skill level with the ball in his hands.
@@justincarlyle3839 I only watched his snaps from 2023, didn't actually look at his contested catch stats at all. The struggle with contested catches was just something that stood out over that span. I looked up a cutup of his contested targets in 2022 and I will say that he can catch in traffic over the middle but he's definitely not a high-point the football in the red zone kind of guy. He also doesn't have that forearm shove at the top of the route you see from bigger/stronger TEs.
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whos raider qb this year
He will be the best TE in the NFL.
If he gets a real qb then he’ll def be up there if not the best💯💯
I've been waiting for Brock Bowers analysis for so long
Good film study that shows BB's ceiling and it looks like he's already comfortable with the NFL game two weeks in!! Nice job with this vid!!
While he doesn't have the same top end speed of Pitts, his ability to accelerate is extraordinary. You see it over and over again where defenders continually underestimate it and he gets the angle on them.
His top end outruns CBs, don't know how much faster Pitts is but Bowers doesn't get caught from behind
Pitts is clumsy
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Good content as always. Raider Nation
Welcome to the Nation, Mr. Bowers. 🤘
As a Jets fan, I’d be happy to walk away with Bowers. We DO need another OT, and WR, so my fav option would be to trade back and get a guy like Fautanu and best WR available in the 2nd, but that takes a trade partner which is never guaranteed. Altogether walking away with Bowers would help both our O-line and receiving, so if we have to stick and pick, I think he may be my top choice. Odunze is a freak of an athlete but contested catch WRs with poor route running/separation always give me pause
Odunze is actually a great separator
Odunze is a monster
BPA!
@@daveplefka2180 I’ve seen mixed results from what I’ve watched/heard about him. He seems to be 50/50 off the line, either getting great separation or getting beat to his spot/bullied off his path. While he’s quick for his size, he lacks the top speed necessary to be a consistent separator on deep passes. Of course, separation is less necessary when you can turn a 50/50 ball into a 70/30 ball, but I just feel like contested catch receivers are always especially crap shoots coming out of college; just because you can bully college athletes in the air for the ball doesn’t always mean you can do the same to NFL players.
Your odunze take is horrible he's the opposite of everything you said about him
See the Jets drafting him.
He’s gonna fall because of all the talk of “you don’t draft a TE top 10” and a team is gonna get a steal and Bowers will benefit from that because he’s gonna go to a better team.
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I think he's going to be an amazing starting QB for our Raiders for many years to come..... oh wait....... FUCK. WE DONT HAVE A REAL QB. I knew we forgot something this offseason...... Oh well, let Brock start and see how much better he'll be at QB than Minshew or AOC.
AOC is awesome give him time.
I don't see Bowers breaking all of those tackles in the NFL, but he does an excellent job of finding soft spots in the zone. He's a dynamic runner who will break & slip some tackles at the next level. He's more elusive than people think, too. I agree with your assessment.Bowers is a probowl caliber all-around talented tight end, who could be generational because of intangibles.
he's 21 with two national championships...
People have to be reminded every year. The NFL is different. The players that succeed are the ones put in the position to succeed. In addition, the standouts of the last three or four drafts were 2nd, 3rd, and even 5th round draft picks. College coaches are different than NFL coaches. It rarely translates like you think it does.
With that being said, I'd love to have a well rounded, affiable, intelligent tight end like him on my team. But I'm never reaching for a tight end. I want OTs, QBs, DEs, and CBs in my first rounds, and in that order.
I'd also point out that the only film used in this analysis was UT Martin and UAB. Not exactly powerhouses.
Why are you showing clips vs UT Martin and UAB? 😂
When are you going become a nfl scout?
😂 ok
That dude's a baller fo sho
He tore up the SEC. Enough with this UT bullshit.
Always very worried about players praised for breaking tackles in college
It does seem to translate at least from RBs that I’ve seen
Traits are traits son
Even though the Jets need to draft an onlinemen wouldn’t be shock they draft Bowers so they can get Rodgers another weapon
Any clips that aren't against UT Martin or UAB? I just think it's worth it to look at Bowers playing against teams that have more talent on their rosters.
Some of his best games were in the college post season.
Jeremy Shockey is my comp
He's better. More complete and a turbo boosted train with the ball in hand in the open field.
Winslow
He's faster and tougher I know he runs a 4.5 but when you watch him on film he seems faster and he likes to truck guys and block.
Ever. We've never. Seen a te prospect like this
Raaaaiiideeerrs!!!
If he falls to the Bengals and we get our own Gronk/Kelce for our great QB, we might be able to topple KC. :)
He did this against community colleges. But I am very much a believer
He did look great against Alabama as a freshman even tho they lost, and against Ohio state in 2022 he made multiple game saving plays, also he single handedly saved Georgia from losing to Missouri the last year in 2023, he completely took over the game the last 2 drives. And Missouri was really good. Other huge games against Oregon, Michigan, and Tennessee over last 3 years as well
Every NFL players was once a college players playing against the same
I just saw this on my feed is guy really showing us tape from UT Martin who ever that is and uab to show us examples how this guy is more elite than Pitts coming out lol 😂
I think the data is pretty clear that guys who can break tackles at the college level are very likely to be able to break tackles at the NFL level. To me his ceiling is limited at only 6'3 with a terrible contested catch rate but the floor is as good as it gets at TE.
Dude is a bit above 6'4"
@@eorozco7 He's 6'3 and 1/8th of an inch as officially measured at the combine.
That's the only thing that I feel he needs to work on. Making the more difficult catches. Whether it's contested, a ball thrown high, or if he needs to turn and extend and or contort. I'm not too worried as even when he doesn't come down with those, it doesn't appear as if he's trying to go past his athletic limits or ability. The rest of the game he possesses is practically similar to mold of Kelce/Kittle/Kincaid/etc, etc and that seems to translate best to the NFL. What separates him imo, is his ability to make those difficult pad level and lower catches and his skill level with the ball in his hands.
you clearly only looked at his stats from last season which he was mostly injured, he was top 10 in contested catches for any receiver the year before
@@justincarlyle3839 I only watched his snaps from 2023, didn't actually look at his contested catch stats at all. The struggle with contested catches was just something that stood out over that span. I looked up a cutup of his contested targets in 2022 and I will say that he can catch in traffic over the middle but he's definitely not a high-point the football in the red zone kind of guy. He also doesn't have that forearm shove at the top of the route you see from bigger/stronger TEs.
Krueger ftw
Who was better in college him or Kyle Pitts?
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Fail. Repeatedly highlighting plays against UT Martin? UT Martin!?!?
I'm glad somebody said this. UT Martin and UAB were horrible examples to prove this broken tackle thing won't fade against real NFL competition
You have TH-cam, search his highlights
Just watched the SB #4.....winners got $16,000 losers got $8,000
In 2024 winners got $164,000 losers got $100,000
Ummm ok
Now that he's a Raider...probably not amazing anymore.