Pat McAfee Reacts To The NFL's New Rule To Replace Onside Kicks
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In madden this is going to be toxic
Yea fr especially in ultimate team
😂 fax
Send everyone deep with Lamar and you’ve got 15 yards on the ground easy lmao
Jeez you guys are toxic 😅😅😅🤣🤣
At least it’s only 2 per game
Don’t let this new onside kick rule distract you from the fact that the Bengals still do not have an indoor facility in 2020.
Don't let the Bengals not having an indoor facility in 2020 distract you from Balls Of Chaos blowing a 3-second lead against the Savage Speeders in Marbula 1 Marble Racing Grand Prix 2020.
@@derpmcgerp8062 biggest choke since the 3-1 warriors
Wow
Good. They're men. They can deal with a bit of weather
Neither do the bears or packers bit we embrace it
NFL: Hey, can I copy your work?
XFL: Sure. Just change it up a bit so it doesn't look obvious.
Bro xfl is bankrupt..for a second time lol and facing lawsuits...there pretty much irrelevant just saying
@@jameycockrell5481 wait what lawsuits
@@ethanelmore1640 from Andrew luck's dad, and a bunch of the coaches
This has been a proposal for a while
I heard Vince is trying to buy it back?
4th and 20, do it For the Brand
Yes!
Right lol
Money Ray Lucas 4th and 20 seems more fair
@@austinhopkins4191 from their own 10 seems fair ,
✌️🌲
Nfl banned Justin Tucker’s sky high drop kick so they are even getting rid of creative literally lol
What you mean bro
I mean it’s the No Fun League
Nikhil Gupta lol exactly he had to rekick it when he did his drop kick
NFL: Excessive kicking rekick
“Kickoffs are stupid and bad”. -Jon Bois
Charles Flores one of his best videos
X he’s right
Nice name brah
X according to sbnation (where Jon Bois is from) in 2017 1036 kickoffs were returned. 7 of those 1036 returned kickoffs were touchdowns. About 0.06 percent of kicks. Did I also mention that this was before the touchback was at the 25 yard line? It is also a common known fact that the kickoff is one of the most dangerous parts of football. Green Bay Packers President Mark Murphy said that based on statistics gathered from the league showed that injuries happened 5 times as often than all other plays. Yes they were fun to watch just in case your team gets a huge return but now with the recent rule change in 2018, the kickoff touchback rate went from 17% to 48%! Half of your glorious kickoffs end in a player sitting down in his end zone so that the ball can be put for him at the 25 yard line. It ruins the fun but the injury rate goes down 38%. I do understand that kicking off is a really cool feeling and is iconic. But why not just get the game going? What would you rather see? Your favorite team’s quarterback with 15:00 minutes in the first quarter gain more yardage than they probably would have on a kickoff, or just see an injury prone dangerous boring play in which half of the time, the player just downs it. In summary, kickoffs are extremely useless, are a huge risk to player safety and are extremely boring. It seems like you’ve gotten some concussions on these kickoffs
@X Do you have an argument that DOESNT make you look like a virgin?
Pat McAfee is the most influential person in the NFL without actually influencing anything
Edit: damn what’s a fan gotta do to get some love from pat himself?
if you didn't know this, he'll inform you.
It's an XFL rule.
@@Dave_ja_vu whoosh
Jack Ashmore lol nice one
@@clipsedrag13 not a whoosh, I can read.
The Mcaffe rule, that would have a nice ring to it
I think it's actually the Jon Bois rule
*McAfee
Nick Einolf why do people like u feel the need to be the Internet grammar police? No one gives a shi
@@NovaAsh351 I think he was just trying to help bro usually ur mistakes need to be corrected just so you don’t make that mistake in the future
The McAfee rule. Anyone in the c gap gets a 15 yard penalty.
Pat McAfee is the only thing getting me thru quarantine
ur mom is the only thing getting me thru quarantine
Brayden Slater you’re that broke that you have to reply on stale cheese sandwiches from someone’s mom to get through quarantine? I feel bad for you.
Pats cool but Your interests aren't very broad then...sounds boring
Get a life bro
It’a going to suck when he leaves. Some conglomerate TV station is going to pick him up like everyone else. It won’t surprise me if he ended up on Fox Sports, or NFL network, I’d say ESPN but they’re not paying analysts any longer.
Everybody commenting like Madden hasn't already been ass the last 10 years lmao.
I'm sorry but madden was ass whenever NFL 2k wasn't a thing and they now have a literal monopoly. Some antitrust laws need to be made for EA.
@@mayidiepls6662 NFL 2K5 is and NCAA 14 are all I play still lol. Madden 05, 06 were good though on last gen.
Lol ten
It's been exactly the same game for at least the last 6. But yes 10 or so years is the last time I actually bought the game.
they r the idiots who keep buying. why its the same game and ea license got reupped
Former wedge buster here... Yes every time
I was always the front of the wedge itself, I respect your craft
This would suck for madden
It’s a video game that means nothing.
ThruLife Gear it’s real news that may happen
Mohab Galal sorry I meant video game*
A dude just won like 65k without throwing passes and used a punter at qb
Majin TV Because it’s all about animations now. not even any real football strategy. ridiculous.
The whole point is that onside kicks are suppose to be incredibly hard to recover. When you score, the other team is suppose to get the ball. If my team is up 3 TDs near the end of the game, that means they EARNED it and deserve the win.... but all that can go out the window now that it would be A LOT easier for the other team to convert a 4th and 15th.
The old debate of authenticity vs spectacle. Everyone loves a comeback.
billy fraiser well if they’re up 3 TDS and give up the 4th and 15 and a comeback, then they don’t deserve the win
And if the team that's behind is the one the league wants to win, you better believe a flag will fly on 4th and 15.
It’s a corny gimmick. Onside kick is a kickoff, just done trying to get the ball back. Why you line up the offense after a score?
Billy? I have a question how many 4 and 15s has your team converted?
Mahomes: Wins Super Bowl
NFL: Activates Mahomes Easy Mode (4th and 15)
Tom Brady: Son of a BELICHICK
@Joe Me Look up Mahomes's passer rating on 3rd/ 4th downs and 15+ yards. No one has the advantage over Mahomes in this regard
@Big Reiner lol I thought we were talking about tangible performance on 3rd/ 4th downs with 15+ yards to go, not what Brady did with a coach that could scheme cirlces around Bruce Arians
@@Jundin09637 lol ig hes not trying to scheme circles around anybody now?
Pat McAfee is the most influential person in the NFL without actually influencing anything
Edit: damn what’s a fan gotta do to get some love from pat himself?
It's ok though. The league made rules so that if Tom Brady ever got touched the Patriots would get 15 yards and a 1st down.
Oh good, another way for games to be decided by pass interference and whether it's called.
Preach!! 🙌
With the money involved you don't actually think they let the games have a random out come do you!?!? If so that's cute! It gets clearer every year the league is fixed. Bet on the team that wins every time! And that team is the zebras and the league!
I bet the Saints are going to hate this the most lol
@@marcusmayne3831 man I am a Saints fan and should have all the rights to say the NFL is rigged but dont you think that in the century the NFL exists that one person would have come out and said that the NFL is rigged. Sure, things are designed in some teams favor like the schedule this year for the buccs or the rams getting more prime time games than they deserve but that are all legitimate measures. Just sucks that Refs suck...
@@TheKnightofAwesomeness its destiny for the saints to lose the nfc championship on this play.
This is a dumb rule. Imagine a holding or roughing the passer. Automatic first down penalties. I do not see this going well at all
or a bad PI call on a deep ball
Cool Breeze Thanks captain obvious, but if you've ever played any sports or done anything at all you know that real life and on paper are 2 different things, there are more variables than just what you *want* to happen
Cool Breeze fouling on a three is completely different from a refs subjective pi call. Or a ridiculous roughing the passer we have seen in the past. You can get a subjective holding. There is so much more variables in the game of football than basketball and that is why I just see this as being doomed to fail.
Cool Breeze a joe flacco could underthro the ball and make the wr come back which in the eyes of the ref would look like a pi. There is just so much more that can happen.
@@danielkwamou8290 Yep, nothing subjective about a foul in basketball... good point
I legit thought Pat was going with "since onside kicks success rate has gone down so much since I retired" 😂
I love how pat talks like a regular guy , but the dude is all pro with in game experiences 😂😂 freaking awesome
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Barstool is cool too. Probably a rival of Pat but super funny
Matthew Webster eh we don’t get the inside information like we do with pat other than PMT
Barstool and mcafee
Sold his soul? Rogan got HIS money bro. You’re a stooge to say no to $100 million for doing the same thing you’re already doing
Nothing better than a man running 50 yards full speed, blowing up the blockers and making the tackle
Nash Tichy well at what point do you just say take tackling our altogether? All this fake outrage about “safety” but yall never mention the consistent helmet-to-helmet collisions that happen on EVERY PLAY between linemen. Do you just take out the o-line and have the defense count to 5 Mississippi before they can touch the QB? Football has to stay football at some point.
This seems almost too easy....
Ryan this is true, but I stand by what I said. The randomness of how the ball bounces made onside kicks so crazy. An extra possession gives a team an insane advantage. Teams will eventually get really good at this and “onside kicks” will become almost normal.
I think 3rd and 15+ plays were hovering between 12 and 17% conversion rates and 4th and 15+ were in the single digits. This isn't easy. It also allows a prevent defense where you don't have to defend the catch, you just have to make the tackle in front of you. It's going to be mostly a passing down too which also helps the defense.
You've got to remember the tradeoff is your opponent gets the ball between the 25 and 39 going in.
@@mattjohnson1520 you really should re eval
@@mattjohnson1520 I agree. Although Pat said it's going to be limited to twice a game.
@Ryan Are they comparable? It seems like converting 4th & 15 is way easier than recovering an onside.
In 10 years or so there’s going to be a short documentary on the onside kick and Pat’s going to be in it
The onside kick is supposed to be hard to recover. Makes no sense why they would change it.
Hard yes, almost impossible no.
It’s harder last year than anytime before. Onsides used to be so easy that their was debate what was more effective for offense, passing or onsides.
4th and 15 is also hard to convert
Right
@@Ph03n1x851 not to the elite lol
How about 4th & 15 but the catch is your kicker must play QB?
All of the sudden your QB is now a QB/K.
Suddenly quarterbacks that would otherwise be drafted in the 5th round or later and be a career backup will become kickers drafted in the 1st round.
Derek Carr would still throw it short
He would throw it away
Mohab Galal most likely
Mohab Galal lol so true
He would dive for the 1st down, then fumble the ball juuuuuuuuust before the marker😂😂😂
StarkTemplar he already did once
The NFL is desperate to remove special teams like Devin Hester wasn't one of the best players in league history out of special teams.
How man rings does Hester have?...oh... he was a bear....nvm
Nathan Jessip he’s talking about HIS own ability to bring it all the way back from the ten or deeper. Why are you trying degrading Devin Hester
@@cjaylamphere6963 Every player needs a ring or their game was meaningless I guess. I see the same attacks to Stockton and Malone in the NBA. It matters a lot, but most of the time it's situation that affects everything more.
@@colonelJ77 Try and act like his returns didn't lead a hapless offense to the SB, with a TD return on the opening kick. So he set his team up to play with a lead that was lost. You expect 3 TD returns a game in a SB?
Alex Smith i think its for players safety, while its a fun thing for fans im always for players safety first
one of the reasons why Steve Tasker is one of my favorite Buffalo Bills, he was phenomenal at KR & he hustled booty on every single one of them
Yea man bills mafiaaa! Sick how the league is being pussified!
Love the Little Giants' reference Pat.
Stealthee 3k I was waiting to see this comment
Ice Box
I imagine McAfee was that co-worker (teammate) that made going to work everyday awesome.
Check the SB Nation "Kickoffs are stupid and bad" video for a great exploration of the impact of Kickoffs. It also has the actual origin of this proposed rule.
Was it the true origin? Or was he just the first to bring it up?
It cracks me up that people want to remove more of the kicking from FOOTball.
John Bois has that entire channel on his back
@@benjaminl1870 Agreed.
Yeah Pat wasn't the first to come up with it
Last time I was this early, Troy Polamalu hadn’t lined up in the C gap yet
Never heard someone talk so passionately about kicking 💀🤣🤣
I mean, it was his job lol
Like it was his job eh lol
Man I love onside kicks! Its strategy!
The XFL kickoff is AWESOME though... I wish the NFL wasn't so anal about giving other people credit for good ideas.
Also XFLs replay is amazballs as well. No hidden box camera! All out in the open with mic relay.
Well don't expect the NFL(national fixed league) to start! They like it just how it is they determine the out come through the zebras. Easier to see with every passing year especially last year's playoffs! You know when they ruled against their own rule book in pretty much every playoff game
@@marcusmayne3831 real talk
No... you didn't cause this... the falcons did when their kicker did 3 straight onside kicks successfully.
Younghoe Koo is a legend for a reason
Suchith Munigati younghoe koo the goat
They probably practice it because they know there gonna be down
Koo had a couple good games, but pat was the onside master.
I'd say the Saints special teams caused this by being incompetent.
what hasn't McAfee done 🤯
Meth
Take on Troy Polamalu in the C gap?
Successfully score a touchdown against the Pittsburgh Steelers
That Scag💉
Run through the c gap for a touchdown
So many Madden memories where I got the backup strong safety on kickoffs who usually could run really fast and just nail the returner with the hit stick as hard as I could. Forced so many fumbles returned for touchdowns. lol
Much love from Seattle man I'm up at 7 listening to your show every morning keeps me motivated and out there getting it
How you out there getting it when you're sleeping in?
drewmis1 how tf is getting up at 7 sleeping in
I’m calling it, if they get rid of the onside kick, 25 years from now there will be an NFL Films segment titled “Pat McAfee, the last master of the Onside kick”
Pat is my inspiration everyday
I was a wedge-buster in High School. I hated it. Oh, I was starting on defense, so no rest after the return. Senior year I started both ways and the coach took me off kick-off. Loved it.
I think the NFL need to adopt the XFL kickoff's with everyone lined up down the field, and then if a team elects an onside kick (unlimited as well) they do the normal on side kick routine. Keeps the returners employed and seemed to reduce the risk of injuries to inline with the rest of the game
doing it just twice doesnt exclude just scoring first taking ur first 4/15 maintaining possession scoring again (now ur 14 points up) doing it again maintaining it again to get another 7 giving you a potential 21 point lead before half. If ur a high powered offense like KC or Baltimore you can run over teams a lot more.
Younghoe Koo did this when he nailed 3 onside kicks in a row against the saints.
I could've sworn I saw the Browns punter do a beautiful spinner onside kick last season. It was almost recovered too.
My memory on it is vague. Maybe it happened in preseason.
LOL. Patrick Mahomes will exploit this new rule all season long.
Most teams would, 4th and 15 is a whole hell of a lot easier to get than an onside kick ever has been. Should be 4th and 30, unlimited tries in a game, and if you fail you give the other team 2 points and possession at the 50.
Dr_Rhinoceros the odds of converting a 4th and 15 is around the same as a desperation onside kick. That’s the numbers
Until he gets drilled scrambling around back there
@@lazerdicks Meh. It should be just 4th and 25 but at the 50 yard line.
Not necessarily. You could only use it twice a game. So it’s not really exploiting the new rule, no matter who the QB is, if you are just using the option
I bet the Falcons wished the onside kick rule was changed
I say make it 4th&30 and make it to where you could do it as many times as you want in a game
Maybe 4th and 20 or 25 with as many as you want I think 30 is a bit much
@@JoseGarcia-bf2il 15 is easy id say 20 is good, hard but can be got. 15 is a give me for some teams
So NFL Blitz? 🤔🤣
Great Broken Matt Hardy reference, Pat! 0:48 The NFL should DELETE that rule, and onside kicks wil be WONDERFUUUULLLL, YESSSS!
I was a wedge buster in high school. Someone twice my size blindsided me and threw out my back with a slight dislocation. Went though 3 months of therapy or something. Not fun.
You got a new subscriber cause that was such an interesting topic.
Oh this exactly what jonboi from SB nation proposed a few years ago.
That wasn't his proposal tho it was the ... Schiano proposal? I don't remember the name but someone else proposed it first.
You shall correctly spell the name Jon Bois, thou disrespectful heretic.
Snookbone touché but the point stands
@@Mocityspirit you think I would make that comment not knowing that?
Loving the Broken Matt Hardy reference there!!
"The onside kick will fade away and classify itself as obsolete,
OBSOLETE!"
Onside kick... I will DEEEEELEEETE YOU... YAAAASSSS
Poor Younghoe Koo, being an onside kick specialist is his job.
Pat McAfee makes you respect kickers and punters. I wish I could smoke a few blunts with him and see what he says haha he seems like a real ass dude
“Dr. Will Smith came out” 💀💀💀
That one time when Pat recovered his own onside kick was fantastic
Patriots and Texans 2019 end of the season Jake Bailey was so close.
Yeah Brandon Bolden almost took that for a TD
I was the wedge buster in high school, and to this day it’s the funnest position! I remember the first time I did it, last minute change, I was a gunner, but our wedge buster was out, so they moved to wedge buster and I just asked “what do I do?” And coach just said, run as fast as you can at the guy in front of the returner and take out as many of them as you can! Haha I loved it! I never went back to gunner.
Oh the Falcons have an advantage over the rest of the league in one aspect of the game? better change the rules..
Lol
@Francis Clark Haha It sure does
What makes the falcons specifically better at onside kicks than any other team in the league?
@@burtmacklin1939 They got the Younghoe.
(Seriously, look up Younghoe onside kicks.)
28-3
As a falcons fan who has the goat of onside kicks on our team, this DEFINITELY shouldn’t change.
One day someone will launch an out-of-season league that plays by NFL circa 1975 rules, and the public will love it.
naw the nfl was in its prime from 1995 to 2012 in terms of playstyle/safety
@@samisami9114 true. The golden years.
I love listening to him talk about football
All these rules in the last 10 -20 years has ruined the game.
Big Dan T agreed the extra point being moved back is horrible. The point of it is to be a well.. extra point not a game winning field goal
Facts.
AAF had this rule, but a difference is:
Onside Conversion (4th and 15) is NOT allowed when the time of clock is not reached last 5 minutes of a half, or losing team's deficit reached 21 points.
When the falcons had three in a row tho that was super clutch
On the 4th and 15 plays, it should be a dead ball play that if there's a defensive penalty, it's a replay of down instead of usual penalty.
My other changes would be:
-Defensive pass interference is a 15 yard penalty or spot penalty (whichever is greater), no automatic first down.
-Defensive holding is now a 10 yard penalty, no automatic first down.
I feel like people don’t understand that onside kicks are supposed to be a one in a million chance 🤦♂️
Dummys
It's in the benefit of the NFL that viewers watch until the end. If a team has no chance, then viewers stop watching in the third quarter (as an example).
If you take away kick offs. You take away onside kicks. If you take away onside kicks, people lose interest towards the end of the game.
How to make football kick-offs safe and exciting.
1, Kicks that first land out of bounds (even beyond the endzone) are a first and 10 for the receiving team at the 50.
2, Move the kick-off to the 50 yard line.
3, Kicks that land in the field of play, and roll out, the receiving team gets the ball at the point it crossed the sideline.
These rules combine to do the following.
1, encourage the kicking team to put the ball in play. Kicks out the back of the endzone will result in the receiving team getting the ball at the 50 yard line, but a kick that lands in the end zone and then goes out of play results in a touchback.
2, forces the return team to spread out their team. Because a kick that lands in play and then goes out of bounds at the 8 yard line, would result in the return team getting the ball at their 8 yard line, it would result in a return team that is spread out.
3, failed on-side kicks will result in the receiving having a longer distance to cover to score. Because the kick-off is at the 50, a failed on-side kick would result in aproximatly a 60 yard drive to score, a 50% increase over the current 40 yards.
4th and 5 still wouldn't help the Bears.
As a lifelong Chicagoan, I've learned to laugh at the insistence that overcoming a lousy QB is "Chicago Bears Football", as if doing otherwise would be unmanly.
Y'all wouldnt get a 4th and inches...sorry😂
An onside kick made me a life-long saints fan in Super Bowl XVIL. A 15 year old kentucky kid with no team to root for and between Katrina and that Superbowl. Never looking back.
The XFL kickoffs were probably the best thing the Xfl came up with. I remember watching the first game and saying damn. That’s the perfect way to do a kick off. It’s just as entertaining. But waaaaaaaay safer
I like the shoutout to R Kelly's favorite kicker Younghoe Koo.
This comment is too underrated
As soon as I saw the rule I was like, I wonder what pat thinks of this
Being the wedge buster was the best role just and if you had multiple wedge busters let the kick returner hold onto one of their backs then it was big kick return plays everytime
Onside kicks isnt a huge deal, but I think Pat is missing on something here. This feels like a gateway to potentially eliminating kickers altogether.
Not extra points though
Kickers are safe. It’s kickoffs that are on the hot seat. Could see kickoffs being gone in 5-10 years and it’s just automatic start at your 25. If kickers were being fazed out of the game then we would have seen them eliminate the extra point instead of moving it back and making the kicker more important.
@@spaceapes6978 Pretty soon, they're going to start giving teams good field position if they hire black head coaches
@@tlz124 what the hell u talking about Opy
Pat your a legion with your kicks luv the show
It’s tough to limit the number of times you can do this, because you might need to come back from more than two scores.
What if, instead, the first attempt starts at 4th and 15, then goes to 4th and 20, 25, and so on.
There’s only so many plays you can draw up for 4th and 30.
Listen being a wedge buster was the coolest thing, I was a fullback on the offensive side and I was a long snapper. (Favorite player is don muhlbach) Kickoffs are the most balls to the wall thing. And having a rugby background it makes you feel like Superman.
Yeah... hating the evolution of the game as of late take me back to 2010 rules
One of the things I really like about Pat is he doesn't try to tough guy his way through the issue of concusions. These are people at the end of the day, no matter how much muscle they've got, their whole future health is on the line from some of these hits they take.
who’s here after the cowboys game
Me
New rule definitely needs some serious tweaking. This is going to change offensive strategy with more 4th down attempts.
A meaningful rule change goes back to the old AFL. Widen out the hashmarks opens up the long pass, changes defensive strategy as now there's a true short and long side of the field, and field goals more difficult as the angles more severe.
Onside kicks are an integral part of the game.
The Goodell Football Circus continues....
Just relax the onside kick rules a bit. I do not like the NFL trying to change the rules.
Nathaniel Stoll it’s is carp tho. I think they should be only allowed to do this 1 time per half tho not being able to do it as many times as you want
I don't understand why everyone is trying to help the losing team. They had the same opportunity to win the game as their opponent for the first 59 minutes. They shouldn't relax or changing anything. They shouldn't even have an onside opportunity.
An amendment to the rule should be, one 4th and 15 each half. And if a team is losing and scores in the last two minutes it’s either mandatory or at least an option whether or not you used the either of the other two. Basically if you score in the last two minutes and are down you get a 4th and 15 option
Kickers aren't dudes, confirmed.
Football is any sport done on your feet as apposed to sports played on horseback. Yah, it's an old term.
Why go for the 4th and 15 from your own 25 as the last play of the game to try and win it when you have a shot to win it with the 2pt conversion. Only way I can see that is a team gets stuffed and kicks a fg to tie
I'll take a 4th and 15 over a kick off just look at jon bois video
"Dr. Will Smith" LMFAO
Not a fan. Should relax the onside kick rules.
Week 1 of XFL 2022...the onside rule is so good... never out of a game by traditional NFL scoring rule
This is the stupidest change they have ever made
I mean the pass interference rule change was a pretty dumb change, it’s kinda ruined a lot of games since it’s introduction
No it's a good change
@@xdifficultviper9916 it ruined absolutely zero games. The rule was fine, the league was just unclear as to whet would be overturned. For the most part it did nothing to change what was called on the field.
@@iwellbreastfed how
mcafee with the unintentional hardy boyz references
NFL honestly seems deadset on killing any appeal that they have left.
The wedge busters is forwards in rugby 😂
Yes finally!! I can finally win on madden😂
imma lock yo ass up & take the ball on the 25
No you can’t. You’d be the player to run stretch on 4th and 15
The use of a little giants reference is spectacular
The NFL makes a dumber rule each day
😂🤣
Having played to kick off is one of the best aspects of the game guys running full speed to take fuckers out, amazing some of the best moments in f the nfl have come in kickoff on both sides of the ball
Lmao the way he described a wedge buster was really funny but now I think about it that's what i played on kickoff
Pat talking about the gladiator kickoffs is crazy funny 😂😂 pretty sure it felt like this even in high school