Seems to me that Mary was hell bent on revenge for Cranmer annulling her parents' marriage. Once he denounced his religion, he should have been pardoned, but Mary personally intervened so that he should indeed burn at the stake. I wonder why he didn't leave England when Mary was crowned queen? He must have known he was in trouble, even back then!! I can't imagine why he stayed.
Of course, Mary wanted Cranmer executed, this there was no doubt. He was after all the one who declared her a bastard and committed treason supporting the abortive coup of Jane, Hugh Latimer had resigned as bishop to join the Reformed Movement opposing Henry's Articles of Faith. Ridley was an out and out Reformed. They were Calvinists not merely Anglicans. Neither had received papal permission for their ordinations. This fact permitted their quick execution and their trial for heresy was an open and shut case. Not so with Cranmer, who had received papal permission. Cranmer could not flee ... where could he go? France? the Spanish Netherlands? Holy Roman Empire? Wherever he made landfall he would have been arrested. One only has to remember that Tyndale did flee England and was captured by and returned to England where he was found guilty of heresy and burned at the stake by Cranmer himself. There was no way out for him. Remember who Mary's husband was ... there was nowhere for Cranmer to flee to.
@@somyod2u No, the execution was the correct decision when it came to Cranmer. If we forgave everyone, well we are going to have every murderer running loose in society. Cranmer was for worse than any murderer. He had been the architect of the execution of many innocent people Justice must be served. However, we KNOW Mary did make the correct decision in this regard, Cranmer reverted to heresy when he knew his goose was cooked. His abjuring of heresy was in bad faith after all.
What a fool Mary was! Publication of Cranmer's recantation and letting him live afterwatds would have been damaging to the new faith while these grim executions made martyrs.
Would love to see the room you're broadcasting from. I am intrigued by the window (or niche) behind you. How old is your house. Love the info you provide us with on this wonderful channel.
In one of her videos, I believe she said her house was something like 300 years old!! But I don't recall the exact #.. I'd be interested in a tour as well.. *EDIT* I had to go back & check & its is actually 364 years old! (I believe it's the 3/16/19 video)
My relatives in England own a pub that has been standing since the 13th century. The Bell pub. It hasnt always been The Bell, but there has always been a pub/tavern in that spot. It was originally a tavern/lodging house used by stone masons working on a local church, which also still stands. Buildings in Europe go way way back. Some of them are older than the US itself lol.
I so hope you keep on, how will I live without your amazing daily Tudor reports!! (I just recently received 2 lovely sweatshirts, "On this day in Tudor History Something bad happened..." I kept 1 and I am giving another to a fellow nurse who is a Tudor history buff! Why are nurses Tudor history buffs?? 🤩🥰❤
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A lot of people are asking why Cranmer didn't flee England when Mary assumed the throne. By the time of his death he was 66 years old and I'm sure he had a whole host of health problems that few know about. Relocating to the continent at his age was most-likely simply unfeasible.
@@ronaldjones5589 Cranmer was one of those types who held no religious convictions whatsoever. He was willing to change with the times. Unfortunately for him, Mary knew he was exactly that, and he suffered (rightly so) a suitable punishment for his transgressions.
He had no where to flee to, not to France, not to the Netherlands and the Holy Roman Empire ... you know who Mary's husband was, right? He could not even go to Russia. Wherever he made landfall he would be arrested
Thomas Cranmer must have been an optimist a fool or a very brave man not to flee when Mary took the crown. That said, when he recanted his protestant faith he must have felt deep fear, as only a sane person would. For him in the end to embrace his faith and die for it was the act of a very brave man. All of this in the name of religions! Thank you Claire for your clear delivery. 🐕🐈🔔
Ann Thurain brave? He was a dead man walking. He renounced as they were lighting the dry hay. His last words were not of peace and contrition and reconciliation, Christian ideals Queen Anne spoke of so eloquently before placing her head on the block, no, the Cardinals words were furious and defiant. Not a soul at peace.
All I can say it was brutal back then, during the reigns of Catholic and Protestant Tudor Monarchs. That’s the problem with the absolute authority and rule of the monarchy not held in check by a counter strong institution. Really the Catholic Church was the only thing holding many of these monarchs in check, and I believe that authority that limited his freedom bothered Henry as much as his inability to be granted an annulment by said authority. He didn’t want to have to ask- he was King! And by taking that drastic step to break off, and be excommunicated, he was no longer accountable for anything to anybody. Cool for him. And what they call a judicial system? as far as I can tell it was a total joke. People were hauled off and tortured for confessions. if you’re on the rack I’m sure you’ll say just about anything, including that you xxxx’d your sister when you didn’t. But that’s all the king needs- a confession from somebody- off with her head! if the monarch wanted somebody to die, they would die. All the rest was just for show it’s just ceremony; it’s kabuki theater. And it being kabuki theater, at times those accused used those precious moments to defend themselves the best they could, but it was almost always to no avail. Who was ever judged innocent after being arrested? . Being arrested meant you were counting the days. Unless you were rescued. Now with all of Cranmers renunciations; was Queen Mary on some sort of vindictive humiliation trip? taunting this fellow with a potential pardon, keeping him going with more renunciations, but irrevocably slipping down that muddy slope to the flames and the wooden post? I don’t know, and I don’t know how personal it was for her in terms of the execution being directly caused by her 20+ year resentment over her parents’ annulment. I suspect many factors were in play and many advisers were consulted. But one we do know is that She also was, like her mother, an extremely devout Roman Catholic, who held onto her faith at great risk for many years, and perhaps in her extreme fundamentalist/Spanish Catholicism really felt like this was a spiritual war she was called upon to defend against heretics (aka Protestants), and she had to stop it. Kinda like The USA taking it upon themselves needing to stop the spread of communism in Southeast Asia: because it’s evil. (The evidence shows that wasn’t such a great crusade either). So I can’t speak for her motivations. However, I’m kind of surprised that he didn’t back away a bit from all of the documents and Doctrines that he was busily writing up for the new Protestant religion whilst the king was on his deathbed given that there was a damn good chance hed have a Catholic monarch forthwith. He didn’t even want to sign the document proclaiming Lady Jane Gray as next in line to the monarchy knowing that was just going to give him more problems, and it did. So, having also broken free from the Roman church to become top dog in England, I think he got way too involved in creating this new church, and was working under time pressure, and boy he did get a lot done but politically? A foolish decision. Then again, even the eloquent Sir Thomas More couldn’t wiggle out of Henry’s demand to acknowledge and submit to him as the Supreening Head Of the Church. LOL.
Windy S Allyn, Interesting that you can trace your family so far back. It makes history so real for us all viewing this excellent series. Thanks for your post. I cannot think of any death more horrifying than that of burning at the stake. Do you ever get subconsciously fearful putting on the morning fire in your home?
As soon as Mary took over Cranmer should have seen what was coming. Mary was such a fanatic and she must have been so bitter over her mother's fate. And Henry treated Mary very badly too, just because Katherine wouldn't give him a divorce. What a lousy husband and father he was. Thank you Claire.
Remember, Cranmer declared her a bastard and took part in a treasonous coup against her ... the fact that she permitted him and Jane to live as long as they did discredits the fanatic label
Thomas Cranmer is one of my favorite Tudor citizens his end made me very sad. But Mary was definitely out for vengeance here...this is the Mary I do not like. Thank you for sharing Claire!
Sounds like Mary I wanted revenge on Cranmer for dissolving her parents marriage. That and the fact that he had recanted several times would have made it really hard to trust his word and actions. It’s sad he burned, but he must have known it was dangerous to stay in England when Mary I ascended the throne. It’s curious why he didn’t leave when that happened. Maybe he wasn’t well enough for such a journey? Thank you as always for bringing these daily videos to us!! I love learning about Tudor history, the good, the bad and the ugly. It’s all important.
He actually had no where to run... remember Cranmer knew this very well. He is the one who payed of spies and conspirators to kidnap Tyndale and have him burned at the stake. Wherever he made landfall, he would have been arrested. Try and recall who exactly Mary's husband was. The only area out of her husband's sphere of control was France and France would have poured hot sulfur down his throat before being burnt at the stake ... Better take his chances with Mary rather than anywhere else. Cranmer declared Mary a bastard .... enough reason for treason and on top of all that supported Jane's coup
Thank you for sharing this, Claire. Thomas Cranmer has always been such an interesting person to me. The role he played in setting up the "new church"and serving on the Privy Councils for so long is fascinating. I agree with the others who ask why did he not flee with the others when Mary became Queen. Cranmer had to know that Mary would be coming after him. Such a tragic end to an interesting and a very productive life. Thanks again, be well and be blessed.
Who wouldn't have seen this coming? Cramer devised the divorce of her parents, was a patron of the family Mary considered to be enemies, and ultimately supported the crown going to Jane after Edwards death. Of course Mary would have took revenge on him when she became queen. Cant say I blame her too much, but the burning at the stake was very extreme and unnecessary.
Travis Morrisey not for the time. See: Joan of Arc, etc. and having your head hacked off by a sometimes nervous or inexperienced executioner was a bloody nightmare for the unlucky ones, I’m not really sure which was worse.
Remember, this was a time when people died in their 20s, 30s and if you made it to your 40s, you were very lucky. Crammer lived to 66, only to be burned at the stake. Today, it would be like putting someone to death who made it to 100!
S Kenny I thought that was Wolsey lol. You see the Cardinals were wealthy, estate owning politicians, not religious men. ADhere to vows of chastity, poverty and humility ( is that the 3rd one? Lol) On a sunny day in the far north of The Scottish Highlands id say!
I can understand a king not wishing to be ruled by the Pope of the Catholic Church in Rome. Really, the only way to do that was to claim the leadership of the new supplanting church, due to the culture of England at the time.
Ok. I know Mary had a lot of issues but if I didn’t know any better, I’d say she blamed Cranmer for a great deal of her problems if she rejected his recantation
I wonder if, had Mary accepted his recantations, Cranmer would have continued to live a life as a Catholic, or whether he would have tried to flee into exile.
I loved your out fit the green looks good I assumed it was green but it looked good. Poor crammer I'm so happy I was not in those days you had to be careful what you said,do you know what became of crammers wife?
I think Cranmer would have accepted living as a Catholic if Mary had let him live. It was the fact that contrary to usual practice she persisted in having him executed that led to Cranmer's final "Eff you" at his execution.
Loyal to his religious beliefs ???? Seriously ??? The guy who had changed his religion FOUR TIMES at had one more change in religion left to go at that point of time???
@@janyceimoto8750 Cranmer was born a Catholic, became a Reformed then converted back to Catholicism and was ordained a priest, then he converted to Anglicanism and became a Calvinist again and then he converted to back again to Catholicism when Queen Mary got to the throne and the day before he was executed he change back to Protestantism. The guy was simply an opportunist. I am certain he did have religious convictions but his will to power was more important to him than his religious beliefs.
Actually, Queen Mary put very few to death, most of the persons she put to death were more for their politics rather than their religious beliefs and for expediency. All together she had something close to 390 persons executed. Queen Elizabeth on the other hand had 4000 executed for religious reasons, and the rape of women to extract confessions was fairly routine. Her chief torturer Richard Topcliffe (read the wiki article about him) was permitted to take women to his private prison at times for his rape sessions. Much of the melodrama concerning Mary being called bloody Mary was created by the Faux book of martyrs which no academic scholar today takes seriously and merely viewed as sectarian propaganda, the fake news of the day.
Seems to me that Mary was hell bent on revenge for Cranmer annulling her parents' marriage. Once he denounced his religion, he should have been pardoned, but Mary personally intervened so that he should indeed burn at the stake. I wonder why he didn't leave England when Mary was crowned queen? He must have known he was in trouble, even back then!! I can't imagine why he stayed.
It might be that he knew his flight would destroy the credibility of the new faith. Or perhaps he did not believe that Mary would kill him.
@Lenin Lives I agree. Cranmer was dreadful to the max.
Of course, Mary wanted Cranmer executed, this there was no doubt. He was after all the one who declared her a bastard and committed treason supporting the abortive coup of Jane, Hugh Latimer had resigned as bishop to join the Reformed Movement opposing Henry's Articles of Faith. Ridley was an out and out Reformed. They were Calvinists not merely Anglicans. Neither had received papal permission for their ordinations. This fact permitted their quick execution and their trial for heresy was an open and shut case. Not so with Cranmer, who had received papal permission. Cranmer could not flee ... where could he go? France? the Spanish Netherlands? Holy Roman Empire? Wherever he made landfall he would have been arrested. One only has to remember that Tyndale did flee England and was captured by and returned to England where he was found guilty of heresy and burned at the stake by Cranmer himself. There was no way out for him. Remember who Mary's husband was ... there was nowhere for Cranmer to flee to.
@@deusimperator I was the " forgive your enemies " part of Christianity with which Mary had a problem.
@@somyod2u No, the execution was the correct decision when it came to Cranmer. If we forgave everyone, well we are going to have every murderer running loose in society. Cranmer was for worse than any murderer. He had been the architect of the execution of many innocent people Justice must be served. However, we KNOW Mary did make the correct decision in this regard, Cranmer reverted to heresy when he knew his goose was cooked. His abjuring of heresy was in bad faith after all.
What a fool Mary was! Publication of Cranmer's recantation and letting him live afterwatds would have been damaging to the new faith while these grim executions made martyrs.
Amen
Marion Arnott makes me want to move to Spain it seems amazing
Would love to see the room you're broadcasting from. I am intrigued by the window (or niche) behind you. How old is your house. Love the info you provide us with on this wonderful channel.
In one of her videos, I believe she said her house was something like 300 years old!! But I don't recall the exact #.. I'd be interested in a tour as well..
*EDIT* I had to go back & check & its is actually 364 years old! (I believe it's the 3/16/19 video)
Monique Hicks Yeah, she mentioned that it’s really old.
A case of " if these walls could talk"... Imagine what big changes this house has seen...
Sherry Masser me too!
My relatives in England own a pub that has been standing since the 13th century. The Bell pub. It hasnt always been The Bell, but there has always been a pub/tavern in that spot. It was originally a tavern/lodging house used by stone masons working on a local church, which also still stands. Buildings in Europe go way way back. Some of them are older than the US itself lol.
Love your color choices today. Very pretty! 💙💜
I so hope you keep on, how will I live without your amazing daily Tudor reports!! (I just recently received 2 lovely sweatshirts, "On this day in Tudor History Something bad happened..." I kept 1 and I am giving another to a fellow nurse who is a Tudor history buff! Why are nurses Tudor history buffs?? 🤩🥰❤
ALTHOUGH I HATED HISTORY AT SCHOOL YOU HAVE OPENED UP A COMPLETELY NEW UNDERSTANDING AND INTEREST FOR ME OF TUDOR LIFE. YOUR ENTHUSIASM PASSION AND LOVE FOR THIS PERIOD OF HISTORY ILLUMINATES EACH AND EVERY STORY THAT I NOW LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOUR VIDEO DAILY. THANK YOU SO MUCH CLAIRE.
A lot of people are asking why Cranmer didn't flee England when Mary assumed the throne. By the time of his death he was 66 years old and I'm sure he had a whole host of health problems that few know about. Relocating to the continent at his age was most-likely simply unfeasible.
Thanks, that was my read, at his age, I bet he thought he could out whit Bloody Mary, and what Crammer did to her Mother would be overlooked, ( WRONG)
@@ronaldjones5589 Cranmer was one of those types who held no religious convictions whatsoever. He was willing to change with the times. Unfortunately for him, Mary knew he was exactly that, and he suffered (rightly so) a suitable punishment for his transgressions.
He had no where to flee to, not to France, not to the Netherlands and the Holy Roman Empire ... you know who Mary's husband was, right? He could not even go to Russia. Wherever he made landfall he would be arrested
@@deusimperator Well, Mary didn't marry Philip until later.
@@konradvonmarburg7733 Emperor Charles was her cousin, Cranmer would not be fleeing to any territory under his control
Thank you very much, that was very interesting.
Thomas Cranmer must have been an optimist a fool or a very brave man not to flee when Mary took the crown. That said, when he recanted his protestant faith he must have felt deep fear, as only a sane person would. For him in the end to embrace his faith and die for it was the act of a very brave man. All of this in the name of religions! Thank you Claire for your clear delivery. 🐕🐈🔔
Ann Thurain brave? He was a dead man walking. He renounced as they were lighting the dry hay. His last words were not of peace and contrition and reconciliation, Christian ideals Queen Anne spoke of so eloquently before placing her head on the block, no, the Cardinals words were furious and defiant. Not a soul at peace.
All I can say it was brutal back then, during the reigns of Catholic and Protestant Tudor Monarchs. That’s the problem with the absolute authority and rule of the monarchy not held in check by a counter strong institution. Really the Catholic Church was the only thing holding many of these monarchs in check, and I believe that authority that limited his freedom bothered Henry as much as his inability to be granted an annulment by said authority. He didn’t want to have to ask- he was King! And by taking that drastic step to break off, and be excommunicated, he was no longer accountable for anything to anybody. Cool for him. And what they call a judicial system? as far as I can tell it was a total joke. People were hauled off and tortured for confessions. if you’re on the rack I’m sure you’ll say just about anything, including that you xxxx’d your sister when you didn’t. But that’s all the king needs- a confession from somebody- off with her head! if the monarch wanted somebody to die, they would die. All the rest was just for show it’s just ceremony; it’s kabuki theater. And it being kabuki theater, at times those accused used those precious moments to defend themselves the best they could, but it was almost always to no avail. Who was ever judged innocent after being arrested? . Being arrested meant you were counting the days. Unless you were rescued.
Now with all of Cranmers renunciations; was Queen Mary on some sort of vindictive humiliation trip? taunting this fellow with a potential pardon, keeping him going with more renunciations, but irrevocably slipping down that muddy slope to the flames and the wooden post? I don’t know, and I don’t know how personal it was for her in terms of the execution being directly caused by her 20+ year resentment over her parents’ annulment. I suspect many factors were in play and many advisers were consulted. But one we do know is that She also was, like her mother, an extremely devout Roman Catholic, who held onto her faith at great risk for many years, and perhaps in her extreme fundamentalist/Spanish Catholicism really felt like this was a spiritual war she was called upon to defend against heretics (aka Protestants), and she had to stop it. Kinda like The USA taking it upon themselves needing to stop the spread of communism in Southeast Asia: because it’s evil. (The evidence shows that wasn’t such a great crusade either). So I can’t speak for her motivations. However, I’m kind of surprised that he didn’t back away a bit from all of the documents and Doctrines that he was busily writing up for the new Protestant religion whilst the king was on his deathbed given that there was a damn good chance hed have a Catholic monarch forthwith. He didn’t even want to sign the document proclaiming Lady Jane Gray as next in line to the monarchy knowing that was just going to give him more problems, and it did. So, having also broken free from the Roman church to become top dog in England, I think he got way too involved in creating this new church, and was working under time pressure, and boy he did get a lot done but politically? A foolish decision. Then again, even the eloquent Sir Thomas More couldn’t wiggle out of Henry’s demand to acknowledge and submit to him as the Supreening Head Of the Church. LOL.
@@pbohearn Many thanks for info
Where do you think he should have fled to ... there was no where for him to run to. Wherever he made landfall he would be arrested
Thank Ye once again Claire for an episode featuring my 11th GG Uncle Thomas Cranmer!
Windy S Allyn,
Interesting that you can trace your family so far back.
It makes history so real for us all viewing this excellent series.
Thanks for your post.
I cannot think of any death more horrifying than that of burning at the stake.
Do you ever get subconsciously fearful putting on the morning fire in your home?
As soon as Mary took over Cranmer should have seen what was coming. Mary was such a fanatic and she must have been so bitter over her mother's fate. And Henry treated Mary very badly too, just because Katherine wouldn't give him a divorce. What a lousy husband and father he was. Thank you Claire.
Remember, Cranmer declared her a bastard and took part in a treasonous coup against her ... the fact that she permitted him and Jane to live as long as they did discredits the fanatic label
Thomas Cranmer is one of my favorite Tudor citizens his end made me very sad. But Mary was definitely out for vengeance here...this is the Mary I do not like. Thank you for sharing Claire!
He got was coming to him
Sounds like Mary I wanted revenge on Cranmer for dissolving her parents marriage.
That and the fact that he had recanted several times would have made it really hard to trust his word and actions.
It’s sad he burned, but he must have known it was dangerous to stay in England when Mary I ascended the throne.
It’s curious why he didn’t leave when that happened. Maybe he wasn’t well enough for such a journey?
Thank you as always for bringing these daily videos to us!! I love learning about Tudor history, the good, the bad and the ugly. It’s all important.
He actually had no where to run... remember Cranmer knew this very well. He is the one who payed of spies and conspirators to kidnap Tyndale and have him burned at the stake. Wherever he made landfall, he would have been arrested. Try and recall who exactly Mary's husband was. The only area out of her husband's sphere of control was France and France would have poured hot sulfur down his throat before being burnt at the stake ... Better take his chances with Mary rather than anywhere else. Cranmer declared Mary a bastard .... enough reason for treason and on top of all that supported Jane's coup
Thank you for sharing this, Claire. Thomas Cranmer has always been such an interesting person to me. The role he played in setting up the "new church"and serving on the Privy Councils for so long is fascinating. I agree with the others who ask why did he not flee with the others when Mary became Queen. Cranmer had to know that Mary would be coming after him. Such a tragic end to an interesting and a very productive life. Thanks again, be well and be blessed.
🇦🇺 🦘 I'm still catching up on 2019 videos (and others). This - an informative and fascinating video about Thomas Cranmer. "Thank you" Claire 💓👑👍
I sure love history... especially the Tudor period...I must say the early times also...but it sure is my escape..ty Claire!!
Thank you.
Here!
Who wouldn't have seen this coming? Cramer devised the divorce of her parents, was a patron of the family Mary considered to be enemies, and ultimately supported the crown going to Jane after Edwards death. Of course Mary would have took revenge on him when she became queen. Cant say I blame her too much, but the burning at the stake was very extreme and unnecessary.
Travis Morrisey not for the time. See: Joan of Arc, etc. and having your head hacked off by a sometimes nervous or inexperienced executioner was a bloody nightmare for the unlucky ones, I’m not really sure which was worse.
@@pbohearn Those were definitely some dark times. There was to much uncertainty in everything it seems.
All in all, Cranmer lasted quite a while in those dicey times.
Making him wait so long for the verdict was not very christian of them.
Geowyn Leda Now that’s funny!!🤣😂
Surely you don't consider any of these people to actually be Christians.
I’ve always liked Cranmer, and I’m still ticked off that he met this horrific fate.
Do you know who had Tyndale kidnapped and burnt at the stake ... yes same guy
@@deusimperator And Thomas More did plenty as well; no one was exempt from it.
@@RogieVixen Plenty of what?
@@deusimperator burnings
The fires were NEVER out at Smithfield during Bloody Mary's rule, no!?
That is false ... propaganda of the time like the Faux Book of Martyers
Cranmer was executed in Oxford.
Remember, this was a time when people died in their 20s, 30s and if you made it to your 40s, you were very lucky. Crammer lived to 66, only to be burned at the stake. Today, it would be like putting someone to death who made it to 100!
He seemed to be a man that would say anything or change like the wind as long as it advanced his career in some way.
S Kenny I thought that was Wolsey lol. You see the Cardinals were wealthy, estate owning politicians, not religious men. ADhere to vows of chastity, poverty and humility ( is that the 3rd one? Lol) On a sunny day in the far north of The Scottish Highlands id say!
In the end he sought redemption by holding his hand the signed the recantations into the fire that would consume him.
Crammer was a MAN of Any Season
Is it true that Henry weight over 400lbs at the time of his death?
A great day!☺️
I can understand a king not wishing to be ruled by the Pope of the Catholic Church in Rome. Really, the only way to do that was to claim the leadership of the new supplanting church, due to the culture of England at the time.
Ok. I know Mary had a lot of issues but if I didn’t know any better, I’d say she blamed Cranmer for a great deal of her problems if she rejected his recantation
I wonder if, had Mary accepted his recantations, Cranmer would have continued to live a life as a Catholic, or whether he would have tried to flee into exile.
Cranmer by that time had changed his religion 4 times already ... there was no place for him to flee to.
Revenge death for sure... Thank you, Claire! xo
I loved your out fit the green looks good I assumed it was green but it looked good.
Poor crammer I'm so happy I was not in those days you had to be careful what you said,do you know what became of crammers wife?
Go Thomas!!
Mary must have not believed Cranmer's previous recantations. Turns out she was right.
I think Cranmer would have accepted living as a Catholic if Mary had let him live. It was the fact that contrary to usual practice she persisted in having him executed that led to Cranmer's final "Eff you" at his execution.
@@astrinymris9953 Cranmer had by that time change his religion four times with another change left to go ... So very few were buying it
🇺🇸He was a very lucky man but like most of us luck only takes you so far.🇬🇧
So loyal to his religious beliefs. Trying to respect and serve the reigning monarch. Seems an unfair way to die. So were the times of Bloody Mary.
Loyal to his religious beliefs ???? Seriously ??? The guy who had changed his religion FOUR TIMES at had one more change in religion left to go at that point of time???
@@deusimperator thank you for educating me. I am still learning. My comments were based off of what I knew then. Thank you for clarifying.
@@janyceimoto8750 Cranmer was born a Catholic, became a Reformed then converted back to Catholicism and was ordained a priest, then he converted to Anglicanism and became a Calvinist again and then he converted to back again to Catholicism when Queen Mary got to the throne and the day before he was executed he change back to Protestantism. The guy was simply an opportunist. I am certain he did have religious convictions but his will to power was more important to him than his religious beliefs.
Actually, Queen Mary put very few to death, most of the persons she put to death were more for their politics rather than their religious beliefs and for expediency. All together she had something close to 390 persons executed. Queen Elizabeth on the other hand had 4000 executed for religious reasons, and the rape of women to extract confessions was fairly routine. Her chief torturer Richard Topcliffe (read the wiki article about him) was permitted to take women to his private prison at times for his rape sessions. Much of the melodrama concerning Mary being called bloody Mary was created by the Faux book of martyrs which no academic scholar today takes seriously and merely viewed as sectarian propaganda, the fake news of the day.
@@deusimperator I appreciate the insight. Those were difficult times.
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