Spot on... 44 yrs later.... never changes or get's better, just gets worse with age... Our intimacy, sadly has anniversaries', just her lacky now a days... Favorite and her only enemy !!! To leave is to be homeless at nearly 70 and with health issues myself, not that she cares... Thanks Lisa, it helps to know; I am not alone... The internet is all the support I have... sorry if I vent Y'all ! 🥲 hugs...
run my friend. i did 40 years like that but finally walked away.. i accepted financial ruin … but after going no contact… i feel great . this gal Lise knows her stuff .. listen to her ..
Experienced divorce lawyer here (Pennsylvania and New Jersey). I see this every day in divorce court. Stay safe. Stay single! Set firm boundaries or suffer like you have never suffered before.
It all changes for the better in your life after you finally figure out YOU are the one attracting them. Once you figure this out, you stop inviting them and they move on to easier prey really quickly. That sure was a hard lesson to learn....I was the one sending the signals that called them in on me....I invited them....more than once....sigh....never again now that I understand. Hope this helps someone.
I'm sceptical that we can ever truly stop attracting them, though. I think the best that we can hope for is to find a woman within our pattern who's undergone extensive shadow work and has attempted to convert to a secure attachment style. Great comment, though. Cheers!
I haven't been married but I totally understand you as I was in a relationship for over six years and my one year relationship with the narcissist was a million times worse.
No one, no one, that did not experience a relationship with a cluster B disorder, can understand what is be in a relationship with someone that has a cluster B disorder. Do not even try to explain to someone, what you have been through, they just can get it, it is just impossible ! Unfortunatelly, the only way to understand is going on that rollercoster !
You will be treated like gold for months. Everything is hot and heavy - you found the perfect partner who is attentive, affectionate and passionate. The first red flag is they keep sharing their own stories (non stop blabbing from their aide) and don’t seem to be too interested in what’s going on in your life. The convos always switch back to what’s going on with them. Suddenly there is a switch and they are indifferent. For NO reason. There was no argument, no fight - in fact, the night before might have been one of your best nights together. After that switch, they will never ever come back to normal. You will be faced with constant silent treatment. You will be walking on eggshells. The minute you corner them and ask them what the hell is going on - you will be stonewalled. They gain power this way. You will be CONFUSED af. You will do everything you can to have the “old” them back, because you don’t like this new version. What you need to realize is the “old” version never existed. It was a complete lie and act - learned from friends, movies etc. It was a character made just for you - it’s no surprise you had a lot in common and now suddenly you don’t. The person you fell in love with completely disappeared, they are ghost. It is absolutely heartbreaking and devastating. All you see is the same body without the same soul. The more frustrated they see you - the more the run and push you away because they don’t want you to see that it was all a mask. Affection is out the window at this point. They can barely kiss or hold hands, but when earlier you were on their lap 247. The real them came out and the mask is off - they hate any from of emotion or love because they are not capable of it. You will be faced with constant gaslighting and they will try to distort your reality so you don’t see them for who they really are. You need to run like the wind - this relationship only makes you destroyed. Their friends don’t know.. for the covert ones - only their romantic relationship partners can figure it out. Because they are so careful with their image, it’s all about perception management. And one day… after all the cognitive dissonance and sleepless nights and feeling sick to your stomach.. you open TH-cam and it’s a door to all your answers. You are well with a narcissistic psychopath that has no feelings. Leave and never look back. Additionally, If you need to uncover the truth about a cheating narcissist, send your request to *MetaspyHub@gmail.com* for discreet and effective assistance.
As a man who's recently left a marriage, im so grateful the lady who creates these videos gives them in context from the males perspective. Her videos really REALLY helped me to make some very difficult decisions which, in all honesty, I'd have convinced myself otherwise and lived a life in a marriage that identified with every...single trait she discusses in a multitude of this lady's very helpful, informed and constructed uploads in a way that helps a man like me to identify with ACTUAL instances (with a long history of those traits present in retrospect) Thankyou, you've helped me to save my own sanity.
And if you are in denial about how your relationship is somehow "special" and different than all the other Cluster B relationship, listening to Lise for 5 minutes removes any doubt and you find out there is whole blueprint to how these people operate. There is absolutely nothing special about your circumstances save a few irrelevant details.
Excellent video. This isn’t just about female narcissist relationships, but sisters, mothers, friends (minus the withholding sex part). You just described what I’ve experienced with a narc sibling.
I agree. I know relationship narcissism is horrible, but it’s just as much when it’s a family member. Maybe worse in some ways because these people are supposed to be your support system. When a narc family member has control of any situation it’s a nightmare. In my case, a sibling having power of attorney of elderly parent… 3 years of hell
You just explained step by step 200% Exactly what my recently divorced (34) yr old son went through for 8yrs from 2014-2022 . We are thankful he dint take his own life , if it handt been for his saving grace ( two small children) whom adored him IDK what would of happened. SHE is the one who left & just had a child with another man whom is now snared!! We seen the many red flags for years, but his love for her & children kept him trying Harder to his constant state of exhaustion. Once she completed grad school( HE paid for) 30 days after graduation she left. (Thank god) Mentally it almost destroyed him because of his deep love & commitment to her. Thank God 2yrs later he is in a better place. By the way she is lic PMHNP who is now making 3 times more than him & is on meds & seeing a therapist herself for last 2yrs and has taken HIM to court twice so far trying to get soul custody of their small children. We pray nonstop for him & grandchildren. Thank you for telling his story!
Once you get out or are disgarded and after months the trauma bond starts to lift and the cognitive dissodence starts too fade..And your in no contact beware of the hoover , direct or indirect, ignore or block..Doesnt matter what she last said too you and how it ended , they'll be back...Do not give supply , positive or negative...AND DO NOT REACH OUT, block if you can...
I was in a relationship with one for 7 years. She discarded me twice, cheated, triangulation…. Everything said in this video. They are mentally ill but can fake it for quite awhile
Yup me also, yet I’m still Screwed up over her discarding me so cruelly and somehow I still miss her.. I have a horrible trauma bond. like a drug addiction.
Discarded twice, triangulation throughout most of the relationship almost 10 years worth…. Been separated for 5 months and she is in the past week trying to get back in and hook me. Good luck my brothers and keep your head on right and see through the BS!
“God brought you into my life to save me, protect me”. While she is cheating with multiple married men. She looked, sounded and dressed so pure, and sweet, and innocent that the Virgin Mary (which she wore on her neck every day) seemed like a Kardashian in comparison.
I'm always blown away by how spot on you are. I cannot believe that you could describe my wife's behaviors so closely that I feel as if you know her and have observed her behaviors directly. I moved out recently and am wrestling with many emotions right now. Your videos helped me to understand the manipulation and brainwashing I had undergone for the last 18 years with her. The first video I watched was "Tactics and Mind Games of the Female Covert Narcissist". You could have literally read the book of my entire relationship with my wife back to me. I was floored by the realization that she acted exactly as described in that video. I appreciated that video greatly and it helped me gain the confidence and strength to get away from her abuse. Thank you.
This is the exact description of my X wife and now my grown Daughter. My X did it to me for 10 years and my Daughter is doing it in her many failed relationships and with her 3 children by different fathers. She try's to use it on me but I really try to put a stop to it, mostly by creating a distance, and confronting her with her perpetual victimhood! Oh my God it is so disturbing and controlling, there is always more drama that someone else has created....
Lise, you nailed it again! I got out of my narcissistic relationship 12 years ago, and i feel that you just narrated it to a "T". 20 months in it. Got out but was trauma bonded into 12 more months of trying to get back together and breaking up again. Cycle after cycle. Highs & lows rapidly cycling faster and faster. Almost proposed to her during a cycle then we were broken up 7 days later... insane! Then after a year of intermittent contact (big mistake) and dating others, I finally met the most stable, caring woman of my life and we married 3 years later. 10 years later happy, and wish Strength to others walking this road. Go with your gut. Reclaim your true self. Peace!
Good advice about “the more you give, the more secure they feel, the more demanding they become”. Yes indeed. And then the babies came and I was in a gilded cage of dependence. My story is about a husband. Be very careful before you have babies!
I know I've said it so many times but these videos are just incredible. So helpful and all absolutely spot on. It actually gets me through knowing that it's not just one person that tried to ruin my life. Which makes her bit special. It just means there are more demons out there that we have to all fight together.
@10greenbottles1-o9q Hello. Please read this. It was the same with me. I helped people all the time and I feel that The Demon she is, took away every good quality I had and didn't even know I had. Kindness, caring, generous, empathetic... people told me this. And that's who I am and I'm eventually getting back to it. As well as working, I do lots of voluntary work which has helped me find all this again. She did take all the good things away about you. That's what they do. It's all by design. The important thing you have to do first is to forgive yourself.
Bro, similar thing happened to me not so long ago. I was talking to her over the phone while on a trip, was exhausted both mentally and physically because of everything I went trough because of her to the point I LITERALLY WASN'T CAPABLE OF MAKING SENSIBLE SENTENCES WHILE TALKING! Do you know what she said to that? 'Hmmm... seems I won't be getting the talk I came here for' with an extremely condescending tone, as if I was a pair of unusable dirty socks. Needless to say, she dumped me few weeks after and got together with her abusive ex.
As a man who's recently left a marriage, im so grateful the lady who creates these videos gives them in context from the males perspective. Her videos really REALLY helped me to make some very difficult decisions which, in all honesty, I'd have convinced myself otherwise and lived a life in a marriage that identified with every...single trait she discusses in a multitude of this lady's very helpful, informed and constructed uploads in a way that helps a man like me to identify with ACTUAL instances (with a long history of those traits present in retrospect) Thankyou, you've helped me to save my own sanity.
I went through this with my ex wife. I left after 4 years with her. I took 2 years off from dating to be heal and grow. I started dating another woman about 2 months ago and after a month she started acting the same way as my ex. I told her that we were done and she went through all the blaming and name calling. I responded by saying I wish you the best.
god it's like my ex watched this video 20 years ago and went "oooo, I need to write this down and do all of these steps". The line of you're willing to do anything to get even a scrap of affection is so true. A year after I left her and dated someone, it was shocking how much intimacy I got and love I received.
The mask dropped once we got married. Dated 1.5 years, six months into the marriage I remember thinking "I feel like I am hear to just take care of her and her two kids". This is a very accurate video. Blessing in disguise, she left me for another narc
Thanks for opening up my eyes to the toxicity I was submitted into. It's been two years that I was able to walk out--sometimes I feel the need to get in touch again but one of your videos pops up to remind me to keep moving forward. You saved me in many ways Lise ❤
It's been two years since her "mask" came off. I'm over it and happy. When she comes around every now and then to take me off the shelf, it's entertaining... and kind of funny.
This is exactly how my 22 year marriage began. As you said, I rushed in to be the hero. Then the switch flipped and I'm the bad guy and she is the victim. She initiated the divorce last year and it's dragging on with amplified darker versions of the behaviors described here. Her issues and feelings are always more important than mine. Thank you for articulating these concepts in such a direct fashion. I felt like I was losing my mind so it's helpful to get the reassurance that I'm not alone in this experience.
Brian, did you have a support network? My son married one of these women 4 years ago. He cut off all of our family and his friends. How did you make the break? I miss my son, but he thinks he is protecting her and has become enmeshed with her family. I have been searching for answers since it happened.
@@TravelGirl-b6b I'm so sorry this is happening to you and your family. My parents were in a tough position because they were worried about how I'd react if they tried to share their concerns. I probably would have been hurt and it's only now I can appreciate how hard it was for them. A lot of guilty feelings for me knowing I put them through that (but that's all me and nothing they ever did or said). I wish there was an easy answer I could give you. Be present for him as best as you can, be patient with him as best as you can. It may take a long time, but I'm hopeful you'll find your way back to each other. He's lucky to have you. I'm wishing you all the best.
@nyptblueone7734 They are very concerned about their reputation. If you have dirt on them, use it to negotiate. Let them win some stupid battles while you win the war. Never let the enemy know when they are making a mistake.
@@blerimmuka6025 she was so pretty & attractive, I mean there might be prettier girls but I feel like I Won't be attracted to anyone like I was attracted to her. Can this feeling of mine change?
I now often think that after surviving 18 years and 6 months of Narc abuse, if she feels like you found your soulmate, she's probably got serious mental health problems. My narc ex started out as a covert narc, she then got better, there was a good section of that 18 years she was fine and normal, then weirdness returned after the CV19 lockdowns, then out came the overt narc and finally even worse the malignant narcissist.
This is absolutely spot on... It's a shock to hear someone you've never met describe perfectly what you've had to deal with. Thankyou Lise these descriptions really do provide strength and understanding.
The final straw in my relationship with my ex-fiancée came when my father was in his last few days three states away. My ex showed up looking for sex and when I didn’t respond and told her my Dad was DYING there was zero empathy - none. I wrote her the Dear Jane letter the following month. She never spoke civilly to me again.
That was almost *exactly* how it was; there were only a few differences, perhaps because she had BPD too. The day after I'd had an operation, she sent me texts, and in each one of them, she went on and on about herself. Even after I sent her a text that read "I've just had an operation!", she still kept going on about herself. I'm far from perfect, but it's hard to believe that anybody could be that selfish. Another highly accurate, informative video, Lise -- thanks once again! ❤
30 years in. These videos are amazing, the relief! Spent years thinking it was a series of separate weird toxic traits never thought that they could be grouped together as one personality type. Everything is on the button. Knowledge is power. Best way to win is not to play their game!
I did the same… projection, anger disorder, low self esteem, pathological liar, control issues … I had no idea they were parts of one psychological condition. So glad for these videos.
My wife of 12 years fits the description of the CN to a T. Looking back, I can see that she exhibited some of these symptoms at the beginning that continued all the way through. In 2020, a brain anyrism was discovered and she had to have brain surgery. After this, she suffered 4 strokes--the last of which damaged the frontal lobe of her brain. This occurred on mother's day of 2022 and my life has been hell ever since. The stroke seems to have exacerbated the behaviors that she already had under some control. I really do miss her.
Lise! Where were you when I was 20 years old? 10 And 25, and 35 and 45 and .... Well, I finally learned my lesson. Thanks for your great work. I still struggle with this, so your clear message is so helpful in seeing the reality and getting away quickly. Younger guys ... Save yourselves from a lot of suffering and Pay attention! Lise knows her stuff!
The video you created is truly appreciated, as your tutorials continue to shed light on many unanswered questions and alleviate feelings of cognitive dissonance. I found it particularly helpful to hear your insights again, as you delved deeper into the complexities of reactive abuse. You addressed the pattern of on-and-off interactions, along with the smear campaigns and false accusations that often accompany them. Your explanation of circular argumentation really resonated with me, especially how it illustrates the tendency to shift blame when someone refuses to take accountability. It’s frustrating how they change the parameters of the conversation, moving the goalpost whenever it suits them. This behavior can lead to a profound questioning of one’s self-worth, making it clear that the only thing that sustains us is our own sense of self-worth. No matter how wrong they might be, they will twist the conversation to make it seem as though they are right, unable to accept any form of being wrong. This reflects the power struggle they engage in, where reasoning fails to penetrate their defenses. Ultimately, their lack of empathy only exacerbates the situation, making it difficult to find common ground. Thank you for articulating these experiences so effectively; it truly helps to make sense of our own feelings in these situations.
Losing a relationship with a narcissist Is The solution, The moment One finds out someone Is a narc, anathema Maranatha. God Bless and Take care of You All, and deliver US from evil and narcs. Amén 🙏
I was with Covert Narc 5 years,I left 6 mo ago it's tuff, thanks Lisa you are wonderful,so many of us men are not understood about how this vicious behavior is very traumatic most men try to remain strong and tough but I myself have a very sensitive side and she prayed on it thanks again for all you do.
man... i can't even tell how deep this video hits inside of me... everything the video says its basically true... i have experienced this behavior and even the withdraw (Narcissist discard) from my ex... it hurts deep inside but this vids in a way shows to me that this has an explanation and that i have a way to heal (zero contact). So therefore i really hope i can make it
It was pointless to talk to my X, who wasn't open to discussion to work out the relationship. She used controlling, manipulation, and gaslighting to control the relationship. I was walking on eggshells. After a while, my X left me for a rebound guy after a few years together. She thought that the grass was greener on the other side. Now, my X is cashing in her regrets and choices she has made. Yet, she has to much pride to admit to it. There is no coming back for my X. Karma is a biach. I have leveled up, and I am recovering from my X trama bonding.
I’ve been w my wife for 24 years and only recently discovered what NPD is. I feel like a dummy but i also understand how it happened. I had her arrested Saturday night for domestic violence and will be reclaiming my freedom and sanity at 53 years of age.
Excuse me....have you been tracking my relationship for the past 22 years? You have just 100% described my 22 year relationship. I suppose I am still stuck in a trauma bond but with the knowledge I have now I am breaking free, sadly it is a little late in life ,I am 70 soon and she has devastated my confidence to start again with another relationship so I face my remaining days on my own, if only I had known then what I know now, the only positive is our daughter although she is working on distancing her from me . Thank you for your brilliant , insightful and supportive videos .
As someone who had a child with one of the narcissists, I don't get why anybody wouldn't just leave if they are just dating. I absolutely CANT abandon the kid with this monster. My whole life is nothing but passifying this demon of women so our daughter isn't traumatized daily. Its hell.
A truly accurate analysis that captures the process I went through towards the end of my relationship when I started asserting my boundaries. Thank you so much for sharing this content as it has been vital to my recovery and self-awareness. X
I know a lot of lesbians, and bisexual women who have also found these videos helpful. They've found themselves in relationships with a female covert narcissist. Caught in the same type of toxic web. The relationships can be romantic, family, friends, colleagues.
It's good to be armed with this kind of information it helped me spot a situation in progress recently. Still not easy because there's nothing else you just feel sorry for them. And oh yes every hobby every goal every project they get all excited and love talking until you start showing proof like a project you're working on and why the hell did you do that you can see the jealousy and shock and suddenly you get a Vibe like you're bragging! Now it's a competition? Run!
Totally my experience. I love these Monday night reminders of who she really is, as my mind still tries to convince me otherwise. From the beginning she would finish things if there was anything she wasn't happy about, at first I just said fine, go then. But like you say after a while it used to devastate me so I would always give in and grovel to get her back. Looking back it was pathetic, but in the midst of it, it felt like life or death. Thanks again for the reminder of the monster she was.
Giving simple attention to my 10yo son, that is not her's, frightened me every time. Her reactions were random, I never knew where to stand. Stomachache and hands trembling. Thank you so much for helping me realize that I was not the problem.
so true!!this is so true. I had a relationship with her for a year and a half and I couldn't take it anymore and broke up with her, however as soon as I finished I missed this vicious cycle and her charms, dangerous, manipulative and super narcissistic! Today she blocked me and I don't think she would ever talk to me again even though I gave my life for her, I did everything for her, we went on vacation together, we lived side by side so many unique moments but none of that matters because her ego is huge
Every time tried to address the obvious cheating the threats to end the relationship started. Or flipping the script: “why dont you trust me?” Is the starting move
She was passionate about literally everything. She always started by saying "we need to talk". She talked a lot on the phone to her sisters or coworkers. For me those moments were bliss. Fortunately I lost my job and she reconnected with an old college boyfriend going through a divorce. I told her, no, go on ahead and chat. I'll send him a fruit basket or something. I'd buy him a beer but he's in AA. And as far as I can tell he's a decent step dad. The divorce was quick and easy. But me losing a job... And oh yeah, not asking permission to do projects around the house, and having no opinion on anything... That was the recipe to freedom.
My narcissist ex did absolutely all those things BUT i was too much a challenge for her, you see im pretty much a sigma male that will notice such behavior very quickly and i confronted her and called her out alot, she really took the wrong road trying to use me as her supply. when we finished within days she was already posting pics of her and her new relationship on social media. but i wasnt too surprised, narcissist are hunting for and dating new supply while still with you , they always need new going on before their time with you is up. needless to say replacing men on average every 3 - 4 months will mean they will have had sex with many, men indeed , EWWW" LISA really knows her stuff, her description of their behavior is spot on.
As a self-aware diagnosed narcissist, Its uncanny how spot on these videos are! Incredible and ever so helpful to help get out of these awful situations asap, I'm sure Johnny Depp is nodding his head in agreement right now lol
She moved into the guest bedroom last Father’s Day. I am staying for the daughters at this point. She loves the house and status. She can be really nice, and each night heads to the guest room and locks the door. I think her goal, was to have me beg. I think I will read a book instead. There is a lot more going on. She put family over morality, and never wanted a family with me.
Wow I too was used but never moved in together Thank You God ... Take this time to pause Think why or how the things in your character was manipulated into letting Her use you to get what she wants , when you get ready to ask her to leave you should consult a lawyer like Rebecca,prepare for the worst and Hope for the best maybe a protective order ? My ex wife went so far as plotting to collect on my life insurance policy threaten me not to drop it or else etc . They will not leave without starting WW3 in your life ,your Home ... Don't tell Her What you are Going to do document everything argument or threat demand ... That they do evidence for court. Then do not take the bait of arguing with them stay calm nothing to say that they will use against you later...or twist the true... Your life and what you do is no longer include them in conversation or tell them what you are thinking or feeling . Emotionally detach from them they do not have your best interest in what they are doing in your life only what they want...
Still be kind to the children they are being use as you are flowers and things that add value to their lives drawing ,coloring educational ...so they are not involved in the arguments and have a distraction from the chaos they will see how you treat them that you hold nothing against them ... Silence but our actions speak louder than words , God Bless and Protect You 😊
8 almost 9 years i was married to one . I didn't realize the hold she had on me until it was time to heal and rebuild myself. My experience was the ex wife loved playing victim and everything was always my fault in some way . Best thing to do is no contact and working on yourself. over time you will see it was nothing you could do . Co parenting is the complicating point I'm at now because my 11 year old son is the one suffering.
Ma’am, you are like a god to me. You saved me from dying. I was in a very miserable state, not even knowing what had happened to me in my relationship, which made me feel like I was in hell. In such a state, I would have died, but you helped me understand my condition, and you gave me hope to live again. Thank you so much, ma’am, for saving my life. You gave me a reason to live for my mom, dad, brother, and family. Ma’am, a lot of blessings to you."✨ I am from India a 27yr male.
Great video! Unfortunately, my 2 year relationship ended a month ago. The person I believed was the love of my life chose to leave, and I’m still deeply in love with him. No matter what I do, I can’t stop thinking about him. Despite all my efforts to win him back, nothing has worked. I feel so frustrated and can’t imagine being with anyone else. He’s always on my mind, and I miss him more than words can express.
I am terrified that she will do it to my daughter. I love her with all my heart and give her constant love. I am gonna keep the girl loved and actively explain empathy and help her practice empathy with me.
To me, once you are able to see through their projection, that is when you can begin to break the trauma bond. One of the ways that I knew she was a perpetual liar was how she would always rub her nose, which is a sign of deception. Narcissists think they are clever with their manipulation tactics, but they actually are not; they are actually dumb.
Spot on... 44 yrs later.... never changes or get's better, just gets worse with age... Our intimacy, sadly has anniversaries', just her lacky now a days... Favorite and her only enemy !!!
To leave is to be homeless at nearly 70 and with health issues myself, not that she cares... Thanks Lisa, it helps to know; I am not alone... The internet is all the support I have... sorry if I vent Y'all ! 🥲 hugs...
run my friend. i did 40 years like that but finally walked away.. i accepted financial ruin … but after going no contact… i feel great . this gal Lise knows her stuff .. listen to her ..
Poor guy…
The strength required to deal with these demons is emense. Hope you find some peace.
I feel for you I am in a very similar situation same age and she has destroyed me financially and emotionally, stay strong.
@@mdc-ps6pl I hear Ya ... stay strong and take care !
Experienced divorce lawyer here (Pennsylvania and New Jersey). I see this every day in divorce court. Stay safe. Stay single! Set firm boundaries or suffer like you have never suffered before.
It all changes for the better in your life after you finally figure out YOU are the one attracting them. Once you figure this out, you stop inviting them and they move on to easier prey really quickly. That sure was a hard lesson to learn....I was the one sending the signals that called them in on me....I invited them....more than once....sigh....never again now that I understand. Hope this helps someone.
Saving the screen shot thank you
Yeap.
Me too!! All my doing!
I'm sceptical that we can ever truly stop attracting them, though. I think the best that we can hope for is to find a woman within our pattern who's undergone extensive shadow work and has attempted to convert to a secure attachment style. Great comment, though. Cheers!
I blame mom…
My 4 month relationship of THIS was harder then my divorce after 5 years of marriage, but you cant explain this to anyone around you .
Absolutely. A divorce after 13 years was NOTHING like a 10 month entanglement with a narcissist. It’s unspeakable abuse and horror.
I haven't been married but I totally understand you as I was in a relationship for over six years and my one year relationship with the narcissist was a million times worse.
I totally understand you, i had a 3 month relationship with one, we both know all about the mind games and gas lighting and the love bombing dont we.
No one, no one, that did not experience a relationship with a cluster B disorder, can understand what is be in a relationship with someone that has a cluster B disorder. Do not even try to explain to someone, what you have been through, they just can get it, it is just impossible ! Unfortunatelly, the only way to understand is going on that rollercoster !
Try 7 years….
You will be treated like gold for months. Everything is hot and heavy - you found the perfect partner who is attentive, affectionate and passionate. The first red flag is they keep sharing their own stories (non stop blabbing from their aide) and don’t seem to be too interested in what’s going on in your life. The convos always switch back to what’s going on with them. Suddenly there is a switch and they are indifferent. For NO reason. There was no argument, no fight - in fact, the night before might have been one of your best nights together. After that switch, they will never ever come back to normal. You will be faced with constant silent treatment. You will be walking on eggshells. The minute you corner them and ask them what the hell is going on - you will be stonewalled. They gain power this way. You will be CONFUSED af. You will do everything you can to have the “old” them back, because you don’t like this new version. What you need to realize is the “old” version never existed. It was a complete lie and act - learned from friends, movies etc. It was a character made just for you - it’s no surprise you had a lot in common and now suddenly you don’t. The person you fell in love with completely disappeared, they are ghost. It is absolutely heartbreaking and devastating. All you see is the same body without the same soul. The more frustrated they see you - the more the run and push you away because they don’t want you to see that it was all a mask. Affection is out the window at this point. They can barely kiss or hold hands, but when earlier you were on their lap 247. The real them came out and the mask is off - they hate any from of emotion or love because they are not capable of it. You will be faced with constant gaslighting and they will try to distort your reality so you don’t see them for who they really are. You need to run like the wind - this relationship only makes you destroyed. Their friends don’t know.. for the covert ones - only their romantic relationship partners can figure it out. Because they are so careful with their image, it’s all about perception management. And one day… after all the cognitive dissonance and sleepless nights and feeling sick to your stomach.. you open TH-cam and it’s a door to all your answers. You are well with a narcissistic psychopath that has no feelings. Leave and never look back. Additionally, If you need to uncover the truth about a cheating narcissist, send your request to *MetaspyHub@gmail.com* for discreet and effective assistance.
Man this women is a God sent person. No one has nailed it as perfect as this.
Any relationship with. Covert narcissist always starts off great! This is why you move slow and understand them psychologically. Be safe out there!
It's like test driving and inspecting a car prior to purchase.
Its uncanny how spot on these videos are! Incredible and ever so helpful to help get out of these awful situations
Listen to her cheating video. It’s so real it is haunting. You can feel the demons. It honestly chilling.
As a man who's recently left a marriage, im so grateful the lady who creates these videos gives them in context from the males perspective. Her videos really REALLY helped me to make some very difficult decisions which, in all honesty, I'd have convinced myself otherwise and lived a life in a marriage that identified with every...single trait she discusses in a multitude of this lady's very helpful, informed and constructed uploads in a way that helps a man like me to identify with ACTUAL instances (with a long history of those traits present in retrospect)
Thankyou, you've helped me to save my own sanity.
Thank you!
And if you are in denial about how your relationship is somehow "special" and different than all the other Cluster B relationship, listening to Lise for 5 minutes removes any doubt and you find out there is whole blueprint to how these people operate. There is absolutely nothing special about your circumstances save a few irrelevant details.
Excellent video. This isn’t just about female narcissist relationships, but sisters, mothers, friends (minus the withholding sex part). You just described what I’ve experienced with a narc sibling.
Yes. Good comment. I was thinking the same. I can really relate this to my relationship with my mother.
Really wish there was more content about female covert narc siblings who triangulate their elderly parent(s) into the equation as a way to abuse you.
I agree. I know relationship narcissism is horrible, but it’s just as much when it’s a family member. Maybe worse in some ways because these people are supposed to be your support system. When a narc family member has control of any situation it’s a nightmare. In my case, a sibling having power of attorney of elderly parent… 3 years of hell
So on point
This is about a true evil of feminism
You just explained step by step 200% Exactly what my recently divorced (34) yr old son went through for 8yrs from 2014-2022 . We are thankful he dint take his own life , if it handt been for his saving grace ( two small children) whom adored him IDK what would of happened. SHE is the one who left & just had a child with another man whom is now snared!! We seen the many red flags for years, but his love for her & children kept him trying Harder to his constant state of exhaustion. Once she completed grad school( HE paid for) 30 days after graduation she left. (Thank god) Mentally it almost destroyed him because of his deep love & commitment to her. Thank God 2yrs later he is in a better place. By the way she is lic PMHNP who is now making 3 times more than him & is on meds & seeing a therapist herself for last 2yrs and has taken HIM to court twice so far trying to get soul custody of their small children. We pray nonstop for him & grandchildren. Thank you for telling his story!
Once you get out or are disgarded and after months the trauma bond starts to lift and the cognitive dissodence starts too fade..And your in no contact beware of the hoover , direct or indirect, ignore or block..Doesnt matter what she last said too you and how it ended , they'll be back...Do not give supply , positive or negative...AND DO NOT REACH OUT, block if you can...
I was in a relationship with one for 7 years. She discarded me twice, cheated, triangulation…. Everything said in this video. They are mentally ill but can fake it for quite awhile
Yup me also, yet I’m still
Screwed up over her discarding me so cruelly and somehow I still miss her.. I have a horrible trauma bond. like a drug addiction.
Discarded twice, triangulation throughout most of the relationship almost 10 years worth…. Been separated for 5 months and she is in the past week trying to get back in and hook me.
Good luck my brothers and keep your head on right and see through the BS!
@@thismarxtheendforjoo2298 make her sweat it out … she’s seeing if she still has power over you.. these people are sick
“God brought you into my life to save me, protect me”.
While she is cheating with multiple married men.
She looked, sounded and dressed so pure, and sweet, and innocent that the Virgin Mary (which she wore on her neck every day) seemed like a Kardashian in comparison.
Shiiiiiiiit😢
I was sent to her by her deceased father
I'm always blown away by how spot on you are. I cannot believe that you could describe my wife's behaviors so closely that I feel as if you know her and have observed her behaviors directly. I moved out recently and am wrestling with many emotions right now. Your videos helped me to understand the manipulation and brainwashing I had undergone for the last 18 years with her. The first video I watched was "Tactics and Mind Games of the Female Covert Narcissist". You could have literally read the book of my entire relationship with my wife back to me. I was floored by the realization that she acted exactly as described in that video. I appreciated that video greatly and it helped me gain the confidence and strength to get away from her abuse. Thank you.
I got put also
Hang in there soldier. I know its hard. You're NOT alone.
@@clintonnagy1662 Thank you
Same here. It's like she reached into my soul and literally described my life for the past 10 years. It's unbelievable.
This is the exact description of my X wife and now my grown Daughter. My X did it to me for 10 years and my Daughter is doing it in her many failed relationships and with her 3 children by different fathers. She try's to use it on me but I really try to put a stop to it, mostly by creating a distance, and confronting her with her perpetual victimhood!
Oh my God it is so disturbing and controlling, there is always more drama that someone else has created....
Lise, you nailed it again!
I got out of my narcissistic relationship 12 years ago, and i feel that you just narrated it to a "T".
20 months in it. Got out but was trauma bonded into 12 more months of trying to get back together and breaking up again. Cycle after cycle. Highs & lows rapidly cycling faster and faster. Almost proposed to her during a cycle then we were broken up 7 days later... insane!
Then after a year of intermittent contact (big mistake) and dating others, I finally met the most stable, caring woman of my life and we married 3 years later.
10 years later happy, and wish Strength to others walking this road. Go with your gut. Reclaim your true self. Peace!
Sleeping with the Enemy. She feels like a constant threat in the house. Even with the silent treatment.
Good advice about “the more you give, the more secure they feel, the more demanding they become”. Yes indeed. And then the babies came and I was in a gilded cage of dependence. My story is about a husband. Be very careful before you have babies!
I know I've said it so many times but these videos are just incredible. So helpful and all absolutely spot on. It actually gets me through knowing that it's not just one person that tried to ruin my life. Which makes her bit special. It just means there are more demons out there that we have to all fight together.
@10greenbottles1-o9q
Hello. Please read this.
It was the same with me. I helped people all the time and I feel that The Demon she is, took away every good quality I had and didn't even know I had. Kindness, caring, generous, empathetic... people told me this. And that's who I am and I'm eventually getting back to it.
As well as working, I do lots of voluntary work which has helped me find all this again.
She did take all the good things away about you. That's what they do. It's all by design.
The important thing you have to do first is to forgive yourself.
No, I've had these experiences more than once when I was young. I couldn't see reality clearly in the first couple of months.
One of the last things my narc said to me was “I realize I don’t NEED you anymore.”
Bro, similar thing happened to me not so long ago.
I was talking to her over the phone while on a trip, was exhausted both mentally and physically because of everything I went trough because of her to the point I LITERALLY WASN'T CAPABLE OF MAKING SENSIBLE SENTENCES WHILE TALKING!
Do you know what she said to that?
'Hmmm... seems I won't be getting the talk I came here for' with an extremely condescending tone, as if I was a pair of unusable dirty socks.
Needless to say, she dumped me few weeks after and got together with her abusive ex.
As a man who's recently left a marriage, im so grateful the lady who creates these videos gives them in context from the males perspective. Her videos really REALLY helped me to make some very difficult decisions which, in all honesty, I'd have convinced myself otherwise and lived a life in a marriage that identified with every...single trait she discusses in a multitude of this lady's very helpful, informed and constructed uploads in a way that helps a man like me to identify with ACTUAL instances (with a long history of those traits present in retrospect)
Thankyou, you've helped me to save my own sanity.
I went through this with my ex wife. I left after 4 years with her. I took 2 years off from dating to be heal and grow. I started dating another woman about 2 months ago and after a month she started acting the same way as my ex. I told her that we were done and she went through all the blaming and name calling. I responded by saying I wish you the best.
Wow. So accurate. The biggest Hoodwink of my life.
Thank you so much for this vital information
god it's like my ex watched this video 20 years ago and went "oooo, I need to write this down and do all of these steps". The line of you're willing to do anything to get even a scrap of affection is so true. A year after I left her and dated someone, it was shocking how much intimacy I got and love I received.
The mask dropped once we got married. Dated 1.5 years, six months into the marriage I remember thinking "I feel like I am hear to just take care of her and her two kids". This is a very accurate video. Blessing in disguise, she left me for another narc
Thanks for opening up my eyes to the toxicity I was submitted into. It's been two years that I was able to walk out--sometimes I feel the need to get in touch again but one of your videos pops up to remind me to keep moving forward. You saved me in many ways Lise ❤
Thank you for sharing your experience!
It's been two years since her "mask" came off. I'm over it and happy. When she comes around every now and then to take me off the shelf, it's entertaining... and kind of funny.
This is exactly how my 22 year marriage began. As you said, I rushed in to be the hero. Then the switch flipped and I'm the bad guy and she is the victim. She initiated the divorce last year and it's dragging on with amplified darker versions of the behaviors described here. Her issues and feelings are always more important than mine.
Thank you for articulating these concepts in such a direct fashion. I felt like I was losing my mind so it's helpful to get the reassurance that I'm not alone in this experience.
Brian, did you have a support network? My son married one of these women 4 years ago. He cut off all of our family and his friends. How did you make the break? I miss my son, but he thinks he is protecting her and has become enmeshed with her family. I have been searching for answers since it happened.
@@TravelGirl-b6b I'm so sorry this is happening to you and your family. My parents were in a tough position because they were worried about how I'd react if they tried to share their concerns. I probably would have been hurt and it's only now I can appreciate how hard it was for them. A lot of guilty feelings for me knowing I put them through that (but that's all me and nothing they ever did or said).
I wish there was an easy answer I could give you. Be present for him as best as you can, be patient with him as best as you can. It may take a long time, but I'm hopeful you'll find your way back to each other. He's lucky to have you. I'm wishing you all the best.
Make one about how to heal from female covert narc.
Or if you can’t how to best cope so you can survive with the least amount of injury.
there are many on the subject in her channel - one of them th-cam.com/video/cnMdYr-1Zbg/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=LiseLeblanc
@nyptblueone7734
They are very concerned about their reputation. If you have dirt on them, use it to negotiate. Let them win some stupid battles while you win the war. Never let the enemy know when they are making a mistake.
You have to understand that this person is evil. Go no contact, find a new partner and after 2-3 months you gonna feel better.
@@blerimmuka6025 she was so pretty & attractive, I mean there might be prettier girls but I feel like I Won't be attracted to anyone like I was attracted to her. Can this feeling of mine change?
I now often think that after surviving 18 years and 6 months of Narc abuse, if she feels like you found your soulmate, she's probably got serious mental health problems. My narc ex started out as a covert narc, she then got better, there was a good section of that 18 years she was fine and normal, then weirdness returned after the CV19 lockdowns, then out came the overt narc and finally even worse the malignant narcissist.
100% right in my case. She was wonderful in many ways but the passive aggressive sabotage was our doom.
This is absolutely spot on... It's a shock to hear someone you've never met describe perfectly what you've had to deal with. Thankyou Lise these descriptions really do provide strength and understanding.
The final straw in my relationship with my ex-fiancée came when my father was in his last few days three states away. My ex showed up looking for sex and when I didn’t respond and told her my Dad was DYING there was zero empathy - none. I wrote her the Dear Jane letter the following month. She never spoke civilly to me again.
That was almost *exactly* how it was; there were only a few differences, perhaps because she had BPD too. The day after I'd had an operation, she sent me texts, and in each one of them, she went on and on about herself. Even after I sent her a text that read "I've just had an operation!", she still kept going on about herself. I'm far from perfect, but it's hard to believe that anybody could be that selfish. Another highly accurate, informative video, Lise -- thanks once again! ❤
30 years in. These videos are amazing, the relief! Spent years thinking it was a series of separate weird toxic traits never thought that they could be grouped together as one personality type. Everything is on the button. Knowledge is power. Best way to win is not to play their game!
I did the same… projection, anger disorder, low self esteem, pathological liar, control issues … I had no idea they were parts of one psychological condition. So glad for these videos.
If it looks like it's something you ever wanted - it's not real.
My wife of 12 years fits the description of the CN to a T. Looking back, I can see that she exhibited some of these symptoms at the beginning that continued all the way through. In 2020, a brain anyrism was discovered and she had to have brain surgery. After this, she suffered 4 strokes--the last of which damaged the frontal lobe of her brain. This occurred on mother's day of 2022 and my life has been hell ever since. The stroke seems to have exacerbated the behaviors that she already had under some control. I really do miss her.
Spot on! Love coming back to your videos for a reminder of what was, and what wasn't! I feel sorry for her next victim.
Lise! Where were you when I was 20 years old? 10
And 25, and 35 and 45 and .... Well, I finally learned my lesson. Thanks for your great work. I still struggle with this, so your clear message is so helpful in seeing the reality and getting away quickly. Younger guys ... Save yourselves from a lot of suffering and Pay attention! Lise knows her stuff!
It's a no win situation and best avoided to preserve one's dignity and sanity.
The video you created is truly appreciated, as your tutorials continue to shed light on many unanswered questions and alleviate feelings of cognitive dissonance. I found it particularly helpful to hear your insights again, as you delved deeper into the complexities of reactive abuse. You addressed the pattern of on-and-off interactions, along with the smear campaigns and false accusations that often accompany them.
Your explanation of circular argumentation really resonated with me, especially how it illustrates the tendency to shift blame when someone refuses to take accountability. It’s frustrating how they change the parameters of the conversation, moving the goalpost whenever it suits them. This behavior can lead to a profound questioning of one’s self-worth, making it clear that the only thing that sustains us is our own sense of self-worth.
No matter how wrong they might be, they will twist the conversation to make it seem as though they are right, unable to accept any form of being wrong. This reflects the power struggle they engage in, where reasoning fails to penetrate their defenses. Ultimately, their lack of empathy only exacerbates the situation, making it difficult to find common ground. Thank you for articulating these experiences so effectively; it truly helps to make sense of our own feelings in these situations.
Losing a relationship with a narcissist Is The solution, The moment One finds out someone Is a narc, anathema Maranatha. God Bless and Take care of You All, and deliver US from evil and narcs. Amén 🙏
Spot on, clear-cut description of covert narcissistic abuse. Great channel!
Thank you!
I was with Covert Narc 5 years,I left 6 mo ago it's tuff, thanks Lisa you are wonderful,so many of us men are not understood about how this vicious behavior is very traumatic most men try to remain strong and tough but I myself have a very sensitive side and she prayed on it thanks again for all you do.
man... i can't even tell how deep this video hits inside of me...
everything the video says its basically true... i have experienced this behavior and even the withdraw (Narcissist discard) from my ex...
it hurts deep inside but this vids in a way shows to me that this has an explanation and that i have a way to heal (zero contact). So therefore i really hope i can make it
I caught her cheating on me, and I was trying to explain to her friend, and now I’m the bad guy in her flying monkeys
This is her. Now, I have to co parent with her. What a mess!
It was pointless to talk to my X, who wasn't open to discussion to work out the relationship. She used controlling, manipulation, and gaslighting to control the relationship. I was walking on eggshells. After a while, my X left me for a rebound guy after a few years together. She thought that the grass was greener on the other side. Now, my X is cashing in her regrets and choices she has made. Yet, she has to much pride to admit to it. There is no coming back for my X. Karma is a biach. I have leveled up, and I am recovering from my X trama bonding.
I’ve been w my wife for 24 years and only recently discovered what NPD is. I feel like a dummy but i also understand how it happened. I had her arrested Saturday night for domestic violence and will be reclaiming my freedom and sanity at 53 years of age.
Bravo
Excuse me....have you been tracking my relationship for the past 22 years? You have just 100% described my 22 year relationship. I suppose I am still stuck in a trauma bond but with the knowledge I have now I am breaking free, sadly it is a little late in life ,I am 70 soon and she has devastated my confidence to start again with another relationship so I face my remaining days on my own, if only I had known then what I know now, the only positive is our daughter although she is working on distancing her from me . Thank you for your brilliant , insightful and supportive videos .
Thank you very much for adding Turkish to the subtitles, you helped me a lot in a very difficult period.
Once again thank you for the advice! You are right on target. Hearing all this helps me cope.
As someone who had a child with one of the narcissists, I don't get why anybody wouldn't just leave if they are just dating. I absolutely CANT abandon the kid with this monster. My whole life is nothing but passifying this demon of women so our daughter isn't traumatized daily. Its hell.
Im stuck, 😢.
I want it to be real and my brain just lulls me in. I know i need to leave. Just can't yet.
I, truly, hope, you feel better, soon.
Brother, I feel your pain. I’m 72 years old and no way out.
No contact is the way out - detox just like an addiction
Me too... hope you get resolve soon.
Run, no shame in running.
Why would somebody who is so talented at reading people and pleasing them use these powers to enslave and torture them?
A truly accurate analysis that captures the process I went through towards the end of my relationship when I started asserting my boundaries. Thank you so much for sharing this content as it has been vital to my recovery and self-awareness. X
I know a lot of lesbians, and bisexual women who have also found these videos helpful. They've found themselves in relationships with a female covert narcissist. Caught in the same type of toxic web. The relationships can be romantic, family, friends, colleagues.
It's good to be armed with this kind of information it helped me spot a situation in progress recently. Still not easy because there's nothing else you just feel sorry for them. And oh yes every hobby every goal every project they get all excited and love talking until you start showing proof like a project you're working on and why the hell did you do that you can see the jealousy and shock and suddenly you get a Vibe like you're bragging! Now it's a competition? Run!
I sat there with my mouth open like you started this video out saying my name and actually KNOWING this was my marriage , Wow
Been there. Done that. If only I had known ! But I did my best to protect our children. . . Sigh!
Totally my experience. I love these Monday night reminders of who she really is, as my mind still tries to convince me otherwise.
From the beginning she would finish things if there was anything she wasn't happy about, at first I just said fine, go then. But like you say after a while it used to devastate me so I would always give in and grovel to get her back. Looking back it was pathetic, but in the midst of it, it felt like life or death. Thanks again for the reminder of the monster she was.
Wow! It’s like you have a mirror into my 27 year marriage. Glad it’s over. I have not felt this at peace in a very long time.
Thank you for sharing your experience, and I'm so glad you've found peace.
Quality content again Lise 100% accuracy 👌
Wow, what a video to start the year!, simply the exact information that I needed to know. Thank you, Lise, for always taking care of us.
I'm so glad that this video resonated with you.
Nailed it!
Giving simple attention to my 10yo son, that is not her's, frightened me every time. Her reactions were random, I never knew where to stand. Stomachache and hands trembling.
Thank you so much for helping me realize that I was not the problem.
Maaan, I thought I was intelligent, took me 9 years to understand!!
I'm terrified right now of re entering the cycle.
As bad as what Lise is describing, throw a child into the mix. It’s orders of magnitude worse.
😂 I’ll raise you 2 kids and a enabling Mother in law. Triangulation ago-go!!
so true!!this is so true. I had a relationship with her for a year and a half and I couldn't take it anymore and broke up with her, however as soon as I finished I missed this vicious cycle and her charms, dangerous, manipulative and super narcissistic! Today she blocked me and I don't think she would ever talk to me again even though I gave my life for her, I did everything for her, we went on vacation together, we lived side by side so many unique moments but none of that matters because her ego is huge
Every time tried to address the obvious cheating the threats to end the relationship started. Or flipping the script: “why dont you trust me?” Is the starting move
This is exactly what happened to me 100%. Now she's probably doing the same thing to someone else. Thankfully it's not me anymore.
She was passionate about literally everything. She always started by saying "we need to talk". She talked a lot on the phone to her sisters or coworkers. For me those moments were bliss. Fortunately I lost my job and she reconnected with an old college boyfriend going through a divorce. I told her, no, go on ahead and chat. I'll send him a fruit basket or something. I'd buy him a beer but he's in AA. And as far as I can tell he's a decent step dad. The divorce was quick and easy. But me losing a job... And oh yeah, not asking permission to do projects around the house, and having no opinion on anything... That was the recipe to freedom.
Thanks for this!
You're welcome! I hope you found it helpful.
This was my life till my savings were gone.. and then she found her new soulmate.
My narcissist ex did absolutely all those things BUT i was too much a challenge for her, you see im pretty much a sigma male that will notice such behavior very quickly and i confronted her and called her out alot, she really took the wrong road trying to use me as her supply. when we finished within days she was already posting pics of her and her new relationship on social media. but i wasnt too surprised, narcissist are hunting for and dating new supply while still with you , they always need new going on before their time with you is up. needless to say replacing men on average every 3 - 4 months will mean they will have had sex with many, men indeed , EWWW" LISA really knows her stuff, her description of their behavior is spot on.
The switch flip always were out the blue. This is all true.
As a self-aware diagnosed narcissist, Its uncanny how spot on these videos are! Incredible and ever so helpful to help get out of these awful situations asap, I'm sure Johnny Depp is nodding his head in agreement right now lol
Thank you, Lise 🙏
You're welcome! I'm so glad you found it helpful!
Right on the money. Thanks Lise.
Alt yazılılara türkçe eklediğiniz için çok teşekkür ederim, çok zor bir dönemde bana çok yardımcı oldunuz.
She moved into the guest bedroom last Father’s Day. I am staying for the daughters at this point. She loves the house and status. She can be really nice, and each night heads to the guest room and locks the door. I think her goal, was to have me beg. I think I will read a book instead. There is a lot more going on. She put family over morality, and never wanted a family with me.
Wow I too was used but never moved in together Thank You God ... Take this time to pause Think why or how the things in your character was manipulated into letting Her use you to get what she wants , when you get ready to ask her to leave you should consult a lawyer like Rebecca,prepare for the worst and Hope for the best maybe a protective order ?
My ex wife went so far as plotting to collect on my life insurance policy threaten me not to drop it or else etc .
They will not leave without starting WW3 in your life ,your Home ... Don't tell Her What you are Going to do document everything argument or threat demand ... That they do evidence for court. Then do not take the bait of arguing with them stay calm nothing to say that they will use against you later...or twist the true... Your life and what you do is no longer include them in conversation or tell them what you are thinking or feeling . Emotionally detach from them they do not have your best interest in what they are doing in your life only what they want...
Still be kind to the children they are being use as you are flowers and things that add value to their lives drawing ,coloring educational ...so they are not involved in the arguments and have a distraction from the chaos they will see how you treat them that you hold nothing against them ... Silence but our actions speak louder than words , God Bless and Protect You 😊
Right on the money!!! Thank you for getting these videos out.
Thank you for watching!
Need to listen to this daily to remind why I can't be with her!!!!!!
8 almost 9 years i was married to one . I didn't realize the hold she had on me until it was time to heal and rebuild myself. My experience was the ex wife loved playing victim and everything was always my fault in some way . Best thing to do is no contact and working on yourself. over time you will see it was nothing you could do . Co parenting is the complicating point I'm at now because my 11 year old son is the one suffering.
Thank you, Lise.
You're welcome! I'm so glad you found it helpful!
Ma’am, you are like a god to me. You saved me from dying. I was in a very miserable state, not even knowing what had happened to me in my relationship, which made me feel like I was in hell. In such a state, I would have died, but you helped me understand my condition, and you gave me hope to live again.
Thank you so much, ma’am, for saving my life. You gave me a reason to live for my mom, dad, brother, and family.
Ma’am, a lot of blessings to you."✨
I am from India a 27yr male.
Thanks for your information 🙂👍
That is exactly how it is! Template?
It’s made me check out completely.
Any semblance of interest is met with suspicion))
i had this 3 years its like a black hole
Insanity sounds spot on to my X
Going through a complicated 5 year divorce. This sucks. Thank you for your advice. Why do you choose to assist men in a bad spot?
Great video! Unfortunately, my 2 year relationship ended a month ago. The person I believed was the love of my life chose to leave, and I’m still deeply in love with him. No matter what I do, I can’t stop thinking about him. Despite all my efforts to win him back, nothing has worked. I feel so frustrated and can’t imagine being with anyone else. He’s always on my mind, and I miss him more than words can express.
Thank you so much for the suggestion; it means more to me than you know.
Very helpful thank you 👍🏻
I love her shes leaving me, says im a covert narc, maybe i am
Omg soo true. You nailed it!!! Wow I wish I would of found this over $10,000 ago
I am terrified that she will do it to my daughter. I love her with all my heart and give her constant love. I am gonna keep the girl loved and actively explain empathy and help her practice empathy with me.
Thank you 🙏
You're welcome! I'm glad you found it helpful.
To me, once you are able to see through their projection, that is when you can begin to break the trauma bond. One of the ways that I knew she was a perpetual liar was how she would always rub her nose, which is a sign of deception. Narcissists think they are clever with their manipulation tactics, but they actually are not; they are actually dumb.