The Prelude to Civil War - How Missouri became a battleground in the American Civil War - Part 1

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  • The war in the Trans-Mississippi theatre has often been viewed with secondary importance when looking at the American Civil War. The area never had the large armies of the Eastern or Western theatre. Despite this, the outcomes of the battles fought west of the Mississippi impacted the course of the war more deeply than that. In this series we will examining the battles fought in Missouri and Arkansas during 1861 and 1862 and explore how these struggles affected the war. During this episode we will look at the outbreak of war in Missouri and see how the two sides struggled for this key border state in 1861.
    This is our first video on the channel, and part 1 of our series. Next part will explore the dramatic Battle of Wilson's Creek. We hope you like the content that we are making, and will subscribe to follow the channel.
    Sources used in the video:
    Cutrer, Thomas W., Ben McCulloch and the Frontier Military Tradition, University of North Carolina Press, 1993.
    Knapp, George E., Wilson’s Creek Staff Ride And Battlefield Tour [Illustrated Edition], Pickle Partners Publishing, 2014
    Knight, James R., The Battle of Pea Ridge: The Civil War Fight for the Ozarks - Civil War Series, Arcadia Publishing, 2012.
    Luebbering, Dr. Ken, Missouri State Archives Presentation Videos - I Goes to Fight mit Siegel: Missouri's Germans and the Civil War Video Transcript, 2008, www.sos.mo.gov... [14.09.21]
    National Parks Service - The Battle of Wilson's Creek - Stories, www.nps.gov/wi... [16.09.21]
    Smith, Sam, Moments in Time - Wilson's Creek, Introduction - Part V, www.battlefiel... [22.08.21]
    The Civil War Muse - Skirmish at Dug Springs, www.thecivilwar... [02.09.21]
    Historic Missourians - Claiborne Fox Jackson, historicmissou... [05.09.21]

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  • @illinoismotionpicturestudi5065
    @illinoismotionpicturestudi5065 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    How do you have so little views with this amazing video? Great work, Missouri always gets pushed to the side.

    • @cortwill4085
      @cortwill4085 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      RIGHT!?!?! 24,279 views but, only 495 likes? That's messed up, yo...😒

  • @EndlessPraiseEnsemble
    @EndlessPraiseEnsemble 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    My ancestor, Marquis (Marcus) DeLafeyette Rose was in the 4th Missouri Calvary (Union). He joined in 1862 so he was part of the railroad defense in Northern Missouri. He lived and died in Warrensburg.
    Thank you so much for this video! Missouri Civil War history is not as well known .

  • @2012photograph
    @2012photograph 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Alot these Generals is first time brought my attention.Thank you for knowledge on Civil War

  • @shellnexus1
    @shellnexus1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Can’t believe I’m a whole year late but this is great content and deserve more views!!

    • @TheJoeboy94
      @TheJoeboy94 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There are more videos coming in future!

    • @cortwill4085
      @cortwill4085 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @shellnexus1 , RIGHT 😂!?!?
      @TheJoeBoy94 , hopefully!🤞😂🤞

  • @sunbather1576
    @sunbather1576 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Incredible video and incredible series. As a wargamer, I love how you explained the rather unstructured OOB of the pro-Confederate troops @16:22. This and everything else is all the more valuable since there are so few books about this part of the Civil War. Thank you for your effort with this series, I imagine a lot of hours went into this!

  • @missouriolddognewtricks23
    @missouriolddognewtricks23 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very good video! Informative and entertaining. I will watch more like this.

  • @stoppotsstabbats
    @stoppotsstabbats 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is great !! The more detail, the better !!! Thank you for your time

  • @TheAnarchitek
    @TheAnarchitek หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had a lot of outlaws, er, relatives, from the west-southwest part of Missouri. Both side of my maternal grandparents came out of that neck of the woods. Their families had traveled from eastern Kentucky/Tennessee, in search of better farmland. My great-grandpa raised prized horseflesh. Prized by outlaws, it's said, who often traveled from as far away as 300 miles for one of his ponies. He went into the phone business, in the early days of Oklahoma statehood.

  • @tomotto3197
    @tomotto3197 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Outstanding detail, (none of the others catch) I have to watch it over and over again to catch all the detail.

  • @dadbot8480
    @dadbot8480 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He’s one of the best with just four videos

  • @NecroMalkor
    @NecroMalkor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What a video! Great work, keep grinding my friend, this channel is such a hidden gem :P

  • @gyrospinup
    @gyrospinup ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Lincoln told the Missouri governor that Missouri could stay neutral then soon invaded St. Louis. The Missouri river also at St Louis could get confederate supplies to KC and to the west which would be a serious problem for the union. The CSA ended up relying on small river boats going up the White river to SW Missouri which couldnt transport much.

  • @baxtermason6909
    @baxtermason6909 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ...great video...better coverage than I have found elsewhere...keep up the good work...BM.

  • @STLguy
    @STLguy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video

  • @inet9794
    @inet9794 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is so cool, great animations. I learned so much. More videos please!!

    • @TheJoeboy94
      @TheJoeboy94 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The 2nd part has some juicy action in it if you haven't checked that one out yet!

  • @NefariousKoel
    @NefariousKoel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I always found it interesting how some border states wanted to remain in the Union but didn't want to go to war. Yet, as seen here in MIssouri, Union generals went on the offensive to seize these "neutral" states by force. In this case, it drove more in the state to switch sides and fight against them. Makes you wonder what would've happened had there been less aggressive Union leadership handling the situation, and whether the ensuing bloodshed would've happened as it did.

    • @avenaoat
      @avenaoat ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The border states gave more soldiers to North than to the Confederacy. Only exception the future West Virginia state (from 1863), which gave 50%-50% soldiers to the North and the South! St Louis, Ozark region and the Iowa border strips with low % slaves population were mainly prounionist areas in Missouri, but the Little Dixie with 17-35% slave population were the main proconfederat area in the central Missouri.

    • @jeremyvolland8508
      @jeremyvolland8508 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      In the case of Missouri, it was not only the Union that was pushy. Both sides refused to allow Missouri to be neutral in the war. I would guess it was the same in other cases.

  • @TheJoeboy94
    @TheJoeboy94 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looking Forward to the next one!

  • @carlkelly2900
    @carlkelly2900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well done

  • @cartert2
    @cartert2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’m glad to see a video of the Trans-Mississippi theater and particularly Missouri but, this has several minor mistakes, from mispronunciation of names and places, to actual facts. None of them takes away from the overall history but are an annoyance when you’ve spent nearly a lifetime researching the war in this region. An example of the mistakes I feel should be corrected is the casualties at Carthage. It appears the writers took the casualties straight from Wikipedia without double checking. In the book The Battle of Carthage: Border War in Southwest Missouri, by David C. Hinze and Karen Farnham (1997) they give Missouri State Guard losses at 12 killed, 64 wounded and 1 missing. They do say that they are unsure if the walking wounded were counted, which could place casualties higher. This is one of only two book length accounts of the battle that I’m aware of the other being, The Battle of Carthage, Missouri: First Trans-Mississippi Conflict of the Civil War by Kenneth E. Burchett (2012). The other mistake is the location of Price’s camp on Cowskin Prairie, the video claims it to be in Arkansas but, it was in Missouri, 4 miles north of the Arkansas border and 4 miles east of Oklahoma, near present day Southwest City, in McDonald County, MO. Price would not be ran out of the state until February 1862.

  • @zebulonyork2896
    @zebulonyork2896 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome piece of work!

  • @darthvadersith514
    @darthvadersith514 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video! And thank you for pointing out that Jackson and Price were in communication with Jefferson Davis and asked him for weapons before the Camp Jackson Affair even started! How can anyone possibly call those guys "neutral" and what Lyon and his forces were doing "illegal" (as some Missourians still do to this day) when they were already in cahoots with the Confederacy? If Lyon had done nothing, the St. Louis Arsenal would have been attacked, and you would have had a repeat of the Fort Sumter attack.

    • @fandoria09
      @fandoria09 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And a much different outcome in our early history.

    • @gyrospinup
      @gyrospinup ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Lincoln started moving troops into St Louis soon after he agreed that Missouri could remain neutral. The Missouri governor didn't like that Lincoln had lied to him. Lincoln knew that the Missouri river at St Louis could allow CSA supplies to get to KC and on westward. Lincoln knew that he couldn't keep the agreement, and the governor also knew it. The arsenal was state, not federal. Lincoln was violating state rights by blocking access to state weapons with federal troops.

    • @bigschnieders1931
      @bigschnieders1931 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@gyrospinupLincoln manipulated the war.

    • @bigschnieders1931
      @bigschnieders1931 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I disagree, what we need to bring back is genuine federalism which recognized the Free, Sovereign and Independent status of the States. Restoring agency of the general government.
      As James Madison explained:
      “The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State. The operations of the federal government will be most extensive and important in times of war and danger; those of the State governments, in times of peace and security. As the former periods will probably bear a small proportion to the latter, the State governments will here enjoy another advantage over the federal government. The more adequate, indeed, the federal powers may be rendered to the national defense, the less frequent will be those scenes of danger which might favor their ascendancy over the governments of the particular States. If the new Constitution be examined with accuracy and candor, it will be found that the change which it proposes consists much less in the addition of NEW POWERS to the Union, than in the invigoration of its ORIGINAL POWERS. The regulation of commerce, it is true, is a new power; but that seems to be an addition which few oppose, and from which no apprehensions are entertained. The powers relating to war and peace, armies and fleets, treaties and finance, with the other more considerable powers, are all vested in the existing Congress by the articles of Confederation. The proposed change does not enlarge these powers; it only substitutes a more effective mode of administering them.”

    • @gyrospinup
      @gyrospinup ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bigschnieders1931 People do not now nor then understand that states had the right to resign from the union, same as the country resigned from England in 1776. The amount of slaves was already drastically decreasing and only very few owned slaves considering the population. The states that resigned did not do so strictly due to slavery. Being overtaxed and told not to have commerce with other countries for products that Lincoln wanted businesses to practically give for free to the highly populated North was a major part of it. In certain states such as Missouri and Kentucky, in which he promised could stay neutral, Lincoln caused brothers to fight against brothers which is unacceptable. People need not to look at it as if they would have been a yank or reb during the war and look at the whole picture unbiased. They will then notice how the feds disobeyed the constitution. People had better open their eyes with how it's being done right now.

  • @davidsabo405
    @davidsabo405 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👑

  • @avenaoat
    @avenaoat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Lincoln avoided the abolition for two years, because he wanted to hold the border states in the Union. So every leader who was messed with emantipation, Fremont, Butler, Cameron etc Lincoln chenged them. (Butler in New Orleans wanted the French and UK citizens to free their slaves, because the UK and France laws forbade the slavery and this caused diplomatic affairs with UK and France.) He changed only his policy after the battle of Antietam! Missouri 9% slaves, Kentucky 19% slaves, Maryland 12% slaves, Delaware 2% slaves and the future West Virginia 5% slaves. Lincoln was succesful to hold the border states with minimal problem except for Missouri. Missouri's problem originated from the bleeding Kansas pre Civil War so the small Dixie (where many slaves lived) was strong Confederat sentiment area during the true Civil War.

  • @hherlevdk
    @hherlevdk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Best part of the video was the hot potato

    • @TheJoeboy94
      @TheJoeboy94 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It always will be

  • @kenttucson2830
    @kenttucson2830 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At 16.54 time stamp they spelled Missouri "Missuri". Hmmm. New spelling for the State? Should be changed.

    • @aleafox1675
      @aleafox1675 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I noticed that too. I like the spelling better, "Missuri"' rather than "Missouri". Who changed the spelling?

  • @avenaoat
    @avenaoat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    BTW the only slavery system state was Missouri where Republican Lincoln won in any counties in the election of 1860. for example StLouis. Lincoln got 10% of the vote here! In Kentucky or Maryland Lincoln got about 2000 vote only. In the more slavery system states Lincoln's vote were almost 0.

    • @avenaoat
      @avenaoat ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In Virginia (later West Virginia) Hancock county was where almost Lincoln won in 1860. alone in all Virginia. In Delaware Lincoln got many votes same to Missouri.

  • @DingaLingu
    @DingaLingu 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Show me

  • @crowmance2855
    @crowmance2855 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Wait, which country fought in this war?"
    - Joe Biden, 2021.
    The sad reality of current US politics aside, the video's professionalism is impressive. Its factuality, editing and narrating are all on point, so keep up the good work.

    • @willynilly570
      @willynilly570 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wait, he said that? About the Civil War?

    • @crowmance2855
      @crowmance2855 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@willynilly570 I hope not, but it wouldn't surprise me. Joe Biden cannot even spell his name with crayons.

    • @aleafox1675
      @aleafox1675 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@willynilly570 Who knows, most of the time he babbles, so he could have said that. LOL

    • @willynilly570
      @willynilly570 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aleafox1675 Believe it or not, it is often possible to know whether something is true.

  • @aqua6613
    @aqua6613 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really enjoyed this video but im really trying to pin point the slight accent i hear when you pronounce Missouri...your S and Rs make me suspect a Finnish background 😅
    Supmalainen Sisu! 🇫🇮

  • @johnnyd5687
    @johnnyd5687 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video