MANCHESTER BUILDING BOOM #24 | Massive Changes IN Salford Greengate
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 มี.ค. 2023
- Greengate is the area in Salford, just to the west across the River Irwell from Manchester's Medieval Quarter. Astonishing transformation is taking place as new residential towers are springing up in what was a run-down former industrial area.
0:00 Introduction by AidanEyewitness
It's just a ten-minute walk from the city centre and yet this area lay undeveloped for decades. Things started happening a few years ago with the construction of the Abito apartment building and neighbouring residential developments. Now things are gathering pace with the construction of Collier's Yard and the project taken over by Legacie Developments, renamed Embankment Exchange
The contrast with its previous state couldn't be more extreme. A former run-down industrial area with old industrial units, empty spaces, many used as car parks, showing the vestigates of the industrial revolution. Soon this will be a newly-created residential area of tall buildings full of stylish apartments, many with spectacular views over the Manchester conurbation.
I always look forward to reading comments and can often reply straight away. Please tell me your impressions of the new Manchester and Salford and if you can identify the crest on the wall of the Exchange Station viaduct, I'd be very happy!
I worked in the city centre between 1999-2008 and used to park in large carpark on right side of strangeways.... Wow how things have changed since. I set up my own practice in 2008 and worked from home ever since to this present day. Love Manchester and fan of the blue half 💙
The large car park was the site of the old Boddington’s brewery, now occupied by the new campus of The Manchester College. Great to hear your personal reminiscences! Many thanks for your comment!
@@AidanEyewitness also loving your material and channel. Amazing work you are doing and always look forward to your new videos 👌
Nice to hear that work has resumed on the abandoned tower. I heard the Trinity island development has also begun with foundation works currently ongoing! Exciting stuff.
Yes, I featured the Trinity Island construction site in my previous Manchester SW video recently. It will be interesting to see it as it develops and I want to see that observation tower they said they are going to have!
i lived in greengate 40 years ago and it has changed so much and for the better
You lived there? That must have been an experience! Many thanks for your comment
Thank you Aidan. These videos are just amazing. I lived in Wythenshawe and Stockport before moving to Singapore 30 years ago. It’s wonderful to see the progression of Manchester through your videos. Please keep up the good work.
Many thanks, a fantastic expression of support. I document Manchester because I've been interested in it since I was a child and I also have a lot of photos I've taken that I can use in the videos alongside the preset day clips and a lot of knowledge to share. It's fun making videos and very satisfying to see the views mount up but most of all getting positive comments!
@@AidanEyewitness you’re more than welcome. The amount of work you put into your uploads is more than evident. The next time I’m back in Stockport I’ll buy you that pint.👍🙏
I like how fast moving your videos are. I had to pause the video periodically to take it all in. It seems to match the pace of the changes, which are astonishing.
That's very interesting. I actually speed up the recording of the voiceover by about 10 per cent. I normally speak it a little bit slower to minimise mistakes. It takes me quite a while to do the voiceover as I read it out, with lots of mistakes and repetitions, then I painstakingly edit it, removing the sounds of breath and other extraneous noise. Finally I use 'change tempo' in Audacity to increase the speed by 10%. I thought it was maybe too much, but glad to hear your comment. It holds peoples' attention, there is a lower rate of people clicking away!
@@AidanEyewitness Dara does the same thing, painstakingly removing all extraneous pauses and sounds, it takes a lot of work but makes a video flow much better and it also sounds more professional. Very few vloggers go to this trouble. She doesn't speed up the voiceover though. That's a new one for me.
Salford is Manchester really. I'd amalgamate them. Great video.
Hmmm, I think you would have to put that idea to the councillors and citizens in the City of Salford and see what their reaction is. What would you call it? "Salchester"? That was a humorous proposal by a Salford councillor about 20 years ago and it was picked up in the media. For various reasons I predict it will never happen, though it would probably be a very good idea! I must do a video on that!
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..... Or call it 'Manford'.
@@choncord Well as I’m sure you are aware, there’s a comedian called Jason Manford! He’d be pleased. It has already been done - Buda and Pest became Budapest. But we need to include all the Greater Manchester districts so let’s call it the City of BBROTSMST. Joking apart it was called Selnec from 1969-1974.
Wikipedia: [City status was granted in 1926,] in spite of the opposition of civil servants in the Home Office who dismissed the borough [County Borough of Salford] as "merely a scratch collection of 240,000 people cut off from Manchester by the river [Irwell]." !
All Lancashire’s boroughs had there own bus livery. Oldham’s was Crimson and Cream. The second part of my autobiography is called Crimson and Cream.
I'm coming up to Manchester for a weekend in mid-April. Can't wait.
Great to hear that, enjoy your visit!
Ha ha, my dad attended Chetham's back in the fifties and I agree it's a shame they didn't keep that facade.
Great video tour thanks Aidan. Used to go to Highland House on official business back in the late 70s.
Interesting. I always like to hear about people's personal associations with buildings.
Excellent work sir…. subscribed
Many thanks for subscribing. I really want to reach a wider audience, but the only way is to keep making videos and I will!
This was my city 22 years ago, been stuck in Milton Keynes since then, hopefully get back home this year where fam is. I once evacuated the Co-op building in the 90's, trying to drill through wood with a metal bit while installing a computer network... naaa m8 wasn't me, I've no idea why the fire engines are here :D
Fascinating story. I once taught English to three Spanish girls in the board room of the CIS on the 23rd floor. They took a lot of selfies! Hopefully you can make it back from exile!
@@AidanEyewitness Cheers, I like your story as well ;)
Hi Aidan, as a Salfordian living abroad, i really do appreciate the updates you do and time you give to them. I do love the change in the city but i wish (1) there was a bit more creativity in what is built, I now live in Poland and the skyline here in Warsaw is a great example of what can be done with right planning process and creativity. I do worry Manchester skyline is a becoming a bit disjointed and some of what is built is quite dull to say the least. I love the embankment buildings, they look great from the cathedral and shape really fits - clearly an architect that thought about the surroundings and how the building not only fits but also improve them (2) that manchester was still affordable for young people. It seems more and more difficult for the younger generation to get on the ladder.
That’s very interesting. What can Manchester learn from Warsaw? Good video title? I visited Warsaw a long time ago, it was bleak then, but I know it has changed a lot. The points you make are all valid. Many thanks for commenting.
@@AidanEyewitness Yes it's really changed incredibly, I guess a few things that Manchester could do: (1) focus on clusters - I know they try this with end of deansgate, but skyline looks a bit unplanned in manchester (2) mixed use - seems most towers in manchester are residential and for me that's meant that places like the new towers in deansgate feel a bit cut off and isolated (3) innovative design, warsaw made some errors early after communism, but recent builds like Varso tower, warsaw spire, warsaw trade tower, warsaw unit and slot 44 are all quite imaginative in design.
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@@jamesgkrk Great suggestions. Warsaw looks great with the new tall buildings. When I was there the Stalinist wedding cake building was the only tall building! I must go back!
Love this !
Oh thank you very much!
How far is Manchester going I guess.. Thank You Very Much
Thanks for your comment.
More Chicago echoes: the Greengate & Irwell (and its replacement) remind me of the Great Lakes Building; the Palatine Bldg of the Montgomery Ward Complex ...
Ah, I can see in a photo there is a similarity - The Great Lakes Building 180 North Wacker, and there is a similarity in the facade of the MW complex. The most strikingly similar building in Chicago to one in Manchester is the Inland Steel Building, which inspired Manchester's CIS building.
@@AidanEyewitness Yes indeed - and I am pleased to have seen both
Viaduct commemorative stone - Lion representing the Lancashire County coat of arms and the wheatsheaves represent the Cheshire coat of arms?
Yes, the three sheaves are the symbol of Cheshire, but the symbol of Lancashire on the coat of arms is three red roses. The station was built by the original London and North Western Railway but that is not their coat of arms! Many thanks, hopefully someone can identify it for certain.
@@AidanEyewitness Thanks Aidan!
A 2019 publication with an oddly unrecognised ISBN by the archaeological consultants PCA, _Exchange Station, Greengate, Salford: The history and archaeology of a transformed urban landscape,_ identifies the plaque as "...bearing the Salford City Coat of Arms set into the western elevation of the viaduct". I'm sceptical about this as, although the escutcheon of the old City and County Borough of Salford displays the three garbs of the Cheshire Earls as you say, I can't find a ready connection to the lion rampant atop lozengy. You could be right about the lion being a reference to the supporters of the Lancashire or (Greater) Manchester escutcheons.
@@BsktImp It remains a riddle! Many thanks for researching this. :)
@@AidanEyewitness No probs, was just an internet search. The pdf of the book is at diggreatermanchester.
If anyone is interested Henley and Partners now have Manchester at number 9 in Europe for millionaires. It is above Milan. The cities above it are all capitals, Frankfurt which is Germany’s financial centre, and Swiss cities which are always a bit suspect as Switzerland tends to be the counting house for everyone else. Manchester has 24.500 millionaires. 72 of those worth over 100 million and 12 billionaires. Apart from Edinburgh and obviously London it is the only city anywhere in the U.K. in the list and its peer cities are nowhere.Does Rishi Sunak realise what he has done in cancelling HS2 between the richest and 9th richest cities in Europe? Utter madness. It is the equivalent of there being no high speed trains, between Milan and Rome and Madrid and Barcelona.
Excellently argued and expressed, and you left the punchline to the end. I agree 100%. Unfortunately I didn’t quite make it onto that list this year, maybe next year! :) Manchester has 24,500 millionaires? that’s one in 100 across Greater Manchester.
@@AidanEyewitness 😂. I don’t think Westminster have cottoned on to how big a player Manchester is, internationally now.
For anyone here that lives in Manchester or Salford, if one lives near the city center, is it feasible to live without a car?
I think if you live in or close to the city centre, it is quite feasible to live without a car, as long as you don't have to get to somewhere out of town, not so well served by public transport. You can always hire a car if you need to. That's what I did a while back. Are you thinking of moving to Manchester?
@@AidanEyewitness more just knowledge collecting for a future move. I've been back in the States since 2014 after having lived in Huntingdonshire for 8 years. If/when we move back to the UK, I'd really like to be less car dependent for sure. I'm in a suburb in South Carolina, and everything, no matter how simple, is a drive.
@@ScottTooley Well I’m glad you’re looking at my channel to find out information. I’ve visited the US several times and the dependence on the car is noticeable, though not do much on Manhattan where I had a 3-month student summer job.
Those black glass buildings are absolutely foul...he must have been a psycho that designed them ....er very archontic ....( The archons of nag Hamadi texts ) .
They do look very stark, like structures from a science fiction movie but they did receive an award though.
That Premier Inn tower in Manchester is so painfully ugly.
Oh, I don't think so! Beauty is in the eye of the beholder! I'd be interested to know which buildings in Manchester do you find attractive?
05:26 Off-topic, anyone know why flats in Abito are frequently for sale at I what I naively imagine are very low prices for somewhere so close to Manchester city centre?
Not so off topic, I think. What sort of prices? Maybe because it now has tall buildings on both sides, and the building is showing its age compared to the new towers around it?
@@AidanEyewitness I've seen asking prices around £80K-£100K. Something at the back of my mind makes me think I might have heard something years ago about problems with noise from flats being used for airbnb.
I wished they saved primer house
I think the original plan was to keep the concrete framework of Premier House, but they decided to demolish it completely.
How many people move to Manchester each year?
Difficult to pin down - definitely many more people live in the city centre than 30 years ago and that trend is set to continue.
@@AidanEyewitness Also, I was wondering why is that impossible to fly directly from Manchester to Glasgow or Edinburgh. Looks like you always need to go by Belfast first. Weird.
@@nicolasnicolas3218 most domestic flights in the UK are between Scotland and the south of England and between Belfast and GB cities. One of the most ridiculous links in GB is London Manchester, but it is justifiable by numbers. On a similar distance, Glasgow Manchester just wouldn’t be justifiable and a direct link wouldn’t make sense, so the airlines are just selling MAN-BFS-GLA/EDI tickets on direct flights that already exist for people who just want a speedy crossing over the Irish sea.
So does this mean One Heritage is cancelled in favour of these boring rectangles 😴
No
@@rinkydinkmcruk last thing I read was that it’s lost its wrapped up in red tape the plot seems to be gone and a reneker tower in its place
Thanks for flagging that up. The plot is bounded by New Bridge Street, Greengate, the River Irwell, with the renamed Embankment Exchange on the west site. One Heritage Tower was originally approved in January 2020. I'll see what information I can find.
@@AidanEyewitness I’ve been looking for months I just hope they still build it it’s a stunning building would be the most beautiful skyscraper in the city if built
@@windingroadelven Thanks for flagging it up. I will keep an eye out for it.
Something that I wonder is how these buildings will look in 40 years. Will they age well? Will we look back and say "wow look at all those modern era buildings!"? I genuinely don't know. Right now I have mixed feelings about most modern developments. Some of them really have no unique distinction, others... they're nice. It really depends if they have unique characteristics / distinction to them.
Yes good point. But we already have modern buildings that have been around for 60+ years - the CIS tower and the neighbouring Century Hall. They both look great. I think glass weathers better than concrete. The Beetham has been there for 17+ years. It looks the same as when it was built.