The thing i loved most about tape was its dynamic range. I'm not sure if you touched on that. It was absolutely forgiving. Compared to our digital counterparts where peak means "Don't go any higher than 0db or your fucked".With Tape, once you pushed in to the red (above 0db) you got this natural tape compression which began to warm up the track. It had harmonic distortion qualities about it that are like no other. Digital plug ins try to reproduce it now..But they cant, they are getting close but they are still not there yet.
Great vid! I track using an aria 160x mixer going into an early 60's model akai 4 track with tube preamps running at 15ips. Then master to a 2 track Tascam 22-2 running at 30 ips. Really digging the sounds. So much fun recording to tape.
Would you add the mastering signal chain, ie limiter, maximiser, compression or whatever it needs, pre or post tape? I'm new to recording mixes to a Revox a77 👍
Now let's hear the playback when recorded at 1 7/8 IPS. I believe this ultra-slow speed was intended for voice-only recording and playback. I also know some people that used it for house parties with 10 inch reels on their auto-reverse decks. This means that music would play all night long without interruption (and without drunks bumping into turntables and bending the stylus!)
+YZFR VintageAudio Yes indeed! Thanks I really appreciate!
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Excellent video Thanks! May I ask you something? I have an Akai M9 for mastering at my home studio. Which is the best way for finish the track (mastered or don't, limited or don't, etc.) right before passing the track on the reel to reel machine?
Great video! I’ve been working more exclusively with tape recently and I’m scouring the internet researching the various ins and outs. I have a few cassette multitrack machines, as well as an Teac 80-8 1/2 inch multitrack recorder One thing I’m caught up on: When I’m mastering my multitracks down to 2 track tape, should I capture a digital backup through input monitoring or later from tape playback? I suppose it may differ depending on the project, I just know that tape can degrade the more times you play it back, so ideally, one would capture digital backups as early as possible
It's the audio signal through the tape machine without the tape recording. Transformers have a lot of color and affect the sound. Transformers are a big part of what makes Neve stuff sound so good.
Sorry for the confusion, the footage is the same for all speeds (as you can see the reels are all spinning at the same speed) however the audio examples are correct with the descriptions.
Really good video man, very informative! So how much does that 2 track tape reel machines cost? Are they still being build or is it just second hand market these days? I hope to get one in the near future! Thanks :)
Real magic happens when you mix down from a tape mutitrack onto a 1/4" or 1/2" track, mutitrack levels are usually better hotter(to keep the noise away) and the 2tk levels can be pretty conservative as there is less noise form a smaller track count.
That's a cool song with a Neil Young / Pink Floyd vibe. It's hard for me to hear the difference between the tape speeds, but both sound pretty awesome.
What settings do you use on your tape machine to master your tracks?
Let me know in the comments and thanks for watching!
Damn, you're like a textbook of analog production techniques.
how do you cut down on the noise?
The thing i loved most about tape was its dynamic range. I'm not sure if you touched on that. It was absolutely forgiving. Compared to our digital counterparts where peak means "Don't go any higher than 0db or your fucked".With Tape, once you pushed in to the red (above 0db) you got this natural tape compression which began to warm up the track. It had harmonic distortion qualities about it that are like no other. Digital plug ins try to reproduce it now..But they cant, they are getting close but they are still not there yet.
I have been looking everywhere for this information. Thank you so much man.
Glad it was helpful!
Again, this is gold
Appreciate the comments! Thanks!
Great vid!
I track using an aria 160x mixer going into an early 60's model akai 4 track with tube preamps running at 15ips.
Then master to a 2 track Tascam 22-2 running at 30 ips. Really digging the sounds. So much fun recording to tape.
Nice! That's quite a setup you have there!
This might be the first time in ten years that I’ve added a comment on TH-cam. Great video man! Visually beautiful and super informative 😃
great info in this video
Would you add the mastering signal chain, ie limiter, maximiser, compression or whatever it needs, pre or post tape? I'm new to recording mixes to a Revox a77 👍
Thanx a lot mate
Now let's hear the playback when recorded at 1 7/8 IPS. I believe this ultra-slow speed was intended for voice-only recording and playback. I also know some people that used it for house parties with 10 inch reels on their auto-reverse decks. This means that music would play all night long without interruption (and without drunks bumping into turntables and bending the stylus!)
Very informative! Thank you 🙂👍🏻
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching!
Amazing videos! Quality information
+Perry Storms Thank you, glad it helps!
I like the ReVox PR99, beautiful machine, also your music is very good.
+YZFR VintageAudio Yes indeed! Thanks I really appreciate!
Excellent video Thanks! May I ask you something? I have an Akai M9 for mastering at my home studio.
Which is the best way for finish the track (mastered or don't, limited or don't, etc.) right before passing the track on the reel to reel machine?
thank u for the amazing explanation ;)
I have a tascam 48ob reel to reel ,can you master with that its half in 8 track? Great song by the way, where can i hear it more?
15 ips winner
I agree!
Great video! I’ve been working more exclusively with tape recently and I’m scouring the internet researching the various ins and outs. I have a few cassette multitrack machines, as well as an Teac 80-8 1/2 inch multitrack recorder
One thing I’m caught up on: When I’m mastering my multitracks down to 2 track tape, should I capture a digital backup through input monitoring or later from tape playback? I suppose it may differ depending on the project, I just know that tape can degrade the more times you play it back, so ideally, one would capture digital backups as early as possible
Would be nice if you recsmind which one to buy
What "input trough transformers" means? Is it just digital original version, or you put audio signal though tape machine but without tape in it?
It's the audio signal through the tape machine without the tape recording. Transformers have a lot of color and affect the sound. Transformers are a big part of what makes Neve stuff sound so good.
What AD/DA converter was used for the test?
Q. Is the track recorded on to Tape ? then what happens ? is it then digitized from there?
The track was bounced onto tape and then converted back into Pro Tools.
I master with a cassette, but I anticipate the high frequency loss and basd bump with eq
Does it mean you have the wrong examples attached to the wrong videos. In the 15ips example, the machine is going slower than the 7.5ips example??
Sorry for the confusion, the footage is the same for all speeds (as you can see the reels are all spinning at the same speed) however the audio examples are correct with the descriptions.
i preferred 15ips... 👍🏼
Really good video man, very informative! So how much does that 2 track tape reel machines cost? Are they still being build or is it just second hand market these days? I hope to get one in the near future! Thanks :)
When making a comparison, don't switch when the song switches sections. Like comparing 7.5ips of the verse, to 15ips of the chorus. Shifty mate.
Real magic happens when you mix down from a tape mutitrack onto a 1/4" or 1/2" track, mutitrack levels are usually better hotter(to keep the noise away) and the 2tk levels can be pretty conservative as there is less noise form a smaller track count.
Thanks for sharing!
please make a standard alignment before use it
Alignment was performed prior to bouncing.
@@noahsarkmusicofficial but sadly obviously not
What you mean ?
So I can't master on a four track tape machine
I love how no video actually explains how to actually use the tape machines as outboard gear. This is frustrating.
That's a cool song with a Neil Young / Pink Floyd vibe. It's hard for me to hear the difference between the tape speeds, but both sound pretty awesome.
7,5 ips wins, IMO. More vintage texture, more bass, more natural.
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