Whether you are right or wrong, I like that you deep dive on unorthodox angles. It’ll sound crazy to everyone but nothing gets discovered if we don’t bother to wonder about the shit that sounds crazy or beyond belief. Most may be wrong but one day you’ll find gold.
I think it makes sense what you’re saying. And I’ll try ANYTHING to try to prevent this stupid RNG mess. And, IF ANYONE, I would trust you. You’re REALLY GOOD at shooting and know what you’re talking about. You could be wrong… but if you’re right, it’s game changing. Thanks for the post bruh. Love❤️
@@marauder3831I realized that takeover is also instantaneous when you have simple enabled opposed to all shots where the takeover meter goes up after the shot goes in, so def an interesting theory..
I NEVER LIKED THE SIMPLE FEEDBACK EITHER💯1 THING I LIKE ABOUT THE ALL SHOTS & NOT KNOWING WHETHER ITS INSTANTLY GREEN IS IT HELPS U RELALY FIND UR SHOT TIMING QUEUE💯EVEN WITH SIMPLE FEEDBACK OFF U CAN TELL WETHER U GREENED OR NOT BEFORE THE BALL GOES IN
The only two 2Ks that had pure window were 2K19 and 24, where we can green ridiculous smothered shots or half court fades. 2K23 and 22 are definition of rng shooting
Whether it’s less RNG or more RNG doesn’t even matter. Because it’s always going to be random. There’s nothing you can do about it. Shifting green windows, capped shooting percentages… This is absolutely ridiculous for a *skill-based video game* to have.
@@Revan-N7how many zen users have you played in the last 2 years? me who runs a lot of pro am can only say maybeeeee 2-3 within 2 years that’s literally 0.00005%
i can assure you that everything gets calculated as soon as you release the ball. Why would 2k "need" an extra 2 seconds to calculate wether your shot goes in or not. This doesn't make any sense from a coding perspective. Mike said it himself, every shot has different timing, but the visual cue always stays the same.
Interesting take.. I’ve been using simple feed back since day 1, tried the all shots feed back but just really liked knowing instantly if I made the shot or not.. I was shooting very badly.. was shooting like 38% from 3 now it’s a little over 47%… tryna get over 50% lol at first it was driving me crazy because I shot 65% from 3 last year, most def ain’t the same game tho 😂
I swear bro I had on simple I couldn’t hit SHITTT!!! So I said let me take of simple and put on all shots to see if I’m being guarded tightly or not once I put it on all shots I started greening WAYYY MORE I discovered this like 2 days after launch
You actually on to somethin with all these shot timings now vs the past 2Ks had me questioning the logic good thing i remember every aspect of each played 2K
The shot is make or miss as soon as it leaves your hand. The delay feedback is just so we keep playing. All the calculations are done when you release the shot button
as a guard or a big? cuz i feel like my jumpshot too fast to quick stop and then do rhythm shooting too... idk shooting to me been a 50/50 this yr... some games it goes well and some games it goes shit lmao
@@DutyDynamoI felt like my jumper was too fast so I gave it on 3/4 speed as a 6’ pg only using rythm shooting now I’ve shot 70% my last 5 rec games last night and this morning
Nice video as always marauder! By the way I used your jumpshot from your last video but with the release queue between push and release and it feels smooth i shoot 55 from three! ❤️❤️❤️
I feel like shooting is super easy this year once u understand it. I shoot 68% this year so far. And speaking on the feedback I definitely shoot better with all shots instead of instant
Hot take got balls to post an unproven theory on TH-cam especially on a game as controversial as 2K much respect Marauder been watching you for a hot minute you’re a dawg on the 2K Court G keep it up got any tips for comp PG’s on how to balance scoring and playmaking curious to hear your take on it coz I’m personally a read and react PG, PS I think you’re right tbh I’ve always played on all shots and I’m shooting high 50s in pro am and proving grounds compared to others shooting 40s or less from a corner on simple
Analysis on point but if u think of it a majority of 2k work off these physics & I don’t want to spread the sauce but that’s why when I understand contest system all feed…. goes off 😂
For me I been experimentation with the green release animations ever since I cut it off I been smacking with just the simple feedback feels cleaner and less delayed.
I mean, there was 2ks without delayed feedback and the ball would literally bounce mid air to go in. I feel like if there were issues with calculating ball trajectory this would occur.
I also don’t think make % is rng. Possibly the timing variables are random but if you go to the pro am arena you will get different shot timings that are slower or faster. Seems to be three timings slow normal fast. People on PC should be able to find something correlated with calculating shot speed.
That's crazy cause I have my setting on high risk and I made a game winner and the folks said it was white. But my simple setting said it was excellent. Didn't even get an excellent animation. Like I was on RPP
I think your theory is right I shot with both but I green way more consistently with all shots and i feel like with it on it’s feels like 24 and 23 just shooting with muscle memory
@marauder3831 I got a theory I think cause of the latency when you have the detailed feedback the feedback is incorrect and cap so if it says slightly early and you let go earlier it's cap I learned my jumper and no matter what it says I will release the same every way
Ive been using simple feedback because I was thinking i want less time in between knowing because the more time passes is more time to process and could decide actually u timed it wrong u missed Im shooting the highest percentage on my pro am team but am taking the fewest number of shots averaging about 11 a game but shooting 57% from 3 and 70% from the field
@@marauder3831 I want to believe you and what ur saying but i think it makes no difference tbh, your only proof is that the feedback timing was like that last year in comparison to immediately seeing ur green in the shot meter but i think it was just overall easier last year after that big shooting patch and things are much different in this game
i like switching between the two. just to know when i'm greening and what im doing wrong. simple gives me that peace of mind, while all shots lets me know i got it on lock.
This isn’t it bro. You’re saying it has 2 extra seconds to analyze. If you know anything about computers, all the game needs is .002 seconds to analyze, it does not need 2 extra seconds… HOWHEVER, you are actually on to something. It is human nature to learn and adjust better when you have instant feedback vs delayed feedback. This is not a placebo, and it can definitely play a role. But the additional 2 seconds 2k had to register everything… that’s just not it bro…
I understand the logic behind this but bro, do you understand how fast computers can calculate shit? 😂 I think its more likely if youre shooting better that its a mental thing, you may subconsciously feel rushed by the instant feedback.
@@marauder3831 / Steezo figured it out all you have to do is hold back on the stick then flick half a circle to the right don’t flick to the top only to the side if that makes sense. Try it out and thank me later Marauder 👍
Shooting 60% avg 20ppg almost 10 assist a game. 120 rec games. Just gotta q up this year guys 🤷🏻♂️ there’s a lot going on with dips and hitches when you shoot this year. So you gotta really look. And it’s all fast
First of all there are is no rng. So wrong. Secondly shooting is all form and not timing like 24 so if you understand physics. And understand how shooting in real life works you will crack the code of 25. Us actual hoopers been found out how to shoot consistently. Its like gate keeping but not really. until you video game eploiters realize its how you shoot in real life through out all these animations idk what yall gone do besides protest. 😂😂😂
You're trippin bro, it's just a placebo. You're pretty good at the game, you've changed settings while getting even better and suddenly you've developed this theory in your head. It wouldn't make any sense. You've just improved naturally and you think it's because you've changed your settings. I'm the opposite, I started the game with all shots feedback, and ever since I switched to instant feedback I've felt better.
This the worst 2k to me from multiple wide open missed shots and missed layups that be wide open I usually buy 2k every year but if it’s like this again they lost a customer it don’t reward iq this year it rewards bots who never played ball in they life 💀
I feel like you are unintentionally spreading misinformation in this video, especially with the title. There’s no RNG in shooting in 2K25; the simple fact is that there’s a pattern (a pattern cannot be random because it’s a pattern). You can green every shot you take. The “shots” that rattle mean you barely hit the edge of the green window when you timed your jump shot. In contrast, when you swished it, you timed it comfortably within the green window. As far as the shot feedback thing… there may possibly be something there but there are people shooting above 55% with simple so its most likely placebo 🤷🏽♂️
You keep saying "it makes common sense" like 2k doesn't determine where your green window is while the shot is generating... bruh we've had jumpshot meters forever, you've seen how meter green windows are generated. None of this makes sense lol, wtf?
THIS IS A THEORY…. Even though I’m 99% sure I’m onto something
@@marauder3831 the proof will be in the numbers in time
Whether you are right or wrong, I like that you deep dive on unorthodox angles. It’ll sound crazy to everyone but nothing gets discovered if we don’t bother to wonder about the shit that sounds crazy or beyond belief. Most may be wrong but one day you’ll find gold.
How do you get rather in a spot that “WHETHER” is supposed to be? Don’t even understand how that becomes a thing with some people
@@EnemyTec I changed it for you
@@Aqaue You’re a good man. Sorry for being grammar police but glad I could assist you friend.
I’ve always studied the ball trajectory in all 2ks.. I honestly believe you’re right about 2k25.
I feel like it just makes to much sense
went from shooting 78 in rec bc of you last year. now im only 56 its really killing the whole 2k thing for me atp
I think it makes sense what you’re saying. And I’ll try ANYTHING to try to prevent this stupid RNG mess. And, IF ANYONE, I would trust you. You’re REALLY GOOD at shooting and know what you’re talking about. You could be wrong… but if you’re right, it’s game changing. Thanks for the post bruh. Love❤️
Let me know how it goes. To me… it makes wayyyyy to much sense for it to not be true
I genuinely get so excited when marauder posts
Appreciate you big Mike 🫡
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@@marauder3831I’m still a little confused so are you saying that you play on simple?
2k24 green window was amazing 😍😍😍 idk why 2k wants us to suffer lmao
Cool stuff, but 2k19 had a pure green window for wide open and also for opens. One of the peak years in the 2k league history.
since 19 it’s had it untill now and idk how he thought otherwise
We need 2k lab or 2k tutes on this one 😂😂interesting theory though
Doesn’t it make sense tho 🤔
@@marauder3831I realized that takeover is also instantaneous when you have simple enabled opposed to all shots where the takeover meter goes up after the shot goes in, so def an interesting theory..
I NEVER LIKED THE SIMPLE FEEDBACK EITHER💯1 THING I LIKE ABOUT THE ALL SHOTS & NOT KNOWING WHETHER ITS INSTANTLY GREEN IS IT HELPS U RELALY FIND UR SHOT TIMING QUEUE💯EVEN WITH SIMPLE FEEDBACK OFF U CAN TELL WETHER U GREENED OR NOT BEFORE THE BALL GOES IN
I agree with that aswell, i just think mentally it helps as well
The only two 2Ks that had pure window were 2K19 and 24, where we can green ridiculous smothered shots or half court fades.
2K23 and 22 are definition of rng shooting
2k23 was easy asf
Whether it’s less RNG or more RNG doesn’t even matter. Because it’s always going to be random. There’s nothing you can do about it. Shifting green windows, capped shooting percentages… This is absolutely ridiculous for a *skill-based video game* to have.
Honestly i'd rather have RNG than cheaters with Zens.
@@Revan-N7All they have to do is give wide open shots a pure green window and make contested shots RNG.
@@Revan-N7how many zen users have you played in the last 2 years? me who runs a lot of pro am can only say maybeeeee 2-3 within 2 years that’s literally 0.00005%
@@Revan-N7You’re bad at the game and can’t shoot
@@Revan-N7nobody has zens like that bro
Like to hear your thoughts of visual cue, would greatly appreciate it!
i can assure you that everything gets calculated as soon as you release the ball. Why would 2k "need" an extra 2 seconds to calculate wether your shot goes in or not. This doesn't make any sense from a coding perspective. Mike said it himself, every shot has different timing, but the visual cue always stays the same.
Interesting take.. I’ve been using simple feed back since day 1, tried the all shots feed back but just really liked knowing instantly if I made the shot or not.. I was shooting very badly.. was shooting like 38% from 3 now it’s a little over 47%… tryna get over 50% lol at first it was driving me crazy because I shot 65% from 3 last year, most def ain’t the same game tho 😂
Shooting definitely is harder this year, just keep hooping dog. I do think that all shot feedback helps a little bit tho
@@marauder3831 yessir keep up that fire content for us brotha
“I’m a genius” said no genius ever 😂😂
I don’t know if you were were trolling during this video. But the shot feedback thing I actually considered 😂😂
I swear bro I had on simple I couldn’t hit SHITTT!!! So I said let me take of simple and put on all shots to see if I’m being guarded tightly or not once I put it on all shots I started greening WAYYY MORE I discovered this like 2 days after launch
I also feel a HUGE difference
You actually on to somethin with all these shot timings now vs the past 2Ks had me questioning the logic good thing i remember every aspect of each played 2K
The shot is make or miss as soon as it leaves your hand. The delay feedback is just so we keep playing. All the calculations are done when you release the shot button
I’ve been on that rhythm shooter heavy this year. Been working for me well honestly 🔥🔥
as a guard or a big? cuz i feel like my jumpshot too fast to quick stop and then do rhythm shooting too... idk shooting to me been a 50/50 this yr... some games it goes well and some games it goes shit lmao
I’ve been Incorporating it into my game slowly
Bro I’ve been thinking about this for when I play comp as backend
@@DutyDynamo a guard, I use it on set shots and moving shots, def takes practice but I don’t shoot with the button at all. All pro stick 🕹️
@@DutyDynamoI felt like my jumper was too fast so I gave it on 3/4 speed as a 6’ pg only using rythm shooting now I’ve shot 70% my last 5 rec games last night and this morning
Nice video as always marauder! By the way I used your jumpshot from your last video but with the release queue between push and release and it feels smooth i shoot 55 from three! ❤️❤️❤️
I feel like shooting is super easy this year once u understand it. I shoot 68% this year so far. And speaking on the feedback I definitely shoot better with all shots instead of instant
Hot take got balls to post an unproven theory on TH-cam especially on a game as controversial as 2K much respect Marauder been watching you for a hot minute you’re a dawg on the 2K Court G keep it up got any tips for comp PG’s on how to balance scoring and playmaking curious to hear your take on it coz I’m personally a read and react PG, PS I think you’re right tbh I’ve always played on all shots and I’m shooting high 50s in pro am and proving grounds compared to others shooting 40s or less from a corner on simple
Crazy thing is 2k24 had me doing green animations and missing too 😂
I think it’s because with simple you focused on the green next to your head & with all shots you’re more focused on the animation
NUMBER 2 BEST SHOOTER ON 2K
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You can really feel the difference when you shoot free throws, there's a reason they created simple feedback if not why have both? I think your right
Analysis on point but if u think of it a majority of 2k work off these physics & I don’t want to spread the sauce but that’s why when I understand contest system all feed…. goes off 😂
Problem with 2k is placebo news 🤦🏼♂️
Idk, I feel like I cooked
@marauder would you also try it with shot timing feedback completely off and if you have already did you feel a difference there?
I had came to this conclusion about 5 days ago so I completely agree
For me I been experimentation with the green release animations ever since I cut it off I been smacking with just the simple feedback feels cleaner and less delayed.
WE GOT OUR TIN FOIL HATS ON WITH THIS ONE 🗣💯🔥🔥🔥
i’m ngl i think they secretly buffed shooting… i shot over 70% from 3 all day yesterday and had one where i went 10/10
Def a theory but what if its actually a thing! You would now have an advantage to anyone who doesn't listen to theories!
I think this makes sense because it’s more of a reason to why 2k took out instant greens
I just switched back to delayed feedback right b4 I clicked on this vid bc I felt like I shot 10x worse with instant feedback
That’s how I felt
How do you switch to delayed feedback?
Pepe Silvia vibes
I mean, there was 2ks without delayed feedback and the ball would literally bounce mid air to go in. I feel like if there were issues with calculating ball trajectory this would occur.
I also don’t think make % is rng.
Possibly the timing variables are random but if you go to the pro am arena you will get different shot timings that are slower or faster. Seems to be three timings slow normal fast. People on PC should be able to find something correlated with calculating shot speed.
This is actually hella smart tho never thought it abt that way, switchin the shot feedback to let the game process the shot as a miss or not
Did I cook??
@@marauder3831 💯
@@marauder3831cooked 🧑🍳
i’ve been shooting good as a guard since the game came out haven’t used the simple shot feedback at all so 🤷♂️
you def cooked
That's crazy cause I have my setting on high risk and I made a game winner and the folks said it was white. But my simple setting said it was excellent. Didn't even get an excellent animation. Like I was on RPP
Yeah but the thing is that nba 2k24 had a pure green window but it still had rng (defense rng) and nba 2k23 isn’t 100% pure it’s like 80%
ngl i really miss all my shot with simple im not sure your right but all shots i can really focus on my player good theory though
It makes perfect sense. That’s crazy.
THATS WHAT IM SAYING 🤝
I think your theory is right I shot with both but I green way more consistently with all shots and i feel like with it on it’s feels like 24 and 23 just shooting with muscle memory
Idk bro I went back to simple and I'm shooting 60% since then
Interesting
@marauder3831 I got a theory I think cause of the latency when you have the detailed feedback the feedback is incorrect and cap so if it says slightly early and you let go earlier it's cap I learned my jumper and no matter what it says I will release the same every way
Ive been using simple feedback because I was thinking i want less time in between knowing because the more time passes is more time to process and could decide actually u timed it wrong u missed
Im shooting the highest percentage on my pro am team but am taking the fewest number of shots averaging about 11 a game but shooting 57% from 3 and 70% from the field
57% from 3 is insane!! Keep shooting 🎯
It could be placebo but i feel like i shoot worse when i switch to all shot feedback compared to simple
I feel like it makes more sense than all shot feedback reduces full whites. It makes way to much sense
@@marauder3831 I want to believe you and what ur saying but i think it makes no difference tbh, your only proof is that the feedback timing was like that last year in comparison to immediately seeing ur green in the shot meter but i think it was just overall easier last year after that big shooting patch and things are much different in this game
Makes sense I switched to simple and started missing ima go back to ight
So should we use all or simple?
Imo all
i like switching between the two. just to know when i'm greening and what im doing wrong. simple gives me that peace of mind, while all shots lets me know i got it on lock.
Took off the ooga booga costume and became smart 🤔
This isn’t it bro. You’re saying it has 2 extra seconds to analyze. If you know anything about computers, all the game needs is .002 seconds to analyze, it does not need 2 extra seconds…
HOWHEVER, you are actually on to something. It is human nature to learn and adjust better when you have instant feedback vs delayed feedback. This is not a placebo, and it can definitely play a role.
But the additional 2 seconds 2k had to register everything… that’s just not it bro…
Exactly what I'm saying. it's crazy to me that alot of people still don't understand computers and processing speeds.
You cooked🔥
I feel like I did
I’ve been using it this whole year since day 1
I feel like I shoot better with the instant greens not gonna lie Iol but your theory does have some validity to it
I feel like it literally makes so much sense
I get what your saying. I thought I was trippin last night, but the hommie shot and the ball curved to the hoop.
I see lots of people saying simple works better for them and lots of people saying all feedback is better. I think because of that it’s placebo.
U might be a genius muddy
Christopher Columbus 😂 😂
😂😂😂
I’m related
I understand the logic behind this but bro, do you understand how fast computers can calculate shit? 😂
I think its more likely if youre shooting better that its a mental thing, you may subconsciously feel rushed by the instant feedback.
Maybe, who knows though. Personally, I’ve been shooting way better
bros lowkey on to something 😭😭
Hey Marauder can you do a video on rhythm shooting ??
Still trying to add that into my arsenal
@@marauder3831 / Steezo figured it out all you have to do is hold back on the stick then flick half a circle to the right don’t flick to the top only to the side if that makes sense. Try it out and thank me later Marauder 👍
Badass clip at the end
Thanks Mr. Alaska
Huge W
Did I cook?
Cooked
I’m shooting 75 percent with 78 3 point as a pf in rec
I feel shooting is easy for me and my friends
U on PS5? I need a SS
@@marauder3831 yes I am on ps5
@@marauder3831I’m backend this year
Im shooting a little above 70% with a 78 in park and rec. what’s your jumper
Shooting 60% avg 20ppg almost 10 assist a game. 120 rec games. Just gotta q up this year guys 🤷🏻♂️ there’s a lot going on with dips and hitches when you shoot this year. So you gotta really look. And it’s all fast
Idk man I think it’s over my head.
You’re probably right
@@marauder3831I think shot quality is more important than ever unlike 24
wsg brudda hows skl so far?
Not too shabby, still a grind tho
@@marauder3831 real
schools pissin me off
tbh i’m thinkin bout dropping out
Bro has lost his mind. Barely took the time to hide his tin foil hat 😅
First of all there are is no rng. So wrong. Secondly shooting is all form and not timing like 24 so if you understand physics. And understand how shooting in real life works you will crack the code of 25. Us actual hoopers been found out how to shoot consistently. Its like gate keeping but not really. until you video game eploiters realize its how you shoot in real life through out all these animations idk what yall gone do besides protest. 😂😂😂
I think you’re onto something👀 I shoot better with all shots feedback. it might be placebo but damn you sell the point 😂
what do u look at when u shoot
The ball
@@marauder3831 oh ok when do yk to release it
@@marauder3831 when the ball hits the finger tips?
Why does he yell every video? I can’t listen to this shit.
Just give us a pure green 2k 🙏
You're trippin bro, it's just a placebo. You're pretty good at the game, you've changed settings while getting even better and suddenly you've developed this theory in your head. It wouldn't make any sense. You've just improved naturally and you think it's because you've changed your settings. I'm the opposite, I started the game with all shots feedback, and ever since I switched to instant feedback I've felt better.
🤣🤣🤣 my player doesn’t even think it’s going in 🤣🤣🤣NAH FR THOUGH that did not look like it was going in it looked like it’s curved in
Right!!!
U MIGHT BE EINSTEINS GREAT GREAT GRANDKID
Did I cook?
@@marauder3831 YES
👀🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🐐
What up F- boy
@@marauder3831 F BOOOYYEEEE🤣🤣🤣🤣
This the worst 2k to me from multiple wide open missed shots and missed layups that be wide open I usually buy 2k every year but if it’s like this again they lost a customer it don’t reward iq this year it rewards bots who never played ball in they life 💀
Bro might be on to something
So what you was bro I should keep my feedback on all shots ???
I feel like you are unintentionally spreading misinformation in this video, especially with the title. There’s no RNG in shooting in 2K25; the simple fact is that there’s a pattern (a pattern cannot be random because it’s a pattern). You can green every shot you take. The “shots” that rattle mean you barely hit the edge of the green window when you timed your jump shot. In contrast, when you swished it, you timed it comfortably within the green window.
As far as the shot feedback thing… there may possibly be something there but there are people shooting above 55% with simple so its most likely placebo 🤷🏽♂️
You keep saying "it makes common sense" like 2k doesn't determine where your green window is while the shot is generating... bruh we've had jumpshot meters forever, you've seen how meter green windows are generated. None of this makes sense lol, wtf?
anybody ever tried no shot feedback at all ?
you spittin but whats the jumpshot
Cam Thomas base, 85 o rob, 15 garland
But my thing is who even use simple 😭💀
We’ve been using that setting
Agreed
Makes to much sense
Bro if this takes rng away a bit I’ll kiss you
I’m 99% sure it will
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Appreciate you nate
hey marauder
Hey Nova 🤭
Can we be opps 🥺🥺
What
so true
Placebo for sure
I thought simple feedback was good but that shii be trash
Placebo
You definitely could be right
Idk man I started to shoot better on simple
This is lame... you are trying too hard. From now on, you will need to have to pay me to watch your videos.
😂😂😂 this take was so bad, i actually unsubscribed
Someone doesn’t know ball 🫣
And I said a million times it was a theory, it’s not like I was specifically saying it was true or not… even though I think it is
U dont know how to play 2k if u don’t understand what he’s saying lil bro
lmaooo like he gaf u unsubscribing 😹
u a rando bih no one knows u
@marauder3831 don’t waste your time with him🤦🏾♂️