USS Tang - Guide 170 (Extended)

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  • @Drachinifel
    @Drachinifel  4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Pinned post for Q&A :)

    • @tommasobalconi
      @tommasobalconi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Good morning Drach, I have a kind of borderline question for you. I guess you're familiar with the Advanced Large Artillery Ship concept, or at least have an idea about what it is (basically a modern battleship); I've been wondering how feasible this concept would actually be. I know you tend to steer clear of modern warships and politics (and rightfully so), but do you think the concept would work in the modern war environment?To me the concept of the modern battleship is more about survivability in a war zone, as opposed to dish out punishment on enemy vessels, as modern weapons can reach tens of times further than a gun could, that's why it 'only' has three triple 12in turrets. Such a ship, in my opinion, would have modern electronics and radars, as well as ASW weapons such as the 3K95 Kinzhal (SA-N-9) and RBU-1000 mortars, since torpedoes pose the most significant threat, and no amount of anti-torpedo protection would effectively protect a vessel. Do you think a ship could be reasonably protected (with armour) against such weapons, missiles and shells on one hand, and torpedoes on the other?
      One more question on a side note: do you know of the series of 'incidents' that befell USN and Soviet submarines in the 1970s, when they got chewed up by Cookie-Cutter sharks? Apparently said fish considers neoprene rubber to be a fine delicacy. If you haven't, I suggest you to check out Trey the Explainer's video on the incident, it is quite amusing and informative.

    • @jakebedsaul6857
      @jakebedsaul6857 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I recently rewatched your video on the second pacific squadron. In it you mentioned that Rozhestvensky had wanted the tsar to acquire more modern cruisers from Chile/Argentina. How might the outcome of Tsushima changed if these were sent either in place of or in addition to the Third Pacific squadron?

    • @bradyelich2745
      @bradyelich2745 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi, do the Canadian WW2 warships. Won't take too much time except for HMCS Haida. Unless, you transgress to the merchant marine.

    • @nielsgeens3677
      @nielsgeens3677 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If the washington naval conference failed and resulted in an armsrace between the anglo-Japanede and the USA, who would have won if war broke out in 1936 ?

    • @bradyelich2745
      @bradyelich2745 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Do a show on Sir William Stephenson. He crossed the Atlantic 43 times in WW2.

  • @ayylmao9697
    @ayylmao9697 4 ปีที่แล้ว +347

    The US Navy's torpedo department in WW2 is one of the greatest unsolved mysteries known to mankind

    • @nebufabu
      @nebufabu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      Well, Drach _did_ try to explain it... th-cam.com/video/eQ5Ru7Zu_1I/w-d-xo.html Although the theory that it was possessed by the ghost of the Kamchatka is alsio attractive...

    • @jwenting
      @jwenting 4 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      it's a prime lesson in the dangers of bureaucratic overreach, sadly lost on current government organisations and large corporate departments (Boeing, cough, cough) worldwide.

    • @ShadrachVS1
      @ShadrachVS1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Never attribute to evil intent, that which can be explained by bureaucratic stupidity.

    • @brotlowskyrgseg1018
      @brotlowskyrgseg1018 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@nebufabu It's definetly not unreasonable to suspect that, upon further investigating the cause for the egregious mismanagement at the Bureau of Ordnance, the trail of incompetence will lead back all the way to the Tsushima Strait, possibly in the form of binoculars scattered across the ocean floor.

    • @calvingreene90
      @calvingreene90 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      It is just a demonstration of why militaries must be diligent in removing stupid energetic officers from their ranks.

  • @ayylmao9697
    @ayylmao9697 4 ปีที่แล้ว +479

    Celebrated independence day by liberating 2 further ships from the shackles of positive buoyancy
    -Drachinifel 2020

    • @thomas316
      @thomas316 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Converting surface ships to submarines.

    • @ranekeisenkralle8265
      @ranekeisenkralle8265 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@thomas316 No. Made into permanent deep-sea observatories. Submarines can (usually) get back to the surface - which isn't the case for those ships.

    • @philippeterson7503
      @philippeterson7503 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Loved that

    • @Knuck_Knucks
      @Knuck_Knucks 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I know. Hilarious! Where does Drach come up this stuff. Comedic gold! I Vote funniest Ep ever!

    • @murraystewartj
      @murraystewartj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      And this is why Drach rules! It's almost like if World at War and Monty Python had a love child.

  • @lycossurfer8851
    @lycossurfer8851 4 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    @2:17 overkill is underrated.
    Considering what the US crews went through before with Mk 14's I guess they still didn't fully trust them

    • @silentotto5099
      @silentotto5099 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Actually, O'Kane had enjoyed mostly good luck with Mk 14's during his time as first officer on USS Wahoo. They completed a number of successful patrols and had suffered few dud torpedoes. It seems that his skipper, Cdr. "Mush" Morton, had a habit of firing his torpedoes once the Japanese ships were a bit past 90 degrees angle-on-bow, causing them to strike the target at an angle. Coincidentally, that just happened to be the angle at which the Mk 14 was least likely to fail. So, he personally probably wasn't as jaundiced about the Mk 14 as some other skippers were.
      The successful patrols of USS Wahoo and a few other submarines was one of the things which hindered the navy in identifying that the Mk 14 had a problem for so long. Some skippers would return from patrol reporting dud torpedoes, while guys like Morton came back reporting that they seem to be working fine and handing in the sinking claims to prove it. This led the navy to conclude that the torpedo failures were most likely due to either bad aim or poor torpedo maintenance during the patrol. Eventually, and after O'Kane had moved on to his own command, even Morton started having trouble with the Mk 14's. That combined with the continuing reports of failure from other skippers is what finally prompted the navy to start testing more rigorously and discovering the Mk 14's flaws. By the time O'Kane sailed in command of USS Tang, the problems the Mk 14 had were resolved, at least to the extent that they ever were.
      Of course, I'm sure he took his hatred of the Mk 18 torpedo to his grave.

    • @fernandomarques5166
      @fernandomarques5166 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@silentotto5099 Thats called a constant bearing attack, periscoped at 10° off the bow bearing, must know targets speed. You shoot when the target crosses the scope. No matter the range of the shot is almost a garanteed hit.

  • @mattblom3990
    @mattblom3990 4 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    "New area with a higher difficulty setting" - lol.

  • @scoutdogfsr
    @scoutdogfsr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Submariners are an amazing breed. And people questioned my sanity for "jumping out of a perfectly good airplane" I salute these brave men.

  • @AdamosDad
    @AdamosDad 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The men of USS Tang, hero's all. "Fair Winds and Following Seas" to the survivors and to those still on patrol.

  • @EradWir
    @EradWir 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Quadrakill Drach your great

    • @yaldabaoth2
      @yaldabaoth2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That sudden voice scared the shit out of me.

    • @bificommander7472
      @bificommander7472 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And Mrs. Drach too.

  • @mogaman28hm9
    @mogaman28hm9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love how he accepted that japanese sailor beating like a champ.

  • @reggierico
    @reggierico 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Imagine the stress and chaos that ensued after the errant torpedo came back around and sunk their boat, in a matter of seconds. The initial attitude of the boat was at approximately 60 degrees bow up, with the bow actually clearing the surface. Now, consider this; the remaining crew onboard knew the water depth and had the presence of mind to actually trim the boat by flooding ballast tanks forward to bring the boat to level attitude, resting on the ocean floor. They then deployed the buoy/rope to the surface and organized the possible egress through the escape trunk. BTW All modern subs still use this basic design for the escape trunk. Next, they actually were able to get over a dozen crewmen out of the forward torpedo room via the escape trunk, in small groups, until the remaining crew was probably overcome by noxious fumes from the battery fire. The cool headed bravery, dedication and professionalism of these sub crews is astounding and awe inspiring. Adm. Dick O'Kane's book, 'Clear the Bridge!' is his account of his WW2 service and chronicles his cruises on the 'Wahoo' and 'Tang'. It is must reading for anyone interested in military history.

  • @phillipdarley5206
    @phillipdarley5206 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "Celebrated Independence Day by liberating two further ships from the shackles of positive buoyancy"
    Thank you so much for such wonderfully-memorable lines :)

  • @samuel5916
    @samuel5916 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    She was such a badass that literally the only ship that could sink her... was herself.
    What a fascinating story, I wouldn’t mind getting an extended version with more detail on her exploits. *hint hint* 😉

  • @WALTERBROADDUS
    @WALTERBROADDUS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Find 'em, Chase 'em, Sink'em......😐 Mad respect to the USS Tang and 51 sisters still on Eternal Patrol.

  • @lukum55
    @lukum55 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Still eagerly waiting for the Type VII U-boat. U-96 maybe? U-47? U-552? The Type IX would also be awesome, U-505 maybe?

  • @cxb262
    @cxb262 ปีที่แล้ว

    My pick for, "best U.S. Boat of the war," by a narrow margin--granted, she didn't sink a train like the Barb did, but her record in such a limited time is unbelievable.

  • @JonWMeyer
    @JonWMeyer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would love to see you do an episode on the USS Wahoo if you haven't. Great work, as always.

  • @Martian_Productions
    @Martian_Productions 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I live a few minutes away from the old Mare Island dockyard. Some of the old dry-docks are still up but it's mostly abandoned factories and old bunker complexes. My great grandfather and my grandfather used to work on submarines over there decades ago.

  • @karlbrundage7472
    @karlbrundage7472 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As Chief of the Watch, operating the Ballast Control Panel I had the privilege of "relieving (my boat) from the shackles of positive buoyancy" several times per watch................................

  • @fakharhaider6269
    @fakharhaider6269 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Richard O'Kane's book "Clear the Bridge!!" is a fantastic read,, compared to the german submariners, the U.S guys had it very good, atleast when food and water is concerned.. the crew of the Tang even had an ice cream machine that was supposed to go a battleship!, again, highly recommend to read that book..

    • @webbtrekker534
      @webbtrekker534 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are very few benefits you can give submarine crews to do the jobs they have to do. Food was one of the things they could have. Ice cream machines were common and still are to this day. What else could you give men who volunteers to get sealed in a sewer-pipe and then sunk in the ocean months at a time? The best food possible! More pay!

  • @animal16365
    @animal16365 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Drach.
    You need to have a tee shirt made with the caption
    Submarines
    Freeing surface ships from the shackles of positive Buoyancy

  • @turbowolf302
    @turbowolf302 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    ....shouldn't that be 34 ships she sunk? Seeing as she kinda DID torpedo.....herself.

    • @ranekeisenkralle8265
      @ranekeisenkralle8265 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      True, but I think friendly fire incidents are not counted - for morale reasons I suppose.

    • @turbowolf302
      @turbowolf302 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ranekeisenkralle8265 I dunno. Friendly fire, at least to my uneducated ass, insinuates you shot someone else.
      ...now you got me wondering if shooting yourself in the foot constitutes Friendly Fire.

    • @Shenaldrac
      @Shenaldrac 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do submarines count as ships?

    • @ShadrachVS1
      @ShadrachVS1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Shenaldrac yes, they have Captains. If they were boats they would be driven by enlisted men.

    • @kellybreen5526
      @kellybreen5526 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Shenaldrac No. They are boats. Ships carry boats on them and subs only carry rafts. It is a technical and disputed point of definition.

  • @whiskeytangosierra6
    @whiskeytangosierra6 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent presentation. Liberated from the clutches of flotation...

  • @workingguy6666
    @workingguy6666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:05 - simply the best US Navy uniform ever. I'm still confused to why they went away from it and haven't revisited tan.

  • @LmgWarThunder
    @LmgWarThunder 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love these submarine videos! It's about time you fleshed out that playlist

  • @rpbajb
    @rpbajb 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    "...the Tang and her crew had less than two years of World War II left to run, so they'd have to get 'stuck in' if they wanted to make an impression." 0:59 Now, now Drac, this is a family show.

  • @JefRoberts
    @JefRoberts 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How about a piece on Dutch submariners?

  • @Kim-the-Dane-1952
    @Kim-the-Dane-1952 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very cool. I cannot imagine the horror of being on a submarine at war. Even if it is the most successful one of the bunch

  • @webbtrekker534
    @webbtrekker534 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A young member of Tang's crew was a black cook named Rubin MacNiel Raiford. Raiford had joined the navy at age 13 and had served on two other submarines before transferring to Tang. His age had been discovered and he was due to sail back to the USA but somehow he ended back on Tang. When Tang sank he died with his shipmates at the old age of 15! He is probably the youngest US Submariner to die in WW II.
    pigboats.com/features2.html Scroll 2/3 of the way down the page.

  • @brentgranger7856
    @brentgranger7856 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have done USS Tang, so you are required to do USS Barb, a Gato class submarine, which sank a train, very soon! Information about that can be found in Captain Eugene B. "Lucky" Fluckey's memoir "Thunder Below!"

  • @Tank50us
    @Tank50us 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So... what you're saying Drac, is that Tang was doing so well, that the devs nerfed her with the new torpedo

  • @tryithere
    @tryithere 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredible.

  • @BlindMansRevenge2002
    @BlindMansRevenge2002 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My goodness, that loan submarine almost took out the entire Japanese merchant marine by itself

  • @wyominghorseman9172
    @wyominghorseman9172 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    US Navy Submarine Service
    And remarkably even with the inexcusable failure of the ordinance department in regard to the Mark 14 and the 2 years it took to correct it, the the US Navy Submarine Service managed to reduce the IJN and the Japanese merchant fleet to near extinction.
    So in less than 3 years we sank 5.3 million tons of shipping.
    With a loss of 52 boats and 3,305 men.
    Our Navy does not consider them lost, " They are on Eternal Patrol."

    • @JohnnyWishbone85
      @JohnnyWishbone85 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wyoming Horseman -- The boats are "Overdue and presumed lost," and the men are Still On Patrol.

  • @gusbailey68
    @gusbailey68 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done.

  • @bretfranklin2558
    @bretfranklin2558 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    And while being "rescued" by the Japanese a Japanese sailor cut the line of the small buoy attached to the Tang thereby helping to hide the location of the sunken boat, as told in "The bravest man".

  • @mostlyharmless7425
    @mostlyharmless7425 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would like to see our host provide a history of the HMS Safari.

  • @brentbean7903
    @brentbean7903 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great book written by OKaine called clear the deck.

  • @kefkaZZZ
    @kefkaZZZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s like playing Valeting Battle Stations: Pacific in Easy Mode.

  • @occhamite
    @occhamite 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't think of a particular ship to review at the moment, but what about a more general video "what life was really like aboard a WWI/WWII submarine"?
    As starting point for background material, for a Royal Navy view, "One of our Submarines" by Edward Young, American "Pigboats" by Edward Ellsberg.

  • @thisislesbomaya
    @thisislesbomaya 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    OMG the quadrakill addition

  • @123Dunebuggy
    @123Dunebuggy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If i didnt love ships, i would view your videos just for the humor.

  • @MrMasterCGO
    @MrMasterCGO 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    decisive tang victory

  • @cpt.batteryacid8682
    @cpt.batteryacid8682 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Do you still want the biscuits drach?
    As I left them on the Hood and we both know how that went

  • @hoppish088
    @hoppish088 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah 1944, and Bu Ord has finally got the bugs out of the Mk 14 torpedo.

  • @johnball4983
    @johnball4983 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd be very interested to see a video based on the K Class destroyers. I.e. HMS Kelly, commanded by Mountbatten and especially HMS Kipling which my father was serving aboard during the battle of Crete when the Kelly was sunk by Luftwaffe bombers and Kipling picked up the survivors ( including Mountbatten) of HMS Kelly and Kashmir(?)

  • @robertfousch2703
    @robertfousch2703 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The USS Tang Experience at the National WW2 Museum in New Orleans is highly recommended.

  • @freddieellis8449
    @freddieellis8449 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tang’s capitain was DEFINITELY a Chad Unicum.

  • @fdsaasdf4633
    @fdsaasdf4633 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Origin of the Dick O'Kane method. If you played Silent Hunter 4 you'll know what I mean. Made hitting things in 100% realism a lot easier!

  • @martinmdl6879
    @martinmdl6879 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great.

  • @dukerrr
    @dukerrr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did not expect the league of legends quadra kill soundbyte

  • @johnrose3405
    @johnrose3405 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hopefully you’ll be able to still make it to the states with all the stuff happening worldwide...

  • @grondhero
    @grondhero 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    _Tang_ a lucky ship,
    Misses intended target,
    Still hits enemy

    • @Waty8413
      @Waty8413 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lucky until one of those magic torpedoes decided to hit it's own sub.

    • @grondhero
      @grondhero 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Waty8413 _tsk, tsk_ You could have at least responded in haiku or rhyme. :P

  • @leighrate
    @leighrate 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's a name & hull number that should be in continuous commission.

    • @BatteryH1862
      @BatteryH1862 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dick O'Kane's cribbage board is always kept on the USN's oldest active duty submarine. When it is decommissioned, the board is transferred with ceremony to the nmnext oldest sub.

    • @BatteryH1862
      @BatteryH1862 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      In addition, USS Tang is still listed as "on patrol."

    • @DavidConnor
      @DavidConnor 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Second Tang SS-563. Yes some names should continue.

  • @swampyankee
    @swampyankee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wasn't the Tang the first sub to conduct a rocket attack? Also Drach I served aboard a US Coast Guard 255' cutter (CGC Androscoggin)... though none of the class saw action in WWII some did see action in Nam. At only 255' as built they carried 4 5"guns in twin turrets and rumored to be the most heavily armed vessel by tonnage. Aside from that they had an innovative propulsion plant.

    • @terencetan236
      @terencetan236 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gregg Champlin think first rocket Attack was by the Barb. Another legendary boat.

    • @swampyankee
      @swampyankee 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@terencetan236 Thanks

    • @swampyankee
      @swampyankee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@terencetan236 Should've looked it up... you are correct... USS Barb, Capt Fluckey commanding. Have his book "Thunder Below"... they also blew up a train.

    • @terencetan236
      @terencetan236 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gregg Champlin Fluckey aka The Galloping Ghost of the China Coast. There are some videos here on TH-cam about the Barb.

  • @matthewrobinson4323
    @matthewrobinson4323 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video of an awesome sub.

  • @jeffpittel6926
    @jeffpittel6926 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I heard it's support ship was named Poon.

  • @lexmaximaguy8788
    @lexmaximaguy8788 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    uss tang...spreading freedom.

  • @Moredread25
    @Moredread25 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it appropriate that i'm here one minute after upload because that's how long Tang takes to make?

  • @casparcoaster1936
    @casparcoaster1936 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    gosh (goddamn) that was good, many thanks

  • @joeperson4792
    @joeperson4792 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    There's an audiobook that mentions the Tang on u-tube: The enemy below. Check it out for some interesting stories on US boats.

  • @Philistine47
    @Philistine47 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    One dislike from an ex-IJN subchaser crewman still salty about being less efficient killers of USN submarines - and submariners - than the USN Bureau of Ordnance.

  • @donaldrex0495
    @donaldrex0495 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    She was just too accurate with them torpedoes man tragic

  • @sniperboom1202
    @sniperboom1202 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    *uses 4 torpedoes*
    "Sir do you think we used to much?"
    "No"

  • @John-ru5ud
    @John-ru5ud 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did the US torpedo establishment receive an award from the IJN?

  • @scottmacdonald1877
    @scottmacdonald1877 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Balau Class, Gato Class....US submarines accounted for 80% of tonnage sank in the Pacific in WWII. Including warships... A one in three/four ratio for survivability.....

  • @christianoliver6980
    @christianoliver6980 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wahoo sounds hilarious, but it is actually a large fast fish in the mackerel family

  • @ironstarofmordian7098
    @ironstarofmordian7098 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:24 The Ghost Submarine

  • @ditto1958
    @ditto1958 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Royal Navy subs? Don’t know anything about the subject. Can you do something on them?

  • @simonwood721
    @simonwood721 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Were us ordinance responsible for the torps ever called to account for their incompetence?

  • @MM22966
    @MM22966 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    In other news, the entire Mk18 design team suffered a series of mysterious & gruesomely accidental deaths postwar while Cmdr O'Kane and the Tang's survivors were on leave...(If there was any justice in the world)

  • @johnnash5118
    @johnnash5118 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    We were fortunate the axis powers didn’t have Britain’s hedgehog anti-sub depth charges.

  • @yapvoonyee1778
    @yapvoonyee1778 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I mean does sinking yourself count as a ship sunk? I think that it should.

  • @dennyjay4252
    @dennyjay4252 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is pronounced Trook spelled Truk

  • @the_uglysteve6933
    @the_uglysteve6933 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Now the weekend has started!

  • @biscuitninja
    @biscuitninja 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    USS Tang heard about The Samuel B Roberts ...

  • @larrytischler570
    @larrytischler570 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sinking all those tankers and cargo ships were the reason Japan was doing so poorly in the later stages of the war. They did not have enough fuel to train new pilots for anything but kamikaze flights which was rudimentary training. And their larger ships did not go out much because of lack of fuel.

    • @misterjag
      @misterjag 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And Curtis LeMay's Operation Starvation helped.

    • @larrytischler570
      @larrytischler570 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@misterjag what was LeMay supposed to do? Drop them rice cakes on alternate missions? If you talked to as many who were involved with Japan raping and pillaging their Far East and Pacific lands as I have, LeMay would be called a white knight by you.

  • @techmoso4880
    @techmoso4880 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Trust no one not even yourself

  • @mpetersen6
    @mpetersen6 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The shackles of positive bouancy. A suppose they were yearning to breathe fre.........cluub, club, cluub.

  • @trevortrevortsr2
    @trevortrevortsr2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    A ships value is in how successful it is - this one must rate up there with the Warspite - I am often amused by folk who praise things like the Yamamoto which in reality swallowed up resources and fuel at a time when Japan could ill afforded it - if I never knew better I'd say the Yamamoto was a devilish Anglo-American plot : )

    • @Axterix13
      @Axterix13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're mixing up the Admiral and the ship/class ;)
      But yeah, the Yamatos were a bit of a double edged sword. In theory, a good way to get ahead of the opposition without them realizing it (as the allies didn't know just how big it was until after the war). But in practice, a bit of a waste by the changing nature of warfare, coupled with being too big risk, so they never really saw action when they could have made a difference. Imagine if they'd been used at Guadalcanal...

  • @scotiadrake4245
    @scotiadrake4245 4 ปีที่แล้ว +368

    Liberating two more ships from the shackles of positive buoyancy?
    Honestly Drach, quite droll. Bravo

    • @LiftOffLife
      @LiftOffLife 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      🤣😂😂😂😂😂

    • @1977Yakko
      @1977Yakko 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That gave me a hearty guffaw!

    • @yes_head
      @yes_head 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Drach and droll, that's how he rolls...

    • @buckfaststradler4629
      @buckfaststradler4629 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Almost as droll as drowning in burning fuel oil

    • @rooksfoot1184
      @rooksfoot1184 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Sudden existance failure...is still my favourite...but thats a close second

  • @ahmetserdarunal8229
    @ahmetserdarunal8229 4 ปีที่แล้ว +607

    She was so successful that she even wanted the privilege of sunking the USN's most successful submarine.

    • @francistaylor1822
      @francistaylor1822 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      wonder if they counter her own tonnage in the total

    • @DisSabot
      @DisSabot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      I feel bad for laughing...

    • @dubspool
      @dubspool 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Yeah but did the Tang sink a train?

    • @BatteryH1862
      @BatteryH1862 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@dubspool alas, there were no trains in her patrol areas. She did shell a Japanese position though.

    • @Deevo037
      @Deevo037 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@dubspool You've been watching Operation Petticoat. We sunk a truck! th-cam.com/video/GpEcU0OEzhc/w-d-xo.html

  • @Front-Toward-Enemy
    @Front-Toward-Enemy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    Uss Tang: You get a torpedo, you get a torpedo and you get a torpedo.
    Crew: Haha Lol
    Uss Tang: And we get a torpedo
    Crew: Haha..... Wait.

  • @lezardvaleth2304
    @lezardvaleth2304 4 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    6:43 "firing torpedoes in all directions'
    I'm sorry, am I the only who imagined a sub spinning wildly on all its axes a la The Last Starfighter's Death Blossom?

    • @Islander0711
      @Islander0711 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      too funny.....made me have a coughing fit.

    • @davidmcmanamy1386
      @davidmcmanamy1386 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was thinking the same thing my friend! lol

    • @laytonlacorte8107
      @laytonlacorte8107 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was more thinking like Willem Dafoe in Boondock Saints... "THERE WAS A FIREFIIIIIIIGGGGHHHTT!!!!"

    • @belliott538
      @belliott538 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Death Blossom - A rather Fittingly Japanese-esk Name...

    • @samuelmatheson9655
      @samuelmatheson9655 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      no, u wernt

  • @Kevin_Kennelly
    @Kevin_Kennelly 4 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    "A remarkable display of accuracy. And a minor display of overkill."
    "liberating two further ships from the shackles of positive buoyancy."
    "produced with the usual helpful sabotage of the US torpedo building establishment."

  • @YouTubeIsCriminal
    @YouTubeIsCriminal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    "Up-Up-Down-Down-Left-Right-Left-Right B, A, Start."
    -*Captain of the Tang*

  • @Big_E_Soul_Fragment
    @Big_E_Soul_Fragment 4 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    Does USS Tang run exclusively on powdered orange juice?

    • @ShadrachVS1
      @ShadrachVS1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or... did the person who invented that beverage descend from one who served upon her?

    • @ironstarofmordian7098
      @ironstarofmordian7098 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      By the Emperor! 🤦‍♂️👍

    • @vaclav_fejt
      @vaclav_fejt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Oh man! Tang has disappeared from my local shops about 5 years ago and I miss it.

    • @BatteryH1862
      @BatteryH1862 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@vaclav_fejt I know. It made for a great dishwasher cleaner.

    • @vaclav_fejt
      @vaclav_fejt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@BatteryH1862 I used to snort that stuff as a kid. My nose wanted that vitamin C too.
      Mango was the best one.

  • @Alex-cw3rz
    @Alex-cw3rz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    Could you do a video on the submarine HMS Venturer, being the only submarine to have sunk another while both were submerged, would be a great video to here, could even be a special.

    • @Eanki_
      @Eanki_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      The Tang did sunk a submerged submarine you know.

    • @Alex-cw3rz
      @Alex-cw3rz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Eanki_ no it didn't

    • @Eanki_
      @Eanki_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@Alex-cw3rz Tang wasn't submerged when her torpedo came back around to hit her?

    • @Alex-cw3rz
      @Alex-cw3rz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Eanki_ aha, Good point she did sink herself

    • @garydterhune8392
      @garydterhune8392 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There was a US Navy submarine sink 3 Japanese submarines in 72 hours. Do not recall the name though

  • @nebufabu
    @nebufabu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    Random thought/request: Early steam turbines and Charles Parsons. I mean it's a real-life sci-fi story that unfortunately isn't widely known, and would be perfect for Drachinifel treatment...

    • @whatsoperadoc7050
      @whatsoperadoc7050 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you join Drach's Patreon you can nominate this to be voted on by other patrons.

    • @lostinpa-dadenduro7555
      @lostinpa-dadenduro7555 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That sounds very interesting. 👍

    • @czarfore
      @czarfore 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Didn't Parsons disrupt a RN review with an experimental boat called the Turbinia?

    • @nebufabu
      @nebufabu 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@czarfore Yes. That's the best-known part. But then there's also the whole sinking of the HMS Cobra affair (My favourite factoid about it is that after that RN never named ships after snakes, just to be sure) and before either of those, the matter of him spending years not actually having rights to build his own turbines and trying all kinds of workarounds (he finally managed to buy the patent back) and of course, all the engineering that went into making the turbines actually work on a ship.

  • @issacfoster1113
    @issacfoster1113 4 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    She sunk the most successful submarine in the US navy
    By Herself

    • @Alpostpone
      @Alpostpone 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      No other ships would've been worthy of sinking USS Tang.

  • @ThomasAffoltertevis
    @ThomasAffoltertevis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    American submarines are truly one of the most underdressed aspects of WW2. The American sub fleet was superb, and it accomplished what the Germans did not: bringing a powerful island nation to its knees through commerce warfare.

    • @sniper.93c14
      @sniper.93c14 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Arguably the Allied Powers had far more investment in convoy escorts and developing a convoy system than the japanese did, so it was probably an easier job to do.

    • @JahBronee
      @JahBronee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      To be fair, the IJN didn't have near the ASW capabilities of the US and Britain.

    • @tequila_tibbs7938
      @tequila_tibbs7938 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not comparable. Germans were the avant garde and after 42 face vastly superior enemy than the Japanese. Benign in a sub in the Atlantic after 43 was basically suicide

  • @csours
    @csours 4 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    I'm just imagining a submarine singing:
    "Under the sea
    Darling it's better
    Down where it's wetter!"
    and convincing a surface ship to join them.

  • @rpbajb
    @rpbajb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    The story of the Tang is one of the most interesting in WW2. Dick O'Kane wrote a book about it, "Clear the Bridge", which is well worth reading.
    So rig for dive and take her down
    Go down down underneath the ocean
    Fearless men will find renoun
    In the deep blue underneath the sea

    • @KJAkk
      @KJAkk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I have O'Kane's other book "Wahoo" on my book shelf.

    • @JohnRodriguesPhotographer
      @JohnRodriguesPhotographer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have this book, excellent!

    • @lorenbillings721
      @lorenbillings721 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've now read both of Dick O'Kane's books: excellent.

  • @pf6797
    @pf6797 4 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    “The Shackles of Positive Buoyancy”
    I really needed a laugh this morning Drach, so thank you.

  • @jnelchef
    @jnelchef 4 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    A little story, when I was about 14 (1980 IIRC), my family took a vacation to Maine. In a little bookstore on the water, I found Dick O'Kane's book "Clear the Bridge". I had become enamored with "Run Silent, Run Deep" and the follow on "Dust on the Sea" and immediately fixated on O'Kane's book. The woman who owned the store came over and spoke with me about it. She told me her brother was the navigation officer on the Tang when she went down and he never made it back. That was my awakening that life was not all wine and roses and that men died to keep us free. "Clear the Bridge" has always had a special place in my library ever since and every few years I bring it out and read it again. Thank you for this video on one of the special ones.

    • @mrpagrant
      @mrpagrant 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you read the first 2 books in Captain Beach's trilogy, (Run Silent, Run Deep & Dust on the Sea), did you ever read the third, "Cold is the Sea"?

    • @jnelchef
      @jnelchef 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mrpagrant Yes, I have! The one about nuclear submarines under the ice. I've also read his account of the Triton's journey around the world submerged.

    • @condorboss3339
      @condorboss3339 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Have you read Clay Blair's _Silent Victory_ ? It's very heavy on the statistics, but an essential guide to the submarine campaign against Japan in WW2.

    • @jnelchef
      @jnelchef 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@condorboss3339 I've read about 1/3 of it, I need to go back to it. Maybe with all this "social distancing"...

    • @rpbajb
      @rpbajb 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mrpagrant My favorite book by Ned Beach is "Submarine!". Admittedly dramatic in its combat descriptions, it is nonetheless a rare intimate view of life aboard in WWII.

  • @asbjo
    @asbjo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    "Tang" in danish means "Seaweed"
    Too bad for the Japanese that Round-Up doesn't work on submarines.

    • @Sturminfantrist
      @Sturminfantrist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Asbjörn, Tang Its in German , Seaweed

    • @ShadrachVS1
      @ShadrachVS1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That explains why it was so successful then... the Japanese thought it was coming to help them turn Rice into onigiri or other foods.

    • @asbjo
      @asbjo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Sturminfantrist Germanic language tree languages have a lot of similarities. :)

    • @raymondleggs5508
      @raymondleggs5508 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Round up works on people unfortunately

    • @Tank50us
      @Tank50us 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dudum Dis

  • @edfrawley4356
    @edfrawley4356 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    The US Navy in its infinite wisdom had decided to name its submarines after fish. Thus you get names like Tang and Wahoo. I think it deserves to be mentioned that O'Kane learned his craft at the side of his skipper Mush Morgan on the Wahoo where O'Kane served as the first officer and personally calculated many of the torpedo shots made by that sub. O'Kane's assignment to the Tang was largely due to the training he received from Morton and was fortuitous as shortly after his transfer the Wahoo was lost without a trace.

    • @patrickmccrann991
      @patrickmccrann991 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Not without a trace. She was sunk by Japanese ASW forces in La Perouse Strait exiting the Sea of Japan. Most likely struck mines when she was forced down by aircraft. Witnesses saw two large underwater explosions shortly after she submerged.

    • @condorboss3339
      @condorboss3339 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@patrickmccrann991 According to the infallible wikipedia, the wreck of the _Wahoo_ was found in 2005 and identified in 2006.

    • @patrickmccrann991
      @patrickmccrann991 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Nope, Japanese records disclosed her location and outcome right after the war. 05/06 was first time she was located by sonar, but her general location was already known.

    • @condorboss3339
      @condorboss3339 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@patrickmccrann991 Sorry. Misread your earlier comment as implying the _Wahoo_ had not been located.

  • @MAXLD
    @MAXLD 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    - So, gentlemen, what new designs you have to reinforce our Subs arsenal?
    - Not much, sir.... well, unless we count that boomerang torpedo project we made for the lulz.
    - Sure, whatever, I'll take it.

  • @nitehawk86
    @nitehawk86 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    USS Tang: I'm teaching them a lesson about spacing.

    • @Crazyfrog41
      @Crazyfrog41 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is that a womble reference, I spy?

  • @karldzioba6963
    @karldzioba6963 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    After being (self) torpedo'ed, the Tang's stern hit bottom, with her bow sticking up above the surface. The remaining crew, then flooded the forward ballast tanks, dropping the bow to the sea floor so she would lay flat, and would make her harder to find by the probing destroyers above. They then rode out a depth charge, and ascended to the surface using the forward escape trunk. CDR O'Kane and the rest of the bridge crew were thrown overboard by the explosion.

  • @Teguvas
    @Teguvas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Did the tonnage include herself?