Tascam 388, 424, 414 // Portastudio Shootout

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  • I compare 4 track cassette recorders Portastudio 424, Portastudio 414, Tascam m30 w/ Yamaha MT44, and Tascam 388 Studio 8 in the ultimate shootout between analog home recording machines. If you're serious about home studios, tape hiss, saturation, and punchy warm beats, then you have entered the correct domain. Those unworthy will perish.
    Can you tell the difference? Tell me in the comments which is your fav!
    If you'd like to see more videos like this, please subscribe thanks!
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    Listen to the FULL song here:
    • Where Do You Think You...
    I am not a scientist. Nor am I an electrician. I'm hardly a musician. I'm just a person in a barn building a home recording studio. And I simply like torturing myself with unnecessary tests in my quest for the best worst sounding analog sounds. If you can understand this sentiment, then this is wonderful news. We've found one another.
    I learned some things for sure. For instance, my tascam 424 and 414 sound completely different to me.
    I'll try not to write too much of my own opinion, but I just want to point out a couple things. Once again this is not a perfect test. The idea was to send the same signal (one song) to all these different machines to hear their characteristics. Some of these machines benefit from a hi end boost, some don't need it (as you might hear). Some of these recorders like a hotter signal. Some run at a lower tape speed. Some of these cut out lot's of low end from the get go, and you can't get it back in. Depending on your application, you might prefer one of these machines to another. I notice a slight warble on the mt44 which I think is a defect, but I absolutely love that sound. (That machine was free by the way: • Best Cassette 4 Track ... ).
    This was a little test I was going to do anyhow. I tried to balance the levels a little to make it a fair fight.
    I'd love to hear your thoughts :)
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  • @jaq8604
    @jaq8604 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The saturation from the 388 sounds incredible! But the wow and flutter from the Yamaha was great too. I think it’s more noticeable on that machine because it’s a lower speed.

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that's a good point! i forget that the mt44 runs slower than the 424. yeah i dig the saturation on the 388 too :)

  • @cheekbone4554
    @cheekbone4554 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    underrated channel baby

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you cheekbone i appreciate that!

  • @peterbatten596
    @peterbatten596 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    There’s something about the 424 portastudio and it’s quirky natural hiss that will always be a personal all time favorite along with its ease of use when entering analog. All are amazing and give the song a lot more soul than plugins for projects like these. Definitely earned a new subscriber!

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      glad to have you

  • @badboychopsticks
    @badboychopsticks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think yamaha sounds really good for a casette recorder. the other two casette recorders definitely sound too lo-fi for me, theres a loss of clairity where it affects the whole mix too much. 388 winner for me. seems to do all the right things to the song! peace n love

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the mt44 is a cool machine i agree. i think you are doing some good critical listening. most people just listen for high end and low end, but there's more to the story. i hear you! the 388 sounds really nice just plugging headphones straight into it

    • @badboychopsticks
      @badboychopsticks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@travisraab ha thanks! i'm just obsessed with comparing the formats like yourself! keep up the good content travis!

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much :)

    • @John-mf1sz
      @John-mf1sz ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean r2r is always going to kick ass.
      Same with film photography. There’s a reason why digital photography has only just caught up with film in the last ten years or so.

  • @WotanSkyFather
    @WotanSkyFather ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The reverb on the 388 is so alive sounding. The Yamaha sounds nice and clean but warm, the 424 sounds like the 90's, and the 414 sounds like someones bedroom in 1996.

  • @Tetrakan
    @Tetrakan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Watching this while I fold my freshly laundered underpants #soothingsundays

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      haha😂👍👌

  • @RecordingStudioLoser
    @RecordingStudioLoser 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude I freaking love your channel. I've been binging like crazy.

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What??? Thanks so much!

  • @sesa2984
    @sesa2984 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t know if it’s the slight treble boost you did but through my crappy headphones the 414 sounds the best. Crystal clear.

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yeah there was an enormous treble boost. I messed up the test.

  • @zan6585
    @zan6585 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much! I typed a paragraph before getting to the end of your yamaha vid and then you literally talked about this video and I felt relieved but also silly haha. Thanks for this!!! I'm debating between the 424 and the yamaha but holy smokes that 424 is expensive. The 388 sounds incredible but is also crazy pricey and maybe a little overwhelming.

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you should be able to find 424s for cheap if you keep looking

  • @DiegoCarvacho
    @DiegoCarvacho 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is so nice... it is great hearing this comparisons. thanks for sharing

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My pleasure thanks for watching :)

  • @RockTelevision-vv1im
    @RockTelevision-vv1im 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome video!!! I may be crazy but I hear the difference even on computer speakers. It's a bigger difference than I expected, actually. I recently picked up a Tascam Midistudio 4 track cassette, but I need to get the transport fixed.

  • @RockTelevision-vv1im
    @RockTelevision-vv1im 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Anyone familiar with the Tascam 644 MIDI Studio? I picked one up a while back, I need to get the transport fixed. Seems everything else is OK. Seems like a really nice unit.

  • @fuzzcityrecords432
    @fuzzcityrecords432 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    cracking a cold one for this video, cool idea!

  • @kennyzee3221
    @kennyzee3221 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For me I preferred the Yamaha out of all the tapes, followed by the 414. I do prefer the plugin overall though but yeah what a lovely test.

  • @frankr6475
    @frankr6475 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Where can we hear the whole song?

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'll be sharing the link shortly frank!

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Frank Here's the full song! th-cam.com/video/In2XEzZk2RQ/w-d-xo.html

  • @RockTelevision-vv1im
    @RockTelevision-vv1im 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow, I noticed a big difference on the track with the warble! That would be awesome for certain songs, maybe use one of the others for everything else. They all sound good and warm, very usable.

  • @DenysZhuravel
    @DenysZhuravel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tascam 388 has awesome bass sound, but not enough highs for this song as for me. A little touch of eq could fix this. 414 with highs sounded good, but yamaha mt44 was the best. 424 just ok and lo-fi. But every tape machine made this song sound better and more "open" than tape plugin. Less mud and sweet compression.

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hear ya Denis! You have good ears

    • @alanfbrookes9771
      @alanfbrookes9771 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the results would have been different if the original recording had been made on the 388. The highs can also be affected by the type of tape used.

  • @CannabisReviewPDX
    @CannabisReviewPDX 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't play much and definitely don't know production but these videos are so interesting to watch for some reason.

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's awesome to hear! I figured these were only interesting to die hard tape recording nerds

  • @chesterfieldmusic7366
    @chesterfieldmusic7366 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve been trying out my old 388, as well, for mastering. Do the Line-in channels on the back of your Claret capture the overdriven 388 well? I’m just wondering if there’s any unwanted overdrive from the interface, when transferring? Any mix headroom recommendations going into the 388? I’ve been going to tape and then back out thru the master Stereo channels. (Or should I use line-out on each individual channel, it’s only two channels?) Thanks for the great examples!

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah i have to back it down final stage, or otherwise would have to use the preamps in on my clarett to lower volume. don't quote me on this but I believe the master channel doesn't drive, just the PGM master. something like that.

  • @4Ever4Track
    @4Ever4Track ปีที่แล้ว

    The 388 just has character for days! Long live tape!

  • @handssmelloh9173
    @handssmelloh9173 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice. Do you think there's any difference between tracking through equipment like this vs sending just the mixdown through? Curious to know what the differences would be.

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i personally think there's a huge difference. when you track to a machine with 4 or 8 tracks there's some interplay and cross talk and a drum track will hit the tape different than an entire mix. other people have told me that isn't true but i disagree. i can just kinda feel it when i do it

  • @billpolits7594
    @billpolits7594 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My pref in the tape machines is 414, 424, 388.

  • @stevencirile
    @stevencirile 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    388 was quite dull..definitely low bump as to be expected..plug ins sounded best in this case. I had a 388 want one to iffy maintenance wise though no parts available

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right on Steven!

    • @poofygoof
      @poofygoof 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      agree on the muffled-ness of the 388. it sounds like it may not have been aligned for the tape formulation used or perhaps the azimuth needs some tweaking?

  • @anderj4986
    @anderj4986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm thinking about getting a 414, and I was wondering if there was a way to use it as an effect for a DAW without recording to a tape? Is that possible? (Also, I've been like binge watching all of your videos. You're awesome lol)

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Ander! well the tape imparts the most signature sound of the machine. The pres are like 10% of the sound (depending on how gnarly the pres are). So yeah you could like run through the 414 and use it like a mixer and use the eq. Or if your interface has ins and outs you can use it like a send, and then use the built in eq. It might be cool. Thanks for the kind words I appreciate you!

    • @anderj4986
      @anderj4986 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@travisraab awesome thanks so much! I guess I need to start looking for interfaces then too lol. Anyway, keep up the good work my friend!

  • @RobinJamesHurtMusic
    @RobinJamesHurtMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating video, thanks for making and sharing it man! I love the track in all guises, top class job :D
    Surprised at how sweet the Yamaha deck sounded, really nice tone. Personally I really liked the 424! Not quite as sweet as the MT44 but I thought it had a nice bit of backbone to it, a core strength without being muddy. Best wishes from Ireland!!

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thanks Robin! I love Irish people

  • @Checker.
    @Checker. ปีที่แล้ว

    wait can you explain how you transferred the digital mix to your cassette tapes? Like what plug did you use and how did you check the levels? seems complicated and i havent seen anyone else do this

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  ปีที่แล้ว

      No plugins necessary. Just a stereo bounce

  • @nicktestajr
    @nicktestajr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    414 sounds the best to me. Or maybe I’m just nostalgic because I miss my old 414. Good stuff

  • @substance90
    @substance90 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The lower end of the 388 with the high end and stereo image of the Yamaha 🥰

  • @isaintjames
    @isaintjames 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    MT44 really jumped in with a KO. big shock!

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i know the mt44 is the best 4 track i've ever heard

    • @isaintjames
      @isaintjames 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@travisraab fair play on you for taking it on & completing the fix. top work, top man

  • @alexpipp
    @alexpipp 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Listen this on apple music around 6 months, angels harmony

  • @andypickeringmusic
    @andypickeringmusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is great! I should do some shootouts on my channel with my 4 track and reel to reel. Although terrified that the digital versions will win haha

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      that would be great! yeah i don't mind the plugins. i don't mind the unmastered version. i've listened to it too many times i cant tell anymore. gonna put on some bee gees instead

  • @ricardobirnbaum
    @ricardobirnbaum ปีที่แล้ว

    Bumped into your channel... these are really great videos! Really enjoying the content. MT44 sings to me.

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks Ricardo! it's great to have you here

  • @charlesrocks
    @charlesrocks 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    God damn I forgot how awesome these things sounded.

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      they sound nice , charles!

  • @sweetlou8208
    @sweetlou8208 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you get that ukulele to sound so banjo esq?? Are you just plucking the chord progressions chords? Sounds great

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  ปีที่แล้ว

      ancient secret

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  ปีที่แล้ว

      I just plucked it with fingers very aggressively

  • @marcosmelone6
    @marcosmelone6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    388 man, thats great!

  • @tbobbyelectric
    @tbobbyelectric 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Tascam 488, then the 424, + FINALLY the 414.
    However,I'm noy sure if that Yamaha is Magical or NEW, but OBVIOUSLY, I would HAVE HAVE HAVE tp get one of 'dem sons' a' batches'!!!!!

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      it's kinda magical yeah

  • @johnkaplun9619
    @johnkaplun9619 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    388 sounded the best to me, then the plug-ins, then the yamaha and then the 424. From what I've read online the high bias type ii chrome tapes don't saturate nearly as nice as reel to reel tape does, but of course you have to use it in cassette otherwise the noise would be poopie.

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hear you ! man everybody seems to love a different machine. so crazy. i like the mt44 and the 388

  • @thaexception3406
    @thaexception3406 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another goood video mane and what a voice!

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks man! yeah she's so talented

  • @wehappyfewmusic
    @wehappyfewmusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another great video, I’m about to try a similar comparison between a 424mkIII and a 244! Well they all sound rather good, but the slight treble boost on the 414 helps it cut through better. I think the low end sounds really smooth on the 388, but the mt44 seems the most balanced to me.

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thanks so much adrien. yeah that would be a great video. yeah the mt44 is really surprising. there's just something about that guy

  • @gordonsmith33
    @gordonsmith33 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm going to try this with a little micro tape handheld audio recorder. See if I can sync (or not sync ) the individual tracks . Might be a cool wobble effect .

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That would be dope. i have so many micro tapes and cassettes and no idea what to do with them. microcassette 4 track machine?? needs to be built.

    • @gordonsmith33
      @gordonsmith33 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@travisraab let's go!

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gordonsmith33 if you build it they will record on it

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Xylem Phloem dope.

  • @edward2359
    @edward2359 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like your vidz man..... Excellent!

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      William - Glad you like them!

  • @simonschole
    @simonschole 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video, thanks.

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're welcome Simon

  • @evantjturner
    @evantjturner 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome! can't decide if I like the Yamaha or the 388's sound better. 388 is definitely a dream machine for me though. Nice vid!

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I guess it depends on the application. To me, the 388 has a nicer overdrive. It has a great EQ. It retains more lows, has tons of routing, 8 tracks, has Track assignable DBX. Mt44 retains more highs and has a little warble but it was free and it's amazing. I think the MT44 is also cleaner. The 388 has an inexplicable a compression thing going on that I really dig. MT44 is way simpler.

    • @evantjturner
      @evantjturner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@travisraab yeah they’re definitely very different machines. 388 probably has more potential for a wider variety of sounds and uses👍 maybe in future videos you can compare types of tape and how that affects the sound on each machine

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@evantjturner yeah sounds fun​

  • @WindsweptDrive
    @WindsweptDrive 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My money's on 388 - got one in my studio

  • @saren6538
    @saren6538 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where’s the link to the track itself thanks it’s amazing

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      hi stephen i'll post it in a few days

    • @shannonpalmer
      @shannonpalmer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@travisraab did you ever post the link? This song is amazing!

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Here's the full song! th-cam.com/video/In2XEzZk2RQ/w-d-xo.html

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shannonpalmer Here's the full song! th-cam.com/video/In2XEzZk2RQ/w-d-xo.html

  • @owonobrandon8747
    @owonobrandon8747 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are a lucky boy !

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well I had to fix it but yeah I'm pretty lucky!

  • @andmoreagain
    @andmoreagain ปีที่แล้ว

    so did you actually record these to tape or you just ran them through the machines?

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  ปีที่แล้ว

      I obviously ran them to tape you can hear it

    • @andmoreagain
      @andmoreagain ปีที่แล้ว

      @@travisraab lol if it was obvious to me i wouldnt have asked. just making sure my suspicion was correct. not sure if you took that as a slight or something but it was a genuine question...

  • @edward2359
    @edward2359 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Listening to this in the cans, with plugs have a nasty face shift when they're applied to the signal of the stereo bus mix. The tape machines are noisy you're not dealing with a studer gain stage but, what the hell. The tape still sounds better.
    Sorry did I say face shift but did make my face shift..... 😂
    I meant phase shift

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Face shift for real tho 😂

  • @theprogrammerrolandmc3039
    @theprogrammerrolandmc3039 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    best tape deck is the fostex x24 for portability and direct in's and outs but reel to reels are better easier to fix maintain.

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      the best the greatest the greyest

  • @jonesvox1
    @jonesvox1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’d love to hear the whole song. Awesome production and love the mallets and her voice! Please post link!!

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'll have the link to you in a couple days! thanks so much

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Here's the full song! th-cam.com/video/In2XEzZk2RQ/w-d-xo.html

  • @alexpipp
    @alexpipp 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

  • @evanbluz946
    @evanbluz946 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just one question, why are you using Ozone Vinyl? Cool video btw

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      you don't like it?

    • @evanbluz946
      @evanbluz946 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@travisraab I do

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@evanbluz946 awesome. Yeah I just like the way it sounds

  • @ReverendGuyWallis
    @ReverendGuyWallis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video, just subscribed. great song too! its so refreshing to see a tutorial or audio related video that doesn't use some boring standard EDM or generic hip hop track that sounds like everything mainstream. its hard to even get excited when im watching videos about mixing when theyre using such crap music - but this song is awesome and now stuck in my head! also ive been using J37 alot, i think they did a great job although no plugin will ever be as good as the real thing. but my ears may not be good enough to tell the difference alot of the time so its at least convenient. keep up the good work, friend!

    • @ReverendGuyWallis
      @ReverendGuyWallis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      also curious - do you just run the mixes thru the tape machines? not recording anything on actual cassettes but just running it thru so it gets the sound of their consoles? i was trying to figure out how to do this myself and my mastering guru told me its not the sound of the cassette itself you want, its the sound of the console..

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      hi reverend thanks for being here. yeah the j37 isn't bad actually. i'm glad you like the song! i'll share a link when i have it.

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      no i recorded to the actual cassettes and on the 388 i recorded to lpr35 tape. In this video you can clearly hear what happens when you use a piece of vintage analog gear and NOT the tape. That's the m30. you can hear it compared with and without the mt44 cassette machine. makes a huge difference. th-cam.com/video/Jp0w5Y9gGHQ/w-d-xo.html

  • @truthfinder4973
    @truthfinder4973 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5 sec in 388, killed the daw f0r g00d l0l

  • @RemmyMusic1
    @RemmyMusic1 ปีที่แล้ว

    bro i cant believe you put your macbook on the yamaha theres a huge magnet in there that could completely wipe your drive lol

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  ปีที่แล้ว

      SSDs do not store data magnetically do there's nothing to wipe...but I'm not a scientist

  • @stefanoidili
    @stefanoidili 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    414 sounded great, kind of lofi and hi-fi at the same time…. The guitar really gained caracter….. throug my crappy speakers

  • @hooverhenry795
    @hooverhenry795 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    414!

  • @volvot5turbo
    @volvot5turbo ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe I'm an animal but to me on my Sony $350 headphones (price given to highlight hopefully quality not snobbery), the J37 and isotope vinyl sounded the best to me

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe everyone should just get those headphones

  • @lawrencerasmus
    @lawrencerasmus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think nothing sounds better than digital tape

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      no kidding! i've never messed with it. sounds like a fun thing. like a tascam dAT?

    • @chinmeysway
      @chinmeysway 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      digital tapes lasts for evvoar as well yaah!

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chinmeysway never tried it

  • @lawrencerasmus
    @lawrencerasmus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I tried this years ago so today Im going to try a mixer to a vcr then back to my interface In 24 192 to my daw 🤪

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i heard about this trick! i was going to try it out cause i have a couple vcr machines. i think i changed my mind after i heard that there wasn't any tape saturation. it's just digital recording basically as you said. but hey if there's a use for that it's a good idea! it's a cool trick either way. i'd like to mess with it. maybe i'll try it

  • @marcosaruca5283
    @marcosaruca5283 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im between the 414 and the yamaha.....the high end comes out better why still getting the roudness of tape

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i bumped those 414 highs pretty good my bad!

    • @marcosaruca5283
      @marcosaruca5283 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Travis Raab Guitar no not your bad your good lol your very good....i like the idea of recording through a vintage console and mastering with the tape....the high end is needed some of the complaints from the legendary engineers was not getting the high end....

  • @pumpernickelherbert
    @pumpernickelherbert 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder how much of the wow & flutter from the MT44 is age vs just poor quality transport? Regardless it has a very impressive noise floor. Also can't believe I'm here before 1k subs!

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah that's a good question. is wow and flutter supposed to be bad? It's like exactly the right amount of that artifact I want. I enjoy it. Yeah Kaszimir thanks for being here! My grandpa's name was Herbert.

    • @pumpernickelherbert
      @pumpernickelherbert 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@travisraab stylistically it sounds fantastic, although from a functional standpoint, it's not supposed to be that noticeable. If you wanted it to be your workhorse 4 track then maybe you should look into fixing it, but with as many other machines as you have it's a good alternative for more character!

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pumpernickelherbert my workhorse is a computer 😂

  • @Mark761966
    @Mark761966 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That warble is what's known as "wow and flutter"

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow ok! Cool

    • @EytanKoch
      @EytanKoch 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@travisraab ...yeah and flutter.

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EytanKoch wow!

    • @EytanKoch
      @EytanKoch 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@travisraab ...and...well, you know.

  • @chinmeysway
    @chinmeysway 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    pitched up is a winner.......!!!!! no. but maybe. but i need to think more. about it? great videos on this stuff! can hear the hiss in the real tape. fake tape sounded good though and that is sad. also confusing is that reel to reel tape seems to not sound that different in this case against cassette tape? maybe wider tape brings out better saturation. thinking that i have a notion that bigger tape / reel to reel is where the reel magic may in fact happen. maybe its not even true but what is the width of the tape, and or, are you just running things through the preamps? again, i am confused or at least unclear on how the machines are hooked up / being utilized.

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have some other videos where I record actual instruments to the machines so you can hear it going on. The problem with doing that as far as comparisons go is that I can't duplicate performance. So I ran the same song into each machine. thanks for watching!

    • @chinmeysway
      @chinmeysway 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@travisraab right, just not sure how the units affect things. is it just input/output simultaneously, just utilizing each unit's preamps? thanks

  • @YouLoveItBiatch
    @YouLoveItBiatch ปีที่แล้ว

    MT44 agreed with my ears the most

  • @douglasfairmeadow
    @douglasfairmeadow ปีที่แล้ว

    I liked the Yamaha. The 388 sounded way too clogged.

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  ปีที่แล้ว

      Like a toilet?

    • @douglasfairmeadow
      @douglasfairmeadow ปีที่แล้ว

      @@travisraab Lol yeah dude. Maybe ease up on them spicy beans.

  • @pepuletrz
    @pepuletrz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my guess..what ever one advances faster will sound better.

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good point ant eye!

  • @peterkiselev210
    @peterkiselev210 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What song is it?

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i'm going to post a link where you can check it out peter!

    • @peterkiselev210
      @peterkiselev210 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, I’ll be waiting

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@peterkiselev210 Peter Here's the full song! th-cam.com/video/In2XEzZk2RQ/w-d-xo.html

  • @Pyrofries
    @Pyrofries 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    where do you think you're going I left myself in your onion

  • @alanfbrookes9771
    @alanfbrookes9771 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's not really a fair comparison, because the original music was not recorded on those machines, and the sound will be affected by our computer set-up that we're listening on.
    I have two 388s and they knock the socks of any tape cassette machine that I've used. You would expect it.
    I also use an 8-channel MD Data machine, which is the closest digital recorder that I have, performance-wise.

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      interesting! thanks

  • @Gezira
    @Gezira 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A better comparison would have been to record directly on the machines

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      good idea you should make that video!

    • @Gezira
      @Gezira 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@travisraab sure but I don't have a YT channel, it is just a suggestion, maybe for the next one. Something simpler to record of course.

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Gezira did you check these two out yet? it's repeated performances directly to the machines. th-cam.com/video/Jp0w5Y9gGHQ/w-d-xo.html
      th-cam.com/video/UywcezgLbAs/w-d-xo.html

    • @Gezira
      @Gezira 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@travisraab no, thanks :)

  • @robertcrystals
    @robertcrystals 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd like to hear this recorded performance direct to the 388 rather than bouncing

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You mean track everything over onto the 388 from scratch?

    • @robertcrystals
      @robertcrystals 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@travisraab yeah babyyyyy, like next project use it to track to.

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robertcrystals ok cool!

    • @robertcrystals
      @robertcrystals 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@travisraab Also, if you submix it and put it down to all 8 tracks (I make a stereo rhythm track, then split everything else across the reamining 6 tracks in logic & output it to the inputs to record it to tape) and then add a touch of EQ. it does absolute wonders.

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robertcrystals sounds pretty cool 🆒😎

  • @edward2359
    @edward2359 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really need to get the API real to real Porta studio...... 😂

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      is that a real thing??

    • @edward2359
      @edward2359 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@travisraab
      😆 No brother..... I'm being an idiot..... Sorry I have humor I think other people get. The API Porta studio would be probably a studer a bit like a refrigerator or kitchen stove tank or an apex 1 in 8-track with an API console that's the API Porta studio in my imagination.
      Not exactly portable

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@edward2359 i love it

  • @blashuvec
    @blashuvec 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    oh shiiiit

  • @stevenewtube
    @stevenewtube 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Okay well, for me, the unprocessed original daw mix is the best. All clear, all the way to the floor and natural. The plugins sounds great, like the machines would have, at least sometimes. ALL those machines degrade/enhance the audio. There’s many ways one could use the tape sound to help create a colour for that unique effect but to me the truest listening was the daw.

    • @stevenewtube
      @stevenewtube 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great video by the way 👍

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hear you steve. I think part of the issue is that I mixed the song, then tried to undo some of it and then run this test. pretty flawed test now that I think about it in terms of 'making the song better' lol. for me it's a 'how does this machine or that machine sound' test. i probably i agree that the just the og mix sounds best, with the mastering chain stuff i had on it etc. some people take this test to mean that the 388 sounds like garbage cause it rolls of some much high end. well that would mean that the brightest machine will always sound best, and we all know that's not true. it's all relative and has to do with your application etc. i rant...

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks for watching! and i appreciate you lending your ears.

  • @vanessalouzon
    @vanessalouzon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    388 sounds muffled. It sounded better on some of your other videos... weird.

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      it's all relative

  • @hawk4366
    @hawk4366 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If u are recording on digital , and sending to analoge , then you really are missing the entire point .

  • @kernelpanique9361
    @kernelpanique9361 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    For me the yamaha wins.

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You might be right kernel!

  • @TotallyGoodatGames
    @TotallyGoodatGames 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Proud to be the 69th like 😩

  • @YoungNino2017
    @YoungNino2017 ปีที่แล้ว

    The real test of any of these is BASS! If you have a track with any significant bass you won't even be able to bounce a stereo mix without realizing instantly that you would never want any tape version. You'd have to try to somehow multitrack the bass to one track and the rest of the upper frequencies to other tracks, so 2 tracks stereo, and 1 mono bass track; if you don't give the bass it's own track it will mangle everything else above it and the irony is you won't even hear the bass very well, but you'll hear it compressing the higher frequencies when it comes in.

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  ปีที่แล้ว

      it's all about the bass?

    • @YoungNino2017
      @YoungNino2017 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@travisraab YES!!! if you just do some faint acoustic guitar and whispering you could record that with your phone and it would sound like a dat tape, like cassette, like 1/4" tape... you need a full spectrum of frequencies to test these things mainly because of BASS.

  • @soundretarded
    @soundretarded 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beautiful ❤

  • @sesa2984
    @sesa2984 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t know if it’s the slight treble boost you did but through my crappy headphones the 414 sounds the best. Crystal clear.

    • @travisraab
      @travisraab  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yep, faulty test