Echoes of Wisdom is a MIRACLE... But I'm Worried (Legend of Zelda)
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- Echoes of Wisdom was revealed at the Nintendo Direct today... I think that Echoes of Wisdom is an absolute miracle, it's a game that shouldn't exist by all accounts, it's made in the Link's Awakening art style, Zelda is the protagonist and it's the first new original 2D Zelda in around 15 years. But I'm worried, there are some things that are irking me about this game.
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The triangles floating behind tri seem to be the resource used for echos. If you look at the echo icon in the upper right it shows the number of triangles it takes to summon it. You can also see in parts of the trailer the triangles floating above monsters after they've been summoned.
Yeh, I might pin this comment because it's something I've seen floating around ever since posting
@@TriforceTrends Just to add, you can also see the first bed spawned in Gerudo beginning to flash, suggesting a pretty tight time limit to the echoes.
@@js739 if you pay close attention through the whole trailer, when something starts to glow is right when Zelda no longer has enough triangles to summon what she has selected. I think the glow indicates what is going to de-spawn if Zelda summons what she has selected.
I see this game as an attempt to merge the old and the new. I don't really care at the moment how well the gameplay will be pulled off I'm just thrilled that there is an attempt. We have 2D zelda, heart containers, left handed Link, a little companion friend, a pre-botw timeline placement(???), while maintaining player choice freedom and creativity. I hope there are traditional(ish) dungeons and a cute story but I am FLOORED at the willingness to embrace at least SOME old school vibes so soon after tears of the kingdom.
I can agree with this
Preach 👏👏👏
I lowkey feel like this game is testing waters for a more traditional Zelda style gameplay merged with the BOTW/TOTK one, if the reception is good enough maybe this will influentiate the next mainline open world game.
*applause* agreed!
Isn't it 3D?
I am concerned about the combat solely relying on enemy echos but maybe they could bring back the magic meter for elemental attacks so combat isn’t just echoing enemies
The reveal also shows Zelda fighting enemies with other echoes such as a boulder. Im sure there will be plenty of other combat methods to discover when the game comes out
I mean, it's an evolution of A Link Between Worlds, where you had more freedom than the previous games, and it was extremely well received at the time.
so long as it has some degree of the linear puzzle solving 2D Zelda games are known for... but if they go full on BotW/TotK with it where anything can be solved any way usually leading to a cheesy meta... that could be a problem
tbh the echoes also just look rather annoying to use
@@megarotom1590 Yeah hopefully they will make the menuing better than in totk, which to be fair would be an accomplishment to make it worse. And I still think it has the potential for good puzzle solving, from the water blocks and the two enemies spawned, it looks like the echoes are on a timer (but only if all 4 charges are used it looks like) so there's potential for really good timing based puzzles. We'll just have to wait and see
@@TheHyruleArchives yah the key is limitations, if they put enough limitations on the ability like time and uses then I think it’ll be good
Still feels weird Zelda can’t just have her own skills instead of just magical mcguffin
I hope this game does well so we can get more top down Zeldas
Same, more top down zelda is never a bad thing
Actually A link between worlds is the newest original Zelda not spirit tracks
I don't really count it considering Link to the Past was used as a heavy framework
Like the only reason why people aren't expecting a LTTP remake is because LBW exists
Otherwise though I agree, even still that's 10 years old now
@@TriforceTrends Strongly disagree with your assessment. That would be like saying because Mario World is strongly based on Mario 3, so its not fully original.
That's actually on the same level as saying Ocarina of Time is nothing but 3D A Link to the Past. Just having the same over world and Dark World/ Light World system shouldn't cause it to be looked down on so much. I'm sorry, I understand that its not that deep, but personally I feel like that's an offensively bad take. It kinda... Feels like a bit of a narrow mindset, and it reminds me of how people couldn't fathom having a different experience in Tears of the Kingdom because it carried over Breath of the Wilds over world.
I hope this game brings back proper dungeons. Lots of throwbacks to old Zelda with the Kakariko windmill, redeads, Zora, top-down perspective, etc.
I would absolutely love to see Link to the Past style dungeons make a comeback.
By looking at the D-Pad icon, I would guess that we will unlock more abilities as we progress through the game. I'm guessing Nintendo is doing the same thing they did with TotK, they start off by showing one ability, and then in later trailers, they show off a few more. I really hope this is the case because I fear the item placing might get boring really quickly.
The wind up octorok definitely seems like a separate ability. It doesn't have a triangle on it like the echoes do. I think the wind up octorok will function similarly to bombs and arrows
@@danielmatson4209my thought on that was its an environment thing and not an item.
The thing im most worried about is the combat. The whole creating things concept seems like it could be very clumsy and slow. I hope that's not gonna happen to the point where Zelda just picking up a sword is gonna be quicker than Zelda refurbishing the battlefield
The only thing that worries me about this is the menus and UI. The biggest issue with Tears of the Kingdom was the amount of time searching for things to fuse in the menu. It seems a bit strange that they only have on dedicated button to summon echoes. We don't know much about it yet, but there should probably be multiple buttons for summoning, especially since none of the slots are taken up by the sword and shield.
I wonder if we’re gonna get to play sections of this game as link as well, especially seeing his new jump attack
The game doesnt look interesting to me.... I didnt like Tears lego system, not really keen on doing similar with tables and beds. Not why I play Zelda.
Me neither, if it wasn't called zelda i don't think i would've even known
The top down Zelda games are my favorites in the series. Playing as Zelda and her being a summoner mage is really cool and I’m very excited.
Yeah Trends. I'm really excited about this. I've wanted a 2D Zelda for a while. I'm old. Bring on the puzzle box.
I think that Nintendo should've called this game Oracle of Wisdom instead of Echoes of Wisdom. It would've been a neat idea since I theorize that this game could potentially take place a month or so after Link's Awakening, in the Hyrule we hear about during the Oracle games. To further put this idea into motion, this game is the first top-down Zelda game to have the Great Deku Tree, and the Oracle games have the two Maku Trees. Perhaps the Maku Trees are relatives of the Great Deku Tree. This would tie in Labrynna and Holodrum with Hyrule very well. I also think that Nintendo balanced the mechanics of this game to where you can't break it on the same level as BOTW or TOTK. This game seems to be more confined to what you can and cannot do compared to open-world Zelda games. It's meant to merge the two gameplay styles and this looks like the best way to do it.
Part of me wishes Nintendo would just make a new traditional Zelda with mega dungeons, new and classic items, keys, and interconnected puzzle design. Instead, we’re getting beds and tables instead of a hookshot. I really hope Nintendo doesn’t step away from the original formula too much. There's nothing wrong with it; the original formula is still very strong and has a lot of potential.
They literally already said multiple times it's not coming back
@@ausgod538 Okay where? I didn’t read about them saying that about the 2D games. Can you share a link?
I think Echoes of Wisdom is definitely going to be a different way to play in terms of how we've experienced Zelda Games in the past. I'm quite excited for it's release and I would like to see more games like Echoes of Wisdom
There's gonna be issues for one person or another, however they should hold off until AFTER the game comes out and we've played it.
Looking forward to giving this a go but I’m a little unsure about it.
Hello my friend, i hope you're doing well, and it's nice seeing your channel grow 😊. Im actually looking forward to playing this game. I think it could be a lot of fun... Also, we get to play as ZELDA!! Keep up the great work you're doing 💚⚔️
really hope it isnt botw again
I think the game looks great, I just want Link to be back as the protag for the next 2D adventure
I feel this
@@TriforceTrends Honestly my biggest concern for this game is about what Link is doing. Is he just sitting there captured by Ganon? That just doesn’t seem like something that would happen to Link
I am very worried about the storyline will do for the future of Zelda after this game. I'm kind of just hoping it is a spin-off game, and after this game Nintendo will return back to the main story.
There isn't really a main story tho. There's just recurring elements across the games. Taking into account the timelines, there's 3 potential storylines they could follow, 4 if they just keep advancing the reboot storyline after botw
Honestly, what I've seen in the trailer really disappointed me. TotK is my least favorite game in the series, and this just looks like a 2D TotK. It seems like Nintendo is really trying to turn the Zelda series into something appealing more to the Minecraft crowd.
I swear if we keep talking about the zonai...
at least they actually exist now hahahaha
@@TriforceTrends they F'd the timeline I'm mad at them
I'm a little leary of the game. More info needed
I like this because Zelda is not able to climb and scale walls like 'Everyman Link' can. So We actually have a reason this time for getting an oldskool chilled back to basics Zelda , er Zelda game. 😅 Rather than just another 'next 1:1 money spinner'. But honestly, playing as a Royal Mage is really nice and refreshing.
I was very disappointed when I saw this game, They really had a great shot at making a phenomenal 2 d Zelda game and all they could come up with was this thing smh
playable Zelda been a long time coming haters are mad
I love your video. People are ALWAYS going to complain. It is getting annoying. If you don't like something, DON'T BUY IT, DON'T PLAY IT. Just let people who want to enjoy it and play it, play it!
"The legend of Zelda" is the title, it is absolutely main line also river zoras have been knowing about the "main" zoras since the oracle games
The little triangles probably indicate how many items you can spawn at once. You can probably upgrade them over time so you can spawn more
That's what I was thinking.
My main concern is the more options to solve a puzzle the less you actually have to think. Still what they have shown looks amazing and maybe the puzzles will be done in a way that blows my mind. Im also hoping that combat when summoning echoes has some thought put into it in a tactical way. We will be playing as Zelda and I wanna finish the game not feeling like Hyrule would be better off without her
not necessarily... It all depends on how they do it. I like the fact that they're not forcing one very specific and sometimes downright idiotic solution to a puzzle. But I do worry that they're too liberal with it like TOTK sometimes. Ultimately it's up to the player not to just cheese everything, but having the option makes it tempting. Path of least resistance, and all that...
I consider it mainline because it has the legend of zelda in the title and all the mainline games start with the legend of zelda besides adventure of link which is zelda 2.
You are an amazing zelda fan, we thank you
If it didn't have zelda in the title... would ya know it was zelda?
@@josiahtheobald689 yes.
@@josiahtheobald689This is such a dumb question, of course we would lmao. The enemies are the same, the general top-down style is the same, and the environments are all from Zelda. The fact that we aren't swinging a sword this time doesn't make it not Zelda lmao
That sounds kind of flimsy. Spinoffs can feature the title of the series.
i was kinda seeing this as a puzzle focused spin off, which really appeals to me, the cover art suggests you will be able to summon link eventually
It’s a mainline game tho.
@@d3va383 i guess it is, feels like a spin off anyway, not because of zelda, but because of the lack of sword gameplay, reminds me of captain toad
It’s not a spin off it’s a mainline Zelda game and it wouldn’t make sense to summon link because she would have to defeat him first
@@Starriaaafighting Link as a boss fight would be awesome imo. Maybe Gannon possesses him like he does Zelda in TP for a Puppet Link fight
I think we’ll get to play sections of the game as Link, a bit like Witcher 3 playing as ciri
0:51 Sure let's just forget about and ignore A Link Between Worlds and Tri Force Heroes. 😢
Link between worlds was in the old Link to the Past world and followed the same story and Triforce heroes wasn't traditional
@@TriforceTrends jokes on you this is actually the lttp map
@@TriforceTrends by that logic, Tears of the Kingdom wasn't a new original game because it takes place in the same Hyrule as Breath of the Wild, and this new game isn't traditional like Tri Force Heroes, either. Also, ALBW most definitely did not follow the same story as aLttP, at all. 🙃
@@TriforceTrends I like to think that this could be Hyrule during the time of the Oracle games but instead, Link returns to Hyrule when a month or so has passed after Link's Awakening and you could say that Echoes of Wisdom could be that lost Oracle game that was intended to be made to form the Oracle trilogy. Not to mention, we never get to see what Hyrule looked like during Oracle of Ages and Seasons. We obviously know that Hyrule was brought up, we just weren't able to go there.
@@thierrys85 lol Tears of the Kingdom is barely a new original game. Remember one of the biggest criticisms of the game is that's it's basically a glorified DLC.
I have a feeling there will be lots of criticism and hate, but after a few years it will be considered a real classic, kinda like how it was with Windwaker
Let's see about that. I disliked BotW when it came out and I still dislike it seven years later.
@@hist150project51 out of 30 million people. Seems legit to me
@@hist150project5that's like the coolest game ever
The Legend of Zelda series has never been shy of the player briefly controlling another thing/object. Think The Command Melody in tWW, the Dominion Rod in TP, and Phantom Zelda in ST. I wouldn't be surprised if we'd be able to fully control the monsters once we get some kind of upgrade (like a longer duration upgrade).
I am worried that this game won't be as great as it could be because of the gimmick. I feel like the echo's are going to be massively broken and really uncontrollable in terms of what you can do with them from day one. I get Nintendo always wants to do some unique gimmick with each new game but why can't they just do a new good story with 6-8 dungeons style zelda game. It doesn't seem like we are going to get that anytime soon which makes me sad. I will say I do love the art style and wish we could have the option to choose between link or zelda as the main character. Let Zelda be a magic wielder with a short range magic rod kinda power and Link with the classic sword and board.
Concurring with the comments talking about the triangles. I hadn't noticed that when you summon an item, the triangles following the fairy detach from it. 2:30
That's actually a huge relief to me since it means at least some kind of limit will be put in place. I just hope you'll gain them through actual progression and not just grinding materials or something.
If you look closely, in many scenes Tri only has 3. That appears to be in all of the "castle dungeon" style areas including the one with the rock golem. This seems to be like an opening dungeon, and once you complete it you get your first expansion similar to a "first dungeon gets you a piece of heart" scenario.
That was my biggest gripe with Tears of the Kingdom - everything becomes obsolete by just making a hoverboard and circumventing most of the obstacles the game throws at you. You can say 'then just don't make that hoverboard' but people will always choose the path of least resistance and if you can, you will.
I hope they thought of something to deal with that besides having a limit on the number of things you can summon at once. That said, I welcome the idea of playing as Zelda and especially the potential return of classic dungeons.
Not a miracle for me. I’m not here for it. I don’t want to play as any other character but Link, and so I view something like this as a waste of time and effort that could have been better spent on Links next adventure.
nintendo: throw rocks use beds summons enemies
me: can i use a sword
nintendo: execute the traitor
If Zelda uses the sword the gameplay will be the same as Link, just changing the "skin". I like the idea of having a different gameplay in the Hyrule world.
@@thunpin well sure diversity is cool and all but i want to magically duplicate a sword i dont think thats gunna be a feature
@@thunpinExcept link was literally building things to solve puzzles and kill enemies in literally the last game. This isnt unique.
I play Zelda for the action RPG puzzle gameplay. In that order.
This demo looks annoying as fuck.
Ya know...I have mixed feelings here. I like that Zelda is getting a game of her own outside of CD-i but it's kinda troubling that Nintendo still can't seem to shake that freer=better mentality and still don't seem to really get that giving someone a world of ways to approach something is one thing but making them all compelling is another.
Why get wrong easily identifiable and researched information, such that Spirit Tracks was not the last new 2D LoZ game?? Depending off your definition, technically it would be “Triforce Heroes,” but even then some might not consider that own because it was multiplayer and stage focused, so you could name A Link Between Worlds as the truly last traditional 2D LoZ game.
Link between worlds largely followed the exact same template of link to the past, which is also the reason why people don’t call for a remake of link to the past, because lbw exists… even dungeons etc are in the same positions
And yeh Triforce heroes I explain by saying it’s just not the same haha
I like everything about this except I'm also worried about (possible) the lack of direct combat and the summoning combat (possibly) being a chore/too slow to switch between "echoes" on the fly during intense combat situations. Enemies respawn after leaving/reentering mini maps in Awaking and there are often many types--no quick button sword swipe/attack item would make for frustrating gameplay--let's hope my fears are unfounded.
I think this game looks quite amazing, that might in part that it was just revealed so the hype level is way up, but looking good at the moment. I’m wondering if Zelda will have other abilities outside of echos. When TotK was first revealed the main thing they showed was contraptions made with ultra hand, yes they also showed the ascend ability, but it was mostly showing off the builds you can do. Maybe this game will have other abilities that could lay more into combat or other areas. Idk
I do think there'll be even more to it than the echoes but this'll be the main bulk... For me personally, this is enough, can't wait
I'm worried about this game. Immediatly I thought of tears of the kingdom when I was watching the trailer. I don't like the artstyle but you know if the rest is good I don't mind too much however it's the game play which concerns me the most. The emphasize on freedom, the "do whatever you like" from TOTK and the philosphy of there's no right or wrong answer everything works is not my cup of tea.
This trailer has me worried that the classic zelda experience is definitely gone even for 2D zelda games and the only way that I will be able to have this sort of experiences is by playing old games or remakes/remasters
My only concern is only that it seems you can ignore terrain and objectives almost entirely by just building bridges/stairs everywhere, you can just walk on trees so what's stopping you from just climbing up the side of the mountain early on? Seems weird, but I'm excited everywhere else
considering that Tri seems to be a replacement for traditional items, and the fact that triangles at Tri's back seem to suggest that you're limited to how many items you can spawn, what I'm hoping for is that while in theory you can spawn any item at your disposal, items and enemies with special abilities that you can 'echo' will only be available in certain places and most crucially dungeons.
Not only that, the number of times you can 'echo' items should be tied to your progression, such as completing dungeons. So as a consequence, while you COULD in theory climb any wall or tower with say, stacking beds or tables, since you're only limited to what looks like 3 items at the beginning, that won't be actually possible, you HAVE to progress through the story to be able to that.
That way you can marry both the 'multiplicative' gameplay philosophy of TotK, while also retaining that sense of progression and puzzle limitation inherent to Classic Zelda.
Its definitely way more limited than the concerns are speculating. However, I don't think you're limited on where you can summon them. The limitation is on where to find them, and I suspect some of them are rewards for dungeon minibosses so it permanently expands your arsenal, but only after progressing through a dungeon.
That said, its possible some limitations do exist, because Zelda in one scene summons an angler fish underwater. Is that only able to be summoned in water?
Annoying, needless limitation just like every game since ALBW. No item progression, just "here's all your tools for the rest of the game one hour in, and also suddenly you have a mana meter/your tools break for good measure". At least ALBW had actual dungeons and felt mostly like a zelda game
There’s gonna be more to this game than many think. They are clearly taking the Tears / Breatb approach to a 2D Zelda . Map looks huge with lots of secrets. I think the 2 part gimmick will be we also play as link in the dark depths to solve puzzles ect (think light and dark world )
I think next Zelda will be a huge 3D version of link to the past with extra stuff .
I really hope they keep the single-solution puzzles and include traditional dungeons. If they don't, I'll be disappointed.
single-solution puzzles are not a thing because they said that "everyone's experience will be different" in the trailer
I only hope they will invent dungeons in the next big Zelda we get in a few years again. Don't really care about EoW, it seems to be more for kids just like the Peach Showtime game.
I could honestly see dungeons in this game. Items would obviously need to be captured before they can be copied. There could be dungeons that contain the single original instance of an item that needs to be captured in order to complete the dungeon and can then be used in the overworld.
I think we clearly see dungeons in the trailer in several points though. Not just overworld entrances but actual dungeon interiors.
I do wonder honestly though... We have a fully rendered Link in this game, could it be we have a "dark world" story where we play as link that could tie to the "Zelda" game like the Oracles connected? It may be they want to keep link's fate a mystery and we get to play him for an unrevealed section.
The fact he’s so prominent on the title picture also makes me think u will play as him at some stage but who knows 🤷♀️
I actually really hope there's a co op aspect with link and zelda, that'd be really cool!
100%
I'm excited! I am curious if combat will be entirely non-confrontational, but Zelda having her own abilities and not just be a sprite swap for Link is the right idea.
Is Tri the spirit of the Tri Rod like Fi is for the Master Sword? Are they sibling artifacts from Hylia?
Im honestly meh on the game play shown. However I was hopping for twilight princess way to much i was disappointed. However i am definitely interested but won't be getting it due to our horrible economy. Donkey Kong is getting the money i have saved up. That said.... Deku Scrubs are back! This could be the worst performing zelda game in the history of zelda; but it would still be successful because of the return of Deku scrubs!
now after playing through it, it's probably one of my most favorite games ever. Hands down the best top down Zelda. I played every single entry in the series and grew up with it. But this game is just nuts. Visuals, Storytelling, alle the combinations of parts from different zelda titles fit together in a story that closes some loose ends and perfectly makes sense in the zelda universe. Awe to nintendo for this one, I did not expect this. I want more of that, the last big nintendo titles just keep crushing records. Quality content.
there already is a lot of "discourse." People are pissed that it's not traditional. I'm kinda cautiously optimistic and super curious. I never really cared if we got a playable Zelda or not, but this looks interesting, and I really wanna see what kinda puzzles and solutions this game will have to offer. I loved TOTK, but I hope they're a lot more cautious this time around with some of the puzzles being cheese-able.
I wanted a new 2D for the first year of Switch 2 because Nintendo has given away TOTK for Switch 1, now Switch 2 will not have a brand new exclusive Zelda game in its first 2 or 3 years possibly longer because game development is getting longer
It's not 2D. It's 3D graphics with a top down view. 2D is flat like a side scroller.
Considering I don’t think we’re gonna get a 2d top-down game like that again, I don’t really feel like saying 2.5d everytime I could just be saying 2d
@@TriforceTrends ... don't even call it 2.5D. Call it what it is a top down view zelda. Lazy generation. Looks great BTW lol.
This is semantics and it's stupid, you're just making an argument to make an argument. Everyone calls it 2D zelda because this is the type of zelda that originated in the 2D zelda. Everyone uses the term, get over it.
I am excited, but trepidatious. I like the puzzles. I just hope there enough action to mix in with it.
Yeh I feel this
I do think it's going to be a great game for new and old zelda fans! I seen a lot for this game. Hey, Triforce Trends, have you seen Zeltik's video of him playing a demo of Echos of Wisdom. It's awesome, you should see it. Great video anyway!! 👍
I'm actually worried that they are going to get rid of Link in future Zelda games.
Was this video first released for your members to watch first?
Imaging making £1 for everytime Edward said 2D, that's £9, in this video. I've lost track of what is 2D anymore when people talk or write about it, here's a game with full 3d assets, so it's 2D, I give up.
When has a new Zelda game ever pleased a certain part of the fanbase? I am very excited to play as Zelda for the first time since my toddler mind thought that Link was Zelda in the original game. The new game play seems to fit Zelda better as a character too. I still feel that making her as a reskin of Link would be a very bad thing for the series and pretty much break the Tiforce dynamic that the games have. As for the timeline, I'm kind of hoping this game fits in alongside Link's Awakening or near the end of LTTP as a parallel story.
I love this style, I prefer when a series sticks to a style and expands on it or tweaks it with new entries rather than rebooting it ever 4 years. Zelda is a magic user, and I love actually giving us magic user gameplay and not just recreating swordsman gameplay reskinned as magic
Can't wait to get this. It looks really cute. But I'm doing good I guess, I have 3 more Zelda games to play after the one I'm on. This will always be my favorite game franchise. 💋
While this is the same art style from Link's Awakening and simular map from Link to the Past, it's a lot more brand new to me compared to totk.
Also, I wanted Link's Awakening remake to be longer so now I get that!
I feel like many of puzzle interactions may be trivialized by the multiple solutions, and they will be reduced to easily surmounted obstacles
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>give Zelda one of the most versatile abilities in the series
>get stale
What? Kind of ironic.
Beggars can’t be choosers people I’m hyped
I really don't know what's so bad about traditional Zelda that it needs to be dismantled or re-invented. More than 10 years have passed since the last traditional game and now this one comes out that breaks the conventions of 2D Zelda... as if it were needed. I was hoping to be able to play Zelda at least in 2D games, but instead I don't think I'll be able to have a new game anymore, just remakes without surprises because they are games I've already played. you have no idea how sad this makes me.
I feel you, but let's wait until we know more. Maybe there will be traditional dungeons and integrated puzzles that will please our Zelda hearts. I'm a little concerned as well. Why couldn't they just make a traditional Zelda game? The formula is still very strong, but let's see what this game is going to be like.
@@HyruleStreams in my opinion it is Anouma's vision. He sees Zelda as a puzzle game with monsters. in this game it is clear that everything, even the combat, must be a puzzle. Now I'm just resigning myself to the idea that I'm a fan of a game that no longer exists.
@@kr4id418 I don't mind puzzles, but I really hope they will be interconnected, single-solution puzzles. Not the open solution puzzles where you can skip the whole thing if you're "clever" enough, like in Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom.
probably only some enemies can defeat others. this makes everything a puzzle. or lure an enemy from one side and then attack him from another.
This comment section has everything I'm thinking.
Personally I'm fine with playing as Zelda. What I'm scared about is that the combat system genuently looks, well, boring to me. I wnat to trust the Zelda Team that they know what they're doing. But I just don't want to spend 70$ on a game that will bore me with it's central mechanic. Yes, I can throw rocks at monsters, but I could do it in link's awakening as well and there I rather used the sword. And summoning monsters? I just don't know... I'd much rather be the one pressing the attack button rather than wating for the game to do it for me. How do you even construct boss fights(arguably my favorite part of any Zelda game) with this? From what I've gotten from the trailer there i are multitudes of escape sequences but not a single head on fight.
Also, dungeon items, please give me dungeon Items. I don't want a new Objekt to copy, I don't want something passive like an infinite oxygen Bar. I want a hookshot, a bow and arrow.
I know this is a mainline Zelda game but it's genuently hard for me to call it that when it is an entirely different genre than the rest of them.
A Link Between Worlds was not original? 😮
0:13 there’s a really hot girl on there?????????? hello ;)
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Getting games in the series like TOTK and this makes me miss the aesthetic and art styles of Twilight Princess and Ocarina of Time. Pass.
the heart piece is a good signal tho
I'm hyped for this game
>first fully original 2d Zelda since spirit tracks
Okay I get that it's not popular but why does everyone forget triforce heroes?
More of a spin-off than anything I think, it’s not forgotten, I was playing it not long back… But it’s in Hytopia, you can’t play it online anymore, it’s not in the traditional style, even less than like four swords and FSA, it’s just hard to call it an original 2d Zelda when it’s a multiplayer Zelda above all
First 2D zelda after spirit track in 2009.
Link Between Two Worlds: 🤡
Hmu when there’s a non-co-op 2d game that doesn’t take a good amount of its identity from link to the past
I can already see all the way people will be able to yet again cheese all the pizzles, I know I would if I bought the game. I am really happy with Zelda being a playable character, but the Zelda we know and grew up with, was able to fight! Not necessarily with a sword, though she seems to have been trained in such combat as well in TP, but there would have been nothing wrong with her having a magical rod that can shoot spells and attack that way. Spawning enemies is what might save the combat side of things, I see people talking about that this will be puzzle oriented, it won't. It'll be like TotK where you just cheese everything and bypass any kind of "intended" way of solcing the puzzles, though they clearly put an emphasis on those new games not having any intended way of playing anymore. I don't like minecraft, I don't like sims, I don't like animal crossing, I liked Zelda and Mario for a bit more light hearted fun, I don't get what Nintendos obsession with open world is anymore 🤷🏻♀️
I understand your concerns, but let's first see how they handle the puzzles and if there are traditional dungeons with integrated puzzles. I just hope they keep the original spirit alive in our 2D Zelda games.
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When Link kills Ganon in the trailer it reminded me of the Ganon from LttP so I thought this was going to be a continuation of ALBW or something, but I honestly haven't a clue at this point with the timeline. I'm just hyped to see Zelda in a Zelda game. It also reminds me of Zelda's Adventure a bit from the cdi games where she had a stick or something. I'm wondering if the staff she uses in Echoes of Wisdom is harkening back to that game. Great to hear from you again!
So something I've notice is that Zelda seem to have a jump button, unless the Roc feather is here but wasn't shown in the hud at any point. The looks interesting, seem a bit more confide and more of a limit of those echos. I do hope they intend to have more complex puzzles so even though we have ton of options you'll still need think how to place stuff. The D-button set looks like we'll get other abilities, who to say we'll be making Zelda into a wizard by the end, well would be nice anyway.
as someone who is more of a legacy fan and not so much a botw totk fan, this actually looks interesting. i think the 2d will allow for enough freedom to be fun but not so much that it ends up boring me, even with climbing on top of the oob, its not like i didn't use ar codes to do that in Pokémon as a kid. the triangles following tri shows possible progression system, the heart pieces, the lava area appearing to be a dungeon, and the 3 empty dpad spots interest me, not normal for Zelda to have a button on the hud that doesn't do anything. I think this is the most excited I've been for a Zelda game in a long time
I'm completely with you here. My initial reaction was honestly not pretty. Not because of Zelda being playable but the gameplay being so free and "messy". TotK is legit like my favorite game ever as of right now but I would've never wanted the 2D games to adopt the same crafty and boundary breaking mentality. I like that you brought up the 2D BotW prototype because that is EXACTLY what this game is to me lol. In the end tho, I want to give them the benefit of the doubt since I have never disliked a Zelda game and even loved Triforce Heroes. Let's see what they end up cooking!
It all depends on how good the dungeons are. If there are legit dungeons.
Ok but I expect Minish Cap remake to be basically Phantom Hourglass HD (Wind Waker 2D artstyle) not these toy-esq visuals again
Yea i wont be buying this as a serious zelda fan got all of them cib starting from the first gold cartridge. Im sure its going to disappoint.
Is it just me, or was there a mermaid who looked like Marin?
Is it a crime now to use the term 2.5d??!
considering we likely won't get a proper 2D top-down game again like lttp or something, saying 2.5d forever just doesn't sound appealing
@@TriforceTrends I’m equally fine with all 2d, 2.5d and 3d.. Hell even VR.. So long as it’s good quality gaming👍
I'm gonna miss Link...
You can replay all the others when you do :)
@@ComradeZelda yeah, but goin' forward i'm not so sure we will
@@josiahtheobald689 what makes you think that?
@@ComradeZelda because your playin' as Zelda now an the Zelda team seems to be obsessed the whole "breakin' the conventions" at the moment, an tryin' their dangest to stop what made the legend of Zelda, the legend of Zelda
@@josiahtheobald689 I don’t really mind them trying new things. Did you like ALBW? I feel that’s where they perfected the 2D formula and gave us a sense of real freedom in a classic Zelda with all weapons available from the start. That’s what Echoes feels like to me but instead of weapons, every exploit is a puzzle. Here’s hoping they have actual dungeons and I will not worry about the future. If anything this is comforting knowing that BOTW-style isn’t all they’re going for from now on. They’re still willing to at least return to form on the surface.
Every youtuber who is predictably doing the "I'm worried" videos... what do you want? A Zelda game where you play as Zelda but where the gameplay is the same as if you were playing as Link? So, a normal Zelda game re-skinned? In which case why not just play a mod, instead of being concerned that the game is trying to offer a different experience.
True, although I do think that they should have Zelda utilize items that she’s had in previous games like the Godess Harp, Purah Pad, and the Bow of light.
The bow of light should be an endgame item that you need in order to solve certain puzzles related to darkness.
Hyrule Warriors exists with a moveset viable for Zelda that wouldn't be similar to Link. I am sick of the defense squad using the same defense for this trash excuse of why Zelda is fighting with copy and paste ability using regular objects and enemies.
@@zerofudou5689Hyrule Warriors isn't canon, but its irrelevant even if it was.
No Zelda in the history of the series fits that style of gameplay except Twilight Princess Zelda, who the HW Zelda was based. Zelda doesn't use weapons in Smash Bros, either, she uses magic. Which is what she uses here.
But even then this classic Zelda design still doesn't fit that model of Zelda. And even Sakurai opted not to use BOTW Zelda because she fit the scholarly role more.
Each Zelda has a different design with different styles of how she would work and what she can do. The only.consistent thing Zelda has gotten over the years is that it's well established now that Zelda has the power to summon the Bow of Light or Light Arrows. And that I do think is an ability she will probably acquire by the end.
Link has a consistent design as to what he does.and what his core abilities are because he was long established as the main playable character so the only thing that changes game to game is his arsenal of items and tools.
Zelda is adapted on a game by game basis to.whatever the setting demands which means her.abilities and powers are not.consistent.
The only time in the series Zelda is ever depicted with any weapon other than the bow is in Twilight Princess where she has a rapier, so presumably there she was trained to.a small extent on.how to use it.
And no, Sheik never uses knives or daggers in OOT either. But even.if she did that's simply this version of Zelda being taught.how to use daggers due to the context of her story.
I think the echoes will produce as much creativity and chaos as building in TotK did, and I'm looking forward to seeing that. 😂
I think we are going to see some weird as heck skips of certain sections 😂
Our experience with this trailer has been opposite. That is to say I was excited when I first saw it, but the more I watched, the more nervous I got about it. Unfortunately I think it’s gonna sink almost as far as Peach’s Showtime
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Link Between Worlds??
MY WODDEN BOYS ARE BACK Y'ALL!
I’m excited for it
would u not count link between worlds as completely original?
Nah, just because it was made with link to the past as a big framework, like the world, where the dungeons are, the story to an extent, so not really, not against the game or anything, I actually prefer it to lttp haha