This kit came out pretty good! By no means a museum quality restoration, but makes a killer little player kit! I did glance over a couple things, you can find some more details in the description.
EVERYONE DO NOT USE PARAFFIN WAX ON WOOD EDGES!!! David please add a warning. Petroleum based wax will destroy wood shells and that should be noted. If you want to use a wax a) don't, instead get the edge recut b) use 100% beeswax if you must
Awesome video as always, i love all the videos but especially the restorations because i have two old late 60's early 70's Hoshino kits im doing up, so its great to get all the tips and tricks
I know you can’t please everyone all the time, and I love a good weird cymbal video, but I miss these kinds of videos. I’d watch these all day. Cleaning, restoring, rewrapping, etc. These are top tier rdavidr
Nice work! I bought my '66-'67 Holiday kit with Champagne Sparkle wrap in 1983.14x5 metal Dynasonic snare and 20/16/13/12. All for a whopping $300. I still have it, and it was my workhorse gig and recording kit for decades. I made a few changes though, as by the late 80's who wanted that Sparkle wrap? I stripped it all off, and the drums actually sounded better without the wrap and all the glue. Of course ten years later the kit became "vintage" and I thought "oh well I'm never going to sell them anyway". I also swapped out the old Swivomatic tom mounts and used Gauger RIMS mounts with Yamaha hardware. (Pro tip: Yamaha tom arms fit Rogers tom mounts, and vice versa. I went all-Yamaha only because I was installing the RIMS anyway.) I rarely used the 13" tom so the single 12" was mounted off a cymbal stand, avoiding extra holes in the bass drum for a Yammie mount. In the early 90's I found a 24" bass drum of the same vintage, already stripped of its wrap, and added that to the ensemble. I of course wanted a 14" floor tom, but that size has always been rare. So I faked one by stripping an old Tama Superstar rack tom and adding legs (the Superstar lugs resemble Rogers from a distance). That gave me the option of a 20/14/12 kit or a 24/13/16. Both kits still sound better than almost any other kit I've played. 🥁
I always used windex or glass cleaner and 0000 steel wool for chrome, we used to use it for detailing cars and it works amazingly on old gross drum chrome too.
Absolutely amazing video. The camera time, directing of photography, level of detail in exposition, simply tasteful-funky-fills and a standard of intelligence that makes watching a breath of fresh air. Thanks Dave, your content is incredible. Kudos.
I use the aluminum foil technique for chrome myself. I'll suggest another product that works extremely well which is "Barkeepers Friend." It is a dry powder and comes in a can like Ajax and Comet household cleaners. I give the parts and even my cymbals a bath and use a toothbrush or cotton wash cloth. It will clean and polish chrome, brass, bronze, copper and stainless surfaces. Rinse then dry and I think you'll be impressed with the results.
The " Whisp" of lithium grease was the magic ,that put the resto over the top ! Love it, Dave. That is a beautiful kit. Who ever owns it is lucky. Those old Rogers drums are killa. Fantastic shells. Great video brother.
i used to looooove cleaning vintage kits/drums when i bought them, late 90's, early 2000's. i'd put on jazz albums and take everything apart, basic clean everything, re-assemble, re-tune. so fun, such a good time-killer. was mostly into 60's Ludwigs, but did end up with some 50's/60's Gretsch, one single 60's Slingerland COB snare, a 60's Yamaha kit, even have 1 single 14" Leedy floor tom (of all things...) but never ended up getting ANY Rogers stuff. a lot of it looked pretty cool, but it was always a little pricier (along with Grestch) at that time. the swivomatic hardware was apparently simultaneously awesome and awful, lol. people were always looking for those longboard pedals...
No wonder my leftovers tasted so funny, that Tupperware off-gassing really made the washers and lugs taste funny. I knew it. Looks killer all cleaned up!
Evapo-Rust is by far the best hardware cleaner there is. I cleaned a 20 year old DW kit I had and it looked brand new again. Still need to aluminum scrub but not nearly as much elbow grease. Try it out.
What’s the best way to remove pittit chrome on a Rogers 380 .bass drum mount and the Tom mount diamond shaped thank I started using the bench wire wheels but it takes a while then I what to get some chrome spray can the one that’s closets to chrome.been wanting to get it back in shape.thanks
Next time use fairy liquid. Or a concentrated good Quality washing up liguid soak for an hour. No water just the liquid. Superb for paper and glue stickers.
Have you ever tried aluminum foil and salted water for cleaning chrome? I've seen it mentioned by various sources online but haven't had the balls to try it on the vintage bike parts I want to restore.
I'm the owner of this beautiful kit. I got it for almost nothing (when you consider the price for this kit with a matching snare). I also knew these needed some TLC and David immediately came to mind. I texted him within hours of getting home with the kit. (When the seller sent me pics of the kit, I immediately left the house, cash in hand as I know how aggressive buyers can be!) He did a superb job and his attention to detail is amazing. I used the kit on a gig for the first time last night and they sound as good as they look. David is the man! Thanks for your hard work and dedication 🥰
Rogers are one of my favourite Drum companies. I’ve only played one once, but they were very similar to my Pork Pie PigLite set. I absolutely love acrylic Drums for there projection and resonance, so to play a wooden set that had similar characteristics, was absolutely incredible. Their hardware seems like it was so ahead of most if not all the other companies at the time. I’m assuming you know, but just incase, you should never use more than two tension screws on the Tom mount. It was designed for two to push against the metal ball that is apparently egg shaped so it pushes against the inside of the holder and stays in place.
I think the perfect collab for me would be Dankpods and Rdavidr. Dankpods gives Dave the drum, and Dave repairs the ancient drums that Wade has in his drum museum.
15:45 This is something you did that wasn't mentioned, but I noticed it and I think it's a fantastic tip for when you're working on shells that are supported on a piece of wood by a vice grip- Screw down the shells into the wood through one of the hardware holes to keep it from wobbling around while you buff, sand, etc.! I never thought of doing this, and when I restored my Ludwig kit, it was a pain in the ass to work on the shells because they were moving around so much. I'm definitely using this trick next time I clean up some old drums.
Also, aluminum foil does react with rust, scrubbing away the loose rust, and oxidizing the remaining oxide further creating a more stable black form of iron oxide. Btw, don't use aluminum foil on chrome panels because the oxide layer on the aluminum does in fact scratch the chrome, and on a larger panel you will see it more clearly.
I had a Rogers 5-piece kit with Zildjian cymbals back in the '90s that I paid $250.00 for (the young man I bought it from didn't know the first thing about musical instrument pricing). I don't know what year it was from but, what I remember about it was, it had a white wrap and, the inside of the shells had a gray, granite look to them. I unfortunately traded them for a Charvel acoustic/electric guitar and a Crate amp (wish I still had that kit). Can you maybe guess a production year, David?
I dunno…. Call me lazy, but I just replace old hoops. They’re basically all the same (2.3mm triple flange), so instead of spending 8 hours, I spend $40 and buy all new hoops. My time is worth more to me than the money.
My father had a set of Rogers in Champagne Sparkle when he played in a band in the early/mid 60's. He gave them to a relative, and they got "stolen".... Really wish he still had them, because I would love to replace them for him, but they are hard to find and super expensive if you do find them.
I'm the owner and you're correct; David takes excellent care in everything he does. I didn't want the insides painted as I wanted to preserve.the original paint. And the hoop inlay was left off as I know Champagne Sparkle from that era is difficult to match up. I can assure you, David did a class A job on my kit!
The ball and socket swivomartic tom holder should have two set screws next to each other at a 90 degree angle. Any more than two set screws will damage the ball and eventually render the mount useless. The ball and socket is designed for two set screws to push the ball into the opposite side of the socket to create a lock. 4 holes... two screws.... just as the patent describes ... And those two set screws you found are Rogers screws and exactly what would have been in the mount.
You are correct, as I learned this recently (thanks to your TH-cam page!). I have learned a lot about Rogers drums and so has David. It was a good experience all around!
This kit came out pretty good! By no means a museum quality restoration, but makes a killer little player kit!
I did glance over a couple things, you can find some more details in the description.
Hey Dave, great work as always. Rogers drums have a special place in my heart. So what if they're not museum pieces. They pretty, and playable.
EVERYONE DO NOT USE PARAFFIN WAX ON WOOD EDGES!!! David please add a warning. Petroleum based wax will destroy wood shells and that should be noted. If you want to use a wax a) don't, instead get the edge recut b) use 100% beeswax if you must
maybe chain wax for bicycle chains is also working
Awesome video as always, i love all the videos but especially the restorations because i have two old late 60's early 70's Hoshino kits im doing up, so its great to get all the tips and tricks
Paragon is a German heavy metal band.
I know you can’t please everyone all the time, and I love a good weird cymbal video, but I miss these kinds of videos. I’d watch these all day. Cleaning, restoring, rewrapping, etc. These are top tier rdavidr
Agreed. These are the best vids he does I reckon.
Considering I've rewatched all his other restoration videos at least 3 times, I'm with you. Love new drum repair content!
I believe that I'm just a fan of anything this fellow puts on his channel. Any day he uploads is gonna be a good day.
@@jlhitz35 Jezz... good to know I'm not alone!
Agreed
Oldschool rdavidr, love it. I bought an old nasty Pearl Kit for 60€ and restored it because of your videos!
$64.18 in today’s dollar. Well done.
the hammering on beat to the background music right before 20:00 was very satisfying
Nice work! I bought my '66-'67 Holiday kit with Champagne Sparkle wrap in 1983.14x5 metal Dynasonic snare and 20/16/13/12. All for a whopping $300. I still have it, and it was my workhorse gig and recording kit for decades. I made a few changes though, as by the late 80's who wanted that Sparkle wrap? I stripped it all off, and the drums actually sounded better without the wrap and all the glue. Of course ten years later the kit became "vintage" and I thought "oh well I'm never going to sell them anyway". I also swapped out the old Swivomatic tom mounts and used Gauger RIMS mounts with Yamaha hardware. (Pro tip: Yamaha tom arms fit Rogers tom mounts, and vice versa. I went all-Yamaha only because I was installing the RIMS anyway.) I rarely used the 13" tom so the single 12" was mounted off a cymbal stand, avoiding extra holes in the bass drum for a Yammie mount. In the early 90's I found a 24" bass drum of the same vintage, already stripped of its wrap, and added that to the ensemble. I of course wanted a 14" floor tom, but that size has always been rare. So I faked one by stripping an old Tama Superstar rack tom and adding legs (the Superstar lugs resemble Rogers from a distance). That gave me the option of a 20/14/12 kit or a 24/13/16. Both kits still sound better than almost any other kit I've played. 🥁
I always used windex or glass cleaner and 0000 steel wool for chrome, we used to use it for detailing cars and it works amazingly on old gross drum chrome too.
Absolutely amazing video. The camera time, directing of photography, level of detail in exposition, simply tasteful-funky-fills and a standard of intelligence that makes watching a breath of fresh air. Thanks Dave, your content is incredible. Kudos.
I use the aluminum foil technique for chrome myself. I'll suggest another product that works extremely well which is "Barkeepers Friend." It is a dry powder and comes in a can like Ajax and Comet household cleaners. I give the parts and even my cymbals a bath and use a toothbrush or cotton wash cloth. It will clean and polish chrome, brass, bronze, copper and stainless surfaces. Rinse then dry and I think you'll be impressed with the results.
These old kits surely deserve some love along a good rinse or two!
You did an amazing job and the kit sounds awesome! I feel like you really vibed with it on that outro jam.
Love it when you do this kid of video, looks great!
I enjoy all your content. Keep it up dude. Currently trying to restore my old kit and using your videos as a how to guide.
David knew the people were begging and pleading and had to hit us with a classic video style lets fucking go
The " Whisp" of lithium grease was the magic ,that put the resto over the top ! Love it, Dave. That is a beautiful kit. Who ever owns it is lucky. Those old Rogers drums are killa. Fantastic shells. Great video brother.
Nice work
Enjoyed your grooving at the end
MAN WOW I LOVE YOUR STYLE WHAT A GROOVE DUDE U KILLIN IT!
Those Super Kick heads are the bomb. No muffling needed.
i used to looooove cleaning vintage kits/drums when i bought them, late 90's, early 2000's. i'd put on jazz albums and take everything apart, basic clean everything, re-assemble, re-tune. so fun, such a good time-killer. was mostly into 60's Ludwigs, but did end up with some 50's/60's Gretsch, one single 60's Slingerland COB snare, a 60's Yamaha kit, even have 1 single 14" Leedy floor tom (of all things...) but never ended up getting ANY Rogers stuff. a lot of it looked pretty cool, but it was always a little pricier (along with Grestch) at that time. the swivomatic hardware was apparently simultaneously awesome and awful, lol. people were always looking for those longboard pedals...
Great restoration! Really missed this kind of videos
Finally, your back. Good to see you. Love Rogers drums. Someday will have me a dynasonic. Nice job.
AHHH that 20" punch... Love it! GREAT lookin'Soundin' kit!
The End... Killer!!! I watch you playing a long time now and this was brilliant!
The work, also brilliant.
Keep on funkin´!
Cheers from Austria
this that shit that got me into rDavidr all those years ago. very stoked to see stuff like this again, but also love the newer stuff.
22 min video, I watched from beginning till end. great stuff rdr
Amazing restore! As the kids say “this is soo satisfying!”
That towel on the OUTSIDE of the batter head is a neat little trick!
Vintage rDavidr, love to see it 👌
Nice kit I'm impressed with your playing great technique
I love this restoration videos
I don't know if it would damage the paint but, for dry adhesive, hairspray works like a charm.
Owned Rogers , Kent , old Tama & Ludwig
Nice Video
No wonder my leftovers tasted so funny, that Tupperware off-gassing really made the washers and lugs taste funny. I knew it. Looks killer all cleaned up!
To remove tape residue, WD40 works surprisingly well. Let it soak for 10 minutes, that should do it! Liebe Grüsse Benno
Paragon is the series of cymbal Neil peart developed with sabian. Also glad to see a drum restore. Cool kit. Never dug Rodger’s much but good resto.
This is an instant classic rdavidr video
You made that thing go from old and nasty to brand new😮
Killer drumming!
Great restoration! The only thing I would’ve done different is swap the bass drum hoops to have the inlay on the reso side
Could you also make a Blazer video? It would be awesome seeing car content in your style.
LETS GO WITH IT!! 💯🥁🫡
Those sound awesome! :)
Evapo-Rust is by far the best hardware cleaner there is. I cleaned a 20 year old DW kit I had and it looked brand new again. Still need to aluminum scrub but not nearly as much elbow grease. Try it out.
That fill at 22:17 was really tasty!
Wd40 gets sticker residue off nicely.
Try quad zero steel wool instead of aluminum foil on chrome, works great on the chrome of old car bumpers and trim.
More kit restorations please! Also, have you ever thought about getting an ultrasonic cleaner for hardware?
Sir, let me introduce you to a product called Evaporust!
The WD40 equivalent works well also.
VIDEO IDEA:! You should show us your practice routine
the main ingredient in electrical contact cleaner is the best sticker remover.. FYI
You are a master
awesome!
The little shoes 😂
I think you should do a new video with the Rhythm Bytes Cymbal Set
What’s the best way to remove pittit chrome on a Rogers 380 .bass drum mount and the Tom mount diamond shaped thank I started using the bench wire wheels but it takes a while then I what to get some chrome spray can the one that’s closets to chrome.been wanting to get it back in shape.thanks
Ok now i want tom leg shos that look like chuks
You should get an SJC 😉
Fine steel wool works amazingly on chrome. 000 or 0000 won't scratch chrome.
Next time use fairy liquid.
Or a concentrated good
Quality washing up liguid soak for an hour.
No water just the liquid.
Superb for paper and glue stickers.
Have you ever tried aluminum foil and salted water for cleaning chrome? I've seen it mentioned by various sources online but haven't had the balls to try it on the vintage bike parts I want to restore.
nice
can I have one drum kit ?
Podias enseñarnos esa ranchera tan chula que saleen el video...
What head combo for the toms?
Coated Ambassadors on top, clear on the bottoms.
11:05 hehe green liquid
You're a bit good at what you do sir, thats come out great :)
PARAGON is a drum brand. I have a paragon snare and I used to have paragon bongos. Tell me if you would like to see pictures of the snare.
this is just a question, but does the tin foil method work on most metals?
just as long as the aluminum is softer, which compared to most metals it is. just do small test spot to make sure it doesnt scratch it up.
@@rdavidr thank you
I'm the owner of this beautiful kit. I got it for almost nothing (when you consider the price for this kit with a matching snare). I also knew these needed some TLC and David immediately came to mind. I texted him within hours of getting home with the kit. (When the seller sent me pics of the kit, I immediately left the house, cash in hand as I know how aggressive buyers can be!)
He did a superb job and his attention to detail is amazing.
I used the kit on a gig for the first time last night and they sound as good as they look.
David is the man!
Thanks for your hard work and dedication 🥰
deadly score, buddy!
David as always did a fantastic job cleaning and refurbing your kit!! It’s always nice to find a good bargain!!!
@@mattryan6886
It was a bargain that I would have been foolish to not taken the owner up on.
any idea what the sticker was? just curious :)
@@dextarantino9941
Not at all. Was hoping someone would lol!
David knew the people were begging and pleading and had to hit us with a classic video style lets fucking go
This whole video is great, but that groove to end it off? *chef's kiss*
It´s my kit... 😉😉
Yes
No
Rogers are one of my favourite Drum companies. I’ve only played one once, but they were very similar to my Pork Pie PigLite set. I absolutely love acrylic Drums for there projection and resonance, so to play a wooden set that had similar characteristics, was absolutely incredible. Their hardware seems like it was so ahead of most if not all the other companies at the time. I’m assuming you know, but just incase, you should never use more than two tension screws on the Tom mount. It was designed for two to push against the metal ball that is apparently egg shaped so it pushes against the inside of the holder and stays in place.
I think the perfect collab for me would be Dankpods and Rdavidr. Dankpods gives Dave the drum, and Dave repairs the ancient drums that Wade has in his drum museum.
Honestly meetin an Australian in Virginia would be wild
THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN, i don't know if their personalities would match but the love for the craft and history is there from both
Early
15:45 This is something you did that wasn't mentioned, but I noticed it and I think it's a fantastic tip for when you're working on shells that are supported on a piece of wood by a vice grip- Screw down the shells into the wood through one of the hardware holes to keep it from wobbling around while you buff, sand, etc.! I never thought of doing this, and when I restored my Ludwig kit, it was a pain in the ass to work on the shells because they were moving around so much. I'm definitely using this trick next time I clean up some old drums.
yup! shells can be awkward, just make sure not to kill the screw in too tight and deform the hole/wrap!
21:16 dude you’ve gotten insanely good over the years. Your grooves have gotten much more natural, and your fills have become tasteful and creative.
Early morning upload always hit the best bro 💯🥁
ooh I'm early early
under 1 minute gang
Finally back to acoustic kits.
Thank god
i literally had this in my cart dammit
Hell yeah!
”Babe, wake up! New rdavidr just dropped”
Also, aluminum foil does react with rust, scrubbing away the loose rust, and oxidizing the remaining oxide further creating a more stable black form of iron oxide. Btw, don't use aluminum foil on chrome panels because the oxide layer on the aluminum does in fact scratch the chrome, and on a larger panel you will see it more clearly.
Goo Gone citrus. Excellent for removing decals, stickers and adhesive residue left by decals and stickers.
@ 0:50 I'll bet this kit sounds the same as all of them.
what a suprise.
Nice work! Love to see your restorings😍
And also very nice fills at the end🙌
Mornin
I had a Rogers 5-piece kit with Zildjian cymbals back in the '90s that I paid $250.00 for (the young man I bought it from didn't know the first thing about musical instrument pricing). I don't know what year it was from but, what I remember about it was, it had a white wrap and, the inside of the shells had a gray, granite look to them. I unfortunately traded them for a Charvel acoustic/electric guitar and a Crate amp (wish I still had that kit). Can you maybe guess a production year, David?
I dunno…. Call me lazy, but I just replace old hoops. They’re basically all the same (2.3mm triple flange), so instead of spending 8 hours, I spend $40 and buy all new hoops. My time is worth more to me than the money.
We had a blue sparkle one at Moscow High, Idaho in the 90's.
My father had a set of Rogers in Champagne Sparkle when he played in a band in the early/mid 60's.
He gave them to a relative, and they got "stolen".... Really wish he still had them, because I would love to replace them for him, but they are hard to find and super expensive if you do find them.
Please make more of these restoration videos! These are absolutely my favorite kind, and this was nice and long too.
3:33 If I clean hard-to-reach surfaces I spray some WD-40 onto it. It wil loosen the dust. After that also use wet qtips to clean the surface
Nice
Nice work man! Even when it's not your kit and the owner says "I don't care" about this or that, your care is evident throughout.
I'm the owner and you're correct; David takes excellent care in everything he does.
I didn't want the insides painted as I wanted to preserve.the original paint. And the hoop inlay was left off as I know Champagne Sparkle from that era is difficult to match up.
I can assure you, David did a class A job on my kit!
Rogers made the best sounding kits from that era, imho
The ball and socket swivomartic tom holder should have two set screws next to each other at a 90 degree angle.
Any more than two set screws will damage the ball and eventually render the mount useless.
The ball and socket is designed for two set screws to push the ball into the opposite side of the socket to create a lock.
4 holes... two screws.... just as the patent describes
... And those two set screws you found are Rogers screws and exactly what would have been in the mount.
You are correct, as I learned this recently (thanks to your TH-cam page!). I have learned a lot about Rogers drums and so has David. It was a good experience all around!
Tape residue and stickers come off easily with either Goo-Gone or lighter fluid, aka naptha. Same stuff. Kerosene works too.
essence f pour les autocollants rien de mieux et ça n abime rien
Need a Blazer restoration vid!
I love me some Rogers drum sets. yummy.