Dungeons and Dragons: The Ethereal Plane PART TWO
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- Answering questions and mapping the D&D Multiverse. The true relationship between the Elemental, Ethereal, Demiplanes, Crystal Spheres and the Phlogiston, also, an intro to the wondrous ecology of the Ethereal.
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Fun fact: medusa, basilisks, and Cockatrace can see into the border ethereal. And they're abilities to turn beings to stone work on those in the border ethereal too!
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I could only imagine the shock of a low level party fighting a basilisk and suddenly the petrified body of a ethereal traveler materializing out of nowhere.
@@robouteguilliman6662 Give Stone Cursed ethereal stat modifiers and you have the whole "wight raising spectres" situation.
Does it also go the other way? Because that would be plain horror.
Earliest i ever caught a video. Thanks for keeping me company on a long overnight. This vampire has work to do.
Lol same
A parent that was just an illusion sounds like a dope sorcerous origin.
Etheric influenza. Goodness gracious.
I don't suppose a paladin's immunity to disease is lost in the ethereal plane? Asking for a friend. >:D
Nope. Paladins are immune to normal diseases, that disease is not a plague of sorts but a sickness from being in that plane... kind of like living in a radiation zone. It's a different level of disease resistance... and the biggest fix is to just not be there.
It is not, but in the case of fluid and particulate buildup in the lungs like this, its not technically a disease the paladin would be immune to, no more than they can just call smoke inhalation or poison gas "lung disease" and declare no damage or effect.
@@AJPickett A brilliant elaboration, my friend... far better than what I compared it to.
i think biological immunity to infectious disease might be more accurate. Disease alone would imply paladins are incapable of being everything from asthmatic to cancerous, which is honestly... kind of boring.
on a side note I don't understand the reluctance to nerf. It makes sense that under certain conditions a character will be nerfed. The "silence of Lolth"? the time of troubles? spell plague? these are all cannon events where character classes would be naturally nerfed. It makes sense that a paladin of Pelor is going to lose power in the Abyss. Or that a rangers ability to track will be nerfed in the shadowfell.
Spell casters are particularly averse to nerfage, because they feel like they are going to get shredded... personally, I'm just not the "optimum build" type of player, take something away, I will compensate by using this outrageously over informed brain meat to adapt and overcome, I find a clever win very, very satisfying.
@@AJPickett same here, my favorite player creativity awarded with bonus xp usually involves clever use of common magic or non magic items. Its amazing what a barrel of lamp oil can donor even a bag of nails.
I'm loving the stories from Dragon magazine you have been reading.
**about to close all browser things and start gaming before getting blackout drunk and passing out**
**AJ releases a video**
**Plans derail with a smile**
Thanks for clarifying the Ethereal oddities that I thought changed. From you making a point to do it, I assume lots of others got that same misinterpretation. Thanks for covering the Neth. Also, the Planescape Rogue Neth, a great optional player character race, is quite fun. Those Border Ethereal spiders are probably one of my favorite horror-type monsters to use as a DM of that plane. Your last video covering them was a perfect example of that... and I'm not talkin' about phase spiders, they are bland in comparison. One of my favorite things to do for some campaigns is to create a demi-plane for it that is cut off from outer-planar things, like gods among other things, and inner-planar travel is boxed within the demiplane's specific rules and its own elemental planes. I do have priest types but they get their faith magic from forces, philosophies, and their own faith power... not at all any outer-plane thing. Oh... and the whole thing about what causes a lot of evil are not just the undead but the souls locked into that reality, they cannot escape and can either reincarnate or become undead. The rest are just shoved in a form of purgatory of sorts for the undecided. For each one, I do have a fun big bad enemy that created that reality for epic reasons if the party reaches that level.
Also, the pseudo matter thing, people descending from illusions becoming real in the Ethereal. That's my origin story of my homebrew "body discorpment" process, inspired by the original Nintendo Entertainment System's Final Fantasy's Black Mages... also "shadow stuff", the monsters known as "Shades", the explanations of how illusions are shadow stuff and are pseudo matter that exists within the prime material plane while phantasms are actually illusions (things only the target sees) that are not at all physical. My only player who was crazy enough to take the highest level of Body Discorpment had the benefits of all magic he does is cast as if he's 10 levels higher, is 100% more effective in all ways (because those boosts are totally real reality-adding boosts by that point and illusions are next-level), his body weight is 1/10 of what it should be so that adds to his potential carried/max press potential, he needs only 1/10 of what he needs to live (breath, eat, drink, heat, etc), is 100% immune to toxins/diseases, and some other minor things I cannot think of right now. Sound awesome, right? Nope. The costs: All damage he takes is at 10x normal because most of his mass is pretty much illusion and once his real parts are damaged, the illusions based upon it unravel into Ethereal mist. It's not excessive, he went to level 10. It wasn't a mere 100% increase in each level too or else level 10 would have been 11x. Also, once you die, recovering you (at that level) can only be done by Reincarnation, Resurrection, or Clone... because Raise Dead does not have enough of you leftover. You are 10% of your mass, a mostly void gel in your form collapsing into going once you swoon from damage. Also, going to "death's door", you lose 10x your HP per round because you are f^cking disintegrating for the most part. Cosmetically, you look like a Shade monster unless you use your magics regularly to tweak your colors (which he did). I digress, he did love the Faustian deal that nobody else would touch EVER. I created that solely because he really wanted to Black Mage his character and explained it via Manual of the Planes, Shades, and Planescape (the early 90s). I accommodated him and made it far more cost than worth but he still LOVED it. It was role-playing gold, so there is that.
Can you answer why so many DMs ignore the border ethereal thing when monsters can attack them there, like a Medusa's gaze or monsters who exist on that plane too, when player characters use going ethereal as an escape? I mean, if a Medusa is looking at your magical ghost-form self, she will turn you to stone. You'll just stop being Ethereal and exist in both planes as their stone manifestations.
Simply put, I blame the game designers who have WOEFULLY ignored and downplayed the Ethereal plane in favor of the Astral plane, when clearly, the Ethereal plane is far, far better as an adventuring environment.
@@AJPickett I would call them more "game inheritors" than game designers but other than that we are so totally on the same page.
If demiplanes eventually turn into crystal spheres, does that mean that the domains of dread, God'smeet, Therusdune's prison, and others will eventually be part of the prime?
Possibly, its just a theory.
Woah part 2 didnt expect that, what a twist
I would love to see a two part video where the first does a glossary breakdown of all the major planes and their basic relationships and the part two showing how they’ve been changed and evolved like the shadow plane and what the spellplague and first sundering did over the history of the editions
Once again, thank you so much for being without doubt of the very best table top rpg channels of all time!
When AJ talks about planes, it is always the nerdiest thing I have ever heard. Thanks for the research bud!
Bing BONG, lore master AJ is spitting from the lore orb.
BING BONG
Blessings on your household AJ, Thanks for the lore!!!
ORB! (placeholder comment while I make some time stamps)
7:45 So the Ethereal is like a pool of flowing, frothing water creating bubbles (entire worlds in this case) as it moves. Cool.
Yes! Love this. Thought it was weird I didn't get a notification about this video.
The Astral and Ethereal do touch (or at least they did in 1st Edition), but only in the hearts of their respective storms.
Kina random and niche, but any thoughts on the Ghost Elves that live on the Ethereal Plane and worship Moradin? I kinda like the planar variations of Elves, and these ones are particularly strange. Really enjoying the content on the Ethereal Plane, especially since I had previously dismissed it as a basic transition plane. Great video!
I know that what the dwarves call “Mithril” elves live in a forest in the Ethereal. They make a key appearance in the Last Mythal trilogy along with the remaining Fey’ri (demon elves) on forgotten realms.
I need to research more 🙂
Love the longer format deep dives.
This is my interpretation on FR cosmology, and by extention, its multiverse.
Prime Material Plane is a sea of a strange substance acting both like gas and fluid called phlogiston. Within this substance there exist an infinity of crystal spheres containing worlds - each usualy a solar system.
Each world is surrounded by Border Ethereal plane, and within it, it has its own echo. Deeper into this plane exists the proper Ethereal plane called Deep Ethereal. Ethereal plane is filled with a mist of proto-matter, thought to be a much denser form of phlogiston, despite acting more like a gas. Within Deep, near the Border, exist Inner Planes, containing different elemental essenses that the ethereal mist consolidated into. Each Inner Plane is infinite and filled with elemental essense. Each of them conceptualy borders each of the other Inner Planes, crystal sphere in the Material Plane, and both Deep and Border Ethereal. Each crystal sphere can have a different Inner Plane structure, but usualy it has the common structure that the Realmspace has. At the edge between Deep Ethereal and Inner planes exists the Elemental Chaos where all of the energies mix and flow chaoticly, this plane is also the plane of Limbo.
Realmspace has six major elemental planes, Fire, Earth, Water, Air, Positive and Negative energy. Within conceptual boders between those planes are pockets of para and quasi elemental planes where two elements mix. Within those planes there is only one zone that borders all the others and it results in a perfect mix of those substances - the crystal sphere on the Material Plane, and its two twins, Feywild with a bit more Positive energy, and Plane of Shadows, or Shadowfell, with a bit more Negative energy. With the exeption of this space, within Elemental Planes there can be only spaces that border only exactly one other Elemental Plane. Para elemental planes are between purely elemental planes, and quasi are between elemental planes and energy planes. In Realmspace, the para planes between Fire and Water and Earth and Air didnt exist. There didnt exist a plane between Positive and Negative energy.
Each world is also touched by Astral plane, a realm of thoughts that is also connected with Outer planes. Outer planes are common for all worlds, but their contents can differ, in one Mystra might be dead, in other she might be alive, and in others, other gods may take her place. There are 17 Outer planes, each corresponding to the divine alignment, Good and Evil, Law, Chaos and Neutrality.
Outlands is a realms of Neutrality and connects to every other Outer plane, each other realm was connected to the two other realms bordering it on a Great metaphysical wheel in this order: Mechanus representing Order, then the realms representing Good, Arcadia, Celestia, Bytopia, Elysium, Beastlands, Arborea and Ysgard, then Limbo representing Chaos, then the reamls representing Evil, Pandemonium, Abyss, Tarterus, Hades, Ghenna, Baator and Archron. Each of those realms was more spiritual than physical.
Weave is a metaphysical, semisentient construct spanning each and every one of those spaces, allowing for the flow of proto-matter or thought energies to flow between worlds. Those energies are known as magic. Sentient beings, like gods, primordials and mortals can use the weave to shape those energies into desired shapes, this allowing for spellcraft. But one can call upon each type of energy directly, without the help of the weave, allowing for finer control over those powers, but also locking out some of the more complicated uses, with other complex functions possible or easier. This ability is centered in each soul, and its mastery is called Psionics, tho very few can discover, let alone master it.
This is the multiverse in which Realmspace exists, there are also other multiverses, each may be just a little different to the point that they are indistinguishable, or they may be vastly different. There are points in some worlds or their planes where two different realities meet. For Realmspace, on the edge of Feywild, there exists a border towards a very different reality filled with creatures alien to even the physical laws governing this reality. Those creatures already conquered their reality and are eager to colonize Realmspace and then all of the other world sharing its multiverse. Guarding against that is a powerful field of time distortion and the Cerulean Order that is channeling the energy asociated with the Prime Material plane.
That last bit got very interesting... Sort of blends the abyss and far realm together in a more logical way.
AJ, I was one of the many that asked for an ethergaunts video not realizing that they are more part of Eberron lore, my knowledge is only from 3.5 edition about the buggers, I just thought they sound like a fascinating race
They were also in 2e planescape lore under the name Khen Zai and ethereal travelers occasionally see their pyramids in the mist along with them (mostly the reds) appearing in random areas looking around, cheerfully explaining they're going to murder everyone eventually before going back to observing
Wait, he zoomed in on the orb
*Meeeeemes*
I been Ponderin the orb since before it was cool. Hipstorb.
Holy hells! This video and the long ponderous comments have my imagination in 7th gear. I love this community.
Campaign idea.
It's starts with the party fighting an evil elder god attempting to destroy the material plane. An epic fight ensues as the party is taken out one by one.
They are not dead but rescued by a good god and is sent to find artifacts throughout existence to defeat the big bad guy and restore the material plane.
The way I DM is leave the world wide open for my players and let them decide what and where they want to go. So it's kinda hard for me to go into more details.
Cataloging this video as an AJ F-bomb classic.
1.) So, when a part of a plane is consumed by the abyss, it detaches and falls into the outer plane abyss? Like some natural quarantine of the infected parts?
2.) Do you have any examples of such power sources (the ones needing warlocks)? And does the warlock need the patron in those cases, or can they discover that the deal is a bit one sided?
3.) Think a warlock can be a human/demihuman phylactery for something?
4.) I don't remember what it is, but I believe there are spell keys to get past normal planar restrictions, though these are neither easy to find, nor common knowledge.
5.) I know that, in spelljammer, there are cleric spells meant to open portals to realms where their god is present. This is necessary for them to regains spells since they can't get it in spheres where their god isn't worshiped unless their god agrees to worship all of the gods of a plane. Can that solution be used for different planes?
6.) Can you cover some of the natural ethereal phenomenon, like ether cyclones, that sort of ether wave thing, or the things that are basically large black holes? I'm especially curious where that goes.
7.) Can you enter or leave the ethereal plane without spells, Sigil portals, or spell like abilities? Things like the ethereal vortexes connecting the prime and elemental planes, or the color pools in the Astral?
8.) Can you smash the ethereal duplicates if you really want to hide what was there, or would you just pass through it?
9.) Would make an illusion of the actual thing overlaid on a duplicate be more likely to make it real?
10.) Would you say that things created on the ethereal plane, like creation, fabricate, and wall of stone (things that create something out of seemingly nothing) are permanent? What about creating something with the wish spell? Does it not have the normal penalties (though maybe the illusion quirks)?
11.) Can you enter the dream plane, from either the astral or ethereal sides? What about things exiting?
12.) Are there other psycopomphs in existence than those 4? Would it be acurate to compare them to angels (as opposed to gods/deities/primordials, demonlords/Archdevils/Archfey/Archomentals, or archons/demons/devils)?
13.) Could those ancient species have destroyed the mindflayer empire, or had a hand in the fall of the aboliths (not just the gods)?
14.) Do those ancient species fall into any of the more familiar categories like celestial, fiend, elemental, dragon, etc?
15.) Do memes reproduce?
1.) Seems pretty weird right? Tharizun throws the shard into the elemental planes and yet the abyss is in the outer planes? How does it work? I don't know, it seems wrong.
2.) Not examples from lore, no. I can throw theoretical sources at you all day... for example, a word of creation spoken constantly for all time that can only resonate with mortal beings.
3.) Oh, never say never.
4.) OK
5.) yes
6.) Certainly, the next vid will cover those events and also some known demiplanes.
7.) Yes, teleport without error and Gate spells work just fine.
8.) You can tear them apart, yes.
9.) I have seen no evidence of that, but its worth a shot. Like I said, there may be spells that can manipulate this effect which are not yet known in the game.
10.) Wish would be a different situation, as for the duplicates, they can potentially exist for a very long time, but if the object in the Material plane is gone, the framework for the duplicate is gone and decay begins. Magic can provide an artificial framework, and magic can be made permanent.
11.) Yes, Teleport without error, gate, planeshift, the dream realm is a location, like the astral you can enter either as a dream spirit, or a physical being (converted into dream stuff).
12.) Psychopomps exist in mythology and in the Pathfinder RPG setting, you can exchange them for a special type of Angel ranked between a planetar and a solar.
13.) Perhaps.
14.) Elder Being, technically they are Aberrations.
15.) Unknown.
@@AJPickett 7.) I meant natural means, like the astral color pools. In case you lack planer magics or something.
P.s. thanks for answering all of that.
@@dragonturtle2703 The fastest natural way to get to the Ethereal plane is to apply a crossbow bolt directly to the brain meat at point-blank range.
@@AJPickett fair enough.
Ethergaunts are not originally from the Eberron Setting, they were introduced in the 3rd Edition Fiend Folio, which predates the settings creation.
Ah, thank you!
@@AJPickett No prob. Love your videos btw. I get so many good ideas for my campaign from it.
New AJ video right in the middle of my night off? And about the Ethereal Plane? I know it's December but I didn't expect an early Christmas present.
Personally, I'm thinking of fusing the Ethereal with the Phlogiston and deep space.
Memes, Neth, and Dreamlands!
Would a death tyrant Beholder have his epic moment of conquest or just trap himself in his own dream?
If only you could just conjure up some food. Phasespiders have it easy.
Yay!
got a free day from work thanks to the cold snap that hit today (work in construction), get home and see a new video from AJ :) not much is better
There is so many possibilities for the ethereal plane. Those ancient sleeping beings of the ethereal, makes you wonder what the far realms really are? Maybe they are other multiverses. Ever wonder what creatures of the far realms think of the invaders from the prime material worlds? The entire cosmology is had to wrap your head around. Love it.
It is generally implied that most far realms creatures don't want anything to do with the inhabitants of the great wheel as we want with them
this video is basically giving more reason to believe my theory for a happy compromise between keith baker and wizards of the coast's continuities for eberron is likely the case for 5e, just makes too much sense, would be like them saying no to free money because how they would be cutting off some fans rather than welcoming the possibility for both continuities, plus i feel it makes int more interesting that powerful enough beings can make such complex demiplanes into full on worlds and settings
I love AJ’s fecund imagination. His are the stuff that dreams are made of, and it’s for me just a wonder to listen to his speculations on monster ecologies and’s histories.
I think it interesting how the Ethereal and Astral planes kind of mirror one another, at least superficially. Infinitely large spaces between other spaces, running on psudo-logic for both the living things there as well as the non-living things. Not to mention the interlopers and introduced forms of life. And, of course, there is the transitive nature of the two planes.
Honesty should add you to one of my games as a planar scholar of sorts.
AJ is an awesome AD&D sage.
Fun fact: the Plane of Shadow was, in 2e, the Demiplane of Shadows and it was theorized in planescape by ethereal travelers that if it kept growing it would become its' own plane of existence which is exactly what happened in 3e.
Additional fun fact: there's a theory that the Ethergaunts, also known as the Khen Zai, which are a race of extremely powerful anti-theist aberrant mages that at one point existed on the Prime and immigrated their entire society to the ethereal plane after attempting to destroy the Prime somehow only now reappearing to check on their handiwork, created the Clockwork Horrors. I'd love to see what a lore video on them would be like
Eberron lore.
You have given me so much inspiration for my next campaign! I love your videos so much, and appreciate all that you do!
I have so much I want to say ask and discuss!! I modified my own cosmology where the sun is at the center of the universe and the darkness at it's edges was the abyss consuming creation at a rate the universe continues to grow. The material worlds floated in an esoteric sandwich of ethereal and astral space. The feywild and shadowfell occupy the "places between places" dream realms are any anomolys that could appear anywhere only to merge or pop out of existence or rarely into reality.... Point is I could ramble on and on. Thank you for all the great videos. The planes are some of my all time favorites!
I love a good cosmology ramble 😎
Ooo, I missed a glue stick. Delicious desert!
I love what 2e did with the Ethereal. Did you ever make that vid on Ethereal servants?
Thanks AJ.
Not me pondering your orb as it slowly zoomed in from your Candlekeep Scholar portrait.
First ponder is free...
I would love to hear your thoughts on parallels between the Shadowfell and the Upside Down of Stranger Things.
I think in 5th ed the wizard 6th level illusion school feature Maleable Illusions would allow for control of your created illusion even in the ethereal.
If it were still an illusion... when it manifests, it's no longer an illusion :)
@@AJPickett that's a big caveat. I imagine major illusion at 6th level could be quite the nightmare.
@@itzybitzyspyder Oh, there are spells which change the entire landscape... can you imagine if it all happens to suddenly become real?
@@itzybitzyspyder Mix .. 4th-level Hallucinatory Terrain with Demi Shadow Magic along with 6th-level Permanent Image, and create your own demi planes out in the Ethereal.
Ideals for the player running a wizard/ psionic PC or as a DM designing a location map. Base the cubic area on the area of spell effect of Hallucinatory Terrain casted by a wizard able to cast Plane Shift.
Just regard all mind flayers to be 14th-level wizard or psionist due to their spell effects. So say you have a PC being a mind flayer/ 6th-level wizard, treat them as a 20th-level wizard. Since the youngest mind flayer to leave the colony has 20 years of experience. So treat them as forty year old humans.
@@AJPickett Illusion has a different meaning in AD&D, illusions are semi-real shadow stuff creations while phantasms are things existing only in the target's perceptions. Some "phantasmal" spells are actually illusions by that standard. So, once something manifests, if it's in the Ethereal, it's still an illusion, just a pseudo-matter real thing on that plane of proto-matter. It's also the basis of demiplanes created there having real things exist because everything manifested crossed the barrier, only at that point, from being illusion to reality. We got your point but there are a few steps you skipped, my sage friend.
The devil is in the details... more so than any official AD&D devil.
.. feeding the algorithm ..
can you get to parallel planes by way of the ethereal? like the feywild or the shadowfell? i'd think so, but i find it hard to say for certain.
They count as prime material planes in their own right, so you can get to them via the ethereal, yes.
Psychopomps?! That’s in Pathfinder. I’m not finding any Psychopomps in D&D lore by those names?
EDIT: that info is from Book of the Planes by Mongoose Publishing. That’s not officially D&D lore.
Correct
Nice.
I'm curious the odds of accidentally going to a parallel prime material. Unless you have to try really hard to mess up that bad in magic.
The Ethereal plane perhaps... perhaps... also provides a template that the Prime is locked onto, so that, things travelling via these transitive mediums just naturally want to click into their correct dimension. Just a thought.
You can give your players will points when they enter the plane so they can use that as they will. For food, or to push their hand through a shield, or to fight.
Love the video, wanna teleport over here and ramble at me for the next 6 hours I'll supply the pipeweed till were in the deep ethereal I'm in the great plane
Would you make the analogy the the Ethereal Plane is like a ocean of misty stuff, and Prime Material planes are like islands. Border Ethereal is like the shore or shallows
yes
Question: In some lore (and I believe mentioned in a few of your videos) one of the possible locations of Tharuzdun's prison is mentioned as the Deep Ethereal inside a giant, floating amethyst stone where Tharizdun dreams, imagining himself victorious in his war against reality.
Could this be described as a "crystal sphere" the gods coalesced out of ectoplasm (as you described) then sank even deeper into the Ethereal, hoping it never rises to the top?
And small bonus question: Any sources on what else is down in the Deep Ethereal that would be less than peachy-keen if it ever floated closer to a more populated part of the Ethereal?
I will be covering many of the known demiplanes in my next video in this series. Yes, Tharizdun's prison is located in the deep ethereal, it manifests as a massive crystal and its very dangerous to get too close, as it can suck your soul right out of you body and paint the outside of the crystal with it like some Banksy art. One legend is that Asmodeus was tasked with guarding the crystal back when he was an archangel.
@@AJPickett sounds like the most contemporary understandings of blackholes. Neato
@@AJPickett I wonder if he still us, and the Pact Primeval was just his requisition form to the powers saying "here is what I need to keep theAbyss in check so we don't have to worry about the same but different existential threat from Tharizdun."
@@misterjoshua5720 pretty much, but also, a total tax dodge by asmobezos.
Shedim are VERY different in D&D than the ones in Steve Jackson's In Nomine, as there they are Demons that must possess a host to manifest on Earth & look like shifting clouds of body parts out of a nightmare. In D&D they'd mostly be Chaotic Evil, but Lawful & Neutral might be different flavors of Evil they manifest as. The Prince of Factions is one of the most powerful, basically any group that attacks others, basically the bad "-isim"s of the world.
Shedim there are the fallen form of the Kyriotates who also need to posses hosts but can use multiple bodies at the same time, thus a flock of birds can be perfect spy network support for angels with a Kyriotate on the team. The angels who look like Lammasu in the sprirt world of that setting are the Cherubs & are NOT baby angels in diapers.
Kind of funny how the same words from ancient languages have been represented in different settings.
Loving this 👍 What a weird and wonderful place!
Easy fix: summon steed + cure spells = endless meat-steaks...
Regeneration + steed... Summon troll horse? Ooo... Yesss
Thanks for the video AJ!
Meaningful imagery 🤩
What are the unique named DemiPlanes that are in the ethereal plane and who created them?
Great subject for the next video in the series.
Cool
thank you!
Nice a part two!? Oh yeah!!
A new Aj picket video. its show time!
These videos are incredible!
Thank you very much :)
Nice! I was looking for more lore on the xill, hoping you can get into those in a future video. The modern incarnation seems to be quite different from the one in 3.5 (at least if you go by the Xill Cleric in "Tears for Twilight Hollow" versus the one in Mordenkainen's Fiend Folio). Keep up the good work!
I wonder if using Prestidigitation on etheric food would make it taste better, or make it more nutritious?
In my games it would! 😊
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Prestidigitation
“You chill, warm, or flavor up to 1 cubic foot of nonliving material for 1 hour.”
It could definitely make it taste better, but I don't think it would affect the nutritional value. Prestidigitation is a cantrip for creating simple illusions, so it doesn't change what something is actually made of.
@@brianroberts783 Didn’t AJ just say in this video that illusions on the Ethereal Plane have a chance to become real? 🤷🏼♂️
@@alanschaub147 Indeed, they are still composed of ectoplasm and protomatter, but they are similar enough to mimic DNA and stuff so, protein structures, absolutely, but perhaps not basic minerals and such.
If demi planes are on the ethereal why do breaking or overlapping extra dimensional spaces like BOA connect to the astral?
here's a general rule for life, and particularly literature and communication via text, always write the whole title out once before you start using an acronym or whatever to refer to it, particularly to a walking encyclopedia for which BOA could mean one of about six million different things. Specific rules can over-rule general rules in D&D, but all demiplanes are usually located on the Ethereal plane. Also, not knowing specifically what you are talking about.. if it is a very modern game lore thing, it may be that the author of it literally doesn't know what the ethereal plane is for and assumes the astral plane does everything the ethereal plane is supposed to do.
Extra dimensional spaces are generally not demi-planes, they are their own kind of 'planar bulge'. Some specifically dump into the Astral (bag of holding, etc) but not all do.
Also, to be pedantic, there are (psionically created) astral demiplanes as well
Got to love sumerian mythology 🐟
Tenebrous is a hell of a word, also the name of my current aarakocra damphir warlock/rogue. =D
Memes are from the ethereal plane?
It all makes sense now
Yeahhhh babyyyyy
MoistCritical quote?
@@AJPickett Probably Austin Powers, a 90s fun movie character.
yes let's ponder these orbs
I wanna see a vid on the meme spirits 🤙
I never even heard of them. Is it a 5e creature? I wish he stated the source of his info.
@@razzelmire2008 AD&D Guide to the Ethereal plane by Bruce Cordell. I do mention this... You really are being needlessly troll like today Razzelmire.
Perhaps most of the humanoid species were forced to leave their creation worlds in the deep ethereal when the ancient elders “ scrubbed their possessions clean of life” and were forced to migrate to prime material worlds, then formed their gods from thought.
Could very well be the case, yes.
The old ones in b5 are good inspiration.
The term Portal Magic gets tossed around a lot. Do you think it'd be possible to cobble together enough official lore to make a video on the subject?
Yes
@@AJPickett Please mention Shaundakul ...He was appointed God of Portals by AO (3rd Ed) and promptly never mentioned again.
@@GreatFindsRealty him and the Roman god Janus. Cats worship them every time they wait in front of the door they just demanded you to open.
does the etheral phantasmal killer have any stats or more info, i really like the concept
technically it is an 8 hit dice monster with some stats and abilities, but I left it vague on purpose so that viewers could come up with their own variation... because these things are very random, a set average stat block is counterintuitive to the concept.
Dig the orb, what kind of ponders you get out of that thing
This puppy is top of the line, on loan from Ulraunt's study, it normally runs at 10 ponders per hour, but with some extra cooling, I've gotten up to 15 ponders out of it for a short burst... course, I may be mistaken, I was kind of out of it when I was done.. the orb can handle that kind of pondering, sure, but my brain was red lining.
I'm working on a stat block for a Living Phantasmal Killer spell
4th! Closest to first yet...
I too very enjoy warlocks and it seems to me that a fay pact warlock would have no problem what so ever in a place like this?
Not much of a problem at all, no.
@@AJPickett nice! I love fey pact warlocks
Is the far realms connected to the ethereal? Or are they something else
technically the Far Realms are a parallel multiverse, another dimension that has its own cosmology, its not an outer plane or a demiplane or inner plane. It is weird.
why would paladins be effected? since in 5e they directly tap into divine magics via their conviction more so than being tied to a god, would appreciate some clarity on this matter
Which is why, when the game company says "Oh, paladins and clerics don't HAVE to get their power from a god" the older edition players jaws drop open and we just throw our hands in the air at how that just caused a massive issue in a major aspect of the cosmology and game play. WotC then says "Well people are free to play it how they like" and sweeps its issues with game design under the carpet.. despite the fact that IF THEY DON'T PROVIDE A BASIC LOGICALLY CONSISTENT FRAMEWORK FOR THE BASE EXAMPLE OF THE GAME UNIVERSE, HOW CAN ANY NEW PLAYERS ACTUALLY BRANCH OUT ON THEIR OWN WITH ANY SORT OF FUNDAMENTAL UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEY ARE MODIFYING IN THE FIRST PLACE?
Lmfao this is why I still think 2nd edition and 3.5 are still great because there are rules that create a foundation
one big note i'd like to bring in is that paladins in 5th edition don't have a direct tie to a power, it's internal. paladins don't have a deity, they have an oath. an oath of the crown is no less secular then a wizard. sure, there are gods that deal with royalty and magic, but a wizard doesn't (directly) lend power from mystra to do magic, neither does the paladin.
of course paladins make for great religious characters. very often an oath means they are the champions of an ideal. gods can be seen as personifications of ideals, or champions there of. it makes sense they'd work together, but they aren't tied to one another like clerics and their gods or warlocks and their patrons.
so i'd say paladins suffer no penalties (other then maybe some specific spells that fizzle) while in the ethereal plane as long as they hold to their devotion to their oaths.
Yep. I very, very rarely restrict characters this way, it's got to be a plot feature, part of the story.
Just dont drink ether
**drunk on AD*D ether**
DON'T tell me what to do!
**takes a swig of AD&D ether from flask, corks it, and staggers away**
@@That80sGuy1972 *staggers off a cliff, is so full of ether there is a loony toons moment of standing in mid air, then looking down before plummeting to the ground, then, ironically, waking up on the ethereal plane*
@@AJPickett **bumps into you at the front of the bar that did not exist until that moment after we both fell from some non-street position, with us both not noticing because we are both hammered**
Can you believe this Zmishi guy? Trying to be our dad and not telling us to not drink the ether. I mean, we are old enough to know when to stop drinking the ether.
**for the last few syllables talking to your illusionary clone instead of you while you staggered off into what everyone around here was just a shadow despite you seeing it what it is**
When you move into the deep Ethereal Plane with you cover the domains of dread? I wrote a adventure in Bluetspur and would love to see how close I got.
I most certainly will!
Can one encounter thier own ethereal duplicate? Considerations? Or if PCs meet the duplicate of a nemesis? I like the idea of them finding their own duplicates are the bbeg of a multi module mini campaign.
it's possible, at which point just treat it like an Astral (Starlight) Apparition.
Sooooo lets say an adventurer made a pact with a ancestral gost of a noble knight, leading to them becoming a hexblade. With there affinity to the ethereal in this manner, becoming a patron in their own right through the recreation of the order their patron was a part of and having gained a divine spark at the end of their grand adventure. Provided that they do not have any overlap in portfolios with a god to be absorbed by upon ascension, where would they go or would they have a choice?
They would now be not much more than a demigod in status and ability, they would next basically start to expand into a transdimensional existence, finding and bonding completely with versions of themselves from Parallel prime material planes.
@@AJPickett so it would be almost like the birth of a brand new great old one? This whole thing is just fascinating. I'm just trying to figure out how to do things with what was left behind for my campaign when I take over in our group.
AJ, you are a human treasure, I will listen until you have no teeth at all.
Awesome video! I have a question about how this fits in with other lore, and maybe we're getting into other multiverses here, but... if the Abyss was created from Tharizdun plunging the shard of ultimate evil into the primordial chaos/soup and not placing it into the Astral Sea like the Obyriths wanted, how is it that the Abyss is accessed through the Astral rather then the ethereal? Seems like if the ethereal better describes the primordial soup of creation rather than anything in the Astral... unless Tharizdun actually did place the shard in the Astral exactly as the obyriths wanted him to. Could the Abyss somehow moved to the Astral? Or maybe the Abyss is just what Tharizdun imagined would have happened if he'd plunged the shard into the primordial soup, thus creating the Abyss simply by imagining it. 🤔
I am wondering the exact same thing, and I can't find an explanation for it anywhere.... I don't think the Abyss IS a part of the outer planes.
Yeah it seems to me that its considered an outer plane for organizational reasons only. It makes a little more sense as part of the inner planes but I see it more like the far realms a sort of random cancer afflicting the multiverse as a whole and not real a part of the inner / outer division.
@@robomonkey1018 After watching all these lore videos from several youtubers I've come to view the cosmology as an imperfect understanding of the cosmos. It IS an organizational abstraction, which is why the abyss can be placed in the outer planes without behaving as or having the history of the outer planes. We know it doesn't make sense. The wizards and scholars of our fictional worlds, and the gods and angel as well, know it doesn't make sense, but no one *accessible* has absolute knowledge and is willing to share it. I would compare this to physicists having a solid understanding of Newtonian physics but recognizing that Realistic situations will break those equations. Newton is outdated but provides a model for everyday situations. Then relativity and quantum theory provide the most up-to-date understanding, but we cannot reconcile them, so we know that ultimately those models fail to describe reality accurately as well. They are simply "good enough" for general understanding in most situations. This is how I view the cosmology of D&D and why alternate models being introduced in official material doesn't bother me. I figure some wizard cabal or druid circle had some differing opinions and that's fine.
5:50 So...if the phlogiston is the flipside of the etherial mist... would that mean that if you are in the deep etherial and then try to get back into the material plane (like a phase spider or su/unccubus could) you would apear outside the crystal sphere? Or am i confusing something here...
yes, the border ethereal coexists with every part of the prime material plane, the deep ethereal is not 'further away' it is more like "no part of this mixes with anything else".
some Spells and some psi creatures in the ethereal can go thru World Spheres except The Known World & Krynn Sphere I though. Might have just be my DM in the past.
What is difference between Speljammer and Etherjammer. We have Etherjammers in Mage the Ascencion World of Darkness rpg. Sons of Ether tradition uses them as Speljammers when travelin in Deep Umbra or Horizon.
I'm not familiar with Etherjammers sorry.
Since the word 'Spelljammer' is a play on 'windjammer', a type of sailed ship, it basically means "runs on spells." Therefore, an Etherjammer runs on ether. I would assume.
I'd view them as the same thing, if any the only difference would be connected to the ethereal plane somehow
Out of curiosity are you thinking of continuing the history of the realms series maybe a certain ogre empire and a hammer?
Visiting the Moonsea are we? I will see what I can do.
Ethergaunts were in the 3.X fiend folio, but not with a ton of detail. I don't know what (if anything) 4e did with them, but 5e hasn't touched them (yet)
Indeed. They are involved with Eberron
If creation magic is more powerful I can imagine this realm ia a heaven for Artificer 😅
Alright, never mind i'm just blind xD How did i not see this video?! xD
Wow, why insult Planespeak? One of the highlights that makes that setting so unique. It’s like saying you’ll ignore talking about dragons in Dragonlance, Psionics in Dark Sun, or the Mists in Ravenloft. 😑
I didn't insult it, I just expressed a personal preference, which I am perfectly fine with YOU doing... *Hard stare*. Back the fuck up buddy.
so QQ for the community DM's "
would you consider devine/clerical tomes or scrolls rarer/harder to obtain than arcane tomes n scrolls?"
Other way around in my mind, reason being, Wizards are FAR more protective of their secrets and spells. hording and hiding their knowledge from other wizards who might steal it. Where as the Religious orders WANT people to know their gods. AND have a veritable army of priests monks clerics and acolytes that all are of the same mind. Just like the monks of Earth's History they spent their days copying various writings day in and day out. Add in magic and holy magic scrolls could literately be a dime a dozen!
In literature there is the example of Cadderly Bonaduce who reached a point of such devotion to the god Denier that suddenly he could see and understand that the common religious text was, in fact, like a powerful spellbook.
@@AJPickett I have been out of touch with realms lore since WOtC Decided to murder my goddess. And the spell plague burnt away the magic of my enjoyment of that campaign setting. I've only recently returned to DnD in the last 2 years. didn't he get turned into an undead or something?
Placeholder comment for when I watch this in when next few days when im trimming cannabis
This job sucks whatever you do don't rub your eyes, it's worse than peppers lasts longer and can't be washed out with anything that won't blind you