The Sound of the Xianbei language (Words & Sample Text)

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  • @ПетрЖамбалов
    @ПетрЖамбалов 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Xianbei - Buryat (khori dialect)
    3 - gur - gurben
    7 - dolu - doloon
    30 - gurcin - gushan
    1000 - min - myangan
    10000 - tumen - tumen
    Gold - altun - altan
    Brother - aqa - akhai
    Take - bar - barikha
    Inscriptions - bitig - besheg
    Official - bitigcin - besheeshe
    Grey - bor - boro
    You - ci - shi
    Wolf - cirno - shono
    Knife - hir - eri (blade) - ir (Mongolian khakh dialect)
    Cultivate - hurgay - urguulkha
    Official - irgin - erkheten - irgen (Mongolian khalkh dialect
    Arrow - jebe - zebseg (weapon)
    Hymn - magtal - magtaal
    Bald - muquli - mukhar
    Dog - naqan - nokhoi
    Peace - nayra - nayr (celebration, feast)
    Sheep - quriqa - khurigan (lamb)
    Khan - qagan - khaan
    Khatun - qagtun - khatan
    Cloud - ulen - uulen

    • @t3ngristtt
      @t3ngristtt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      well because buryats are mongol tribesmen

    • @barguttobed
      @barguttobed ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@t3ngristtt Yes Buryad is more achaic and closer to medieval Mongolian than Khalkha

    • @t3ngristtt
      @t3ngristtt ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@barguttobed medieval mongolian? Khalkhas are those mongols who were always in homeland under uguedei and tului families. Its just a term name which appeared in 15th century. Dayan khan gave this name to central mongols, which khalkha means "to cover-to shield" so they will defend the homeland forever.

    • @barguttobed
      @barguttobed ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@t3ngristtt I mean linguistically, Khalkha mongolian evoluate more than Buryad, and some phonetics changed. Buryad preserved more achaic traits.

    • @t3ngristtt
      @t3ngristtt ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@barguttobed so you wanna say that khalkha mongols forgot their original archaic traits yet buryats has it all like before? you must be joking.... i have tons of buriyat firends, most of them cant speak buriyat only few older ones speak, but barely not that good with so litlle vocabulary base. tbh russian buryats lost their own language due to switching to mainland russian language so the mongol language among russian buiyats already lost and stuck at some point and haven't developed since 1990s. today 90% of russian buriyats dont even know their language. meanwhile, on the other hand, khalkha still uses ancient traditional core and in combination with new without touching archaic traits

  • @Myrtle-top-vanguard
    @Myrtle-top-vanguard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    The pronouncer is a Chinese person learning Turkish (according to his comment on bilibili), so for this reason it’s may make this language sounds a bit like Turkish

    • @zwang3909
      @zwang3909 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      “评论区有人提到应该照蒙古语读法念,这种说法大概率是不对的,因为目前学术界一般认为早期蒙古语言的音系类似突厥语而非现代蒙古语。​”
      He emphasized that the academia believes the phonetics are closer to turkic than to modern mongolian languages.

    • @wanridohjiaa6097
      @wanridohjiaa6097 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      in wikipedia say The Xianbei are thought to have spoken Mongolic or para-Mongolic languages, with early and substantial Turkic influences

    • @flyinghighinthebluesky7445
      @flyinghighinthebluesky7445 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes, the accent (which we would have no way of knowing anyways) is distinctly Turkish

  • @khuchten1454
    @khuchten1454 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I can recognize 30-40% words especially numbers. But sentences are impossible to understand. I’m Mongolian.

    • @afasdfas
      @afasdfas ปีที่แล้ว +13

      In Kalmyk and Buryat dialects it is easier to understand, because our dialects are more archaic and didn't change as much as central Mongolian

    • @MisticMan-yk7gn
      @MisticMan-yk7gn ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@afasdfas Тийм

    • @borgilbatbaatar4949
      @borgilbatbaatar4949 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I understand 70-80 percent

    • @borgilbatbaatar4949
      @borgilbatbaatar4949 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Only 40 percent?

    • @borgilbatbaatar4949
      @borgilbatbaatar4949 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@afasdfaswhat words you understand?

  • @kang7014
    @kang7014 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    most ancient countires in Northern China was created by Xianbei. Royal families of Sui and Tang dynasties were half Xianbei. Most Northern Chinese should have varying degree of Xianbei Ancestry.
    Xianbei is ancestor of mongolic, and also appears to have close connection to proto Turkic people. If you think about it, the map is huge for this Turkic-Mongolic-Xianbei related people

    • @heaven.123
      @heaven.123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Tang dynasty was turk alliance and turk are highly respected not xiagbei

    • @munkhbayarsainjargal0929
      @munkhbayarsainjargal0929 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@heaven.123 Turks was occupied by Tang dynasty . They are not turkic people at all

    • @munkhbayarsainjargal0929
      @munkhbayarsainjargal0929 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Xianbei was Proto-Mongolic people not turkic . Have no match with turkic people

    • @yo2trader539
      @yo2trader539 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@heaven.123 Ruling class from the Northern Wei all the way to Tang dynasties were almost exclusively sinacized Xianbei. They originated in Inner Mongolia. The Gokturks were eventually conquered by these dynasties and drafted into their armies to fight their wars (particularly in Manchuria), according the ancient Turkic scripture in the Orkhon Valley.

    • @kang7014
      @kang7014 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@heaven.123 Ru saying they don't respect themselves?

  • @HeshigtenMongol
    @HeshigtenMongol ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I am Inner Mongolian, I can tell that this language is very close to ancient Mongolian. A lot of words here are same as ancient Mongolian but no longer spoken by us.

    • @borgilbatbaatar4949
      @borgilbatbaatar4949 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Many words still in use

    • @borgilbatbaatar4949
      @borgilbatbaatar4949 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      80 хувь нь бүгд ойлгогдож байна, хэрэглэдэг үгнүүд байна

    • @johnthiam2446
      @johnthiam2446 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      because most modern mongols are khalkha and khalkha were from the very northern tip of mongolia.

    • @HeshigtenMongol
      @HeshigtenMongol 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You clearly know nothing about the history
      @@johnthiam2446

    • @EchoVortex713
      @EchoVortex713 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@johnthiam2446Khalkha itself has various tribes from different parts of Mongolia . I’m from Olkhonud tribe and we mostly inhabited in north western part of Mongolia . Some others are from east Mongolia . You’re mistaken if you thought Khalkha Mongols only live in Mongolia . There are also some in Inner Mongolia and Xinjiang.

  • @Laurence0227
    @Laurence0227 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    we call elder brother "aga" in Hokkien and we call dad "Aba" like Xianbi and Buriyats :)

  • @araskaya2172
    @araskaya2172 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Similarities between turkidh and xianbei
    min-bin(1000)
    ağyil-ahıl(animal house,house)
    altun-altın(gold)
    qağan-kağan(khan)
    qağtun-hatun(women,khatun)
    tağman-dağ(mountain)
    Bor-Boz/gri(grey)

  • @shockloud3364
    @shockloud3364 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    As Native Mongolian i understand almost 50%

    • @borgilbatbaatar4949
      @borgilbatbaatar4949 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Сайн уншвал 70-80 хувь байна л даа

  • @asianview5589
    @asianview5589 2 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    Xianbei and Xiongnu are the ancestors of both Mongolic and Turkic peoples I think and it is there common origin thus.

    • @yo2trader539
      @yo2trader539 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      It's commonly accepted that both Xianbei and Khitan were Mongols. Some scholars argue Xiongnu were pre-dominantly Turkic based on Chinese sources. However, they need more archaeological evidence to prove it.

    • @RandomBestEdits
      @RandomBestEdits 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yes half of Xiognu Turkic half we’re oirad buryat kalka and the Turks left Mongolic Asia and Turkic spreaded

    • @MB-rb9tk
      @MB-rb9tk ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@RandomBestEdits there’s no evidence any of them were Turkic, or who Turkic people even were at the time

    • @barguttobed
      @barguttobed ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@yo2trader539 How u can thinking that XIanbei is turkic? The language on video is clearly Mongolic

    • @RandomBestEdits
      @RandomBestEdits ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Fkindo-europeanarechaotic even how can this video tell there is lot of historical proof of xiongnu or xianbe and khitan in east side of mongolia

  • @mehmetyldrm8380
    @mehmetyldrm8380 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Bir çok eski Türkçe kelime duydum bu sesli okunan metinlerde...

  • @davaadalaiayush3130
    @davaadalaiayush3130 2 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    As a Mongolian, i almost understand everything.❤️

    • @Lampey22
      @Lampey22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      As a Turkish, i understand like 40%

    • @Weeping-Angel
      @Weeping-Angel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      You must be one smart Mongolian

    • @exhaustedomfg
      @exhaustedomfg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Me from Kazakhstan and yes! I understand this! :)

    • @yo2trader539
      @yo2trader539 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Nobody really can be certain how the Xianbei (鮮卑) spoke in the 4th century. (Xianbei phonetics can be reconstructed using what we know of various surviving Mongolian dialects.) Historical accounts indicate Xianbei are from present-day Inner Mongolia and eventually ruled most of China. In other words, ruling class of Northern Wei (北魏), Northern Zhou (北周), all way to the Tang dynasty were sinacized Mongols. This also explains why Tang dynasty had so many foreigners working in their court.

    • @MB-rb9tk
      @MB-rb9tk ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Weeping-Angel many of the words are now synonyms or near definition words. Ex: nair in xianbei is peace but nair in mongolian means cooperation, or agiyl means house in xianbei but in Mongolian ayil means household

  • @tlatolcalli682
    @tlatolcalli682 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm impressed you've got this very very EARLY language!

  • @sansan2591
    @sansan2591 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    As a inner Mongolian I can only understand 60%

    • @BluePotatoHead
      @BluePotatoHead ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey bro

    • @borgilbatbaatar4949
      @borgilbatbaatar4949 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No no not inner. Its highly propagandist word

    • @salvatorenostrade3331
      @salvatorenostrade3331 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@borgilbatbaatar4949 It's true though. Inner Mongolia has been and probably always will be Chinese-Mongol. Mongolia gained freedom due to Soviet pressure on China and became slavicized. I'm not pro-China but Mongolia's history in itself is very odd, Soviets wanted a buffer state between it and the weakening Chinese government at the time and pressured China into allowing Mongolia to break free with some violence happening. Inner-Mongolia was safely within Chinese rule during the period. Once Mongolia became independent Soviets began killing off Mongolian clergy and nobility and enforced Russian onto the Mongols living there. (China isn't any better, not cherishing the Mongols living in Inner-Mongolia by not teaching them the script or language due to state mandated single language schools in Mandarin). Thus, he is correct it's Inner-Mongolia.

    • @cqn6052
      @cqn6052 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Xianbei belongs to Xibe and Xubu and says Turkic khan founded

    • @salvatorenostrade3331
      @salvatorenostrade3331 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cqn6052 Back then Proto-Turkic and Proto-Mongolic were intertwined and many Khaganates and entities had both languages within. It's pretty dubious to say one is safely "Mongolic" or "Turkic" until those entities formed within the years 1000-1200 ish. Take a look at the Yugurs, the arguable successors to the ancient Uyghur Khaganate in the 6th century, they have the Western Yugur language which is a Turkic language and closely related to the far older Yeneseian languages and Eastern Yugur which is Mongolic in origin. Likely thing is, like all Turkic Khaganates at the time and before, they were split into East and West and therefore had 2+ languages they'd use commonly. Mind you, the Yugurs descend from Uyghur Khaganate nobility, with their name literally being derived from "western uyghur". These people fled the Islamization of the Turks and kept their Buddhist and Tengrist roots and kept their language alive.

  • @alkarisi2585
    @alkarisi2585 2 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Idk how but I could understand so many words as a Turkish.

    • @yo2trader539
      @yo2trader539 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Obviously Turkic language originated in South Siberia and Mongolia. Most of ancient runic Turkic alphabet is found in Mongolia and later the Yenisei river region. (Mongols on the otherhand were more concentrated in Inner Mongolia. Most Turkic tribes were purged from Outer Mongolia during the Mongol expansion, but some minority Turkic groups still reside in present-day Mongolia.) The close proximity and contact over thousands of years is why Turkic and Mongolian share common vocabulary, grammar, music, culture, religion, clothing, etc.

    • @barguttobed
      @barguttobed ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@yo2trader539 No Mongols ancestors always lived in Outer Mongolia and Baikal region as well, turkic groups in Mongolia are recent migrants except for Tsaatan

    • @RandomBestEdits
      @RandomBestEdits ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@barguttobed and buryats barga

    • @barguttobed
      @barguttobed ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@RandomBestEdits Yes, buryats and Barga got same origins

    • @MB-rb9tk
      @MB-rb9tk ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@yo2trader539tsaatan are actually immigrants. They were given land in Mongolia to live in the 1940-50s just like the Kazakhs were allowed to live in bayan ulgiy

  • @Devman483
    @Devman483 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm dhzungar mongol i understand 70percent

    • @barguttobed
      @barguttobed ปีที่แล้ว

      Mendee Brother! I'm Buryad, are you from Xinjan?

  • @뽀뽀함하자잉
    @뽀뽀함하자잉 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a Korean person, it sound like Mongolian + Turkish.

  • @nadirhikmetkuleli7335
    @nadirhikmetkuleli7335 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    It is clearly seen that as all Mongols, this Mongolic language is also highly influeced by Turkic language and culture.
    Turkic Words > Xianbei Words
    Miñ > Miñ ( A thousand)
    Tümen > Tümen (Ten thousands)
    Altun > Altun (Gold)
    Emig > Amğa (Breast)
    Bitig > Bitig (Inscription, Writ, Letter)
    Bitigçi > Bitigçin (Official, Correspondent, Writer)
    Boz (Bulgaric version: Bor ) > Bor (grey)
    Tor (Bulgaric version: Çor) > Çur (stone)
    Qır- (to massacre) > Kir- ( to kill)
    Qırğuçı (massacrist) > Kirğayçin (assassin)
    Qural (tool, weapon) > Qurağ (weapons)
    Quralçı (weapon maker, weapon user, armed person) > Qurağçin (armed person)
    Quzı (sheep) Quzığan ( plural sheep in old Turkic, Bulgaric version: Qurığan) > Quriqa (sheep)
    Qapaqçı (gatekeeper, guard, qapaq: gate) > Qapaqçin (guard)
    Qağan (Khagan) > Qağan (Khan)
    Xatun/Qatun (Sogdian Xwatwen, xwa : self-, + auto, -taw (powerful, ruling) + en , feminine noun maker) > Qağtun
    Tağlar ( mountains, tağ: mountain) > tağnar (mountain)
    Toğan (hawk, falcon, from the verb toğ - : to rise, arise ) > Toyğon (eagle)
    Üreñ ( white, cloud white) > Ülen (cloud)
    Yıltırğan (brilliant, bright, from the verb yıltır- to be bright, brighten, shine, from the same root, yıltız, star) > Yiltuqan (bright)
    Yükseg (high, from the verb yüküze - to heighten, Bulgaric version: yükrüg) > jiru
    Beg (Bey, Chieftain) > Begeynar
    Erkin (Freeman, noble, from the erk, power) > Hergin

    • @barguttobed
      @barguttobed ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Those words are originally Mongolian and not borrowed from Turkic languages

    • @nadirhikmetkuleli7335
      @nadirhikmetkuleli7335 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@barguttobed That's not true. None of them has Mongolian roots that explain their root and suffix relations. But Turkic has verbal roots for each of them. If a word in Turkic cannot be explained by its root, it is not Turkic. All the words above can be explained by Turkic roots. Mongolian cannot explain the word roots.
      1)Miñ, Bi - or Mi - To get on, to be added on
      2) Tümen, A Tocharian word Tmane borrowd by Turkic and then passed to Mongolian.
      3) Altun, Al- Red, Reddish
      4) Emig, Em- To suck
      5) Bitig, Biti- To write, to draw, (especially with a sharp thing) > bi- to sharpen
      6) Boz, bo- to destroy, to make unusable, to change main characteristics, to distort, to mix different things
      7) Tor, to- to collect
      8) Qır- Qı- to stab, to bleed with a knife. Another related Turkic word qılıç (sword)
      9-Qural, Qur- To found, to arrange, to make
      10-Quzı, Qu- to breed, to cub
      11-Qapaqçı, qapa- to close, to shut, to cover, to block
      12- Tağ, ta- to raise, to add on, to attach
      13- Toğan, Toğ- To rise up, to arise, to ascend
      14- Üren, Ür- To engage in, To produce, To increase, to widen (clouds increase and cover the sky)
      15-Yıltırgan , yıltır- to be bright, brighten
      16-Yükseg, Yük, Load burden, yüküz- to add loads, add loads on, burden up
      17-Beg, An Iranian word related to Bhagha ( Lord, God)
      18-Erkin, er- to ripe, to grow, to reach. erk, growth, reaching, reaching the power, power and erkin, potent, powerful

    • @afasdfas
      @afasdfas ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@nadirhikmetkuleli7335 You don't speak any Mongolian and trying to give some explanation about our language? What a joke. It is clear that Mongolic and Turkic languages are related because share the same roots. But for Xianbei it is obvious more related to Mongolic than Turkic.

    • @afasdfas
      @afasdfas ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Both Turkic and Mongolic people are related and have the same roots originated from the Hongshan culture in the area of modern Inner Mongolia. Ancient Turkic were indistinguishable from Mongolic people.

    • @alperbeg
      @alperbeg ปีที่แล้ว

      @@afasdfas Yeah that is true. Xianbei/Donghu is Proto Mongol, Xiongnu is Turkic. But they are too similar because both sons of Altai.

  • @mishka3284
    @mishka3284 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    as a Khalkha Mongol i can understand a lot, 70 percent

    • @Paxia
      @Paxia ปีที่แล้ว

      Don’t try to connect yourself to nomadic East Asian warriors that were indeed of para mongolic descent khalkha. You khalkhas are Buddhist foreigners

    • @reinerelierilke4409
      @reinerelierilke4409 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Paxia you have an identity problem because you are a greek hittite anatolian who try to connect himself to steppe empires. Do a dna test and you will see. Don't try to steal mongol history to resolve your weak identity problem. Mongols are close to ancient Xianbei and Xiongnu, and Khitans. Just look at illustrative dna lol

    • @이재명각하만세
      @이재명각하만세 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It means mongol people just conquered china over and over again

    • @borgilbatbaatar4949
      @borgilbatbaatar4949 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@이재명각하만세what you mean?

    • @cqn6052
      @cqn6052 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Xianbei belongs to Xibe and Xubu and says Turkic khan founded

  • @MisticMan-yk7gn
    @MisticMan-yk7gn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Xinabey and Kalmyk-Mongol language
    carguycin-zarguyci
    Ci-Ci
    Cirno-cino
    derbel-debel
    diga-degter
    eben-ebesun
    hacin-hoto
    Irgin-irgin
    horay-garh
    Irgindiga-irginta
    gur-gurvn
    Dolu-dolan
    gurcin-gucin
    Tumen-tumen
    altun-altin
    aqa-aha
    Bitig-bicig
    Bitigein-biciqcin
    Bor-bor
    Jebe-zebe
    Kile-kele
    Magtal-magtal
    noqan-noha
    qow-qaha
    quriqa-quriqin
    Tag-teg
    Ulen-ulen

    • @brandnewvegetable
      @brandnewvegetable 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The Xianbei language is absolutely an ancestor of the Mongolian languages. Almost every word has its Mongolian equivalent.

    • @Secular_Turkish
      @Secular_Turkish ปีที่แล้ว

      Some of these words are in Turkish.

    • @buryat-mongol_2000
      @buryat-mongol_2000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Secular_Turkishthere is no proof that some of this words has turkic origin, for example word
      Bar(means “take” in all turkic languages, and turks are trying to prove that word “bar” has turkic origin
      But there is mongolian ancient word “barih” which means also take or hold. Since the Xiongu empire was confederation of all nomadic people (mongolic, turkic and tungusic), you should say that this words are common words

    • @volkanozturkmen6245
      @volkanozturkmen6245 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Xiongnu and Huns ruled the Mongols, but they were not Mongols, they were Turks​@@buryat-mongol_2000

    • @volkanozturkmen6245
      @volkanozturkmen6245 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@buryat-mongol_2000The state was founded by Turks, its army was Turks, their language was Turkish and their rulers were Turks. In Chinese sources, Huns and Xiongnu are mentioned as Turks.

  • @bakdakal
    @bakdakal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Maybe it depends on the pronunciation but this sounds mot Turkic than Mongolic

  • @wenliu5051
    @wenliu5051 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Brilliant piece work, may I ask how did you come to know this is how Xianbei sounded like,

    • @miniioe
      @miniioe ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorta to how scholars know what PIE sounded like

  • @hazard1648
    @hazard1648 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Absolutely great video! May I ask where did you find the vocabulary about Serbi language? Thanks!

  • @kiiiiit5109
    @kiiiiit5109 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Looks like mostly mongolian words, but I can pick up a few Turkic words (I am Kazakh)

    • @PimsleurTurkishLessons
      @PimsleurTurkishLessons 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This video has too many Turkic orginal words.

    • @RandomBestEdits
      @RandomBestEdits 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My hasag pisda yah geji baitag bogdiir darhan

    • @Coby000
      @Coby000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      it is not stealing bro :) think about it same religion same lifestyle almost same names ?(chagatai-batu...)

    • @PimsleurTurkishLessons
      @PimsleurTurkishLessons 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      the sample text belongs to Huis Tolgoi.his stone text was found in Mongolia. it i its date is 580. this time there was GökTürk Khaganate in Central asia and Mongolia. (that is why text says Türk kağan(khan).)
      The Inscription of Hüis Tolgoi (HT) is a monolingual inscription in a Mongolian language[1] found in Bulgan Province, Mongolia in 1975 by D. Navaan. The 11-line text is written in vertical Brahmi script running right to left with horizontal marks separating words. The language of the inscription was unknown until the joint expedition of Alexander Vovin, Étienne de la Vaissière, Dieter Maue and Mehmet Ölmez to Mongolia in 2014 for closer imaging of the stele. Due to certain morphological peculiarities the language of the inscription was hypothesized to be Mongolic rather than Turkic. The language, "which can be conditionally termed as a variety of Para-Mongolic," is "much closer to the mainstream Mongolic languages, such as Middle Mongolian and modern extant Mongolic languages than to Serbi-Khitan,"[2] and is beyond reasonable doubt some form of Mongolic, close to the mainstream Mongolic language

    • @barguttobed
      @barguttobed ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PimsleurTurkishLessons Not hypothesized but proved, its clearly Mongol man, not turkic

  • @qszsqaw
    @qszsqaw ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The Xianbei completely defeated the Xiongnu and drove the Xiongnu from the Mongolian plateau to Central Asia.If you read Shiji, the Xiongnu were originally surrendered to the Donghu (ancestor of the Xianbei people)

    • @yo2trader539
      @yo2trader539 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Xianbei were Monoglic clans from Inner Mongolia, but Chinese records say the Yuwen clan of Northern Zhou ruling family had Xiongnu heritage. Xiongnu was a collection of dozens of clans, so I don't think they were completely defeated or pushed out. It's more like musical chairs with different clans becoming top dog depending on the era.

    • @cely1234
      @cely1234 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Podemos conversar , fui rourana en vida pasada.. quienes eran los rourana? Investigué y mencionan que posiblemente eran de xianbei. Amo mucho todo lo asiático soy de América central. Agradezco tu información.

    • @RandomGuy-df1oy
      @RandomGuy-df1oy ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No originally Donghu were subjects of Xiongnu, thanks to Modu Chanyu.

    • @salvatorenostrade3331
      @salvatorenostrade3331 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@yo2trader539 Xiongnu were Proto-Turkic the Donghu were Proto-Mongolic. Both had intermarriage, with Chinese and each other. Modun Chanyu defeated the Donghu and absorbed them if I can remember correctly.

    • @EchoVortex713
      @EchoVortex713 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@salvatorenostrade3331There isn’t any specific point to prove that Xiongnu was Turkic

  • @khostsogt-fv3kp
    @khostsogt-fv3kp ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Монгол Халимаг Буриад Тува Өвөр Монгол

  • @tasumaprod100
    @tasumaprod100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Can you do one on the mandinka language or Krio from Sierra Leone or Temne.

    • @ilovelanguages0124
      @ilovelanguages0124  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I need a volunteer. :D

    • @RandomBestEdits
      @RandomBestEdits 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ilovelanguages0124 can u do Xiong I please I am ur number one fan

  • @styleofcommenting
    @styleofcommenting 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    This language sounds more turkish than turkish itself

    • @riza-2396
      @riza-2396 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Because Turkish it self is not really soo Turkic

    • @riza-2396
      @riza-2396 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      The origin of the earliest Turkish monarchs are Armenian servants ruled by real Turk, and then these Armenian influenced by Turkic language invaded Eastern Rome/Greece, now the majority of modern Turkish people after Ottoman empire are mostly white Greek people and ancient Armenian (Middle East white people), while real Turk(already had extinction before modern era) are the most common kind of Asian people like Mongol.

    • @riza-2396
      @riza-2396 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Ironically, these Armenians believing them self as Turkic massacred Armenians, their own people.

    • @alkarisi2585
      @alkarisi2585 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@riza-2396 Meanwhile 84% of Turkish is Turkic.

    • @barguttobed
      @barguttobed ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's Mongolic, the way does it sounds doesnt matter + its reconstruction i dont think that it sounded like this. All thing is matter that structure and vocabulary of this language show that its definitely Mongolic

  • @chunguskhan912
    @chunguskhan912 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Xianbei: aqa(brother) / / / Turkish: ağa(brother)
    Xianbei: baç(patron) / / / Turkish: baş(head, leader)
    Xianbei: bor(grey) / / / Turkish: boz(grey)
    Xianbei: tağ(land) / / / Turkish: dağ(mountain)

  • @batujack2784
    @batujack2784 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    There are very few information on Xianbei language. Two inscriptions belong to the Proto-Turkic.
    Proto-Turkic sounds closer to Proto-mongolic. Therefore, the ancient Turkic people were closer to Mongolians instead of Central Asian and Turkeys from the genetic perspective(Except for Kazakh/Tuvas).

    • @devrimdalgas5953
      @devrimdalgas5953 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      No, the words I present in the first part of the video are reconstructed basing on the Chinese transliteration during 3-6 century

    • @Orjinadam1189
      @Orjinadam1189 ปีที่แล้ว

      your turk ?

    • @salvatorenostrade3331
      @salvatorenostrade3331 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thats probably not entirely true. Kipchaks and Cumans (Present day Qazaqstan and Kyrgyzstan) can trace their origins all the way back to the yellow river basin in Eastern Asia. Mongolians originate from Inner Mongolia ironically (I know I know) and Turks especially ancient ones were from Manchuria and Mongolia/Siberia. It was only with Mongolian expansion and the hostilities between Kipchaks and Uyghurs + Mongols became unbearable is when the Kipchaks left for Central Asia nd consequently kicked out the Oghuz turks to Anatolia and Western Asia.

    • @salvatorenostrade3331
      @salvatorenostrade3331 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Most Kyrgyz are an accurate depiction of how Turkic people would havr looked long ago.

    • @salvatorenostrade3331
      @salvatorenostrade3331 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe with a bit of Chinese blood due to Yenesei Kyrgyz intermarrying with Tang dynasty.

  • @phnumsamkos1600
    @phnumsamkos1600 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Due to my knowledge of Mongolian, I can understand some Xianbei which is surreal.
    Миний Монгол хэл чадвар учраас, зарим Xianbei ойлгодог чаддаг байна, Xianbei хэл Моннол хэлын өвөг зэрэг гэж юм шиг байна.

  • @mngl_mjhd
    @mngl_mjhd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    As a Khalkha Mongol i understood 50%

    • @borgilbatbaatar4949
      @borgilbatbaatar4949 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not good it would be 70-80 percent to me

  • @fatihy.2853
    @fatihy.2853 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    As a Turkish we use 'aqa' (aga,abi,brother), 'altun' (altın, gold), 'min' (bin, 1000), 'qağtun' (hatun, woman), 'qağan' (Kağan, Khan) 'tağnar' ( dağ, dağlar, mountain)

  • @bulentbulut4965
    @bulentbulut4965 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    It's like Old Turkic between Old Mongolian

  • @henripentant1120
    @henripentant1120 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Cool is an understatement. Is there anything you haven’t covered yet?!?

  • @tonimontagna4281
    @tonimontagna4281 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Probably like this sounded also the Avar language. I read that the name mongol comes from the name of a khan of the ruanruan empire

  • @salihaydn9682
    @salihaydn9682 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Xianbei And Turkish
    Tümen - Tümen
    Altun - Altın
    Bor - boz(gray)
    Qağan - Kaan/kağan
    Qağtun - Kadın/hatun
    Tağ - Dağ(mountain)
    Min - Bin
    Aqa - Aga
    Eben - Çimen
    Mağtun - Hatun

  • @kadokadooo5542
    @kadokadooo5542 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Even hear, they talk about Niri Qagan, Qagan of the Turks. Also many turkic words.

  • @birdy0090
    @birdy0090 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So that's where jebe's name comes from. Commander of Genghis Khan army. And Names like temucin must be 'person who temu' even though I don't know what temu is.

  • @iamreal_NomadicianMongol
    @iamreal_NomadicianMongol 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Andy please do rouran next and xiongnu

    • @Orjinadam1189
      @Orjinadam1189 ปีที่แล้ว

      rouran and bumin khan 🐺🏹🦾🇹🇷

    • @K.Pershing
      @K.Pershing ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Orjinadam1189 the rouran are Mongols. There are no Chinese or other sources talking of the Turkmen at the time suggesting they either were of no Importance or still lived in Yakutai Siberia

    • @Str1ker793
      @Str1ker793 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Orjinadam1189 Turkish npc thinks that the rourans were Turkish 😂

    • @iamreal_NomadicianMongol
      @iamreal_NomadicianMongol ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@Orjinadam1189dude who said rouran is turkish

    • @iamreal_NomadicianMongol
      @iamreal_NomadicianMongol ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@Orjinadam1189rourans are xianbei descendant and u turks are just slave and xiongnu is mongolic because slab grave culture is mongolic its the makurs descendant even xiongnu words like tegri , tarqan, meheer, delu, nuruugun,niru,uul,arhad
      Even i dont want to even fight on history with turkic and mongol
      History and we are descendant of donghu to

  • @dariavushxerxes5309
    @dariavushxerxes5309 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Mongolian and turkish languages sound so same.

    • @HinesBno
      @HinesBno 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really?

    • @dakidaki5703
      @dakidaki5703 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not turkish
      Mongolian language
      Guhtureg not turkish
      Түрэг бол эртний Монгол аймаг

    • @tatar1881
      @tatar1881 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dakidaki5703 until Cengiz Han named your tribes mongols there wasnt anything as mongols you were bunch of yellow tribes worthless russian vassal

    • @Crxyzen1
      @Crxyzen1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@dakidaki5703copium

    • @jjj-qj8lu
      @jjj-qj8lu 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@dakidaki5703 not really. Quite the opposite. Turks were always the majority in the steppes. Mongols werent that populated. There are tens of different Turkic countries all around the world and there is just one Mongolia.
      Even under the genghis khans rule,many soldiers of the mongolian empire were Turks.

  • @A.Ylmaz-gr7ww
    @A.Ylmaz-gr7ww 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Türküm kelimelerin önemli bir kısmı harf değişimleriyle Türk dilinde bulunan kelimeler örneğin koyun anlamına gelen "kuraqa" Türk dilinde koyun yavrusu "Kuzu" R Z değişimi

  • @omneshomines
    @omneshomines 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    So, the oldest attested form of "qaghan", "qaghatun", "altun" etc. is Xianbei and it's thought Turkic and other Mongolic languages borrowed these words from Xianbei, right?

    • @TheLightlessMoon
      @TheLightlessMoon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @noble crow how can you be so sure?

    • @Crxyzen1
      @Crxyzen1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Xianbei is mostly Para-Mongolic. Their language has some Turkic loanwords. We don't really know those words' origin, we can't be sure.

    • @lastdance7082
      @lastdance7082 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, the words kağan, hatun, and Altın are of turkic origin, but turks and mongols lived with each other for so long, so its actually loan words of turkic to Mongolian

    • @aboba5995
      @aboba5995 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      1) Kagan is Mongolized Iranic title *hwa-kama- (self-ruler), the lexeme was in Sogdian language as xutkame-
      *hwá "self" < *swé "self"
      *káHmah "wish" < *kóh₂-mo-s "wish"
      2) Altun "red copper" can be a Turkic calque from Chinese 火銅 (literally: fiery copper/bronze), if the word *āl "red" is cognate to root *yal- "fire" (Turkish: alev "fire" from root *yal-)
      *tun ~ *tunç "bronze/copper" < 銅 [tūŋ]

    • @tatar1881
      @tatar1881 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@aboba5995 lol keep dreaming

  • @tommyanderson2785
    @tommyanderson2785 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I appreciate your work and content. Keep it up

  • @Crxyzen1
    @Crxyzen1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    miñ, tümen, altun, amğa, baç, bitig, bitigçin, bor, çarğuyçin (and the suffix -çin) are of Turkic origin.

  • @Khorasan_Turco
    @Khorasan_Turco ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It is very similar to old turkic language, I am half mongol
    I love mongol people❤️🇲🇳
    Hail to our cousins

  • @mert799
    @mert799 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Turks And Mongol Language wooww

  • @krusriyad8267
    @krusriyad8267 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you

  • @MarkAntony-l7s
    @MarkAntony-l7s ปีที่แล้ว +7

    As an Indian I understood exactly one word and that is bodhisattva 😂
    Love the language though

    • @marschshven
      @marschshven 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😅

  • @OtKerk
    @OtKerk 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    So sweet, simply an old dialect of our modern Mongolian languages. Amazing, given that the Xianbi people spoke it about 2000 years ago! They were part of The Hunnu/Xiongnu Empire and succeeded the latter. That means I am speaking indeed a "long-living", old language.

  • @xanshen9011
    @xanshen9011 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Xiongnu next?

    • @indo.iranian.Jat.007
      @indo.iranian.Jat.007 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bro:- can you tell about da Yuezhi tribe origin They are indo Iranian tribe? Hephthalite or Yuezhi are same/ different tribes? I belong to Jat's tribe y haplogroup L-m11 36% , R-m207 28%, Q-m242 15% (northern Pakistan and India)

    • @alichunrepeatable3459
      @alichunrepeatable3459 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@indo.iranian.Jat.007The Hephthalites and Yuezhi are Turkic peoples. The enemies of the Turks distorted the history of the Turks

  • @altay2233
    @altay2233 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Min (OldTurkic: Min)(Turkish: Bin).
    Tümen (OldTurkic: Tümen)(Turkish: Tümen, on bin).
    Altun (OldTurkic: Altun)(Turkish: Altın).
    Agyil (OldTurkic: Agıl{house of animals})(Turkish: Ağıl).
    Baç (OldTurkic: Baş)(Turkish: Baş{head, leader, first}).
    Bitig (OldTurkic: Bitig)(Turkish: Biti, Kitap).
    Bitigçin (OldTurkic: Bitigçi)(Turkish: Bitici, kitapçı).
    Bor (OldTurkic: Boz) (Turkish: Boz).
    Eben (OldTurkic: Çimgen)(Turkish(çim, çimen).
    Hirçe (OldTurkic: Eçü Apa)(Turkish: Amca).
    Mağa (OldTurkic: Baka{title:hard enough to break})(Turkish: Bağa{crustacean}.
    Pari (OldTurkic: Bark)(Turkish: Bark{house}, yapı).
    Qağan (OldTurkic: Qagan)(Turkish: Kağan).
    Qağtun (OldTurkic: Qatun)(Turkish: Kadın).
    Serbi (OldTurkic: Sarp{Hard})(Turkish: Sarp{hard place to pass}).
    Tağ (OldTurkic: Tag{mountain})(Turkish: Dağ).
    Tabgaç (Title of KaraKhaganete Khans).
    Toyğon (OldTurkic: Torgay)(Turkish: Toygar{lark}).
    Tümen (OldTurkic: Tümen{ten thousand, numerous)(Turkish: Tümen{big cluster, ten thousand troops}).
    Jiru (OldTurkic: Yukaru{above})(Turkish: yukarı).

  • @PCGameNerd917
    @PCGameNerd917 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So this is the language the huns probably spoke.

  • @ganaabat6389
    @ganaabat6389 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a Mongolian I can say that Xianbei are Mongllians.Not turckik

  • @orgilradnaabazar619
    @orgilradnaabazar619 หลายเดือนก่อน

    80%тай ойлгож байна.

  • @heliumboi8309
    @heliumboi8309 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As an khalkha mongol i understand 90%

    • @barguttobed
      @barguttobed ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes it’s just the guy pronounce it with weird accent but all the words are same

    • @heliumboi8309
      @heliumboi8309 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@barguttobed reader is turkish

    • @heliumboi8309
      @heliumboi8309 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@barguttobed if i read this all of mongol audience will understand this

    • @barguttobed
      @barguttobed ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@heliumboi8309 Yep and you totally right 👍🏼 Actually from reading in comments I found that the speaker is originally Chinese who learned Turkish, so that’s why he is forcing on Turkish accent to read this. Btw I’m sure Xianbei didn’t had that weird accent

    • @heliumboi8309
      @heliumboi8309 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@barguttobed well as my estimate this would have medieval mongolic accent

  • @watchmakerful
    @watchmakerful 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Sounds very Turkic, although word roots are not recognizable...

    • @MB-rb9tk
      @MB-rb9tk ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PimsleurTurkishLessons turktard

    • @barguttobed
      @barguttobed ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Doesnt matter its mongolic. If u spell modern mongolian with Turkish accent it will sound turkic too

    • @Paxia
      @Paxia ปีที่แล้ว

      @@barguttobed it’s para mongolic not mongolic.

    • @barguttobed
      @barguttobed ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Paxia lol it’s still Mongolic language family dumb

    • @tobiasit2190
      @tobiasit2190 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Paxia "it’s para mongolic not mongolic" brother, say the sentence you wrote again, but slower and really think about your logic.

  • @cudanmang_theog
    @cudanmang_theog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Tagbach descendants moved to Byzantine territory which are today called Serbia (Xianbei=Serbi)

    • @Orjinadam1189
      @Orjinadam1189 ปีที่แล้ว

      tabgach =turks 🤟

    • @Orjinadam1189
      @Orjinadam1189 ปีที่แล้ว

      @noble crow NOO TURK 🐺🐺🐺🐺🏹🏹🇹🇷🇰🇿🇰🇿😑🇹🇷🇰🇿🇹🇷

    • @Paxia
      @Paxia ปีที่แล้ว

      What? No.

    • @Orjinadam1189
      @Orjinadam1189 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@noble crow No, look at the Chinese sources, there are tabgaç Turkish communities if you accept the Mongols as Turks, if you join, there were no Mongols in the past, there were Turks in the Chinese source. 🐺🏹🇹🇷🐺🏹🇹🇷🐺🇹🇷👍👍👍

    • @miniioe
      @miniioe ปีที่แล้ว

      Wait what!?

  • @팀킬-w1q
    @팀킬-w1q 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    feels similar to Kazakh language

  • @Arkhai2001
    @Arkhai2001 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sure turkic person reading this words and sentences. If mongolic person read this sounds different.

  • @geniahalluci923
    @geniahalluci923 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very cool!

  • @emptyzerozero
    @emptyzerozero 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    mostly interesting that im volga tatar and i understand half of words

  • @Kurdnetew
    @Kurdnetew 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Türkçeye çok benziyor

    • @volkanozturkmen6245
      @volkanozturkmen6245 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Türk ve moğol devleti

    • @Crxyzen1
      @Crxyzen1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Çünkü bir sürü Türkçe alıntı kelime var ama dilin aslı para Moğolca

  • @JohnnyNakatomi
    @JohnnyNakatomi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please boss, make video about mongol language.

  • @Puffywinkle
    @Puffywinkle 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do Faroese/Greenlandic next?

  • @maraluciaduclosduclos7496
    @maraluciaduclosduclos7496 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brazil loves this people but this language is Impossible to understand.

  • @Rugged-Mongol
    @Rugged-Mongol 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    *We Mongols call these proto-Mongols as the Sümbe nation: ᠰᠦᠮᠪᠦ Сүмбэ*

  • @太守苏定交趾
    @太守苏定交趾 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This is really unexpected , many thanks to this channel !
    so it’s related to mongol language?

    • @lastdance7082
      @lastdance7082 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Xianbei is the ancestors of mongols

  • @mamba069
    @mamba069 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's like mongolian with bit of accent

  • @飛流直上三千尺哪個宅
    @飛流直上三千尺哪個宅 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What script did xianbei use in history?

    • @andrewmicheal5768
      @andrewmicheal5768 ปีที่แล้ว

      汉字啊 ,鲜卑人没有自己的文字 后来创制了自己的文字 使用范围比较小 在孝文帝改革之后就不怎么用了 看以后的考古了

  • @Munkhbayarkhavtgai
    @Munkhbayarkhavtgai 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think xianbei language is what the huns speak litterly.

  • @mcbaby706
    @mcbaby706 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Im mongolia and somehow i can fully understanding our ancestor language😂

  • @timurgurkan5729
    @timurgurkan5729 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Perfect

  • @normalkid5183
    @normalkid5183 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lol I understand every single word
    As an mongol

  • @MisticMan-yk7gn
    @MisticMan-yk7gn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Moghol language please

    • @Orjinadam1189
      @Orjinadam1189 ปีที่แล้ว

      no mongol yes turkic

    • @MisticMan-yk7gn
      @MisticMan-yk7gn 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@Orjinadam1189Not turkic yes mongolian

  • @Davlavi
    @Davlavi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    nice

  • @可爱包-c4v
    @可爱包-c4v 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    xianbei and 汉language
    土 = tu (land)
    笔 =bi (pen)
    新=sing (new)
    In fact,汉 people is most lovely for xianbei😊😊😊

  • @chinbatganhulugu9037
    @chinbatganhulugu9037 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    like mongolian language

    • @helengao6093
      @helengao6093 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They were related to the mongols

  • @middleeastrenwarriormen1017
    @middleeastrenwarriormen1017 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Xianbei ancestor of Da Shiwei,Donghu,Tatar and Khitan

  • @liran547
    @liran547 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    wow,xianbei is so much different then the xibe language, thats a surprise, it is so much so the father of turkic language

  • @KangAri99
    @KangAri99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Waiting for comment "as a Mongolian native speaker......"

  • @amormir8280
    @amormir8280 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No wonder there's a famous Serbian quote: From Serbia to Tokyo 😁😉

  • @MisticMan-yk7gn
    @MisticMan-yk7gn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Эн келн йир сәәхн !

  • @zhuangchuang31
    @zhuangchuang31 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a Turkish, I understand quite a few words.

    • @Crxyzen1
      @Crxyzen1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      miñ, tümen, altun, amğa, baç, bitig, bitigçin, bor, çarğuyçin (and the suffix -çin) are of Turkic origin.

  • @indramuhammad1942
    @indramuhammad1942 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    for the next video content, discuss the ancient languages ​​​​of Nanyuei and Baiyuei, these languages ​​have become extinct, possibly in the South China region 🙏
    Source :
    id.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanyue
    en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baiyue

    • @ToLeNam
      @ToLeNam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nanyue language would likely to be proto-Vietic or some Tai-Kadai language.

    • @indramuhammad1942
      @indramuhammad1942 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ToLeNam they austroasia and austronesia nation

    • @danielzhang1916
      @danielzhang1916 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      there's also Minyue, an ancient kingdom in what is now Fujian province in southern China, and was later annexed by the Han empire as they expanded, many Chinese people moved south and intermarried with the locals there

  • @redwarrior9100
    @redwarrior9100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is the source for the vocabulary part?

  • @Kalmyk-r08
    @Kalmyk-r08 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    100% PURE MONGOLIAN LANGUAGE !!! ❤

  • @nolinga6756
    @nolinga6756 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    İt is strange for me The words don't seem foreign to my ears, but As a Turkish feels like i understand worlds but same time i dont understand. The ending shape of words is like the endings in Turkics languages.(,den,tan,ten,çin,rçin,kin,tin ,ran,uğra,dü,gü,etc)

  • @ufcfan2018
    @ufcfan2018 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    aga and altyn turkic words!

    • @Crxyzen1
      @Crxyzen1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Many other words too. Min, amğa, bor, bitig, bitigçin etc.

    • @Munkhbayarkhavtgai
      @Munkhbayarkhavtgai 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Aga and altyn is used in mongolian too

    • @ufcfan2018
      @ufcfan2018 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Munkhbayarkhavtgai моңғолдар түркілерден сөздерді және дәстүрлерді ұрлаған славяндар сияқты 🤦🤦🤦

  • @volkanozturkmen6245
    @volkanozturkmen6245 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I understand most of them, there are many Turkish words🇹🇷

    • @Crxyzen1
      @Crxyzen1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nasıl most of them kanka, birkaç kelime anca vardır Türkçe. Çoğu Moğolca kelimeler

    • @Crxyzen1
      @Crxyzen1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tamam abarttım birkaç kelimeden fazlası var ama genel olarak Türkçe-Moğolca karışımı

  • @heaven.123
    @heaven.123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Xiangnu were the ancestors of turk while xiagbei are the ancestors of khitan and mongol. Turk and khitan were converted to Buddhism while tatar and mongol remain tengrist at that time.

    • @t3ngristtt
      @t3ngristtt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      dont lie xiongnu were a confederation of all following people. it contained everyone starting from mongolic, turkic, kyrgiz, and uighurs.

    • @aboba5995
      @aboba5995 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@t3ngristtt Yenisei Kyrgyz were conquered by Xioungu, but ok

    • @Paxia
      @Paxia ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@t3ngristtt kyrgyz and Uyghurs are literally all Turkic 😂

    • @Paxia
      @Paxia ปีที่แล้ว

      @@t3ngristtt all confederacies and empires were multi ethnic. But there’s literally no reason to deny the fact that the xiongnu was a Turkish empire. And I have the evidence that it was a Turkish empire lmao

    • @barguttobed
      @barguttobed ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Paxia They are para turkic😹 they don’t descends but parallel to Gokturks

  • @simbelmyne4817
    @simbelmyne4817 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So many turkic words. Almost like something between turkic and mongolic

  • @blackhouse55
    @blackhouse55 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Aramic please

  • @tawan36
    @tawan36 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Sounds very turkic

    • @xfxpositions
      @xfxpositions ปีที่แล้ว

      Dude how?

    • @kumalala5104
      @kumalala5104 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i'm mongol and half the words in this are in mongol language

    • @RandomBestEdits
      @RandomBestEdits 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Because turkic person is reading this

    • @Crxyzen1
      @Crxyzen1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Some words are Turkic origin but main words are Mongolic

  • @TheNera2010
    @TheNera2010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    I think "The Xianbei Language" is not just a proto-Mongolic language. It's between Turkic and Mongolic. Actually Turkic and Mongolic languages are close relatives. So, this language is in between.

    • @mothercoconuts3923
      @mothercoconuts3923 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      They're not related, but they've been in close contact for a long time so they converged

    • @phoenix2k99
      @phoenix2k99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Xianbei are Donghu (Mongol), Xiognu are Turks

    • @averagekartvelian122
      @averagekartvelian122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      many indoeuropean words.

    • @liran547
      @liran547 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      this is much earlier then turkic and mongolic, its their father~~

    • @BroadwayRonMexico
      @BroadwayRonMexico 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Turkic and Mongolic arent "genetically" (in the linguistic sense) related. No serious linguist still holds to the Altaic theory. The early forms of Turkic and Mongolic were essentially part of a sprachbund though, and that's the reason for the similarities

  • @seljukkaganat8588
    @seljukkaganat8588 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Proto mongolic has proto trukic influence

    • @barguttobed
      @barguttobed ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No you have proto-mongolic influence

    • @Str1ker793
      @Str1ker793 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@barguttobed don’t bother arguing with this retard bro, this guy is one of those Turkish nationalists think that everything was turkic. I’ve even seen him claim that the donghu,xianbei,Liao dynasty,Mongol empire were Turkic 😂

    • @Str1ker793
      @Str1ker793 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@barguttobed btw are you from Mongolia?

    • @barguttobed
      @barguttobed ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Str1ker793 Bro, i'm Buryad-mongol from Buryatia but i love all mongol people, e are one nation!

    • @Str1ker793
      @Str1ker793 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@barguttobed I love my buryat brothers. You guys truly have a special place in my heart.

  • @Turuuu41
    @Turuuu41 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very similar to mongolia

  • @deacudaniel1635
    @deacudaniel1635 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Whoa! One more historical minority language from China.Sound very interesting! I can spot some loanwods such as "min" from Chinese 万 ("maan" in Cantonese pronunciation) although here it means "thousand" not "ten thousand" like in Chinese, and "kir" I guess it's an Indo-European loanword since it sounds similar to English "kill".

  • @hbhurelbaatar
    @hbhurelbaatar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    it is Mongolia

  • @Qırımbalası12
    @Qırımbalası12 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Xiongnu is ancestors of Turkic people.
    Xiongbei is ancestors of Mongolic people.

    • @Qırımbalası12
      @Qırımbalası12 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I felt like I understood everything, but I just understood some words...😅😅

    • @Qırımbalası12
      @Qırımbalası12 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I definitely understood Tağbaç. Tağ maybe means mountain i think

  • @riki6983
    @riki6983 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It s like hungarian

    • @Paxia
      @Paxia ปีที่แล้ว

      @wratch it’s a joke. Because Hungarians came from asia

    • @helengao6093
      @helengao6093 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sounds like a mix of Arabic, Manchurian, and Mongolian