Hey healers, melee Dps player here! thanks for healing me when I stand in literally everything! Also let's go Meg!! Wooooo!! I'm just here to signal boost!
Honestly, in low content.. stand in everything cause it gets PRETTY boring healing in normal/heroic dungeons on the start of this xpac lol. Plus youll prob help newer healers learn how to handle the damage rather than experiencing it in high content and failing XD
Perfect mix between covering the basics of the spells but also the specifics. The detail shown the breakdown of mechanics like Yu'lon is so useful to see and skipped over so often in guides. Thanks for the effort
Played raid with the new build and it's just so much more enjoyable. The changes to gusts is absurdly good and makes the playstyle feel so much smoother.
amazing guide ty!. just coming back to wow as a semi newb, really loved M+ in shadowlands so im excited to heal with mistweaver in tww. i will be watching all your MW vids so i can learn, thanks!
Hey Meg, regarding talent choice - I see everyone is taking Lighter Than Air. Given that we have rolls, transcendence and tigers lust, is there really any need in taking it? Is it not worth dropping it for soothing mist, so that we have the option to have a quicker vivify cleave?
Since Gust of Mists plays a part in the rotation and overall healing during raid encounters would you opt for haste>mastery>crit>vers or stick more to crit after haste as a stat priority? This goes for the Rising sun kick build you displayed. I feel we are less mana hungry with the rising mist build altough it feels clunky when you need to triage heal because of the lack of soothing mist with their respective vivify and em insta casts.
This is so confusing :( am I supposed to take both Dancing Mists and Chi harmony? But don't they cancel each other out? How can I take Uplifting spirits, where would a get a point from?
Good day. Please tell me how much in % of what stats, and in what order should I collect them? What pre-raid - bis gear should I collect for the monk healer? I can't find this information anywhere =( You are the last hope...
Hey Meg, i know youi're not going to recommend something suboptimal, but is Master of Harmony / Ancient Teachings raid healing even semi-viable as of right now? it'd be super nice to have it as an option for something like heroic raid. Thanks!
@@Megasett Thanks! I also saw Jak is recommending Cell for player frames going into TWW. Do you have a preference or are you planning on doing a UI video?
@dasjtrain557 I currently use Vuhdo and don’t have a reason to swap yet but Cell has been highly recommended by a lot I do plan on doing a UI video at some point
I can't seem to find the link to the Renewing Mist counter weakaura, can someone please link it, I would greatly appreciate it. I couldn't find it on wago myself either :(
Hey MW players! I have a question regarding Yu'lon! @11:39, Meg suggests to cast 3/4 EM on the raid. Should I always keep that number in mind even if our raid group will be less than 20 (closer to 10 in fact) in your opinion? Thank you folks!
Hi! I love these guides, I have a question since I'm super new to monk, so we should be running ranged healing for raid and Chi-Ji for M+ right? I have been running Chi-Ji for every type of content 😂 so if ranged is more optimal then its good to know!!
We are not ranged in any PVE content, but currently our best raid celestial is Yu'lon and our best m+ celestial is Chi-ji. If you're not going to be doing early AoTC or CE then you can get away with Chi-ji in raid but I didn't include it in the guide since it's not our best option
Hi! I saw some people on the Monk Discord talking about how (for raid) the Tear of Morning ("ranged" build) might be stronger than the Rising Mist ("f̶u̶n̶" "melee" build). Personally, I hate the ToM build and got Fyrakk CE with it begrudgingly, but if it'll be meta I'm going to switch to like, Prevoker for a tier. What makes you think RM is going to be stronger than ToM? Have the developers said anything about favouring it? I'm not monitoring wowhead daily so I have no idea.
hi meg, i have a question about your uptime trackers. it's about the yulon and chi ji uptime bar, it doesn't show up when i summon and on your picture there is only a red ? icon? what are these triggers that have to be put in to get the uptime displayed as a bar like the others? : / Trigger 1 is Totem and Totem Name Chi-Ji, but unfortunately this is not displayed?
If your client isn’t in English you may need to change it to the translated version of whatever language you play in, I’m not sure what the totem # ID is off the top of my head and I won’t be home for a few more hours
Chi Harm and Lotus Infusion ended up being very close numerically and Chi Harm help with prio healing more Mending Prolif works very well with our new tier set
What is it about pushing a melee build when even now on the latest patch the caster build is doing better? The new tier set also works better with the Tear of morning build (RM->SM->EM->V->EM on new target with Harmony->V,..... Rising mist feels underpowered in comparison since they put a cap on Invigorating mist so having Renewing mist on 6+ targets brings barely anything of value (with Zen pulse being somewhat underwhelming). It looks much closer than in S3 and 4, but its healing profile doesn't look that useful for mythic raid.
Tear of Morning has been nerfed to the point where RM is more valuable (ToM is about 5% behind RM). You can say things “feel” however you want but in the end a lot of research & testing has gone into the guides and I work with the people in peaks to make sure I’m giving the best information.
Why do we start skipp shaohao's lessons. Is Mending proliferation is just better? And why healing elixir is not switch tallent since they move it in talent tree?
If you're not going to be doing early AoTC or CE then you can get away with Chi-ji in raid but I didn't include it in the guide since it's not our best option
@@Megasett it looks better on the logs but how useful is it? Look at the overhealing on us, the tiny absorb would be otherwise healed almost immediately anyway. We also lost Dampen harm, second defensive will be really useful on mythic progression.
Sorry, have to reject that Mistweaver is solely a melee healer spec. Maybe that's the way to go at Mythic level content? I've only ever been interested in castweaver vs fistweaver.
Sorry, but it's not an opinion. All of our offensive abilities are melee (which tie into our healing), and more importantly we are coded as a melee by the game and receive melee mechanics. The only reason we have the range on our casted/healing spells is because actual ranged players exist that need to be healed from our position in melee.
@Xaphiero: you can disagree all you want. Mistweaver is a melee heal spec (just as paladin by the way). And as Meg correctly stated - monk receives melee mechanics. So standing in the ranged camp is literally grieving your raid. Feel free to give that information to your raidleader and then asking him if it’s okay to stand in ranged. If you’re not in a really civilian casual guild, you’ll get a pretty quick and harsh „no“.
@@GoPlayMLP I mean I personally wouldn't go stand on ranged because of the melee mechanics. I would however stand near melee or at least in evoker range so i'm not stacked on either and the ranged can get to both. Monk should have the mobility to work with melee mechanic issues at evoker range right?
Hey healers, melee Dps player here! thanks for healing me when I stand in literally everything! Also let's go Meg!! Wooooo!! I'm just here to signal boost!
@@gunrad6165 Your healers have you on a list. It may not be written down, but I promise they all know your name.
Honestly, in low content.. stand in everything cause it gets PRETTY boring healing in normal/heroic dungeons on the start of this xpac lol. Plus youll prob help newer healers learn how to handle the damage rather than experiencing it in high content and failing XD
@@ant4hed stand in everything, these heroics have been ezpz for us healers
@@MrFiggenbaum😂I keep such a list.
Perfect mix between covering the basics of the spells but also the specifics. The detail shown the breakdown of mechanics like Yu'lon is so useful to see and skipped over so often in guides. Thanks for the effort
just found you randomly. sick channel. nice editing, music choice and you get to the point right away without all the bs talk like other youtubers.
Thank you!
Thanks over the years. You really helped with healing and VuDu.
Played raid with the new build and it's just so much more enjoyable. The changes to gusts is absurdly good and makes the playstyle feel so much smoother.
Your vuhdo guide was immensely helpful years ago and i always come here for the new xpac or patch mistweaver run down. Thanks :)
Among all of the MW stuff I was able to find on YT, your videos were by far the most helpful - thanks!
Love what you do, I'm definitely sending this to my little brother who is trying to rock mist for TWW
we love our meg, she always points out what is important
I'm returning after a long break. Last time I played was season 1 of DF. Thank you so much for this. Playing with Yu'lon is gonna be weird tho 😂
amazing guide ty!. just coming back to wow as a semi newb, really loved M+ in shadowlands so im excited to heal with mistweaver in tww. i will be watching all your MW vids so i can learn, thanks!
Been waiting on this one. Thanks for all you do.
Thanks a lot Meg! love your guides! one more expansion kick-healing!
Back to back, killin the guide game this week! Thanks!
Thank you monk Megasett, we do not deserve you 🙏🏻
Hey meg, any intention on doing a build guide for delves? Now that they are gonna be a pillar of content. Ty for your hard work :)
Loved the guide, ty, Meg!
Thanks a lot. This guide is very useful
Yay. Was waiting for this
shes so goated😭😭
Hey Meg, regarding talent choice - I see everyone is taking Lighter Than Air. Given that we have rolls, transcendence and tigers lust, is there really any need in taking it? Is it not worth dropping it for soothing mist, so that we have the option to have a quicker vivify cleave?
Since Gust of Mists plays a part in the rotation and overall healing during raid encounters would you opt for haste>mastery>crit>vers or stick more to crit after haste as a stat priority? This goes for the Rising sun kick build you displayed. I feel we are less mana hungry with the rising mist build altough it feels clunky when you need to triage heal because of the lack of soothing mist with their respective vivify and em insta casts.
Still Haste>crit>vers/mas, it's good but it's not better than crit
Ok great, good to know. Thanks a lot!
This is so confusing :( am I supposed to take both Dancing Mists and Chi harmony? But don't they cancel each other out? How can I take Uplifting spirits, where would a get a point from?
Just making sure - when you say “if you don’t take Soothing Mist, as we recommend.” You’re recommending we *dont* take it correct 😅
Correct! Sorry for the confusing wording
@@Megasett no no, I am new at this and decided to main MW for TWW. I’m the problem, it’s me 😂.
@@jackbagdadi6117 that’s why I’m here as well, so I’m also glad for the clarification as well.
Love You Meg the bestttt❤
Good day. Please tell me how much in % of what stats, and in what order should I collect them? What pre-raid - bis gear should I collect for the monk healer? I can't find this information anywhere =( You are the last hope...
Hey Meg, i know youi're not going to recommend something suboptimal, but is Master of Harmony / Ancient Teachings raid healing even semi-viable as of right now? it'd be super nice to have it as an option for something like heroic raid. Thanks!
Master of Harmony not at all, but if you’re just doing a later AOTC or CE you can run chiji and AT
@@Megasett Thanks! I also saw Jak is recommending Cell for player frames going into TWW. Do you have a preference or are you planning on doing a UI video?
@dasjtrain557 I currently use Vuhdo and don’t have a reason to swap yet but Cell has been highly recommended by a lot
I do plan on doing a UI video at some point
doesn't more stacks mean higher chance to reset Rising sun kick with Teachings of the Monestary?
I can't seem to find the link to the Renewing Mist counter weakaura, can someone please link it, I would greatly appreciate it. I couldn't find it on wago myself either :(
Hey MW players! I have a question regarding Yu'lon! @11:39, Meg suggests to cast 3/4 EM on the raid. Should I always keep that number in mind even if our raid group will be less than 20 (closer to 10 in fact) in your opinion? Thank you folks!
Hi! I love these guides, I have a question since I'm super new to monk, so we should be running ranged healing for raid and Chi-Ji for M+ right?
I have been running Chi-Ji for every type of content 😂 so if ranged is more optimal then its good to know!!
We are not ranged in any PVE content, but currently our best raid celestial is Yu'lon and our best m+ celestial is Chi-ji. If you're not going to be doing early AoTC or CE then you can get away with Chi-ji in raid but I didn't include it in the guide since it's not our best option
@@Megasett got it! Thanks!! Appreciate it 😊
Hi! I saw some people on the Monk Discord talking about how (for raid) the Tear of Morning ("ranged" build) might be stronger than the Rising Mist ("f̶u̶n̶" "melee" build).
Personally, I hate the ToM build and got Fyrakk CE with it begrudgingly, but if it'll be meta I'm going to switch to like, Prevoker for a tier.
What makes you think RM is going to be stronger than ToM? Have the developers said anything about favouring it? I'm not monitoring wowhead daily so I have no idea.
ToM got nerfed heavily coming into TWW so RM took over again
@@Megasett Let's gooooooooooo! Thanks!
hi meg, i have a question about your uptime trackers. it's about the yulon and chi ji uptime bar, it doesn't show up when i summon and on your picture there is only a red ? icon?
what are these triggers that have to be put in to get the uptime displayed as a bar like the others? : /
Trigger 1 is Totem and Totem Name Chi-Ji, but unfortunately this is not displayed?
If your client isn’t in English you may need to change it to the translated version of whatever language you play in, I’m not sure what the totem # ID is off the top of my head and I won’t be home for a few more hours
I'm having trouble understanding why we are giving up soothing mist. Someone can explain that real quick please ? :o
I wonder how you use the hero characteristics of Conduit of the Celestials.. it isnt work well....
Hi @Megasett, why taking Mending Proliferation over Shaohao's Lessons and Chi Harmony over Lotus Infusion ?
Chi Harm and Lotus Infusion ended up being very close numerically and Chi Harm help with prio healing more
Mending Prolif works very well with our new tier set
@@Megasett Thanks for the quick answer
thank you!
What is it about pushing a melee build when even now on the latest patch the caster build is doing better? The new tier set also works better with the Tear of morning build (RM->SM->EM->V->EM on new target with Harmony->V,..... Rising mist feels underpowered in comparison since they put a cap on Invigorating mist so having Renewing mist on 6+ targets brings barely anything of value (with Zen pulse being somewhat underwhelming). It looks much closer than in S3 and 4, but its healing profile doesn't look that useful for mythic raid.
Tear of Morning has been nerfed to the point where RM is more valuable (ToM is about 5% behind RM). You can say things “feel” however you want but in the end a lot of research & testing has gone into the guides and I work with the people in peaks to make sure I’m giving the best information.
@@Megasett logs are saying a different story though
Meg-weaver! Make it true!
Why do we start skipp shaohao's lessons. Is Mending proliferation is just better? And why healing elixir is not switch tallent since they move it in talent tree?
Do you keep the 1min cd on yulon ? Or you use the other talent ?
This is for Jade Bond but if you can't regularly get enough CDR you can run Gift
@@Megasett thanks dear,
Would‘ve loved to see a Chi Ji build, but I guess I‘m just old school.
If you're not going to be doing early AoTC or CE then you can get away with Chi-ji in raid but I didn't include it in the guide since it's not our best option
hiii Meg, hiii Chat
Do you ever use sthe stature?
If you take SooM you can, otherwise no since you can’t trigger it
Wait why dont we take shaohaos anymore?
Mending Proliferation is better now especially w the tier set
[Yu'lon's Grace] is nerfed so much it is almost useless, just use [Diffuse Magic] instead. It doesn't show on your logs, but it is much more useful.
Nope, it still adds up over the encounter and unless you specifically need Diffuse for the dispel or other potential 1 shot, YG is better
@@Megasett it looks better on the logs but how useful is it? Look at the overhealing on us, the tiny absorb would be otherwise healed almost immediately anyway. We also lost Dampen harm, second defensive will be really useful on mythic progression.
Sorry, have to reject that Mistweaver is solely a melee healer spec. Maybe that's the way to go at Mythic level content? I've only ever been interested in castweaver vs fistweaver.
Sorry, but it's not an opinion. All of our offensive abilities are melee (which tie into our healing), and more importantly we are coded as a melee by the game and receive melee mechanics. The only reason we have the range on our casted/healing spells is because actual ranged players exist that need to be healed from our position in melee.
@Xaphiero: you can disagree all you want. Mistweaver is a melee heal spec (just as paladin by the way). And as Meg correctly stated - monk receives melee mechanics. So standing in the ranged camp is literally grieving your raid. Feel free to give that information to your raidleader and then asking him if it’s okay to stand in ranged. If you’re not in a really civilian casual guild, you’ll get a pretty quick and harsh „no“.
@@GoPlayMLP I mean I personally wouldn't go stand on ranged because of the melee mechanics. I would however stand near melee or at least in evoker range so i'm not stacked on either and the ranged can get to both. Monk should have the mobility to work with melee mechanic issues at evoker range right?