Ever since HO's first face reveal, it's felt like his original floating brain Avatar was somehow more relatable than the dystopian xenomorphic egg he'd _be transitioning_ towards
“I felt the need to tell my boss I’m a Mario speed runner” just gave me flashbacks to the one guy who made sure that his twitch name was on his work name tag.
@@thecompareablezombie Among isolated groups in which genetic mutations lead to a larger than normal intersex population yes, new terms describe that segment of the population.
@@thecompareablezombie why is the concept of XX and XY so hard for you people to understand. you people really have regressed. in the 80s/90s we knew that being a more feminine man didn't make you a girl and being a more masculine woman didn't make you a boy. but then suddenly you leftist regressives came along and told us, "no, no. stereotypes define your gender"
is islam a western idea? because they're a lot more interested in the differences between men and women than most of the west and have rigid behavioral standards for both sexes
@@terribleivan1475historically mostly its been things like women who are past child rearing age or men who have been castrated. Rarely, its more about a specific ceremonial religious concept.
Not really, that species of nut has been known of for a while. You're just not terminally online enough and have missed previous examples of this strange species.
The zoophilia problem is a real one, and I say that as a furry myself. Unfortunately the atmosphere of the furry fandom is extremely tolerating of deviancy, so when it does happen, its allowed to fester a lot longer and people get away with far more than they normally would, there have been many instances of discord servers being found to have people sharing doing these kinds of things to animals and even roadkill in one instance. Is this most furries? No, but the culture of the fandom is what allows it to happen dis proportionally.
If the fandom tells people how much they stand up to that and do nothing, why would you even trust them even if they are not into it. many things in the fandom will look better if there wasn't a holier than thou theme. they might not be into it but they konw who they are and support them, willingly. that's how they thrive so much.
before that actually... there was a massive Dramalanche in the USEnets over Lifestylers, a Chlorine bomb at a Con, and then the whole "burned furs" chapter
The way furries try to acquire the status of an oppressed minority is just flabbergasting. I wonder if, by using their logic, we can mark metalheads in the Soviet Union as an oppressed minority. Being a furry is not an inborn trait; what are they even talking about? At best, it's a hobby; you can join and leave the fandom any time you want (unless it operates as a sect).
1:26:43 I also love how furries try to find their roots in unrelated stuff like fables and mythology. It's like their fandom works like a magnet that attracts different types of lunatics to their ranks. They can't just admit the fact that they are nothing more but a fandom with weird habits, so they are desparate for historical justification of their existence. This fandom is unique in its own way: they are the first fandom in history to go full historical revisionist and resentimental route. Also, the way they frivolously interpret the word "anthropomorphism" as a walkie-talkie animal only, is just depressing. Do they realize that humans can anthropomorphize pretty much anything around them?
I mean, you don't have to try to find it, it's literally right there in old paintings and stories though...people have been drawing animal-human hybrids for a long time and it does have actual literary and thematic resonance. Your pattern recognition causes you to associate certain human traits with animals in order to recognize those traits better, and that's the whole point of anthropomorphism. Also claiming that furries 'only' interpret anthroporphism is 'funny animal' style characters is kind of oversimplification. This is the fandom that has made airplane dragons into a shared species ffs.
@@frustratedsquirrel *mean, you don't have to try to find it, it's literally right there in old paintings and stories though* I mean, what you just listed has nothing to do with the contemporary fandom, taking into consideration, that polymorphic images of human-animal entities like sphinxes and Egyptian deities are not even anthropomorphic animals to begin with. And again, anthropomorphism is a far broader term than your narrowed to animals interpretation. So, thanks for proving my point that furries make anachronisms to fulfill their resentimental desires for alt history. "This is the fandom that has made airplane *dragons* into a shared species ffs." Could you name me at least one anthropomorphic object that would not relate to any sort of animal? You realize it still reduces to animals with human bodyparts, right?
I have never met a self-identified "real furry" who didn't have: A. Multiple personality disorders. B. A desire to push their weird hobbies and interests into inappropriate social situations. (Ex: wearing their furstuit to a D&D game, suggesting furry groups in elementary schools, public "headpats" and general petting, etc.) C. A massive persecution complex. Bear in mind nearly any given individual furry (outside of the most delusional and extreme cases) will acknowledge that the things that give furries a bad name and spawn the negative stereotypes about the furry Fandom DO HAPPEN, but "they're a minority of the fandom" and "that ain't me bro" and "real furries condemn the bestiality/kiddy diddling/public orgies." Every time I meet a furry I try not to judge them by their hobby, but 100% of every furry I've ever been personally acquainted with has fit all of these descriptions and more without fail or exception. My distaste for and prejudice against furries is justified every single time I meet a furry.
@jeremychicken3339 self awareness helps. I'm always relieved when I see self identified furries WITHOUT their fursona plastered on all their socials and avatars.
@@SilentHellVG Yeah, my main sona (Creirim Silverpaw) also has his own lore that is way more interesting than your generic furry, since he's married to the leader of a Type 4 Civilization called: "The Universal Empire" and is often caught up with political matters on intergalactic scales.
@@jeremychicken3339 dunno. I've never met one of you. Or perhaps I have, but because they don't broadcast their furry interests like vegans at cyclist convention I never knew they were furries. I'm not saying I'm prejudiced and therefore no good furries exist, I'm saying I'm prejudiced because I've met dozens of furries and not ansingle one of them wasn't cringe af and/or psychotic. So nothing personal if that doesn't describe you.
@@iller3 so are you saying that we had too many autists and we gave them sonic as a way to keep them satiated then we had to create thd bluey hole to keep them contained?
He’s using “gamers are the most oppressed group” methodology, unironically, but replacing it with “furries” lol. At least people are actually joking when they say it about gamers.
They were in 2016 but it's clear by 2018 that people stopped thinking the meme was a joke. This clapped seal video is effectively a sequel of furries making this joke a few years prior. Like gamers are the most hated minority, you give any meme about self victimizing a few years and it becomes a horrifying reality.
@@DemiSupremi I wanna see a video on how furries ruined their reputation so hard. Animals and Anthro Animals have always been at the top of entertainment even when people hated furries. It's dumb to see them act like they were hated out of random and people hated anthro animals when the whole world still thrived on them. It's like they are incapable of registering what they did and why peopel didn't want to be around them.
@@zeosummers3984 Nothing really happened. Furries are just the new hotness for easy hate. Most people couldn't care less now. Its gotten to the point libsoftiktok gets consistently ratioed when she talks about furries or trans people who aren't doing anything wrong. A few years back those same tweets would have a gorillion likes regardless of if the person was doing anything wrong. We're more accepted than we've ever been. Same with how gamers are the majority of people now. What was I once a niche hobby now has just over 50% of the population engage with regularly. Weebs are also a large minority now. Furries are smaller but even then not by much.
Seems like a stretch. Furries are people. Would you have the same reaction if someone said “19 gays were hospitalized” instead of “19 people” or “19 gay people?” Maybe he wanted to specify, because “furry people” is kind of awkward in a lingual sense. Not agreeing with him, just pointing out how odd your point is.
@@mylastaccountgotdeletedtha6936 I mean, he basically classifies furries as some kind of persecuted minority that deserves it's own special status. So I don't think it's untrue that he puts a lot of emphasis on furry being some "super special important" part of their character. But I get what you mean. Also, using a real-world example, it would be weird to hear on the news "19 gays were murdered at a bar" as opposed to "19 people" or even "19 gay people were murdered in an attack". Unless targeted for that specific reason (in that case it was), aspects outside age/race/sex aren't relevant and it can get detailed for arbitrary reasons. "12 gamers and 5 weeaboos were assaulted at Gamescom". People would agree that sounds dumb and there's no reason to say. Who you have sex/attracted with or what your interests are is the same thing. Like, if a random crowd in the mall was attacked, do reporters need to ask each one which political party they associate with? "12 republicans and 15 demorats were attacked in a local mall", makes it sound like someone stormed into congress, lol.
@@mrshmuga9 right. I suppose if we were to consider how some people do target furries because they’re furries, I could kinda understand why he’d think that, but judging from the comments, the rest of his reasoning is really stupid.
A lot of this comes down to "Why are you telling random people completely unimportant information of yourself" Now if somehow you discover your boss or coworker is a furry or whatever then sure bring up like interests, but under what situation you just go "So yeah, that meeting was hell, by the way im a furry" That completely unimportant and inappropriate. Much like saying "Hi my name is faraday and im a Dom/Sub" Don't bring up your personal interest or kinks unsolicited. Nobody needs to know that information about you. This is just another case of narcissism. Me Me Me everyone gotta know all about Me and accept Me and what i enjoy.
On the other hand, my brother announced to my work that I was a furry. The few that care about that are a gay coworker making raunchy werewolf jokes after he discovered it and a former boss that really wanted me to wear a mascot costume outside of the store and wave a sign around. Nowadays it's the gay guy that mentions it to coworkers. 6 - 7 months I get asked the question "are you a furry?"
When I discover my co workers are furries, I just avoid them. I don't need to know anymore about this person nor do I need to associate with them. Furries who feel other people have to know about or other being furries, on average are weird. For some reason furries don't get they are tying themselves to a strange fandom, with a load of baggage. Of course people are not going to comfortable and, yes, I rather just not know. So I don't have to think about all the weird furry stuff.
What's fascinating about the supposed suicide rate, is that we have seen a massive spike in mental illness amongst the new generations of people, especially in America. What I would love to ask is something like this: If we assume that the suicide rate is because of a mental illness, and we work to eradicate the mental illness to save them, wouldn't that mean less trans people and less furries exist in total, as the often underlying mental issues that correlate to an increased likelihood of being trans or a furry is reduced?
nah, plenty of furries are pretty sane people who just like getting freaky in bed. If anything I think it would just cause the fandom to return to its earlier days of being more reserved and less focused on identity politics and as a furry, personally I'd welcome that.
Your argument relies on the idea that the correlation is fixed, which is absolute nonsense. For example, if 6% of people in the US report poor mental health, and later the population reporting such is halved, the correlation is probably no longer 6%. Because that'd mean 160 million US citizens died. The much more rational interpretation is that the correlation is different, such as being around 3% now (though this too is extrapolation without another statistic). Sure, very likely there are people who wouldn't be furries if not for mental illnesses, but the correlation is a worthless univariate model that does little more than hint at the intersection of particular instances of populations with extreme characteristics, that being lgbt and furries.
8:45 he shows 2 spirit on the screen and is like "gender non conforming people have always existed through history..... 2 SPIRIT WAS INVENTED IN THE 1990S!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣
The only person I've ever heard identify as 2 spirit was a lolcow by the name of Tommy (tooter) Wasserburg, he was an old hippy guy who ran a TH-cam channel. I have no idea what he is doing now days, he started doing the trans/2 spirit before it became popular.
If we want to go the etymology route, fur-cigarette comes from 4chan terminology, where everyone is a "blank"-cigarette. Furries happening to be overwhelmingly cigarettes was just a happy coincidence.
It's weird for someone in this segment of interest to be making an etymology argument considering how antonymically the special identity group people like to use prefixes like "pan", "a", "allo", etc. Seriously, I spoke with someone who insisted that asexuality is a spectrum opposite allosexuality rather than just being what it means, no sexuality/interest. The person put demi-sexuality on the "asexual spectrum". People are so stupid.
What's that bro? A Politician defamed a group you see yourself as a part of? Damn, so sad to hear that happened to you literally once. Literally the Furry Holocaust.
Should conservatives also be a protected class that you get in trouble for criticizing or mocking? "No, because they chose to be conservative; they can stop at any time"? Ok, cool, good chat.
I think neither group are mutually exclusive nor should be attacked for simply being a furry/conservative. Of course, both have vile people that the majority of the group rightfully wants dead, so there’s yet another similarity. Actually, being a furry is a lot closer to a political or religious identity than a minority status. It isn’t a political status, it’s just very similar.
I think it comes down to social media and "victimhood mentality". A lot of people have seen being a victim somehow gets you more fame and power within the social media sphere and because of that they go "ooh I want some of that for myself!" I watched the video not long after it was released and I felt like it was just asinine. He's comparing furries to actual in real life minorities? We can technically call a lot of groups of people minorities. but like, my brother in christ.. it's a fandom focused on anthropomorphic animals. You don't have to disclose that like of yours to anyone. The amount that disclosed that fact to their bosses were way too high... There's a right time and a right place for everything - Telling your boss such ain't really it. It's like trying to argue Weebs is a minority and as such requires special protection and accommodations. The video just felt unhinged. And heck, drama is incredibly popular - Not just within the fandom, so it makes sense that he has created a lot of videos on the worst individuals within the fandom. It gives a lot of clicks. It does make that video in particular quite ironic however. (not every furry is on board with what he says, hope that is obvious lol)
It's a clusterfuck for sure but gish galloping is only really a thing in debates, where your time is finite and you have to think on your feet in the moment. It's not his fault I subject myself to the conditions I do for sport/entertainment.
That kitty litter box thing wasn't a rumor. I work part time as an assistant MMA coach and one of my students spoke to me a while back expressing concern over it. It was the last thing I expected to hear there. Kids shouldn't have to worry about that crap but here we are. Edit for grammar.
If I had a nickel for every time a furry claimed or implied ancient history or humanized animal characters in fairy tales mean they're a minority that stems back to ancient enlightened "furries" I'd be more wealthy than any suspiciously wealthy furry asking for art drawn of their character.
I really do think these essay videos are designed to be filled with as much conflicting and useless information so people can walk away agreeing with whatever points resonated with them like a rorschach test.
he writes like he's struggling to pad out a minimum word count essay and misusing words, so he's developmentally still a teen regardless of how many years he's been alive
We’ll sorta I guess, in a few months ago I actually watch a video him talking about that Bluey Knockoff from the Daily Wire. And he said he was 17, I don’t know if his birthday pass or not but I can tell he still feels like a kid after watching this video.
He thinks furries are a marginalized minority that deserve and need the status of a protected group under the law. But is also concerned about the optics of using that word since more established minority groups might consider it stolen valor. so TL;DR for this meandering tirade of a video is that he wants disproportionate consideration and accommodation for furries. While understanding that there is stiff competition for such status. So he is prepared to accept a lower tier in the hierarchy and show deference to OG minorities. What a shitty way of looking at things. "I have agoraphobia, so I must insist that anywhere I want to go be officially considered part of my house". Just interact with people who arn't furries without expecting them to understand your esoteric perspectives, or accept that your inability to function outside of them is entirely your responsibility. For as long as you are unwilling to take off the mask. He reminds me of the south park episode where Tom Cruise and company want Mohammeds power of not being made fun of. It's that misguided. If your fursonna is something you get fun out and can enjoy with other people who are into that stuff, more power to you. If you have spent too long navel gazing at it, making it the cornerstone of your identity and self esteem... So long and to such an extreme in fact that other peoples irreverence of it risks seriously harming you? That's just irresponsible and unhealthy. The rest of the world is more entitled to expecting a bit of self awareness from YOU, than you are to major accommodations being made for your self inflicted disability. Offering deference to the groups that purport to be even more thin skinned than you only makes it worse.
He's ignoring literally every furry convention that's ever happened. I've not seen a single advertised convention by them that didn't go horribly wrong for "furry reasons". The one where people blacked out from heatstroke without food was the best case scenario. I'd ignore that too if I was lying, there's no way around that.
The first thing I think of was that hotel incident, where the furries were actively destroying the place and left drugs and garbage everywhere. They were so bad that the hotel manager permanently banned furry conventions, then contacted every other hotel in the whole state to avoid hosting them. Give them an inch and they'll take three miles.
The first thing I think of was that hotel incident, where the furries were actively destroying the place and left garbage everywhere. They were so bad that the hotel manager permanently banned all furry conventions, then contacted every other hotel in the whole state to avoid hosting them. Give them an inch and they'll take three miles.
The first thing I think of was that hotel incident, where the furries were actively destroying the place and left drugs and garbage everywhere. They were so bad that the hotel manager permanently banned any kind of furry conventions, then contacted every other hotel in the whole state to avoid hosting them. Give them an inch and they'll take three miles.
"simply living (to spite the people who don't like the furry fandom) is enough" gonna bet that he doesn't think that way about the "bad" parts of the fandom.
7:22 And shockingly all these independant culture came to the same concussion of women being care givers and men being warriors. I bet this guy is the type to look at how many ancient culture built pyramids and thinks 'aliens' or an advance human civilization.
honestly since the only reason for wanting minority status is to confer some kind of monetary or social benefit, I'm an accelerationist on this. furries can call themselves a minority as long as they never forget that GAMERS 👏 ARE 👏 THE 👏 MOST 👏 OPPRESSED👏 MINORITY 👏 GROUP 👏👏👏
Yes, that's what I'm going through - and I get extreme strain and disorientation if I look at things that are too busy or if I look at 3d games with free cam. You find anything to help?
The guys inner fascist authoritarian cannot fathom politicians are people and they are prone to be just as wrong as anyone else. " HOW!? HOW CAN THIS BE!? THEY ARE THE CHOSEN AUTHORITIES! AUTHORITIES ARE IDEALS! THIS CANNOT BE!"
Yeah man, towards the end, his goose stepping (no pun intended) really came spilling out. Where I was just annoyed with him at first, I came to see him as my enemy with some of this ish coming out of his noise hole.
I really want to believe that most of the people in the furry community are not that stupid and know that what they are doing in their spaces make the general public uneasy.
That's probably why they do it. The attention it brings. Yet if it were accepted like they supposedly want, then no attention would be brought to them anymore. Then they'll just keep trying to push boundaries further..
He thinks minority signifies status and isnt that a dead giveaway that we need to cut down on minority priviledges. Buddy, rapists are a minority. Its just a term that defines something as smaller to relation to some bigger group or thing. A slice of cake is a minor piece of the whole cake...
I'm a furry. Honestly furries have a negative reputation for good reason. It isn't just blind hate. Porn is nearly all of the art & where most of the money is. Fursuiti makers coming close behind. Though fursuit sex isn't common. There are some incredibly disturbing fetishes within the community. Such as cub, inflation & vore. Its also pretty common fur furries to be drama prone & in general unstable. I love furry & I'm pretty open about it. But oh boy is the community a pit. Also yeah. A fair few furries will pass out in their suits during the warmer months. Especially if they're new to it. Poodleing is the best way to go imo (not using a torso section. So just head, gloves, boots & tail). Gives your body more room to breathe. He has a point with the LGBT thing. There are a LOT of gay & trans people in the furry community. To the point that they VASTLY outnumber heterosexuals like myself. There are people who hate furries simply because they hate the LGBT. Though I wouldn't say furries fall under the LGBT, & more that a lot of furries ARE LGBT.
There also seems to be a weird trend of them attacking other peoples' sexual interests. It's pretty common sight to see a furry invade monster girl spaces to complain about how our art is lazy because "it's just a human", but there's also the trend/joke about how when you get prudes trashing you on Twitter, check their likes and they're always a furry. Feels like a large chunk of them are just desperate to find another group that they can feel that they're better than
@@SoverineSR That used to be a joke. Ever see the old "Not furry, 25% furry, 50% furry, Dangerously Furry, YOU SICK BASTARD" meme? Where Not furry is just a girl with cat ears & sick bastard is a literal cat. I've joked about it myself with friends when seeing basic cat girls. Jokingly calling it "cowardly". But the idea of people doing that without irony is beyond stupid. But sadly not surprising. With how many of the LGBT are in the furry community. Kink has ended up being a giant element of furry for the majority. As it is with a large part of the pride marching type of LGBT person. Makes sense. They where historically discriminated against & outright attacked for being who they are. So they had to repress themselves. When they could finally express themselves, like a rubber band being held back, they sprung too far into the opposite direction. & over time high levels of sexual expression became just part of the LGBT community, which also influenced furry. Spend too much time around that & it can become all you are. When you're highly sexual all the time, people who have more going on than just horniness are going to be prudes to you.
Furries shouldn't be part of the LGBT. Not all gay people are furries and not all furries are gay either. As an L, I just want to be treated normally and fairly. Furries are drama magnets.
The ONLY way furries can make the argument that being a furry is not a choice is if they agree cede the argument that being a furry is, by definition, either a sexual indentity or a handicap. Because it’s certainly not a race, sex, or nationality. So you either have to accept that it is a sexuality - and therefore that people are not wrong to think you’re closeted z-philes. Or you have to accept that it is a physical or mental handicap. As far as I can think of, those are the only 5 things that are considered immutable and inherent aspects of a person. If even religion is considered a choice, despite people often having significant potential familial, community and social ties based on their religious identity, then that’s really the only leg they have to stand on.
I guess technically veteran status for people who were drafted is also not really a choice, but you probably don’t want people to start asking questions about whether you’re forcibly press-ganging people into being furries.
religion used to be the go-to for social movements who wanted the "don't think I'm weird/don't impede me" pass. there have been some nascent religions like Kopimi that basically exist to legitimize piracy, for example
Do you think guys like this have gone to university or do they sit in a discord server, sharing excerpts from papers that suit their biases and have cobbled together a messy jumble of of ideas. I'm not sure which answer would be worse.
The instances of furries in schools that I've seen have been protests by actual students claiming things happened. Doesn't mean they happened, but you have kids in schools saying that these things happened and obviously the school directors do not want that kind of publicity.
My favorite part of every video essay is when they cite a complete rando because their high school teacher said they needed to cite at least 5 sources before declaring the sky to be blue.
Doesn’t add up. That includes mickeys mouse, bluey and a shit ton of kids cartoons. Kids should not be going to furry events. This is something a lot more adult and sexual. Furry is simply a fetish
@@DarkKnightCuron Mostly a way to troll left-wing furries. They created an entire enemy group and motivation from nothing but people quote tweeting them with the phrase "This is why we need #AltFurry" That bonfire of retardation did lead to the creation of a few right-wing furry groups, though.
This is just wild. If the requirement for minority or protected class works out this way being what you like being disliked by a bunch of other people when you make it public this is going to open the door to them running with their “MAPs” should be okay too propaganda. That’s my prediction. Edit: Nice, came in near the end there with the PDF logic. Nailed it - I called that like 20 minutes in. Also I find it interesting that he keeps referring to it as the fandom and wants to consider it a minority. That’s gotta be madness. What about non-practicing fans of human taxidermy…they have to be a small enough group to be a minority and they would definitely get hate. Should they be a minority?
8:24 And throughout history there's been many, many reasons given for why the sky cries. Does that mean we have to start praying to the god of harvest or else the rain will stop?
1:11:30 5 million furries? That's a bit of a generous number given the time frame, don't you think? Besides, if there were that many furries you would be able to see their shadows from aerial photographs of furry conventions. So 5 million furries? I don't buy it.
30:00 I do lightsaber choreography and perform for people, I'm still hesitant to just tell people that I do something so dorky. It's impressive 1/4 of furries feel comfortable telling their bosses about it given the level of kink associated with it.
One angle that may or may not be tackled: The youtube video Furries l Down the rabbit hole By Fredrik Knudsen, he makes video rarely The origin of furries were calling them funny animals, because humans were too damn serious during the 40s and 50s. There is a series called down the Rabbit Hole which mentions this, which i paraphrased. While Fritz the cat is mentioned among other things, and how the 80s had prank callers making things up to shut down the conventions.
you can BE a furry and you can BE a furry who is also a minority...but furries as a whole are not the same as being an ethnic group or whatever. It's a cool little underground club for degenerates who like drawing sexy animal-people for fun. It's supposed to be something you put on when you're at home on the internet and then take off when you go to work or school or whatever. People who try to force it into being something more than that are taking it too far. Being a furry shouldn't be something you openly talk about with normies, the taboo is supposed to be part of the appeal. " That said, the furry fandom is currently also being invaded by moralists and cancel pigs, so there's a big schism between old-school furries who like being edgy and pushing buttons and know how to conduct themselves otherwise, and weird sexless new-age furitans who want to make it into a kid-friendly space and cancel anyone who's drawing what they deem to be problematic art while also being absolute weirdos irl because they've deluded themselves into thinking that wearing a fursuit in polite society is acceptable and innocuous and that the fandom was never a spicy BDSM club to begin with... Honestly as someone who falls into the former camp, it's so annoying that I've decided to not even bother with furry social media anymore. It's just not worth the brain rot.
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Glad you have your safety goggles. Can't be too careful with these furries.
A prudent step when dealing with infohazards!
Now this is podracing
Ever since HO's first face reveal, it's felt like his original floating brain Avatar was somehow more relatable than the dystopian xenomorphic egg he'd _be transitioning_ towards
🥒💦💦
“I felt the need to tell my boss I’m a Mario speed runner” just gave me flashbacks to the one guy who made sure that his twitch name was on his work name tag.
The furry cries out as it strikes itself.
This so stupid yet so funny.
"Male and female is just a western idea!"
No it isn't. Lie.
Indeed there have been more in history.
@@thecompareablezombie Among isolated groups in which genetic mutations lead to a larger than normal intersex population yes, new terms describe that segment of the population.
@@thecompareablezombie why is the concept of XX and XY so hard for you people to understand.
you people really have regressed. in the 80s/90s we knew that being a more feminine man didn't make you a girl and being a more masculine woman didn't make you a boy.
but then suddenly you leftist regressives came along and told us, "no, no. stereotypes define your gender"
is islam a western idea? because they're a lot more interested in the differences between men and women than most of the west and have rigid behavioral standards for both sexes
@@terribleivan1475historically mostly its been things like women who are past child rearing age or men who have been castrated. Rarely, its more about a specific ceremonial religious concept.
He describes minority status like a promotion
for an outcast group of weirdo hobbyists, becoming a protected minority would legitimately be an upgrade
WHERE ARE YOU HIDING THE ARTISAN PEPPERONI?! I NEED MY FIX PAT!
It's how their minds operate. It's a card.
Though hard to consider something a hobby as a "minority."
This guy thinks male and female are western ideas? Did we just discover a new species of conspiracy theorist?
Not really, that species of nut has been known of for a while. You're just not terminally online enough and have missed previous examples of this strange species.
No, there are thousands of these people.
Our ancestors understood that societies need to be exclusionary for exactly this reason.
@@The13thRoninwe should begin a new crusade
Harmful looks like a Half-Life 2 Stalker
Talks like G-man, too.
@@theschwag "Prepare yourself for...unforseen opinions...Mr FurreeMan"
@@emytzu Is "unfurrseen" valid
@@ryaltovyes, i just thought it would be too much 😂
He got the drip, the phones on too. Don't discount that
The zoophilia problem is a real one, and I say that as a furry myself. Unfortunately the atmosphere of the furry fandom is extremely tolerating of deviancy, so when it does happen, its allowed to fester a lot longer and people get away with far more than they normally would, there have been many instances of discord servers being found to have people sharing doing these kinds of things to animals and even roadkill in one instance. Is this most furries? No, but the culture of the fandom is what allows it to happen dis proportionally.
If the fandom tells people how much they stand up to that and do nothing, why would you even trust them even if they are not into it. many things in the fandom will look better if there wasn't a holier than thou theme. they might not be into it but they konw who they are and support them, willingly. that's how they thrive so much.
This isn’t new, furries have been saying the same shit since the early 2000s.
its getting old, I liked it when furries were niche and nobody knew about it.
before that actually... there was a massive Dramalanche in the USEnets over Lifestylers, a Chlorine bomb at a Con, and then the whole "burned furs" chapter
The difference is that in the 2000’s no one would celebrate you if you treated gender the same way furries treat species.
Old old Encyclopedia Dramatica did a good service cataloging this behavior back in the day.
@@Toactwithoutthinkingthe ladies of Lolcow were talking about the similarities between furries and trans stuff in one of their trans trends
The way furries try to acquire the status of an oppressed minority is just flabbergasting. I wonder if, by using their logic, we can mark metalheads in the Soviet Union as an oppressed minority. Being a furry is not an inborn trait; what are they even talking about? At best, it's a hobby; you can join and leave the fandom any time you want (unless it operates as a sect).
Sounds like the usual groomer behaviour
Didn't some UK law get clarified stating that goths count as minority?
They play the identity politics card, let them get what's coming to them for using said identity politics card.
I mean... yes to the soviet metalheads..?
They were quite literally being oppressed...
Most minorities are not based around inborn traits, though they like to pretend they are.
29:45 - "Why my parents should accept me harder..." - the video essay.
Cope.
Harder.
1:26:43
I also love how furries try to find their roots in unrelated stuff like fables and mythology. It's like their fandom works like a magnet that attracts different types of lunatics to their ranks. They can't just admit the fact that they are nothing more but a fandom with weird habits, so they are desparate for historical justification of their existence. This fandom is unique in its own way: they are the first fandom in history to go full historical revisionist and resentimental route.
Also, the way they frivolously interpret the word "anthropomorphism" as a walkie-talkie animal only, is just depressing. Do they realize that humans can anthropomorphize pretty much anything around them?
I mean, you don't have to try to find it, it's literally right there in old paintings and stories though...people have been drawing animal-human hybrids for a long time and it does have actual literary and thematic resonance. Your pattern recognition causes you to associate certain human traits with animals in order to recognize those traits better, and that's the whole point of anthropomorphism.
Also claiming that furries 'only' interpret anthroporphism is 'funny animal' style characters is kind of oversimplification. This is the fandom that has made airplane dragons into a shared species ffs.
@@frustratedsquirrel
*mean, you don't have to try to find it, it's literally right there in old paintings and stories though*
I mean, what you just listed has nothing to do with the contemporary fandom, taking into consideration, that polymorphic images of human-animal entities like sphinxes and Egyptian deities are not even anthropomorphic animals to begin with. And again, anthropomorphism is a far broader term than your narrowed to animals interpretation. So, thanks for proving my point that furries make anachronisms to fulfill their resentimental desires for alt history.
"This is the fandom that has made airplane *dragons* into a shared species ffs."
Could you name me at least one anthropomorphic object that would not relate to any sort of animal? You realize it still reduces to animals with human bodyparts, right?
Why people think making species is furry think, it existed before them@@ophois9265
Trans do the same thing
@@e.c.winner7252both fandoms a disproportionate amount of gooners compared to any other fandom, too!
I have never met a self-identified "real furry" who didn't have:
A. Multiple personality disorders.
B. A desire to push their weird hobbies and interests into inappropriate social situations. (Ex: wearing their furstuit to a D&D game, suggesting furry groups in elementary schools, public "headpats" and general petting, etc.)
C. A massive persecution complex.
Bear in mind nearly any given individual furry (outside of the most delusional and extreme cases) will acknowledge that the things that give furries a bad name and spawn the negative stereotypes about the furry Fandom DO HAPPEN, but "they're a minority of the fandom" and "that ain't me bro" and "real furries condemn the bestiality/kiddy diddling/public orgies."
Every time I meet a furry I try not to judge them by their hobby, but 100% of every furry I've ever been personally acquainted with has fit all of these descriptions and more without fail or exception.
My distaste for and prejudice against furries is justified every single time I meet a furry.
What do you think of lone wolf furries who ditched the fandom because they hate it (Like myself) are we more chill in your eyes?
@jeremychicken3339 self awareness helps. I'm always relieved when I see self identified furries WITHOUT their fursona plastered on all their socials and avatars.
@@SilentHellVG Yeah, my main sona (Creirim Silverpaw) also has his own lore that is way more interesting than your generic furry, since he's married to the leader of a Type 4 Civilization called: "The Universal Empire" and is often caught up with political matters on intergalactic scales.
@@jeremychicken3339 dunno. I've never met one of you.
Or perhaps I have, but because they don't broadcast their furry interests like vegans at cyclist convention I never knew they were furries.
I'm not saying I'm prejudiced and therefore no good furries exist, I'm saying I'm prejudiced because I've met dozens of furries and not ansingle one of them wasn't cringe af and/or psychotic.
So nothing personal if that doesn't describe you.
@@SilentHellVG How while my PFP ain't my sona, it is the flag of the Universal Empire tho...
"A powerful figure" so he is asking for the furrer?
Indeed. Lol I made a mouse sort of world War over an island made by their gods... human scientist, anyway I had a character called the furrer
fun facts about him are he was an artist, loved animals and was mentally ill
@@pikminologueraisin2139that certainly explains the photos I've seen of furries posing with the windmill of friendship flag.
Awolf Bitler
When "Born this way" means skinning your first teddy bear and crawling inside...
How many times do you think he's watched Gleipnir?
How many times do you think he molested the family dog?
That furry spent all of his time in english class doodling fursonas instead of paying attention to the workbook.
Oh no, he made a Bluey video. The Bluey hole deepens.
No wonder autism radar went off.
Is the Containment strategy failing? has the Sonic fandom really fallen off that hard??
@@iller3 so are you saying that we had too many autists and we gave them sonic as a way to keep them satiated then we had to create thd bluey hole to keep them contained?
He’s using “gamers are the most oppressed group” methodology, unironically, but replacing it with “furries” lol. At least people are actually joking when they say it about gamers.
They were in 2016 but it's clear by 2018 that people stopped thinking the meme was a joke. This clapped seal video is effectively a sequel of furries making this joke a few years prior. Like gamers are the most hated minority, you give any meme about self victimizing a few years and it becomes a horrifying reality.
@@DemiSupremi I wanna see a video on how furries ruined their reputation so hard. Animals and Anthro Animals have always been at the top of entertainment even when people hated furries. It's dumb to see them act like they were hated out of random and people hated anthro animals when the whole world still thrived on them. It's like they are incapable of registering what they did and why peopel didn't want to be around them.
@@zeosummers3984 Nothing really happened. Furries are just the new hotness for easy hate. Most people couldn't care less now. Its gotten to the point libsoftiktok gets consistently ratioed when she talks about furries or trans people who aren't doing anything wrong. A few years back those same tweets would have a gorillion likes regardless of if the person was doing anything wrong. We're more accepted than we've ever been. Same with how gamers are the majority of people now. What was I once a niche hobby now has just over 50% of the population engage with regularly. Weebs are also a large minority now. Furries are smaller but even then not by much.
25:42 “hospitalization of 19 furries”
“Furry” overtakes “person” in his mind…
Seems like a stretch.
Furries are people. Would you have the same reaction if someone said “19 gays were hospitalized” instead of “19 people” or “19 gay people?”
Maybe he wanted to specify, because “furry people” is kind of awkward in a lingual sense.
Not agreeing with him, just pointing out how odd your point is.
@@mylastaccountgotdeletedtha6936 Implying gays are...
@@mylastaccountgotdeletedtha6936 I mean, he basically classifies furries as some kind of persecuted minority that deserves it's own special status. So I don't think it's untrue that he puts a lot of emphasis on furry being some "super special important" part of their character. But I get what you mean.
Also, using a real-world example, it would be weird to hear on the news "19 gays were murdered at a bar" as opposed to "19 people" or even "19 gay people were murdered in an attack". Unless targeted for that specific reason (in that case it was), aspects outside age/race/sex aren't relevant and it can get detailed for arbitrary reasons. "12 gamers and 5 weeaboos were assaulted at Gamescom". People would agree that sounds dumb and there's no reason to say. Who you have sex/attracted with or what your interests are is the same thing. Like, if a random crowd in the mall was attacked, do reporters need to ask each one which political party they associate with? "12 republicans and 15 demorats were attacked in a local mall", makes it sound like someone stormed into congress, lol.
@@mrshmuga9 right.
I suppose if we were to consider how some people do target furries because they’re furries, I could kinda understand why he’d think that, but judging from the comments, the rest of his reasoning is really stupid.
@@mylastaccountgotdeletedtha6936 You've seemed to just ignore what he said and have your own argument.
A lot of this comes down to
"Why are you telling random people completely unimportant information of yourself"
Now if somehow you discover your boss or coworker is a furry or whatever then sure bring up like interests, but under what situation you just go
"So yeah, that meeting was hell, by the way im a furry" That completely unimportant and inappropriate. Much like saying
"Hi my name is faraday and im a Dom/Sub" Don't bring up your personal interest or kinks unsolicited. Nobody needs to know that information about you.
This is just another case of narcissism. Me Me Me everyone gotta know all about Me and accept Me and what i enjoy.
On the other hand, my brother announced to my work that I was a furry. The few that care about that are a gay coworker making raunchy werewolf jokes after he discovered it and a former boss that really wanted me to wear a mascot costume outside of the store and wave a sign around.
Nowadays it's the gay guy that mentions it to coworkers. 6 - 7 months I get asked the question "are you a furry?"
When I discover my co workers are furries, I just avoid them. I don't need to know anymore about this person nor do I need to associate with them. Furries who feel other people have to know about or other being furries, on average are weird.
For some reason furries don't get they are tying themselves to a strange fandom, with a load of baggage. Of course people are not going to comfortable and, yes, I rather just not know. So I don't have to think about all the weird furry stuff.
What's fascinating about the supposed suicide rate, is that we have seen a massive spike in mental illness amongst the new generations of people, especially in America. What I would love to ask is something like this: If we assume that the suicide rate is because of a mental illness, and we work to eradicate the mental illness to save them, wouldn't that mean less trans people and less furries exist in total, as the often underlying mental issues that correlate to an increased likelihood of being trans or a furry is reduced?
Yes, this is why nobody is pursuing a cure for gender dysphoria
nah, plenty of furries are pretty sane people who just like getting freaky in bed. If anything I think it would just cause the fandom to return to its earlier days of being more reserved and less focused on identity politics and as a furry, personally I'd welcome that.
@@frustratedsquirrel "Sane people" Also they like pretending they're animal people and fucking in costumes.
Uh huh
Your argument relies on the idea that the correlation is fixed, which is absolute nonsense. For example, if 6% of people in the US report poor mental health, and later the population reporting such is halved, the correlation is probably no longer 6%. Because that'd mean 160 million US citizens died. The much more rational interpretation is that the correlation is different, such as being around 3% now (though this too is extrapolation without another statistic).
Sure, very likely there are people who wouldn't be furries if not for mental illnesses, but the correlation is a worthless univariate model that does little more than hint at the intersection of particular instances of populations with extreme characteristics, that being lgbt and furries.
yeah, if less people suffered from the delusion of being born in the wrong body there would be less of them transitioning.
8:45 he shows 2 spirit on the screen and is like "gender non conforming people have always existed through history..... 2 SPIRIT WAS INVENTED IN THE 1990S!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣
Shh, delusional people don't like it when you point out they make even less sense than flat earther.
🤣 listen life began in the 90s
The only person I've ever heard identify as 2 spirit was a lolcow by the name of Tommy (tooter) Wasserburg, he was an old hippy guy who ran a TH-cam channel. I have no idea what he is doing now days, he started doing the trans/2 spirit before it became popular.
If we want to go the etymology route, fur-cigarette comes from 4chan terminology, where everyone is a "blank"-cigarette. Furries happening to be overwhelmingly cigarettes was just a happy coincidence.
it was the precursor to today's [thing] enjoyer slang, and it was a lot more fun to call people furfaags, artfaags, newfaags, oldfaags, whateverfaags.
literally watch the season 13 episode "the f-word" of south park
It's weird for someone in this segment of interest to be making an etymology argument considering how antonymically the special identity group people like to use prefixes like "pan", "a", "allo", etc. Seriously, I spoke with someone who insisted that asexuality is a spectrum opposite allosexuality rather than just being what it means, no sexuality/interest. The person put demi-sexuality on the "asexual spectrum". People are so stupid.
What's that bro? A Politician defamed a group you see yourself as a part of? Damn, so sad to hear that happened to you literally once. Literally the Furry Holocaust.
I mean, a lot of antifurs are not-see wannabes…
You ever seen that degenerate lot?
Should conservatives also be a protected class that you get in trouble for criticizing or mocking? "No, because they chose to be conservative; they can stop at any time"?
Ok, cool, good chat.
I think neither group are mutually exclusive nor should be attacked for simply being a furry/conservative.
Of course, both have vile people that the majority of the group rightfully wants dead, so there’s yet another similarity. Actually, being a furry is a lot closer to a political or religious identity than a minority status. It isn’t a political status, it’s just very similar.
Arguing with yourself doesn't make you look smart. But nobody should be a protected class, tbh.
@@AClockworkHellcat The disabled at the very least should be protected, they are inherently disadvantaged.
The double standards with the community is real.
Though nobody should take the opinions of a furry seriously.
I think it comes down to social media and "victimhood mentality". A lot of people have seen being a victim somehow gets you more fame and power within the social media sphere and because of that they go "ooh I want some of that for myself!"
I watched the video not long after it was released and I felt like it was just asinine. He's comparing furries to actual in real life minorities? We can technically call a lot of groups of people minorities.
but like, my brother in christ.. it's a fandom focused on anthropomorphic animals. You don't have to disclose that like of yours to anyone. The amount that disclosed that fact to their bosses were way too high... There's a right time and a right place for everything - Telling your boss such ain't really it.
It's like trying to argue Weebs is a minority and as such requires special protection and accommodations.
The video just felt unhinged. And heck, drama is incredibly popular - Not just within the fandom, so it makes sense that he has created a lot of videos on the worst individuals within the fandom. It gives a lot of clicks. It does make that video in particular quite ironic however.
(not every furry is on board with what he says, hope that is obvious lol)
The only response his drivel deserves is "Gamers are the most oppressed minority ", but what you wrote was also pretty good.
the furry pngtuber smiling widely as he mentions furry rock unalive, at least i would also smile talking about that
So much gish gallop he shoulda been named clapped horse
It's a clusterfuck for sure but gish galloping is only really a thing in debates, where your time is finite and you have to think on your feet in the moment. It's not his fault I subject myself to the conditions I do for sport/entertainment.
@@HarmfulOpinions damn now he has me mixing up terms now.
@@HarmfulOpinionsnah disagree. Theyre doing to same thing the goal is just to overhwelm the viewer.
That kitty litter box thing wasn't a rumor. I work part time as an assistant MMA coach and one of my students spoke to me a while back expressing concern over it. It was the last thing I expected to hear there. Kids shouldn't have to worry about that crap but here we are.
Edit for grammar.
Lol "that crap"
You don't say?
If I had a nickel for every time a furry claimed or implied ancient history or humanized animal characters in fairy tales mean they're a minority that stems back to ancient enlightened "furries" I'd be more wealthy than any suspiciously wealthy furry asking for art drawn of their character.
furry haters are a minority
i literally have no choice, i was born a furry hater, respect me
ywnbafh
(you will NEVER be a furry hater)
The way this guy speaks had a strange affect on my comprehension skills: his lengthy sentences rolled off my brain like water off a duck.
Bigotry is bad...now let me tell you about how the west is wrong about gender.
I really do think these essay videos are designed to be filled with as much conflicting and useless information so people can walk away agreeing with whatever points resonated with them like a rorschach test.
lil bro looks like discount anomaly
"Being in highschool during this period hurt"
Andrew Tate was
...not that long ago.
Is this dude just a kid himself? Wtf?
Could've been a senior or 3rd year when all the stuff was going down
he writes like he's struggling to pad out a minimum word count essay and misusing words, so he's developmentally still a teen regardless of how many years he's been alive
We’ll sorta I guess, in a few months ago I actually watch a video him talking about that Bluey Knockoff from the Daily Wire. And he said he was 17, I don’t know if his birthday pass or not but I can tell he still feels like a kid after watching this video.
I mean, about the 'racism in the furry fandom' thing, there's _is_ a subculture called the 'Nazi-furs' so ...
oh look, an even MORE oppressed minority group 🔎👀
A small counter culture has an even smaller counter counter culture.
I find this funny.
@@ZealotOfSteal I mean, I wouldn't necessarily call the furries a 'counterculture'.
@@Nukestarmaster they're certainly not mainstream, but I agree. I just wanted to make a dumb joke.
@@ZealotOfSteal Oh yea, Furzis, funny shit.
Man, i wish i was so priviledged i could have people liking or not liking my favorite thing as much as me be the most pressing part of my life...
So you wish to be Muslim?
Yiff in hell, furbritish cigarette just doesn't have the same ring to it.
Try furcig. Not as good but furciggy sounds hilarious
@@GodOfPlaguehow about furfig?
@@ZealotOfSteal also good
I’m gonna save everyone a bunch of time.
Are furries a minority?
No, that’s stupid.
He thinks furries are a marginalized minority that deserve and need the status of a protected group under the law.
But is also concerned about the optics of using that word since more established minority groups might consider it stolen valor.
so TL;DR for this meandering tirade of a video is that he wants disproportionate consideration and accommodation for furries. While understanding that there is stiff competition for such status. So he is prepared to accept a lower tier in the hierarchy and show deference to OG minorities.
What a shitty way of looking at things. "I have agoraphobia, so I must insist that anywhere I want to go be officially considered part of my house".
Just interact with people who arn't furries without expecting them to understand your esoteric perspectives, or accept that your inability to function outside of them is entirely your responsibility. For as long as you are unwilling to take off the mask.
He reminds me of the south park episode where Tom Cruise and company want Mohammeds power of not being made fun of. It's that misguided.
If your fursonna is something you get fun out and can enjoy with other people who are into that stuff, more power to you.
If you have spent too long navel gazing at it, making it the cornerstone of your identity and self esteem... So long and to such an extreme in fact that other peoples irreverence of it risks seriously harming you? That's just irresponsible and unhealthy. The rest of the world is more entitled to expecting a bit of self awareness from YOU, than you are to major accommodations being made for your self inflicted disability. Offering deference to the groups that purport to be even more thin skinned than you only makes it worse.
I just say they don’t want be made fun of on the internet
The accent is killing me. I keep hearing him say "dickheads" instead of decades and "funny animals" instead of furry animals.
not all Australians are this bad with enunciation even when their accent is thick
I wasn't sure if that's what he was saying or not, HO didn't say anything about it
@@xXx_Regulus_xXx His not Australian his Kiwi
He's ignoring literally every furry convention that's ever happened. I've not seen a single advertised convention by them that didn't go horribly wrong for "furry reasons". The one where people blacked out from heatstroke without food was the best case scenario. I'd ignore that too if I was lying, there's no way around that.
The first thing I think of was that hotel incident, where the furries were actively destroying the place and left drugs and garbage everywhere. They were so bad that the hotel manager permanently banned furry conventions, then contacted every other hotel in the whole state to avoid hosting them. Give them an inch and they'll take three miles.
The first thing I think of was that hotel incident, where the furries were actively destroying the place and left garbage everywhere. They were so bad that the hotel manager permanently banned all furry conventions, then contacted every other hotel in the whole state to avoid hosting them. Give them an inch and they'll take three miles.
The first thing I think of was that hotel incident, where the furries were actively destroying the place and left drugs and garbage everywhere. They were so bad that the hotel manager permanently banned any kind of furry conventions, then contacted every other hotel in the whole state to avoid hosting them. Give them an inch and they'll take three miles.
It’s bizarre to me that so many furries treat it like an intrinsic unchangeable part of their identity, like race. It’s a hobby if anything.
Safety googles are cool and all but you should really wear a respirator when covering furries.
and ALOT of disinfectant
Narcissism is a hell of a drug
"simply living (to spite the people who don't like the furry fandom) is enough"
gonna bet that he doesn't think that way about the "bad" parts of the fandom.
7:22 And shockingly all these independant culture came to the same concussion of women being care givers and men being warriors.
I bet this guy is the type to look at how many ancient culture built pyramids and thinks 'aliens' or an advance human civilization.
To be fair, the pre-flood advanced civilisation theory is relatively robust when compared to other "alternative" explanations for the pyramids
This dude probably the kind who thinks men and women's skeleton have "little to no difference"
Harmful lookin like a R6 siege operator
honestly since the only reason for wanting minority status is to confer some kind of monetary or social benefit, I'm an accelerationist on this. furries can call themselves a minority as long as they never forget that GAMERS 👏 ARE 👏 THE 👏 MOST 👏 OPPRESSED👏 MINORITY 👏 GROUP 👏👏👏
I genuinely dont know why we keep these inhuman peltskins around
I didn't notice it until you pointed it out.
RainFurrest.... that is all
Which one?
Furry terrorists is a scary thought...
Furrahuackbar!
it's called shutting off the internet or a website within a few clicks x3 a ton of furries are in IT
"They can afford thousands of dollars on a fur-suit. You think they can't spend tens of dollars on a pipe bomb?"
"...content of their character, not by the colour of their fur..."
It's fascinating to see there are people who actually don't know that the victims of the mustache man's genocide weren't only Jewish.
3:45 Slav suiting is same as blackface. As Slavs are black.
Hey bro wanna see my slavsona?
@@eliaspanayi3465 Dude. I once had room in hotel where they had their Slavcon. Seen enough.
24:17 we can only hope to live in that perfect world
"Do furries have in suit microclimates?" Questions I pray I never know the answer to.
Dude my eyes went awful this year too.
Had insane sensitivity to light and lost almost all focus.
Yes, that's what I'm going through - and I get extreme strain and disorientation if I look at things that are too busy or if I look at 3d games with free cam.
You find anything to help?
Same with me, I thought maybe I was returning to my goblin form
The guys inner fascist authoritarian cannot fathom politicians are people and they are prone to be just as wrong as anyone else. " HOW!? HOW CAN THIS BE!? THEY ARE THE CHOSEN AUTHORITIES! AUTHORITIES ARE IDEALS! THIS CANNOT BE!"
subconscious deification of politicians is one of the creepiest things people do. at least pick a spiritual leader or something
Yeah man, towards the end, his goose stepping (no pun intended) really came spilling out. Where I was just annoyed with him at first, I came to see him as my enemy with some of this ish coming out of his noise hole.
I really want to believe that most of the people in the furry community are not that stupid and know that what they are doing in their spaces make the general public uneasy.
That's probably why they do it. The attention it brings. Yet if it were accepted like they supposedly want, then no attention would be brought to them anymore. Then they'll just keep trying to push boundaries further..
Never having social acceptance is how we gatekeep corporations out of our interests. It's important.
Between their fursuits and buying multi hundred dollar commissions of their characters, furries certainly have experienced the hall of cost.
This guy can't into words
He thinks minority signifies status and isnt that a dead giveaway that we need to cut down on minority priviledges.
Buddy, rapists are a minority. Its just a term that defines something as smaller to relation to some bigger group or thing. A slice of cake is a minor piece of the whole cake...
This is what happens when social media has spent a decade glorifying the minority status, people now think it just means "hated group"
57:45 And this guy is just too big brained to fall for any of this misinformation and rabbit holes.
I'm a furry. Honestly furries have a negative reputation for good reason. It isn't just blind hate.
Porn is nearly all of the art & where most of the money is. Fursuiti makers coming close behind.
Though fursuit sex isn't common.
There are some incredibly disturbing fetishes within the community. Such as cub, inflation & vore.
Its also pretty common fur furries to be drama prone & in general unstable.
I love furry & I'm pretty open about it. But oh boy is the community a pit.
Also yeah. A fair few furries will pass out in their suits during the warmer months. Especially if they're new to it.
Poodleing is the best way to go imo (not using a torso section. So just head, gloves, boots & tail).
Gives your body more room to breathe.
He has a point with the LGBT thing. There are a LOT of gay & trans people in the furry community.
To the point that they VASTLY outnumber heterosexuals like myself.
There are people who hate furries simply because they hate the LGBT.
Though I wouldn't say furries fall under the LGBT, & more that a lot of furries ARE LGBT.
There also seems to be a weird trend of them attacking other peoples' sexual interests. It's pretty common sight to see a furry invade monster girl spaces to complain about how our art is lazy because "it's just a human", but there's also the trend/joke about how when you get prudes trashing you on Twitter, check their likes and they're always a furry. Feels like a large chunk of them are just desperate to find another group that they can feel that they're better than
@@SoverineSR That used to be a joke. Ever see the old "Not furry, 25% furry, 50% furry, Dangerously Furry, YOU SICK BASTARD" meme?
Where Not furry is just a girl with cat ears & sick bastard is a literal cat. I've joked about it myself with friends when seeing basic cat girls. Jokingly calling it "cowardly".
But the idea of people doing that without irony is beyond stupid. But sadly not surprising.
With how many of the LGBT are in the furry community. Kink has ended up being a giant element of furry for the majority. As it is with a large part of the pride marching type of LGBT person. Makes sense. They where historically discriminated against & outright attacked for being who they are. So they had to repress themselves. When they could finally express themselves, like a rubber band being held back, they sprung too far into the opposite direction. & over time high levels of sexual expression became just part of the LGBT community, which also influenced furry.
Spend too much time around that & it can become all you are. When you're highly sexual all the time, people who have more going on than just horniness are going to be prudes to you.
Furries shouldn't be part of the LGBT. Not all gay people are furries and not all furries are gay either.
As an L, I just want to be treated normally and fairly. Furries are drama magnets.
No furries shouldn't be a part of the LGBT.
@@SoverineSR
Yet furry pawn is often the blandest character design of all, next to anime. You see one neon-blue nosed wolf you've seen 'em all.
The ONLY way furries can make the argument that being a furry is not a choice is if they agree cede the argument that being a furry is, by definition, either a sexual indentity or a handicap.
Because it’s certainly not a race, sex, or nationality. So you either have to accept that it is a sexuality - and therefore that people are not wrong to think you’re closeted z-philes. Or you have to accept that it is a physical or mental handicap. As far as I can think of, those are the only 5 things that are considered immutable and inherent aspects of a person.
If even religion is considered a choice, despite people often having significant potential familial, community and social ties based on their religious identity, then that’s really the only leg they have to stand on.
I guess technically veteran status for people who were drafted is also not really a choice, but you probably don’t want people to start asking questions about whether you’re forcibly press-ganging people into being furries.
religion used to be the go-to for social movements who wanted the "don't think I'm weird/don't impede me" pass. there have been some nascent religions like Kopimi that basically exist to legitimize piracy, for example
You can't choise they groom you into a cult ( for but hurt furries this is a joke)
"No one cared who I was until I put on the Fennec Fox Mask." -Oscar "GlitterTail" Wilde
You’re not a victim, you’re just weird.
2:23 that joke out of nowhere got me
15:30 - pretty sure a Holo-caust is a term used from the old testament. It's not a strictly 20th century term...
Do you think guys like this have gone to university or do they sit in a discord server, sharing excerpts from papers that suit their biases and have cobbled together a messy jumble of of ideas.
I'm not sure which answer would be worse.
Both need to be solved
College is designed to turn men into furries.
The instances of furries in schools that I've seen have been protests by actual students claiming things happened. Doesn't mean they happened, but you have kids in schools saying that these things happened and obviously the school directors do not want that kind of publicity.
My favorite part of every video essay is when they cite a complete rando because their high school teacher said they needed to cite at least 5 sources before declaring the sky to be blue.
furries getting 1% of the hate lolicons get.
try being a cub artist. It's about the same.
CAN'T SEE MI FACE BALACLAVA
CAN'T SEE MI FACE BALACLAVA
CAN'T SEE MI FACE BALACLAVA
This dude is absolutely DESPERATE to gain protected status.
After his classification of being a minority is a badge of honor.
furries are not a minority. a furry is somebody who likes anthropomorphic animals in media, and that's it.
Doesn’t add up. That includes mickeys mouse, bluey and a shit ton of kids cartoons.
Kids should not be going to furry events. This is something a lot more adult and sexual. Furry is simply a fetish
@9:35 absolutely Kant-pilled
The villain Harmful Opinion is evolving.
This is why we need #AltFurry
Truly, hmofa is the future
Aren't those guys just sexual deviant libertines with some "edgy" window dressing?
Might I ask what that is?
@@DarkKnightCuron Mostly a way to troll left-wing furries.
They created an entire enemy group and motivation from nothing but people quote tweeting them with the phrase "This is why we need #AltFurry"
That bonfire of retardation did lead to the creation of a few right-wing furry groups, though.
@@DarkKnightCuron man taming furries
The video you reacted to seems to have been deleted.
not the whole channel? damn
@@Brain-washed2 it might still be up with a different title.
That great cause it give me more of a reason to watch his video more.
This is just wild. If the requirement for minority or protected class works out this way being what you like being disliked by a bunch of other people when you make it public this is going to open the door to them running with their “MAPs” should be okay too propaganda. That’s my prediction.
Edit: Nice, came in near the end there with the PDF logic. Nailed it - I called that like 20 minutes in.
Also I find it interesting that he keeps referring to it as the fandom and wants to consider it a minority. That’s gotta be madness. What about non-practicing fans of human taxidermy…they have to be a small enough group to be a minority and they would definitely get hate. Should they be a minority?
This guy worked real hard to prove, to his mom, that he's not abnormal...the struggle is real, yo!
Therians or otherkin exist. The Internet used to keep them contained within Tumblr before Verizon mucked that up.
If you're going to speak for a subculture, please first ensure you can string a sentence together.
8:24 And throughout history there's been many, many reasons given for why the sky cries. Does that mean we have to start praying to the god of harvest or else the rain will stop?
1:11:30 5 million furries? That's a bit of a generous number given the time frame, don't you think? Besides, if there were that many furries you would be able to see their shadows from aerial photographs of furry conventions. So 5 million furries? I don't buy it.
It's actually closer to 6 million tbh
1:26:34 "if being a furry is a choice, why do we exist? why would anyone willingly sign up for this?"
unironically turbobased
30:00 I do lightsaber choreography and perform for people, I'm still hesitant to just tell people that I do something so dorky. It's impressive 1/4 of furries feel comfortable telling their bosses about it given the level of kink associated with it.
55:35 absolutely killed me “you think furries would be familiar with taxonomy”
Fur vey it's anotha meowah
48:04 furries that use 4chan call themselves that when they make threads on /b/ to post art in.
45:20 Mickey Mouse anyone?
One angle that may or may not be tackled:
The youtube video Furries l Down the rabbit hole
By Fredrik Knudsen, he makes video rarely
The origin of furries were calling them funny animals, because humans were too damn serious during the 40s and 50s. There is a series called down the Rabbit Hole which mentions this, which i paraphrased.
While Fritz the cat is mentioned among other things, and how the 80s had prank callers making things up to shut down the conventions.
Funny animal is just Carl Barks comics and shit like that. It's also massively popular unlike furry. It's a different thing.
you can BE a furry and you can BE a furry who is also a minority...but furries as a whole are not the same as being an ethnic group or whatever.
It's a cool little underground club for degenerates who like drawing sexy animal-people for fun. It's supposed to be something you put on when you're at home on the internet and then take off when you go to work or school or whatever. People who try to force it into being something more than that are taking it too far. Being a furry shouldn't be something you openly talk about with normies, the taboo is supposed to be part of the appeal.
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That said, the furry fandom is currently also being invaded by moralists and cancel pigs, so there's a big schism between old-school furries who like being edgy and pushing buttons and know how to conduct themselves otherwise, and weird sexless new-age furitans who want to make it into a kid-friendly space and cancel anyone who's drawing what they deem to be problematic art while also being absolute weirdos irl because they've deluded themselves into thinking that wearing a fursuit in polite society is acceptable and innocuous and that the fandom was never a spicy BDSM club to begin with...
Honestly as someone who falls into the former camp, it's so annoying that I've decided to not even bother with furry social media anymore. It's just not worth the brain rot.
You'll never take my japanese cartoons, harmful!
12:25 the perfect freeze frame summary of the video the title next to the freeze frame spot on.
Also, how is furrydom itself not an "online rabbit hole?"