Very classic that someone inflating their lane performance by abusing ranged poke at a level where they are unreliably punished would think they’re held back by trolls and buys a boost.
@@autokrft Well he had to carry this kid so 4v5 isn't guaranteed. It hurt my soul seeing him at 100 cs at 22 min. I'd be mad at that as a jg let alone a solo laner.
If having troll teamates make you lose then boosting wouldn't exist because it wouldn't be possible. Buying boosting is LITERALLY admitting that YOU are the problem lmao
Or just that you are not good enough/don’t know how to carry the trolls. Had a Sivir jgl yesterday and I’m the problem? Cuz I also complain about troll teammates. That’s why I play xerath so I can carry
@@NSugga It was implied when I said getting boosting is admitting you're the problem, as in, it's your own fault for losing games, as in, if you played better you would win...
point was that if you are in the grey area where you cant carry the hard feeders and inters but you can play the game and win otherwise ( and do well / carry ) then it is in that moment the trollers that are holding you back. (not entirely but mostly for THAT point in time)
@@PeachiiWubs bro that doesn't matter against zed, that knows his stuff, he will just go in and out and kill u over and over again. the point is that yes u get trolls u get unwinnable games but its not that much that u can't climb. to say that it doesn't matter if u win lane and have good macro, is ignoring the issue that u are facing better people as well.
Ong I had a zed mid that just randomly disconnected and reconnected and didn’t even go back to lane in a tank game 😬 than another game where my shen fed a mord 10 kills by 15mins so yeah I do get trolled pretty often
Neace, I really enjoyed that you took someone into a custom to hammer home a few points. You get to highlight specific behaviors, and test for specific behaviors as a coach and the student gets to have repeated practice on the skill you're drilling. Hopefully more of this content to come with other coachings.
@@derbestimmer1148 yes. You claim that your teammates are holding you back and then you hire someone to go 1v5 your games to climb, which means your teammates are not holding you back
@@korincorinthian mate, no one hires a Bronze Player to boost you out of Bronze. Ppl hire a Smurf in hope for reaching an Elo bracket where the other Teammates play solid enough so they can win Games with less skill requirement by themselves. This notion might be entirely correct, but it has some truth to it. I played every big Moba, and especially the ones with smaller player bases confront you with unmanageable increases in Matchmaking difficulty after a certain amount of climb on your part. If you do not balance this out with a large amount of games, you go on huge auto loss Streaks where teams are actually holding you back. Boosting might not be the solution for this, but I think there might not be one at all but actually improving your skill with practice to a level where you are "smurfing" in your own Elo which is hard to do without a proper learning curve. League is a bit better that e.g. Dota2 because it has more Players MM can work with. Still I can understand why someone would buy boosting while at the same time not liking the idea of it.
@@coldfire6679 This. Even if you're better than your teammates, if you're not good enough to carry them and win then you still deserve your elo. Obviously there are some games that are just completely unwinnable but if you claim to be that much better than your elo then you should be able to carry bad teams through the majority of games. High elo smurfs stomping through iron - gold with an 80% WR is a pure testament to that fact. People just have massive egos and dont wanna face the truth
I am also amazed at the restraint Neace has lol. If this guy started talking about how self centered these others in chat were I don't think I could hold back reminding him he paid people to boost his act. I can only assume to show others how good "he" was at a video game lol. I guess that is what you have to do to coach people in league. Hold back and focus 100% on helping these scubs even when it kills you hahah. I have even more respect for him after this video lol. I would be so humble if I ever paid a high elo player to coach me bc I know I suck haha.
Yes, I'm constantly thinking that I would've lost my shit or gone on long winded rants if I was coaching somebody. Neace identifies the quickest ways to improve the client and stays on target and patient, even if the client is unfocused.
@@izzymcgdog7653 he is a coach, he has to go with patience, these players are not good at the game and he knows it, that's why they are paying for a coach. Even if they say shit that makes no sense or whatever, he has to counterpoint logically. They are not paying to get roasted or ranted.
"I'm too focused on getting a lead in lane with Corki because I kinda need to." On fucking Corki?? How is this guy expecting to play a champ if he doesn't even understand the basic identity of a champion
As a ranged champ normally u want to get a lead. So I think he's going off that advice. Even on lategame scaling vayne u can get a lead and punish people But for corki/Kayle the advice is different Usually it's just survive with as much cs as possible
Truly an amazing session: the training for both sides - melee and ranged - was a beautiful demonstration of how the game works when played properly. I'm sure the student learned a lot with this too. Great job, really!!
I bought one of these Smurf accounts, just for a fresh start on ranked. Learned my lesson, was stuck in Smurf queue and I got fucked for like a week playing insane players well above my skill level
Yup. Trust me the new smurf quene is hell. You get matched with all smurfs. Sometimes the same people if you play at the same times. Its like high elo except you have sometimes actual low level players on your team. Youre not gonna have fun and your teammates are gonna wonder why they ran into terminators above their skill. I tried levelling a fresh account I think 2-3 years back. Was lvl 26 but was running into the same people or plats. Then diamonds. Riot really weighs the sytem against you if you even get a remotely good winstreak or win rate.
@@richter9485 reason riot does that is because the system is thinking about giving you a high initial rank + potentially a double uprank if you keep it up
I only started playing this game recently(less than 200 hours of expirience) and it feels like after i got 80% winrate this season i get smurfs against me every game in silver. Feels weird then before like silver 1 you stomp and as soon as i reached it i cant do anything and get outplayed but ranks are actualy the same. Maybe a mental thing cuz for example in csgo if you pop off in 1 game you get called a smurf/cheater. Wonder if it applies to LOL.
Hey NEACE, remember after the TP nerf last patch you made the prediction that Twisted Fate would be a strong pick? Glad you did, started playing him again and sitting at a comfy 70% winrate in ranked (30 games)! Cheers =D
I used to do alot of boosting, mostly getting people to gold (im mid master peak) I stopped a couple years ago but I been carrying friends and then they shot talk people like they didn't get carried. Makes me smile getting them to gold and watching em int back to silver 😊
I like how League creators are talking about people paying $250 for coaching but nobody talks about guys like this, paying thousands for boosts and getting NOTHING of value in return. They lose the rank eventually, and they don't learn to play. But coaching is not worth the value to them. Fuck that.
NEACE held back on a good ass roast at the 13:30 mark. Come on NEACE! I know you wanted to follow it up by “yeah…and then they pay to get boosted which inflates their ego’s even more” lol
People pretending that there isn't a scale of RNG some people have is ignorant. I have had an account where I was d2 and then started another to play only top lane. First 4 games was an intentional feeder and leavers. Literally. 4 our of 10 games is normally a troll on either team.
yooooooooo neace you should defiantly do more one on ones with your students to see how well they got after your lessons that would be pretty chill to watch too!
its actually true that there's trolls in bronze, I went 40 games from bronze 4 to silver 2 on a new acc recently and only had like 6 losses where they straight up ran it down/ said they were purposefully trying to make us lose, there's genuinely people in bronze that get mad their previous games and just want to make everyone misserable, its a thing that happens like every 10 or so games but it does happen
I don’t get why I’ve heard memes about NEACE coaching the 2-3 videos I’ve tuned into he comes across as very caring and helpful to players that are willing to listen
Thought it was a bit mean at first but seeing client actually put into practice the ideas you were pressing on him in the 1v1s was cool to see his progress and we didn’t see it all
I love that you're doing some matchup help with this guy. I think that'd be very beneficial for a lot of people especially if they have trouble during laning against some matchups. I know you're showing him the fundamentals of ranged tops, but I'm sure this format would be insanely profitable knowledge for the students.
Anyone who complains about low elo trolls should be asking why they haven't killed their bronze enemy lane multiple times, taken down both towers in lane and become a monster
today i subscribed you are the first league youtuber i have subscribed in years, its actually insane how good your content is i sky rocketed my elo in 14 days because of how good the educational content is. I have 70 % winrate on my main champ and around 60% wr overall thanks so much I will pay for a sesh after i make some money because of how much more i can learn in a personal sesh. I appreciate you are uploading such a high quality content for free.
This session made me realize that I'm not bullying my opponents nearly enough whenever I play ranged top. I'm gonna try having that mentality every time now. Make every minion cost them HP.
It's nice that this player was so receptive to coaching. He needs time to improve his mechanics but I see great potential. Also the Corki top pick might be rough for him if he does rank up
It is totally amazing to me that people will pay others to boost their act. Like let me pay you to get me in a rank where people are going to just dumpster me until I am where I should be thanks lol.... Like how delusional are these kids. I am not a high rank. I have peaked at gold the past few years. But I am a dad with other priorities. I don't have the time to play thousands of games and I understand I am bad at the game. I still love the climb and do my best to get better. When I play vs someone who is a great deal better than I am I can tell in the first 5 min of the game and it sucks. Why on earth would I pay a player much better and me to boost me up so I have to face people so much better. Its like you are paying for punishment lol.
0:57 This is what everyone who got boosted should hear. Personally, I got boosted from p1 to d4 because I was COMPLETELY done with ranked and the elo, but in the end it was just me being lazy. Currently I'm d1, but it'll always be that ugly spot in my league 'career' or whatever you'd like to call it
I love the custom game setup. When I started playing the game the only thing I did was play 1v1 against my brother, who was gold. Did that every day while playing against bots for maybe a month until I learned a champ and how to farm and lane. When I went online in like bronze, I dominated completely. I only played Akali and I got 25+ kills every game. People thought I was smurfing, this was back in season 4. There is so much to be learned through 1v1's against someone who is better than you.
I mean there is a lot of trolling that happens in Bronze, but statistically the same amount is being done on the enemy team. You just have to play better as you're the only consistent in your team. If you're consistently good, you'll climb.
The weird thing is, if you play like that from level 1 you will lose that lane to competent top/jungle pairs. The reason is that winning top as ranged v. melee is *all* about wave management. You want the wave pushing into you, because then you can get it frozen (it's much easier as ranged v. melee, than melee v. melee, let alone as melee v. ranged) and then if they try to shove it in and/or break your freeze then you can do this to them (auto the shit out of them every time they step up). If try to do that from level 1, you will push the wave (because autoing them aggros enemy minions, who are then not attacking your minions for a bit; this asymmetry in damage by minions to other teams minions pushes your lane) and then gift the enemy top a freeze or even if they don't get that, expose yourself nicely to a 3:30-4:00 jungle gank on top lane by the enemy jungle that will then get you killed and give your lane opponent control of the wave (they shove it into tower, back, buy come to lane, it's pushing into them again, rise repeat, you get dicked on in top lane). *Never* push the wave at level 1 as a ranged top. If it has to push (because they are barely even last hitting), slow push it so the wave gets big and you can force the crash easily and then leave (back buy, return in time to prevent counterpush/shove from crashing your tower, get freeze, win lane).
@@Frightning That only matters if the wave is neutral, you auto them, and they don't touch the wave. I get what you are saying, kinda, but op said WHEN she is farming to auto her, not to auto during a neutral wave.
@@LunchMeatTrump My point is that you only do that when her wave is bigger than yours, so that you're effectively blunting her wave's push, while also harassing her, *and* making it harder for her to actually shove the wave in and get it to crash (you should be able to never allow a melee champ to crash the wave against you as a ranged champ if you do this right). At level 1 when the first wave arrives, it is in neutral state, so it is *very* important to be patient and not do this at the start (I see *so* many ranged top players ruin their own because they go 'I can free hit at level 1 and get free dmg in' and then they seed all control of the wave to their opponent and go 0/3 by 12 minutes).
@@Frightning Yea I guess I just don't understand what you are saying. In my mind trying to auto a Riven with a bigger wave results in them flashing on you and killing you. You must just play against bad people and have unknown strats. The strats to this game have already been figured out and given to us for free by tons of challenger and pro players. I guess if you can make that work in your games keep at it, but I wouldn't personally be telling other players to do that same nonsense.
@@LunchMeatTrump You don't let her get a monster wave, need to trim it as it pushes into you, and she doesn't just flash+stun 100-0 you (at least not until pretty late in laning phase and by then you should already have enough of a lead over her to not die to it), you can trade flashes to disengage that and then she's flashless and far from the safety of her tower (ez gank for your jungler). This is about how to manipulate the lane into a winning state (frozen near your tower, where you can constantly hard punish any attempt by your melee opponent to farm) in the first few minutes of the game.
The grim reality of learning pressure Chanps is you have to die trying till you are able to do it. Same goes for jayce or rengar or whatnot. you have to be able to win hard or your pick is shit. To be able to do that you have to be riding the line.
Look. I get being frustrated by trolls in bronze. Two games in a row, I got some full blown trolls. First I was Garen top, got a Singed jungle that proxy farmed top lane the whole time, never once killed a jungle camp. Second, I was Malz mid and our Lee Sin jungle came to lane to take farm, dived under enemy tower to get them all, died, repeat. But boosting an account for that? Sure bro.
The thing is, there is an equal chance of playing with or against that troll. It never works the way that you get many more on your team than on the enemy. It equals itself out in the long run, unless you provoke people into trolling. In Bronze very little is needed to actually turn the game around, because people have no clue. The only thing you need to do is turn off chat and do not let the trolls tilt you and dont carry your anger in between games. Each game is a fresh start and no baggage can be brought in. People cry about bad teams and what not, but they always ignore that they are by no means perfect and they can still improve their gameplay without any regard for the teams they get. For example, I play top lane - I know for sure I can win lane if Im better than the enemy toplaner, even if the jungler sits top, I can win through perfect farm and playing around enemy ganks and dives. I may not be able to influence the rest of the map, but I know I can win the lane at least 70% of games. If that's not the case, then there's LOTS of room to improve.
@@WelsyCZ it's not equal stop misinforming ppl. do you know what mmr is. it'S an actual reference on how good you are at the game and this shit makes you lose every games after a win streak. cus when you get like a crazy good win streak you get smurfs and stupid shit in your side. I know what im saying i can notice that. first games of placement we're alright and then big papa smurfs hit my games i wasnt ready for it. cus my yi is already 0/5 at 4:30 of the game and he still blame every one for this. etc etc
Climbing isn't winning every game, it's winning the 20% riding on you. 40% are wins, 40 are losses, 20 are on you. The best anyone can hope for is 60 40 on average.
Gotta admit i love the rough look on Neace. I reckon he should keep that look. Love the content. Please do a video on Zeri, love playing her and she mega fun for adc.
i really notice this kind of pressure in lower elo, i just played vs a darius as malz in silver2 and he tilted because he couldn't understand spacing and telled every time jung was near even out played and got a double due to their greed. i just started playing last season after 8 years off the game and its so much more complex than it originally was viewed and i do enjoy that. Promos done time to beat gold 2 peak of 50 games in s11 only playing malz lol.
@@joshuacox5817 I agree that it's hard to always be 2 elos above. But if yoh are in like bronze, it's pretty easy because the learning curve will be much steeper. You can easily outclass bronze players by 2 elos by having the fundamentals down better than them. This will of course stagnate as you go higher, but it is possible nontheless
My stance on trolls is there is a 20 percent less chance of a troll on my team because I don't plan on trolling. Which if I'm better than my rank means in a 3 game streak I may see trolls but if I play 20 games and never win streak it's on me.
I mean to be fair though, climbing out of low elo can be sometimes annoying. You can be the only one winning lane and carrying, yet lose the game at the expense of your teammates. Not saying it's impossible, but his wording of "troll" definitely threw his argument out of the gutter.
The issue is, if you think you are better than your rank, you should rarely have issues carrying games in that elo, elsewise how are you going to carry against better enemies.
@@jordanbauerly8843 but ultimately this is a stupid argument because you essientially have to be playing two ranks above what you are to carry a game in bronze, and even then you won't successful.
@@rotaryking100 I'm talking in the context of playing in low elo and you are playing "higher" than average compared to your teammates. Not really a "dumb argument" if you can't get the context.
Being 100%, This season I got slotted Iron while trying to ADC, I've always been a High Bronze // Low Silver player. 68% Win-rate in the Jungle just finding champs that click with me and my playstyle. Getting out of Bronze is 90% just playing games and learning what works in that Elo.. I got I2 to B3 in a day or so just because I realized I-B Players don't build Grevious vs champs that heal a shit load, so I just go full LS Trundle and win 65%ish of my games.. They also don't build well Vs tanks, so Sejuani is my pocket pick.
Neace I think you forgot to mention an important part of playing ranged top laners which is you can't do what you did to garen because there junglers gonna be camping him, So you need to pressure at the right time not just perma pressure
Hey , I gotta ask , when do I use cull ? And how to to use it , never actually bought it and want to know . It would be great if u coach a shaco jg! I would like yo see in low elo.
@@joshuacox5817 Nope still playing the same account that I started in Season 10 when I first began to play. It's ok maybe one day you'll get out of that losers queue or maybe you'll get a coaching session and Neace can tell you all the shit you're doing wrong to get out of silver. That's pretty unnecessary though, his free YT content is enough to get you out of pisslow if you actually listen to what he's telling people and put it into practice in your own games.
I play Jax and Tryndamre. Ok, I don't understand something about minion waves. You have built a big wave and crashed it. Is it okay when the enemy champion is building a big wave and haven't crashed to take enemy jungle camps or scuttle? And come back only when the wave crashes or is better to be in the lane when he is building a big wave to not miss XP?
I think you stay in range of the creeps for exp and try to steal what you can fro the wave without engaging in hard trades (bc the huge minion wave will aggro you). But if you see an opportunity to get a camp or a skirmish go for it but comeback alive to collect the wave, yes. Edit: the biggest mistake lies on losing the crashing wave wether because you die on a skirmish or recall or something. Ofc this is situational. There are matchups where you don't want your enemy to crash and have free time to roam.
Theoreticaly, you can do that, but practically the enemy will clear the wave instantly as soon as they see you are missing. Getting into enemy jungle takes a lot of time. What I usually do is go take a honey flower from the river, ward inside my jungle to see a dive coming or maybe take scuttle (although thats somewhat risky if you dont know where enemy mid/jgl are. There's nothing wrong with just soaking XP from a bush and stealing a little cs here and there. What you must understand is - when you see a big wave, it means a potential dive and you must keep your health high. Taking poke is out of question, because if you lose enough health, you either back and lose the wave or you die and lose the wave too.
That thing on khazix happened to me on Evelyn, where the thing that indicates whether or not the enemy sees you never came off. So all game I showed that the adc or anyone else sees me even Though they don't when I'm on the other side of the map. Checked every bush and no wards that would show that they see me at all. The game seems to have a lot of bugs this season
@@150Mewtwo its not fixed. I main eve and I get that issue everytime but I still know my distance and where in the circle they can be before seeing me.
Very classic that someone inflating their lane performance by abusing ranged poke at a level where they are unreliably punished would think they’re held back by trolls and buys a boost.
Interesting how the guy that boosts them isn't held back by trolls :D
@@markothevrba boosters doesnt play off meta bull shit champs. They do play meta and play really well. some boosters plays as duo as well.
They would still climb. It’s just they are being payed to climb and want to do it fast as possible.
He said trolls in bronze. Bronze. You guys needs to chill. There are trolls in bronze. This is a fact.
@@joshuacox5817 it is not the reason ANYONE is stuck in bronze like he claimed. they are bronze because they are shit
"It's the trolls' fault I'm losing in bronze"
*Booster plays account with a 79% winrate*
"Yeah it was definitely the trolls"
79% wr in bronze? Booster getting trolled! Lol
i just boosted an account in silver and went 39-3. a 79% wr in bronze is not a boost, that's just a gold 1 smurf lol
@@autokrft Well he had to carry this kid so 4v5 isn't guaranteed. It hurt my soul seeing him at 100 cs at 22 min. I'd be mad at that as a jg let alone a solo laner.
@@autokrft still a boost. Just a crappy one
@@autokrftI did 100% win rate iron to gold but I still end up losing gmaes sometimes in smurf queue silver
If having troll teamates make you lose then boosting wouldn't exist because it wouldn't be possible. Buying boosting is LITERALLY admitting that YOU are the problem lmao
Or just that you are not good enough/don’t know how to carry the trolls. Had a Sivir jgl yesterday and I’m the problem? Cuz I also complain about troll teammates. That’s why I play xerath so I can carry
@@NSugga That's...what i'm saying?
@@MatWith0neT where did you say that?
@@NSugga It was implied when I said getting boosting is admitting you're the problem, as in, it's your own fault for losing games, as in, if you played better you would win...
point was that if you are in the grey area where you cant carry the hard feeders and inters but you can play the game and win otherwise ( and do well / carry ) then it is in that moment the trollers that are holding you back. (not entirely but mostly for THAT point in time)
Dude, this guy got MORE than his money's worth, and I think he is only BEGINNING to understand how valuable this session was.
$300 worth?
seems pretty worth for 300$ worth
@@evilhutdug4665 fair enough - I’m thinking you either have a lot more money than me or care a lot more about league haha
@@againsthegrainx7556 Maybe worth it for people who really want to get better but I wouldn't dare spend anything over 100$ for a single session.
@@evilhutdug4665 i would take it for 20 max
No cannon minions were harmed in the making of this league game.
😂😂😂 the comment I was looking for
What a great attitude as a coach. Watching how you break down faults and focus on improving those faults is amazing. I love these videos.
"I was getting trolled..."
-off to a bad start
"...in Bronze"
-NOOOOOO
i get trolled too, but i admit that it's not every game....although lets be real guys their zed goes 20/0 our zed goes 0/10
@@vincenttran5920 doesn't matter if you win your lane and you have good macro and objective priorities over fighting it doesn't matter
@@PeachiiWubs bro that doesn't matter against zed, that knows his stuff, he will just go in and out and kill u over and over again. the point is that yes u get trolls u get unwinnable games but its not that much that u can't climb. to say that it doesn't matter if u win lane and have good macro, is ignoring the issue that u are facing better people as well.
Ong I had a zed mid that just randomly disconnected and reconnected and didn’t even go back to lane in a tank game 😬 than another game where my shen fed a mord 10 kills by 15mins so yeah I do get trolled pretty often
In Bronze, everyone's trolling and getting trolled lmao. Even if they might not know it
Neace, I really enjoyed that you took someone into a custom to hammer home a few points. You get to highlight specific behaviors, and test for specific behaviors as a coach and the student gets to have repeated practice on the skill you're drilling.
Hopefully more of this content to come with other coachings.
it's been in loads and loads and loads of them? just not the last maybe 4-5 vids
Blaming teammates and buying a boost contradict each other in every way possible
Uhm,... no?
@@derbestimmer1148 yes. You claim that your teammates are holding you back and then you hire someone to go 1v5 your games to climb, which means your teammates are not holding you back
@@korincorinthian mate, no one hires a Bronze Player to boost you out of Bronze.
Ppl hire a Smurf in hope for reaching an Elo bracket where the other Teammates play solid enough so they can win Games with less skill requirement by themselves.
This notion might be entirely correct, but it has some truth to it.
I played every big Moba, and especially the ones with smaller player bases confront you with unmanageable increases in Matchmaking difficulty after a certain amount of climb on your part.
If you do not balance this out with a large amount of games, you go on huge auto loss Streaks where teams are actually holding you back.
Boosting might not be the solution for this, but I think there might not be one at all but actually improving your skill with practice to a level where you are "smurfing" in your own Elo which is hard to do without a proper learning curve.
League is a bit better that e.g. Dota2 because it has more Players MM can work with.
Still I can understand why someone would buy boosting while at the same time not liking the idea of it.
@@coldfire6679 This. Even if you're better than your teammates, if you're not good enough to carry them and win then you still deserve your elo. Obviously there are some games that are just completely unwinnable but if you claim to be that much better than your elo then you should be able to carry bad teams through the majority of games. High elo smurfs stomping through iron - gold with an 80% WR is a pure testament to that fact. People just have massive egos and dont wanna face the truth
I am also amazed at the restraint Neace has lol. If this guy started talking about how self centered these others in chat were I don't think I could hold back reminding him he paid people to boost his act. I can only assume to show others how good "he" was at a video game lol. I guess that is what you have to do to coach people in league. Hold back and focus 100% on helping these scubs even when it kills you hahah. I have even more respect for him after this video lol. I would be so humble if I ever paid a high elo player to coach me bc I know I suck haha.
opeth is old af.
Yes, I'm constantly thinking that I would've lost my shit or gone on long winded rants if I was coaching somebody. Neace identifies the quickest ways to improve the client and stays on target and patient, even if the client is unfocused.
@@fenixx213 I am not sure what your point is. Zepplin is one of my favorite bands as well and they are even older. Music is timeless brother.
@@Opethfan79 see that's why you're hardstuck. lmao. I didn't say anything if it was good or bad. I just said it's very old :D.
@@izzymcgdog7653 he is a coach, he has to go with patience, these players are not good at the game and he knows it, that's why they are paying for a coach. Even if they say shit that makes no sense or whatever, he has to counterpoint logically. They are not paying to get roasted or ranted.
"I'm too focused on getting a lead in lane with Corki because I kinda need to."
On fucking Corki?? How is this guy expecting to play a champ if he doesn't even understand the basic identity of a champion
It is low elo you can get away with anything
As a ranged champ normally u want to get a lead.
So I think he's going off that advice.
Even on lategame scaling vayne u can get a lead and punish people
But for corki/Kayle the advice is different
Usually it's just survive with as much cs as possible
Truly an amazing session: the training for both sides - melee and ranged - was a beautiful demonstration of how the game works when played properly. I'm sure the student learned a lot with this too. Great job, really!!
Hell yeah just when I was going to sleep
Same here man same here
I bought one of these Smurf accounts, just for a fresh start on ranked. Learned my lesson, was stuck in Smurf queue and I got fucked for like a week playing insane players well above my skill level
Yup. Trust me the new smurf quene is hell. You get matched with all smurfs. Sometimes the same people if you play at the same times.
Its like high elo except you have sometimes actual low level players on your team.
Youre not gonna have fun and your teammates are gonna wonder why they ran into terminators above their skill.
I tried levelling a fresh account I think 2-3 years back.
Was lvl 26 but was running into the same people or plats.
Then diamonds.
Riot really weighs the sytem against you if you even get a remotely good winstreak or win rate.
@@richter9485 reason riot does that is because the system is thinking about giving you a high initial rank + potentially a double uprank if you keep it up
@@richter9485 don’t smurf than
@@richter9485 i mean its the start of a season why is that surprising, every1 wants big boost on MMR
I only started playing this game recently(less than 200 hours of expirience) and it feels like after i got 80% winrate this season i get smurfs against me every game in silver. Feels weird then before like silver 1 you stomp and as soon as i reached it i cant do anything and get outplayed but ranks are actualy the same.
Maybe a mental thing cuz for example in csgo if you pop off in 1 game you get called a smurf/cheater. Wonder if it applies to LOL.
Hey NEACE, remember after the TP nerf last patch you made the prediction that Twisted Fate would be a strong pick? Glad you did, started playing him again and sitting at a comfy 70% winrate in ranked (30 games)! Cheers =D
Nice! What runes do you use?
Monster!
@@conflux1934 Electro/Predator, ToB, Eyeball, Ultimate Hunter secondary tree: Dematerializer & Timewarp (usually start w/ Corruption potion)
that Kha Zix was tilted to the moon holy hell
That interlude at 1:46 actually convinced me to subscribe
Watching old man Neace put on a clinic for this guy actually made me laugh out loud. Quality content.
Lol “if your not abusing your range top pick, and your not hitting your cs, then what are you even doing?” I feel that xD
When Riven and Rengar are tower diving you, the correct play is to disable all chat.
Sun Tsu - The Art of War
He could have Just walked to t2 If He wasnt searching in the options
Or cleared the wave so they couldn’t even dive him
"The world isn't flat for you is it?" I love you man.
I used to do alot of boosting, mostly getting people to gold (im mid master peak) I stopped a couple years ago but I been carrying friends and then they shot talk people like they didn't get carried. Makes me smile getting them to gold and watching em int back to silver 😊
Ur name applies to your mindset
Chad moment
I like how League creators are talking about people paying $250 for coaching but nobody talks about guys like this, paying thousands for boosts and getting NOTHING of value in return. They lose the rank eventually, and they don't learn to play.
But coaching is not worth the value to them. Fuck that.
24:57 - Sigma rule #420: Obsess about the cannon minion, even if the drill will end before recall and you are not gonna use that gold.
its meant to be a simulation of a real lane.
Merch idea, Funko Pop Neace.
Have all your alter egos:
Business Neace
Chill Neace
Brainwashing Neace
NEACE held back on a good ass roast at the 13:30 mark. Come on NEACE! I know you wanted to follow it up by “yeah…and then they pay to get boosted which inflates their ego’s even more” lol
People pretending that there isn't a scale of RNG some people have is ignorant. I have had an account where I was d2 and then started another to play only top lane. First 4 games was an intentional feeder and leavers. Literally. 4 our of 10 games is normally a troll on either team.
yooooooooo neace you should defiantly do more one on ones with your students to see how well they got after your lessons that would be pretty chill to watch too!
its actually true that there's trolls in bronze, I went 40 games from bronze 4 to silver 2 on a new acc recently and only had like 6 losses where they straight up ran it down/ said they were purposefully trying to make us lose, there's genuinely people in bronze that get mad their previous games and just want to make everyone misserable, its a thing that happens like every 10 or so games but it does happen
What’s funny is you’ve helped so much with my gameplay just from the TH-cam videos, CLEARLY I’m brainwashed.
I don’t get why I’ve heard memes about NEACE coaching the 2-3 videos I’ve tuned into he comes across as very caring and helpful to players that are willing to listen
Thought it was a bit mean at first but seeing client actually put into practice the ideas you were pressing on him in the 1v1s was cool to see his progress and we didn’t see it all
I love that you're doing some matchup help with this guy. I think that'd be very beneficial for a lot of people especially if they have trouble during laning against some matchups. I know you're showing him the fundamentals of ranged tops, but I'm sure this format would be insanely profitable knowledge for the students.
lately he usually says they don't mean much and too NOT play around matchups, kinda interesting to see him say the opposite here
Anyone who complains about low elo trolls should be asking why they haven't killed their bronze enemy lane multiple times, taken down both towers in lane and become a monster
Because the 7/0 nocturne in minute 10 kept ganking?!
@@NSugga While this may happen occasionally, most games it does not
@@BadgerxSpank True
This guy specifically should ask how the graves wasnt held back by trolls but he was. Just unlucky i guess
@@NSugga and why isn't the "i'm getting trolled" also not 7/0 and smurfing his opponents like the Nocturne?
Dude plays Corki top and say he's getting trolled ?
0:33 the zooming in omg lmao
I loved that reminder to sub at the beginning hahaha it caught me off guard and it totally worked.
today i subscribed you are the first league youtuber i have subscribed in years, its actually insane how good your content is i sky rocketed my elo in 14 days because of how good the educational content is. I have 70 % winrate on my main champ and around 60% wr overall thanks so much I will pay for a sesh after i make some money because of how much more i can learn in a personal sesh. I appreciate you are uploading such a high quality content for free.
This session made me realize that I'm not bullying my opponents nearly enough whenever I play ranged top. I'm gonna try having that mentality every time now. Make every minion cost them HP.
Neace I love your vids just from them I’ve jumped from bronze 3 to gold 3 and I’m so happy I know it’s not a large jump but it’s still a feel good
Bronze 3 to gold 3 is a massive jump for any player.
@@YuYuYuna_ since this comment one stuck plat3
I went from HARD STUCK s4 to hard stuck s1 xD
It's nice that this player was so receptive to coaching. He needs time to improve his mechanics but I see great potential. Also the Corki top pick might be rough for him if he does rank up
It is totally amazing to me that people will pay others to boost their act. Like let me pay you to get me in a rank where people are going to just dumpster me until I am where I should be thanks lol.... Like how delusional are these kids. I am not a high rank. I have peaked at gold the past few years. But I am a dad with other priorities. I don't have the time to play thousands of games and I understand I am bad at the game. I still love the climb and do my best to get better. When I play vs someone who is a great deal better than I am I can tell in the first 5 min of the game and it sucks. Why on earth would I pay a player much better and me to boost me up so I have to face people so much better. Its like you are paying for punishment lol.
In his defense, he managed to stay in gold for 2 seasons after the boost lol
Whoa whoa whoa are discussing things rationally and in context? Lol How many games did he at in those two seasons? Was it 5 or 6 each times?
0:57 This is what everyone who got boosted should hear. Personally, I got boosted from p1 to d4 because I was COMPLETELY done with ranked and the elo, but in the end it was just me being lazy. Currently I'm d1, but it'll always be that ugly spot in my league 'career' or whatever you'd like to call it
I love the custom game setup. When I started playing the game the only thing I did was play 1v1 against my brother, who was gold. Did that every day while playing against bots for maybe a month until I learned a champ and how to farm and lane. When I went online in like bronze, I dominated completely. I only played Akali and I got 25+ kills every game. People thought I was smurfing, this was back in season 4.
There is so much to be learned through 1v1's against someone who is better than you.
Wait, drinking water stops yawning? Best thing I've learned from Neace.
NGL the sped up “trash talking” is what really did it to sub. Thanks for the FrEe CoNtEnT. Remember everybody “You’re a scrub if you’re not subbed”
You know what, you’re right. I will sub. Thanks for the content :)
I mean there is a lot of trolling that happens in Bronze, but statistically the same amount is being done on the enemy team. You just have to play better as you're the only consistent in your team. If you're consistently good, you'll climb.
Neace, you freaked me the fuck out with the "peeping Teemo" bit in the beginning, I legit thought I put the vid speed at 2x🤣
It made me lol honestly when this came up on my screen!
You brainwashed me into playing without lock screen, closing shop with escape, buying pinks, fast tp forward, tight mouse clicks...and on and on
How is this guy playing ranged top and letting riven walk up and farm for free? You were in bronze for a reason bro.
The weird thing is, if you play like that from level 1 you will lose that lane to competent top/jungle pairs. The reason is that winning top as ranged v. melee is *all* about wave management. You want the wave pushing into you, because then you can get it frozen (it's much easier as ranged v. melee, than melee v. melee, let alone as melee v. ranged) and then if they try to shove it in and/or break your freeze then you can do this to them (auto the shit out of them every time they step up). If try to do that from level 1, you will push the wave (because autoing them aggros enemy minions, who are then not attacking your minions for a bit; this asymmetry in damage by minions to other teams minions pushes your lane) and then gift the enemy top a freeze or even if they don't get that, expose yourself nicely to a 3:30-4:00 jungle gank on top lane by the enemy jungle that will then get you killed and give your lane opponent control of the wave (they shove it into tower, back, buy come to lane, it's pushing into them again, rise repeat, you get dicked on in top lane). *Never* push the wave at level 1 as a ranged top. If it has to push (because they are barely even last hitting), slow push it so the wave gets big and you can force the crash easily and then leave (back buy, return in time to prevent counterpush/shove from crashing your tower, get freeze, win lane).
@@Frightning That only matters if the wave is neutral, you auto them, and they don't touch the wave. I get what you are saying, kinda, but op said WHEN she is farming to auto her, not to auto during a neutral wave.
@@LunchMeatTrump My point is that you only do that when her wave is bigger than yours, so that you're effectively blunting her wave's push, while also harassing her, *and* making it harder for her to actually shove the wave in and get it to crash (you should be able to never allow a melee champ to crash the wave against you as a ranged champ if you do this right). At level 1 when the first wave arrives, it is in neutral state, so it is *very* important to be patient and not do this at the start (I see *so* many ranged top players ruin their own because they go 'I can free hit at level 1 and get free dmg in' and then they seed all control of the wave to their opponent and go 0/3 by 12 minutes).
@@Frightning Yea I guess I just don't understand what you are saying. In my mind trying to auto a Riven with a bigger wave results in them flashing on you and killing you. You must just play against bad people and have unknown strats. The strats to this game have already been figured out and given to us for free by tons of challenger and pro players. I guess if you can make that work in your games keep at it, but I wouldn't personally be telling other players to do that same nonsense.
@@LunchMeatTrump You don't let her get a monster wave, need to trim it as it pushes into you, and she doesn't just flash+stun 100-0 you (at least not until pretty late in laning phase and by then you should already have enough of a lead over her to not die to it), you can trade flashes to disengage that and then she's flashless and far from the safety of her tower (ez gank for your jungler). This is about how to manipulate the lane into a winning state (frozen near your tower, where you can constantly hard punish any attempt by your melee opponent to farm) in the first few minutes of the game.
The grim reality of learning pressure Chanps is you have to die trying till you are able to do it.
Same goes for jayce or rengar or whatnot. you have to be able to win hard or your pick is shit.
To be able to do that you have to be riding the line.
lmao , too funny - glad you uploaded this one, i missed the beginning of it over on FB the other day -
Look. I get being frustrated by trolls in bronze. Two games in a row, I got some full blown trolls. First I was Garen top, got a Singed jungle that proxy farmed top lane the whole time, never once killed a jungle camp. Second, I was Malz mid and our Lee Sin jungle came to lane to take farm, dived under enemy tower to get them all, died, repeat. But boosting an account for that? Sure bro.
It's not trolls, it's players who have no idea what they're doing and that's why they're in bronze. You are in bronze so you are one of those players.
The thing is, there is an equal chance of playing with or against that troll. It never works the way that you get many more on your team than on the enemy. It equals itself out in the long run, unless you provoke people into trolling. In Bronze very little is needed to actually turn the game around, because people have no clue. The only thing you need to do is turn off chat and do not let the trolls tilt you and dont carry your anger in between games. Each game is a fresh start and no baggage can be brought in. People cry about bad teams and what not, but they always ignore that they are by no means perfect and they can still improve their gameplay without any regard for the teams they get. For example, I play top lane - I know for sure I can win lane if Im better than the enemy toplaner, even if the jungler sits top, I can win through perfect farm and playing around enemy ganks and dives. I may not be able to influence the rest of the map, but I know I can win the lane at least 70% of games. If that's not the case, then there's LOTS of room to improve.
@@WelsyCZ it’s not even equal, unless you troll yourself the enemy team has a higher chance
@@WelsyCZ it's not equal stop misinforming ppl. do you know what mmr is. it'S an actual reference on how good you are at the game and this shit makes you lose every games after a win streak. cus when you get like a crazy good win streak you get smurfs and stupid shit in your side. I know what im saying i can notice that. first games of placement we're alright and then big papa smurfs hit
my games i wasnt ready for it. cus my yi is already 0/5 at 4:30 of the game and he still blame every one for this. etc etc
Climbing isn't winning every game, it's winning the 20% riding on you. 40% are wins, 40 are losses, 20 are on you.
The best anyone can hope for is 60 40 on average.
Gotta admit i love the rough look on Neace. I reckon he should keep that look. Love the content. Please do a video on Zeri, love playing her and she mega fun for adc.
as someone who seen alot of trolls in ranked and has trolled a few him self i can tell you we are real sir
"dont waste my time, press esc" gets guy killed "that was going to happen any ways" lol
Good video. I feel like he learned a lot from your 1-on-1 sesssion. Probably opened his eyes a bit.
Glad to see a range top bc it gives me some tips on playing gnar
i really notice this kind of pressure in lower elo, i just played vs a darius as malz in silver2 and he tilted because he couldn't understand spacing and telled every time jung was near even out played and got a double due to their greed. i just started playing last season after 8 years off the game and its so much more complex than it originally was viewed and i do enjoy that. Promos done time to beat gold 2 peak of 50 games in s11 only playing malz lol.
What people don't get is - yes, you get trolls, but the enemies are also a bunch of trollers. Be the only normal human and you'll win
Interesting fairy tale
@@joshuacox5817 it's just true.. Up to diamond 2 every team has a 90% chance to have full monkeys 😂
@@keishirok3507 so you agree that its ridiculous to expect anyone to play 2 ranks above what they are to win a game and carry the feeders.
@@joshuacox5817 I agree that it's hard to always be 2 elos above. But if yoh are in like bronze, it's pretty easy because the learning curve will be much steeper. You can easily outclass bronze players by 2 elos by having the fundamentals down better than them. This will of course stagnate as you go higher, but it is possible nontheless
@@keishirok3507 I duo with a former plat player. I'm not climbing. I had a friend in gold try to boost me, his winrate wasn't that high. Massive cope.
My stance on trolls is there is a 20 percent less chance of a troll on my team because I don't plan on trolling. Which if I'm better than my rank means in a 3 game streak I may see trolls but if I play 20 games and never win streak it's on me.
Yea got me with the subscribe Neace in super speed!! 🥰 love the content keep it coming.
Man this guy is becoming one of the best coaches in league. Happy to see him succeed.
I got so scared when another version of you showed up on the video lmfao, it did however make me sub and like
@1:48 was not expecting that edit
What about a "neace forced me to buy this t-shirt" tshirt
I mean to be fair though, climbing out of low elo can be sometimes annoying. You can be the only one winning lane and carrying, yet lose the game at the expense of your teammates. Not saying it's impossible, but his wording of "troll" definitely threw his argument out of the gutter.
The issue is, if you think you are better than your rank, you should rarely have issues carrying games in that elo, elsewise how are you going to carry against better enemies.
@@jordanbauerly8843 but ultimately this is a stupid argument because you essientially have to be playing two ranks above what you are to carry a game in bronze, and even then you won't successful.
ok so what happens in high elo when your the only one winning lane? kind of a dumb argument.
@@rotaryking100 I'm talking in the context of playing in low elo and you are playing "higher" than average compared to your teammates. Not really a "dumb argument" if you can't get the context.
Climbing out of low elo is so taxing especially if your stuck there bc your placement games went to shit
Neace claims you probably can't play ranged top but he's yet to see the forbidden technology of, grasp full tank karma top 😉
That jump scare holy fuck
Dude great job working form the ground up with thos guy! Love it!
“NOOOOOOO NO NO NOOOOO”😂
"Nooooooooo!!" Lmao
How Much is coaching session?
Being 100%, This season I got slotted Iron while trying to ADC, I've always been a High Bronze // Low Silver player. 68% Win-rate in the Jungle just finding champs that click with me and my playstyle. Getting out of Bronze is 90% just playing games and learning what works in that Elo.. I got I2 to B3 in a day or so just because I realized I-B Players don't build Grevious vs champs that heal a shit load, so I just go full LS Trundle and win 65%ish of my games.. They also don't build well Vs tanks, so Sejuani is my pocket pick.
Cool story. Must be nice.
@@joshuacox5817 Clown 😂😂😂😂😂
"stop being a peeping teemo."
but... I am a teemo main. ;w;
Neace I think you forgot to mention an important part of playing ranged top laners which is you can't do what you did to garen because there junglers gonna be camping him, So you need to pressure at the right time not just perma pressure
i watch so much neace and hes always on my youtube i didn t realise im not subt
Hey , I gotta ask , when do I use cull ? And how to to use it , never actually bought it and want to know . It would be great if u coach a shaco jg! I would like yo see in low elo.
I remember when I too thought I couldn't climb out of bronze because of just trolls. Then I realized I just sucked at jungling and went to top lane
Buddy losers queue is very very real. You aren't as good as you think you are not because you got better, you got better match ups.
@@joshuacox5817 lmao spoken like a true hard stuck silver
@@mawgwi2893 we get it. You started a new account.
@@joshuacox5817 Nope still playing the same account that I started in Season 10 when I first began to play. It's ok maybe one day you'll get out of that losers queue or maybe you'll get a coaching session and Neace can tell you all the shit you're doing wrong to get out of silver. That's pretty unnecessary though, his free YT content is enough to get you out of pisslow if you actually listen to what he's telling people and put it into practice in your own games.
@@mawgwi2893 BS. Team feeds. Its obvious too.
10:32 game chat ... LOL
Fast Neace telling me to subscribe scared me so much
meme idea: Neece sucked out my brain and made me a better player help me. picture maybe dorky anime character holding their head with both hands
How this dude wasnt poking the shit out of Cho' with Corki baffles me...
bro i know neace says that people dont get trolled often but i have actual proof that more than half my games are decided by trolls !!
best part was when chat was turned off
12:46
best advice anyone can get to become better
This might be a stupid question but, Why would turning chat off be a good choice other then toxicity what does it give?
This dude had 90 cs @ 20 min and he thought his teammates were the reason he was losing XD
I play Jax and Tryndamre.
Ok, I don't understand something about minion waves.
You have built a big wave and crashed it.
Is it okay when the enemy champion is building a big wave and haven't crashed to take enemy jungle camps or scuttle?
And come back only when the wave crashes or is better to be in the lane when he is building a big wave to not miss XP?
I think you stay in range of the creeps for exp and try to steal what you can fro the wave without engaging in hard trades (bc the huge minion wave will aggro you).
But if you see an opportunity to get a camp or a skirmish go for it but comeback alive to collect the wave, yes.
Edit: the biggest mistake lies on losing the crashing wave wether because you die on a skirmish or recall or something.
Ofc this is situational. There are matchups where you don't want your enemy to crash and have free time to roam.
@@PeasantForADay Thank you!
Theoreticaly, you can do that, but practically the enemy will clear the wave instantly as soon as they see you are missing. Getting into enemy jungle takes a lot of time. What I usually do is go take a honey flower from the river, ward inside my jungle to see a dive coming or maybe take scuttle (although thats somewhat risky if you dont know where enemy mid/jgl are. There's nothing wrong with just soaking XP from a bush and stealing a little cs here and there. What you must understand is - when you see a big wave, it means a potential dive and you must keep your health high. Taking poke is out of question, because if you lose enough health, you either back and lose the wave or you die and lose the wave too.
Low elo is full of people who play Teemo cause they think it’s “easy” and try to cheat lanes and I destroy them every time.
"Everything they do is perfect and everything else is shitty"
I think his prblem is hes not using attack move so he keeps basically kissing you before he autos.
That thing on khazix happened to me on Evelyn, where the thing that indicates whether or not the enemy sees you never came off. So all game I showed that the adc or anyone else sees me even Though they don't when I'm on the other side of the map. Checked every bush and no wards that would show that they see me at all. The game seems to have a lot of bugs this season
it's apparently fixed in newest patch
@@150Mewtwo its not fixed. I main eve and I get that issue everytime but I still know my distance and where in the circle they can be before seeing me.
corki TOP player talking about TROLLS, oh the irony
I love the start here xD Got me laughing so hard
yo fuck, that little blurb at like 1:55 100% made me like and sub. I laughed so hard
great sesh.
may the algorithm be in your favor ever neace.
Khazix at 3:39 lmaoo
Love ya Neace I’m gonna buy your coaching one day when I save up 🤗
Damn, I really thought I was subscribed but I got a reality check too.