And this is why Blizzard can't win... they did season 4, and people were upset and wanted a "downtime." So they took it out, and now because there is nothing new people going to complain, there's nothing to do and un sub.
Blizzard cant shorten the seasons to be honest with their event schedule. First 4 weeks are road to worldfirst raiding + recovery break, then time trials for MDI and the 4cup + finals schedule for AWC and MDI thats another 10 weeks in so you are already at around 16 weeks (=4 months) without TGP which takes atleast another 4 weeks and like a break of 1-2 weeks between MDI finals and TGP so thats already roughtly 5 months just to get all events done and there is no way to overlap any of that cause the high performer in RWF, MDI and TGP are usually the same people. And since the new raid faction needs 20 weeks to level up we have 2 big reasons to expect a 5-6 months season again
back in WoW history when my guild finished raid progression (vanilla, TBC etc etc) we would have RL events and meet ups. Players now a days seem like crazy drug addicts telling their dealer if shit don't arrive faster I'm going to quit.
The fated seasons are the most fun season to me. That could change with them adding dinar to season 2 and so many other quality of life changes but previously fated was the best. It had the highest level of content and was the most alt friendly.
I would say on target. 6 month seasons then a new expansion when the 3rd one ends. It’s a nice pacing. Maybe a shorter s3 and have a blast s4. Maybe use that season as a test for new m+ ideas
I think the seasons are just right. If you no-life one or two characters and only play one game mode then it seems too long. But when i started playing other game modes and alts I wished i had more time. I'm the kind of player that avoids other modes/alts until i get bored, then i force myself to play something new always enjoy it. Don't get stuck in a rut.
Same here. I use the lull period to do side stuff. I like having a little bit of a break to do stuff like collecting, achievements, pets, and right now Plunderstorm.
Can't expect an MMO to be made for one character andys that constantly want new things. Most people wouldn't keep up at all. It's good as is, if people want to focus on one thing and hardcore nolife it, that's their decision
Season 1 already felt way too long tbqh mostly because it just hasn't been enjoyable. 6 months would be fine if it was good and enjoyable content but if they keep things close to how they are I'm pretty concerned.
I barely could play any alt, i was too stuck trying to grind with DiscOracle to 2912rio! Level few alts to 80 did few 6' keys on them saw how tedious it was to catchup and never played them ever again. Played some PvP with the Priest for two days got 1700rating and just stopped, i am utterly burnt out, even 1 year of Legion farming everyday AP was less tiring..........
Almost my entire guild have been bored of the raid and stopped needing anything from M+ since start to middle of December and we are by no means fast compared to high end guilds
Same here. I think thats a good thing to be honest. Now, lots of our guldies have had time to get keystone hero - I for the first time ever did it on multiple characters. We have had time to get the mounts we want, and even try POE2.
We're talking about blizzard. Right now, 11.1 doesn't look hype. Everything look like a mess. Aug is mostly gutted, balance in specs is shit etc etc. Thinking blizzard is somehow going make a turnaround is a dream.
6 months is too long for new raid and to progress the main story line, it needs to be shorter. This notion of release the game and then wait untill season 1 starts formula needs to be adjusted. I am 100% confident that they could shave 1 month off and still continue with the release of stuff like the aniversery event and the lack luster sirens isle content that they did.
The only people complaining about too slow patches are the casuals that are only hyped for the game for one month every time there is something new to do. They level new class, complete quests and clear raid on lfr and then quits the game for a year. Thanks to them people staying in the game trying to play it get rushed bugged content and new classes that nobody needs which only give us worse and worse balance every expansion. Every standard wow player are happy about the time when the raid is already cleared and he have this few weeks when he can chill in the game doing whatever he wants.
This was my first season and i came from a different mmo and it baffles me how little there is to do in the game (from my perspective you do delves til m+ and m+ til heroic raid is done) I know there’s crafting but that’s not content.
tnx for another good video izen .bro I dont trust anyone but you .can u make a dps tier list for next patch . I checked so many website but they predictions are not clear .can u do that plz ❤
Yea, too long by definition would mean a lot of people left. I still have some friends that play, but I see them running the same dungeons that they've ran dozens and dozens of times for months for essentially no gear upgrades beyond a couple more io. The game doesn't have any lasting power right now. It's all just one big ilv hamster wheel where each patch makes the patche's gear obsolete. Hopefully there's a lot more to work towards, unlock, and overall do when housing gets to the game. I got the m+ keystone achievements, ahead of the curve raid achievement, and the anniversary transmog back like in Nov. and stopped after that.
If they're gonna do a season 4 it needs to be like Shadowlands and not like Dragonflight's. In Shadowlands we got 6 recycled dungeons from previous expansions, playing characters with new builds and a new seasonal affix and the dungeons felt very fresh at the time. Dragonflight recycled the same 8 dungeons we had just done two and three season prior with no seasonal affix with the same talents and builds we were used to and it was very stale. I want to slap all the youtubers and streamers that were saying they were fine with recycling the same dungeons from the same expansion. Like don't encourage Blizz to be that lazy!
Never going to happen because the constant rerolling to meta chase helps player engagement and keeps people having to restart the already very time consuming loot race.
simple answer - quality over quantity. I'd rather wait 6 months and enjoy my time instead of being forced to beta test while paying copious amounts of money monthly to play this game.
WoW players need to start playing other games or get another hobby. The game is bugged enough as is, I can't imagine what it would look like if they speed up the production.
If they did a better job of catch up gear for alts i wouldnt lose interest so quickly but right now if you didnt keep up with alts from week 1 its like making a whole new character grinding gilded and waiting for vaults. If you have multiple alts you pretty much need to no life the game to keep up or be in a guild that reclears mythic raid every week which probably will not be the case for 99.9 percent of people.
Blizzard realistic need to move it to a 4 month cycle. Ideally I would want a 3 month, because for myself only I'm usually done with a raid by the second month.
I think it is more that people assumed the expansion is supposed to shorter then before. So people are now wondering if the patches after the one we are in now will be shorter
Too long. I’m obsessed with M+ and been 639/640 for 3 weeks BIS gear, io 3175 where normally I’d want to push right to the end of the season… and I honestly cannot be assed anymore. 4-6 weeks too long
do they really expect us to do the same raid and same dungeons for 6 months when the game is literally just endgame? Nah man i quit mid december
It seems like blizzard will only be putting out two raids per xpansion . Isn’t the next xpac this summer?
@@arshaadc4215 No no, the expansion reveal is this summer. I'm guessing about a year from now.
@@arshaadc4215 no
And this is why Blizzard can't win... they did season 4, and people were upset and wanted a "downtime." So they took it out, and now because there is nothing new people going to complain, there's nothing to do and un sub.
Yeah 6 months is too long. I also got burnt out mid December as well as multiple guildies leading to full guild break til s2
I do believe they will drop season 4 and we gonna have 3x 6m expansions in this saga
Blizzard cant shorten the seasons to be honest with their event schedule. First 4 weeks are road to worldfirst raiding + recovery break, then time trials for MDI and the 4cup + finals schedule for AWC and MDI thats another 10 weeks in so you are already at around 16 weeks (=4 months) without TGP which takes atleast another 4 weeks and like a break of 1-2 weeks between MDI finals and TGP so thats already roughtly 5 months just to get all events done and there is no way to overlap any of that cause the high performer in RWF, MDI and TGP are usually the same people. And since the new raid faction needs 20 weeks to level up we have 2 big reasons to expect a 5-6 months season again
back in WoW history when my guild finished raid progression (vanilla, TBC etc etc) we would have RL events and meet ups. Players now a days seem like crazy drug addicts telling their dealer if shit don't arrive faster I'm going to quit.
The game have so many things to do, but if the new season don't start soon they quit
The fated seasons are the most fun season to me. That could change with them adding dinar to season 2 and so many other quality of life changes but previously fated was the best. It had the highest level of content and was the most alt friendly.
I would say on target. 6 month seasons then a new expansion when the 3rd one ends. It’s a nice pacing. Maybe a shorter s3 and have a blast s4. Maybe use that season as a test for new m+ ideas
The season is getting a bit long in the tooth for me. But could be because we stopped progress already so I have no goals in game.
December is very much winter. Lol
Technically, winter officially starts December 21st, he said it launched on the 17th, semantics 🤷♂️
@ since time immemorial the winter months are December, January and February.
I think the seasons are just right. If you no-life one or two characters and only play one game mode then it seems too long. But when i started playing other game modes and alts I wished i had more time. I'm the kind of player that avoids other modes/alts until i get bored, then i force myself to play something new always enjoy it. Don't get stuck in a rut.
Same here. I use the lull period to do side stuff. I like having a little bit of a break to do stuff like collecting, achievements, pets, and right now Plunderstorm.
Well I don't like doing same content again on another char , seems boring also I don't have time to do that
I'll gear two chars at a time. If I dont get to them all, it's ok. It gives me reasons to play every week.
@@alimoaveni2465then play while it's fun, and take a break when it's not. Are you soft in the head?
Can't expect an MMO to be made for one character andys that constantly want new things. Most people wouldn't keep up at all. It's good as is, if people want to focus on one thing and hardcore nolife it, that's their decision
Season 1 already felt way too long tbqh mostly because it just hasn't been enjoyable. 6 months would be fine if it was good and enjoyable content but if they keep things close to how they are I'm pretty concerned.
How the heck winter is not winter?
Imo patch length was just right. Yea the raid and m+ is a bit stale but that’s okay because it should if you play everyday in a season.
Season is way too long in my opinion. I quit about a month and a half ago.
It's as long as it has always been. It just seems longer because it's a garbage season and everyone already quit 2 months in
@@Millennium2696 lol, that's hilarious
I barely could play any alt, i was too stuck trying to grind with DiscOracle to 2912rio!
Level few alts to 80 did few 6' keys on them saw how tedious it was to catchup and never played them ever again.
Played some PvP with the Priest for two days got 1700rating and just stopped, i am utterly burnt out, even 1 year of Legion farming everyday AP was less tiring..........
Bro Legion was the GOAT hands down
Almost my entire guild have been bored of the raid and stopped needing anything from M+ since start to middle of December and we are by no means fast compared to high end guilds
Same here. I think thats a good thing to be honest. Now, lots of our guldies have had time to get keystone hero - I for the first time ever did it on multiple characters. We have had time to get the mounts we want, and even try POE2.
We're talking about blizzard. Right now, 11.1 doesn't look hype. Everything look like a mess. Aug is mostly gutted, balance in specs is shit etc etc. Thinking blizzard is somehow going make a turnaround is a dream.
6 months is too long for new raid and to progress the main story line, it needs to be shorter. This notion of release the game and then wait untill season 1 starts formula needs to be adjusted. I am 100% confident that they could shave 1 month off and still continue with the release of stuff like the aniversery event and the lack luster sirens isle content that they did.
i feel like it´s more a Quality issue than a Quantity Issue currently....
The only people complaining about too slow patches are the casuals that are only hyped for the game for one month every time there is something new to do. They level new class, complete quests and clear raid on lfr and then quits the game for a year. Thanks to them people staying in the game trying to play it get rushed bugged content and new classes that nobody needs which only give us worse and worse balance every expansion.
Every standard wow player are happy about the time when the raid is already cleared and he have this few weeks when he can chill in the game doing whatever he wants.
Getting 2 classes to 3k RIo indeed is too much and it just seems like the Season 2 is still months off...
There won't be any more "fated seasons"
Sucks because I love fated seasons, getting all your bis with dinars or tokens was amazing
maybe no s4?
This was my first season and i came from a different mmo and it baffles me how little there is to do in the game (from my perspective you do delves til m+ and m+ til heroic raid is done) I know there’s crafting but that’s not content.
Many different mmos does not even have that though.
Many mmos only really have pvp at the end game
Go from 3 months to 6 months on seasons are because of one reason only. Same
money for less work
tnx for another good video izen .bro I dont trust anyone but you .can u make a dps tier list for next patch . I checked so many website but they predictions are not clear .can u do that plz ❤
Give it 2 weeks bro, we'll have a clearer idea of who the pumpaz are
I don’t think people know what a meme actually is
Way to long, or they should tune something. Horrible for some specs they never get any invite in keys ….
Too long? I quit playing months ago due to boredom.
Yea, too long by definition would mean a lot of people left. I still have some friends that play, but I see them running the same dungeons that they've ran dozens and dozens of times for months for essentially no gear upgrades beyond a couple more io.
The game doesn't have any lasting power right now. It's all just one big ilv hamster wheel where each patch makes the patche's gear obsolete. Hopefully there's a lot more to work towards, unlock, and overall do when housing gets to the game.
I got the m+ keystone achievements, ahead of the curve raid achievement, and the anniversary transmog back like in Nov. and stopped after that.
@@Ditronus. that's addiction on their end more than anything.
If they're gonna do a season 4 it needs to be like Shadowlands and not like Dragonflight's.
In Shadowlands we got 6 recycled dungeons from previous expansions, playing characters with new builds and a new seasonal affix and the dungeons felt very fresh at the time. Dragonflight recycled the same 8 dungeons we had just done two and three season prior with no seasonal affix with the same talents and builds we were used to and it was very stale.
I want to slap all the youtubers and streamers that were saying they were fine with recycling the same dungeons from the same expansion. Like don't encourage Blizz to be that lazy!
already quit. I'll come back a few months every 5-6 years. Maybe.
All I want is decent class balancing…seems too much to ask lol
Never going to happen because the constant rerolling to meta chase helps player engagement and keeps people having to restart the already very time consuming loot race.
5 weeks (ish) too long imo so release date was issue really
l think we are getting scammed.
simple answer - quality over quantity. I'd rather wait 6 months and enjoy my time instead of being forced to beta test while paying copious amounts of money monthly to play this game.
Sadly the expansion didn't even launch with quality. It's one of the buggiest patches we've ever had.
im a pessimist
WoW players need to start playing other games or get another hobby. The game is bugged enough as is, I can't imagine what it would look like if they speed up the production.
If they did a better job of catch up gear for alts i wouldnt lose interest so quickly but right now if you didnt keep up with alts from week 1 its like making a whole new character grinding gilded and waiting for vaults. If you have multiple alts you pretty much need to no life the game to keep up or be in a guild that reclears mythic raid every week which probably will not be the case for 99.9 percent of people.
Way too long
Blizzard realistic need to move it to a 4 month cycle. Ideally I would want a 3 month, because for myself only I'm usually done with a raid by the second month.
Hmmm, Blizzard designing a brand-new Raid every three months aye? Not gonna happen.
fated existed becaouse shadowllands and dragonflight had 1 raid cut each
They said that season 4 did not cut any plans for a raid.
This is not true?
Way too long.
6 months has always been the standard. those who want shorter seasons should probably play other games. an arpg maybe
Yeah I've got a job and it's hard to play for more and 2 or 3 hours
I think it is more that people assumed the expansion is supposed to shorter then before.
So people are now wondering if the patches after the one we are in now will be shorter
I’m actually almost missing Shadowlands right now… I said almost. 😖
Too long. I’m obsessed with M+ and been 639/640 for 3 weeks BIS gear, io 3175 where normally I’d want to push right to the end of the season… and I honestly cannot be assed anymore. 4-6 weeks too long
yeah great thats you.. try to do something else than just one little part of game.
4 months needs to be the cadence