@@larryjohns8823 my comment was not intended as a slide against Ryobi, but to mock his statement that his hammer was a “man’s hammer” when he drove the nail through a hole that was already drilled out
@@gonova8412professional carpenters don't need them unless it's thin hardwood. I can hit one in on an angle without a pilot hole and I'm a damn forklift driver with a few years in construction.
anyone with experience like this man has knows that hemlock splits when nailing, not like the pine we used to use back in the day. this guy realises this and makes a pilot hole .he is a quality carpenter that knows his stuff.
needed to be said, all these clowns with nail guns and zero experience. i've had decades of experience roofing, forgot more than they will ever know. still sharpen my saws and use a hammer. old school. even use the ready reckoner, haha.gives you all the cuts, as i'm sure you already know.@@BuildingwithBudd
Ready reckoner what a superb bit of kit, I was looking on eBay the others day and the exact same book I have is about £200 it’s not printed in this version anymore, I was shocked, 👏👏👍
christ, i still have mine somewhere, the one with a blue cover. still has my protractor in it. when yer roofin regular , it's a must have bit of kit. gives you all your diminishing lengths of rafters, every cut, different length rafters for different centres. best job in the world in the summer months. my old mate was a brilliant roofer, he would cut a complete roof in the shed. he only needed to know the plate measurements. i had to do all the cutting as i was neat, he had massive hands so was a bit ham fisted. those were the days,@@BuildingwithBudd
Come on now even with a pre-drilled hole they would be handicapped having to use a 16oz trim hammer like the one used in the video. Old school carpenter my ass
Lol I love how you're such a repressed homosexual you feel the need to bring it up randomly, it's ok to be gay James, you don't need to pretend anymore it's 2023
And please stop pretending you don't have office pansy hands, doubt you've ever held a hammer considering you don't know how to prevent splitting in a bird's mouth, take some time from doing your nails and drive one into a piece of wood instead and you'd know better than to open your mouth
@@burninrubba65every singo3 builder in the uk has one of these. They may have other hammers for heavier work but as we don't use timber framing for structural work most of the time this tends to be fine.
Nice to hear. I have the same one too. I got it at a yard sale for a buck. I said to the guy..."It's an Estwing." He says, nice guy by the way, "Yeah but its got rust all over it." I'll probably give it to some young guy on a limited budget. You owe me a cup of coffee.
@@User-yy6xt it's ok to never have done framing. Just don't pretend. Even if you did pilot holes almost anywhere in framing look at the grain orientation, where do you think it's gonna split??
When I was 18 I got my first full time job as a home rough framer, the boss walked us into Lowes or home depot, don’t remember which but he gave us a draw on our checks to buy bags, pencil, speed square and a hammer. I picked up a hammer and said this will work.. he laughed saying you need a man’s hammer as picked up a 32 ounce framer. That afternoon my first job was to hand pound 16’s in hurricane ties.
hate the term "rough framming " framing should be done right with clean details. Rough framing makes it hard on every tradesman after your "rough framming "
@@zanaevans7403 you are probably not from America friend. Here we separate the two trades in names only. It’s not a term that means bad quality. I am actually a very good framer. “Rough Framing” is the main structure, while “finish” carpentry is simply that, to finish. Base board, door and window trim, shelving etc. both are important to have high quality.
Almost it's Vermont. 50 something year old carpenter who has seen to much to be impressed by any one thing. For the most part I work alone, then I know it's done right. Call me jaded, but no one seems to take pride in there work anymore. They just want a big pay day. Sacrificing quality for fast cash. At least this guy took the time to predrill the rafter so the toenail won't spilt heel of the rafter. What I build is my legacy, quilty will never be compromised on my jobs. Sorry for calling out rough framers. I do it all foundation to finish. There's my rant.
@@zanaevans7403 no worries, I appreciate you explaining more, and you are right, it seems like our country has lost the self respect and commitment to many principles. Or at least people like you and I are getting harder to find. I retired as a building contractor about 5 years ago and i am disappointed a bit with the quality of workers and their work ethic that I’ve seen over the years and more often. It’s a different world now. Thank you for being a good example and doing things right. You can give the next generation a chance if they are willing to work hard and can remain teachable. All your years of knowledge and experience will be appreciated by the right kids. Good luck my friend!
@@aliceullrish5251 Alice? This might be a little sexist to some people but the numbers don't lie, are you a carpenter? I have a little more than a decade of experience but it didn't take me that long to know how wood works. Especially the cheap framing material that is used today.
Don’t let this distract you from the fact that Hector is going to be running three Honda civics with spoon engines, and on top of that, he just went into Harry’s and bought three t66 turbos with nos, and a motec exhaust system.
@@jamesmatheson5115 we were required to do it bc all of the lumber was kiln dried and toe nails were splitting the ends. We had to hand drive. Fuckin painstaking.
i just wondered... can he still use his hands today? i dunno if u realize, that is fine when u r young, but u will def wreck some fingers tryin to b like that. i've seen it 2 many times. an old school roofer, for sure. a framer, lol. my brother was a roofer, and back when short nails were common, he put a hurting on his finger joints. just simple physics, statistics, and complacency. don't try to be that guy, pls
A hammer w/wooden handle takes much of the shock of hammering & could keep you from getting carpal tunnel. Learned that from an old carpenter cured my friends numb hand.
@jamesduke4957 it was a fiberglass hammer that made my friends hands numb. A 56 yr old carpenter in a drs waiting room told him to switch, it cured him
never liked the estwings i always thought them unsafe with that narrow shank and just a bit pricey to boot. came off the bench and got a Stanley 20oz for the transition and i was fine with that for years. spotted an estwing 20oz for silly money one day and figured why not, got it home and grabbed a handful of 4" and 6" nails and a bit of scrapwood and set about knocking them in. could not for the Life of me drive one home without leaving a half crown on it so i binned it to the back of the shed and forgot about it. i was teamed up with this one dude for years in the end but this happened early on. i knew he was qualified but he surely had some massive gaps in his skills, didn't know how to properly hold a hand saw for one and yet his workmanship was far better than almost every 'time served' man i ever saw on site so i had no problem with him at the end of the day. we were studding down in Newquay this one job and he asked to borrow my Stanley so i gave it to him, should have watched him with it, and turned back to what i was doing (on price we had the paslodes out) i cringed when i heard it, he only wanted to use mine to hit his face on to try and pull a tricky nail i very nearly snapped. of course his hammer was fine but mine was chipped so that was that in the skip. that was on a Monday and so as we were first fixing on price i didn't bother buying another over the counter or should i say letting him pay for it instead i told him wait and i brought out the estwing to be going on with. by the end of the first day with it i wasn't marking the timber anymore, even giving the nail that extra tap to punch it just below the surface without crowning the timber so that was me on estwings. that's got to be almost 30 years ago now and it must be 15 since i traded up to the 24oz "English pattern" hammer and enjoyed that even more. traded up again not long after to a 24oz framing hammer and i haven't looked back since. the straight claw and longer shaft is like the brass backing on a tenon saw when doing some tasks with it. seriously lads i would defo recommend them, i even use it glazing just for s***s and giggles.
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@@mattredfern1339 Great, I am now officially 30 years older because I foolishly decided to read your entire comment.
He even pronounced Estwing like every other pro carpenter I've seen in all my years in the trades. We never say estwing. We always say Eastwing like God intended.
Had a Eastwing in my kit back when I was an apprentice,it was a gift from my stepdads father!very rare with a red handle in my 3rd yr, Robert the other 3rd yr pinched it off me the bastard... always taking of the aborigines
Now, let us all be a little generous. The feller did hit that nail nice and squarely, like he had done it many times before. Maybe he just never heard of a Framing Hammer. Been framing all these years with a Finish Hammer. That's kinda badass.
I mean honestly a hammer is a hammer i can drive a nail with my 3 pound mallet if i wanted, a 24oz a 20oz hell even a 16 oz doesnt really make a difference its a hammer
@@plack_benis382If you're driving a few dozen nails at a time. If youre driving 4" galvanized all day every day, you need some heavy lumber and a waffle face. Look how many swings he took with that framing hammer with a pilot hole even.
Obviously he pre-drilled a hole for the nail, but nobody is mentioning that the hammer he is using is a trim hammer, not a framing hammer. Would get laughed at if I showed up to frame with that little thing
We don't work this way in the uk. The terms trim and framing arnt used. We say first and second fix. Generally if you do the first fix on site you have to do the second as well. We also don't do much if any structural framing beyond roofs so most people do not have the larger framing hammers
@@jamesn0va English here. picked up a 24oz framing hammer with the longer shank and the straight claw years ago for a site hammer, haven't put it down since in fact i still use it when i go on the odd excursion back into the workshop. first fix or second fix makes no odds to i which tapometer i'm picking up. being from a bench background and with plenty of time on yachts since moving to Cornwall 25 years ago i'm known for quality finish work, the decorators Love i, i usually outpace most down here second fixing on price with no drop in workmanship too btw. oh yh and You should see the foreman's face when i glaze with it! rofl Love it i do.
you call that a trim hammer? obviously you don't know much about trim carpentry or hammers. as a carpenter with 52 years of experience I can say with certainty that a trim hammer doesn't need to be heaver than 13 oz and a framing hammer more than 20. oh and by the way, framing guns are the worst thing ever introduced into the industry.
Lol, come on 'man'. That's a finish hammer. We use that for light work like hanging siding, nailing trim, or anything that requires actual nails. What you're using is called a spike (4"+). If you'd chosen an Estwing framing hammer with some proper weight for the framing work that you're doing, and blunt the tip on the head of your last spike, then you wouldn't need to waste time drilling a pilot hole to help it through without swinging for 5 minutes just to split the heel (that pilot hole is eliminating half the pressure that helps keep that spike from working out over time, too). The lumber doesn't care what gender you think the hammer was made for. You should only need 2 or 3 swings to drive it home, and the hammer should be doing most of the work, all you have to do is lift and aim it. Use the right tool for the job, bud. You're not just making the structure weaker, but you're taking a lot longer to build it. We'd have to have a little chat if I caught you doing any of this on my site.
And once you proceed to your second "site" you will realise there are as many plurals in english grammar as there are clowns in the building trade, as you have proved their existence!
A mate was building a major extension onto his home and he was doing about 60% of the labor himself.He had arranged for the truss roof to be delivered & installed by the contractor and they arrived to start to install the roof and just as he was leaving to go to work he noticed several workers were driving away in their cars and he asked the boss what was going on and he stated that they just realised that the compressor was bust so they couldn’t install the trusses and they’d come back another time. He asked what is wrong with using a hammer etc. to which he replied oh we’ve never done it that way before.SMH !
@@jimmurphy5739 swear I found some of the old videos of him doing his thing a fair few years back and can't lie he was an absolute madman ain't no way on this earth I'd ever take up his trade of steeple jacking because I'd have absolutely shat my pants as soon as I got even a fraction of the way up
If you look a little closer it’s to allow for the plate being not as wide as the brickwork, if you don’t snip that bit out it won’t sit on the wall plate properly, but I guess that’s just me knowing my job, cheers for watching 👍
The brickwork is proud of the wallplate and that timber is likely going to be covered with a soffit anyway. Stick to your timber framed shit houses with felt for roofing and OSB Shell. 😂
Kinda makes me wish I had predrilled holes in the houses we built. Maybe then I would have use a hammer smaller than the 24 Oz california framer used. Will say, using that all day gave ya one hell of a forearm.🙂
@@jimbusmaximus4624what about what it would look like in 15 seconds if you didn't pre drill. It would split right down the grain at the worst spot right at the birds mouth. You'll learn by the time you transition from apprentice to an actual carpenter.
@@jimbusmaximus4624 few things to point out to you here: no because I don't know about you (or the "we" you are talking about) but I along with any other some what decent carpenter are going to use either a battery framer or air compressor and framer. So no need for the pilot hole as long as you know how to properly use one and know where and how to make sure it doesn't split. Hand banging a nail is like using screws, it's going to split most of the time when it's done on the grain and near the edge of the 2 by which it will be at the birds mouth. Next I never did say that you have to do this for every nail along a rafter or ceiling joist. Just that specific area of the birds mouth that is very prone to splitting, which is very important that it doesn't split considering how all the weight of the roof is bearing right on that small area. Also it doesn't involve ceiling joists like you said because they don't have birds mouths because they lay flat across the top plate. Might want to think twice before spouting off nonsense on the internet to a stranger that you have no idea about because they might know quite a bit more about the subject then you do which will make you look like an ignorant child. So yeah, I have spent about the same amount of time on a worksite that you have spent trying to talk about shit rather than doing it.
If You Pilot hole Like That, You’ve Weakened The Grip Of The Nail Big Time only The Tip and Head Are Holding, The Shaft Of The Nail is Doing Nothing it Should be Gripping and It’s Not.
@@brettwatts3601 Agree. When I did cut roofs, and even trusses, we just drove the nail straight in, and splitting was never a problem... I just thought he was going to demonstrate it in this video.
Predrilled creates a tighter connection between the two pieces of wood. Its not to make it easier to hit. It also ensure the nail follows the best angle rather than diverting with the grain.
@@markdudley1028 Im not saying it should be done in industry, just that the nail only has to be tight in the piece that you attaching to for a strong fix.
I did my whole basement that way, and yeah I predrilled too. Toe nailing without predrilling would often cause the wood to crack. I don't know if I'm mad enough to actually do that again. I bought a framing nailer since then.
After cracking a knuckle or two with those estwings I went back to wood. 28 oz. Vaughn on an 18 inch oak handle. I never had to tell a neil three times or pilot the holes first.
Was fetcher carrier for an gent of an old school carpenter. This is spot on technique. We used five inch galvanised nails dove tailed into the spars. You have to pre drill on 4 by 2 to stop the splitting . Then finish with a nail punch. The roof is going nowhere. Only upgrade I used was a 20oz hammer with a shock reducer shaft in the handle. Stops the joints from coming apart in your arm over time lol. But the eswing hammers are the pro choice for price
Had an Estwing for less than a year before it got retired. The blade style handle has a nasty vibration that absolutely thrashed my elbow. Went back to wood/fiberglass and elbow stopped screaming at me every evening.
Doctor recommended a 16 oz titanium wood handle stiletto. My wife was there in the appointment and heard. Only way I could ever justify 120 dollars on a hammer.
@Ben Jurqunov it will last longer than your elbow does. It's called golfers elbow or tennis elbow. If you haven't developed it yet, you are younger than 35-40, am I right?
The way it used to be done and how I learned. A hammer and a real nail. Now it's a nail gun and a cheesy wire "nail". Huff puff and I'll blow your house down! "
Man's hammer? It's a smooth face, curled claw... It's made for trim... A man's hammer is a milled face, hickory handle, straight claw. I know, I'm the man who used to use one everyday! 🇺🇸💪🏻
My father who is a structural engineer worked at a truss manufacturing plan in the 60s and he told me a story about a young woman that could beat a 16d nail into any kind of wood with 2 swings of a 23 oz framing hammer. He wasn’t kidding either. No pre drilled hole either.
Before air nailers ,, it was a tap to set the nail, and then one , mostly two swings to send it home! You never seen women in the carpentry field. So that would have been impressive to see !
First couple of sentences I thought it was going to be a joke about a women beatin off some type of slang word for a dick but it's a legit story lol. thanks for sharing. interesting!
I have never seen or heard of a framer pre-drilling a pilot hole for rough carpentry; even in this particular situation or application and I've worked with a lot of good and bad carpenters and framers in the last 40 years. I'm 59 and started working with my father at the age of 13 but got into framing and carpentry by the age of 19.
If you're worried, turn the nail over. Put the head where you're gonna drive the nail. Hit the point twice to dull. Turn it back over and you're good, between softening the wood and dulling tip.
Holy shit i had to scroll past like a thousand idiot comments to find this. You think these guys leaving comments are carpenters? I hope not. That 4x4 is expensive.
@@rjperkins365 it’s not about being worried it’s about not cracking the wood😂 that doesn’t work every time but you know what does? Guaranteed? Pilot hole. And lumber is expensive. A good foreman requires the pilot hole on a toe nail
My 80+ year old barn 100x50 foot is built using 6x6 8x8 and 5x6 beams and pillars all over.. and its built using an 4 beam X frame style but the center beam spanning 50 feet is using a long steel rod in the ceiling down ti the center of that beam.. thus making the 4 beam A/xframe style supporting its own weight. Ingenious design.. the more weight on the roof the more it supports.. so it holds itself up.. uses massive bolts to connect the huge beams. And all the pillars and beams are also interlocked together like those stairs or interlocked like a really old fashion dresser.. and they used looooong big ass nails and you can see those hammer marks on it all and the wood. Solid oak btw
The problem is his “man’s hammer” is a 16 oz with the hooked claw that looks like a finishing hammer not a framing hammer. And in my opinion, if you want to see a man’s hammer from Estwing google a 25oz … the neck is two to three inches longer than most and the head is bigger than a toonie. Not the best for framing, but cribbing and stripping concrete forms it was the best hammer ever in my opinion
I worked as a carpenter back in the ‘70’s when pretty much everybody was still swinging a hammer. My daily was a 16 oz., curved claw, octagonal face. Hard core framing guys used the big 24 oz. hammers, some with waffle faces. Should be able to drive/set a 16 penny nail in 3, no more than 4 strokes. ALL. DAY. LONG.
When did it bend? It straightened itself out in the pre drilling hole is all. All the pilot holes was correct. You know nothing. Keep telling it it to the world😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ya in canada we got same ones 4inch common bright 4inch common galvanized Then ya got ur 4inch common electro galvenized when I here Americans talk about these ring shank 14 penny I'm like f@cked if I know bud I'm from Canada eh
Over here in the UK , using proper nails is almost a crime , it’s all nail guns , if you bang in a four inch nail it ain’t coming out, these nail guns you can pull the timber apart with no real effort, cheers for watching 👏👏👍
Not sure why everybody's so bent out of shape about the pilot hole. Sure, the "man's hammer" was kind of silly (especially since it isn't even a framing hammer), and he didn't say, "Look, I've got a pilot hole". But, even if I was using a nail (usually screw rafters in), I like the pilots to keep away from the occasional splitting. What really got me going was the ten strikes!
FYI - The 4" galvinized nails cost about £10 for 2.5KG. If you get 100 x 6 heavy screws the cost per fixing is less, and they won't rust as easily or pull out as easily, (less sheering force however to break a screw) You can pilot hole if you want to. Second point, I cannot see a cavity, insulation or second skin on that wall fella, so you may need to check that build.
Just for your information the wall plate is sitting on the internal block work , there is a 100mm cavity and it’s a large double garage, so no need for cavity insulation, have a good day.⛏️
@@BuildingwithBudd Then what you have there is a perfectly correct and well made roof and wall plate. Should be stable for years. Again, nothing wrong with a pilot hole on the rafter, it will stop splits and save some wacking. Ignore the haters.
Still have elbow issues from using that eastwing for 2-3 years when I started building. A wood handle is probably the only reason I can still swing a hammer...and we never predrilled nails...
Toe nailing roof trusses is inefficient as it's very easy for high winds to lift a roof off the structure. Hurricane straps reduce the risk greatly. I personally use a 6" heavy duty screw, and yes I drill a pilot hole thru the truss, to secure the truss to the structure. I recess the screw into the truss enough to allow the roof decking to fit correctly. Thoughts on this approach?
Yeah you guys probably all need the straight claw for pulling the nail out after you’ve cracked the wood and bent the nail😂😂😂😂😂😂😅😢😮😊 just delete it bro
I inherited a 28-ounce Estwind framing hammer with a milled face from a roofer I beat the crap out of fifty years ago. The milled face is almost smooth after 50 years of driving 16d and 20d nails with it.
those old Estwing hammers were good for pulling nails but hell in the wrist and elbow. Pre drilling the nails is smart and three per truss is the minimum. Also this hand build roof frame will require half a dozen nails connecting the top chord to the floor chord so why not nail them with a air nailer. don't forget the hurricane clip too
I have this same hammer passed down from my dad but didn’t know its name. I always loved the simplicity of it. Have you seen some of these daft hammers the yanks use look like they are part of a space ship haha
Funnily enough Estwing is a US company and still manufactures their hammers over there. They're good quality and popular and I'm sure those space age hammers you speak of are just a few people buying into marketing fads.
I love the pilot hole re-directs the angle at which he’s driving the nail about 1 swing in.
A man's hammer doesn't need a pilot hole.
4 inch galvys each side of a birds mouth need pilot holes or it will just split
Yep
Well said 👌💪
@@rbruce5270 No it wont.
Someone has never swung a hammer. And yes, that is a man's hammer.
“This here is a 16 penny nail. You can drive it with 1 lick, or 2 licks.” RIP the great Larry Haun.
16 penny nail is half the gauge of a 4" galv nail in the UK
now we grab that tuba-four, and get to framing
Don't talk shit 😅
@@alang6238 only reals know💯 that’s guy was a fucking legend 👑
"small hammer work, as well as this pnuematic nailer, which speeds up the process."
And this is a man’s drill, a Ryobi. It is for drilling pilot holes for nails.
Isn't Ryobi for DIY?
@@sketch1985Garbage tools to match this garbage video.
Let's say you may get what you pay for. Sometimes the gap between price and performance is not worth the extra cost.
@@larryjohns8823 my comment was not intended as a slide against Ryobi, but to mock his statement that his hammer was a “man’s hammer” when he drove the nail through a hole that was already drilled out
@@larryjohns8823ryobi is only slightly cheaper than trusted brands , its not worth the money .
Did you really think we wouldn’t notice the pilot hole , lol.
Good observation. Now try noticing why that’s the right thing to do. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@gonova8412 it’s actually not it’s a ridiculous waste of time.
Clearly you can’t start a nail and drive it home.
Learn how to use a hammer momo
@@gonova8412professional carpenters don't need them unless it's thin hardwood. I can hit one in on an angle without a pilot hole and I'm a damn forklift driver with a few years in construction.
Sometimes pilot holes are necessary to prevent the wood from splitting, but in this case it likely wasn't needed.
@@_--____--______--___ he was showing his manly and easy it is to hammer that nail...through a hole that's already there😅
anyone with experience like this man has knows that hemlock splits when nailing, not like the pine we used to use back in the day. this guy realises this and makes a pilot hole .he is a quality carpenter that knows his stuff.
Respect sir 👏👏
needed to be said, all these clowns with nail guns and zero experience. i've had decades of experience roofing, forgot more than they will ever know. still sharpen my saws and use a hammer. old school. even use the ready reckoner, haha.gives you all the cuts, as i'm sure you already know.@@BuildingwithBudd
Ready reckoner what a superb bit of kit, I was looking on eBay the others day and the exact same book I have is about £200 it’s not printed in this version anymore, I was shocked, 👏👏👍
christ, i still have mine somewhere, the one with a blue cover. still has my protractor in it. when yer roofin regular , it's a must have bit of kit. gives you all your diminishing lengths of rafters, every cut, different length rafters for different centres. best job in the world in the summer months. my old mate was a brilliant roofer, he would cut a complete roof in the shed. he only needed to know the plate measurements. i had to do all the cutting as i was neat, he had massive hands so was a bit ham fisted. those were the days,@@BuildingwithBudd
That’s the one with the blue cover 👍👍
For the record, a 10 year old could drive a 4" nail with a predrilled hole.
My 3 year old son probably could lol
shush 🤫 they'll never know
Come on now even with a pre-drilled hole they would be handicapped having to use a 16oz trim hammer like the one used in the video. Old school carpenter my ass
@ericdevarney4089 it's a 20oz hammer
Wonder if he pre-drills all his holes before nailing 😂
Just make sure to bring your big boy drill so that you can make your pilot hole before using your big boy hammer.
Do it without a pilot hole big man
Lol. You're the definition of "work dumber, not smarter".
While the man proceeds to hammer a nail through an already drilled pilot hole. Lmao😂
He called it an "eastwing" and has a pilot hole. Wonder if his husband is a builder!
Well said
I came here to day that. Fucking "eastwing" lmao
I doubt he has a husband, but his wife's boyfriend probably is a builder.
Lol I love how you're such a repressed homosexual you feel the need to bring it up randomly, it's ok to be gay James, you don't need to pretend anymore it's 2023
And please stop pretending you don't have office pansy hands, doubt you've ever held a hammer considering you don't know how to prevent splitting in a bird's mouth, take some time from doing your nails and drive one into a piece of wood instead and you'd know better than to open your mouth
A mans hammer has a straight claw and no pilot holes
Curved claw was the first sign this guy sweeps up for the crew
Curved claw hammers are for women lol
@@burninrubba65every singo3 builder in the uk has one of these. They may have other hammers for heavier work but as we don't use timber framing for structural work most of the time this tends to be fine.
@burninrubba65 it depends for us roofers stripping battens off an old roof is way easier for leverage, the right tool for the job and all that.
That's a finish hammer not a framing hammer
I have that exact hammer. It’s one of the only tools I took from my father’s house after he passed away.
Nice to hear. I have the same one too. I got it at a yard sale for a buck. I said to the guy..."It's an Estwing."
He says, nice guy by the way, "Yeah but its got rust all over it."
I'll probably give it to some young guy on a limited budget. You owe me a cup of coffee.
You mean to tell me for 40 years I've been swinging a hammer. I could have just dropped it in a hole. Aint no way. Paaaa
Luv that dude 😂
You need to buy the predrilled wood. It's for a maaannnn.
Quality
English. Don't copy a gimmick
I wasn’t questioning his manliness until he showed me
Damn sure doesn't have blue or metal handle.
He showed you that pilot hole. 😂
@@crabbinmoose8583takes a lot of work to do it the right way. A pilot keeps the wood from splitting.
@@User-yy6xt it's ok to never have done framing. Just don't pretend.
Even if you did pilot holes almost anywhere in framing look at the grain orientation, where do you think it's gonna split??
@@miles11we you ve never framed if you did you wouldn’t ask that question
When I used nails in black and white telly days, I used a 3lb hammer. Boy did the nails sing.
As a carpenter, I approve this comment section. 👌🏻
I was saying the same thing. All these heavy hitters out here on the keyboards 😂 so hilarious
Same lol for once I'm happy about the comments
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This guy is probably community college certified.
I approve your approval sir
Looks pre-drilled?
so it doesnt split
Deep pre drill, since he bent the nail but it followed the pilot hole.
@@rbruce5270 yes but you have variations of using or not,
exactly
Lol yep
When I was 18 I got my first full time job as a home rough framer, the boss walked us into Lowes or home depot, don’t remember which but he gave us a draw on our checks to buy bags, pencil, speed square and a hammer. I picked up a hammer and said this will work.. he laughed saying you need a man’s hammer as picked up a 32 ounce framer. That afternoon my first job was to hand pound 16’s in hurricane ties.
hate the term "rough framming " framing should be done right with clean details. Rough framing makes it hard on every tradesman after your "rough framming "
@@zanaevans7403 you are probably not from America friend. Here we separate the two trades in names only. It’s not a term that means bad quality. I am actually a very good framer. “Rough Framing” is the main structure, while “finish” carpentry is simply that, to finish. Base board, door and window trim, shelving etc. both are important to have high quality.
Almost it's Vermont. 50 something year old carpenter who has seen to much to be impressed by any one thing. For the most part I work alone, then I know it's done right. Call me jaded, but no one seems to take pride in there work anymore. They just want a big pay day. Sacrificing quality for fast cash. At least this guy took the time to predrill the rafter so the toenail won't spilt heel of the rafter. What I build is my legacy, quilty will never be compromised on my jobs. Sorry for calling out rough framers. I do it all foundation to finish. There's my rant.
@@zanaevans7403 no worries, I appreciate you explaining more, and you are right, it seems like our country has lost the self respect and commitment to many principles. Or at least people like you and I are getting harder to find. I retired as a building contractor about 5 years ago and i am disappointed a bit with the quality of workers and their work ethic that I’ve seen over the years and more often. It’s a different world now. Thank you for being a good example and doing things right. You can give the next generation a chance if they are willing to work hard and can remain teachable. All your years of knowledge and experience will be appreciated by the right kids. Good luck my friend!
32 is too much for starters.its better to have a good 20/22..then save for a stilleto
Insane how that nail straightened itself up after a few hits. Lined right up in that pilot
Yeah because if you don't drill a pilot hole on the birds mouth it will split right down the grain at the worst spot
@@lucastudor5536 no it won’t.
@@aliceullrish5251 Alice? This might be a little sexist to some people but the numbers don't lie, are you a carpenter? I have a little more than a decade of experience but it didn't take me that long to know how wood works. Especially the cheap framing material that is used today.
@@lucastudor5536 facts especially on those thicker penny nails it’s just dumb to not pre drill
@@GTYS38 new to carpentry? Because you are ignoring it.
Don’t let this distract you from the fact that Hector is going to be running three Honda civics with spoon engines, and on top of that, he just went into Harry’s and bought three t66 turbos with nos, and a motec exhaust system.
This was funny 8 years ago and about 850.000 times ago
Still funny
Got me to laugh
Great comment!
I heard they were gonna overnight em from Japan
I cant believe this guy has not deleted this video out of shame. What a legend
I have a feeling its a wind up
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@@BuildingwithBudd imagine being so triggered you have to use laughing emojis when called out. Snowflake to the max.
At work, when it takes that many swings to drive a nail thru a pilot hole we tell ‘em to hit it with their purse.
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😂 I tell the new guy to hit it like it owes him money lol
@@jaywiebe7612 omg 😂😂😅
3 tap max. 💯
@@engineeringartist4801 tap-tap-sink.
Never seen a Carpenter pre drill Pine before.
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I’ve been required to do it on school builds.
@@maxwellblakely7952 Sounds strange thing to have to do, so would you still pre drill if you were using a nail gun, dont think so.
@@jamesmatheson5115 we were required to do it bc all of the lumber was kiln dried and toe nails were splitting the ends. We had to hand drive. Fuckin painstaking.
I never seen a carpenter use a nail before.
Worked construction for a while, years ago. Carried an Estwing, 28 oz waffle faced straight claw hammer. Drives 10's and 20's really easy.
Oooh a galvanized nail. What a man. Never seen that before.
Nobody has ever galvanised nails before, its tech we weren't ready for 😂 wait till he sees copper nails for the first time.
Not sure who his target audience was here. Very strange.
@@johnpeterson2987 Sensible tradesmen , so what are you doing here!
My dad was an American carpenter, I watched him frame houses, he’d drive 4” galvies in two hits ALL DAY. Tap BOOM. Tap BOOM. Tap BOOM. Two hits. Man.
I bet you are English.
Thats three hits
He never said he could count.@@shaunmcloughlin1233
I counted 3 😅
i just wondered... can he still use his hands today? i dunno if u realize, that is fine when u r young, but u will def wreck some fingers tryin to b like that. i've seen it 2 many times. an old school roofer, for sure. a framer, lol. my brother was a roofer, and back when short nails were common, he put a hurting on his finger joints. just simple physics, statistics, and complacency. don't try to be that guy, pls
A hammer w/wooden handle takes much of the shock of hammering & could keep you from getting carpal tunnel. Learned that from an old carpenter cured my friends numb hand.
A hammer with a fiber glass handle is even better for the arm . Vaughn 999
@jamesduke4957 it was a fiberglass hammer that made my friends hands numb. A 56 yr old carpenter in a drs waiting room told him to switch, it cured him
Been a carpenter for 50 years and the Estwing 22 oz is all I have ever used. In my opinion, it's the best
They are great, a tip another 50-year carpenter gave me about 40 years ago. A tool destined for your estate sale. Hammer on, brother.
never liked the estwings i always thought them unsafe with that narrow shank and just a bit pricey to boot.
came off the bench and got a Stanley 20oz for the transition and i was fine with that for years.
spotted an estwing 20oz for silly money one day and figured why not, got it home and grabbed a handful of 4" and 6" nails and a bit of scrapwood and set about knocking them in.
could not for the Life of me drive one home without leaving a half crown on it so i binned it to the back of the shed and forgot about it.
i was teamed up with this one dude for years in the end but this happened early on.
i knew he was qualified but he surely had some massive gaps in his skills, didn't know how to properly hold a hand saw for one and yet his workmanship was far better than almost every 'time served' man i ever saw on site so i had no problem with him at the end of the day.
we were studding down in Newquay this one job and he asked to borrow my Stanley so i gave it to him, should have watched him with it, and turned back to what i was doing (on price we had the paslodes out) i cringed when i heard it, he only wanted to use mine to hit his face on to try and pull a tricky nail i very nearly snapped.
of course his hammer was fine but mine was chipped so that was that in the skip.
that was on a Monday and so as we were first fixing on price i didn't bother buying another over the counter or should i say letting him pay for it instead i told him wait and i brought out the estwing to be going on with.
by the end of the first day with it i wasn't marking the timber anymore, even giving the nail that extra tap to punch it just below the surface without crowning the timber so that was me on estwings.
that's got to be almost 30 years ago now and it must be 15 since i traded up to the 24oz "English pattern" hammer and enjoyed that even more.
traded up again not long after to a 24oz framing hammer and i haven't looked back since.
the straight claw and longer shaft is like the brass backing on a tenon saw when doing some tasks with it.
seriously lads i would defo recommend them, i even use it glazing just for s***s and giggles.
@@mattredfern1339
Great, I am now officially 30 years older because I foolishly decided to read your entire comment.
@@mattredfern1339I use the narrow shank for splitting stuff.
@ Yeah, the wind just blows and blows.
40 years of hitting nails and this is all he has to offer
This made me laugh out loud 🤣
Driving a nail into a pilot hole too
So fucking rude
@@simonmasters3295 what's rude? The fact that this is a bogus video.
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He even pronounced Estwing like every other pro carpenter I've seen in all my years in the trades. We never say estwing. We always say Eastwing like God intended.
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Had a Eastwing in my kit back when I was an apprentice,it was a gift from my stepdads father!very rare with a red handle in my 3rd yr, Robert the other 3rd yr pinched it off me the bastard... always taking of the aborigines
@@Mali-kuValdes Have used them all my days , the leather handled ones, the only hammer that pings!
My dad was an old school chippy. Roofs ,studding etc. Never met a man since who could swing a hammer like him. The power and accuracy was astounding .
My Dad was the same. All in one motion he could pound in a 16 penny nail with one swing over and over setting rafters walking the exterior wall.
Pop, biff biff. Next. Forearm like Popeye. Time was money with the old school crew.
Clearly all three of you work in a call center or don't work at all. News flash hammers as still used.
Do that all day everyday and anyone will get good at it
Amazing how that hammer even makes the nail straighten up
Lol
Shame you don’t know how a pilot hole works
Its all in the wrist. I mess mine up all the time... Im clumsy with a hammer, hating to admit it. I prefer screws
It’s pre drilled
That is a nice birds mouth cut. That person running the saw needs to be congratulated for having the proper angles on cuts.
Well said 👍👍
Now, let us all be a little generous. The feller did hit that nail nice and squarely, like he had done it many times before. Maybe he just never heard of a Framing Hammer. Been framing all these years with a Finish Hammer. That's kinda badass.
@@gonova8412 So you drill Pilot holes for driving Framing nails. I bet that's 1000% true. And you think, my comment, is idiotic.
I mean honestly a hammer is a hammer i can drive a nail with my 3 pound mallet if i wanted, a 24oz a 20oz hell even a 16 oz doesnt really make a difference its a hammer
That's why he needed ten whacks at it even with a pilot hole.
@@plack_benis382If you're driving a few dozen nails at a time. If youre driving 4" galvanized all day every day, you need some heavy lumber and a waffle face. Look how many swings he took with that framing hammer with a pilot hole even.
@joxyjoxyjoxy1 You don't need anything but a good swing, it can be easier with a bigger hammer but it can be done with any.
Those self aligning nails are quality
Man Knows What A Good Hammer is. 16 LB ESTWING DROVE ALL OVER LOOKING FOR ONE WAS $38.00. 35 YEARS AGO.
Obviously he pre-drilled a hole for the nail, but nobody is mentioning that the hammer he is using is a trim hammer, not a framing hammer. Would get laughed at if I showed up to frame with that little thing
I use a 19oz California framer every day, and so do most framers I know.
We don't work this way in the uk. The terms trim and framing arnt used. We say first and second fix. Generally if you do the first fix on site you have to do the second as well. We also don't do much if any structural framing beyond roofs so most people do not have the larger framing hammers
@@jamesn0va English here.
picked up a 24oz framing hammer with the longer shank and the straight claw years ago for a site hammer, haven't put it down since in fact i still use it when i go on the odd excursion back into the workshop.
first fix or second fix makes no odds to i which tapometer i'm picking up.
being from a bench background and with plenty of time on yachts since moving to Cornwall 25 years ago i'm known for quality finish work, the decorators Love i, i usually outpace most down here second fixing on price with no drop in workmanship too btw.
oh yh and You should see the foreman's face when i glaze with it! rofl
Love it i do.
you call that a trim hammer? obviously you don't know much about trim carpentry or hammers. as a carpenter with 52 years of experience I can say with certainty that a trim hammer doesn't need to be heaver than 13 oz and a framing hammer more than 20.
oh and by the way, framing guns are the worst thing ever introduced into the industry.
@@3thomasdm15-16oz large framing hammers are becoming as common as framing guns
Lol, come on 'man'. That's a finish hammer. We use that for light work like hanging siding, nailing trim, or anything that requires actual nails. What you're using is called a spike (4"+). If you'd chosen an Estwing framing hammer with some proper weight for the framing work that you're doing, and blunt the tip on the head of your last spike, then you wouldn't need to waste time drilling a pilot hole to help it through without swinging for 5 minutes just to split the heel (that pilot hole is eliminating half the pressure that helps keep that spike from working out over time, too). The lumber doesn't care what gender you think the hammer was made for. You should only need 2 or 3 swings to drive it home, and the hammer should be doing most of the work, all you have to do is lift and aim it. Use the right tool for the job, bud. You're not just making the structure weaker, but you're taking a lot longer to build it. We'd have to have a little chat if I caught you doing any of this on my site.
And once you proceed to your second "site" you will realise there are as many plurals in english grammar as there are clowns in the building trade, as you have proved their existence!
A mate was building a major extension onto his home and he was doing about 60% of the labor himself.He had arranged for the truss roof to be delivered & installed by the contractor and they arrived to start to install the roof and just as he was leaving to go to work he noticed several workers were driving away in their cars and he asked the boss what was going on and he stated that they just realised that the compressor was bust so they couldn’t install the trusses and they’d come back another time. He asked what is wrong with using a hammer etc. to which he replied oh we’ve never done it that way before.SMH !
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When I’m sticking framing a roof I don’t carry a drill on a ladder! Walk the plate like a man with a handful of 16 sinkers and let em eat!
This is hilarious!
People, you do know that this guy drilled that hole to drive viewers nuts- right?
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You just know he has a ciggy hanging out his mouth and never tidies up.
Dfkm smoke in the video on God
A ciggy with a three inch ash on it.
This is how Fred Dibna probably hammered nails (if his hands got tired.)
Search him up. Worth a look.
😂😂😂😂👏🏼 you know it
@@jimmurphy5739 swear I found some of the old videos of him doing his thing a fair few years back and can't lie he was an absolute madman ain't no way on this earth I'd ever take up his trade of steeple jacking because I'd have absolutely shat my pants as soon as I got even a fraction of the way up
I love the birds mouth that was cut & re-cut lol below the pilot hole you drilled for the nail 😂
If you look a little closer it’s to allow for the plate being not as wide as the brickwork, if you don’t snip that bit out it won’t sit on the wall plate properly, but I guess that’s just me knowing my job, cheers for watching 👍
The brickwork is proud of the wallplate and that timber is likely going to be covered with a soffit anyway.
Stick to your timber framed shit houses with felt for roofing and OSB Shell. 😂
thats fair, but why wouldnt you just make the plate flush with the exterior? only thinking thatd save that extra cut@@BuildingwithBudd
Sorry but if you look closely the brickwork is proud of the plate.
@@nathanmiller9381 Insert a picture of any wall head brick work that's as straigh as timber!
2 words. Hans Brothers. They would hit that nail no more than twice with a 1970s hammer!
I don't give a s*** who you are you're not going to be able to swing a hammer two times and put in 16 penny nails all day long
Bet he pulled that nail straight outta his purse judging by the predrilled nailhole in a soft wood😂
It's not even a framing hammer. Hahaha finish Hammer (and a lame one at that) with a smooth face and a hooked claw. 😅😂😂
Then he edited the vid right when he glanced off the nail and put a pecker track in the wood.
A man’s hammer and a pre-drilled hole, jog on grandad😆
I framed with a 28-inch Plum hammer for years and then the nail gun came out and I couldn't get rid of that hammer fast enough❤❤❤
Redirect a 28 Oz
Shocking! Who knew you could drive a nail into wood with a hammer!?
The masters of the craft do it with two blows maximum.
No folks, that's a 16oz Estwing and a man's hammer is a 20oz Estwing.
28oz*
Heeeeeez Spartacus
Spartacus...
The world's greatest concrete finisher
Kinda makes me wish I had predrilled holes in the houses we built. Maybe then I would have use a hammer smaller than the 24 Oz california framer used. Will say, using that all day gave ya one hell of a forearm.🙂
That's the same hammer I swung back in the day. I liked the wooden handle better than the rubber.
You wouldn't be wanting those holes drilled if you saw what it looked like in 15 years.
@@jimbusmaximus4624what about what it would look like in 15 seconds if you didn't pre drill. It would split right down the grain at the worst spot right at the birds mouth. You'll learn by the time you transition from apprentice to an actual carpenter.
@@lucastudor5536 if you think we predrill pilot holes into all rafters and ceiling joists you've never been NEAR a single job site.
@@jimbusmaximus4624 few things to point out to you here: no because I don't know about you (or the "we" you are talking about) but I along with any other some what decent carpenter are going to use either a battery framer or air compressor and framer. So no need for the pilot hole as long as you know how to properly use one and know where and how to make sure it doesn't split. Hand banging a nail is like using screws, it's going to split most of the time when it's done on the grain and near the edge of the 2 by which it will be at the birds mouth. Next I never did say that you have to do this for every nail along a rafter or ceiling joist. Just that specific area of the birds mouth that is very prone to splitting, which is very important that it doesn't split considering how all the weight of the roof is bearing right on that small area. Also it doesn't involve ceiling joists like you said because they don't have birds mouths because they lay flat across the top plate. Might want to think twice before spouting off nonsense on the internet to a stranger that you have no idea about because they might know quite a bit more about the subject then you do which will make you look like an ignorant child. So yeah, I have spent about the same amount of time on a worksite that you have spent trying to talk about shit rather than doing it.
Tell it true! I bought my Eastwing hammer when I was 17 yrs old, at 61 yrs it still works great and I use it all the time! Great product!
Here in AMERICA we don't use pilot holes measure our nails or talk about our hammers we just get it done!!
Yep no forethought or planning just tear into it like a bull in a china shop!😎🤣🤣🖕
Set and send!
r. We get “r” done
Where are your videos then?
When you make a TH-cam video people generally want some description or explanation for context.
Thought you just played with your little toy cars full time.
Might aswell screw it if you've got your drills handy to drill pilot holes
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Screws shear, nails bend. Nails have to be used in framing
@@Critical_Rickand nails do nothing when there's a pilot hole
@@Critical_RickAll depends on the screw.
@And the material.
Not to mention he's hitting the nail like it his back. DRIVE THE FUCKING NAIL ALREADY!
If You Pilot hole Like That, You’ve Weakened The Grip Of The Nail Big Time only The Tip and Head Are Holding, The Shaft Of The Nail is Doing Nothing it Should be Gripping and It’s Not.
A pilot hole not a drill right through
Whilst in your unicorn world wood never contracts eh kid!
That’s a woman’s hammer
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Bigger hammers in thorntons toffee shops 🤣😅
Man's hammer lol you need a straight claw 28oz framing hammer that curved claw is for shoe repair.
looks like a transgender hammer i see all the lady boys at my local site with them
Simple but so funny
I gave you a like for trolling all these commenters. Well done on the algorithm, you genius.
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Pre drilled hole and it still took 10 hits to drive it home
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Thought he was going to spin the nail round,and flatten the point, to reduce the chance of splitting the wood.
He didn't need to because he pre drilled a pilot hole.
Great trick though
Wood that thick wood not split
Wood be better with a stainless steel trox screw,easy to remove if needed ,quieter to drive in
@@brettwatts3601 Agree. When I did cut roofs, and even trusses, we just drove the nail straight in, and splitting was never a problem... I just thought he was going to demonstrate it in this video.
God Bless 🙏❤🙏❤
Good thing I found this video or I never would have figured out how my hammer is meant to be used 🤨
my daddy left me hi hammer in his will but there were no instructions with it
Predrilled creates a tighter connection between the two pieces of wood. Its not to make it easier to hit. It also ensure the nail follows the best angle rather than diverting with the grain.
I've never ever seen a roofer pre drill holes. Rarely see any kind of drill at this stage.
Hmmmmmm!
@@Pathfinderxr because everyone uses nail guns and they are more concerned about quantity over quality
@@markdudley1028 Im not saying it should be done in industry, just that the nail only has to be tight in the piece that you attaching to for a strong fix.
I did my whole basement that way, and yeah I predrilled too. Toe nailing without predrilling would often cause the wood to crack. I don't know if I'm mad enough to actually do that again. I bought a framing nailer since then.
After cracking a knuckle or two with those estwings I went back to wood. 28 oz. Vaughn on an 18 inch oak handle. I never had to tell a neil three times or pilot the holes first.
Wat u got against hickory handle
@@joek3697 nothing. I bought the head and made the handle. With a broken thumb from the Estwing, which I donated to a laborer we hired.
👍 Vaughn
Love my California framer Vaughn also weighing in at 28oz.
Fiberglass is what any any swinger would go to
Was fetcher carrier for an gent of an old school carpenter. This is spot on technique. We used five inch galvanised nails dove tailed into the spars. You have to pre drill on 4 by 2 to stop the splitting . Then finish with a nail punch. The roof is going nowhere. Only upgrade I used was a 20oz hammer with a shock reducer shaft in the handle. Stops the joints from coming apart in your arm over time lol. But the eswing hammers are the pro choice for price
Many thanks for watching and your wise words 👏👏
A true carpenter doesn't need to predrill.
A true carpenter doesn't need to comment B.S.
Had an Estwing for less than a year before it got retired. The blade style handle has a nasty vibration that absolutely thrashed my elbow. Went back to wood/fiberglass and elbow stopped screaming at me every evening.
Yes fibre glass is the best on a 24oz .
Doctor recommended a 16 oz titanium wood handle stiletto. My wife was there in the appointment and heard. Only way I could ever justify 120 dollars on a hammer.
I'm a concrete carpenter. Estwings the only hammer what will survive.
@Ben Jurqunov it will last longer than your elbow does. It's called golfers elbow or tennis elbow. If you haven't developed it yet, you are younger than 35-40, am I right?
Thats why I switched to Vaughn. Been swinging the same one for over 25 years.
The way it used to be done and how I learned. A hammer and a real nail. Now it's a nail gun and a cheesy wire "nail". Huff puff and I'll blow your house down! "
Yup. So you must know the reason for the pilot hole then. These comments are actually sad.
@@gonova8412 Pilot hole is his thing not mine. I just learned how to build shit to last.
yeah, I used to drive nails like that until a master carpenter showed me the correct way to swing a hammer.
The hammer is what I have always used.
..... never seen anyone drill pilot holes for nails before
Now you have 👍😂
Did plans specify pre-drill or do you do it as precaution? @@BuildingwithBudd
Nor anyone needing 10 hits to drive a predrilled 4", even galvanised
@@markdoldon8852......He's a real peck-peck-peck-peckerwood.
Man's hammer? It's a smooth face, curled claw... It's made for trim... A man's hammer is a milled face, hickory handle, straight claw. I know, I'm the man who used to use one everyday! 🇺🇸💪🏻
See ya at the butcher shop
I filed down the milled face on my framer. no matter what kind of nail I started with, on the second swing, it was a pin nail.
😂😂, great job buddy. Your hilarious
Cheers for watching 👍😃
he hammered a nail with a hammer 🤯 who'd have thought it possible?😲 u must be some kinda of legend to do that, especially with a pre drilled hole 😂😂
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You fool
You little fool
@@gonova8412 who hurt you!?🤣
My father who is a structural engineer worked at a truss manufacturing plan in the 60s and he told me a story about a young woman that could beat a 16d nail into any kind of wood with 2 swings of a 23 oz framing hammer. He wasn’t kidding either. No pre drilled hole either.
Before air nailers ,, it was a tap to set the nail, and then one , mostly two swings to send it home! You never seen women in the carpentry field. So that would have been impressive to see !
But can she do 2000 of them in one day
First couple of sentences I thought it was going to be a joke about a women beatin off some type of slang word for a dick but it's a legit story lol. thanks for sharing. interesting!
Have you ever seen a woman beat 16 “D’s” at a time? 😉😂
Watch Larry Haun's framing videos and see it done.
Yeah, I always wanna have a pilot. Don’t want to have split 2xs all over the place.
Exactly. At least there is another actual carpenter in this comment section full of either apprentices or just keyboard jockeys.
I have never seen or heard of a framer pre-drilling a pilot hole for rough carpentry; even in this particular situation or application and I've worked with a lot of good and bad carpenters and framers in the last 40 years. I'm 59 and started working with my father at the age of 13 but got into framing and carpentry by the age of 19.
If you're worried, turn the nail over. Put the head where you're gonna drive the nail. Hit the point twice to dull. Turn it back over and you're good, between softening the wood and dulling tip.
Holy shit i had to scroll past like a thousand idiot comments to find this. You think these guys leaving comments are carpenters? I hope not. That 4x4 is expensive.
@@rjperkins365 it’s not about being worried it’s about not cracking the wood😂 that doesn’t work every time but you know what does? Guaranteed? Pilot hole. And lumber is expensive. A good foreman requires the pilot hole on a toe nail
My 80+ year old barn 100x50 foot is built using 6x6 8x8 and 5x6 beams and pillars all over.. and its built using an 4 beam X frame style but the center beam spanning 50 feet is using a long steel rod in the ceiling down ti the center of that beam.. thus making the 4 beam A/xframe style supporting its own weight.
Ingenious design.. the more weight on the roof the more it supports.. so it holds itself up.. uses massive bolts to connect the huge beams. And all the pillars and beams are also interlocked together like those stairs or interlocked like a really old fashion dresser.. and they used looooong big ass nails and you can see those hammer marks on it all and the wood.
Solid oak btw
No man has to swing his hammer so many times for one nail.
Sad but true
A predrilled nail!...
The problem is his “man’s hammer” is a 16 oz with the hooked claw that looks like a finishing hammer not a framing hammer.
And in my opinion, if you want to see a man’s hammer from Estwing google a 25oz … the neck is two to three inches longer than most and the head is bigger than a toonie. Not the best for framing, but cribbing and stripping concrete forms it was the best hammer ever in my opinion
Where I come from men call that a 20 penny hot dipped galvanized spike. We don’t pre-drill them but definitely use2 nails not 1. 😂
You don’t drill them for a toe nail?
I worked as a carpenter back in the ‘70’s when pretty much everybody was still swinging a hammer. My daily was a 16 oz., curved claw, octagonal face. Hard core framing guys used the big 24 oz. hammers, some with waffle faces. Should be able to drive/set a 16 penny nail in 3, no more than 4 strokes. ALL. DAY. LONG.
Old boy showing us how to predrill a hole and still bend a nail
When did it bend? It straightened itself out in the pre drilling hole is all. All the pilot holes was correct. You know nothing. Keep telling it it to the world😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@gonova8412 weird, you're the only person who thinks otherwise.
Love that hammer, mine used to be a waffle head... I used it so long it's a smooth head now.
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Well I have not seen a galvanized nail you got me there
Up until a few years ago that all we used 👍
Ya in canada we got same ones 4inch common bright
4inch common galvanized
Then ya got ur 4inch common electro galvenized when I here Americans talk about these ring shank 14 penny I'm like f@cked if I know bud I'm from Canada eh
Over here in the UK , using proper nails is almost a crime , it’s all nail guns , if you bang in a four inch nail it ain’t coming out, these nail guns you can pull the timber apart with no real effort, cheers for watching 👏👏👍
My father was a chippy. Back when framing was Eycalypt hardwood.
Driving 4 inch nails all day with no pilot holes.
Cool story bro
Not toe nails I hope
Not sure why everybody's so bent out of shape about the pilot hole. Sure, the "man's hammer" was kind of silly (especially since it isn't even a framing hammer), and he didn't say, "Look, I've got a pilot hole".
But, even if I was using a nail (usually screw rafters in), I like the pilots to keep away from the occasional splitting.
What really got me going was the ten strikes!
Love how ya went right for that pilot hole you predrilled 🤣
Toffee hammer get a 24oz man's hammer 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I’m not quite up to that yet Harry , maybe another 20 years 👍😀
Get a 28oz long shaft straight claw framers hammer and put the panel pin punch away
@@Nutsaroobawhat? You don’t know anything
@@gonova8412 I know your mum likes it in the tooshy 🤷🏻♂️
FYI - The 4" galvinized nails cost about £10 for 2.5KG. If you get 100 x 6 heavy screws the cost per fixing is less, and they won't rust as easily or pull out as easily, (less sheering force however to break a screw)
You can pilot hole if you want to.
Second point, I cannot see a cavity, insulation or second skin on that wall fella, so you may need to check that build.
Just for your information the wall plate is sitting on the internal block work , there is a 100mm cavity and it’s a large double garage, so no need for cavity insulation, have a good day.⛏️
@@BuildingwithBudd Then what you have there is a perfectly correct and well made roof and wall plate. Should be stable for years. Again, nothing wrong with a pilot hole on the rafter, it will stop splits and save some wacking.
Ignore the haters.
Cheers for watching 👏👍🪚
I approve of the people saying we do not use predrilled holes for nails
Still have elbow issues from using that eastwing for 2-3 years when I started building. A wood handle is probably the only reason I can still swing a hammer...and we never predrilled nails...
That’s a real issue^^ got rid of my east wing for that reason.
*Estwing
Why didn't you make pilot holes? A bit silly.
Not even for toe nails? You did bad work then buddy. Sorry
I'm glad you pre drilled the hole for the nail to go in. Smart thinking
I know that accent.....a man from gods own county;-)
That’s right boi 👍
Pre drilling to look stronger than he is, a trick all the boys use from the island
Israel?
@@BuildingwithBudd pilot hole?
@@BuildingwithBudd women use pilot holes for nails
Old man's hammer.... older isn't always better
Reading the comment section it clearly is. Can YOUU tell me why he pre drilled it?
Toe nailing roof trusses is inefficient as it's very easy for high winds to lift a roof off the structure. Hurricane straps reduce the risk greatly. I personally use a 6" heavy duty screw, and yes I drill a pilot hole thru the truss, to secure the truss to the structure. I recess the screw into the truss enough to allow the roof decking to fit correctly. Thoughts on this approach?
A real man doesn't need to pre-drill his holes
Don't be daft.
A hammer with a curve claw ain't for no man
hammer with a curved claw is for a joiner
I’d guess he probably does that too since he’s taking the time to do a proper toe nail😮
Yeah you guys probably all need the straight claw for pulling the nail out after you’ve cracked the wood and bent the nail😂😂😂😂😂😂😅😢😮😊 just delete it bro
I inherited a 28-ounce Estwind framing hammer with a milled face from a roofer I beat the crap out of fifty years ago. The milled face is almost smooth after 50 years of driving 16d and 20d nails with it.
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Extraordinary. I never thought I'd live to see a nail being hammered into a piece of wood.
those old Estwing hammers were good for pulling nails but hell in the wrist and elbow. Pre drilling the nails is smart and three per truss is the minimum. Also this hand build roof frame will require half a dozen nails connecting the top chord to the floor chord so why not nail them with a air nailer. don't forget the hurricane clip too
I have this same hammer passed down from my dad but didn’t know its name. I always loved the simplicity of it. Have you seen some of these daft hammers the yanks use look like they are part of a space ship haha
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Funnily enough Estwing is a US company and still manufactures their hammers over there. They're good quality and popular and I'm sure those space age hammers you speak of are just a few people buying into marketing fads.