IONNA is LIVE! Full Site Tour Of IONNA's Apex Rechargery
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lol we already have wawa gas stations here with fast chargers.
Desperately hoping to see these folks succeed AND to bring rechageries here to Upstate NY!
Hey, at least we've got the one on I-81 in Scranton!
Your wish is IONNA's command.
Yes bring up the north way, thru way, and even on the taconic!
A canopy, trash cans, and windshield washing… Be still my heart!
Ionna hits all the spots, what a great addition to our EV charging world!
I love the retro graphic design of these chargers/buildings. And the functionality with the power delivery/cable length seems like a winning combination.
Tesla desperately needs to release the ability to Precondition for third party NACS/CCS stations. Only power-users are going to know to navigate to a Supercharger prior to visiting IONNA, and many Teslas will be arriving with cold batteries and therefore experiencing dreadfully slow charging sessions.
I’m 30min out and excited to see it in person!
Okay, it has been two hours since you commented. What did you think about it?
When are they coming to Florida?
I like the retro appearance of the cabinets.
The solar panel awning over the parking spots is something all charging sites should have.
I don’t think that canopy is solar.. I saw no cells in the opening footage.
But you’re correct charging sites should have solar canopies, unless they’re too shaded to be practical.
@ChuckvdL If it doesn't have solar panels, they have really missed an opportunity.
@@pauld6967 Brings costs down though.
@@pauld6967 This site is very new. Construction renovation of site started 2 months ago. Even if they were to get solar, getting it online will take some time. Heck getting solar at home in most places after install usually takes a few months longer than that.
@@pauld6967 Price & ROI to install pv & bss is probably too expensive currently, hopefully future-proofed?
Looks awesome, sad I couldn't be there today but family stuff requires me at home!
Great video , explains a lot. Was cool seeing everyone at the event today !
Like the vending machines, love the coffee shop
Great to see! I hope to visit the Springfield, Ohio location when it opens shortly
Super awesome meeting you and many other EV fans in person today! Love the site and the chargers!
That's a really slick setup! Kids are going to absolutely love the arcade and parents will appreciate the food/drinks available and the seating space.
So happy for you man! this project has to feel good :)
Exactly what an EV rechargery should be and hope to see lots more. I'll definitely put this on my radar if I'm driving through Apex, NC.
I never thought I’d see a charging station nicer than the Mercedes Benz Charging Hub in GA. Just did.
Thanks, Branden, for this content.
the alpi ad we needed!
Awesome video, Branden. It was great to finally meet you in person! -Lanny
Likewise! Glad you could make it.
now put these along the highways, I'd gladly pay a little bit more to charge for some nice clean bathrooms
Well done. Was there and love the dispenser.
Hey Branden! I just recently discovered your channel and love the work youre doing! Glad you could make it to Apex NC. I saw you there but was way too shy to say hi lmao. This event was fun and im excited to see what's next for Ionna!
Very very impressive. The instruction is so clear.
It does look good. Seems like they have thought of everything, hopefully the rollout goes well.
Cool to see B4 the event started.
Looks really good, hopefully a model that can be duplicated in many places. I agree that emergency stop is just going to be tampered with, well hit by haters and jokesters to turn off the entire site perhaps some security cameras including one that faces directly at it with lighting so it's less tempting. Will it have windshield washing capabilities as I see bins but wasn't sure if those were washing as well although someone would have to maintain them.
Funny how this looks like any smaller Aral Pulse / EnBW / Fastned site in Germany but is a big thing in NA :D
Great video would be nice to see these expand out to the northeast region.
The scranton, PA site is opening up soon.
Ironically I lived about 1/2 a mile from this location until a few months ago. Apex Utilities was hacked in July and they lost everything. They couldn’t bill us until October and it really was a mess. Do you know if that delayed anything with this site opening?
Thanks for tour. I certainly hope these Alpitronic units are reliable. Looks like a decent design. A dozen 200 kW bays needs to be minimum spec. 12 and counting up to 30,000.
I wanted to be there, but work had other ideas.
Thanks for the walk around.
Oh heck, your name didn’t click when I met you today. I’m sorry I’m so glad to have met you.
Southwest Florida needs a Rechargery
Can't wait to check one out.
Wow, great setup. Hopefully other stations move in this direction.
2:39 - just got a text from Tobias aka Electric Trucker in Germany and he only wants to know ONE THING, is that canopy tall enough to drop his trailer, park underneath, and plug in an Iveco/Nikola Electric Semi...? if not, he says YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG...😉
Great site. Hopefully the reliability is there. My only complaint is that there's no pull-thru stalls. What type of local food company did they partner with?
I agree but it’s not a deal breaker for this type of location. But for interstate travel it’s a must.
@@tkmedia3866urban sites are less likely to have trailering
Usually, the cap for the 350 kW chargers is based on only having enough power modules to provide 500 A current at up to 700 V, which is why you'll see current reduced with two cars splitting power when charging at higher than 350 V pack voltage, even when the charger is capable of bridging current as well as voltage.
I'm assuming a "400 kW" rated charger can provide 500 A up to 800 V, unless you're saying that that current value is available at an even higher voltage. The good news is, we're finally seeing chargers that can max out the 200 kWh Ultium packs so we can start seeing more valid charging profile tests.
I routinely pull 170-185KW off many chargers rated at 150KW because I’m still below the amperage limit with my GV60 due to the 800v architecture. So with a 500A/400KW unit it’s entirely possible it could deliver >400KW to something with a >800V pack.
The bummer on the power ratings for most chargers that support the full NEVI voltage range is that lower voltage cars will be limited to roughly half the ‘rated’ power of the charger. And that’s a hard thing for many people to grok
@@ChuckvdL It wouldn't be half the rated power because the charger's rated power is based on the highest voltage where max current is available. For 350 kW chargers, that's well short of the 920+ V max voltage. In theory, these 400 kW chargers should have a slightly higher voltage where 500 A is available, but it would still be well short of 920+ V. So an EV that can pull 500 A on a 350 kW charger will typically pull 200+ kW.
Also, NEVI only requires 150 kW per stall, which will typically be a max of 350 to 400 A. At a very common 350-400 V charging voltage, that would allow a 500 A car to charge at 140-160 kW. Well within the rated power range for the charger. The 900-100 V max voltage has been a standard for >80 kW North American public DCFC for 6+ years at this point.
HYC400 can do up to 1200A per unit at up to 600A per cable or 400kW
@@brandenflasch Interesting. So that would be 600 A up to ~666 V combined. Does the 600 A max current also apply to CCS1? I saw H+S advertise a 600 A CCS1 Radox cable, but I still haven't seen any installed.
@@newscoulomb3705 yes
Looks like the Tesla Supercharging network has got some real competition now
I love it....need a few of these in Georgia!
Great start, hope they build out more, and that they include a lot of chargers per station as demand will rise for public DC fast chargers.
This site is fire! Hope to see more soon!
Your awesome !!
Nice execution, just hope they can fulfil even a fraction of the ambitious build out to similar quality. Thanks for bringing us the tour so quickly (and succinctly!)⚡
Strange launch location - guessing it's not near existing charging locations (You didn't say) .
Doubt we'll see this on the West coast anytime soon.
The nearest charging station is a single 10+ year old CHAdeMO only unit in the city parking lot a block away
48¢ per? That’s pretty expensive, yes? I’m used to 34¢-40¢ here in GA.
Very normal for non-Tesla charging
Brandon, what’s your role in designing or building them? I love these Alpitronics chargers.
I would have loved to see them include some L2 AC at those standard parking spots next to the lounge.
At first I questioned if anyone would use them, but if they were fairly high power, it might free up a DC charger if there was encouragement to move to AC at high SoC once the rate tapers.
@@ChuckvdL What EV owners focused on travel often forget is that people work at these locations. Workplace charging is a big benefit. Also, some e-bikes, older EVs, PHEVs, etc. don't have DCFC ports.
@@newscoulomb3705don’t forget about the electric motorcycles. Not all of them support DC. Some even support dual AC.
This looks so retro. This is what it would have been like if GM had not killed the EV1.
I always get a kick out of these multilingual stations that show a flag of Spain when showing Spanish as a language choice. 9 out of 10 times it’s going to not be Spain Spanish 😂
Looks nice Branden,
These are awesome. I'll never see these in Idaho 😢
Does the Alpitronic charger dispensers come with a folding chair for service technicians? I see them!
Those are for the event
I see they’ve got “Plug & Charge / Autocharge” - do you know if they’re going to offer a MAC address-based Autocharge similar to EVgo? For us with cars that don’t support Plug & Charge? Or are they just showing both phrases to mean Plug & Charge standard? Will probably require the app if so.
They're grouped because the end experience is essentially the same
Wish Central Florida had more stations!
Nice, maybe we’ll get one of these out here in the middle of the country in 10 years or so. Until then, they will all be built along the east and west coasts and down in Houston on the Gulf Coast. Usual thing
Abilene, KS is listed on their website. I-70.
How about airing up a tire or purchasing washer fluid?
Hi Jose!!!
That looks almost like... what a highway refueling station should be! Weird.
I mean, i love hanging out by the Walmart dumpsters, but this will do i guess.
I hope its better than Electrify America WHICH SUCKS SOOOO BAD... Talking about the downtown Cary location (Crossroads). Do they support the free BMW charging promotion one gets with a new Beamer?
Those promos are EA only
This is the second video where I have heard you complain about the Emergency Shut-off Button.
The whole point of it being prominently placed is for it to be easily and rapidly located and actuated by someone who may be in a state of panic when an emergency arises.
Unfortunately it also is effectively an attractive temptation for luddites to mess with EV owners. And a complete boon to would be copper thieves.
I’m also curious what scenario you envisage it being needed? It’s not as if I can mis-handle the cable to do the electrical equivalent of pouring gallons of gas on the ground. And there’s not an EV made that will go into gear while still connected to a charger.
@ChuckvdL I am not an electrical engineer but for every electrical device I had to work with or around in both my military and civilian careers that had an emergency shut-off, the cautionary explanation ran along these lines:
If the overhead sprinklers come on or if the cabinet faults and begins to short out, hit the button.
I hear you when you speak of mischief makers. As for copper thieves, I thought IONNA planned on having a security patrol at their sites. No?
Emergency stops are redundant with multiple layers of protection in the EV, in the chargers and in the upstream electrical
Bummed I couldn't make the event! Looks like a fun time
Grew up in Kannapolis i miss living in charlotte.
Every time I hear "rechargery" I think "Stop trying to make fetch happen."
$.50 is crazy man. it should be $.20
Based on what?
@@brandenflasch looking out for the people
i dont think the marketing is "corny", the branding reminds me of Overwatch, or future-retro vibe from Fallout or some other video game type styling.
I mean corny in a bit of a non-traditional fun way. It's not a bad thing.
Great site and idea. My only concern is the profitability at this location being outside of California with its high EV uptake there. So can this make a profit in a state like NC at this point in the EV adoption rate here.
I'm surprised by this location as it's not adjacent to major thoroughfares. Even US-1 is nearly a couple of miles away. There are some lovely restaurants / coffee shops nearby, though, and perhaps IONNA wanted to be able to get their first site up quickly be re-purposing this former gas station. Looked like there was a good turnout of attendees at today's event when I drove by this afternoon.
It is so small compared to ROVE Charging in Santa Ana California
Just as it really gets rolling we get the ev haters or the ff lovers back in charge. This
is great
Are these some of the first mainstream Alpi units in North America?
Yes
Someone tell ionna what "pull through" means. Im not really feeling the whole drive through the trees vibe of this pull through charging station.
They know
Beautiful! Hope to experience one of these locations.
$.48 kWhr is expensive. Must be “premium high octane” electrons. Still a great setup and facility.
Expensive based on what?
@ In comparison with other charging rates by Tesla here in my region with hydro power. Assumptions are that e prices are higher there?
Cool idea. Not liking only having one screen on the units.
All that straw on the ground, and I'm looking for Li'l Sebastian.
so the chargers actually worked?
Very exciting
Nice not to hear big fans, like with the Efacec QC45's I usually use. Those Alpitronics are remarkably quiet.
Thank you for showing off the place.
Wrong restroom my guy...
Beside the stand alone sites, Ionna will partner with Sheetz.
it was nice. Sorry we didn't get to speak.
These setup seemed to be fairly high cost …
Glad to see they aren't making us download yet another app.
They will have one soon. They are using ChargePoint initially. Just like EA didn’t have a app when they launched.
See you at 2pm!
Nice!
I think it's a miss to not put a screen on both sides. Or at least if it's one screen, I think it should have been on the front. I don't want somebody standing that close to my car operating the screen.
could always install it the other direction. But Ive also seen plenty of charger installed backwards to avoid facing the LCD screen to the southern sky and burning out.
137cal 💀
We need Ionna in the PNW! Personally, I am not a big fan of the color scheme they chose. Please tell me the dispensers look better in person!
They look great in person
What a cool Station! Having 2 handles but only having one screen is a bit of a downside imo. Is that a cost thing or there isn't a possibility to have a 2nd screen on the other side? Thanks!
What for?
@ so people who are on the B side don’t have to go near the cars of the A side. Also I worry about people stopping the wrong session.
@@gchetail I wonder if its easy to stop other peoples session? I used similar that are a bit more difficult from the interface to accidentally stop the wrong cars as it will prompt the phone app, or enter other details.
No pull thru for trailers…not monumental at all
do the charge stations have any safety features? what happens when a battery pack catches fire? are they any fire extinguishers?
Branden goes into the women’s restroom like a true liberal.
These are just basic single user instead of multi user washrooms. Why bother having gender specific rooms? If it’s open just use it.
@@tkmedia3866exactly.
No, they clearly say “men’s” and “women’s” on the wall outside the door. Gender specific bathrooms prevent pedos from acting “trans” so they can be creeps.
Looks small. Disappointing for their first , grand opening site.
This is pretty good as a retrofit of a petro station, as a in town local charging site. Looks like it will work great in small towns. I bet we will see lot of different types of sites. Will see interstate site soon in the Ohio sites opening in a few days.
They made great use of the space available and have plans / options for expansion