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EZBOT, you are a god send man. i'm a new octatrack user just trying to figure things out and being unable to record longer loops was driving my crazy to no end. This deserves so much more than 300 likes bro.
im a guitarist first and foremost, got my first guitar at 10yrs old, got into electronic music when i was in my teens and started using reason to produce, fast forward a bunch of years and i bought a octatrack to be my guitar looper because i couldnt find a guitar looper that i could pre set loop lengths (still its not as easy to find as you would think/hope) guitar (with a boss gt1000 core), octatrack, midi foot pedal and i've got a standalone rig for nearly all my needs. LOVE the octatrack
This is my favourite video of yours I've seen. I've had this explained numerous times on Elektronauts, but have a vocal explanation of yours sends this right home. Exactly what I needed, thanks EZBOT - hats off sir.
Good to see you pushing and demonstrating the technical boundaries and keeping us all in the loop, even if some of us are still stuck on basic stuff. This might take a while!!
You can go beyond 32 bars too! If you delay pressing REC3 the second time until the final pattern length is playing it'll keep recording up to that last pattern length (assuming you have enough recording buffer memory.)
I've been watching your stuff for a while now, your tutorial videos have come a LONG way. Like as far as directions to do a thing, and why the thing is being done - you never missed a step. It is SO easy to follow along and know exactly what you're doing every step. Ever thought about a career in tech support? ;)
I have an ot for 10 years, I have been struggling with long loops for days or weeks, at the end I gave up (but still use the ot, even upgraded to mk2). So unbelievable to find out it is possible. At the end I see how close I was. Thank you so much! Love your tutorials 🙏
Your tutorials are so so good! These help me out a bunch so thank you! This is one of those techniques where while learning it I get mixed results even if I follow step by step. It seemed to quantize to a shorter loop and sometimes very long, much longer than the master pattern length. Don't know why and not sure what I did in the end to make it work but I think I started to get the hang of it. The recording buffer RLEN MAX is something I learned to avoid when trying to figure out how to make longer loops on the OT on my own. I just ended up giving up and using shorter ones but now with the Soma Terra I really want to have longer loops and actually learn how to sample and resample on the Octatrack.
if you don't want to wait the entire loop length to start recording you can arm a recording trig at step 1, press play, then press the recorder button immidiately. you may have to press the recorder button twice for the one-two recording-rule to properly apply, i'd have to double check that later (haven't used that technique in a while)
Man I have been trying to replicate something like this on the Mpc cuz I don’t want to spent more money …. But the more I watch the more I need an octotrack
A precision worth adding: 1:17 "Dynamic recorders allows one recording buffer to steal memory from another recording buffer" is not entirely correct > Track recorders will use all the available Flex RAM memory (not only memory allocated to other Record Buffers), and totaly disable the Reserved Length limit. It means that adding more Samples to the Flex Sample Slot List leaves less recording time avaiable for Dynamic Record Buffers
if one didnt want to wait for 8 bars until record start, it is possible to just set the QREC to 1 bar and set REC trig at the start and press another time to stop the loop will always end based on the bpm. could just count 8 bars also and press at the end of 8 bars or 16 bars
EZBOT, I encouter some problems to hear the recording. I see it well populating on AED but after stopping the func yes shows nice waveform but no sound and later if i save it as a copy and transfer it to the computer to check it i see this recorded audio is empty. Ableton is not accepting this audio. What can i do to solve this problem? Any Idea?
there is no other vendor in the music world who has to make so much smoke about having 8 bar even 16 bar sampling lol. Other people (non elektronauts) who create music are wondering about this issue.
I followed everything but ever time I hit play it starts recording. Then at the end of the 8 bar loop it starts a new recording over the previous loop… what am I doing wrong?!!??
There is another variant of this that doesn't require you to press the REC3 button a second time, after the recording has started : 8 bar loops: - Track Pattern Length: 64/64 1/2 - Master Scale: 128 - TRIG: ONE or ONE2 (both work and seem to behave the same) - RLEN: Max - QREC: PLEN (or 128) - Dynamic Rec: NO - Reserved Length: whatever value equals 128 steps or above - Press REC3 (while out of REC mode and with active Track being the Recorder Track) Or use armed One-shot Rec Trigs 16 bar loops: - Track Pattern Length: 64/64 1/4 - Master Scale: 256 - TRIG: ONE or ONE2 (both work and seem to behave the same) - RLEN: Max - QREC: PLEN (or 256) - Dynamic Rec: NO - Reserved Length: whatever value equals 256 steps or above - Press REC3 (while out of REC mode and with active Track being the Recorder Track) Or use armed One-shot Rec Trigs In essence, the recording may actualy be longer than wished (that's the role of "Reserved Length") but Sampe Trig + QREC + the adequate pattern length will mask the extra bit and loop as intended. Advantage: - Only 1 physical action is needed Disadvantages: - If you set the "Reserved Length" to more steps than you actualy need, some RAM is actualy wasted (because the recording is actualy longer than what will be played) - If you change Tempo, you have to re-adjust "Reserved Length"
This is true but I don’t like this method, it’s not faster or easier imo, too much meddling in the system settings repeatedly per recording length. Every time you change the reserve length you have to reset the RAM and dump all sample + flex association. I personally like the analogy of “stealing”, it makes it easy to understand and that one recording buffer is eating a bigger portion of the pie than another. This is good OT chat, I hope you’re in the discord.
Quite true ! I agree il's a pain to have to manualy adjust the Reserved Length (especialy because it's coupled with tempo :( ) I'm gonna make a few tests to see if I can find a sweet spot with a reserved length that can accomodate all I can think of doing (120 to 160 bpm, 8 and 16 bar loops, 16 and 24 bit) and leave as much space as possible for for Flex Samples. All I need it x4 Tracks Recorder max in the end. The analogy is good, it's just that it's not stealing only the other Recording Buffers' pie, it's also stealing the Flex Track Sample Slot List RAM 🥧 Yes I am on the discord :d Under the name Df
The recording worked great, but i am having trouble playing back the whole sample. It restarts halfway through even though i am playing it with the same settings i used to record it
Quick question, on your master track do you use a compressor? If you do, how do you manage the recording and playback through the compressor with this technique?
Assign a Gain value of 0 for the compressor on Track 8 on Scene B ( using the crossfader ). When you fade to Scene B ( and the recording is the only audible channel ) you will hear the allready compressed recording without additional compression on Track 8 ( master ).
Hi Ezbot, This video helped a lot. Tries it and worked perfectly. What I do not understand is why the resampled recording is louder than the resampled tracks. I resampled tracks 1-6 and recorded to 7. when toggle mutes 1-6/7. 7 is louder, why?
Did you use a compressor on your master channel? If so, you will be double compressing the outgoing signal. Once in the ( compressed and louder ) recording, once when it is being sent again through the master channel. You can remove the compressor from your Track 8 ( Master ) or assign a Gain value of 0 on Scene B ( using the crossfader ).
Couldn't you use ONE mode instead of ONE2 and RLEN to 64, and then not have to worry and stopping the recording manually? Edit: No, doesn't work. RLEN seems to be a factor of the Master length, so RLEN at 64 only records half/quarter of the longer length. Setting Master Scaling to 1/2 doesn't help either. A workaround, though, is to switch Dynamic Recorders off, set the Reserve Length to something larger than you will need, and RLEN to MAX, then use a trig to fire off the recording at the start of the pattern. This works because - even though the recorder will keep recording beyond the pattern length - it's playback will be restarted at the start of each pattern (and tracks aren't polyphonic..). Did I get this right #EZBOT?
The recording worked great, but i am having trouble playing back the whole sample. It restarts halfway through even though i am playing it with the same settings i used to record it
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I think I am going to mom and take a bunch of sleeping pills. Its common sense. Science
EZBOT, you are a god send man. i'm a new octatrack user just trying to figure things out and being unable to record longer loops was driving my crazy to no end. This deserves so much more than 300 likes bro.
Haha thanks so much
Merci it’s helping me a lot. Cheers
im a guitarist first and foremost, got my first guitar at 10yrs old, got into electronic music when i was in my teens and started using reason to produce, fast forward a bunch of years and i bought a octatrack to be my guitar looper because i couldnt find a guitar looper that i could pre set loop lengths (still its not as easy to find as you would think/hope)
guitar (with a boss gt1000 core), octatrack, midi foot pedal and i've got a standalone rig for nearly all my needs. LOVE the octatrack
Long time announced video, Thank you!
Haha yeah!
This is my favourite video of yours I've seen.
I've had this explained numerous times on Elektronauts, but have a vocal explanation of yours sends this right home.
Exactly what I needed, thanks EZBOT - hats off sir.
Thank you!
Needed this!
😍
My favorite thing about Ezbot OT videos is the "look you dipshits I fucking did it" vibe
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Good to see you pushing and demonstrating the technical boundaries and keeping us all in the loop, even if some of us are still stuck on basic stuff. This might take a while!!
You can go beyond 32 bars too! If you delay pressing REC3 the second time until the final pattern length is playing it'll keep recording up to that last pattern length (assuming you have enough recording buffer memory.)
Yeah, but you’d have to time it and waiting to the end of 32 bars is nothing something I’d be into haha 😂 I am an impatient OT user!
@@EZBOT_ haha, yeah your method is more foolproof for sure!
I've been watching your stuff for a while now, your tutorial videos have come a LONG way. Like as far as directions to do a thing, and why the thing is being done - you never missed a step. It is SO easy to follow along and know exactly what you're doing every step.
Ever thought about a career in tech support? ;)
Haha 😂 you offering me a job?!
I have an ot for 10 years, I have been struggling with long loops for days or weeks, at the end I gave up (but still use the ot, even upgraded to mk2). So unbelievable to find out it is possible. At the end I see how close I was. Thank you so much! Love your tutorials 🙏
Happy to help!
Vocals on this track are sick, would be interested to see how you record/modulate your vox when recording
Thanks!
so SO helpful. Thank you!
Informative per usual 😀
Awesome. Thanks Matthew!
awesome octatrack content always! thank you matt
Great tutorial!
amazing video, always something new to learn from this incredible machine. thanks for sharing.
Thank you!
Your tutorials are so so good! These help me out a bunch so thank you!
This is one of those techniques where while learning it I get mixed results even if I follow step by step. It seemed to quantize to a shorter loop and sometimes very long, much longer than the master pattern length. Don't know why and not sure what I did in the end to make it work but I think I started to get the hang of it. The recording buffer RLEN MAX is something I learned to avoid when trying to figure out how to make longer loops on the OT on my own. I just ended up giving up and using shorter ones but now with the Soma Terra I really want to have longer loops and actually learn how to sample and resample on the Octatrack.
Excellent tutorial. Didn't know that bit about the dynamic recoding buffers setting! How did I miss that? Thanks.
Thanks!
Great as usual. Thanks!
Thank you!
Thanks for the tut. ❤
No problem!
Super useful, thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
if you don't want to wait the entire loop length to start recording you can arm a recording trig at step 1, press play, then press the recorder button immidiately. you may have to press the recorder button twice for the one-two recording-rule to properly apply, i'd have to double check that later (haven't used that technique in a while)
thanks, really great vid!!
Man I have been trying to replicate something like this on the Mpc cuz I don’t want to spent more money …. But the more I watch the more I need an octotrack
Quick record FTW
This should be a default feature on the MK3
A precision worth adding: 1:17 "Dynamic recorders allows one recording buffer to steal memory from another recording buffer" is not entirely correct > Track recorders will use all the available Flex RAM memory (not only memory allocated to other Record Buffers), and totaly disable the Reserved Length limit. It means that adding more Samples to the Flex Sample Slot List leaves less recording time avaiable for Dynamic Record Buffers
Amazing
Thank you :)
if one didnt want to wait for 8 bars until record start, it is possible to just set the QREC to 1 bar and set REC trig at the start and press another time to stop the loop will always end based on the bpm. could just count 8 bars also and press at the end of 8 bars or 16 bars
Yes, you can do that!
👍
EZBOT, I encouter some problems to hear the recording. I see it well populating on AED but after stopping the func yes shows nice waveform but no sound and later if i save it as a copy and transfer it to the computer to check it i see this recorded audio is empty. Ableton is not accepting this audio. What can i do to solve this problem? Any Idea?
by the way i love your risers, can those be purchased in europe?
i love this video gives a lot of information, but tell me Ko-FI shop items description, i bought some, but what means 2FF?
2 Free Flex tracks
ohhh this saved my day, instead of head torture what mean these f*** 2ff :-)) Thank you for your fast responde, i appreciate@@EZBOT_
Funny enough… i was trying to figure out how to do this last week, but couldn’t do it cause I didn’t do the first step
Happy to help!
there is no other vendor in the music world who has to make so much smoke about having 8 bar even 16 bar sampling lol. Other people (non elektronauts) who create music are wondering about this issue.
I followed everything but ever time I hit play it starts recording. Then at the end of the 8 bar loop it starts a new recording over the previous loop… what am I doing wrong?!!??
1st like and comment - did i win an octatrack or digitakt? 😊
10x Digitakts!
@@EZBOT_ gib gib gib 🤓
There is another variant of this that doesn't require you to press the REC3 button a second time, after the recording has started :
8 bar loops:
- Track Pattern Length: 64/64 1/2
- Master Scale: 128
- TRIG: ONE or ONE2 (both work and seem to behave the same)
- RLEN: Max
- QREC: PLEN (or 128)
- Dynamic Rec: NO
- Reserved Length: whatever value equals 128 steps or above
- Press REC3 (while out of REC mode and with active Track being the Recorder Track)
Or use armed One-shot Rec Trigs
16 bar loops:
- Track Pattern Length: 64/64 1/4
- Master Scale: 256
- TRIG: ONE or ONE2 (both work and seem to behave the same)
- RLEN: Max
- QREC: PLEN (or 256)
- Dynamic Rec: NO
- Reserved Length: whatever value equals 256 steps or above
- Press REC3 (while out of REC mode and with active Track being the Recorder Track)
Or use armed One-shot Rec Trigs
In essence, the recording may actualy be longer than wished (that's the role of "Reserved Length") but Sampe Trig + QREC + the adequate pattern length will mask the extra bit and loop as intended.
Advantage:
- Only 1 physical action is needed
Disadvantages:
- If you set the "Reserved Length" to more steps than you actualy need, some RAM is actualy wasted (because the recording is actualy longer than what will be played)
- If you change Tempo, you have to re-adjust "Reserved Length"
This is true but I don’t like this method, it’s not faster or easier imo, too much meddling in the system settings repeatedly per recording length. Every time you change the reserve length you have to reset the RAM and dump all sample + flex association. I personally like the analogy of “stealing”, it makes it easy to understand and that one recording buffer is eating a bigger portion of the pie than another. This is good OT chat, I hope you’re in the discord.
Quite true ! I agree il's a pain to have to manualy adjust the Reserved Length (especialy because it's coupled with tempo :( ) I'm gonna make a few tests to see if I can find a sweet spot with a reserved length that can accomodate all I can think of doing (120 to 160 bpm, 8 and 16 bar loops, 16 and 24 bit) and leave as much space as possible for for Flex Samples. All I need it x4 Tracks Recorder max in the end.
The analogy is good, it's just that it's not stealing only the other Recording Buffers' pie, it's also stealing the Flex Track Sample Slot List RAM 🥧
Yes I am on the discord :d Under the name Df
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The recording worked great, but i am having trouble playing back the whole sample. It restarts halfway through even though i am playing it with the same settings i used to record it
Quick question, on your master track do you use a compressor? If you do, how do you manage the recording and playback through the compressor with this technique?
I do not use the compressor on the master, I use one on the input if I use one at all
Assign a Gain value of 0 for the compressor on Track 8 on Scene B ( using the crossfader ). When you fade to Scene B ( and the recording is the only audible channel ) you will hear the allready compressed recording without additional compression on Track 8 ( master ).
Hi Ezbot,
This video helped a lot.
Tries it and worked perfectly.
What I do not understand is why the resampled recording is louder than the resampled tracks.
I resampled tracks 1-6 and recorded to 7. when toggle mutes 1-6/7. 7 is louder, why?
Did you use a compressor on your master channel? If so, you will be double compressing the outgoing signal. Once in the ( compressed and louder ) recording, once when it is being sent again through the master channel. You can remove the compressor from your Track 8 ( Master ) or assign a Gain value of 0 on Scene B ( using the crossfader ).
i wonder if there is a way to make a retrospective looper on this machine?
What ya mean?
@@EZBOT_ try the the endlesss.fm app on your mac to get an idea.
It’s the most intuitive looping technique imo
@@hristostoev80 I’ll check it out
@@EZBOT_ 👍
have you ever gotten used to the fact that 2 of the digi's have yellow lcds and the others black/white?
Nope, never will
@@EZBOT_ you think they will release updates to the digitakt/digiton with black/white screens?
showing the ' attr ' would have been casual to see the 8 bars recording lenght.
track id?
Just something i made on my gear
Needs a proper release
@@TheJacksonscience Thank you!
so much
Couldn't you use ONE mode instead of ONE2 and RLEN to 64, and then not have to worry and stopping the recording manually?
Edit: No, doesn't work. RLEN seems to be a factor of the Master length, so RLEN at 64 only records half/quarter of the longer length. Setting Master Scaling to 1/2 doesn't help either.
A workaround, though, is to switch Dynamic Recorders off, set the Reserve Length to something larger than you will need, and RLEN to MAX, then use a trig to fire off the recording at the start of the pattern. This works because - even though the recorder will keep recording beyond the pattern length - it's playback will be restarted at the start of each pattern (and tracks aren't polyphonic..).
Did I get this right #EZBOT?
That is true but confusing if you wanted to reverse the audio live or chop it
Awesome, just discovered your channel and re-discovering my beloved Octa! Thanks for the content, really appreciated
Thank you!
The recording worked great, but i am having trouble playing back the whole sample. It restarts halfway through even though i am playing it with the same settings i used to record it
Check for a second trig on your sequencer
Thank you!!