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I'd seriously recommend all of Denis's filmography, starting with Incendies. It's one of his first movies but it's one of the greatest films of the last decade, tbh. His later ones have been phenomenal for sure, but do definitely check that one out.
One of the beautiful things about this movie to me is that she isn’t seeing the future, she’s just experiencing different parts of her life all at the same time. She’s not manipulating what happens in order to avoid a certain outcome; instead, all these experiences intertwine and inform each other. In her mind, her daughter doesn’t die in the future; she is both present, yet to be born, and already gone, and Louise just chooses to experience it all. She doesn’t choose not to tell Ian this time because he leaves; she already will tell him, already has, and knew he would leave all along. It’s incredible, and I loved rewatching it with you all.
@@musicmashup9597 i used to agree but, im gonna be honest, i don't think she can what she experiences is pretty much the Doctor Manhattan experience-she lives every moment in time at once. She can focus on one moment, of course, but not stop experiencing it all. And when you're everywhere in time, everything is already in the past. Done and gone. Even if she tried to do something different in one moment, she's already in the future and in the past
That's probably also why they were both in the corner when they planted the explosives. It was the last time they would be able to speak to each other before the others arrived and they needed to tell them, so they probably had some sort of parting. Since their live experiences are nonlinear, it might be less emotional than it would be for us, but it probably still meant something to them. Lovely creatures.
Anyone who learns their language will be able to perceive time as the aliens do - not just Louise. She was the first. In 3,000 years they need our help collectively, not Louise specifically. Louise is the one to bring their language to the world.
My favorite thing about this channel is that Oak is always the most skeptical about movies like Arrival and Harry Potter, and then, once he’s done with them, he is always is the most impacted, the most moved, the most permanently changed. That’s precious. When the credits roll on this one, everyone is chattering excitedly, but he sits there, somberly, quietly, really absorbing the sheer gravity and sorrow of what he just witnessed. And at the same time, as soon as this video started, I noticed that he’s the only one with like three pieces of Harry Potter memorabilia on his desk 😆. He genuinely takes something away from seeing these incredible, powerful films. And I love that so much about him.
He’s hesitant and mentions lots of movies that he started and didn’t finish or somehow lost interest in. Sit him down and make him watch something and he really gets invested. Great stuff!
To clarify, their language, really learning it and becoming fluent, is what makes you able to experience time all at once. Implication is that Louise will start the process of teaching whoever can learn and push humanity forward toward a new era.
As they said. They put their hands on both sides and meet in the middle. That's what they did with the film. They started with the end and the beginning. Then we met in the middle. We are trained to assume continuity if shots are cut after another unless specifically pointed out as flashback/-forward. Otherwise it confuses viewers. But here they deliberately break that rule to emphasise the point of the movie. To give us a glimpse of how she percieves time now. And on top of that a great message. I loved the film when I first saw it. Usually I don't like "alien invasion" movies too much. And this film kinda shows why because it takes such a different approach and doesn't do the things I usually dislike. It also feels very realistic, like how our world would actually react to aliens showing up.
I also think it’s interesting to think about maybe Ian wasn’t mad at her like “why didn’t you tell me sooner” about the daughter but maybe he was like “why did you tell me that at all” ???? maybe rather than wishing he already knew, he actually couldn’t cope with knowing and just waiting for it to happen and he would rather have been in the dark? Could be either way and honestly I don’t know which way I’d feel either!
@@marslaraactually we don't know that. She held the burden alone way before the pregnancy. Knowing she will one day have a daughter and she will die from a disease. Without him knowing. And maybe one day they discussed about that burden. These flash forward memories that come and maybe he wanted her to tell him what's going on. And in the end... He couldn't bear it.
@@MaafaxKelen I mean regardless of how or why she decided to tell him I still think it's understandable why he would be upset. Again she knowingly went throught with it without telling him what she saw until it was too late. He probably would have left no matter what, but the issue was as a partner she didn't even give him a chance of being able to choose. Whether it's locked in stone or not that was not fair of her. The only exception is if for some reason she wasn't able to figure out the time thing and basically found out too late herself.
There's also a little detail on how Abbott was always the second to arrive, as if he was late. The thing is that he was not late at all; he was dreading his own death, that's why he was always the second one, like if it tooks him a lot knowing that in that room he was going to die. It's sad.
Y'all did a very good job at understanding the movie but I just wanna add some stuff that slips most people's analysis of the movie: Louise's timeline becomes non-linear when she obtains the gift. She is able to perceive her life from the past POV and from the future's POV, essentially connecting her timeline into a circle (non linear). This is also why Louise chose to name her daughter Hannah, which can be written or 'drawn' starting from either side (like a circle) Also: Louise asks at the end 'if you could see your whole life ahead of you, would you change things?' This implies that Louise's future is also non-linear because she has the OPTION of changing her future decisions. Through that fact, her past ALSO becomes non-linear because her 'future past' will change depending on what she decides to do with her non-linear future. This movie is my all time favorite.
What broke my heart about this was that she didn’t tell him because she wanted him to be full of joy and hope and to embrace this beauty knowing she would tell him eventually their child would die and he’d leave her in anger. How could she not tell him? She wanted him to be able to have a normal and happy life until their child was about to be sick. And she’s thinking (experiencing) the end and hugging him, knowing he’ll leave her because he will see it as a betrayal. So not just the child, but also the husband l, the happiness of being with him for those years alone…
So amazing that learning the language was the gift they intended for humanity to help them in 3000 years time and as to why she was having "flashbacks" as time isn't linear so she was subconsciously time travelling while learning the language. One of my favorite movies of all time. Thanks for reacting.
LOVEEEEEE this reaction, loved the theories you were throwing at each other. Love the moment you guys were discussing what was really going on, love it, love it, love it. I would be the girl saying "thank you for being smart and making me understand". I really enjoyed the collaboration, can't wait to see if you guys do it again.
Yes, I've been waiting for this one!!! Little fact about the movie : the dying words of the General Shang's wife was "In war there are no winners, only widows" which I believe really ties everything together. Thank you for this reaction, it was absolutely lovely! 💛
The worst thing is after discovering his body of work, and being enthralled due to this soundtrack, Johannssen passed away a few years later. His loss is so hard, he wasn’t even 50, I don’t think.
This is one of my top 10 movies of all time. I'm with Oak on this one, 5 out of 5 hands down, not even close. And let's not forget they created an actual language for this movie. The commitment of that alone makes this top notch. So many layers to this, and perfectly executed. Amazing movie. Im surprised no one ever mentions the curiousity of what the hell happens in 3000 years that aliens would need OUR help?! That is intriguing in and of itself. What a story. Thanks for the reaction!
The whole movie is a palindrome, it starts and ends the same way. The beginning is _actually_ the future, not just a vision. However, the movie makes you think she’s already experienced it, but actually gives away the whole twist in the opening narration: “We are so bound by time, by its order…now I don’t believe in beginnings or endings anymore.” People seem to get tripped up thinking that the opening was known to Louise before they arrived but that was just a narrative choice to throw viewers off. All of the actual “flashbacks” we see of Louise’s daughter only start _after_ she starts understanding the heptapod language. If you rewatch, after the first time she starts grasping it she sees the first real vision of Hannah. This movie is incredible and Amy Adams’ performance becomes even more impressive the second time around. You may not consciously _get_ it but there always feel like something is _off_ when we see Amy reacting to the images of Hannah. It’s only after you realize that she’s confused because she doesn’t have a child to you really appreciate how amazing of an acting job it is.
I always enjoy The Oak's post reaction comments and analysis. He really hits the nail on the head with this one. This movie hits so much different when you have children. I was crying like a baby at the end the first time I watched it
i am SO happy that y'all reacted to this. i clicked on the vid without having watched the movie but with all the comments saying that this was an amazing film, i paused this video, went to watch it, and now i'm here to see your reaction! this movie is simply beautiful. Thanks for introducing it to me 👍🏽
I love this film. It’s based on a short story I believe. I saw it at the London film festival premiere and there were a lot of tears, including mine. I cry every time. A lot of people talk about why she didn’t change things, but the point is she can’t. What happens happens. She now sees time like the aliens, from beginning to end all at once. It’s so sad, but beautiful at the same time. It’s insane that Amy Adams wasn’t oscar nominated for this. It’s also sad the composer died, as he was so talented.
There are a couple hints throughout the movie that tell you what's going on. Both the writing example in the beginning, talking about writing a sentence with both hands. Starting at both the beginning and the end at the same time. And, the multiple references to seeing or experiencing time as nonlinear. The story itself is also nonlinear. It also does a great job of playing on your expectations. We're so used to flashbacks that we initially assume that's what's going on. And that eureka moment when it becomes clear for you and you piece together that everything with Hannah is in the future.
It's probably my favorite science fiction movie. My pet theory is that there's only one ship that's in twelve places at once - that's why each location only gets about a two-hour window.
She didn't change anything about the time line, she eventually tells Ian and they break up, which in the end is not a big deal the main thing is she had Hannah knowing she was going to lose her. Such a powerful movie.
One of my favorite movies of all time. I have probably rewatched it at least 50 times. I love it every single time. It was so much fun watching all of you figuring it out and having those ah ha moments. Acting was incredible and the soundtrack was hauntingly beautiful. Great reaction!
I felt like this movie also rewired my brain. Literally, this movie comes full circle just like Hannah's name and the heptipods language. I disagree that the movie wasn't about the aliens. They knew they needed to come to earth, I think, to save themselves in 3000 years. The kicker was that just like our main character, Castello also knew he or she would lose Abbott in this journey across the stars and yet, they still decided to come to save their species and ours. Really brilliant movie. Loved the reaction guys. You guys give in depth takes and I always enjoy the discussions. 🔥
This movie is still one of my favorite of aaaalll time. I still listen to the soundtrack, throws me back in time when I watched the movie for the first time. Its creepy, yes but the aspect about it I love the most is the sense of wonder, touching the unknown, nothing I ever known before, question I didnt know was there to ask. And it is the truth, isnt it? We are bound by time, there is no escaping it for us. Thanks guyss for this, and maybe your friends can come join us again in the future reactions. I'm so happy we have more people this time 💐🤸🏻♀️✨🥰 And i dont know if any of you remember, i commented about this before, but will you guys watch DARK on netflix? Its an amazing show, in german, 3 seasons, 8 episodes each. I think you'll love it 🥰
The beginning of the film is literally her first dream about the future, exactly when the aliens arrive on earth. We only realize it when we see the news for the first time.
She can't see the future before the arrival of the heptapods. The first scene was just a scene of the future. She started seeing the future once she started learning the Heptapod's language.
@@WillyanWagner huh? Am I missing something? In my understanding, the first scene about her daughter was only a narration like she was telling it to her daughter, much like at the end when she did narration to her daughter. Her first dream about the future was a blurry vision of her daughter with some kind of plush giraffe, that's after she learned Abbott & Costello's names.
One of my favorite reactions on this channel. I think there was a misunderstanding at the end. Nothing changes. What happened in her future is written in stone.
The first time I watched this was for a school assignment and it blew my mind. I love how it made me think. It is so profound and confusing at the same time. Absolutely love this movie and love that you guys watched it! ❤
I find it fascinating watching reviews like this where the collective subconscious brains pick up on realities that are later revealed in the film, but the modern, conscious brains override the core basal human responses. Point in case, one of you asking if 'Ian is the Dad' after watching a visual exchange. We have forgotten more about our instinctive selves as a species than we could possibly comprehend.
The movie is based on the science fiction Novella "Story of Your Life" The most interesting thing about the movie to me is that when you first experience the movie you get the linear human view. You don't know how the story ends. If you then experience the story a second time, like by reading the novella, you get the alien view. You know how the story will end, you are experiencing the details being filled in.
I think there's a possibility that Louise did change how and when she told Ian. When there was the flash of her speaking to the General, he told her that she brought them all together by calling him on his personal phone, and she had absolutely no idea what he was talking about. There's no way Louise would forget that phone call, which suggests that there was some change that happened. When she asked Ian if he would change anything about his life, he said he would communicate more. It's possible that she told him early into their relationship, he accepted it, and then he later asked her if she wanted to have a baby, signaling that he wanted to experience this life with her despite the heartbreak.
Another interesting view is that she can see way ahead of the time we had been shown. For all we know she see's them getting back together again and that was just a moment in time where he was mad for awhile.
Something about this movie causes people that are trying so hard to break it down and understand it struggle with it. But if you just watch it without trying too hard. They give you everything you need to know when they want you to know it😂
I saw this in theater when it came out. I immediately wanted to watch it again. I downloaded the story to my eReader on the way home from the cinema. It continues to be amazing.
There's a lot of kudos for the director but it's based on a novella (Story of Your Life by Ted Chiang) so the mindblowing concept is from that. Denis Villeneuve directed it and it was one of those stories that you can imagine would be a nightmare to adapt the way it should be.
What a phenomenal movie. There are less than 10 movies that had me confused and bamboozled. Predestination and The Discovery are amongst the more noteworthy ones.
The song at the end that everyone likes also plays during the "last day montage" of Bill&Frank in The Last of Us episode 3. It's "On The Nature Of Daylight" by Max Richter and has been on my spotify since I saw Arrival several years ago. Fantastic film. Heartbreaking, but beautiful. Also, ever since I saw it, Denis Villeneuve has been my favorite director. He followed up with Blade Runner 2049 and Dune. Incredible.
Gotta say the discussion on would you change things by Oak...Is probably the only person ive seen react to this film that really gets it. I've seen multiple people react to this and almost every one of them acted like the right decision was to stop it from happening. It boggles my mind how someone that really thinks it through would have stolen that child's life away from them to avoid the pain of losing that child or as if it is some convoluted form of mercy to eliminate that life so they wouldn't suffer. And i think that though process is so foreign to me. Who are we to tell a person they shouldn't ever live to avoid pain. It is selfish. I think you put it perfectly that as a parent (that loves their child), you couldn't make any other decision.
Thinking about the future, awareness, the level of electromagnetic field that our brain has, healing, travel through dimensions are something that really happen with a certain degree of consciousness, here in Mexico, shamans or shamanism have practiced it and It is something real we have people like Maria Sabina and Pachita
I absolutely love this movie to the point that this movie and Interstellar go back and forth between my favorite and second favorite sci-fi movies that are not star wars. the story is amazing and it really makes you think. I remember not understanding it the first time I saw it but we watched it for a film class and we talked about this movie for like a week and it became one of my favorites because of how it relates time and language, the very beginning of the movie is the literal end of the story and the "flashbacks" of the daughter and glimpses of the future. I love that it is not a huge action movie where everything is fighting and exploding but it actually takes time to talk about language and time like how in Interstellar it is love that transcends time and space. The way that the characters learn to communicate through the shapes with it being all one thing for complex ideas is amazing. I love how they break down how important it is for them to take their time to make sure that the aliens understand our language and that we understand theirs by going through nouns, verbs, adjectives etc. instead of just going and asking "what do you want?" They also emphasize the importance of being able to understand what they are saying so that there is no confusion like with weapon vs tool. The movie is all science fiction but is about the very basic human need of being able to communicate and I love it. The short story that this is based on is also a really good read as well "Story of Your Life" you can get it in a collection book with the author's other short stories and they are all really good. As always, great reaction!
Another question is destiny vs being in control of your fate: can you change the future if you wanted to or is it set in stone? Seeing the future might not be a great weapon unless it is correct (and couldn't change).
This has been my favorite reaction of yours, hands down!!! For some reason or another, some people "guess" the correct ending, and some get their mind blowns. I always thought it was cool to be on this sidez but I'm losing so much by not having that "BAM SUPRISE MOTHERFUCKER" moment of it all makes sense know, it's so clever and fun and new! I love horror and scifi since 6yo, so my rolodex of possibilities in this specific case, for me, was obvious since the first suspect reaction/sentence about time. If it has time in it, movies and books dictates that it must be messed with! But you all had different reactions and understandings of different things, and added your own personal experiences to your interpretations, it's like a whole ass meal for someone like me. I love living vicariously through others 😂😂😂 but really, i do, but to learn even a little bit of different perspectives. The world is too big and has too many things for my tiny teeeeny little mind to even imagine to know in this life. But one can try and do it by others' own experiences, even if it's not how we'd live that moment, doesn't matter, just enjoy the ride. Lovely, everyone ❤ But Oak's reaction wins my heart for this one, it was so pure and new, I still have my mind blown moments, but they're farther and few between cause we consume so much everyday that must be almost impossible for new producers to surprise us. And those win Oscars. Everything Everywhere All At Once is my latest and will remain with me always, cause I recognize Joy as my own soul, but also recognize something of Evelyn, and amazing Waymond, and everyone! But specially, I recognize Jabu. It's been in my life since before I was born. This movie blew my mind cause I never expect to see myself and especially not my Shadow being on any screen, let alone like this! It was so special, sad, hurting, healing, beautiful. Anyway, Arrival is one of my favorite movies, loved the reaction ❤ Oh!! And I forgot to say how it felt like the closest to watching it for the first time, the best feeling ❤ And since I've watched it before several times and all kinds of videos on it, I thought I knew every secret, but watching it again with you guys taking over for details, my mind relaxed and I noticed things my mind hadn't put together till now!! Like the way Hannah was sick could be related to the aliens (physiologically), and if they knew that but decided it was worth one life for billions of their species, how she was chosen because she was one of (if not the only one) the people that would get that gift and when meeting in the middle timewise, she would get the job done. Or if they tried other times in the future with other people like her (the war starts because of the aliens, to begin with, so maybe it's not their first try?), and so many other things outside and inside the script and vision. Cool stuff.
There are maybe NO movies that can make you THINK and FEEL to the depths that this one does. Many do one of those, but few do both SO successfully. Great comments everyone, and the guy who gave it a 5? He was correct. LOL!
Perfect movies like this as rare. Only note: a small screen of the characters in China and Russia who were making progress and frustrated by their army (assume many had the same idea. Xoxo )
This movie sure confused all of you way more than it did me 😆 I really love the concept, the design of the aliens and the sound design. Kinda wished for a little more language related stuff, but that's just me.
Mr.and Mrs. FLIXs would have figured it out eventually, as we all got there at various times. The reveal was fantastic. Only two M Night movies, Signs and the Sixth sense, plus Interstellar had better twists.
Even the set up of her house mimics the alien ship structure with the large glass windows. And the ending scenes with Ian outside and Louise inside taping on the window to try and communicate with him. Did she just tell him what was coming?
There was no first or second time.... there is only one timeline. Movie just played with us to get confused. This is one of my TOP TOP TOP 5 best movies ever.
A 'short story' doesn't necessarily have to be short. It usually is, but the defining points are an open beginning and an open end, meaning that we don't get information on the protagonist or the world before the story starts or after it ends. We only get to know them during the event of the story.
The biggest misconception about this movie is that she’s seeing the future. She isn’t, she’s experiencing time non linearly like the aliens. She’s experiencing her life out of order all at once. Almost lie she can travel through time.
Hit HARRRRRD LOL! LOVE that freaking movie bro (watched it a couple weeks back after seeing another reaction channel doing it), I think it is truly one of the finest Love Story's ever written/performed in the History of cinema! It's double feely now because of Robin Williams.
I think the key theory/idea to understanding this movie is that the aliens do not perceive time as we do (in a linear way) , all of existence to them is happening at the same "time". There is no past or future. The past, present, and future is happening all at once. There are creatures whose lifespans are a few days. To us that's nothing. Their births and deaths are within such short spans, it's practically no time at all. Imagine a being that could live a very long time or maybe one that could live an infinite amount time. Theoretically they could perceive time where all of it, at least what is "time" to us, is happening all at once. So my birth, life, and death is happening all at once. That is how Louise is able to "remember" the general's phone number she will get in "the future". It's not really that event are happening in a circle or loop, but it's that maybe it's helpful to think about events happening on a plate, like you're being served everything all at once. And the movie talked about The Sapir-Whorf Theory where language shapes how you think and theoretically if you understand a language it can rewire your brain to think like the people of that language and so when Louise started to understand the alien language she started to perceive time like the aliens.
Please do The Last King of Scotland. It has Forest Whitaker and James McAvoy. It's a strong movie and one that I know The Oak will dissect with the moral ambiguity presented by the lead role for the majority of the film.
She's not writing the language in the future dummies, she is writing it in the PAST. The language gave her the power to be in all points in time at once, to change her past.
If I remember correctly, the short story (The Story of Your Life) explains that knowing the future means she can't change it, to change it she can't know it. She is not seeing the future but she is living it at those moments. She's remembering a future that already happened because time is a circle for her. So she will choose to have her daughter because she already made that choice, in the future.
@@druidriley3163 But to have the baby was her choice, it's her will. It's just that she knows what she'll choose and what'll happen as a consequence, but it's still her choice.
@@druidriley3163 on that we will have to agree to disagree. Lots of people die of horrible diseases like cancer. Everybody dies, and only the lucky die painlessly. And even then, lots of people don't regret living. She knew her daughter and maybe she knows her daughter didn't regret living. Louise chose to deal with the pain of losing a daughter so that her daughter could live. I don't see that as selfish, but the opposite.
@@yadiracamacho499 Again, Louise is making that decision FOR her daughter, What gives her that right? She is entirely responsible for the pain and suffering her daughter goes through. And why? So she can have good fuzzy warm memories about the life her daugher led? How utterly narcissistic and selfish. How many lies did she tell her daughter? When her daughter talked about what she would be when she grew up, what school she wanted to attend, heck even what it would be like when she got married and had her own kids How many lies did Louise tell her child? And she knew she was doing wrong _because she didn't tell Ian_ Louise makes me sick, frankly.
What a fantastic, wild, confusing at moments film! Cast and crew did awesome with this! What was your reaction? What did we miss?
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I'd seriously recommend all of Denis's filmography, starting with Incendies. It's one of his first movies but it's one of the greatest films of the last decade, tbh. His later ones have been phenomenal for sure, but do definitely check that one out.
Did you notice that Abbott is late to arrive the last time because he knows he is arriving to his death.
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One of the beautiful things about this movie to me is that she isn’t seeing the future, she’s just experiencing different parts of her life all at the same time. She’s not manipulating what happens in order to avoid a certain outcome; instead, all these experiences intertwine and inform each other. In her mind, her daughter doesn’t die in the future; she is both present, yet to be born, and already gone, and Louise just chooses to experience it all. She doesn’t choose not to tell Ian this time because he leaves; she already will tell him, already has, and knew he would leave all along. It’s incredible, and I loved rewatching it with you all.
Very well said. Louise did say that time is not linear.
but she could change it
This is well put!
Edit: let me correct that, this is *REALLY* well put!
@@musicmashup9597 i used to agree but, im gonna be honest, i don't think she can
what she experiences is pretty much the Doctor Manhattan experience-she lives every moment in time at once. She can focus on one moment, of course, but not stop experiencing it all. And when you're everywhere in time, everything is already in the past. Done and gone. Even if she tried to do something different in one moment, she's already in the future and in the past
@@fernandoc5536 But then why does she asks Ian whether he would change his life or not if he knew his life from start to finish?
Keep in mind the alien knew he was going to die but still went through with it.
That’s why he’s late to the chamber. He already knows, but he also knows he dies in minutes. Talk about nervous!
That's probably also why they were both in the corner when they planted the explosives. It was the last time they would be able to speak to each other before the others arrived and they needed to tell them, so they probably had some sort of parting. Since their live experiences are nonlinear, it might be less emotional than it would be for us, but it probably still meant something to them. Lovely creatures.
Anyone who learns their language will be able to perceive time as the aliens do - not just Louise. She was the first. In 3,000 years they need our help collectively, not Louise specifically. Louise is the one to bring their language to the world.
My favorite thing about this channel is that Oak is always the most skeptical about movies like Arrival and Harry Potter, and then, once he’s done with them, he is always is the most impacted, the most moved, the most permanently changed. That’s precious.
When the credits roll on this one, everyone is chattering excitedly, but he sits there, somberly, quietly, really absorbing the sheer gravity and sorrow of what he just witnessed.
And at the same time, as soon as this video started, I noticed that he’s the only one with like three pieces of Harry Potter memorabilia on his desk 😆.
He genuinely takes something away from seeing these incredible, powerful films.
And I love that so much about him.
He’s hesitant and mentions lots of movies that he started and didn’t finish or somehow lost interest in. Sit him down and make him watch something and he really gets invested. Great stuff!
To clarify, their language, really learning it and becoming fluent, is what makes you able to experience time all at once. Implication is that Louise will start the process of teaching whoever can learn and push humanity forward toward a new era.
As they said. They put their hands on both sides and meet in the middle. That's what they did with the film. They started with the end and the beginning. Then we met in the middle.
We are trained to assume continuity if shots are cut after another unless specifically pointed out as flashback/-forward. Otherwise it confuses viewers. But here they deliberately break that rule to emphasise the point of the movie. To give us a glimpse of how she percieves time now. And on top of that a great message.
I loved the film when I first saw it. Usually I don't like "alien invasion" movies too much. And this film kinda shows why because it takes such a different approach and doesn't do the things I usually dislike. It also feels very realistic, like how our world would actually react to aliens showing up.
Holy- I'm gonna have to quote you on that "meet in the middle" when explaining the fascination I have with this movie to other people
I also think it’s interesting to think about maybe Ian wasn’t mad at her like “why didn’t you tell me sooner” about the daughter but maybe he was like “why did you tell me that at all” ???? maybe rather than wishing he already knew, he actually couldn’t cope with knowing and just waiting for it to happen and he would rather have been in the dark? Could be either way and honestly I don’t know which way I’d feel either!
Well I could see how cruel that is from his perspective, she knowingly brought him into that painful scenario without giving him a choice.
I always read it as him being mad that she went through with having a child knowing that they would lose her.
@@gingetomassi8153 That is exactly the reason, it is made explicit in the original book "Stories of my life" by Ted Chiang.
@@marslaraactually we don't know that. She held the burden alone way before the pregnancy. Knowing she will one day have a daughter and she will die from a disease. Without him knowing.
And maybe one day they discussed about that burden. These flash forward memories that come and maybe he wanted her to tell him what's going on. And in the end... He couldn't bear it.
@@MaafaxKelen I mean regardless of how or why she decided to tell him I still think it's understandable why he would be upset. Again she knowingly went throught with it without telling him what she saw until it was too late.
He probably would have left no matter what, but the issue was as a partner she didn't even give him a chance of being able to choose. Whether it's locked in stone or not that was not fair of her.
The only exception is if for some reason she wasn't able to figure out the time thing and basically found out too late herself.
There's also a little detail on how Abbott was always the second to arrive, as if he was late. The thing is that he was not late at all; he was dreading his own death, that's why he was always the second one, like if it tooks him a lot knowing that in that room he was going to die. It's sad.
That is an interesting thought. I guess you might be right. But he had to do it anyway.
Even more beautiful fact is that they accept the names "Abbott and Costello". Names that Louise and Ian gave them.
@@captbunnykiller1.0he must not have known on which of those days he would die either.
Y'all did a very good job at understanding the movie but I just wanna add some stuff that slips most people's analysis of the movie: Louise's timeline becomes non-linear when she obtains the gift. She is able to perceive her life from the past POV and from the future's POV, essentially connecting her timeline into a circle (non linear). This is also why Louise chose to name her daughter Hannah, which can be written or 'drawn' starting from either side (like a circle)
Also: Louise asks at the end 'if you could see your whole life ahead of you, would you change things?' This implies that Louise's future is also non-linear because she has the OPTION of changing her future decisions. Through that fact, her past ALSO becomes non-linear because her 'future past' will change depending on what she decides to do with her non-linear future.
This movie is my all time favorite.
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What broke my heart about this was that she didn’t tell him because she wanted him to be full of joy and hope and to embrace this beauty knowing she would tell him eventually their child would die and he’d leave her in anger. How could she not tell him? She wanted him to be able to have a normal and happy life until their child was about to be sick. And she’s thinking (experiencing) the end and hugging him, knowing he’ll leave her because he will see it as a betrayal. So not just the child, but also the husband l, the happiness of being with him for those years alone…
I know, it's so selfish!
So amazing that learning the language was the gift they intended for humanity to help them in 3000 years time and as to why she was having "flashbacks" as time isn't linear so she was subconsciously time travelling while learning the language. One of my favorite movies of all time. Thanks for reacting.
LOVEEEEEE this reaction, loved the theories you were throwing at each other. Love the moment you guys were discussing what was really going on, love it, love it, love it. I would be the girl saying "thank you for being smart and making me understand". I really enjoyed the collaboration, can't wait to see if you guys do it again.
Glad you enjoyed! This movie was wild!
@@BaddMedicine it really is. Still watching the review, I liked the way Diamond did a recap of the movie, amazing review.
Yes, I've been waiting for this one!!!
Little fact about the movie : the dying words of the General Shang's wife was "In war there are no winners, only widows" which I believe really ties everything together. Thank you for this reaction, it was absolutely lovely! 💛
Original score is by Johan Johansson but the opening and closing track is by Max Richter called 'On the Nature of Daylight.'
The worst thing is after discovering his body of work, and being enthralled due to this soundtrack, Johannssen passed away a few years later. His loss is so hard, he wasn’t even 50, I don’t think.
@@crowquillgal1016 yeah he was great composer, Arrival and Sicario OST are some of the best made.
This is one of my top 10 movies of all time. I'm with Oak on this one, 5 out of 5 hands down, not even close. And let's not forget they created an actual language for this movie. The commitment of that alone makes this top notch. So many layers to this, and perfectly executed. Amazing movie. Im surprised no one ever mentions the curiousity of what the hell happens in 3000 years that aliens would need OUR help?! That is intriguing in and of itself. What a story. Thanks for the reaction!
The whole movie is a palindrome, it starts and ends the same way. The beginning is _actually_ the future, not just a vision. However, the movie makes you think she’s already experienced it, but actually gives away the whole twist in the opening narration: “We are so bound by time, by its order…now I don’t believe in beginnings or endings anymore.”
People seem to get tripped up thinking that the opening was known to Louise before they arrived but that was just a narrative choice to throw viewers off.
All of the actual “flashbacks” we see of Louise’s daughter only start _after_ she starts understanding the heptapod language. If you rewatch, after the first time she starts grasping it she sees the first real vision of Hannah.
This movie is incredible and Amy Adams’ performance becomes even more impressive the second time around. You may not consciously _get_ it but there always feel like something is _off_ when we see Amy reacting to the images of Hannah. It’s only after you realize that she’s confused because she doesn’t have a child to you really appreciate how amazing of an acting job it is.
I always enjoy The Oak's post reaction comments and analysis. He really hits the nail on the head with this one. This movie hits so much different when you have children. I was crying like a baby at the end the first time I watched it
i am SO happy that y'all reacted to this. i clicked on the vid without having watched the movie but with all the comments saying that this was an amazing film, i paused this video, went to watch it, and now i'm here to see your reaction! this movie is simply beautiful. Thanks for introducing it to me 👍🏽
I love this film. It’s based on a short story I believe. I saw it at the London film festival premiere and there were a lot of tears, including mine. I cry every time. A lot of people talk about why she didn’t change things, but the point is she can’t. What happens happens. She now sees time like the aliens, from beginning to end all at once. It’s so sad, but beautiful at the same time. It’s insane that Amy Adams wasn’t oscar nominated for this. It’s also sad the composer died, as he was so talented.
There are a couple hints throughout the movie that tell you what's going on. Both the writing example in the beginning, talking about writing a sentence with both hands. Starting at both the beginning and the end at the same time.
And, the multiple references to seeing or experiencing time as nonlinear. The story itself is also nonlinear. It also does a great job of playing on your expectations. We're so used to flashbacks that we initially assume that's what's going on. And that eureka moment when it becomes clear for you and you piece together that everything with Hannah is in the future.
Oak is so sensitive and emotionally intelligent and we are all here for it 🌞
It's probably my favorite science fiction movie. My pet theory is that there's only one ship that's in twelve places at once - that's why each location only gets about a two-hour window.
Good catch. My idea was that the ships weren't really there at all. They were just doorways to elsewhere. Like when Louise enters the pod.
This is such an amazing and deep movie. So glad to see your reactions!
She didn't change anything about the time line, she eventually tells Ian and they break up, which in the end is not a big deal the main thing is she had Hannah knowing she was going to lose her. Such a powerful movie.
What a beautiful and absolutely heart wrenching movie.
One of my favorite movies of all time. I have probably rewatched it at least 50 times. I love it every single time. It was so much fun watching all of you figuring it out and having those ah ha moments. Acting was incredible and the soundtrack was hauntingly beautiful. Great reaction!
Fun fact, this movie was Denis making a Dune style movie before he knew he would adapt dune. The aliens are even inspired by the space navigators
I felt like this movie also rewired my brain. Literally, this movie comes full circle just like Hannah's name and the heptipods language. I disagree that the movie wasn't about the aliens. They knew they needed to come to earth, I think, to save themselves in 3000 years. The kicker was that just like our main character, Castello also knew he or she would lose Abbott in this journey across the stars and yet, they still decided to come to save their species and ours. Really brilliant movie. Loved the reaction guys. You guys give in depth takes and I always enjoy the discussions. 🔥
Easily one of my FAVORITE movies
This movie is still one of my favorite of aaaalll time. I still listen to the soundtrack, throws me back in time when I watched the movie for the first time. Its creepy, yes but the aspect about it I love the most is the sense of wonder, touching the unknown, nothing I ever known before, question I didnt know was there to ask. And it is the truth, isnt it? We are bound by time, there is no escaping it for us.
Thanks guyss for this, and maybe your friends can come join us again in the future reactions. I'm so happy we have more people this time 💐🤸🏻♀️✨🥰
And i dont know if any of you remember, i commented about this before, but will you guys watch DARK on netflix? Its an amazing show, in german, 3 seasons, 8 episodes each. I think you'll love it 🥰
What I love the most about this movie is it's focus on language. As a linguistics nerd this fascinated and amazed me the most.
The beginning of the film is literally her first dream about the future, exactly when the aliens arrive on earth. We only realize it when we see the news for the first time.
She can't see the future before the arrival of the heptapods. The first scene was just a scene of the future. She started seeing the future once she started learning the Heptapod's language.
@@EsperUltima it's was at the same day
@@WillyanWagner huh? Am I missing something? In my understanding, the first scene about her daughter was only a narration like she was telling it to her daughter, much like at the end when she did narration to her daughter. Her first dream about the future was a blurry vision of her daughter with some kind of plush giraffe, that's after she learned Abbott & Costello's names.
One of my favorite reactions on this channel. I think there was a misunderstanding at the end. Nothing changes. What happened in her future is written in stone.
In all futures. There is no free will. Kinda depressing.
One of my favourite films, thanks for watching!
Badd Medicine has never brought me to tears before today. Thanks Oak. Sincerely.
I was thinking 6 people watching a movie together was going to be a disaster and nobody would hear anything. But they did pretty good.
Masterpiece. Amy Adams was inspired casting. If you knew… would you!?! Heartbreaking.
The first time I watched this was for a school assignment and it blew my mind. I love how it made me think. It is so profound and confusing at the same time. Absolutely love this movie and love that you guys watched it! ❤
I find it fascinating watching reviews like this where the collective subconscious brains pick up on realities that are later revealed in the film, but the modern, conscious brains override the core basal human responses. Point in case, one of you asking if 'Ian is the Dad' after watching a visual exchange. We have forgotten more about our instinctive selves as a species than we could possibly comprehend.
The movie is based on the science fiction Novella "Story of Your Life" The most interesting thing about the movie to me is that when you first experience the movie you get the linear human view. You don't know how the story ends. If you then experience the story a second time, like by reading the novella, you get the alien view. You know how the story will end, you are experiencing the details being filled in.
No. You can see more than one time. I see it 5 times now and it good every time.
I think there's a possibility that Louise did change how and when she told Ian. When there was the flash of her speaking to the General, he told her that she brought them all together by calling him on his personal phone, and she had absolutely no idea what he was talking about. There's no way Louise would forget that phone call, which suggests that there was some change that happened. When she asked Ian if he would change anything about his life, he said he would communicate more. It's possible that she told him early into their relationship, he accepted it, and then he later asked her if she wanted to have a baby, signaling that he wanted to experience this life with her despite the heartbreak.
I've watched it many times and it still hits home. I love it.
Another interesting view is that she can see way ahead of the time we had been shown. For all we know she see's them getting back together again and that was just a moment in time where he was mad for awhile.
Something about this movie causes people that are trying so hard to break it down and understand it struggle with it. But if you just watch it without trying too hard. They give you everything you need to know when they want you to know it😂
I saw this in theater when it came out. I immediately wanted to watch it again. I downloaded the story to my eReader on the way home from the cinema. It continues to be amazing.
There's a lot of kudos for the director but it's based on a novella (Story of Your Life by Ted Chiang) so the mindblowing concept is from that. Denis Villeneuve directed it and it was one of those stories that you can imagine would be a nightmare to adapt the way it should be.
What a phenomenal movie. There are less than 10 movies that had me confused and bamboozled. Predestination and The Discovery are amongst the more noteworthy ones.
The song at the end that everyone likes also plays during the "last day montage" of Bill&Frank in The Last of Us episode 3. It's "On The Nature Of Daylight" by Max Richter and has been on my spotify since I saw Arrival several years ago. Fantastic film. Heartbreaking, but beautiful.
Also, ever since I saw it, Denis Villeneuve has been my favorite director. He followed up with Blade Runner 2049 and Dune. Incredible.
Gotta say the discussion on would you change things by Oak...Is probably the only person ive seen react to this film that really gets it. I've seen multiple people react to this and almost every one of them acted like the right decision was to stop it from happening. It boggles my mind how someone that really thinks it through would have stolen that child's life away from them to avoid the pain of losing that child or as if it is some convoluted form of mercy to eliminate that life so they wouldn't suffer. And i think that though process is so foreign to me. Who are we to tell a person they shouldn't ever live to avoid pain. It is selfish. I think you put it perfectly that as a parent (that loves their child), you couldn't make any other decision.
Thinking about the future, awareness, the level of electromagnetic field that our brain has, healing, travel through dimensions are something that really happen with a certain degree of consciousness, here in Mexico, shamans or shamanism have practiced it and It is something real we have people like Maria Sabina and Pachita
There's only one totally unrealistic thing in this movie: That a college teacher could afford a house like hers in today's world.
I absolutely love this movie to the point that this movie and Interstellar go back and forth between my favorite and second favorite sci-fi movies that are not star wars. the story is amazing and it really makes you think. I remember not understanding it the first time I saw it but we watched it for a film class and we talked about this movie for like a week and it became one of my favorites because of how it relates time and language, the very beginning of the movie is the literal end of the story and the "flashbacks" of the daughter and glimpses of the future. I love that it is not a huge action movie where everything is fighting and exploding but it actually takes time to talk about language and time like how in Interstellar it is love that transcends time and space. The way that the characters learn to communicate through the shapes with it being all one thing for complex ideas is amazing. I love how they break down how important it is for them to take their time to make sure that the aliens understand our language and that we understand theirs by going through nouns, verbs, adjectives etc. instead of just going and asking "what do you want?" They also emphasize the importance of being able to understand what they are saying so that there is no confusion like with weapon vs tool. The movie is all science fiction but is about the very basic human need of being able to communicate and I love it. The short story that this is based on is also a really good read as well "Story of Your Life" you can get it in a collection book with the author's other short stories and they are all really good. As always, great reaction!
I definitely got a lot out of re-watching this movie. And yeah the music is phenomenal. Villeneuve movies always seem to have such great soundtracks!
Another question is destiny vs being in control of your fate: can you change the future if you wanted to or is it set in stone? Seeing the future might not be a great weapon unless it is correct (and couldn't change).
this movie is a work of art.
This has been my favorite reaction of yours, hands down!!! For some reason or another, some people "guess" the correct ending, and some get their mind blowns. I always thought it was cool to be on this sidez but I'm losing so much by not having that "BAM SUPRISE MOTHERFUCKER" moment of it all makes sense know, it's so clever and fun and new! I love horror and scifi since 6yo, so my rolodex of possibilities in this specific case, for me, was obvious since the first suspect reaction/sentence about time. If it has time in it, movies and books dictates that it must be messed with! But you all had different reactions and understandings of different things, and added your own personal experiences to your interpretations, it's like a whole ass meal for someone like me. I love living vicariously through others 😂😂😂 but really, i do, but to learn even a little bit of different perspectives. The world is too big and has too many things for my tiny teeeeny little mind to even imagine to know in this life. But one can try and do it by others' own experiences, even if it's not how we'd live that moment, doesn't matter, just enjoy the ride. Lovely, everyone ❤ But Oak's reaction wins my heart for this one, it was so pure and new, I still have my mind blown moments, but they're farther and few between cause we consume so much everyday that must be almost impossible for new producers to surprise us. And those win Oscars. Everything Everywhere All At Once is my latest and will remain with me always, cause I recognize Joy as my own soul, but also recognize something of Evelyn, and amazing Waymond, and everyone! But specially, I recognize Jabu. It's been in my life since before I was born. This movie blew my mind cause I never expect to see myself and especially not my Shadow being on any screen, let alone like this! It was so special, sad, hurting, healing, beautiful.
Anyway, Arrival is one of my favorite movies, loved the reaction ❤
Oh!! And I forgot to say how it felt like the closest to watching it for the first time, the best feeling ❤ And since I've watched it before several times and all kinds of videos on it, I thought I knew every secret, but watching it again with you guys taking over for details, my mind relaxed and I noticed things my mind hadn't put together till now!! Like the way Hannah was sick could be related to the aliens (physiologically), and if they knew that but decided it was worth one life for billions of their species, how she was chosen because she was one of (if not the only one) the people that would get that gift and when meeting in the middle timewise, she would get the job done. Or if they tried other times in the future with other people like her (the war starts because of the aliens, to begin with, so maybe it's not their first try?), and so many other things outside and inside the script and vision. Cool stuff.
This was such a fun concept, when I originally read it. Kinda disappointed it isn't a longer series.
I have been waiting for you guys to react to this!!! Can't wait to watch your reaction!
General Shangs wife's dying words were "In war there are no winners, only widows."
Once you see the future, it already happened. No choices to make. This is a deterministic scenario, like in "Interstellar".
The worst thing is that we have to wait 3000 years for a sequel!
This is one of my favorite movies, it's beautiful
I hope you can make a reaction video on another Jeremy Renner movie called Hansel and Gretel The Witch Hunters.
Thank you.
One of my favorite sci fi movies
The words she says to the general on the phone is something like" In war there are no winners, only widows."
What a great collab! Love seeing y'all react to this!
I love how the guy who has seen the movie spoils it 2/3 the way through.
You guys are awesome, and can you think this director made Incendies? He mixes humanity with great pictures.
Enjoyed ur reaction. I've seen the movie a few times. I liked ur interaction w/ur guests. I subscribe to Mr&Mrs also.
There are maybe NO movies that can make you THINK and FEEL to the depths that this one does. Many do one of those, but few do both SO successfully. Great comments everyone, and the guy who gave it a 5? He was correct. LOL!
Can someone tell me where the 'ready willing and able' gag started from and why there seems to be no diminishing returns on how funny it is?
Great reaction. One of the most beautiful films ever.
Oak was really spot on with this one! 👏🏻
I watched this movie one night...didn't expect it to be so good since I watch movies without reading/ watching anything too much about it
🔄This movie was astounding, it is astounding, and it will be astounding. 🔄
Perfect movies like this as rare. Only note: a small screen of the characters in China and Russia who were making progress and frustrated by their army (assume many had the same idea. Xoxo )
It's been weird not having the Answer watching the last of us. Stoked to watch this with all yall and bonus baddies.
The Oak never disappoints. Always so insightful.
That's why we love the Oak
This movie sure confused all of you way more than it did me 😆
I really love the concept, the design of the aliens and the sound design. Kinda wished for a little more language related stuff, but that's just me.
Mr.and Mrs. FLIXs would have figured it out eventually, as we all got there at various times. The reveal was fantastic. Only two M Night movies, Signs and the Sixth sense, plus Interstellar had better twists.
Im here for this again
Even the set up of her house mimics the alien ship structure with the large glass windows. And the ending scenes with Ian outside and Louise inside taping on the window to try and
communicate with him. Did she just tell him what was coming?
Oak, thank you for getting it.
There was no first or second time.... there is only one timeline. Movie just played with us to get confused.
This is one of my TOP TOP TOP 5 best movies ever.
A 'short story' doesn't necessarily have to be short. It usually is, but the defining points are an open beginning and an open end, meaning that we don't get information on the protagonist or the world before the story starts or after it ends. We only get to know them during the event of the story.
The biggest misconception about this movie is that she’s seeing the future. She isn’t, she’s experiencing time non linearly like the aliens. She’s experiencing her life out of order all at once. Almost lie she can travel through time.
The oak was 100% correct on how it plays out. Also u guys should watch all of Dennis villenueves movies he makes bangers
I would love to see you guys react to What Dreams May Come. Just be prepared to get hit hard in the feels.
Hit HARRRRRD LOL! LOVE that freaking movie bro (watched it a couple weeks back after seeing another reaction channel doing it), I think it is truly one of the finest Love Story's ever written/performed in the History of cinema! It's double feely now because of Robin Williams.
I think the key theory/idea to understanding this movie is that the aliens do not perceive time as we do (in a linear way) , all of existence to them is happening at the same "time". There is no past or future. The past, present, and future is happening all at once. There are creatures whose lifespans are a few days. To us that's nothing. Their births and deaths are within such short spans, it's practically no time at all. Imagine a being that could live a very long time or maybe one that could live an infinite amount time. Theoretically they could perceive time where all of it, at least what is "time" to us, is happening all at once. So my birth, life, and death is happening all at once. That is how Louise is able to "remember" the general's phone number she will get in "the future". It's not really that event are happening in a circle or loop, but it's that maybe it's helpful to think about events happening on a plate, like you're being served everything all at once. And the movie talked about The Sapir-Whorf Theory where language shapes how you think and theoretically if you understand a language it can rewire your brain to think like the people of that language and so when Louise started to understand the alien language she started to perceive time like the aliens.
Brian and Bianca are the best!
Please do The Last King of Scotland. It has Forest Whitaker and James McAvoy. It's a strong movie and one that I know The Oak will dissect with the moral ambiguity presented by the lead role for the majority of the film.
Recommendations:
-"The Last Wave" (1977) starring Richard Chamberlan, directed by Peter Weir
-"Warm Bodies" (2013) starring Nicholas Hoult
There is no choice to be made, because the choice already has been made,. Everything happens at the same time, time is not linear.
She's not writing the language in the future dummies, she is writing it in the PAST.
The language gave her the power to be in all points in time at once, to change her past.
I love this movie! Thanks for reacting!
one of the best sci-fi movies ever
Speaking of Forrest Whitaker, I highly recommend The Last King of Scotland. Bonus - an always phenomenal James McAvoy!
If I remember correctly, the short story (The Story of Your Life) explains that knowing the future means she can't change it, to change it she can't know it. She is not seeing the future but she is living it at those moments. She's remembering a future that already happened because time is a circle for her. So she will choose to have her daughter because she already made that choice, in the future.
Which makes the movie pretty depressing. Time is fixed, there is no free will and your path is already laid out,
@@druidriley3163 But to have the baby was her choice, it's her will. It's just that she knows what she'll choose and what'll happen as a consequence, but it's still her choice.
@@yadiracamacho499 That only makes Louise incredibly selfish and despicable.
@@druidriley3163 on that we will have to agree to disagree. Lots of people die of horrible diseases like cancer. Everybody dies, and only the lucky die painlessly. And even then, lots of people don't regret living. She knew her daughter and maybe she knows her daughter didn't regret living. Louise chose to deal with the pain of losing a daughter so that her daughter could live. I don't see that as selfish, but the opposite.
@@yadiracamacho499 Again, Louise is making that decision FOR her daughter, What gives her that right? She is entirely responsible for the pain and suffering her daughter goes through. And why? So she can have good fuzzy warm memories about the life her daugher led? How utterly narcissistic and selfish. How many lies did she tell her daughter? When her daughter talked about what she would be when she grew up, what school she wanted to attend, heck even what it would be like when she got married and had her own kids How many lies did Louise tell her child? And she knew she was doing wrong _because she didn't tell Ian_ Louise makes me sick, frankly.