@@coltrxne2154He was better than Trent last year. Penei is the most physically dominant Olineman in the NFL. And his technique will only continue to improve year over year. Penei is only 23, so he hasn't even hit peak his MAN STRENGTH yet. And now he has kids, so add dad strength to that lol.
Finally someone giving Kupp the respect he deserves. Dude has been elite. Started on fire then gets hurt and everyone forgets about him. I'm all in for the disrespect, I'll take him late in every league.
So no love for my man Kenneth Walker? His rookie year in 2022 he started only 11 games and played In 15 and rushed for 1050 yards at 4.6 YPA, with 9 rushing TDs. His second year last year he played in and started 15 games and had 905 rushing yards, 4.1 YPA. 8 rushing TDs, with 29 catches for 259 yards and 1 td. His rookie year he caught 27 passes for 165 I forgot to add that.
PFF grades St Brown in the top 3 overall each year, and his stats back it up, but they still won’t put him up there in their rankings because what they perceive as a lack of jaw dropping big play wow factor. He’s just gonna put up another nonchalant 125 for 1600 and grade overall in the top 3 again 😂
Yeah, Sam and Trevor diverged quite a bit from actual PFF Grades from 2023. The Sun God might be my first round fantasy pick this year (pick 11, snake, 12 team PPR League).
@@jaha777jaha6 Gibbs only fumbled once in the regular season, and didn't lose that one. The playoff fumble, which he lost, obviously came at the worst time. It's really not an issue tho.
@@LionsOnTheHunt313 I think the offense will be good again this season and if they can get past GB should win the conference those guys are stacked ,think they just got a premiere cb from Seattle too...
Actual PFF QB Grades calculated from 2023 were: 10)Goff 85.7 9)Cousins 86.1 8)Hurts 86.7 7)Tua 86.9 6)Purdy 87.4 5)Stafford 88.2 4) Dak 90 3)Lamar 90.4 2) Mahomes 90.5 and 1) Allen 92.1 That is the baseline. Now look Sam's, Trevor's, and your opinions to see how they diverge. They're calling dramatic bounce backs from Rodgers, Burrow, and Herbert, and dramatic regression from Purdy and Tua. (I don't really buy either) Also, last year's analytics do show a clear QB#1, well ahead of the others, but it wasn't Mahomes.
The explosion of price for top WRs is a factor in why they are being drafted in the first round so much. Getting them on the cheap is a lot more logical than it used to be.
Lol Jackson over Allen is hilarious. Jackson was gifted the MVP last season for being the qb of the team with the best record while having mid ranged stats lol
He may be but it's hard to judge him in a vacuum when he has arguably the best supporting cast in football (not his fault but affects people's perception of him).
@@FlexileTheWolf I get it but you really can’t discredit the guy from his year 1 numbers to year 2 jump. He’s definitely shown to be a top qb so far in his career just my perspective.
People are still in disbelief that he was the last person drafted in his class. If he were drafted in the 1st round people's perception of him would be different.
Purdy has to be top 10 somewhere, he's deadly accurate and makes consistent reads over the season...I know the secondary is great but purdy makes it all work and should be recognized
I'm not a huge QB wins guy, but as someone who has been in the stadium when Herbert has had the ball in a tie game with 90 seconds left and timeouts against my team....no fear at all.
Absolutely correct. This is what keeps him from being as good as his talent suggests. Of course it’s not his fault when the defense allows a last possession score to lose the game, but so many times he has the ball in the last 2 minutes and just doesn’t get the job done.
Not really when you have good multiple seasons, rookie of the year and one season he threw for 5k and 38 touchdowns. Probably had a better season then your favorite minus mahommes
@@boltgang6192 My favorite has two MVPs. But I understand he’s good I’m not taking that away from him but outside of individual performance he hasn’t shown anything they even like in this video act like he’s never had a supporting cast to justify winning. He’s had very good to great teammates. No reason he shouldn’t be in the Allen Lamar Burrow convo but he’s more closer to Dak in terms of production than ppl want to realize.
@@tybones2222 He didn’t struggle bad he played against the best defense in the league and his rookie receiver fumbled at the 1 which caused the offense to press. Where was Herbert during the process of that game ?
Analysts are so enamored by elite physical intangibles and raw numbers that they fail to see that as long as Mahomes is healthy, the chargers will never win that division, let alone make a deep playoff run.
Rankings like this always piss off the goobers in the comments. It’s not gospel guys. You’re allowed to disagree and simultaneously not throw a temper tantrum 😭
Justin Herbert are for those guys that just love passing yards. The finesse dudes. I’m glad that he has a coach that people view that is good. No excuses for him! He’s a Phillip Rivers
I'm fairly surprised at how many older players or ones coming off of down years, at least in terms of total production, are ranking so high on this list. Not saying it'll pan out to be wrong I'm just used to thinking of PFF's analysis as trying to be sharp to the point of near ambivalence in regards to reputation, yet a lot of these rankings still seem to take in a lot of stock of the perception of a player. Rodgers, Davante Adams, Cooper Kupp, Derrick Henry, Nick Chubb, and Josh Jacobs all seem to fit the mold of the kind of player PFF would usually hedge against. Some of those guys are a couple of years removed from elite production or impact.
Glad Sam gave Johnson some respect at 2. Dude is up there at 1 or 2. Didn’t give up a sack for near 3 years and is just a monster in all phases. Him at 6 on the official rankings is insane carry on
Revenge of the Nerds grades football. Putting Goff 16 was the last straw for me. The guy has been excellent to separate franchises so I dont want hear about his supporting cast. Its Goff, hes the reason. What he accomplished in Detroit has been nothing short of incredible. Something Stafford was unable to do in 12 years. These rankings are a popularity contest.
This is just a silly take, stafford was the only player on the lions capable of playing well for most of his career, he literally won the super bowl with the rams, goff is good dont get me wrong, but the way you phrased it put down stafford for no reason. If the lions had stafford last year, id have bet on the lions for the superbowl and beating out the 49ers.
@MarkMark-kj9xp ....Calvin Johnson anyone? Also I don't think he would have beat the 49ers. But that's neither here nor there I hear what you're saying abkut there being no reason dude had to put stafford down to bring Goff up. But as far as this list it's inane to have some of these guys over goff when you take into account playoff success. Dak, Allen, while also having stroud (who I like but it's been a year) above a guy who's had playoff success with two teams. Meanwhile they give Herbert every excuse to keep him on a top 10 pedestal but when Goff has a poor throw it's immediately "that's Goffs ceiling" edit : see lol haven't even seen the whole video but Herberts losses become a "team game" but if he wins he's the x factor, meanwhile Goff is apparently just a product of the talent around him
Looking at this list, I'd put Goff ahead ALL OF THEM cept Mahomes, Allen, Herbert, (and I guess) Lamar. I think he's neck and neck with Stafford. Burrow, Rodgers are coming off injury. Stroud is a kid, Hurts is up and down. Goff is a classic pocket passer which has lost its shine
No, it’s not. There are too many good receivers. I came name 10 better right now off the rip. 1. JJettas 2. Tyreek Hill 3. Amon-Ra St Brown 4. Ceedee Lamb 5. Ja’marr Chase 6. AJ Brown 7. Devante Adams 8. Mike Evans 9. Stefon Diggs 10. Puka Nucua
I think I would consider moving off Dak for CeeDee and Micah... I think it is hard to pay all three... hard disagree with Dak at 6 would definitely put Rodgers, CJ, Matt Stafford, Kyler, Jalen, over Dak. And qbs in the same tier of Dak are like Brock, Kirk, and Carr.
Breakout candidate this year I’ve got one. I’m almost certain this guy is primed for a phenomenal year. The Bengals Edge Joseph Ossai. I think he is going to have a Bryce Huff kind of break out year. Oh and Bengals RB Chase Brown too. He is going to go off this year.
I don’t think we will see the WR market move exponentially like QBs have. The cap simply isn’t exponential. There will be a point when a top WR gets told no, and other teams realize that they can have a 1B and 2A WRs for only a bit more than the 1A. It will top out just like RBs have. It will happen quicker if more and more good WRs are in drafts, and teams can move on.
I think this list is more based purely on talent and not production. I loved Hetbert as a prospect, and i think he still can be great, but at 5 in the category of post-season caliber, he shouldn't be anywhere near that. Cousins ahead of Goff, as he is coming off major injury and will be 36. Same with A. Rodgers except even older and cousins had a better 2023 than A. Rodgers did in 2022. T. Lawrence on pff is favored, but Goff has been better in standard stats like yds, TDs, comp%, and YPA over the last 2 years combined.
Your assumption that he is far from being a top five QB is based on just the idea that he is old, declined cuz of the injury, or that he'll look worse on a new team. The last time we saw him play, he was clearly a top ten QB and plausibly top five.
@@KoreanMitch Rodgers was definitely not a top 10 QB in 2022. He was in 20 and 21, but his decline stared with the last season in GB. So last time we saw him in a full season, he was not THE guy anymore.
Pre season chargers constantly are talked about how good their roster is and how good their weapons are and Herbert still falls on his face. Embarrassing how much you’re caping for him Trevor
Man, you guys hate on Purdy. Meanwhile, he'll pass up all of those other guys, other than Mahommes year after year, because the job of a QB isn't to be able to do "amazing things." The job of a QB is to play smart, limit mistakes, enable ypur playmakers to make plays and to win games. Who does that better than Purdy? Certainly not Prescott.
Can't put Herbert close to the top 5 (barely top 10)... Talent wise he's definitely top 5 but at some point team success has to mean something. It does when evaluating other qbs in the league
Sure you can. The team only had success because of him. And if you look at his supporting cast in other offensive players, defense, coaches and organization he was the only piece that was a net positive every week.
@@rodders03the whole thing this guy's saying though is certain qbs get breaks for years from these guys in losses cause it's a "team loss" but other qbs who have maybe a loss are simply products of the talent around them and don't elevate the team. For me I'm thinking of Goff but the same cab be said for a few others like Baker Mayfield
Terrible take on Herbert (and others)… Guys- you want to decide if you are ranking the top QBs for 2024 (which I understood to be the case), or, ‘prospects’ to select now to be your QB going forward (this to me is not what the list is meant to be). Case in point in Matthew Stafford. I am sorry but Stafford is the best QB in the NFC and it is not close. I believe for the 2024 season the ONLY QBs that you would honestly ride with over him are (certainly) Mahomes, Allen, Jackson, (and maybe) Burrow. No one else has proven himself better. The guy should have won SB MVP 3 years ago and his game has not faltered since then. Last year he willed an average rams team into the playoffs. This year they are a lot better and I expect NFC championship win. Write it down.
@@mathewjones8886 statistically he’s been better than Mahomes though. So obviously Mahomes has the rings but you can’t be mad at someone who takes the guy with better stats, regular szn and postseason
@@billsfanatic7288 No-one in the league has been better than Mahomes in the regular season over the last 6 years though. Allen has fewer passing yards, fewer total yards, fewer TDs, a lower completion percentage and fewer yards per play. I'm not sure how they teach statistics where you're from but you couldn't be more wrong. Let's not even mention the post season because Mahomes has more of everything there too. He has both the rings and the statistics and all the MVPs and Josh has absolutely nothing so far. Allens best year is losing in regulation in the AFC championship game yet at the moment that would qualify as the worst season of Mahomes career. There's an absolute gulf between them both statistically and in achievement since they entered the NFL.
@@FlexileTheWolf That's Sam and Trevor's projections, not any PFF related analytic. They believe Burrow will rebound and have a better season than years' actual PFF QB#1.
I'm a Packer fan and willing to admit that's a small enough sample that currently maybe Love isn't top 10 especially if it's on what a player has already achieved. He's definitely knocking on the door and no way you leave him off of a top 10 building for the future list.
@jonXler he did it over the entire season and didn't have Love's fairly atrocious first half 🤷♂️. In fairness if Love isn't 11 I think that's a winning point.
@johnschmitt6271 I don't wanna go back and forth about Goff vs Love stuff, but the fact both are below multiple QBs with less playoff success and some even had better teams in some regard is astounding. Dak alone shouldn't be up there
Ranking Aaron Rodgers 8th overall is delusional. No QB who misses an entire season, particular one over 35 should be ranked in the top 10. Rodgers should be below Baker Mayfield and Geno Smith until he proves father time hasn't had its inevitable effect. ALSO... Lamar BLEW IT in the Playoffs... if he's number 2 overall then the state of QB play in the NFL is awful. He's still a running back who throw to ONE GUY.
Tyreek stuff I agreed last year this time but he is too flimsy now.. he is hurt or on the side line constantly.. JJ is the best because he plays 90-95% of the game every play on offense.. Tyreek plays 1-2 plays and is out out of breath for 3… he is out of shape and getting old and isn’t the same.. he has a great fast run then his ankle is being worked on
Having Herbert at 5 over the rest of the top 10 has to be extreme personal favouritism. Stafford, Prescott, Hurts and Stroud have all had better success last season and all played better football. This list is baseless in anything else but feelings and follows no logic. He said in 2-3 years time it will be hard to argue he isn't top 5 which may be true but that doesn't mean you sling him into top 5 now
@@coreywiggs3461 Its an awesome argument! lamar just with a great organization so he has way better rosters than burrow but in a vacuum he's not better lamar against mahomes couldn't even throw the ball towards the ground and hit it he forgot how to play football
@@HoldenBroussardwhat are you talking about? Burrow has had Chase, Higgins, and Mixon. Significantly better offensive weapons than Lamar's rosters. And QBs don't play each other, they play against defenses. Such a weird argument.
@@quintinparson I said roster look closely please! joe burrow had wideouts thats it lamar has had way better protection way better running games and way better defenses
Mahomes probably in a tier of his own? He has more rings than the rest of the top 10 combined, more playoff wins that #2,#3 and #4 combined. There's absolutely no doubt that he's currently in a tier of his own.
Justin Jefferson signing a 40-million dollar a year deal? I'll believe that only when I see it and then I still might not believe it. Here's the thing, with the way the rules are tilted toward the offense and the number of kids coming out of college and hitting their stride in year one or year two, you don't need to double-dip at that position. The Lions paid St. Brown. Great, love the guy, love his heart, glad he's sticking around, but he's the one. I don't see Jamo getting an offer anywhere near St. Brown's deal and if he does, let him walk. #2 WR's can be had at reasonable price on the FA market for one and two year deals and you can draft a kid as late as the third round and if you pick properly he can take over that two spot in year one or year two. 40-million for a WR? That's just a fool and his money kind of signing.
The QB with the highest QBR from last season isnt even in the top ten. Putting rodgers on this list looses all credibility. Dude wasnt even a top 20 in 2022. Maybe he gets back there but that be like putting watson on here because maybe he plays like he did....
1. brock purdy is a top 10 quarterback 2. Aiyuk, Deebo, and St Brown in the top 10 but no DJ Moore is insanity 3. Will Mallory & Tyrique Stevenson are gonna be stars
They have to put Aiyuk and Deebo up there. Otherwise, they can't justify keeping Purdy off the top 5, let alone top 10. And they REALLY want to keep Purdy off of their lists.
Yes don’t know why you guys are stuck on Breece Hall but Keneth Walker III had a way better first season than Breece Hall they both came out the same year and Walker has more yards more TD’s and YPA.
Breece hall is clearly better. Injuries and one of the worst offensive lines in the league is why he doesn't have stats of walker. Walker is nasty though I like him too very underrated
Dak over Purdy? Dak just can't seem to win when it matters (like cowboys as a team, but the QB is the one who needs to step up getting paid those amounts). I have a hard time seeing a QB ranked top10 without being able to deliver in important gaves... like... ever...
Take mahomes as an example, solid season, but ups and downs, but you get the feeling they don't push hard to shine and overperform during the season, they are already focused on peaking during the playoffs. Does whats needed to get the job done, not more, almost never less.
lol Herbert had Mike Williams, Keenan Allen, All pro LT, pro bowl level Center, Kahlik Mack, Joey Bosa, Derwin James and can’t get it done 😂. If Lawerence had that type of team talent he would be top 3.
I'd take jetta 10 out of 10 times over tyreek hill. Jared goff is a top 8 qb in the league. He's taken two different franchises to the playoffs and won multiple games.
@@Zabougie....where's he wrong? Certain qbs on this list lose consistently tight games and they get the it's a "team loss" break but Purdy and Goff have playoff success and win more often than not and it's a "they're not elevating the team around them they're just products of the talent around them." Explain why daks above Love, Purdy, and Goff on this list then
@JaredBruski Because it was the opinion of the people who made the list? What point are you even trying to make dude? Purdy belongs top 5, unless you are for one reason or another a hater who doesn't actually study his tape. I'm going to be honest, your English is so bad, I have no interest in trying to figure out what you are trying to say, let alone keep trying to translate for a conversation.
Because he won a flipping Super Bowl 2 years ago. Because he should have been the MVP of that Super Bowl. Because he single-handedly willed an average Rams team into the playoffs last year and damned near won in Detroit against a very balanced and powerful Lions team. Pay attention.
Terrible take on Herbert. Completely disagree in everyway he clearly hasn't elevated anything. He's had a top 10 defense and top 5 weapons his wholw career. It's because of his inconsistent play that he can't win playoff games
You gotta be joking lol. His weapons always get hurt, he was throwing to Quinten Johnston and Jalen Guyton last year lol and his defense finished 24th in points allowed, they have never finished top 10 in points allowed since Herbert has been there.
No I will not shut up. How in the world do y’all not have Tua on this list? He led the league in passing yards last year and is 2-1 vs Herbert head to head. He should be in that 5 spot but at least top 10. 20.59 is wear I stopped watching.
You really have Penei at 5💀
Seriously a joke. He’ll be better than Trent Williams this year
@@coltrxne2154He was better than Trent last year. Penei is the most physically dominant Olineman in the NFL. And his technique will only continue to improve year over year.
Penei is only 23, so he hasn't even hit peak his MAN STRENGTH yet. And now he has kids, so add dad strength to that lol.
Lots of great tackles in the NFL. If you are a top 5 tackle, that is extremely elite.
Finally someone giving Kupp the respect he deserves. Dude has been elite. Started on fire then gets hurt and everyone forgets about him. I'm all in for the disrespect, I'll take him late in every league.
So no love for my man Kenneth Walker? His rookie year in 2022 he started only 11 games and played In 15 and rushed for 1050 yards at 4.6 YPA, with 9 rushing TDs. His second year last year he played in and started 15 games and had 905 rushing yards, 4.1 YPA. 8 rushing TDs, with 29 catches for 259 yards and 1 td. His rookie year he caught 27 passes for 165 I forgot to add that.
He's phenomenal for sure.
He's a baller, way underrated and shouldn't be
Not having Jared Goff on here is ridiculous lol
PFF grades St Brown in the top 3 overall each year, and his stats back it up, but they still won’t put him up there in their rankings because what they perceive as a lack of jaw dropping big play wow factor. He’s just gonna put up another nonchalant 125 for 1600 and grade overall in the top 3 again 😂
He's like Mike Evans. The steady guys who aren't necessarily highlight reels suffer in these exercises.
@@johnschmitt6271it’s because he’s a slot receiver
Because he plays in the slot rather than as a true X (usually) which automatically makes him less valuable
@@claysimonsen less valuable to who?? you?? buddy is the engine to the offense
Yeah, Sam and Trevor diverged quite a bit from actual PFF Grades from 2023.
The Sun God might be my first round fantasy pick this year (pick 11, snake, 12 team PPR League).
Sewell at 5th is absolutely insane... just stupid
Jahmyr Gibbs will be #1 on this list in 2025 💯
If he can tuck it away not get the fumble itis in the playoffs like he did last season yes, that's the only knock on him he's a really good rb
@@jaha777jaha6 Gibbs only fumbled once in the regular season, and didn't lose that one.
The playoff fumble, which he lost, obviously came at the worst time.
It's really not an issue tho.
@@LionsOnTheHunt313 I think the offense will be good again this season and if they can get past GB should win the conference those guys are stacked ,think they just got a premiere cb from Seattle too...
Actual PFF QB Grades calculated from 2023 were: 10)Goff 85.7 9)Cousins 86.1 8)Hurts 86.7 7)Tua 86.9 6)Purdy 87.4 5)Stafford 88.2 4) Dak 90 3)Lamar 90.4 2) Mahomes 90.5 and 1) Allen 92.1 That is the baseline. Now look Sam's, Trevor's, and your opinions to see how they diverge.
They're calling dramatic bounce backs from Rodgers, Burrow, and Herbert, and dramatic regression from Purdy and Tua. (I don't really buy either)
Also, last year's analytics do show a clear QB#1, well ahead of the others, but it wasn't Mahomes.
They hate Tua and Purdy lol. Pff is honestly a joke
The explosion of price for top WRs is a factor in why they are being drafted in the first round so much. Getting them on the cheap is a lot more logical than it used to be.
Also rookie WRs are impact players right away. 800+ Yards are not uncommon.
Very good point unless they go crazy statistically and hold out for big contract you have them cheap for a good 4 years
Lol Jackson over Allen is hilarious. Jackson was gifted the MVP last season for being the qb of the team with the best record while having mid ranged stats lol
Lamar carried the offense not too many play makers on that side of the ball
No all-Pro Kyren Williams is crazy disrespectful
So we still think Purdy is not a top 10 qb?
Yea
He may be but it's hard to judge him in a vacuum when he has arguably the best supporting cast in football (not his fault but affects people's perception of him).
@@FlexileTheWolf I get it but you really can’t discredit the guy from his year 1 numbers to year 2 jump. He’s definitely shown to be a top qb so far in his career just my perspective.
People are still in disbelief that he was the last person drafted in his class. If he were drafted in the 1st round people's perception of him would be different.
Purdy has to be top 10 somewhere, he's deadly accurate and makes consistent reads over the season...I know the secondary is great but purdy makes it all work and should be recognized
Dj Moore had top 10 stats with bottom 20s qb situation.
I'm not a huge QB wins guy, but as someone who has been in the stadium when Herbert has had the ball in a tie game with 90 seconds left and timeouts against my team....no fear at all.
When they win, they were right. When they lose, they were still right because in these cases "it's a team game." 🤣
Chargers seem to lose a lot with Herbert
Those days are over
Absolutely correct. This is what keeps him from being as good as his talent suggests. Of course it’s not his fault when the defense allows a last possession score to lose the game, but so many times he has the ball in the last 2 minutes and just doesn’t get the job done.
The capes y’all put on for Herbert is crazy
Not really when you have good multiple seasons, rookie of the year and one season he threw for 5k and 38 touchdowns. Probably had a better season then your favorite minus mahommes
@@boltgang6192 My favorite has two MVPs.
But I understand he’s good I’m not taking that away from him but outside of individual performance he hasn’t shown anything they even like in this video act like he’s never had a supporting cast to justify winning. He’s had very good to great teammates. No reason he shouldn’t be in the Allen Lamar Burrow convo but he’s more closer to Dak in terms of production than ppl want to realize.
@@toon5217your favorite was relied on to pass the whole second half and struggled Bad why?
@@tybones2222 He didn’t struggle bad he played against the best defense in the league and his rookie receiver fumbled at the 1 which caused the offense to press.
Where was Herbert during the process of that game ?
Analysts are so enamored by elite physical intangibles and raw numbers that they fail to see that as long as Mahomes is healthy, the chargers will never win that division, let alone make a deep playoff run.
No David Montgomery What’s wrong with you guys??
DMo is sooooo disrespected and underrated by fans & media.
Rankings like this always piss off the goobers in the comments. It’s not gospel guys. You’re allowed to disagree and simultaneously not throw a temper tantrum 😭
I still dont understand why DAL didnt sign CD last year.. you knew JJ/Chase were coming up..
Justin Herbert are for those guys that just love passing yards. The finesse dudes. I’m glad that he has a coach that people view that is good. No excuses for him! He’s a Phillip Rivers
I'm fairly surprised at how many older players or ones coming off of down years, at least in terms of total production, are ranking so high on this list. Not saying it'll pan out to be wrong I'm just used to thinking of PFF's analysis as trying to be sharp to the point of near ambivalence in regards to reputation, yet a lot of these rankings still seem to take in a lot of stock of the perception of a player. Rodgers, Davante Adams, Cooper Kupp, Derrick Henry, Nick Chubb, and Josh Jacobs all seem to fit the mold of the kind of player PFF would usually hedge against. Some of those guys are a couple of years removed from elite production or impact.
Glad Sam gave Johnson some respect at 2. Dude is up there at 1 or 2. Didn’t give up a sack for near 3 years and is just a monster in all phases. Him at 6 on the official rankings is insane carry on
Revenge of the Nerds grades football.
Putting Goff 16 was the last straw for me.
The guy has been excellent to separate franchises so I dont want hear about his supporting cast.
Its Goff, hes the reason. What he accomplished in Detroit has been nothing short of incredible.
Something Stafford was unable to do in 12 years.
These rankings are a popularity contest.
This is just a silly take, stafford was the only player on the lions capable of playing well for most of his career, he literally won the super bowl with the rams, goff is good dont get me wrong, but the way you phrased it put down stafford for no reason. If the lions had stafford last year, id have bet on the lions for the superbowl and beating out the 49ers.
goff is better than 16 but he is not “the reason”
@MarkMark-kj9xp ....Calvin Johnson anyone? Also I don't think he would have beat the 49ers. But that's neither here nor there I hear what you're saying abkut there being no reason dude had to put stafford down to bring Goff up. But as far as this list it's inane to have some of these guys over goff when you take into account playoff success. Dak, Allen, while also having stroud (who I like but it's been a year) above a guy who's had playoff success with two teams. Meanwhile they give Herbert every excuse to keep him on a top 10 pedestal but when Goff has a poor throw it's immediately "that's Goffs ceiling" edit : see lol haven't even seen the whole video but Herberts losses become a "team game" but if he wins he's the x factor, meanwhile Goff is apparently just a product of the talent around him
Looking at this list, I'd put Goff ahead ALL OF THEM cept Mahomes, Allen, Herbert, (and I guess) Lamar. I think he's neck and neck with Stafford. Burrow, Rodgers are coming off injury. Stroud is a kid, Hurts is up and down. Goff is a classic pocket passer which has lost its shine
No James Connor 😳
ANOTHER underrated rb, guy can play
Robinson is a better RB than Gibbs?
When was last time Burrow played a full season?
no dj moore in top 10 is a crime
DJ is a BEAST! Just as good as AJ Brown 💯
No, it’s not. There are too many good receivers. I came name 10 better right now off the rip.
1. JJettas
2. Tyreek Hill
3. Amon-Ra St Brown
4. Ceedee Lamb
5. Ja’marr Chase
6. AJ Brown
7. Devante Adams
8. Mike Evans
9. Stefon Diggs
10. Puka Nucua
I'm not convinced these WR contracts are worth it right now. But I suppose the cap is rising quite a bit.
Having Andrew Thomas above Penei Sewell is bat shit crazy
Definitely not crazy. Andrew Thomas is amazing.
@@colecaine.Maybe so, but still not on Penei's level 💯
Penei Sewell at 5?!😂😂😂😂
Kolton Miller should be higher than slater Malcolm Koonce whooped slater and Miller practices against that dude every day
RB list: Saquon Barkley is with the Giants??
cooper kupp isnt even best WR on team
Cap
I would have had Joe Mixon on my RB rankings and not Aron Jones. Jones would have been 11th. Mixon would have been 9th or 10th
I think I would consider moving off Dak for CeeDee and Micah... I think it is hard to pay all three... hard disagree with Dak at 6 would definitely put Rodgers, CJ, Matt Stafford, Kyler, Jalen, over Dak. And qbs in the same tier of Dak are like Brock, Kirk, and Carr.
They'll have choose between cd and Micah or dak sooner or later, I'd take the 2
Breakout candidate this year I’ve got one. I’m almost certain this guy is primed for a phenomenal year. The Bengals Edge Joseph Ossai. I think he is going to have a Bryce Huff kind of break out year. Oh and Bengals RB Chase Brown too. He is going to go off this year.
I don’t think we will see the WR market move exponentially like QBs have. The cap simply isn’t exponential. There will be a point when a top WR gets told no, and other teams realize that they can have a 1B and 2A WRs for only a bit more than the 1A. It will top out just like RBs have. It will happen quicker if more and more good WRs are in drafts, and teams can move on.
I think this list is more based purely on talent and not production. I loved Hetbert as a prospect, and i think he still can be great, but at 5 in the category of post-season caliber, he shouldn't be anywhere near that. Cousins ahead of Goff, as he is coming off major injury and will be 36. Same with A. Rodgers except even older and cousins had a better 2023 than A. Rodgers did in 2022. T. Lawrence on pff is favored, but Goff has been better in standard stats like yds, TDs, comp%, and YPA over the last 2 years combined.
Bijon over Gibbs??? Bro half is stats then half is I think, talk about using PFF to fit a narrative. Use it till "I think" over rules your stats???
You guys are clearly DRUNK. Rodgers a top 5 QB? Haha...
Your assumption that he is far from being a top five QB is based on just the idea that he is old, declined cuz of the injury, or that he'll look worse on a new team. The last time we saw him play, he was clearly a top ten QB and plausibly top five.
@@KoreanMitch Rodgers was definitely not a top 10 QB in 2022. He was in 20 and 21, but his decline stared with the last season in GB. So last time we saw him in a full season, he was not THE guy anymore.
Pre season chargers constantly are talked about how good their roster is and how good their weapons are and Herbert still falls on his face. Embarrassing how much you’re caping for him Trevor
Its not on Herbert that their defense with an top 10ish personnel on paper performs like an bottom 10 unit on the field.
Man, you guys hate on Purdy. Meanwhile, he'll pass up all of those other guys, other than Mahommes year after year, because the job of a QB isn't to be able to do "amazing things." The job of a QB is to play smart, limit mistakes, enable ypur playmakers to make plays and to win games. Who does that better than Purdy? Certainly not Prescott.
Didnt guys like Stevenson, Chenal, Mafe, etc. break out already?
lmao is it possible these guys don't know football?
It’s not just possible. It’s fact that they don’t know ball.
Olave and’s Kamara should be top 10
Kamara definitely not, not even top 20 tbh but olave is top 10
Can't put Herbert close to the top 5 (barely top 10)... Talent wise he's definitely top 5 but at some point team success has to mean something. It does when evaluating other qbs in the league
Right! Ppl worship Mahomes/Brady bc of rings not stats
I’m Herbert defence he’s had fucking terrible coaching. Next couple seasons are make or break for him
Sure you can. The team only had success because of him. And if you look at his supporting cast in other offensive players, defense, coaches and organization he was the only piece that was a net positive every week.
@@bgill4049It’s because of both, not one or the other
@@rodders03the whole thing this guy's saying though is certain qbs get breaks for years from these guys in losses cause it's a "team loss" but other qbs who have maybe a loss are simply products of the talent around them and don't elevate the team. For me I'm thinking of Goff but the same cab be said for a few others like Baker Mayfield
Terrible take on Herbert (and others)… Guys- you want to decide if you are ranking the top QBs for 2024 (which I understood to be the case), or, ‘prospects’ to select now to be your QB going forward (this to me is not what the list is meant to be). Case in point in Matthew Stafford. I am sorry but Stafford is the best QB in the NFC and it is not close. I believe for the 2024 season the ONLY QBs that you would honestly ride with over him are (certainly) Mahomes, Allen, Jackson, (and maybe) Burrow. No one else has proven himself better. The guy should have won SB MVP 3 years ago and his game has not faltered since then. Last year he willed an average rams team into the playoffs. This year they are a lot better and I expect NFC championship win. Write it down.
Not having Allen 1 or 2 shows true lack of ball knowledge
Having Allen at 1 would be certifiably insane though. You can argue all you like about the rest but no-one is anywhere near the guy in first.
@@mathewjones8886 statistically he’s been better than Mahomes though. So obviously Mahomes has the rings but you can’t be mad at someone who takes the guy with better stats, regular szn and postseason
@@billsfanatic7288 No-one in the league has been better than Mahomes in the regular season over the last 6 years though. Allen has fewer passing yards, fewer total yards, fewer TDs, a lower completion percentage and fewer yards per play. I'm not sure how they teach statistics where you're from but you couldn't be more wrong. Let's not even mention the post season because Mahomes has more of everything there too. He has both the rings and the statistics and all the MVPs and Josh has absolutely nothing so far. Allens best year is losing in regulation in the AFC championship game yet at the moment that would qualify as the worst season of Mahomes career. There's an absolute gulf between them both statistically and in achievement since they entered the NFL.
As a Vikings fan, I think you thank JJ for his service and trade him. Can’t pay a wr 4x million a year
Bengals are the only team with a Top 3 QB and WR, need to capitalize on that talent!
They were top 4 in the AFC North too!
Burrow is not top 3. I'm assuming you mean when he is healthy but he is always hurt too
@@FlexileTheWolf That's Sam and Trevor's projections, not any PFF related analytic. They believe Burrow will rebound and have a better season than years' actual PFF QB#1.
Jordan Love best QB in the league after the second half of last year but alright lol
I'm a Packer fan and willing to admit that's a small enough sample that currently maybe Love isn't top 10 especially if it's on what a player has already achieved. He's definitely knocking on the door and no way you leave him off of a top 10 building for the future list.
@@johnschmitt6271 whats CJ Stroud doing on this list then?
@jonXler he did it over the entire season and didn't have Love's fairly atrocious first half 🤷♂️. In fairness if Love isn't 11 I think that's a winning point.
Pretty sure PFF had J Love at 11 on the website so it's not like he was far off the list
@johnschmitt6271 I don't wanna go back and forth about Goff vs Love stuff, but the fact both are below multiple QBs with less playoff success and some even had better teams in some regard is astounding. Dak alone shouldn't be up there
It’s kinda funny to be putting Dak #6 as a Packers fan. Just because he ALWAYS sucks against the Packers
Bills fan here, and we also annihilate Dak. But that said, he had an impressive 2023 season. His final PFF Grade was 90.0, or 4th overall.
Ranking Aaron Rodgers 8th overall is delusional. No QB who misses an entire season, particular one over 35 should be ranked in the top 10. Rodgers should be below Baker Mayfield and Geno Smith until he proves father time hasn't had its inevitable effect. ALSO... Lamar BLEW IT in the Playoffs... if he's number 2 overall then the state of QB play in the NFL is awful. He's still a running back who throw to ONE GUY.
Tyreek stuff I agreed last year this time but he is too flimsy now.. he is hurt or on the side line constantly.. JJ is the best because he plays 90-95% of the game every play on offense.. Tyreek plays 1-2 plays and is out out of breath for 3… he is out of shape and getting old and isn’t the same.. he has a great fast run then his ankle is being worked on
I would take DJ Moore over anyone outside the top 6.
Having Herbert at 5 over the rest of the top 10 has to be extreme personal favouritism. Stafford, Prescott, Hurts and Stroud have all had better success last season and all played better football. This list is baseless in anything else but feelings and follows no logic. He said in 2-3 years time it will be hard to argue he isn't top 5 which may be true but that doesn't mean you sling him into top 5 now
Etienne is without question a top 10 RB in the league. I’m an Aaron Jones fan but top 10???? And Jacob’s shouldn’t be there either lmao
Jefferson might get $35m, but $40 is getting a bit varied away. He's not going to get $10m/year more than everyone else
Burrow clearly second we seen lamar against mahomes and burrow against mahomes!
Burrow is injured half the time and has never not had elite weapons
yeah and we've also seen burrow vs Lamar... not a great argument
@@coreywiggs3461 Its an awesome argument! lamar just with a great organization so he has way better rosters than burrow but in a vacuum he's not better lamar against mahomes couldn't even throw the ball towards the ground and hit it he forgot how to play football
@@HoldenBroussardwhat are you talking about? Burrow has had Chase, Higgins, and Mixon. Significantly better offensive weapons than Lamar's rosters. And QBs don't play each other, they play against defenses. Such a weird argument.
@@quintinparson I said roster look closely please! joe burrow had wideouts thats it lamar has had way better protection way better running games and way better defenses
Mahomes probably in a tier of his own? He has more rings than the rest of the top 10 combined, more playoff wins that #2,#3 and #4 combined. There's absolutely no doubt that he's currently in a tier of his own.
If you put Josh Allen any lower than 2 shame on you
If you put him any higher then you're a lunatic.
Karl Brooks is a football player. Stats don’t always tell the story
Loved him coming out. I think hell be a guy that will splash in a season or 2
1. Patrick Mahomes
2. Joe Burrow
3. Josh Allen
4. Lamar Jackson
5. Aaron Rodgers
6. CJ Stroud
7. Justin Herbert
8. Jalen Hurts
9. Brock Purdy
10. Tua
Respect for putting Tua in there. Idk where he goes but he is obviously top 10 these ppl are crazy sometimes
Justin Jefferson signing a 40-million dollar a year deal? I'll believe that only when I see it and then I still might not believe it. Here's the thing, with the way the rules are tilted toward the offense and the number of kids coming out of college and hitting their stride in year one or year two, you don't need to double-dip at that position. The Lions paid St. Brown. Great, love the guy, love his heart, glad he's sticking around, but he's the one. I don't see Jamo getting an offer anywhere near St. Brown's deal and if he does, let him walk. #2 WR's can be had at reasonable price on the FA market for one and two year deals and you can draft a kid as late as the third round and if you pick properly he can take over that two spot in year one or year two. 40-million for a WR? That's just a fool and his money kind of signing.
Cooper kupp had 1 good season
One historic season, but ya he's definitely overrated when compared to the elite WR's in the league.
The QB with the highest QBR from last season isnt even in the top ten.
Putting rodgers on this list looses all credibility. Dude wasnt even a top 20 in 2022. Maybe he gets back there but that be like putting watson on here because maybe he plays like he did....
1. brock purdy is a top 10 quarterback
2. Aiyuk, Deebo, and St Brown in the top 10 but no DJ Moore is insanity
3. Will Mallory & Tyrique Stevenson are gonna be stars
They have to put Aiyuk and Deebo up there. Otherwise, they can't justify keeping Purdy off the top 5, let alone top 10. And they REALLY want to keep Purdy off of their lists.
Dak is the most overrated QB is the NFL - another Jerry Jones marketing win.
Dak and Trevor Lawrence.
Lamar Jackson number 2? You know this was a qb list not a rb list.
purdy disrespect is crazy
Penei Sewell at 5 is truly comical.
Adams didn't break the WR market he and Hill signed contracts within a month of each other
Lamb a Lil high 4 me.
Waddle has averaged 72 ypg in his career while Smitty is at almost 64. Waddle is the better player so got paid more
All ive heard about Herbert is potential, promises & excuses.
NO GOFF?? JUST ON STATS ALONE PUTS HIM IN THE TOP 10
Yes don’t know why you guys are stuck on Breece Hall but Keneth Walker III had a way better first season than Breece Hall they both came out the same year and Walker has more yards more TD’s and YPA.
Breece hall is clearly better. Injuries and one of the worst offensive lines in the league is why he doesn't have stats of walker. Walker is nasty though I like him too very underrated
Dak over Purdy? Dak just can't seem to win when it matters (like cowboys as a team, but the QB is the one who needs to step up getting paid those amounts). I have a hard time seeing a QB ranked top10 without being able to deliver in important gaves... like... ever...
Take mahomes as an example, solid season, but ups and downs, but you get the feeling they don't push hard to shine and overperform during the season, they are already focused on peaking during the playoffs. Does whats needed to get the job done, not more, almost never less.
Barkley will be top 3 in rushing & He's an Eagle now, Not a Giant.
This guy must be related to Herbert.
This guy supposed t0 be talking bout the Dolphins but had more to say about the Cowboys haha. Cowboys live in his head rent free.
These guys are like the Angel hernandez of analysis. Holy cow
lol Herbert had Mike Williams, Keenan Allen, All pro LT, pro bowl level Center, Kahlik Mack, Joey Bosa, Derwin James and can’t get it done 😂. If Lawerence had that type of team talent he would be top 3.
CeeDee Lamb above AJ Brown 😂
Mentioned Ojabo but not Trenton Simpson? Be ready for him. He's about fo takeoff
I'd take jetta 10 out of 10 times over tyreek hill. Jared goff is a top 8 qb in the league. He's taken two different franchises to the playoffs and won multiple games.
PFF's 2023 actual QB Grades did have Goff as top 10. Its kind of weird to see the PFF dudes' opinions fly in the face of their own analytics.
Barkley is also to high.
Garett Wilson…lock Breakout player
Nah he broke out rookie year. Only subpar qb play has kept his numbers down
Anybody 8-10 can go
No Goff
Justin Herbert equals Matthew Stafford in Detroit. And Matthew Stafford was never a top 10 quarterback when he was in Detroit.
Your QB list is a fantasy football list, not a winning football games list.
2 tocuhdowns for Quentin Johnston?
That’s how many TDs he had?
@@PastelitoPapi no sh!t
I would put Goff and Purdy top 10
BOTH SLOW. WEAK ARM. SYSTEM QB.
@@yahcrackBrady must’ve been a bottom 5 qb his whole career by that standard.
@yahcrack We get it bud, you don't understand football, but you do love trolling. Have fun out there champ.
@@Zabougie....where's he wrong? Certain qbs on this list lose consistently tight games and they get the it's a "team loss" break but Purdy and Goff have playoff success and win more often than not and it's a "they're not elevating the team around them they're just products of the talent around them." Explain why daks above Love, Purdy, and Goff on this list then
@JaredBruski Because it was the opinion of the people who made the list? What point are you even trying to make dude? Purdy belongs top 5, unless you are for one reason or another a hater who doesn't actually study his tape. I'm going to be honest, your English is so bad, I have no interest in trying to figure out what you are trying to say, let alone keep trying to translate for a conversation.
No Mike Evans? Cooper Kupp? No. Deebo Samuel? No.
Cupp had 1 great season in 2021 not so much sense. Replace him with Mike Evans who had had a great year in every single year of his Career
LOL DAK AT 6.
Yeah, apparently, winning isn't important.
Why is Matthew Stafford ahead of Kirk Cousins?
Hahahahahahahaha
Because he won a flipping Super Bowl 2 years ago. Because he should have been the MVP of that Super Bowl. Because he single-handedly willed an average Rams team into the playoffs last year and damned near won in Detroit against a very balanced and powerful Lions team. Pay attention.
@@gcashby1871 Cousins was playing better ball than Stafford before the injury. The superbowl isn't relevant to how his play is right now.
Terrible take on Herbert. Completely disagree in everyway he clearly hasn't elevated anything. He's had a top 10 defense and top 5 weapons his wholw career. It's because of his inconsistent play that he can't win playoff games
You went off world with the top 10 defense and top 5 weapons comment
You gotta be joking lol. His weapons always get hurt, he was throwing to Quinten Johnston and Jalen Guyton last year lol and his defense finished 24th in points allowed, they have never finished top 10 in points allowed since Herbert has been there.
I really don't know why anyone considers him a top 5 QB when he has done nothing his entire career and in reality is just an above average QB
Yeah he fades as the game goes on
Top 10 defense 🤣🤣
Watt is the best defensive player in NFL…
No I will not shut up. How in the world do y’all not have Tua on this list? He led the league in passing yards last year and is 2-1 vs Herbert head to head. He should be in that 5 spot but at least top 10. 20.59 is wear I stopped watching.