That's what irks me about Petzing's offense, Marv CAN run all sorts of routes besides the go route. Ohio State had him all over the damn place, in short and intermediate routes, on screens. They got him the ball in many ways. It has to be easier as a defender to know Marv is only going to run a go route.
Crazy thing is if Drew P just can get just a little bit more out of the passing game we might be alright. Have to wonder why Marv didn't run the 40? Marv is a leo like kyler. They need to be with the guys again next off season. Not just self training but actually putting themselves in competitive environments more often. Marv is going to be fine. But he definitely needs to hit the gym and get stronger. It's kinda why I was kind of fine if we did a potential nabers/additional pick situation. Because Malik is a physical freak and has plus skills. Marv really should have played more in the preseason frfr. As should have kyler.
What BG is saying about the receivers is so true. I'm not sure if it's talent, coaching or scheme, but our guys rarely ever beat people outright, especially deep. All you have to do is turn on other games, and you'll see dudes getting serious separation over the top consistently. And Kyler looked accurate today. That one TD pass to Marv was a dot. Great play by the DB.
It was a good win. No nail biting in the 4th quarter. The Cards can go to the playoff IF they end with a 10-7 record, provided that Seattle will go 1-2 or worse. LA can finish with a 10-7 record, but the Cards will hold tie breaker over LA. For Seattle to go 1-2, they will have to lose to Minnesota and LA (and or Chicago). The bottom line is that the Cards will have to win out.
People want to knock Ky but how many times has he been hung out to dry by receivers? Yes he’s been inconsistent but also hard to score passing touchdowns when your prized fish drops pay dirt. We won the game when we held New England to zero yards twice on third and fourth down at the goal line.
I figured out Gannon’s one major weakness (great coach otherwise). He has no imprint on the offense. I literally think it’s just totally separate from him and delegated entirely to Petzing. Listen to the press conference clip in the beginning of this episode. He’s talking about the defense the whole time! There’s nothing to say about the defense at this point. Call out the mediocrity.
I love how everyone is just giving up on Marv. The dude is a rookie for crying out loud. Yes expectations were high and I'd be lying if I said he lived up to them. But if you don't think that he's gonna improve with time and better qb play/offensive play calling, I don't know what to tell you. He's gonna be a problem for the league soon enough.
What the fans want and what petzing want from this offence are clearly 2 completely different things. Fans nor happy with this game but I bet drew delighted, run game worked and mcbride got his catches that's the drew petzing offence. Only way that changes is fire drew!!
The offence's confidence pre bi is missing post bi. The vibe is wrong, the timing is off, and the mojo has vanished. I've been blaming the trenches, but it's more than that. They'd better get a witch doctor in here and figure this shit out!
You guys are over reacting a little bit I think, Kyler still completed over 70% and all the scores were writhing 3 yds. Those touchdowns all could’ve been passed just called a run
@elawen5 he has became the check down merchant. He's a game manager now. I guess if it works, keep doing it. But, Petzing needs to draw up some downfield plays.
It’s crazy. All the local guys that cover the Cardinals, except for a few, call the Cardinals we and us when they win. But when they lose, it’s them not us!!! Fair weather reporters.
Maybe you & the crew need to realize something there Jonny boy, the offense isn’t broken, it’s exactly what JG & Monty want it to be. They want to run the ball, play excellent defense behind that running game, and grind out victory’s. To my knowledge neither JG or Monty ever stated the Offense would be the strength of the team, its a fabrication created by phnx that you’ve sold to the fans. Btw MHj isn’t dealing with a disconnect, he’s dealing with this isn’t Ohio State anymore, and these are grown-ass men he’s dealing with. His lack of physicality and inability to catch any contested balls is more than telling, it’s an inditement. I never expect any answers from you, so when you don’t I won’t be disappointed; you don’t like any view that’s not yours.
@@MizakiFelix Oh man, so much to take in here. First off, the investments with first-round picks and money allocated warrants high expectations with this offense. They attempted to mirror what Philly did early with JG...load the offense and let he/Rallis help the defense overachieve. We always welcome opposing views, as long as it's done in a respectful manner.
Good question, I didn’t wanna draft him in the first place I wanted to trade the pic. I’ve been saying for months and months and months, even before the draft that he wasn’t a fit for the team.
Its funny how you all complain about a win. Our offense is above average for scoring and our defense is near the top. We will hopefully get a left gaurd and some dline and we will be great next year. Stop whinning we are winning football games
Cardinals fans are so precious lol. They complain when they lose the game, then when they win a game they complain they didn’t win it the way they wanted to win.
@ lmao. You aren’t the only one who played dude. Since before the draft I said don’t draft a wr and address the defense. I’ve said this offense doesn’t value wr’s it runs through the running game & it’s passing game goes through it’s te’s, rb’s, and short passing game. Hell, it’s not my fault Monty wasted a pick on a player who doesn’t fit, is soft, and was overhyped because of his dad’s career. MHj is a lazy route runner, puts forth little effort if he’s not getting the ball, won’t make plays on the ball if it’s not perfectly thrown, and can’t catch contested balls. We shouldn’t have drafted him, & should definitely trade him away for something that will help this team.
Maybe it’s time fans realize this offense isn’t broken. The offense is exactly what the cardinals want it to be. They never intended to be a high powered passing attack. They’ve always planned on being a run first offense who plays excellent defense behind that running game, and grind out victory’s. To my knowledge neither JG & Monty never stated the offense would be the strength of this team. That is a fabrication created by Jonny & crew with no supporting evidence to my knowledge.
100% I think you've got a situation where you've got the fans and bidwell wanting a exciting passing offence that gets MHJ 1200 yards etc and then you've got petzing wanting a run first throw to mcbride underneath and then use MHJ in the end zone type offence and JG and Monti in the middle. Just doesn't feel like everyone pulling in the same direction atm
Then you probably shouldn't have drafted MHJ if that's the case. We can still be a run heavy team and I'm okay with it but the passing game is severely flawed. You won't beat the Green Bays, Minnesotas, Philadelphias in the playoffs that way.
The expectation was because of the talent level. MHJ is a high draft pick, Kyler was a #1 overall pick and has shown flashes of excellence, McBride is at worst a top 5 tight end, James Conner is at least a top 10 RB, and the OL (especially PJJ) is pretty talented. The defense was seen as Budda Baker and a bunch of other guys.
@ the problem was the false expectations placed on this offense. fans expected the offense to drastically change between last year and this year just because we wasted a pic on a wide receiver in the top 10. The office is functioning. The way is designed to, run the ball throw the ball to the tight ends and backs lol, people simply don’t want to expect that fact. in the last two years, they have split the top 100 graphics almost evenly between offensive defense, but they have drafted more defensive, starters and offensive starters lol, when it comes to us, people had false expectations built around this team because of Marvin Harrison Junior, LMAO and expected the team to change his philosophy just because of him They expected falsely so, with no supporting evidence that somehow the offense would be the strength of the team. There is the problem with this entire situation.
This team isn’t going to the Playoffs, PERIOD! They will lose at least one game out of the next three! The Cardinals beat a GARBAGE team today and the Homers are all excited! What a joke! Did you see the interception that Murray threw today? What a HORRIBLE DECISION AND PASS! He’s lucky that he got a flag for Roughing the Passer! This guy needs to go BYE BYE NOW!!! HE’S AWFUL!!!
That's what irks me about Petzing's offense, Marv CAN run all sorts of routes besides the go route. Ohio State had him all over the damn place, in short and intermediate routes, on screens. They got him the ball in many ways. It has to be easier as a defender to know Marv is only going to run a go route.
Crazy thing is if Drew P just can get just a little bit more out of the passing game we might be alright.
Have to wonder why Marv didn't run the 40? Marv is a leo like kyler. They need to be with the guys again next off season. Not just self training but actually putting themselves in competitive environments more often.
Marv is going to be fine. But he definitely needs to hit the gym and get stronger. It's kinda why I was kind of fine if we did a potential nabers/additional pick situation. Because Malik is a physical freak and has plus skills.
Marv really should have played more in the preseason frfr. As should have kyler.
26:33 dotrch wasn’t featured over Marv. Marv dropped two TDs and couldn’t get open. Dortch did get open. It’s that simple
Facts💯💯💯
Marv just can't catch contested balls 🏈
@franktank334 it's because he is body catching alot and not attacking the ball.
What BG is saying about the receivers is so true. I'm not sure if it's talent, coaching or scheme, but our guys rarely ever beat people outright, especially deep.
All you have to do is turn on other games, and you'll see dudes getting serious separation over the top consistently.
And Kyler looked accurate today. That one TD pass to Marv was a dot. Great play by the DB.
Best part was Johnny leaving Brittan speechless.. time is ticking offense ⌛️
I mean there were some moments where the pass game was working then Gonzalez would make a DPI, I mean a play against Marv.
It’s so hard to sit here as a fan KNOWING our Offense is so limited when it should be the best part of our team
Fantastic! What games are you guys watching? D Rob gets the Wadsworth award.
It was a good win. No nail biting in the 4th quarter. The Cards can go to the playoff IF they end with a 10-7 record, provided that Seattle will go 1-2 or worse. LA can finish with a 10-7 record, but the Cards will hold tie breaker over LA. For Seattle to go 1-2, they will have to lose to Minnesota and LA (and or Chicago). The bottom line is that the Cards will have to win out.
Are you ever satisfied??
People want to knock Ky but how many times has he been hung out to dry by receivers? Yes he’s been inconsistent but also hard to score passing touchdowns when your prized fish drops pay dirt. We won the game when we held New England to zero yards twice on third and fourth down at the goal line.
If the cards get one more win against Panthers then it shows major improvement this year, 2nd year of rebuild.
a win is a win but offense still looks off
Yo that jacket.....🔥🔥🔥
1:24:03 I agree with Johnny NGL play call sucked on 2nd and 3rd down. It just looked good cause the opposing team has 3 wins all year 😂
Are we 100% sure Isaiah Adam's isn't gonna go to left guard and will hernandez going back to right guard? Seems like a strong group already...
Sorry,,,,the win was weak against a weak opponent. If we limp into playoffs ....we're toast. Most likely we won"t get there
This is 2021 all over again.
True, but what we thought would be this year, has been amazing
27:00 they put Marv in the slot a ton this game. Maybe he’s just not getting open or making catches!
I figured out Gannon’s one major weakness (great coach otherwise). He has no imprint on the offense. I literally think it’s just totally separate from him and delegated entirely to Petzing. Listen to the press conference clip in the beginning of this episode. He’s talking about the defense the whole time! There’s nothing to say about the defense at this point. Call out the mediocrity.
I love how everyone is just giving up on Marv. The dude is a rookie for crying out loud. Yes expectations were high and I'd be lying if I said he lived up to them. But if you don't think that he's gonna improve with time and better qb play/offensive play calling, I don't know what to tell you. He's gonna be a problem for the league soon enough.
I’ve been watching Kyler since high school. He looks broken, and idk if he can be fixed. Very worrying
What the fans want and what petzing want from this offence are clearly 2 completely different things. Fans nor happy with this game but I bet drew delighted, run game worked and mcbride got his catches that's the drew petzing offence. Only way that changes is fire drew!!
love u JV lol
trey is awesome
Lmao “your dad’s a hall of famer!”
“You don’t need to work with Fitz, just go home” is line of the year 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I only made it 8 minutes. You guys are just too negative for me. I DEFINITELY can’t listen after they lose and now I can’t listen after a win.
The offence's confidence pre bi is missing post bi. The vibe is wrong, the timing is off, and the mojo has vanished. I've been blaming the trenches, but it's more than that. They'd better get a witch doctor in here and figure this shit out!
l said 8 wins this year
You guys are over reacting a little bit I think, Kyler still completed over 70% and all the scores were writhing 3 yds. Those touchdowns all could’ve been passed just called a run
No, you're under reacting
Fair points
Kyler is a check down merchant. Mainly because of Petzing
@elawen5 he has became the check down merchant. He's a game manager now. I guess if it works, keep doing it. But, Petzing needs to draw up some downfield plays.
@@seancue2803 The downfield plays aren't working often enough when they are called
drew got to go for sure
don't want to see this crap next year
It’s crazy. All the local guys that cover the Cardinals, except for a few, call the Cardinals we and us when they win. But when they lose, it’s them not us!!! Fair weather reporters.
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Maybe you & the crew need to realize something there Jonny boy, the offense isn’t broken, it’s exactly what JG & Monty want it to be. They want to run the ball, play excellent defense behind that running game, and grind out victory’s. To my knowledge neither JG or Monty ever stated the Offense would be the strength of the team, its a fabrication created by phnx that you’ve sold to the fans. Btw MHj isn’t dealing with a disconnect, he’s dealing with this isn’t Ohio State anymore, and these are grown-ass men he’s dealing with. His lack of physicality and inability to catch any contested balls is more than telling, it’s an inditement. I never expect any answers from you, so when you don’t I won’t be disappointed; you don’t like any view that’s not yours.
@@MizakiFelixif the offense isnt the strength of the team, why waste marv Harrison
@@MizakiFelix Oh man, so much to take in here. First off, the investments with first-round picks and money allocated warrants high expectations with this offense. They attempted to mirror what Philly did early with JG...load the offense and let he/Rallis help the defense overachieve. We always welcome opposing views, as long as it's done in a respectful manner.
@johnnyvenerable4501 Johnny that jacket is crazy. 🔥🔥🔥
Good question, I didn’t wanna draft him in the first place I wanted to trade the pic. I’ve been saying for months and months and months, even before the draft that he wasn’t a fit for the team.
Its funny how you all complain about a win. Our offense is above average for scoring and our defense is near the top. We will hopefully get a left gaurd and some dline and we will be great next year. Stop whinning we are winning football games
Don"t
Cardinals fans are so precious lol. They complain when they lose the game, then when they win a game they complain they didn’t win it the way they wanted to win.
You don't understand football.
@@midwestaarron😂
It's about getting better.
@ lmao. You aren’t the only one who played dude. Since before the draft I said don’t draft a wr and address the defense. I’ve said this offense doesn’t value wr’s it runs through the running game & it’s passing game goes through it’s te’s, rb’s, and short passing game. Hell, it’s not my fault Monty wasted a pick on a player who doesn’t fit, is soft, and was overhyped because of his dad’s career. MHj is a lazy route runner, puts forth little effort if he’s not getting the ball, won’t make plays on the ball if it’s not perfectly thrown, and can’t catch contested balls. We shouldn’t have drafted him, & should definitely trade him away for something that will help this team.
Maybe it’s time fans realize this offense isn’t broken. The offense is exactly what the cardinals want it to be. They never intended to be a high powered passing attack. They’ve always planned on being a run first offense who plays excellent defense behind that running game, and grind out victory’s.
To my knowledge neither JG & Monty never stated the offense would be the strength of this team. That is a fabrication created by Jonny & crew with no supporting evidence to my knowledge.
100% I think you've got a situation where you've got the fans and bidwell wanting a exciting passing offence that gets MHJ 1200 yards etc and then you've got petzing wanting a run first throw to mcbride underneath and then use MHJ in the end zone type offence and JG and Monti in the middle. Just doesn't feel like everyone pulling in the same direction atm
Then you probably shouldn't have drafted MHJ if that's the case. We can still be a run heavy team and I'm okay with it but the passing game is severely flawed. You won't beat the Green Bays, Minnesotas, Philadelphias in the playoffs that way.
@ agreed, we wasted a pick on motorscooter Marc. We should have traded the pick and addressed the defense.
The expectation was because of the talent level. MHJ is a high draft pick, Kyler was a #1 overall pick and has shown flashes of excellence, McBride is at worst a top 5 tight end, James Conner is at least a top 10 RB, and the OL (especially PJJ) is pretty talented. The defense was seen as Budda Baker and a bunch of other guys.
@ the problem was the false expectations placed on this offense. fans expected the offense to drastically change between last year and this year just because we wasted a pic on a wide receiver in the top 10. The office is functioning. The way is designed to, run the ball throw the ball to the tight ends and backs lol, people simply don’t want to expect that fact. in the last two years, they have split the top 100 graphics almost evenly between offensive defense, but they have drafted more defensive, starters and offensive starters lol, when it comes to us, people had false expectations built around this team because of Marvin Harrison Junior, LMAO and expected the team to change his philosophy just because of him
They expected falsely so, with no supporting evidence that somehow the offense would be the strength of the team. There is the problem with this entire situation.
bo lmao
Sorry we didn’t give the guy on the right what he wanted. You are far cry from anything the resembles a coach.
These guys are some of the worst.
This team isn’t going to the Playoffs, PERIOD! They will lose at least one game out of the next three! The Cardinals beat a GARBAGE team today and the Homers are all excited! What a joke! Did you see the interception that Murray threw today? What a HORRIBLE DECISION AND PASS! He’s lucky that he got a flag for Roughing the Passer! This guy needs to go BYE BYE NOW!!! HE’S AWFUL!!!
I agree.
Kyler is still an above average QB. You get rid of him to go gambling in the draft you can end up like Seattle at best, the Giants at worst.