I feel like the re recording process is what gave Taylor “permission” to make midnights and TTPD such long albums. Our response to the vault tracks made her realize that she can put every song out that belongs on the album and we will embrace it!
I think the re recordings brought “OG” and new Swifties together ; now we have ALL gotten to experience Red, 1989, Speak now instead of just the OG Swifties being able to remember the release: and we ALL got to hear the vault for the first time together
It’s the delightful consequence of these re-records: collectively connecting her fan base and bringing us all into the depths of fathomings and clowning and girlhood together.
i don’t agree because the rep era is too early in the setlist and adding i did something bad would spoil it haha maybe she would add it the next show after announcing rep tv
i think for rep tv that she’ll announce it on the last show in London because she announced 1989 TV during the last American show, and london is the last european show and london is a very special city to her. i think she’ll release it on Friday, September 13 edit: well it seems taylor had some other surprises in for us lol including jack, florence and the machine, and icdiwabh mv! if i now had to guess, i think she’ll announce rep tv on the last eras show on dec 8 and release rep and debut in 2025, which makes sense since 2021, 2023, and 2025 would have two taylor’s versions each and 2022 and 2024 would have their own albums (and perhaps 2026 then too!)
One thing I think about non stop is how ‘thanK you aIMee’ is literally rep x debut’s child. She’s singing about rep era, over a debut type beat. Then there’s songs like Cassandra, who’s afraid of little old me, the prophecy, I’m gonna get you back, so long London, which are either lyrically or sonically reminiscent of rep era. But then songs like the Bolter, thank you Aimee, the prophecy that have that acoustic or country feel like debut or even evermore. so i definitely TTPDTA was inspired by going from midnights/SNTV/1989TV going into re-recording debut and rep. It’s like the perfect cross over between them all.
I feel like her debut album will be the last re-recording that Taylor will do because it’s name is Taylor Swift. It could be her way of saying this is who she is. She is her own person at the end of the day and nobody can take that away from her. I hope that makes sense
i keep thinking she will wait for the 20 year anniversary of debut to release her version. i know it's two years away, but it would be pretty iconic. 🙈
Yes, it was genius dropping the ERAS tour movie midway through. People in theatres everywhere brought the same joy, and experience of her stadium tour to small theatres. It was fantastic!!
I actually NEED more videos like this. I can literally sit here for hours and listen to you two talk (and honestly, about literally everything, just talk).
why do i feel like this is gonna be the reality ajsjsjsj they just always kind of have a specialty to do these things right before taylor is doing something lol 😭
I totally agree that TTPD feels like a combo of Rep & Debut. “But Daddy I Love Him” feels SO debut & songs like “Down Bad” give me all the Rep vibes. I’m obsessed with her saving her name & reputation til the end of the re-recordings… Mother knows how to make a statement. 💚🖤
TTPD era reminds me so much rep era because of the getaway car repeating again. Rep was her with calvin, making tom the getaway car and ultimately finding joe who was superior to all her other exes. She literally says in ready for it " younger than my exes but he act like such a man though". Similarly in TTPD she was with joe, matty was the getaway car and she found travis who again seems to make her feel like never before cause she says " no ones ever had me not like you" in so high school. Both ready for it and so highschool were the first songs introducing us to these new people. THE PATTERNS!
‘Always find your way back home’ would be such a nice single to end the re-records also debut being her first album it just feels right to end it with debut
the lore of the taylor swift universe is really the most intriguing lore in any fandom. i don't think anyone can engage in an artist's past, present, and future as much as taylor's. can't explain how her experience in the industry is so layered. it just is.
I think she's gonna release Rep on Sept 13th. The anniversary of the day kanye went on stage and started their feud and debut will be released on her birthday. Both are Fridays this year
Friday the 13th was on the calendar in her Spotify museum thing… and both of the dates 9/13 and 12/13 are Fridays. I think she may show us they’re coming, at some point, but I think those will be the release dates. But how iconic to surprise drop Rep the same day KW releases his album. My god, the power her fan axe has would keep him off the Billboard altogether.
I think that would be iconic but maybe they will be the announcement days not release? If she drops anything before October, it would compete with TTPD for AOTY and I think she might really want to give Rep a chance to shine when she was so hurt when the original wasn’t recognized.
Debut will unquestionably be the final one and I think it’s going to surprise a lot of people. I think it will be another double album with some amazing collabs with country legends (like Dolly). The biggest thing is it will inaugurate her return to the Country genre. The Country and Americana genres make so much sense for the mature Taylor (with a family of her own?). Winning a CMA award would be the perfect full circle moment.
Rep is going to be announced last show London and released on the 13 September (vma, 2009) because there’s nearly 2 months off from the eras tour, makes sense, to play the vault tracks in the North American continent. Then debut announcement at the end of the tour. That is my guess.
I believe she has set a pattern of new album 1 year followed by 2 re-records the next (2020: evermore 21: Fearless & Red; 2022: Midnights 23: SN & 1989). This also makes sense because of Grammy’s. She obviously wants her older albums to have a second chance at winning awards without interfering with her current new album. Ex: after Evermore was nominated at the Grammy’s in 2021 she did not put up Fearless but rather Red for the 2022 Grammy’s. So I believe she will announce Rep on Aug 2nd but release it after the October Grammy cutoff this year to not interfere with TTPD. (If you read this all then thank you for listening to me yap🫶)
Like your theory! Do you think thats why she released Tortured Poets so early this year, even when 1989 came out in october last year? Because she already won a grammy for 1989 so she ”didnt need to win it again”? 🥰🌸
@@elnapeterssonre records don't count, you need the album to have 75% of new songs, the vault songs would be nominated for best songs but unfortunately re recorded albums can't be nominated for album of the year
my current theory is: rep tv announcement before the end of european leg then release sep 13, debut tv announcement either on the last show or before and release on dec 13 (this is just too perfect for her to pass up) and then maybe a doc w it??
I feel whatever happens with the re-releases, that after the tour she will enter a very long pause and 'just enjoy life' era. Good for her, sad for us after all the material she gave us this years😅
@@eimere I agree. She has given her all for years and it would be a good time to reset, relax, live more fully in the other parts of her life. That might include more investment in relationship/family/children too. She is at that age now.
Hi besties!!! This is such a concerning video considering we're all clowning for Warsaw N2!!! I hope we get Rep TV soon it's been a long time coming 😭😭
@@julzsandwichThere are many signs, the non-math ones i've stuck to (because my brain just cant math this), is that random Melbourne N2 surprise song triple mashup hinting at "rep aug 2" and also her Munich insta post pics (1st photo looks like Look what you made me do mv's T tower shot and the 8th photo is her holding up a ✌️). So many of us believe something about reputation HAS to happen on 2 August
Warsaw N2 is something I do not really care about. I do not pay much attention to what is going on with The Eras Tour. I only care about her next albums!
This is such a wonderful conversation, thank you for making this space for us swifties, besties. Your theory of Debut closing out the re-recordings alongside a documentary literally has me deceased. I hope that’s what happens.
The PERFECT video to listen to while doing chores!! Love this new format!!! Yall should start a podcast, everyone would be seated, clapping, and cheering!
I always thought it was really special that the first song Taylor owned was ME! It's just such a happy beginning to a horrible thing she had to go through, but yes evermore long pond studio sessions will forever be missed.
yes i agree, but people often switch the order of the final two horcruxes destruction because they’re so close together. Because Harry goes tot he forrest and dies and then as Hagrid brings him to the battle Neville kills Nagini. So it would be debut then rep which would just be so sneaky of her. I still think debut will be last since the project is called taylor’s version and she’d be taking back her name but from a commercial standpoint she could do rep last because it’s more likely to chart better and that could make them go out with a bang and aaaaaaaaah
I think that both Reputation and Debut re records both will get big album promo and hype like Red TV cuz both of those albums didn’t get Grammys, same with Red which makes me think she might heavily centre one of the vault tracks with promo and stuff like she did with All Too Well 10
definitely, when they said "this is gonna be so new for you guys" I was thinking not so much for us patreon folks, I've watched many a post surprise song chat.
my theory has always been she gets her reputation back then her name (debut) back - it's special these are the last two; it's like a homecoming for her💕
i wasn't surprised at all that she didn't release them all quickly because i can't imagine taylor wanted to release 6 albums in a row that contain all old work! it made complete sense to gives us new albums in between the re-records
The moments I see the new album covers for rep tv and debut tv my heart is going to stop. I’m so attached to the original ones, but so excited to see how Taylor reinterprets them yearrrsss later 👀
omg YOU GUYSSSS STOP IM JUST SO EXCITED RIGHT NOW. you literally opened my mind and i’m also thinking that debut will be the last re record thank you SO much for this video love u sm
My prediction is that she’ll play so long LONDON on piano on last night in London and then the end note will go into the beginning notes of I did something bad coz it sounds similar the piano note in those two songs and then after she’s done that mashup she’ll announce REP!
I became a swiftie because of Red TV, when everyone started to freak out about ATW 10 minute version. So yeah, I think the re-recordings brought a lot of people to the fandom
True But I’m starting to think Debut TV won’t come out until next Summer because around her birthday is when all the Christmas songs are going around especially Marah Carey it would make sense to release Debut TV in Spring Anyways I mean if Rep TV gets announced in August because there is so many hints she gave us for August then it might come out before December and she could possibly still announce Debut TV before the tour ends but it won’t get released until Spring or Summer next year! And there is also The Christmas Album we always forget about that re-record!!
NO WAY I WAS WAITCHING YOUR TTPD REACTION AGAIN AND I SWEAR I GOT THE NOTIFICATION AT THE LAST LYRIC OF THE MANUSCRIPT (tysm for that vid btw i was gonna go to sleep but now hell no haha)
ahhh for some reason I was waiting for this.... And my prediction is literally i did something bad, date goes on the screen, then ready for it plays idk why guys im so excited!!
Agree totally. And if she wears a new acoustic set black dress, I would scream. Pretty sure she’ll do it in Europe because she is going through the unplayed songs pretty quickly. If she drops RepTV before US and Canada, she can play the vault tracks on those dates.
My thoughts: - It will be only ONE doc called "The Eras" that will cover both re recordings and the tour as a blended experience for her, this thing of revisiting past eras and times of her life both on albums and on stage. - Rep will be announced on London 100%, debut might be announced right after for her birthday but I'm not sure the time will fit, she just might leave it for 2025 indeed but still announce on tour because cmon it's THE ERAS TOUR. - TS12 will come late 2025/2026 and will have a 1 am surprise ending the countdown for the greatest TS13. - About the albums and colors, I had also noticed how evermore could be seen as orangeish and that matches the yellow and red albums that came after it (also the chill country vibes). Then we had Midnights with purple and blue and sonically and thematically kinda matched SN and 1989 as well. TTPD obviously has black in it for rep and with a lot of heavy synth sounds but with a middle part (also the anthology) more country western influenced. And the sepia tones kinda gives off greenish too idk.
@@ICT-CerbitoPatrickRafaelM yeahhh I don't mean like a double release, but how just like in 2022 Midnights had the 3am surprise, this year TTPD had the 2 am surprise, TS12 will have a 1am surprise for then TS13 have a bigger surprise ending this 321 countdown
Folklore was the second coming of Fearless. critical acclaim. (red yellow = orange) Midnights was the second coming of 1989. commercial acclaim (blue + purple = midnight) TTPD was the second coming of Reputation. public backlash to her imperial eras (1989/midnights) (black. but softer)
Your timing is insane, I’ve had such a difficult week and I needed my girlies, my big sisters to just bring me back and I already feel healed. Love you guys🩷
Please do more of the chats part of chats & reacts!!🥰 and also I really enjoy that you are keeping the sitting on the floor perspective, it feels so comfy:)
i have been a swiftie since i was in primary school now i'm 4 years out of high school and what makes me super emotional is because of the era's tour and seeing the film i've had the chance to meet new best friend swifties and understand other girls better than i ever have before and being able to tell our stories of when we discovered taylor has been such a rewarding experience as someone who found it hard to find a clique. i really hope we get Rep TV next...!! listening to the re-recordings has been wild to remember where i was when they came out ahhhh. i love you swifties so much, i'm so excited for whatever Taylor does NEXT !!!!!!
Thanks for mentioning how great it is for those who were not around the first time. I've only been a Taylor Swift fan for about a year now and its so exciting to watch this with all of you who have been here for almost two decades. Also hope you are right cause I'm going from Canada to London two weeks from today for the Eras tour.
I really loved this chat! I really hope that reputation is next, I think it could be a huge celebration for the end of the tour to release the most anticipated re-recording. It would also be a wonderful reflection upon a time when Taylor wasn’t really liked in this new era where everyone on the planet is obsessed. She’s come so, so far from where she was then. I’m also just very grateful to experience all of this, I couldn’t get tickets for the eras tour but having all of this new music gave me a lot to look forward to still. Thank you Taylor :)
I’m a huge potterhead-Swiftie, and the theory of horcrus is hitting HARD-Hard, I’m gag…. I really can’t wait this really happening in the very recent future… For Rep TV announcement, I imagine she would wear a brand new rep outfit, and when the rep section end after she’s going down the stage, instead of the snake going down across the screen, it’s a flash show “reputation , *release date*” then normally move on the folklore-evermore section. Just simple, powerful impact move is what a reckon when she announce Rep TV
i'm from Poland and I was at that show the second of august and we were clowning HARD, like you have no idea. we all collectively held our breaths when she was coming out for rep, it's actually hilarious now I also saw that at the very beginning she held her hand up with three fingers, idk i'm pretty sure my mind made that up, bc i don't think anyone said anything about it... anyway, as always, I love your videos, you two make me fathom things on such deep and spiritual way, it's insane, like i would never connect the dots about rerecordings and albums that she releases in the meantime. I feel blessed to have you and Taylor being absolutely superior humans, thank you, love you both like the closest friends
She is a genius of marketing - after I got over my anger at the cut songs from Eras movie, I KNEW they would be added back at a later stage. When they were just snippets as an extra on Prime, her madness was revealed. Adding something back or a new twist to give fans something to keep them wanting to watch it again and again. I know they teach college courses on her lyrics but they should teach one on her marketing mad genius ❤
I went to college for music business and by the time i graduated i was extremely burnt out on anything music. Still loved it though 😅 but the past 2 years you and Taylor have sparked that joy again, and it makes me really happy you guys seem to enjoy, love, and appreciate music the same way it always has for me. Not a lot of people in life get my obsession (i love taylor but i LOVE music and vinyl collecting in general) but you guys do! Makes me feel a little less alone. Thank you ❤
I was fathoming the re-recordings era with my friends last weekend, so your timing with this video is insane...! Our particular conversation was more around the master marketing around releasing re-recordings... she made it into a heroe's journey and garnered fans and everyone else to the cause. Blew the whole thing out of proportion in the most wonderful way... we're truly lucky to witness and live at this point in time
2:44 i honestly think more new swifties came at the records than they did for the new album. coz we all want nostalgia. i became a swiftie when red tv came out (very very new i knows) because i spent so much time listening to we are never ever getting back together, i knew you were trouble and 22 that when i heard there would be new versions of the songs i was very excited and then once i’d heard them i spiralled and now i’m a swiftie. these re records are probably the best thing taylor has done for us and herself and they’re so special as most other artists don’t even do things like this and i honestly really don’t want them to end so i want her to take ages for rep and debut. i don’t even think they’re coming out this year anyway but i really want them to take a long time
Loving these theories. Everytime I watch one of your videos I wonder if Taylor is watching as well and giggling and/or taking notes. And if Taylor reads my comment - we love you! ❤️
"evermore long pond" YES SPEAK OUR TRUTH BONNY!!!!
why?
BECAUSE WE WANT IT
I feel like the re recording process is what gave Taylor “permission” to make midnights and TTPD such long albums. Our response to the vault tracks made her realize that she can put every song out that belongs on the album and we will embrace it!
I really love getting vault tracks.
I think the re recordings brought “OG” and new Swifties together ; now we have ALL gotten to experience Red, 1989, Speak now instead of just the OG Swifties being able to remember the release: and we ALL got to hear the vault for the first time together
It’s the delightful consequence of these re-records: collectively connecting her fan base and bringing us all into the depths of fathomings and clowning and girlhood together.
A became a Swiftie because of Fearless (Taylor’s Version) 💛💛
Taylor will suddenly add "I Did Something Bad" to the setlist and announce Rep TV that same night
I dreamt this last night!
if she did that i would actually die lmao
i don’t agree because the rep era is too early in the setlist and adding i did something bad would spoil it haha
maybe she would add it the next show after announcing rep tv
@@adamp327 I mean it would be her doing something bad in a way lol
It will be a surprise song but I don’t think it will be in the setlist that night
i think for rep tv that she’ll announce it on the last show in London because she announced 1989 TV during the last American show, and london is the last european show and london is a very special city to her. i think she’ll release it on Friday, September 13
edit: well it seems taylor had some other surprises in for us lol including jack, florence and the machine, and icdiwabh mv!
if i now had to guess, i think she’ll announce rep tv on the last eras show on dec 8 and release rep and debut in 2025, which makes sense since 2021, 2023, and 2025 would have two taylor’s versions each and 2022 and 2024 would have their own albums (and perhaps 2026 then too!)
Absolutely agree. ❤
@@thecoasterauthority the location and date makes that a real possibility, definitely.
its also when kanye interrupted taylor in 2009
@@gummyworm9107 oh wow yeah you’re right! then yeah that’s another reason to add then lol
I made many concepts of what happens during the eras tour set(s) during the reputation tv announcement show! please check it out❤
One thing I think about non stop is how ‘thanK you aIMee’ is literally rep x debut’s child.
She’s singing about rep era, over a debut type beat.
Then there’s songs like Cassandra, who’s afraid of little old me, the prophecy, I’m gonna get you back, so long London, which are either lyrically or sonically reminiscent of rep era.
But then songs like the Bolter, thank you Aimee, the prophecy that have that acoustic or country feel like debut or even evermore.
so i definitely TTPDTA was inspired by going from midnights/SNTV/1989TV going into re-recording debut and rep.
It’s like the perfect cross over between them all.
HOOOOW is SLL Rep??????? The Joe loving album????
@@shelbyswindall9192a sad song over an uptempo beat.
I feel like her debut album will be the last re-recording that Taylor will do because it’s name is Taylor Swift. It could be her way of saying this is who she is. She is her own person at the end of the day and nobody can take that away from her. I hope that makes sense
@@fluffythecat8526 in the Harry Potter analogy - she reclaimed all her horcruxes! Yes it makes perfect sense.
i keep thinking she will wait for the 20 year anniversary of debut to release her version. i know it's two years away, but it would be pretty iconic. 🙈
It's always a good day when it's time to sit down and talk about Taylor.
Yes, it was genius dropping the ERAS tour movie midway through. People in theatres everywhere brought the same joy, and experience of her stadium tour to small theatres. It was fantastic!!
I actually NEED more videos like this.
I can literally sit here for hours and listen to you two talk (and honestly, about literally everything, just talk).
it would be pretty iconic if Rep TV gets announced tomorrow night, right after you guys post this 😆
YESSSSSSS!!!!
Doubt it she’s doing it in London. They’re getting so many influencers to the London dates it’s insane
@@serenasomerset also just the fact that Rep is Joe album should be giving cluez
If she did this today i am gonna die😵
Thats my show🔥🔥
why do i feel like this is gonna be the reality ajsjsjsj they just always kind of have a specialty to do these things right before taylor is doing something lol 😭
Imagine the rep outfit slowly starts changing - like the old one is shedding - and then the last day it’s all different is when she announces rep tv
FUCK NO I WOULD DIE
i personally think she wont change the outfit even when she announces, only when rep tv comes out... because only by then it will be truly hers
I love this ideaaaa
The old one is not shedding. It’s always looked like that
I made many concepts of what happens during the eras tour set(s) during the reputation tv announcement show! please check it out❤
I totally agree that TTPD feels like a combo of Rep & Debut. “But Daddy I Love Him” feels SO debut & songs like “Down Bad” give me all the Rep vibes. I’m obsessed with her saving her name & reputation til the end of the re-recordings… Mother knows how to make a statement. 💚🖤
Yep and she released it as a double album so I am guessing that she will drop both rep and debut re-records at the same time.
TTPD era reminds me so much rep era because of the getaway car repeating again.
Rep was her with calvin, making tom the getaway car and ultimately finding joe who was superior to all her other exes. She literally says in ready for it " younger than my exes but he act like such a man though".
Similarly in TTPD she was with joe, matty was the getaway car and she found travis who again seems to make her feel like never before cause she says " no ones ever had me not like you" in so high school. Both ready for it and so highschool were the first songs introducing us to these new people.
THE PATTERNS!
OMG I don't see this 🎉
‘Always find your way back home’ would be such a nice single to end the re-records also debut being her first album it just feels right to end it with debut
the lore of the taylor swift universe is really the most intriguing lore in any fandom. i don't think anyone can engage in an artist's past, present, and future as much as taylor's. can't explain how her experience in the industry is so layered. it just is.
The horcruxes thing is beyond concerning!!! Why is she so damn smart?!
I made many concepts of what happens during the eras tour set(s) during the reputation tv announcement show! please check it out❤
I think she's gonna release Rep on Sept 13th. The anniversary of the day kanye went on stage and started their feud and debut will be released on her birthday. Both are Fridays this year
😂 Would be Iconic!
Absolutely agree. Perfect scenario!
She does have a gap in tour dates over that time. And she finishes the tour just before her birthday. All good shouts!
Friday the 13th was on the calendar in her Spotify museum thing… and both of the dates 9/13 and 12/13 are Fridays. I think she may show us they’re coming, at some point, but I think those will be the release dates.
But how iconic to surprise drop Rep the same day KW releases his album. My god, the power her fan axe has would keep him off the Billboard altogether.
I think that would be iconic but maybe they will be the announcement days not release? If she drops anything before October, it would compete with TTPD for AOTY and I think she might really want to give Rep a chance to shine when she was so hurt when the original wasn’t recognized.
Debut will unquestionably be the final one and I think it’s going to surprise a lot of people. I think it will be another double album with some amazing collabs with country legends (like Dolly). The biggest thing is it will inaugurate her return to the Country genre. The Country and Americana genres make so much sense for the mature Taylor (with a family of her own?). Winning a CMA award would be the perfect full circle moment.
Rep is going to be announced last show London and released on the 13 September (vma, 2009) because there’s nearly 2 months off from the eras tour, makes sense, to play the vault tracks in the North American continent. Then debut announcement at the end of the tour. That is my guess.
Same. I really think she’ll announce Debut in USA
@@birdsong62yee haw 🇺🇸
🎉🎉🎉
I believe she has set a pattern of new album 1 year followed by 2 re-records the next (2020: evermore 21: Fearless & Red; 2022: Midnights 23: SN & 1989). This also makes sense because of Grammy’s. She obviously wants her older albums to have a second chance at winning awards without interfering with her current new album. Ex: after Evermore was nominated at the Grammy’s in 2021 she did not put up Fearless but rather Red for the 2022 Grammy’s. So I believe she will announce Rep on Aug 2nd but release it after the October Grammy cutoff this year to not interfere with TTPD.
(If you read this all then thank you for listening to me yap🫶)
2020 had two new albums but i get what you mean lol
Like your theory! Do you think thats why she released Tortured Poets so early this year, even when 1989 came out in october last year? Because she already won a grammy for 1989 so she ”didnt need to win it again”? 🥰🌸
@@elnapeterssonre records don't count, you need the album to have 75% of new songs, the vault songs would be nominated for best songs but unfortunately re recorded albums can't be nominated for album of the year
At this point I’m just gonna wait for rep TV to be a surprise drop ‘cause my mind won’t handle another night of clowning, I’M IMPATIENT.
😅😅😅😅
This is the realest thing some1 has ever said 😭😭😂
same i literslly cannot spend another second thinking about it 😂 im just gonna be ready for it(..? lol)
Lmao same... 😂🐍
EVERMORE LONG PONDS HAD ME ROLLINGGG IM CRYINGGGG I LOVE YOU GUYS HAHA
weit can you explain what they mean by that? I’m confused since there is only a folklore long pond studio session
@@laraschmitz9692they are evermore stans and are saying it’s a crime taylor never gave us an evermore long pond session like she did for folklore :)
The horcruxes!!! 🤯😅
All hail ✨ Mother Swiftemort ✨
I am ILL that is such an offensive theory
All hail ✨ Mother Swiftemort ✨
My comments keep disappearing 😭
The horcrux thing is so insane it's actually a bit scary 😂🤯🤯
I like the theory of her releasing Rep TV for the insane hype, but then winding down the Eras Tour and releasing Debut TV and a documentary.
I dropped my jaw when you retold the Harry Potter horocruxe fan-theory at 10:40
I love to have videos like this! They are so nice to have you guys talk abt these topics!
You'll always find your way back home (TV) would be deeply superior and iconic, completely full circle moment! 🤩
my current theory is: rep tv announcement before the end of european leg then release sep 13, debut tv announcement either on the last show or before and release on dec 13 (this is just too perfect for her to pass up) and then maybe a doc w it??
Literally same.
I just had the September 13th fathoming! I didn’t think anyone else realized it ahhhh
I made many concepts of what happens during the eras tour set(s) during the reputation tv announcement show! please check it out❤
please please please do more of this! i could listen to you guys talk for hours
I feel whatever happens with the re-releases, that after the tour she will enter a very long pause and 'just enjoy life' era. Good for her, sad for us after all the material she gave us this years😅
@@eimere I agree. She has given her all for years and it would be a good time to reset, relax, live more fully in the other parts of her life. That might include more investment in relationship/family/children too. She is at that age now.
I like the idea of the last re-recording being debut! It feels so full circle having the re-recording journey end with the beginning of Taylor Swift 💛
I think we can all agree that documentary is definitely what we need! I really hope she does that!
Hi besties!!! This is such a concerning video considering we're all clowning for Warsaw N2!!! I hope we get Rep TV soon it's been a long time coming 😭😭
OFC WE ARE if its not tomorrow the math is so dead
@@FolknighturedobsessedHI PEOPLE why are we clowning for warsaw n2??? i need to know all the details
@@julzsandwichThere are many signs, the non-math ones i've stuck to (because my brain just cant math this), is that random Melbourne N2 surprise song triple mashup hinting at "rep aug 2" and also her Munich insta post pics (1st photo looks like Look what you made me do mv's T tower shot and the 8th photo is her holding up a ✌️). So many of us believe something about reputation HAS to happen on 2 August
@@Folknighturedobsessedwhy would it be tomorrow? 😂 do you use your brain? Why would she announce it in Poland instead of at Wembley???
Warsaw N2 is something I do not really care about. I do not pay much attention to what is going on with The Eras Tour. I only care about her next albums!
She, herself, is ✨timeless✨
This is such a wonderful conversation, thank you for making this space for us swifties, besties. Your theory of Debut closing out the re-recordings alongside a documentary literally has me deceased. I hope that’s what happens.
Emily's hand actions are so intriguing I always think that she's talking in sign language as well as English
Plus Bonie's messy hair is GIVING
Cruel Summer being snubbed as the lead single has always confused me. It's such an iconic song.
The PERFECT video to listen to while doing chores!! Love this new format!!! Yall should start a podcast, everyone would be seated, clapping, and cheering!
I always thought it was really special that the first song Taylor owned was ME! It's just such a happy beginning to a horrible thing she had to go through, but yes evermore long pond studio sessions will forever be missed.
i LOVE this style of video. would love to see more chats in the futureeeee
I love videos like this so much, it's so cool to see you guys talk about these type of things
You two are such gems. Love a chat and need more whenever you feel called!
your videos always pop up at the exact time i need them. loved this chat soooo much
We LOVE a chat too. I could hear you guys talk forever, a podcast is needed.
Oh I’m soooo first for this 😜 patiently waiting for the Patreon postttttt
Same 😅
The Horcruxes motif makes me believe that it will be Rep and then Debut. Cause she's just a millennial girlie.
But wasn’t Nagini the last to be killed? Harry ‘killed’ himSELF before that.
So wouldn’t that mean debut, then rep? 🤷🏼♂️
@@MrFraserAnderson yeah it makes more sense to do debut and then end on Rep if she's doing it like that!
✨ Mother Swiftemort ✨
Then it would be the other way around!
yes i agree, but people often switch the order of the final two horcruxes destruction because they’re so close together. Because Harry goes tot he forrest and dies and then as Hagrid brings him to the battle Neville kills Nagini. So it would be debut then rep which would just be so sneaky of her. I still think debut will be last since the project is called taylor’s version and she’d be taking back her name but from a commercial standpoint she could do rep last because it’s more likely to chart better and that could make them go out with a bang and aaaaaaaaah
I think that both Reputation and Debut re records both will get big album promo and hype like Red TV cuz both of those albums didn’t get Grammys, same with Red which makes me think she might heavily centre one of the vault tracks with promo and stuff like she did with All Too Well 10
the tea intro?!?! i feel like im in our lil patreon home
definitely, when they said "this is gonna be so new for you guys" I was thinking not so much for us patreon folks, I've watched many a post surprise song chat.
my theory has always been she gets her reputation back then her name (debut) back - it's special these are the last two; it's like a homecoming for her💕
i wasn't surprised at all that she didn't release them all quickly because i can't imagine taylor wanted to release 6 albums in a row that contain all old work! it made complete sense to gives us new albums in between the re-records
The moments I see the new album covers for rep tv and debut tv my heart is going to stop. I’m so attached to the original ones, but so excited to see how Taylor reinterprets them yearrrsss later 👀
Isn’t the album cover already in the Spotify queue ??
omg YOU GUYSSSS STOP IM JUST SO EXCITED RIGHT NOW. you literally opened my mind and i’m also thinking that debut will be the last re record thank you SO much for this video love u sm
The hair in this video is serving
My prediction is that she’ll play so long LONDON on piano on last night in London and then the end note will go into the beginning notes of I did something bad coz it sounds similar the piano note in those two songs and then after she’s done that mashup she’ll announce REP!
I became a swiftie because of Red TV, when everyone started to freak out about ATW 10 minute version. So yeah, I think the re-recordings brought a lot of people to the fandom
December 13 is a Friday. Releasing "Taylor Swift" (Debut) on her birthday would be iconic.
True But I’m starting to think Debut TV won’t come out until next Summer because around her birthday is when all the Christmas songs are going around especially Marah Carey it would make sense to release Debut TV in Spring Anyways I mean if Rep TV gets announced in August because there is so many hints she gave us for August then it might come out before December and she could possibly still announce Debut TV before the tour ends but it won’t get released until Spring or Summer next year! And there is also The Christmas Album we always forget about that re-record!!
NO WAY I WAS WAITCHING YOUR TTPD REACTION AGAIN AND I SWEAR I GOT THE NOTIFICATION AT THE LAST LYRIC OF THE MANUSCRIPT (tysm for that vid btw i was gonna go to sleep but now hell no haha)
imagine she announces it tomorrow 😫
PLEASE keep posting this kinda videosss😍😍😍
These type of videos are my favorite! And Bonnie looks beautiful 💜
i could listen to you guys geek out about TS all day. please do more chats!!
This channel is central to the Swiftie experience
I love these two so MUCH ❤
ahhh for some reason I was waiting for this....
And my prediction is literally i did something bad, date goes on the screen, then ready for it plays
idk why guys im so excited!!
Agree totally. And if she wears a new acoustic set black dress, I would scream. Pretty sure she’ll do it in Europe because she is going through the unplayed songs pretty quickly. If she drops RepTV before US and Canada, she can play the vault tracks on those dates.
@@DrMLE-76 OMG YESSS!!! this woman is a mastermind
CAN YOU GUYS PLEASE MAKE MORE VIDEOS LIKE THIS?? i deeply love it
I needed this… so much. Just a chat. thank uuu❤ love you guys
i need more videos like this thank you for blessing us
ITS THE WAY I JUMPED UP AND DOWN!! YOU GUYS ARE THE BEST SWIFTIES!!!!!
My thoughts:
- It will be only ONE doc called "The Eras" that will cover both re recordings and the tour as a blended experience for her, this thing of revisiting past eras and times of her life both on albums and on stage.
- Rep will be announced on London 100%, debut might be announced right after for her birthday but I'm not sure the time will fit, she just might leave it for 2025 indeed but still announce on tour because cmon it's THE ERAS TOUR.
- TS12 will come late 2025/2026 and will have a 1 am surprise ending the countdown for the greatest TS13.
- About the albums and colors, I had also noticed how evermore could be seen as orangeish and that matches the yellow and red albums that came after it (also the chill country vibes). Then we had Midnights with purple and blue and sonically and thematically kinda matched SN and 1989 as well. TTPD obviously has black in it for rep and with a lot of heavy synth sounds but with a middle part (also the anthology) more country western influenced. And the sepia tones kinda gives off greenish too idk.
pretty sure TS13 will come at her own remote time, not right after another album
@@ICT-CerbitoPatrickRafaelM yeahhh I don't mean like a double release, but how just like in 2022 Midnights had the 3am surprise, this year TTPD had the 2 am surprise, TS12 will have a 1am surprise for then TS13 have a bigger surprise ending this 321 countdown
@@Felipe-zp8ti ah I get it now. That's actually genius!
@@ICT-CerbitoPatrickRafaelM not my idea though hahahaha 😅
We love when we break up the reacts with a chat ☕
We love a good chat with you ladies! Thanks for all the effort
Love ya
This was exactly the chat I was hoping for from yall!!! you guys always know!!!
This is absolutely, deeply superior. I love this style of video. And I love you guys. Continue to do amazing things!!
I'm obsessed with your outfits and you guys ❤
loved you guys take on the whole re recordings and the eras tour and I'd love to see more of this chats format !!!
Folklore was the second coming of Fearless. critical acclaim. (red yellow = orange)
Midnights was the second coming of 1989. commercial acclaim (blue + purple = midnight)
TTPD was the second coming of Reputation. public backlash to her imperial eras (1989/midnights) (black. but softer)
Emily's entire look omg
coming from the future to tell about how she sang idsb but there was no rep announcement… big clowning in of all times !!!
loved this chat and your fathomings on the re-record vault tracks & current album connection so much🎀🫶
I'm so glad they will have such good role models. I'm so proud of you girls
Your timing is insane, I’ve had such a difficult week and I needed my girlies, my big sisters to just bring me back and I already feel healed. Love you guys🩷
Please do more of the chats part of chats & reacts!!🥰 and also I really enjoy that you are keeping the sitting on the floor perspective, it feels so comfy:)
Love the reacts, but please more chats! Loved the video, the vibes were great, blessed way to start my morning. Thank you guys, love you!
i have been a swiftie since i was in primary school now i'm 4 years out of high school and what makes me super emotional is because of the era's tour and seeing the film i've had the chance to meet new best friend swifties and understand other girls better than i ever have before and being able to tell our stories of when we discovered taylor has been such a rewarding experience as someone who found it hard to find a clique. i really hope we get Rep TV next...!! listening to the re-recordings has been wild to remember where i was when they came out ahhhh. i love you swifties so much, i'm so excited for whatever Taylor does NEXT !!!!!!
I think you two always do the best analysis.....love it!!!!
Thanks for mentioning how great it is for those who were not around the first time. I've only been a Taylor Swift fan for about a year now and its so exciting to watch this with all of you who have been here for almost two decades. Also hope you are right cause I'm going from Canada to London two weeks from today for the Eras tour.
i need 3 hours of you two just talking, it feels like i'm there with you and I LOVEEE IT!!!
I loveeeeed this style of video😍🥰 lots of love for CHATS and for REACTS ✨
Absolutely love this format! Saves me from clowning too much on my Mastermind 😊
I really loved this chat! I really hope that reputation is next, I think it could be a huge celebration for the end of the tour to release the most anticipated re-recording. It would also be a wonderful reflection upon a time when Taylor wasn’t really liked in this new era where everyone on the planet is obsessed. She’s come so, so far from where she was then. I’m also just very grateful to experience all of this, I couldn’t get tickets for the eras tour but having all of this new music gave me a lot to look forward to still. Thank you Taylor :)
I’m a huge potterhead-Swiftie, and the theory of horcrus is hitting HARD-Hard, I’m gag….
I really can’t wait this really happening in the very recent future…
For Rep TV announcement, I imagine she would wear a brand new rep outfit, and when the rep section end after she’s going down the stage, instead of the snake going down across the screen, it’s a flash show “reputation , *release date*” then normally move on the folklore-evermore section. Just simple, powerful impact move is what a reckon when she announce Rep TV
i'm from Poland and I was at that show the second of august and we were clowning HARD, like you have no idea. we all collectively held our breaths when she was coming out for rep, it's actually hilarious now
I also saw that at the very beginning she held her hand up with three fingers, idk i'm pretty sure my mind made that up, bc i don't think anyone said anything about it... anyway, as always, I love your videos, you two make me fathom things on such deep and spiritual way, it's insane, like i would never connect the dots about rerecordings and albums that she releases in the meantime. I feel blessed to have you and Taylor being absolutely superior humans, thank you, love you both like the closest friends
yes we do love some chat, pls do moreee, love you guys!!
She is a genius of marketing - after I got over my anger at the cut songs from Eras movie, I KNEW they would be added back at a later stage. When they were just snippets as an extra on Prime, her madness was revealed. Adding something back or a new twist to give fans something to keep them wanting to watch it again and again. I know they teach college courses on her lyrics but they should teach one on her marketing mad genius ❤
I went to college for music business and by the time i graduated i was extremely burnt out on anything music. Still loved it though 😅 but the past 2 years you and Taylor have sparked that joy again, and it makes me really happy you guys seem to enjoy, love, and appreciate music the same way it always has for me. Not a lot of people in life get my obsession (i love taylor but i LOVE music and vinyl collecting in general) but you guys do! Makes me feel a little less alone. Thank you ❤
I was fathoming the re-recordings era with my friends last weekend, so your timing with this video is insane...! Our particular conversation was more around the master marketing around releasing re-recordings... she made it into a heroe's journey and garnered fans and everyone else to the cause. Blew the whole thing out of proportion in the most wonderful way... we're truly lucky to witness and live at this point in time
justice for fearless TV bc every re-record vinyl is in the background except fearless 😭😭
2:44 i honestly think more new swifties came at the records than they did for the new album. coz we all want nostalgia. i became a swiftie when red tv came out (very very new i knows) because i spent so much time listening to we are never ever getting back together, i knew you were trouble and 22 that when i heard there would be new versions of the songs i was very excited and then once i’d heard them i spiralled and now i’m a swiftie. these re records are probably the best thing taylor has done for us and herself and they’re so special as most other artists don’t even do things like this and i honestly really don’t want them to end so i want her to take ages for rep and debut. i don’t even think they’re coming out this year anyway but i really want them to take a long time
Loving these theories. Everytime I watch one of your videos I wonder if Taylor is watching as well and giggling and/or taking notes. And if Taylor reads my comment - we love you! ❤️
We know Scott is watching and shows them to Taylor!! He loves Bonny and Emily almost as much as we do!
More little chats like this would be so much appreciated guys!