I tried to scrape out that spec behind, on Neesham’s wall, thinking it was a spec on my phone. And that was more entertaining than Jimmy’s travel story.
Neesham is a very underrated Cricketer, always love watching him bat. Also Meridith was hitting 150 kph in NZ too, it's not only the Australian speed guns ;)
I don't know why always WestIndies is under rated going into t20 WC . Atleast not this time . They are double world champions. For me they are fovrites.
West Indies Bateman lacks defence n techniques. Just coz u swing the bat n hit it hard doesn't mean u can hit every ball out. If u face a good baller, they will eventually get out. But they have different styles, doesn't mean it's effective everytime
There was a lot of shade getting thrown there - every NZer knows how much it irritates Aussies when we call India the best test team, even if we don't truly believe it (we're NZers - you don't climb Everest without a bit of self-belief). #skeletons.
All the Kiwis that come on this podcast are so straight down the line. I just don't believe they're like this in real life, they must be putting it on to some extent.
@@br-md2xm Alright, but can we just move on from him, please? Our women's team destroyed South Africa in ODI today, FFS! Can we celebrate that instead of blabbering about how wrong Michael Vaughn was back in mid-Feb?
Guys! complaining about voice or audio quality. Please understand that JN is not using mic. here the quality is low. He is a millionaire! but doesn’t matter he need to keep a mic. this is a random interview 😂 appreciate the work behind. always complaining OMG 🤦♂️
Influence of Indian cricketers. These guys r Australian n Australia was playing new Zealand in T20 at the same time india was playing England n these guys chose to make a video on india vs England test.😂
#askGTC as a ritual we all know its mandatory for Indians to lose the match for the first time in a series. so following the chronology is India going to lose WTC like sacrifice to keep the big D energy forever :)
#asktgc ‘Western Christian psyche’ and ‘Indian asymmetry’ Boys! In one of the episodes, Sam made a profound point, on what he called the ‘western Christian psyche’ versus the ‘Indian asymmetry’ (I call the second the ‘Indic gaze’). It is a subject that has occupied me, on and off, since my first foray into the western world in Brissie, way back in 1998. I lived there for two years and got a close view of the Aussie way of life. Given the seriousness with which you, Sam; and also you, Ian; explored it while discussing the racial abuse fracas at Sydney, I thought perhaps you wouldn’t mind my writing a rather long missive on my experiences of it. I’d have preferred to record an audio; alas! that is not allowed on this platform. 1. I have found most white Australians, even well-meaning, well-read ones, to be in thrall with the idea of Aussies being fair-minded and being possessed of a superior sense of humour. What they probably do not accept, even when told, is that their idea of fairmindedness is flawed because they set the limits of what is fair both as an instigator and as a recipient. For example, an Aussie bloke (perhaps unwittingly) makes an offensive joke, his Indian acquaintance retorts with a caustic jab; the Aussie immediately says, ‘Mate, that was uncalled for; thats bloody rude’. The Indian bloke says, “but you started it with a particularly cruel jibe!! I’ve merely responded with a like insult”. Aussie bloke, “Bollocks! I was not rude, it was a joke. You cant be serious to say it was rude! I say that to everybody, even my Mum!”. If you then explain that it is for the other party to decide what is rude, in every case, the Aussie will say, “go on mate, you need to lighten up; this is Austraaayaa; we know how to take a piss.”…followed by raucous laughter. Unfailingly, every time. The celebrated example of this is that of the *’line’* that the Aussie cricket teams have often talked about…how Bhajji/Virat/Sachin/Jumbo/et al ~’crossed the line’~ at various times. I’ve often felt during many warmish arguments with my Aussie friends, that they genuinely feel entitled to draw the line because they are utterly convinced that they are more fair-minded than every body else. Its a fascinating study of a navel-gazing populace and one wonders if increased non-white interventions in the lives of Australians will make them more insular or more open? Right now, China and therefore, Chinese-Australians are a hot example of a hostile intervention. Interesting days ahead. 2. Australian males of an age-group - say 15 to 35, strive to be extraordinarily impolite in everyday situations, but are either totally unaware of it, or they celebrate it as some form of machismo. I’ve seen teenagers out-perform each other in talking utter crap to each other simply because it is the norm. It is encouraged as a superior social skill (by peers and seniors) to give it as good as they get, the ruder the better. The behaviour of adults in pubs, at games and even at the lunch table is no different. Such behaviour is encouraged and anybody who is seen to be uncomfortable, is instantly derided by many clever and hurtful epithets. No leeway is given to people from other cultures. They are expected to either understand it or lump it. Tom Gleeson’s TV persona in Hard Quiz/Hard Chat is a normative version of it. Paul Theroux has written about it in his book too, and both Alexander Frater and Bill Bryson allude to it, though in an affectionate way in their books. Australia is unique in this aspect amongst all anglo-sphere nations. 3. I’m not sure if this is a fact for the Aussie female because I spent no time with them, except for one memorable encounter opposite the Kangaroo Point quay on a Friday night - the yacht with a Chippendale kind of strip show for women had returned at midnight to dock - and I happened to be returning from my uni library on my way home, taking my usual short-cut through the quay; I was in a bicycle and was wearing cut-offs and a flimsy tee - it was summer. The women were blocking the path and I stopped, only to be bodily handled (ermm, hmm) by a few very large, bosomy, loud, widely smiling, but very drunk women of uncertain age. Jeez! I nearly shat, and after a few minutes of squirming to move out of range, and making my face look vulnerable and lost, I was rescued by the sober steward. He grinned and winked at my trembling, terrified self. I laugh at the memories now, but was I scared that night!! As you Aussie guys well know, Australia is actually run by its efficient, ambitious and altogether terrifying women :-p 4. While Aussies are getting exposed to other cultures in their own country, I’ve not found them to be comfortable about their “Whites Only” history; they are VERY uncomfortable about the relationship with the First Citizens, and though its now included in some school syllabi, most young folks I met at the uni had no idea about the forcible separation of children, about laws that did not allow ownership of land, etc. The facts of the Frontier Wars and the pogroms are not taught *at all*. In fact, in my experience as a maths tutor, I found that the Pacific Islanders were more ‘mainstreamed’ than the First Citizens (FC). I had many more of students from Kiribati, Marshall, Tonga, Fiji, etc; but only one FC from north QL. In my view, unless there is resolution of this relationship in the minds of *Every* Aussie, there is very little hope of Aussies opening up their collective minds to other races who now are the new immigrants. Ditto on the cricket field. Note that the Greek and Yugoslav immigrants, being white, are not subject to differentiation. The rest are. 5. What I am saying is that *perhaps* there is not much serious thought given to the way the Aussie (make) thinks. Instead effort has been made to come up with ‘multicultural’ syllabi, sensitivity training, etc. All process driven activities. That will lead to even more wokeness and unbearable political correctness. The introspection needed to understand one’s own mind - that is not being addressed. Mind you, it’s the same in India. In India we now have deep polarisation between the woke left-liberal that invalidates everything Indic; and the close-minded, rabble-rousing right-conservative that does not believe in erudition. But thats a subject for another day. 6. In passing, I’ll mention that in case you’ve not yet been told by the legion of your desi followers (like moi), about the facts of the Symonds-Harbhajan fracas, then here it is. What Bhajji said was “teri maan-ki-choot”, which translates to ‘your mother’s cu*t’. As you can see, it is a much more offensive term seen from the point of view of a desi. The words ‘maan ki’ written as ‘माँ की’ is nasalised hence sounds like ‘monkey’. Now, monkey is not a racial epithet in India. It can be heard sometimes in cities and is made to black African students. But it’s much rarer. The blacks are usually abused as ‘kauva’ i.e. ‘crow’, for obvious reasons. Thats the racial epithet of choice amongst the intolerant and bigoted desis (a growing tribe, I must say). Monkey is usually used for mischievous children, like my mum would scold me by saying, “Ki bandramo hoch-chey?”; meaning, “what monkeying is happening here?”. However, such was the epithet use by Bhajji, there was no way anyone would own up to it. Every indian player knew what he had said, but they could not repeat it on TV. It would have been unthinkable to use those words while explaining it on TV. This is also the reason why Tendulkar was so vehement in saying that Bhajji had not called Symonds a monkey. This point is not to suggest that Indians are not racist; in my opinion we are racist because the colour of skin is of *overwhelming* importance to most desis. However, in the case of Bhajji v Symonds, it was not so. I appreciate the way you are grappling with these ideas in your show. It’s the only cricket show I know of which has dug-up such uncomfortable concepts in their show and are not shy of discussing it threadbare. While Gideon tries, methinks he is unable to jettison the Judaeo-Christian set of assumptions that inform his understanding of other cultures. He tries, bless him, but one can see him slip because of the vocabulary he uses. Words always reveal the innermost. Which is also why his praise of R. Guha is not surprising. Jarrod Kimber is also grappling as you. The rest barely pass muster. I had posted this rambling note during the live session before you took this 30 day break; but then removed it as what is written above is a bit harsh for a live session. And yes, I agree with some of the other folks commenting here - that Ian, you are gorgeous. Plus there’s something vulnerable about you, Ian especially when you look pensively off-camera ...it makes one want to cuddle you and say, “dinna worry laddie, it will all be alright”. :-p Thats all for now. More later if you bite. I’ll paste this in three places hoping you’ll read it. Cheers! Pat
Good to see Jimmy Neesham being interviewed by Nathan Lyon and Faf du Plessis
😂
😂😂😂
#askTGC just wondering, will you cover Bumrah's wedding as well ?
😂😂😂
😝
For that they are opening the grade cricketer wedding planners
🤣😂🤣😂
LMAO 😂 epic comment
I think every new zealand player is a gentleman! What a nice guy!
2:30 ..😂😂good question
I tried to scrape out that spec behind, on Neesham’s wall, thinking it was a spec on my phone. And that was more entertaining than Jimmy’s travel story.
Neesham is a very underrated Cricketer, always love watching him bat.
Also Meridith was hitting 150 kph in NZ too, it's not only the Australian speed guns ;)
Jimmy is the funniest cricketer i have ever seen..😂😂
I would keep him in my squad just for entertainment purposes.
He is one of the best players in MI. Love to see him play
He is bought as a backup for pollard but i hope they play him as a bowling allrounder in for coulter nile
That would be a monstrous batting line up
Iam pleasantly surprised by the sense of humour of Jimmy.
It's so nice to watch your podcast. ..You both are soo good
I don't know why always WestIndies is under rated going into t20 WC . Atleast not this time . They are double world champions. For me they are fovrites.
They have a great leader as well....they are pretty strong. The bowling gets sorted out a little and no one can beat them
If their board does not fail, they have the most lethal team in t20 hands down
West Indies Bateman lacks defence n techniques. Just coz u swing the bat n hit it hard doesn't mean u can hit every ball out. If u face a good baller, they will eventually get out. But they have different styles, doesn't mean it's effective everytime
at home against sri lanka they barely won the series. no way theyre favourites
The speed guns 8kph quicker than anywhere else, that's the best drive-by hahaha
There was a lot of shade getting thrown there - every NZer knows how much it irritates Aussies when we call India the best test team, even if we don't truly believe it (we're NZers - you don't climb Everest without a bit of self-belief). #skeletons.
Happy that we got him in our squad
Funniest Athelete in the world - Lord Jimmy!!!
Anderson?
@@si-va-m2359 Anderson is a boring person. Never smiles.
7:50 ofc, nz is without a doubt the most underrated team in the world, they definitely don't get the praise they deserve
You guys are doing great with guests..Keep these coming 👍
Jimmy Jimmy Jimmy....aja aja aja 😜
🤣🤣🤣
😂😂
All the Kiwis that come on this podcast are so straight down the line. I just don't believe they're like this in real life, they must be putting it on to some extent.
Where are the skeletons!!!???
They're absolutely putting it on, Neesham is a bit of a rooster on the piss
Put Jimmy on the IPL commentary team he would be a real asset during MI matches.👍👍👍😁😁😁😁
Noted😁
#askTGC you forgot west indies?
4:43
They are not favourites my boy
@@yashgawade2002 ohhh in west indies In t20 format every players is all rounder.
Never ever underestimate windies! They surprise you when they are down. I like how unpredictable they are.
#ASKTGC just wondering will you cover Modi speeches as well
😅😅🤣🤣🤣
LMFAO 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
😂 lol..
Mitronnn....
no ,, please no ,,, i hope they dont look at his a+b square formulae ,,,,
😂😂😂
6:06
7:48 Higgo snort
Jimmy neesham is a very underrated New Zealand cricketer and he is probably my favourite from the New Zealand side
Love that question about Arjun Tendulkar's dad, shithousery at the finest
Boiiiisssssss MS here looking forward to come on your podcast in future 😎😎
Kyu chudap macha raha hai nakli dhoni
Sasta dhoni😂
Please bring ipod also
Best tweets always .
Funfact : He's actually the Rajasthan Royals admin 😌
Just wondering, will you cover Michael Vaughn crying in his bathroom after getting bullied by cricket fans as well? #ASKTGC
Our Indian fans bullying him says more about us than it does about him. We should stop already.
@@br-md2xm Alright, but can we just move on from him, please? Our women's team destroyed South Africa in ODI today, FFS! Can we celebrate that instead of blabbering about how wrong Michael Vaughn was back in mid-Feb?
Love this man
If they manage to get ashwin that interview will be awesome
Huge fan of Jimmy neesham's Twitter
You are getting your thumbnail game stronger day by day, by mentioning about India or something related to India
They are throwing questions about India, covering every action day-by-day, inviting Gavaskar. I guess thumbnail is just like street cricket for them😁
Mumbai bought Jimmy so cheaply!, couldn’t believe
Adam milne and Jimmy Neesham are in same team in ipl
Where was yesterday's live session mtrfkrs ?
Boysss improve audio quality.
#askTGC why u guys dont get interviews of indian cricketers?
more live streams???????????
Hahaha you should definitely get Gaurav Kapur from bwc and 22 yarns.
Bois nice video
#askTGC interview with Ashwin
#askTGC would australian’s be rooting for the kiwis or india in the WTC?
Nice
Most handsome cricketer nisham
Guys! complaining about voice or audio quality. Please understand that JN is not using mic. here the quality is low. He is a millionaire! but doesn’t matter he need to keep a mic. this is a random interview 😂 appreciate the work behind. always complaining OMG 🤦♂️
Boyz! Can you get Soochin on the show?
Could u guys try to get Joe Root and Ben stokes on your podcast?
Jimmy Neesham is a exact copy of Vampire Diaries actor Matthew Davis.
He is so handsome 🙈
Gay
🙏🙏🙏👍👍
He looks like a chirs Hemsworth 🤣🤣
🍿🍺
Influence of Indian cricketers. These guys r Australian n Australia was playing new Zealand in T20 at the same time india was playing England n these guys chose to make a video on india vs England test.😂
test match has more priority than t20 in a ideal sense
#ASKTGC hey guys just checking will you be covering Kane Williamson's dog's birthday?
Lol...An Aussie interviews a Kiwi and the viewers are all Indians😂😂😂
The sound quality is really bad boys.
You need to change your mobile.
@@shubham3542 exactly Why you don’t feel that sound quality is not good !! change your phone plz 😅
@@pratheekjbhat2134 I will buy a new phone so that I can watch this video in hd sound quality. Thanks Sherlock!
Jimmy needs a better mic
Kane will make sure all ends well
So low voice of jimmy
he gave random interview. he didn’t have mic
#askGTC as a ritual we all know its mandatory for Indians to lose the match for the first time in a series. so following the chronology
is India going to lose WTC like sacrifice to keep the big D energy forever :)
Jummy
#AskTGC will you cover the blokbuster Bengal election as well??
Bring Shubman Gill
#asktgc
‘Western Christian psyche’ and ‘Indian asymmetry’
Boys!
In one of the episodes, Sam made a profound point, on what he called the ‘western Christian psyche’ versus the ‘Indian asymmetry’ (I call the second the ‘Indic gaze’). It is a subject that has occupied me, on and off, since my first foray into the western world in Brissie, way back in 1998. I lived there for two years and got a close view of the Aussie way of life. Given the seriousness with which you, Sam; and also you, Ian; explored it while discussing the racial abuse fracas at Sydney, I thought perhaps you wouldn’t mind my writing a rather long missive on my experiences of it. I’d have preferred to record an audio; alas! that is not allowed on this platform.
1. I have found most white Australians, even well-meaning, well-read ones, to be in thrall with the idea of Aussies being fair-minded and being possessed of a superior sense of humour. What they probably do not accept, even when told, is that their idea of fairmindedness is flawed because they set the limits of what is fair both as an instigator and as a recipient. For example, an Aussie bloke (perhaps unwittingly) makes an offensive joke, his Indian acquaintance retorts with a caustic jab; the Aussie immediately says, ‘Mate, that was uncalled for; thats bloody rude’. The Indian bloke says, “but you started it with a particularly cruel jibe!! I’ve merely responded with a like insult”. Aussie bloke, “Bollocks! I was not rude, it was a joke. You cant be serious to say it was rude! I say that to everybody, even my Mum!”. If you then explain that it is for the other party to decide what is rude, in every case, the Aussie will say, “go on mate, you need to lighten up; this is Austraaayaa; we know how to take a piss.”…followed by raucous laughter. Unfailingly, every time. The celebrated example of this is that of the *’line’* that the Aussie cricket teams have often talked about…how Bhajji/Virat/Sachin/Jumbo/et al ~’crossed the line’~ at various times. I’ve often felt during many warmish arguments with my Aussie friends, that they genuinely feel entitled to draw the line because they are utterly convinced that they are more fair-minded than every body else. Its a fascinating study of a navel-gazing populace and one wonders if increased non-white interventions in the lives of Australians will make them more insular or more open? Right now, China and therefore, Chinese-Australians are a hot example of a hostile intervention. Interesting days ahead.
2. Australian males of an age-group - say 15 to 35, strive to be extraordinarily impolite in everyday situations, but are either totally unaware of it, or they celebrate it as some form of machismo. I’ve seen teenagers out-perform each other in talking utter crap to each other simply because it is the norm. It is encouraged as a superior social skill (by peers and seniors) to give it as good as they get, the ruder the better. The behaviour of adults in pubs, at games and even at the lunch table is no different. Such behaviour is encouraged and anybody who is seen to be uncomfortable, is instantly derided by many clever and hurtful epithets. No leeway is given to people from other cultures. They are expected to either understand it or lump it. Tom Gleeson’s TV persona in Hard Quiz/Hard Chat is a normative version of it. Paul Theroux has written about it in his book too, and both Alexander Frater and Bill Bryson allude to it, though in an affectionate way in their books. Australia is unique in this aspect amongst all anglo-sphere nations.
3. I’m not sure if this is a fact for the Aussie female because I spent no time with them, except for one memorable encounter opposite the Kangaroo Point quay on a Friday night - the yacht with a Chippendale kind of strip show for women had returned at midnight to dock - and I happened to be returning from my uni library on my way home, taking my usual short-cut through the quay; I was in a bicycle and was wearing cut-offs and a flimsy tee - it was summer. The women were blocking the path and I stopped, only to be bodily handled (ermm, hmm) by a few very large, bosomy, loud, widely smiling, but very drunk women of uncertain age. Jeez! I nearly shat, and after a few minutes of squirming to move out of range, and making my face look vulnerable and lost, I was rescued by the sober steward. He grinned and winked at my trembling, terrified self. I laugh at the memories now, but was I scared that night!! As you Aussie guys well know, Australia is actually run by its efficient, ambitious and altogether terrifying women :-p
4. While Aussies are getting exposed to other cultures in their own country, I’ve not found them to be comfortable about their “Whites Only” history; they are VERY uncomfortable about the relationship with the First Citizens, and though its now included in some school syllabi, most young folks I met at the uni had no idea about the forcible separation of children, about laws that did not allow ownership of land, etc. The facts of the Frontier Wars and the pogroms are not taught *at all*. In fact, in my experience as a maths tutor, I found that the Pacific Islanders were more ‘mainstreamed’ than the First Citizens (FC). I had many more of students from Kiribati, Marshall, Tonga, Fiji, etc; but only one FC from north QL. In my view, unless there is resolution of this relationship in the minds of *Every* Aussie, there is very little hope of Aussies opening up their collective minds to other races who now are the new immigrants. Ditto on the cricket field. Note that the Greek and Yugoslav immigrants, being white, are not subject to differentiation. The rest are.
5. What I am saying is that *perhaps* there is not much serious thought given to the way the Aussie (make) thinks. Instead effort has been made to come up with ‘multicultural’ syllabi, sensitivity training, etc. All process driven activities. That will lead to even more wokeness and unbearable political correctness. The introspection needed to understand one’s own mind - that is not being addressed. Mind you, it’s the same in India. In India we now have deep polarisation between the woke left-liberal that invalidates everything Indic; and the close-minded, rabble-rousing right-conservative that does not believe in erudition. But thats a subject for another day.
6. In passing, I’ll mention that in case you’ve not yet been told by the legion of your desi followers (like moi), about the facts of the Symonds-Harbhajan fracas, then here it is. What Bhajji said was “teri maan-ki-choot”, which translates to ‘your mother’s cu*t’. As you can see, it is a much more offensive term seen from the point of view of a desi. The words ‘maan ki’ written as ‘माँ की’ is nasalised hence sounds like ‘monkey’. Now, monkey is not a racial epithet in India. It can be heard sometimes in cities and is made to black African students. But it’s much rarer. The blacks are usually abused as ‘kauva’ i.e. ‘crow’, for obvious reasons. Thats the racial epithet of choice amongst the intolerant and bigoted desis (a growing tribe, I must say). Monkey is usually used for mischievous children, like my mum would scold me by saying, “Ki bandramo hoch-chey?”; meaning, “what monkeying is happening here?”. However, such was the epithet use by Bhajji, there was no way anyone would own up to it. Every indian player knew what he had said, but they could not repeat it on TV. It would have been unthinkable to use those words while explaining it on TV. This is also the reason why Tendulkar was so vehement in saying that Bhajji had not called Symonds a monkey. This point is not to suggest that Indians are not racist; in my opinion we are racist because the colour of skin is of *overwhelming* importance to most desis. However, in the case of Bhajji v Symonds, it was not so.
I appreciate the way you are grappling with these ideas in your show. It’s the only cricket show I know of which has dug-up such uncomfortable concepts in their show and are not shy of discussing it threadbare. While Gideon tries, methinks he is unable to jettison the Judaeo-Christian set of assumptions that inform his understanding of other cultures. He tries, bless him, but one can see him slip because of the vocabulary he uses. Words always reveal the innermost. Which is also why his praise of R. Guha is not surprising. Jarrod Kimber is also grappling as you. The rest barely pass muster.
I had posted this rambling note during the live session before you took this 30 day break; but then removed it as what is written above is a bit harsh for a live session. And yes, I agree with some of the other folks commenting here - that Ian, you are gorgeous. Plus there’s something vulnerable about you, Ian especially when you look pensively off-camera ...it makes one want to cuddle you and say, “dinna worry laddie, it will all be alright”.
:-p
Thats all for now. More later if you bite.
I’ll paste this in three places hoping you’ll read it.
Cheers!
Pat
Try to write book , comment isn't your thing
What an absolute bum, Jimmy Neesham is. Horrible cricketer